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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,466 And may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:10,433 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:10,567 --> 00:00:12,127 - Tonight on "the mproof is out there.". 4 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:13,834 A glowing orbs splits in the sky. 5 00:00:13,967 --> 00:00:15,700 - [Witness] Two things are dropping down. 6 00:00:15,834 --> 00:00:17,033 Holy crap. 7 00:00:17,166 --> 00:00:19,567 - [Tony] Disturbing creatures swim the sea. 8 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:21,033 - These aren't natural animals 9 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:24,667 but rather the product of some sort of bizarre mutation. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,100 - [Tony] And are California wildfires caused 11 00:00:27,233 --> 00:00:28,367 by laser weapons? 12 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,934 - [Mj] The us government was using energy weapons 13 00:00:32,066 --> 00:00:34,066 to purposely start these forest fires. 14 00:00:38,633 --> 00:00:40,266 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,680 - [Woman] What the heck is this? 16 00:00:41,734 --> 00:00:42,867 - [Tony] Photos and sounds 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 that defy explanation. 18 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:48,500 (Dramatic music) 19 00:00:48,633 --> 00:00:51,266 - [Male] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,133 The plane that was literally frozen in the air? 21 00:00:54,266 --> 00:00:55,400 - [Tony] What are they? 22 00:00:55,533 --> 00:00:57,166 - [Mj] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 23 00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:00,600 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 24 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:03,467 - I'm Tony Harris. 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,767 And as a journalist for more than 30 years, 26 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:08,667 I've followed the facts where they take me. 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,934 Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 28 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:14,233 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 29 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:17,200 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 30 00:01:17,333 --> 00:01:19,000 - It's a credible case. 31 00:01:19,133 --> 00:01:20,567 It's a credible video. 32 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,367 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 33 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,433 - This video is clearly faked. 34 00:01:25,567 --> 00:01:27,367 - The proof starts now. 35 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:30,233 (Dramatic music) 36 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:37,467 Hi everybody. 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,042 And welcome to "the proof is out there." 38 00:01:39,066 --> 00:01:41,066 Let me start by asking you to imagine you're 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,700 at a family gathering, celebrating the 4th of July, 40 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:46,100 when an unexpected guest shows up. 41 00:01:46,233 --> 00:01:48,066 And it's not your crazy uncle. 42 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,360 It's something up in the sky. 43 00:01:49,467 --> 00:01:51,867 (Crowd cheering) 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,066 It's independence day in alamance, north Carolina, 45 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,700 and a local man is enjoying a barbecue with his family. 46 00:01:58,834 --> 00:02:01,367 Fireworks are going off intermittently. 47 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,166 So he's been looking at the sky all evening 48 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,300 when he suddenly sees something even more spectacular. 49 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:14,367 - [Tony] It's a classic orb shaped ufo, 50 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:18,400 the kind we've seen in several videos, some real, some fake. 51 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:21,133 And what makes this footage extra special is 52 00:02:21,266 --> 00:02:23,500 that it goes on for more than eight minutes. 53 00:02:23,633 --> 00:02:25,242 - [Witness] God, I wish I had some binoculars. 54 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:27,300 - [Tony] Now look at what happens here 55 00:02:27,433 --> 00:02:29,066 at the six and a half minute Mark. 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,600 - Oh wow. - Look at that. 57 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:31,776 - Something's coming off of it. 58 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Two things are coming off of it. 59 00:02:32,734 --> 00:02:33,400 - [Witness] You said that. 60 00:02:33,533 --> 00:02:34,733 - [Wittness 2] Where is it at? 61 00:02:34,767 --> 00:02:35,976 - [Witness] One went up and one's coming down. 62 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,767 - [Wittness 2] What is it? - [Wittness] Holy crap. 63 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:40,000 Look at this. 64 00:02:40,133 --> 00:02:42,066 - [Tony] The orb seems to bifurcate 65 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,667 and seconds later, it splits again. 66 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,543 - [Witness] Oh, now something's coming out of the other one. 67 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:48,000 Holy (beep), 68 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:49,309 third one's coming out. - [Wittness 2] Oh my gosh. 69 00:02:49,333 --> 00:02:50,166 - [Wittness 2] There's three different- 70 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:51,967 oh my god, that's crazy. 71 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,467 - [Tony] Like other orbs seen around the world, 72 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,767 this one had no wings or obvious means of propulsion. 73 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:00,433 It's hard to judge its speed, but others have been clocked 74 00:03:00,567 --> 00:03:03,433 by commercial pilots at over 500 miles per hour. 75 00:03:03,567 --> 00:03:05,133 - [Witness] And it's pulsating, too. 76 00:03:05,266 --> 00:03:07,100 Man, that is nuts. 77 00:03:07,233 --> 00:03:08,876 - [Tony] Journalist Alexis Brooks who writes 78 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:11,200 and speaks about ufos says the duration 79 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:13,066 of this sighting is important. 80 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,033 - Some individuals that have long contact encounters, 81 00:03:17,166 --> 00:03:20,133 that is exceeding five minutes or more 82 00:03:20,266 --> 00:03:23,800 may actually be having a literal contact encounter 83 00:03:23,934 --> 00:03:26,000 without them being consciously aware of it. 84 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:28,667 Could it be the non-human intelligence 85 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,500 or the occupants of the craft were actually making contact 86 00:03:32,633 --> 00:03:35,200 with the witness and vice versa? 87 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:36,976 - [Witness] And here, we get some action going 88 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 on here, boys. 89 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:42,147 - The witness said he later tried 90 00:03:42,266 --> 00:03:45,133 to find some earthly explanation for the incident, 91 00:03:45,266 --> 00:03:47,300 even checking with a nearby military base. 92 00:03:47,433 --> 00:03:50,300 But to this day, he says he's gotten no answers. 93 00:03:50,433 --> 00:03:52,700 Our experts may be able to change that. 94 00:03:52,834 --> 00:03:55,633 (Dramatic music) 95 00:03:57,033 --> 00:03:59,667 Our video analyst Marc d'Antonio begins by looking 96 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,700 at the surrounding factors involved in this event. 97 00:04:02,834 --> 00:04:03,954 - I stepped through it frame 98 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:07,800 by frame to try to isolate the components 99 00:04:07,934 --> 00:04:11,100 and equate them with something that we might already know. 100 00:04:12,233 --> 00:04:13,867 It's actually pretty high altitude. 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,500 - [Tony] For starters, d'Antonio is positive 102 00:04:16,633 --> 00:04:18,033 it couldn't be a bird. 103 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:21,033 - Birds don't have that kind of reflectivity to them. 104 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:22,667 Even geese at high altitude, 105 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,934 you can still detect that they're birds. 106 00:04:25,066 --> 00:04:28,200 - [Tony] He's just as sure it's not a plane or a drone. 107 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:29,700 - [Marc] Planes and drones, 108 00:04:29,834 --> 00:04:32,567 they have to follow federal aviation administration rules 109 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:35,967 for lighting, and this object had none of that. 110 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:37,860 - [Tony] Nor could it be a natural phenomenon 111 00:04:37,967 --> 00:04:38,967 like a meteor. 112 00:04:39,066 --> 00:04:40,867 It just hangs in the sky too long. 113 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,533 - Meteors are momentary objects. 114 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:46,000 They go through the sky and then they're gone. 115 00:04:46,133 --> 00:04:47,367 - [Tony] So what was it? 116 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,767 The secret could be in that strange splitting. 117 00:04:51,533 --> 00:04:53,533 - Here, you can see, in this image, you can see how 118 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,934 it's a teardrop shape and these objects are falling away. 119 00:04:57,066 --> 00:04:58,900 And the object that's way up there 120 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:00,700 has changed brightness tremendously. 121 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:05,400 Now my thinking takes me down the path of weather balloon. 122 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:07,376 - [Tony] It certainly wouldn't be the first time 123 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,767 a weather balloon was mistaken for a ufo. 124 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:12,033 In fact, the government initially claimed it 125 00:05:12,166 --> 00:05:14,867 was a weather balloon that caused the roswell incident, 126 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:17,710 but that still doesn't explain how this thing 127 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:21,066 could split apart and move off in different directions. 128 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,567 - I would guess that this is a weather balloon where, 129 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:26,800 whatever was attached to it, broke off. 130 00:05:26,934 --> 00:05:29,400 And when something like this happens and the resistance 131 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:30,973 of the air will tend to streamline it 132 00:05:31,033 --> 00:05:32,553 and make it more into a teardrop shape. 133 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:35,633 And that shape is what I think we're seeing here. 134 00:05:35,767 --> 00:05:38,000 - [Tony] That theory sounds plausible. 135 00:05:38,133 --> 00:05:40,800 But then to our surprise, atmospheric scientist, 136 00:05:40,934 --> 00:05:43,300 Deanna hence, shoots it out of the sky. 137 00:05:43,433 --> 00:05:45,734 - So I do think it's really unlikely 138 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:49,467 that this is any kind of, you know, weather instrument. 139 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,967 They come down on a little parachute 140 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:56,834 and they wouldn't emit light this brightly like this. 141 00:05:56,967 --> 00:06:00,367 It doesn't seem to be meteorologically related. 142 00:06:00,500 --> 00:06:02,800 - [Witness] You see it, Dee? 143 00:06:02,934 --> 00:06:03,934 You see a ufo? 144 00:06:04,066 --> 00:06:06,867 (Dramatic music) 145 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,500 - So america, is at proof or not? 146 00:06:11,633 --> 00:06:13,967 It doesn't appear to be a bird or a plane. 147 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:15,400 Could it be a weather balloon? 148 00:06:15,533 --> 00:06:19,066 Maybe, but a local weather service later told the witness, 149 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,900 there were none in the area. 150 00:06:21,033 --> 00:06:23,467 Until we get more solid information, 151 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,967 we're gonna call this a genuine ufo. 152 00:06:26,867 --> 00:06:27,967 Coming up. 153 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:29,543 Is this what happens when you dump tons 154 00:06:29,567 --> 00:06:31,433 of nuclear waste into the sea? 155 00:06:31,567 --> 00:06:34,767 - So when DNA is subject to radiation, 156 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,233 you could end up with anything, virtually. 157 00:06:37,367 --> 00:06:39,047 - When "the proof is out there" continuous. 158 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,734 (Dramatic music) 159 00:06:45,633 --> 00:06:48,066 (Dramatic music) 160 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:51,467 There are an estimated three and a half trillion fish 161 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,533 in our oceans, which leaves us 162 00:06:53,667 --> 00:06:56,233 with a lot of unknowns about what actually lives down there. 163 00:06:56,367 --> 00:06:57,934 And we've discovered photographs of some 164 00:06:58,066 --> 00:07:01,600 of the most disturbing sea creatures ever caught on camera. 165 00:07:01,734 --> 00:07:03,400 The question, were they spawned 166 00:07:03,533 --> 00:07:06,467 by an even more disturbing man-made disaster? 167 00:07:07,633 --> 00:07:09,000 This is the barents sea, 168 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:11,433 located between Russia and the north pole. 169 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:14,834 It's one of the most remote and unexplored places on earth. 170 00:07:14,967 --> 00:07:17,333 And one deep sea fishermen there has brought creatures 171 00:07:17,467 --> 00:07:19,734 to the surface that are so bizarre, 172 00:07:19,867 --> 00:07:22,400 his Instagram account has made headlines. 173 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:25,633 (Camera flashing) 174 00:07:25,767 --> 00:07:27,867 Fish with bulging lips, 175 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,033 what looks like human dentures 176 00:07:30,166 --> 00:07:32,767 and fluorescent red colored eyes, 177 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:35,367 creatures with heads shaped like aliens. 178 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:38,100 The images are so bizarre and there are so many of them, 179 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:40,900 journalist mj banias who covers the unexplained 180 00:07:41,033 --> 00:07:42,333 says it's made people wonder 181 00:07:42,467 --> 00:07:44,800 if there's something unnatural going on below. 182 00:07:44,934 --> 00:07:46,867 - These creatures look so bizarre 183 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,667 that people naturally question something's wrong. 184 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,367 One theory is that these aren't natural animals, 185 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:57,333 but rather, the product of some sort of bizarre mutation. 186 00:07:57,834 --> 00:07:59,266 - [Tony] Look again for yourself. 187 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Mutation seems like a reasonable explanation for this. 188 00:08:03,333 --> 00:08:06,266 And it turns out, the idea of mutated Russian fish 189 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,900 may not be farfetched, 190 00:08:08,033 --> 00:08:10,500 as our military expert, Tim mcmillan explains. 191 00:08:10,633 --> 00:08:12,367 - Any government that has any kind 192 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:16,100 of nuclear proliferation program has always had this problem 193 00:08:16,233 --> 00:08:18,133 of how do you get rid of your waste? 194 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:20,233 And for a number of years, 195 00:08:20,367 --> 00:08:23,700 the Soviet union's answer was dumping it 196 00:08:23,834 --> 00:08:25,000 into the barents sea. 197 00:08:25,967 --> 00:08:28,567 17,000 nuclear containers, 198 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:33,233 multiple different nuclear powered ships were sunk, 199 00:08:33,367 --> 00:08:36,166 and an entire nuclear submarine from a period 200 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:41,266 of about the 1950s until the collapse of the Soviet union. 201 00:08:42,667 --> 00:08:44,476 - [Tony] Whoa, so the Soviets used the barents sea 202 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:47,400 as a nuclear toilet bowl for decades 203 00:08:47,533 --> 00:08:50,800 and as our physicist, Dr. Hakeem oluseyi explains, 204 00:08:50,934 --> 00:08:53,600 radiation and DNA don't mix. 205 00:08:53,734 --> 00:08:57,734 - Radiation is really tiny subatomic particles 206 00:08:57,867 --> 00:08:59,367 that are flying along. 207 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,133 And when they encounter a DNA molecule, 208 00:09:02,266 --> 00:09:04,967 they can strike it and break it and change it. 209 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:08,400 So when DNA is subject to radiation, 210 00:09:08,533 --> 00:09:10,734 then what happens is the instructions 211 00:09:10,867 --> 00:09:13,400 for writing a new animal are changed. 212 00:09:13,533 --> 00:09:16,000 So you could end up with anything, virtually. 213 00:09:18,033 --> 00:09:19,800 - A recent scientific study found 214 00:09:19,934 --> 00:09:21,734 that a Soviet nuclear submarine 215 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:24,200 at the bottom of the barents sea was nearly 216 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:28,033 a million times more radioactive than previously estimated. 217 00:09:28,166 --> 00:09:31,367 So are these freaky fish the result of all that dumping? 218 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,967 Our marine biologist, Dr. Shea conger looks for answers. 219 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:37,834 (Dramatic music) 220 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:42,633 Conger looks first at the fish's shape and scales. 221 00:09:42,767 --> 00:09:45,533 - If these fish were impacted by radiation, 222 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:47,767 we would expect to see strange bumps 223 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:50,667 or protrusions on different parts of the body. 224 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:56,433 But I don't see any signs of radiation sickness 225 00:09:56,567 --> 00:09:58,467 or poisoning throughout this animal. 226 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,900 Its epidermal tissue actually seems to be pretty intact. 227 00:10:02,033 --> 00:10:04,867 - [Tony] Okay, so conger says these fish aren't the victims 228 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,533 of a nuclear waste dump, but then, 229 00:10:06,667 --> 00:10:09,266 what else could explain some of these bizarre features? 230 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,734 Conger has a theory. 231 00:10:10,867 --> 00:10:14,333 - They undergo a process of what we call barometric trauma. 232 00:10:14,467 --> 00:10:15,333 - [Tony] It turns out that some 233 00:10:15,467 --> 00:10:17,433 of these fish have the bends. 234 00:10:17,567 --> 00:10:20,066 When human divers come up too quickly from the deep, 235 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,033 the change in pressure causes the gases 236 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:23,700 in their body to expand. 237 00:10:23,834 --> 00:10:25,667 Well, same for fish. 238 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,700 - Often, these fish will come to the surface 239 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:29,734 with their stomach sticking out of their mouth 240 00:10:29,867 --> 00:10:33,400 because of the extreme pressure of having the gases 241 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:35,967 within their body tissues expand at such a quick rate. 242 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:37,467 - [Tony] But there's got to be more 243 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,900 to this fish story, right? 244 00:10:39,033 --> 00:10:41,867 Congers says the real story was millions 245 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,266 of years in the making. 246 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,200 - Each species on earth has a very predictable 247 00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:48,433 and well-defined evolutionary pathway 248 00:10:48,567 --> 00:10:50,166 that makes it what it is today. 249 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:52,834 These animals aren't alien, they're just adapted 250 00:10:52,967 --> 00:10:55,934 to an extremely different environment than we're used to. 251 00:10:56,066 --> 00:10:58,734 (Dramatic music) 252 00:11:00,834 --> 00:11:02,794 - The jury is still out about the longterm effects 253 00:11:02,867 --> 00:11:05,734 this contamination will have on marine species. 254 00:11:05,867 --> 00:11:07,900 Dr. Conger cautions that the impact 255 00:11:08,033 --> 00:11:10,166 could take decades to be fully felt. 256 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,200 For us, natural evolution and the bends explain 257 00:11:13,333 --> 00:11:15,200 these weird looking fish. 258 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:18,600 So our verdict, this is a non-nuclear phenomenon. 259 00:11:20,233 --> 00:11:23,867 Up next, California wildfires are destroying homes, 260 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 but why are the trees left standing? 261 00:11:26,133 --> 00:11:28,767 - The us government was using energy weapons 262 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:30,867 to purposely start these forest fires. 263 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,967 - When "the proof is out there" returns. 264 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:41,100 (Dramatic music) 265 00:11:43,066 --> 00:11:45,533 In the wake of the recent California wildfires, 266 00:11:45,667 --> 00:11:49,233 a strange and sinister theory emerged from the ashes. 267 00:11:49,367 --> 00:11:52,233 The video you're about to see had some folks asking 268 00:11:52,367 --> 00:11:54,266 if the terrifying natural destruction 269 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,000 we observed was, in fact, unnatural. 270 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,867 - Pretty much total destruction. 271 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,166 I've seen every house destroyed on this road. 272 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,166 - [Tony] California wildfires have become 273 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:07,767 a perennial disaster. 274 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:09,200 In the aftermath, 275 00:12:09,333 --> 00:12:11,600 aerial footage shows wrenching images of destruction. 276 00:12:11,734 --> 00:12:14,967 - Here, we see the devastating after effects 277 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:18,533 of what these wildfires are leaving in their wake. 278 00:12:18,667 --> 00:12:20,533 - [Tony] But look closely at this shot. 279 00:12:20,667 --> 00:12:22,767 Does something seem off to you? 280 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:24,376 - One of the things that we're seeing that 281 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,166 is absolutely crazy are entire houses incinerated, 282 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:30,400 burned to the ground while trees surrounding them 283 00:12:30,533 --> 00:12:33,000 are completely left intact, untouched. 284 00:12:33,133 --> 00:12:36,700 The question is what is causing these wildfires? 285 00:12:36,834 --> 00:12:38,633 - [Tony] Let's zoom in on that. 286 00:12:38,767 --> 00:12:41,100 It does seem odd that the trees are standing 287 00:12:41,233 --> 00:12:43,367 while the houses are reduced to ash. 288 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:46,200 Journalist mj banias says images like these 289 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,333 have prompted some wild explanations 290 00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:50,233 that are getting attention online. 291 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:53,900 - According to Internet conspiracy theories, 292 00:12:54,033 --> 00:12:57,934 there's a secret government program known as agenda 21, 293 00:12:58,066 --> 00:13:00,633 the purpose of which is to force people 294 00:13:00,767 --> 00:13:02,900 to relocate into major cities. 295 00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:05,967 And then, as the conspiracy theory goes, 296 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:08,367 the government can then exercise more control 297 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:09,834 over the population. 298 00:13:09,967 --> 00:13:12,400 - [Tony] And how is this allegedly being accomplished? 299 00:13:12,533 --> 00:13:15,133 Forest fires and laser guns. 300 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:16,867 - The theory is that the us government 301 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,266 was using direct energy weapons to purposefully start 302 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,000 these forest fires to clear out towns 303 00:13:24,133 --> 00:13:26,433 or for some other nefarious reason. 304 00:13:26,567 --> 00:13:28,233 - Laser weapons are much more 305 00:13:28,367 --> 00:13:30,233 than staples of science fiction. 306 00:13:30,367 --> 00:13:33,700 During the cold war, the us and ussr poured resources 307 00:13:33,834 --> 00:13:36,834 into orbital space weapons, even deploying some. 308 00:13:36,967 --> 00:13:38,767 The so-called star wars missile defense system 309 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:41,667 was the most famous, but perhaps the most intriguing 310 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,100 was the air force's yal-1, 311 00:13:44,233 --> 00:13:46,066 which featured a laser system mounted 312 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,200 in a turret on a plane's nose. 313 00:13:48,333 --> 00:13:50,533 And that's just the technology we know about. 314 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,667 As you know, the us military did just launch space force, 315 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,843 but could the government really 316 00:13:57,867 --> 00:13:59,667 be using secret energy weapons 317 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,667 to start fires and control society? 318 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,700 We turn to our military expert, Tim mcmillan, 319 00:14:04,834 --> 00:14:06,200 for an explanation. 320 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:09,867 (Dramatic music) 321 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,633 - The idea of directed energy weapons, it's very exciting. 322 00:14:12,767 --> 00:14:14,734 I mean, we've heard about that since Star Trek. 323 00:14:14,867 --> 00:14:17,667 - [Tony] Tim says it's true that the major space powers 324 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,266 are all developing energy weapons 325 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,400 to take out each other's satellites, 326 00:14:21,533 --> 00:14:23,967 but striking the earth's surface? 327 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:26,633 - That is something that's very difficult to achieve 328 00:14:26,767 --> 00:14:30,600 and not technically, that we know of, achievable. 329 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,700 Whenever the laser's being projected down, 330 00:14:34,834 --> 00:14:38,133 it's got to travel through the atmosphere, clouds. 331 00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:40,867 Any one of these factors are going to cause 332 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,767 what's called atmospheric blooming. 333 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:45,967 And by the time it reaches earth, 334 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:48,200 it's not gonna have the amount of energy 335 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:50,400 to start a fire and burn something. 336 00:14:50,533 --> 00:14:53,066 - [Tony] So if a laser weapon is not possible, 337 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,100 then what can account for the strange aftermath footage? 338 00:14:56,233 --> 00:14:59,533 Science writer, Mick west, who lives in wildfire country, 339 00:14:59,667 --> 00:15:03,200 says it's simple: Houses burned much easier than trees. 340 00:15:03,333 --> 00:15:06,066 - But it's actually quite hard to burn green wood. 341 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,500 - [Tony] To demonstrate, west decides to do his own test. 342 00:15:09,633 --> 00:15:12,433 - I went into my attic and I got a piece of scrap wood. 343 00:15:12,567 --> 00:15:14,734 Then I went out into the field behind my house 344 00:15:14,867 --> 00:15:16,867 and I cut down a branch of a tree. 345 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,033 And then I took both of these pieces of wood 346 00:15:19,166 --> 00:15:20,567 and I put them in my fire 347 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:23,734 and I built identical piles of kindling under each one. 348 00:15:23,867 --> 00:15:25,734 And then I lit them both at the same time. 349 00:15:25,867 --> 00:15:28,633 The wood from my attic caught fire 350 00:15:28,767 --> 00:15:30,033 and burned part way through. 351 00:15:30,166 --> 00:15:32,133 The wood that I just cut from a tree 352 00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:35,033 just got a bit black on the outside, just got a bit sooty. 353 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:38,033 Even though they had the exact same small fires underneath, 354 00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:40,633 which shows that green wood doesn't burn, 355 00:15:40,767 --> 00:15:42,500 but the wood in your house does. 356 00:15:42,633 --> 00:15:45,333 (Dramatic music) 357 00:15:48,633 --> 00:15:50,433 - In fact, the average live tree 358 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:52,633 is about 50% water by weight. 359 00:15:52,767 --> 00:15:55,433 And while theories about directed energy weapons 360 00:15:55,567 --> 00:15:57,533 aren't gonna go away any time soon, 361 00:15:57,667 --> 00:16:00,834 that fact leads us to our unequivocal verdict. 362 00:16:00,967 --> 00:16:03,433 These fires are natural phenomenon. 363 00:16:04,767 --> 00:16:07,133 Coming up, famous reincarnations. 364 00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:08,533 Did Anne frank come back 365 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,533 as this other young writer? 366 00:16:10,667 --> 00:16:12,300 - [Hoan] That's kind of incredible. 367 00:16:12,433 --> 00:16:13,993 - When "the proof is out there returns." 368 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:16,834 (Dramatic music) 369 00:16:21,834 --> 00:16:24,233 (Dramatic music) 370 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:27,934 You ever get that feeling that you've been here before, 371 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:30,000 and I'm not talking about deja vu. 372 00:16:30,133 --> 00:16:32,266 I'm talking about reincarnation. 373 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,200 Millions believe in it as a matter of faith, 374 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:38,533 but could there be photographic proof it's real? 375 00:16:38,667 --> 00:16:39,967 On the silver screen, 376 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,700 actor Alec Baldwin has played dozens of characters. 377 00:16:42,834 --> 00:16:44,142 (Dramatic music) (Camera flashing) 378 00:16:44,166 --> 00:16:45,800 But some people think his greatest role 379 00:16:45,934 --> 00:16:47,767 wasn't an acting job, but instead, 380 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,667 as the 13th president of the United States, 381 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,100 Millard Fillmore. 382 00:16:52,233 --> 00:16:55,800 Look closely, those eyes, the nose, the mouth, 383 00:16:55,934 --> 00:16:57,266 and there's more. 384 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,560 The Internet has been buzzing 385 00:16:58,667 --> 00:16:59,676 with photos of celebrities 386 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:01,367 and their uncanny counterparts. 387 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,033 Not only Alec Baldwin. 388 00:17:03,166 --> 00:17:06,767 Actors like Matthew McConaughey as this 1800s doctor, 389 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,333 Orlando bloom as a 19th century composer, 390 00:17:09,467 --> 00:17:13,367 and Johnny Depp as this early 20th century choir director. 391 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,867 What if these aren't merely striking resemblances 392 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,500 but actual evidence of past lives? 393 00:17:18,633 --> 00:17:22,934 For barbro karlen, the idea of reincarnation isn't a theory. 394 00:17:23,066 --> 00:17:24,934 - I was about two and a half years old 395 00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:27,333 and my mother was calling my name. 396 00:17:27,467 --> 00:17:29,667 And then I said, "yes, but my name is not barbro. 397 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,633 My name is Anne frank." 398 00:17:31,767 --> 00:17:34,834 - [Tony] Born in 1954, barbro was a young writer 399 00:17:34,967 --> 00:17:37,000 like Anne frank and published her first book 400 00:17:37,133 --> 00:17:38,934 of poetry at age 12. 401 00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:42,400 And barbro insists she has vivid memories of her past life 402 00:17:42,533 --> 00:17:44,367 as the famed Dutch diarist. 403 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:48,934 - I woke up almost every night, screaming and crying, 404 00:17:49,066 --> 00:17:52,367 and reliving what happened to me in my past life. 405 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:53,333 It's like two worlds. 406 00:17:53,467 --> 00:17:55,834 I live in two worlds at the same time. 407 00:17:55,967 --> 00:17:58,200 - [Tony] To her family, that seemed implausible, 408 00:17:58,333 --> 00:18:01,500 until they visited Anne frank's home in Amsterdam. 409 00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:04,533 - I said, "I know exactly where we are," and I led the way. 410 00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:07,734 And sure enough, there it was. 411 00:18:08,934 --> 00:18:10,233 - [Tony] Barbro told a tour guide 412 00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:12,633 there were pictures missing from the walls. 413 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:15,934 - And she said, "barbro, you are absolutely right. 414 00:18:16,066 --> 00:18:18,266 They have taken down those pictures to put them 415 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,633 in frames, but they were there. 416 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,533 And Anne frank did put up those pictures. 417 00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:26,967 How could you know this?" 418 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,767 - [Tony] Barbro was just one of many. 419 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,300 Researchers at the university of Virginia corroborated 420 00:18:31,433 --> 00:18:34,233 1500 cases of past life memories. 421 00:18:34,367 --> 00:18:37,767 Could Baldwin, depp and McConaughey be other such cases? 422 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,567 (Dramatic music) 423 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:42,500 Now these celebrity lookalikes are certainly striking 424 00:18:42,633 --> 00:18:45,233 but are they really images of the same person? 425 00:18:45,367 --> 00:18:47,734 Let's put these photos to the test. 426 00:18:47,867 --> 00:18:50,600 (Dramatic music) 427 00:18:51,967 --> 00:18:55,467 Hoan ton-that is the co-founder and ceo of clearview ai, 428 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,266 a widely used facial recognition technology. 429 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,066 - The technology has really caught up. 430 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,500 And so with the clearview ai algorithm, 431 00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,767 if you've lost some weight and your face is thinner, 432 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:08,800 if you grow out a long beard, we can still recognize you. 433 00:19:08,934 --> 00:19:11,233 - [Tony] We gave hoan the photo of Alec Baldwin to see 434 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:13,734 if it's a match with Millard Fillmore. 435 00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:14,967 In our first test, 436 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,834 anything below a 0.8 on the scale is a match. 437 00:19:17,967 --> 00:19:20,734 Incredibly, the first test for Alec Baldwin came back just 438 00:19:20,867 --> 00:19:25,834 within range for the match category, a .78. 439 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,667 Could it be possible? 440 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,166 Not only are their faces similar, 441 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:31,420 but Alec Baldwin's passion for politics is well known. 442 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:34,600 It was once even rumored that he wanted to run for senate. 443 00:19:34,734 --> 00:19:36,266 Clearview repeated the test, 444 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,633 this time using 1.0 as the threshold. 445 00:19:38,767 --> 00:19:41,266 And once again, the results were astonishing. 446 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:46,467 - This score is 1.04, 447 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,300 barely above threshold for a match. 448 00:19:50,433 --> 00:19:53,033 So very, very close to the line there. 449 00:19:53,166 --> 00:19:54,467 And that's kind of incredible. 450 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,776 - [Tony] The number was so shocking 451 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,433 that a professional facial examiner 452 00:19:57,567 --> 00:19:59,333 was brought in to compare the photos. 453 00:19:59,467 --> 00:20:02,133 Hoan explains that analysis. 454 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:03,500 - When you look here, 455 00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:06,734 the first one is a lower lobe exterior shapes 456 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:08,266 are quite different. 457 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,834 And the other inconsistency was between the lips. 458 00:20:11,967 --> 00:20:16,300 And you can see that the photo a has a rounded upper lip 459 00:20:16,433 --> 00:20:17,633 and photo b, 460 00:20:17,767 --> 00:20:20,533 which is Alec Baldwin, has a thinner upper lip. 461 00:20:20,667 --> 00:20:23,433 - [Tony] So the photos are close, but not a perfect match. 462 00:20:23,567 --> 00:20:24,967 Neither was McConaughey. 463 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,433 And we're still waiting to hear about bloom and depp, 464 00:20:27,567 --> 00:20:30,667 but the question remains, is reincarnation real? 465 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,033 Barbro karlen's answer is yes. 466 00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:34,600 A hopeful yes. 467 00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:37,233 - I have had these memories and I have gone 468 00:20:37,367 --> 00:20:40,200 through this to be able to tell 469 00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:43,867 that there is always goodness and light 470 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,300 at the end of the tunnels. 471 00:20:46,433 --> 00:20:48,633 (Dramatic music) 472 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,834 - So is there truth to any of this? 473 00:20:52,967 --> 00:20:55,734 Well, I can't say, but there is definitely something 474 00:20:55,867 --> 00:20:58,834 very compelling about barbro karlen's story. 475 00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:02,367 But when it comes to Alec Baldwin and Millard Fillmore, 476 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:04,734 our verdict, not a match. 477 00:21:04,867 --> 00:21:06,009 And that's our show for tonight. 478 00:21:06,033 --> 00:21:07,834 If you have any comments or suggestions, 479 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,433 please reach out to us. 480 00:21:09,567 --> 00:21:12,934 I'm Tony Harris reminding you to keep those cameras rolling. 481 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:15,767 (Dramatic music) 38280

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