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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:22,104 Breaking news in Mathews County, where a couple has been 2 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:24,566 found brutally murdered in their New Point home. 3 00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:27,526 The bodies of 51- and 49-year-old Adam 4 00:00:27,527 --> 00:00:30,529 and Melissa Moore were discovered by first responders 5 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:32,781 after they had been violently murdered 6 00:00:32,782 --> 00:00:34,409 from multiple stab wounds. 7 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:37,036 Police say the victim's 24-year-old son, 8 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:39,830 who is currently at large, is a person of interest in 9 00:00:39,831 --> 00:00:43,084 the case after investigators found his initials, 10 00:00:43,209 --> 00:00:46,796 "JTM," written in blood on the wall their home. 11 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:02,729 I would kill again. 12 00:01:02,854 --> 00:01:04,855 They're dead, I'm alive. 13 00:01:04,856 --> 00:01:06,274 I don't think it was wrong. 14 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:09,027 The thing inside of me is like... 15 00:01:10,236 --> 00:01:12,030 the appetite, it's like a wolf that's... 16 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:17,243 feeling... hunger. 17 00:01:37,305 --> 00:01:41,225 A double homicide investigation in Mathews County, 18 00:01:41,226 --> 00:01:43,937 police charged this man, Jonathan Moore. 19 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:46,772 They say he stabbed his own parents to death, 20 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:48,857 Adam and Melissa Moore. 21 00:01:48,858 --> 00:01:51,068 Deputies found their bodies at their home on 22 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:52,945 White Point Lane on Monday. 23 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:56,365 Police say they found Jonathan Moore in Lynchburg yesterday 24 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:59,201 though, after driving off in his father's truck, 25 00:01:59,202 --> 00:02:00,495 and arrested him. 26 00:02:33,903 --> 00:02:36,698 So right out of the gate he's wanting a lawyer 27 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:38,490 and what does that say about him? 28 00:02:38,491 --> 00:02:41,910 I think it goes back to that old saying where, "A lawyer 29 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:44,664 who represents himself has a fool for a client." 30 00:02:44,789 --> 00:02:48,043 And I think that gives us our first glimpse 31 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:51,670 into who he thinks he is. 32 00:02:51,671 --> 00:02:55,550 He thinks he's much smarter than what he actually is. 33 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:58,510 He thinks he's much more sophisticated than what 34 00:02:58,511 --> 00:02:59,763 he actually is. 35 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:36,400 There is a shocking level of grandiosity I find 36 00:04:36,401 --> 00:04:37,652 in his presentation. 37 00:04:37,777 --> 00:04:41,196 When you think about all of the data points-- so his hand 38 00:04:41,197 --> 00:04:42,614 is lacerated and wrapped. 39 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:45,909 We know that they found evidence at the scene of 40 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:48,954 the murders with his initials in blood written on the wall. 41 00:04:48,955 --> 00:04:52,583 He's being investigated for this, but yet has no emotional 42 00:04:52,584 --> 00:04:54,794 response to the fact that he's been told his parents 43 00:04:54,919 --> 00:04:56,211 have been murdered. 44 00:04:56,212 --> 00:05:00,633 And he just sits there really calmly, I think, trying to fish 45 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:02,885 for a little information to find out what they know, 46 00:05:02,886 --> 00:05:05,471 but also perhaps a little uncertain of 47 00:05:05,472 --> 00:05:06,598 where he wants to go with this. 48 00:05:57,857 --> 00:06:00,943 He gets really antsy, a little uncomfortable, 49 00:06:00,944 --> 00:06:04,239 because he wants to share his story. 50 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:06,533 He wants to control the narrative here. 51 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:10,160 He cannot sit still and let so much time go by, because 52 00:06:10,161 --> 00:06:11,538 it's just very boring for him. 53 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:14,416 And, you know, typical of psychopaths is they do need 54 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:15,874 some sort of arousal. 55 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:19,545 They have a propensity towards getting the attention because 56 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:21,839 if they don't, then there's nothing to them, 57 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,383 and they're gonna, you know, just be bored and fall apart, 58 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,220 so he wants to engage them. 59 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:40,460 He's really trying to get as much information as he can 60 00:07:40,585 --> 00:07:42,671 from detectives so he can plan out 61 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,631 the rest of what he's gonna tell them. 62 00:07:44,756 --> 00:07:48,634 And also, that is because he wants to see what he can get 63 00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:50,804 down the road in terms of sentencing, 64 00:07:50,929 --> 00:07:52,597 in terms of the punishment. 65 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:11,967 When it comes to his description 66 00:09:11,968 --> 00:09:13,970 of the release and the blackout, 67 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:16,722 he can kind of control this narrative that 68 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:20,309 he wants them to believe that he's not a bad person. 69 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:23,521 That there, again, that there was some kind of 70 00:09:23,646 --> 00:09:24,772 unresolved trauma. 71 00:09:24,773 --> 00:09:27,359 If he had a release, it was because he was aware 72 00:09:27,484 --> 00:09:30,486 of what he was doing. He enjoyed what he was doing. 73 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:32,071 Was he blacked out? 74 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:34,782 I mean, he was blacked out from his sense of normalcy 75 00:09:34,783 --> 00:09:37,576 and decency, but he wasn't blacked out in what 76 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:39,120 we think of as being blacked out. 77 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:56,071 Moore describes his parents as overbearing or controlling, 78 00:10:56,072 --> 00:10:58,365 and that's very damaging to a psychopath. 79 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:02,661 It's undercutting their-- their emotions, their control. 80 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,248 He doesn't want them around because they really chipped 81 00:11:05,373 --> 00:11:08,251 at his ego by telling him what to do when to do it. 82 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:03,931 Moore is approaching this like a quid pro quo. 83 00:12:03,932 --> 00:12:05,724 Like, you know, I gave you something. 84 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,936 I gave you a confession. Now you give me something. 85 00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:11,647 And now he just wants to move on to the next transaction, 86 00:12:11,648 --> 00:12:16,027 and to basically get his own instrumental needs met. 87 00:12:16,152 --> 00:12:19,238 So that in and of itself, by the way, is callous. 88 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:21,991 There's clearly no remorse for killing his parents, 89 00:12:22,117 --> 00:12:24,494 and he doesn't really want to tell the truth. 90 00:12:24,619 --> 00:12:26,496 He's basically just saying, "Yeah, I just told the truth 91 00:12:26,621 --> 00:12:28,580 because I want a better outcome for my case." 92 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:34,128 And then he takes it a step further and unbelievably is now 93 00:12:34,129 --> 00:12:35,964 asking for concessions. 94 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:46,034 He seems far more concerned about the cats than he does 95 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:48,828 his remaining family and friends in the community. 96 00:13:48,953 --> 00:13:51,413 And that's the thing with psychopathy is that we now 97 00:13:51,414 --> 00:13:53,875 think of psychopathy on a continuum. 98 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,710 And we know that there are people, 99 00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:57,961 for example, who harm animals. 100 00:13:57,962 --> 00:14:00,756 On another side of that aspect of psychopathy, there are 101 00:14:00,757 --> 00:14:03,676 people who actually form bonds with animals. 102 00:14:03,677 --> 00:14:07,805 And one theory is that they form bonds with pets 103 00:14:07,806 --> 00:14:10,684 or animals because animals can't reject them. 104 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:31,473 He doesn't want her to see him in a bad way. 105 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:35,268 And that mimics or mirrors what he was trying to do 106 00:15:35,393 --> 00:15:36,269 with detectives. 107 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:39,481 He's controlling how others are seeing him. 108 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:43,275 Again, if he's looked at as this murderous person, 109 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:45,278 this horrible person, that's gonna hurt his ego. 110 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:46,695 He doesn't want to be seen that way. 111 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:49,157 It's very pejorative to psychopaths. 112 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,117 He wants to be seen as the victim here. 113 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:27,320 He has a huge sense of entitlement. 114 00:16:27,445 --> 00:16:31,115 He believes that he should be getting all of the stuff 115 00:16:31,116 --> 00:16:32,991 that he wants when he wants it. 116 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,036 He wasn't able to get it from the detectives. 117 00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:37,913 He expects to get it from his grandmother. 118 00:16:37,914 --> 00:16:42,668 And never does he ever think about how is she feeling, 119 00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:44,671 given everything that's going on. 120 00:16:44,796 --> 00:16:48,508 The psychopath often is so detached from another person's 121 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:51,093 emotional state, it's called alexithymia, 122 00:16:51,094 --> 00:16:54,222 when you can't interpret your emotions and you can't 123 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:56,182 interpret the emotions of other people. 124 00:18:24,479 --> 00:18:26,522 So I think at this point, Moore is trying 125 00:18:26,523 --> 00:18:28,900 to spell out his motive here. 126 00:18:29,025 --> 00:18:32,195 He mentions that his parents have been talking about a life 127 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,699 insurance policy, and we know from records from before that 128 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:40,369 he was talking to a friend while intoxicated about, 129 00:18:40,370 --> 00:18:42,080 you know, killing his parents for money. 130 00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:45,332 It does fit his narrative to kill his parents for the money. 131 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:48,544 He still wants what they have, which is money. 132 00:18:48,545 --> 00:18:50,714 Not emotion, not love, but money. 133 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:54,259 So how does he get what he wants without having them 134 00:18:54,384 --> 00:18:55,885 in the picture? He kills them. 135 00:19:55,487 --> 00:19:58,156 There is a high level of narcissism that's happening. 136 00:19:58,281 --> 00:20:01,033 All he's thinking about is how people don't want to let him 137 00:20:01,034 --> 00:20:04,371 live the life that he wants, and he's upset about it. 138 00:20:09,292 --> 00:20:13,545 A Mathews County man will spend 50 years behind bars 139 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:15,297 for killing his parents. 140 00:20:15,298 --> 00:20:18,343 Jonathan Moore was convicted in the stabbing deaths of Adam 141 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:21,304 and Melissa Moore. He pleaded guilty in October. 11709

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