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- Tonight on "the
mproof is out there.".
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A glowing orbs
splits in the sky.
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- [Witness] Two things
are dropping down.
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Holy crap.
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- [Tony] Disturbing
creatures swim the sea.
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- These aren't natural animals
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but rather the product of
some sort of bizarre mutation.
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- [Tony] And are
California wildfires caused
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by laser weapons?
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- [Mj] The us government
was using energy weapons
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to purposely start
these forest fires.
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- [Tony] Around
the globe are videos.
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- [Woman] What the heck is this?
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- [Tony] Photos and sounds
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that defy explanation.
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(Dramatic music)
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- [Male] Is it some kind
of unidentified object?
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The plane that was
literally frozen in the air?
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- [Tony] What are they?
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- [Mj] Some sort
of bizarre mutation.
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- Extraordinary claims
need extraordinary proof.
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- I'm Tony Harris.
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And as a journalist
for more than 30 years,
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I've followed the facts
where they take me.
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Now, I'm bringing that
spirit of investigation
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to the world's strangest
sounds and images.
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We'll analyze each
one with top experts.
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- It's a credible case.
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It's a credible video.
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- [Tony] And pass a
verdict on what it is.
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- This video is clearly faked.
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- The proof starts now.
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(Dramatic music)
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Hi everybody.
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And welcome to "the
proof is out there."
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Let me start by asking
you to imagine you're
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at a family gathering,
celebrating the 4th of July,
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when an unexpected
guest shows up.
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And it's not your crazy uncle.
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It's something up in the sky.
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(Crowd cheering)
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It's independence day in
alamance, north Carolina,
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and a local man is enjoying
a barbecue with his family.
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Fireworks are going
off intermittently.
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So he's been looking
at the sky all evening
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when he suddenly sees
something even more spectacular.
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- [Tony] It's a classic
orb shaped ufo,
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the kind we've seen in several
videos, some real, some fake.
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And what makes this
footage extra special is
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that it goes on for
more than eight minutes.
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- [Witness] God, I wish
I had some binoculars.
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- [Tony] Now look
at what happens here
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at the six and a
half minute Mark.
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- Oh wow.
- Look at that.
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- Something's coming off of it.
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Two things are coming off of it.
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- [Witness] You said that.
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- [Wittness 2] Where is it at?
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- [Witness] One went up
and one's coming down.
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- [Wittness 2] What is it?
- [Wittness] Holy crap.
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Look at this.
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- [Tony] The orb
seems to bifurcate
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and seconds
later, it splits again.
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- [Witness] Oh, now something's
coming out of the other one.
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Holy (beep),
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third one's coming out.
- [Wittness 2] Oh my gosh.
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- [Wittness 2]
There's three different-
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oh my god, that's crazy.
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- [Tony] Like other orbs
seen around the world,
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this one had no wings or
obvious means of propulsion.
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It's hard to judge its speed,
but others have been clocked
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by commercial pilots at
over 500 miles per hour.
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- [Witness] And
it's pulsating, too.
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Man, that is nuts.
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- [Tony] Journalist
Alexis Brooks who writes
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and speaks about
ufos says the duration
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of this sighting is important.
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- Some individuals that
have long contact encounters,
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that is exceeding
five minutes or more
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may actually be having
a literal contact encounter
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without them being
consciously aware of it.
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Could it be the
non-human intelligence
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or the occupants of the craft
were actually making contact
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with the witness and vice versa?
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- [Witness] And here,
we get some action going
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on here, boys.
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- The witness
said he later tried
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to find some earthly
explanation for the incident,
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even checking with a
nearby military base.
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But to this day, he says
he's gotten no answers.
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Our experts may be
able to change that.
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(Dramatic music)
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Our video analyst Marc
d'Antonio begins by looking
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at the surrounding factors
involved in this event.
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- I stepped through it frame
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by frame to try to
isolate the components
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and equate them with something
that we might already know.
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It's actually pretty
high altitude.
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- [Tony] For starters,
d'Antonio is positive
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it couldn't be a bird.
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- Birds don't have that
kind of reflectivity to them.
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Even geese at high altitude,
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you can still detect
that they're birds.
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- [Tony] He's just as sure
it's not a plane or a drone.
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- [Marc] Planes and drones,
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they have to follow federal
aviation administration rules
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for lighting, and this
object had none of that.
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- [Tony] Nor could it be
a natural phenomenon
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like a meteor.
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It just hangs in
the sky too long.
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- Meteors are momentary objects.
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They go through the
sky and then they're gone.
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- [Tony] So what was it?
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The secret could be
in that strange splitting.
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- Here, you can see, in
this image, you can see how
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it's a teardrop shape and
these objects are falling away.
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And the object
that's way up there
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has changed
brightness tremendously.
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Now my thinking takes me
down the path of weather balloon.
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- [Tony] It certainly
wouldn't be the first time
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a weather balloon
was mistaken for a ufo.
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In fact, the government
initially claimed it
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was a weather balloon that
caused the roswell incident,
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but that still doesn't
explain how this thing
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could split apart and move
off in different directions.
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- I would guess that this
is a weather balloon where,
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whatever was
attached to it, broke off.
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And when something like
this happens and the resistance
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of the air will tend
to streamline it
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and make it more
into a teardrop shape.
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And that shape is what I
think we're seeing here.
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- [Tony] That theory
sounds plausible.
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But then to our surprise,
atmospheric scientist,
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Deanna hence,
shoots it out of the sky.
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- So I do think
it's really unlikely
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that this is any kind of, you
know, weather instrument.
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They come down
on a little parachute
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and they wouldn't emit
light this brightly like this.
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It doesn't seem to be
meteorologically related.
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- [Witness] You see it, Dee?
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You see a ufo?
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(Dramatic music)
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- So america, is
at proof or not?
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It doesn't appear to
be a bird or a plane.
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Could it be a weather balloon?
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Maybe, but a local weather
service later told the witness,
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there were none in the area.
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Until we get more
solid information,
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we're gonna call
this a genuine ufo.
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Coming up.
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Is this what happens
when you dump tons
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of nuclear waste into the sea?
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- So when DNA is
subject to radiation,
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you could end up
with anything, virtually.
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- When "the proof is
out there" continuous.
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(Dramatic music)
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There are an estimated
three and a half trillion fish
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in our oceans, which leaves us
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with a lot of unknowns about
what actually lives down there.
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And we've discovered
photographs of some
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of the most disturbing sea
creatures ever caught on camera.
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The question, were they spawned
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by an even more disturbing
man-made disaster?
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This is the barents sea,
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located between Russia
and the north pole.
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It's one of the most remote
and unexplored places on earth.
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And one deep sea fishermen
there has brought creatures
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to the surface
that are so bizarre,
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his Instagram account
has made headlines.
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(Camera flashing)
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Fish with bulging lips,
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what looks like human dentures
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and fluorescent
red colored eyes,
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creatures with heads
shaped like aliens.
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The images are so bizarre
and there are so many of them,
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journalist mj banias who
covers the unexplained
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says it's made people wonder
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if there's something
unnatural going on below.
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- These creatures
look so bizarre
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that people naturally
question something's wrong.
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One theory is that these
aren't natural animals,
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but rather, the product of
some sort of bizarre mutation.
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- [Tony] Look
again for yourself.
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Mutation seems like a
reasonable explanation for this.
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And it turns out, the idea
of mutated Russian fish
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may not be farfetched,
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as our military expert,
Tim mcmillan explains.
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- Any government
that has any kind
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of nuclear proliferation program
has always had this problem
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of how do you get
rid of your waste?
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And for a number of years,
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the Soviet union's
answer was dumping it
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into the barents sea.
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17,000 nuclear containers,
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multiple different nuclear
powered ships were sunk,
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and an entire nuclear
submarine from a period
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of about the 1950s until the
collapse of the Soviet union.
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- [Tony] Whoa, so the
Soviets used the barents sea
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as a nuclear toilet
bowl for decades
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and as our physicist,
Dr. Hakeem oluseyi explains,
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radiation and DNA don't mix.
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- Radiation is really
tiny subatomic particles
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that are flying along.
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And when they
encounter a DNA molecule,
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they can strike it and
break it and change it.
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So when DNA is
subject to radiation,
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then what happens
is the instructions
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for writing a new
animal are changed.
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So you could end up
with anything, virtually.
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- A recent scientific
study found
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that a Soviet nuclear submarine
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at the bottom of the
barents sea was nearly
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a million times more radioactive
than previously estimated.
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So are these freaky fish
the result of all that dumping?
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Our marine biologist, Dr. Shea
conger looks for answers.
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(Dramatic music)
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Conger looks first at the
fish's shape and scales.
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- If these fish were
impacted by radiation,
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we would expect to
see strange bumps
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or protrusions on
different parts of the body.
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But I don't see any
signs of radiation sickness
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or poisoning
throughout this animal.
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Its epidermal tissue actually
seems to be pretty intact.
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- [Tony] Okay, so conger
says these fish aren't the victims
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of a nuclear waste
dump, but then,
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what else could explain
some of these bizarre features?
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Conger has a theory.
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- They undergo a process of
what we call barometric trauma.
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- [Tony] It turns out that some
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of these fish have the bends.
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When human divers come
up too quickly from the deep,
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the change in pressure
causes the gases
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in their body to expand.
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Well, same for fish.
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- Often, these fish
will come to the surface
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with their stomach
sticking out of their mouth
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because of the extreme
pressure of having the gases
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within their body tissues
expand at such a quick rate.
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- [Tony] But there's
got to be more
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to this fish story, right?
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Congers says the
real story was millions
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of years in the making.
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- Each species on earth
has a very predictable
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and well-defined
evolutionary pathway
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that makes it what it is today.
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These animals aren't
alien, they're just adapted
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to an extremely different
environment than we're used to.
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- The jury is still out
about the longterm effects
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this contamination will
have on marine species.
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Dr. Conger cautions
that the impact
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could take decades
to be fully felt.
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For us, natural evolution
and the bends explain
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these weird looking fish.
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So our verdict, this is a
non-nuclear phenomenon.
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Up next, California wildfires
are destroying homes,
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but why are the
trees left standing?
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- The us government
was using energy weapons
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to purposely start
these forest fires.
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- When "the proof
is out there" returns.
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In the wake of the
recent California wildfires,
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a strange and sinister theory
emerged from the ashes.
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The video you're about to
see had some folks asking
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if the terrifying
natural destruction
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we observed was,
in fact, unnatural.
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- Pretty much total destruction.
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I've seen every house
destroyed on this road.
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- [Tony] California
wildfires have become
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a perennial disaster.
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In the aftermath,
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aerial footage shows
wrenching images of destruction.
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- Here, we see the
devastating after effects
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of what these wildfires
are leaving in their wake.
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- [Tony] But look
closely at this shot.
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Does something seem off to you?
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- One of the things
that we're seeing that
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is absolutely crazy are
entire houses incinerated,
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burned to the ground
while trees surrounding them
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are completely left
intact, untouched.
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The question is what is
causing these wildfires?
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- [Tony] Let's zoom in on that.
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It does seem odd that
the trees are standing
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while the houses
are reduced to ash.
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Journalist mj banias
says images like these
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have prompted some
wild explanations
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that are getting
attention online.
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- According to Internet
conspiracy theories,
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there's a secret government
program known as agenda 21,
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the purpose of which
is to force people
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to relocate into major cities.
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And then, as the
conspiracy theory goes,
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the government can
then exercise more control
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over the population.
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- [Tony] And how is this
allegedly being accomplished?
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Forest fires and laser guns.
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- The theory is that
the us government
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was using direct energy
weapons to purposefully start
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these forest fires
to clear out towns
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or for some other
nefarious reason.
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- Laser weapons are much more
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than staples of science fiction.
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During the cold war, the us
and ussr poured resources
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into orbital space weapons,
even deploying some.
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The so-called star wars
missile defense system
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was the most famous, but
perhaps the most intriguing
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was the air force's yal-1,
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which featured a
laser system mounted
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in a turret on a plane's nose.
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And that's just the
technology we know about.
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As you know, the us military
did just launch space force,
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but could the government really
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be using secret energy weapons
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to start fires and
control society?
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We turn to our military
expert, Tim mcmillan,
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for an explanation.
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- The idea of directed energy
weapons, it's very exciting.
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I mean, we've heard
about that since Star Trek.
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- [Tony] Tim says it's true
that the major space powers
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are all developing
energy weapons
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to take out each
other's satellites,
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but striking the
earth's surface?
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- That is something that's
very difficult to achieve
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and not technically, that
we know of, achievable.
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Whenever the laser's
being projected down,
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it's got to travel through
the atmosphere, clouds.
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Any one of these
factors are going to cause
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what's called
atmospheric blooming.
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And by the time
it reaches earth,
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it's not gonna have
the amount of energy
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to start a fire and
burn something.
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- [Tony] So if a laser
weapon is not possible,
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then what can account for
the strange aftermath footage?
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Science writer, Mick west,
who lives in wildfire country,
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says it's simple: Houses
burned much easier than trees.
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- But it's actually quite
hard to burn green wood.
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- [Tony] To demonstrate,
west decides to do his own test.
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- I went into my attic and I
got a piece of scrap wood.
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Then I went out into
the field behind my house
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and I cut down a
branch of a tree.
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And then I took both
of these pieces of wood
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and I put them in my fire
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and I built identical piles
of kindling under each one.
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And then I lit them
both at the same time.
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The wood from
my attic caught fire
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and burned part way through.
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The wood that I
just cut from a tree
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just got a bit black on the
outside, just got a bit sooty.
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Even though they had the exact
same small fires underneath,
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which shows that
green wood doesn't burn,
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but the wood in your house does.
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- In fact, the average live tree
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is about 50% water by weight.
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And while theories about
directed energy weapons
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aren't gonna go
away any time soon,
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that fact leads us to
our unequivocal verdict.
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These fires are
natural phenomenon.
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Coming up, famous
reincarnations.
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Did Anne frank come back
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as this other young writer?
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- [Hoan] That's
kind of incredible.
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- When "the proof
is out there returns."
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You ever get that feeling
that you've been here before,
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and I'm not talking
about deja vu.
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I'm talking about reincarnation.
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Millions believe in it
as a matter of faith,
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but could there be
photographic proof it's real?
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On the silver screen,
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actor Alec Baldwin has
played dozens of characters.
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(Dramatic music)
(Camera flashing)
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But some people
think his greatest role
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wasn't an acting
job, but instead,
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as the 13th president
of the United States,
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Millard Fillmore.
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Look closely, those
eyes, the nose, the mouth,
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and there's more.
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The Internet has been buzzing
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with photos of celebrities
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and their uncanny counterparts.
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Not only Alec Baldwin.
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Actors like Matthew
McConaughey as this 1800s doctor,
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Orlando bloom as a
19th century composer,
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and Johnny Depp as this
early 20th century choir director.
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What if these aren't merely
striking resemblances
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but actual evidence
of past lives?
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For barbro karlen, the idea
of reincarnation isn't a theory.
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- I was about two
and a half years old
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and my mother was
calling my name.
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And then I said, "yes,
but my name is not barbro.
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My name is Anne frank."
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- [Tony] Born in 1954,
barbro was a young writer
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like Anne frank and
published her first book
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of poetry at age 12.
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And barbro insists she has
vivid memories of her past life
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as the famed Dutch diarist.
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- I woke up almost every
night, screaming and crying,
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and reliving what happened
to me in my past life.
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It's like two worlds.
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I live in two worlds
at the same time.
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- [Tony] To her family,
that seemed implausible,
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until they visited Anne
frank's home in Amsterdam.
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- I said, "I know exactly where
we are," and I led the way.
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And sure enough, there it was.
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- [Tony] Barbro
told a tour guide
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there were pictures
missing from the walls.
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- And she said, "barbro,
you are absolutely right.
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They have taken down
those pictures to put them
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in frames, but they were there.
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And Anne frank did
put up those pictures.
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How could you know this?"
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- [Tony] Barbro was
just one of many.
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Researchers at the university
of Virginia corroborated
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1500 cases of
past life memories.
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Could Baldwin, depp and
McConaughey be other such cases?
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Now these celebrity
lookalikes are certainly striking
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but are they really images
of the same person?
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Let's put these
photos to the test.
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(Dramatic music)
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Hoan ton-that is the co-founder
and ceo of clearview ai,
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a widely used facial
recognition technology.
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- The technology
has really caught up.
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And so with the
clearview ai algorithm,
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if you've lost some weight
and your face is thinner,
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if you grow out a long beard,
we can still recognize you.
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- [Tony] We gave hoan the
photo of Alec Baldwin to see
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if it's a match with
Millard Fillmore.
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In our first test,
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anything below a 0.8
on the scale is a match.
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Incredibly, the first test for
Alec Baldwin came back just
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within range for the
match category, a .78.
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Could it be possible?
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Not only are
their faces similar,
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but Alec Baldwin's passion
for politics is well known.
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It was once even rumored
that he wanted to run for senate.
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Clearview repeated the test,
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this time using 1.0
as the threshold.
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And once again, the
results were astonishing.
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- This score is 1.04,
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barely above
threshold for a match.
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So very, very close
to the line there.
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And that's kind of incredible.
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- [Tony] The number
was so shocking
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that a professional
facial examiner
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was brought in to
compare the photos.
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Hoan explains that analysis.
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- When you look here,
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the first one is a lower
lobe exterior shapes
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are quite different.
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And the other inconsistency
was between the lips.
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And you can see that the
photo a has a rounded upper lip
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and photo b,
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which is Alec Baldwin,
has a thinner upper lip.
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- [Tony] So the photos are
close, but not a perfect match.
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Neither was McConaughey.
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And we're still waiting to
hear about bloom and depp,
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but the question remains,
is reincarnation real?
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Barbro karlen's answer is yes.
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A hopeful yes.
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- I have had these
memories and I have gone
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through this to be able to tell
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that there is always
goodness and light
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at the end of the tunnels.
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(Dramatic music)
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- So is there truth
to any of this?
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Well, I can't say, but
there is definitely something
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very compelling about
barbro karlen's story.
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But when it comes to Alec
Baldwin and Millard Fillmore,
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our verdict, not a match.
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And that's our show for tonight.
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If you have any
comments or suggestions,
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please reach out to us.
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I'm Tony Harris reminding you
to keep those cameras rolling.
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