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[dramatic music playing]

[man] Being inside of me, it's like...

The appetite, it's like a wolf that's...

feeling...

the hunger.

[reporter] We have a local breaking news alert right now,

in Putnam County, where two boys

were found dead in a home.

12-year-old Robert Baker

and 14-year-old Tayten Baker were murdered here.

Now deputies are trying to figure out

what happened leading up to their deaths.

[Bardey] The brutal nature of the crime and the extent of overkill

speaks to something very personal.

It's not just... If this were a home invasion

and the kids were in the way,

the intruder would have done the minimum to get the kids out of the way.

So once they were out of the way,

there's no reason to go any further.

The degree of overkill here...

It speaks to the fact that the killer knew his victims

and was driven by some sort of intense rage.

[sobbing]

[sobbing]

At this point in the investigation,

detectives are bringing in the immediate family members.

Most of the family's co-operating.

They're willingly talking to the authorities.

They're sharing whatever information they know.

What we notice is that Cindy is highly emotional.

She's having a hard time digesting what's happened.

Mark's not showing a whole lot of affect or emotion.

But he's trying to comfort his girlfriend.

He's trying to respond to the situation

based on what he thinks is required of him.

[Dr. Vienna] Asking for a lawyer early in an investigation

could be a sign of defensiveness.

It could be a sign that he did something wrong

and he doesn't know how to get out of it.

I think the key feature here

is his lack of emotional attachment to the children.

You would I think that if these were your children

or your girlfriend's children

or some children in your family,

that you would do anything it takes to help solve their crime.

You would come forth and give a DNA test,

take a lie detector test.

So if someone like Mark Wilson isn't doing that,

investigators might assume that he has something to hide.

[Dr. Sahni] It's not uncommon for family members

of somebody who's psychopathic or people close to them

to sometimes see emotions and reactions that aren't actually there.

So it's hard to know if Wilson's mom

actually saw tears

and full, genuine emotion from her son.

Or, more likely, if Wilson did shed any tears

or his eyes became glassy and watery,

it was either an attempt

to confuse his mother and manipulate her.

Or it may have been his own regret and sadness

for the fact that he's now been found out.

[Dr. Vienna] So he's somewhat criminally sophisticated at this point.

Been to prison for almost five years,

engaging in drug offenses.

His violent behavior is slowly escalating.

And he doesn't really have that many skills

to navigate life successfully.

So he's living this sort of parasitic lifestyle off of others.

And he's really giving nothing in return.

Just taking from others.

Wilson at different times tries to come up with different excuses

to shift the blame away from himself.

He blames his girlfriend.

He blames the children.

He never really comes up and acknowledges and takes responsibility,

and that denotes a certain degree of callousness.

It denotes a certain degree of lack of empathy.

I mean, at the very least, now that he's been caught

to show some degree of regret and remorse

for having killed these children.

But yet, even at the end of this interview, he still does not.

[siren wailing]

[Dr. Vienna] What's transpiring here

is he's posting himself up

to be this, sort of, big brother,

this hero, this very, you know,

caring and engaging individual.

It's an a stark contrast to what we know about him.

He's someone that uses people,

engages in criminal activity to get what he wants.

He's just making himself out to be someone

who he's not, almost trying to control

the narrative of the situation.

That he's a good guy, he's the innocent one.

He's the role model

to Robert and Tayten.

[Dr. Sahni] One of the other theories during this investigation

was that his motivation to kill the boys

may have had to do with that family reporting him to CPS.

And he's worried that his young daughter

would be taken away because of his drug use.

There's zero indication

that either of the two victims

were engaged in anything inappropriate,

sexually with either Wilson's young daughter,

or his significant other.

This is somebody who desperately is grasping at straws.

Wilson's willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus

in this interview, just to walk out the door

because he didn't do it, or he did it because he had to.

It really shows us that he acted on vulnerable individuals

who weren't able to fight back,

didn't have a really a chance to escape.

He waited until they were completely knocked out, to hurt them.

It's a common trait for psychopaths

to prey upon those weaker than themselves

or those that are vulnerable,

that aren't able to fight back,

so they can then get what they want out of the situation,

Wilson is using words that he believes he should be using.

Life has taught him that he should model this behavior,

but because there's no depth to it, there's no sincerity to it.

And he doesn't really have a lot of understanding

of what emotions are or attachment is.

It's just words.

It's an afterthought to say, "I'm sorry."

It's an afterthought to say this was a big mistake.

It wasn't a "Big mistake."

Mistakes are, "I accidentally forgot to pay the bills."

Mistakes are...

"I left something in the car that should have been put in the refrigerator."

"I left the milk out."

Big mistakes are not brutally murdering two children

that are members of your family.

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Just because somebody is a member of your family

doesn't mean that you're automatically safe.

[Lawyer] Are you a family annihilator?

You mean, like, did I shoot my wife and my son?

[Woman] Sometimes that risk lies within.

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