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[ominous chord strike]
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[creepy piano keys]
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The thing
inside of me, it's like
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the appetite,
it's like a wolf that's...
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feeling...the hunger.
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[sirens wailing]
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What the crime scene
starts to tell authorities is
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that there is
an excess amount of violence.
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That is far more
violence that is required
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to subdue an individual.
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There doesn't seem
to be anything disturbed
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in the house.
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It starts to tell them that
likely, Roman's killer knew him,
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and there was some emotional
attachment between them.
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This nationwide manhunt
continues for the person
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who detectives
say is responsible
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for murdering her husband.
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This is 28-year-old
Stormy Delehanty.
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She left her apartment
in a white 2010 Mazda 6
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with a Kentucky license plate.
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She was last seen
in Utah yesterday.
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[Dr. Fox] According to criminal
records, Stormy Delehanty has
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a long criminal history
where she is very versatile
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in her offenses.
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Everything from DUI,
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fleeing a crime scene,
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harassment of a police officer.
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These are all things that speak
to somebody that just acts out
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however she wants, doesn't
care about social norms,
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and even will act out violently,
showing that she has very poor
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behavioral controls.
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[ominous strings]
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[Dr. Saraiya] She definitely
comes across as very nonchalant
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and casual, not on guard at all.
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One interpretation
of that is that she has
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that trait of low emotionality
that psychopaths have.
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She has no personal knowledge
of how people's minds work
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or how you're supposed
to function in society because
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that's the reason
that she chose to study
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these things.
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And it was the thing
that enabled her to feel
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normal-ish, which is quite
a good description of the fact
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that psychopaths don't
have that direct experience
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of certain normal human
emotions, and they have
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to study them.
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OK.
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[Dr. Sahni]
She's now changed her tactic.
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She's playing a little bit
of cat and mouse with them,
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talking about how she wants
to talk to them, but she also
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wants a lawyer.
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This is a woman who is far
more seasoned in how the legal
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system works,
and she's consciously sticking
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a finger in the pot and
saying, "I want to help you.
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I want to talk to you,
but I want an attorney."
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And she's teasing the cops.
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Delehanty doesn't really
discuss her memory in a way
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that's plausible.
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She's making it sound like
there's this massive gap
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of time, what we might refer
to as an "end block blackout."
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and while her pattern
of alcohol use is not
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inconsistent with a pattern
of blackouts, the fact that
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she keeps changing
what she remembers is not how
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alcohol-induced blackouts work.
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And Delehanty, again,
her narcissism and her own
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arrogance that she thinks
she's just going to lie her way
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through these interviews,
it starts to come unraveled.
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I think what Stormy is doing is
trying to put her first attempt
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at a story together,
see what detectives come back
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at her with.
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If they don't confront her
with anything, then she knows,
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"Oh, my story stood."
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If they confront her
with something, she has
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the ultimate confidence
in herself that she can keep
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evolving the story,
come up with a new lie,
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and a new lie after that.
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Psychopaths will pathologically
lie for their own benefit.
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They're very effective liars
because they don't feel guilty.
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[ominous chord strike]
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[Dr. Sahni] For most of us,
we couldn't even fathom harming
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a human being,
much less dismembering them
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after the fact.
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It's too horrific
and graphic to consider.
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So for Stormy Delehanty,
whether or not she completed
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the task is almost irrelevant.
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The fact is,
she considered doing it,
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she was open to the idea of
doing it, and she actually took
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functional steps to go
purchase equipment to dismember
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her husband's body.
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And what this really shows
is a level of callousness,
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a lack of connection to a human
being, and a lack of empathy
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and remorse for her actions.
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This is somebody who was
100% in self-preservation mode.
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And when you see that lack
of regard for human beings
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and that level of callousness,
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not only is it a marker
of psychopathic behavior,
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but it speaks to the fact
that she was really only focused
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on herself in that moment.
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There was a very palpable
pause in her answer when
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the detective
asks her, did you ever think
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that he might leave you?
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My take on her description
of their relationship is
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that it's --
it's rehearsed.
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You know, it's what
a psychopath learns to say.
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From the brother's description,
it was hardly that of two
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best friends.
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So it's not likely that
that's a genuine sentiment.
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If she wants to be
a sympathetic character,
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she's got to behave a certain
way and say certain things.
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And that's what drives
her choices, not because
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she's genuinely feeling
these things.
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[male reporter] The 20-year-old
Delehanty was extremely
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talkative on the stand.
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She admitted the two drank
together excessively
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and on July 4th of last year,
things turned volatile
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when she asked to see his phone.
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[suspenseful chord strike]
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I'm trying to fumble through
his phone, and in the meantime,
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while I'm like flipping through
the music selection I hit
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that button twice, and
it brings up all the open apps
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on his phone, and so being
the nosy wife, I start flashing
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through those, and I click
on his text messages,
and within one
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of his text messages I see
a picture of a girl,
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she's in a towel, and her
hair is in a towel, and so
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I recall asking him, like,
"Who is this girl?" and he just
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looked at me like I was silly --
he was trying to deny
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that this picture was there.
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I'm questioning him
about this photo,
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and that's when he lunges
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and throws me off my bed,
and he's pinning me down.
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And he's screaming at me,
"Is this what you want?
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Is this what you want?"
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And I'm kind of confused,
is what what I want?
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He throws, like,
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shoves, throws me, and I end up
hitting my head on this amp.
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And then
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next thing I know,
I'm cleaning up blood.
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I don't know what happened.
I do recall getting up,
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standing up, but that's it.
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[Dr. Fox] She's come up
with a new story that
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she thinks now will
be more believable,
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particularly for a jury.
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She's now playing a new role,
which is, "I'm just like
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"the rest of you.
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"I'm like every other wife.
Who hasn't gone through
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"their husband's phone
and accidentally hit
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"the button?
But, I saw something
that probably none of you guys
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"did, which was this other
woman, and this is really
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upsetting to me, and
that's why I did what I did."
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But what she's missing
is that it's not believable.
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It doesn't justify murder.
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I think her reaction was so
outsized, likely because
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this was such a blow to her ego.
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Most people would be very hurt,
crying, hysterical, very upset.
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Instead, I think that
her reaction, which is
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the psychopath's reaction
to rejection, which is
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violence and anger.
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