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[electronic music]
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- ♪ MTV ♪
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[rain pattering]
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[Eminem's "Stan"]
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♪ ♪
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- A lot of people ask me...
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♪
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- Why did you write
the song "Stan?"
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- Is "Stan" based
on a real fan?
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- Why do you share so much
about yourself in your music?
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- What the hell goes
on in your brain?
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- Are you happy?
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- How's your daughter?
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- Who is someone that
helped you the same way
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that you helped me?
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- Do you feel like
the impact you've had
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is what you hoped
it would be?
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- What's it like
being famous?
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- How much fan mail
do you get?
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- How does it feel to be
followed by so many people?
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- Have you read my letter?
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♪ ♪
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- Is everyone ready?
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- All right,
Marshall, take one.
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- What's your first question?
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[Eminem's "Bad Guy"]
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ Time you can see
the truth ♪
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♪ But it's easier
to justify ♪
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♪ What's bad is good ♪
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♪ And I hate to be
the bad guy ♪
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[upbeat music]
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♪ I just hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ I just hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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- ♪ And I hate
to be the bad guy ♪
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- Hi, my name is
chicka-chicka Slim--
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[laughs]
I wanted to say Zolt Shady.
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Hi, my name is
chicka-chicka-chicka
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Zolt Shady.
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- Hi, my name is Alex.
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- Hi, my name is Daniyela.
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- Hi, my name is Giovanni.
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- Hi, my name is Brooklyn.
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- Hi, my name is James.
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- Hi, my name is Kyle.
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- Hi.
"My Name Is."
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- Well, no, you--
- [laughs]
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I'm s--I thought you
mean it like the song.
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[laughs]
Hi, my name is Nikki.
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- Let me just put my cape on.
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I don't even know
what these look like on.
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[laughs]
Too much?
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[laughs]
It's called the Eminem.
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Um, it's based off--
in his music video
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"Without Me."
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Um, although I did leave
my plastic ass at home,
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but this is my costume.
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- [laughs]
This is art.
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[laughs]
This is crazy.
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Early Eminem, Slim Shady.
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This is the type of mask
that he always wore
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in every concert,
early 2000s,
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everything like that.
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- How and why does a white
T-shirt become iconic?
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- Because, uh, there's
a Slim Shady in all of us.
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When he wears that shirt,
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and when I wear
that shirt as well,
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it symbolizes unity.
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They, um, have an Eminem
subreddit, r/eminem,
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and I enjoy being there.
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It's actually, uh,
where I found my people.
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- So I follow him
on all social medias.
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Every social media
that he has, that I have,
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I will follow him on.
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- I, like,
followed him every--
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not followed him everywhere,
'cause that
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sounds weird and creepy.
[laughs]
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- You should see
what my explore page
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on Instagram looks like.
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Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies,
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Eminem, Eminem, horror movies,
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Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles.
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Stuff like that.
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- I wake up every morning,
and it is a habit.
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It's a ritualistic routine.
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I think I do have
an addiction to Eminem.
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- Occasionally, like,
I'll go into, like,
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a YouTube, like,
rabbit hole where
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I'll, like,
watch old performances
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or music videos or interviews.
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And, like, what people
could say in interviews
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25 years ago versus
what they could say now, like,
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half the shit he said
was insane.
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[hip-hop music]
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- All right, y'all.
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Back here live
on the "Rap City" thing.
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I'm looking for my man.
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My man is not--
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- Ow!
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Ow!
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[sped-up speech]
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- Yo, cut the cameras, man.
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Come on, dog.
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Come on.
Come on.
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You all right?
- Hey!
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One...
- Ladies and gentlemen--
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- And a-two, and a-three--
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- Insane.
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This guy's insane.
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
introducing Eminem.
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[imitates cheering crowd]
Y'all give it up for Eminem.
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- [imitates cheering crowd]
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- What's up, dog?
- What's up, man?
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How you doing?
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- That right there,
it brought me back so much.
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Just the energy that he
came in when he was onscreen
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was a different type
of energy.
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[dramatic music]
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- This is an artist
called Eminem.
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It's spelled funky.
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If you're going to
pronounce it,
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it's like the candy.
Eminem.
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- I'm keeping it
gangster, homie.
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I'm keeping it gangster.
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I am flexing my bum-bum.
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[laughter]
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- There was a shock factor
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when I was first
discovering Eminem.
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- Here's Eminem doing one
of the best Michael Jackson
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impersonations I've ever seen.
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- He was definitely
a loose cannon.
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- Mom!
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No, yes, you did molest me.
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- This dude, he's got
a good sense of humor,
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and he's willing to express
his art, you know,
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with no boundaries.
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- I was 10 years old
sitting at home watching MTV
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in hopes to see
the Backstreet Boys
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or NSYNC come on,
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but it was Marshall Mathers.
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Slim Shady came on
with "My Name Is,"
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and my whole life changed
after that.
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[Eminem's "My Name Is"]
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- ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is
chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪
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♪ My name is ♪
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- I was coming home
from the police academy,
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and I hear, "Hi, my name is."
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And I was like, what is this?
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And so I listened to it
all the way home.
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It's not like anything else
I've heard before.
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I'm in.
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- ♪ Chicka-chicka
Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, kids,
do you like Primus ♪
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♪ Wanna see me stick
nine-inch nails ♪
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♪ Through each one
of my eyelids ♪
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- You want to copy me
and do exactly what I did?
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Try 'cid and get fucked up
worse than my life is?
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I was like, what?
Yeah!
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Sign me up.
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I'll do it.
[laughs]
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- ♪ My brain's dead weight ♪
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♪ I'm trying to get
my head straight ♪
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♪ But I can't figure
out which Spice Girl ♪
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♪ I want to impregnate ♪
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- Most of these rappers
back then,
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they want to portray this,
I'm from the streets,
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I'm a thug, I'm this,
don't fuck with me.
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He's just being him.
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He's just having
a grand time.
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- ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is
chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪
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- Nobody was making those
type of music videos.
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Most people were like,
half-naked, dancing,
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doing, like,
these big numbers.
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And he had, like, storylines.
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- ♪ 99% of my life,
I was lied to ♪
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♪ I just found out my mom
does more dope than I do ♪
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- When he started going
at these pop culture people,
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making fun of them to the T,
I'm just like, oh, my God,
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dude, this guy really
doesn't give a fuck.
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- I was, like, hypnotized.
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Like, my eyes were, like,
glued to the screen,
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and that kickstarted
my obsession with him.
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- We be live in Times Square,
"Total Request Live,"
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with the big videos,
the most requested ones.
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How about a round
of applause for Eminem?
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- Hi.
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- Making his--
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"TRL" at the time was new.
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It was always our intent
to have it be
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an exact reflection
of our audience.
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It was like, what if we gave
one hour of this network
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to the fans?
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And let's ask them
what they want.
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Let's take their requests.
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I was a radio guy,
and we did a lot
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of, like, requests in radio.
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Who did you want to see?
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Congratulations.
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"Slim Shady" is going
to number two next week...
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- Thank you.
- On the charts.
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- Thank you.
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- That deserves a round
of applause right there.
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- With a little--little bit
of help from MTV.
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- I've seen fans.
I've seen it all.
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I've never seen anything like
Marshall, Eminem fans, ever.
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- My name is!
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- How they show up,
what they look like,
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the connection that
they have with this artist,
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it's really deep.
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- The reason why
we're here today
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is because of his
creation of "Stan."
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He created a culture that is
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so out of the boundary
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of regular pop culture
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that he made his own term.
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- Anything I can grab
on Eminem, I'll find.
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Over a thousand interviews
I've watched, rewatched.
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He was the first one where
I was like, you know what?
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I could marry this guy.
[laughs]
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- I would say that
I'm a stan.
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I know three albums
back to back lyrically,
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every single word
of--of everything.
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I remember being him for
the talent show when I was
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11 and dressing up,
white T-shirt.
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I sprayed my hair yellow.
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- When I was five my brother
exposed me to his songs,
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and I kept listening
to it over and over,
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and all my friends
were like, oh, my God.
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Like, girl,
you need to calm down.
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- I have a book, a specific
book that I made.
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When I see Eminem,
[clicks tongue]
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I put it in the book.
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- There was a point in time
where every single magazine
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cover you looked at or saw,
no matter where you were,
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Marshall was on the cover.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- For so many people
admiring you that much
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and having such a strong
reaction to you,
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it must have been, like,
a high or something.
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- And the winner is Eminem,
"My Name Is."
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- I want to thank all the fans
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that made "Slim Shady"
possible.
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- All of a sudden,
you're skyrocketed into fame,
253
00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:39,160
and it's everything
you've ever wanted,
254
00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:40,378
everything
you ever dreamed of.
255
00:10:40,552 --> 00:10:42,946
I can't even imagine that.
256
00:10:43,077 --> 00:10:46,515
- Has it ever felt normal
in any sense of that word?
257
00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:49,213
- Well,
none of this is normal.
258
00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,562
None of it's normal.
259
00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,652
Once the "Hi, My Name Is"
video,
260
00:10:52,826 --> 00:10:57,569
once MTV accepted that
and played it,
261
00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,616
it was like a fucking switch
went off overnight.
262
00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:03,358
And all of a sudden, I woke up
the next day from that,
263
00:11:03,445 --> 00:11:07,405
and my entire life
was changed forever.
264
00:11:07,579 --> 00:11:10,191
Um, uh, we're gonna go
to, uh, my old house,
265
00:11:10,321 --> 00:11:11,409
and I'm going to knock
on the door
266
00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:12,541
and see if I can get in
267
00:11:12,628 --> 00:11:14,412
'cause I left something
in my room.
268
00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:15,979
This is the house.
269
00:11:16,153 --> 00:11:17,981
See back there,
that used to be a garage.
270
00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:20,462
One of my longtime friends,
DeShaun Holton.
271
00:11:20,592 --> 00:11:21,985
He's a rapper too.
His name is Proof.
272
00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:23,770
He used to take me up
in the lunchroom at Osborn.
273
00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:25,380
- What's up, dog?
274
00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:27,774
- I used to battle, like,
a lot of kids in the school.
275
00:11:27,861 --> 00:11:29,689
- Proof was Eminem's
best friend.
276
00:11:29,776 --> 00:11:32,126
He was there
from the beginning.
277
00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,171
Proof gave him a lot
of the confidence
278
00:11:34,302 --> 00:11:35,477
and a lot of courage.
279
00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:36,565
- The illest story is
we used to do
280
00:11:36,652 --> 00:11:37,914
the "White Men Can't Jump"
thing.
281
00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:39,437
I used to go in to sneak him--
282
00:11:39,568 --> 00:11:41,048
I used to sneak him
into Osborn,
283
00:11:41,178 --> 00:11:42,397
and everybody would be like,
I'll battle you, man.
284
00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:43,572
I'll battle.
285
00:11:43,746 --> 00:11:45,748
I'm like,
you ain't can't battle me.
286
00:11:45,835 --> 00:11:47,402
Why don't you battle him?
287
00:11:47,532 --> 00:11:49,012
And they'd be like,
oh, the white boy?
288
00:11:49,143 --> 00:11:51,232
[laughs]
I'ma kill him!
289
00:11:51,362 --> 00:11:52,537
I'ma kill him!
290
00:11:52,668 --> 00:11:53,800
Then he'd come out
busting a rhyme--
291
00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:55,627
- [trilling tongue]
292
00:11:55,758 --> 00:11:56,933
- Everybody
and they friends like--
293
00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58,369
- [laughs]
294
00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:00,981
- One of the reasons
I love Eminem's story
295
00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:04,680
is because he didn't set out
to become famous.
296
00:12:04,854 --> 00:12:06,987
He loves his art.
He loves what he does.
297
00:12:07,074 --> 00:12:08,858
- Hello, I'm Slim Shady.
298
00:12:08,945 --> 00:12:11,165
- I don't think
he ever could have seen
299
00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:13,776
where it would have gone to.
300
00:12:13,907 --> 00:12:16,170
- I cut class--
don't tell my mother--
301
00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:17,867
and...
[laughs]
302
00:12:17,954 --> 00:12:19,695
And we were sitting
in my boy's house,
303
00:12:19,826 --> 00:12:23,612
and we had MTV playing,
and my boys were just like,
304
00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,440
oh, just another
white rapper.
305
00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:27,311
And I was like, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
306
00:12:27,442 --> 00:12:29,879
I've never heard anybody
do it like he did it.
307
00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:31,620
And that's when I started
going down that wormhole.
308
00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,491
[dial-up modem beeping]
309
00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,102
Where did he come from?
310
00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:37,582
Where was his origin story?
311
00:12:37,713 --> 00:12:39,280
- ♪ Bus it, what? ♪
312
00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:41,935
♪ It's only fair to warn I was
born with a set of horns ♪
313
00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,502
♪ And metaphors attached
to my dang umbilical cord ♪
314
00:12:44,676 --> 00:12:47,462
♪ Warlord of rap that'll
bash you with a 2x4 board ♪
315
00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:50,030
♪ And smash into your Honda
Accord with a four-door Ford ♪
316
00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,510
[laughter]
317
00:12:55,122 --> 00:12:58,255
♪ Look, any rapper saying
those kind of rhymes ♪
318
00:12:58,342 --> 00:13:00,954
♪ In this day and age,
in this period of time ♪
319
00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:03,304
♪ Trying to battle Eminem
is worse than David Starr ♪
320
00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:05,785
♪ Trying to battle Proof,
Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪
321
00:13:05,872 --> 00:13:07,308
[laughter]
322
00:13:07,438 --> 00:13:09,919
- When I found out that
this is a battle rap rapper,
323
00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,444
and rapping all these
Black rappers in Detroit?
324
00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:14,968
- ♪ Look, my face is pale ♪
325
00:13:15,098 --> 00:13:16,665
♪ But you look like
you seen a ghost ♪
326
00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,101
- I knew this was
a matter of time
327
00:13:18,232 --> 00:13:19,799
that this guy was
going to make it.
328
00:13:19,973 --> 00:13:21,278
- I've been rhyming
a long time,
329
00:13:21,365 --> 00:13:23,324
and battle rap is everything,
330
00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:24,934
you know what I'm saying?
331
00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:30,070
It is the equivalent of being
completely vetted in hip-hop,
332
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,245
you know what I'm saying?
333
00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:33,073
Because you learn
crowd control,
334
00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:35,336
those lyrical choices,
that storytelling.
335
00:13:35,466 --> 00:13:37,512
That's not stuff
that you can make up.
336
00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:39,122
You can't fake that.
337
00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:41,603
- Eminem is forged
in battle rap.
338
00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:44,258
He's what I call
a natural-born killer.
339
00:13:44,345 --> 00:13:46,173
And then he took that
to the Rap Olympics,
340
00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:50,177
where all the best rappers
battle for number one.
341
00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:51,874
- ♪ I'ma tell you this
for your own benefit ♪
342
00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:53,528
♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪
343
00:13:53,615 --> 00:13:55,182
♪ Especially when
you wrote 90% of it ♪
344
00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:59,099
The first prize was $500,
and I needed that $500, man,
345
00:13:59,186 --> 00:14:00,361
and I lost.
346
00:14:00,491 --> 00:14:02,189
I was fucking devastated.
347
00:14:02,363 --> 00:14:07,020
- For him to lose,
he was crushed.
348
00:14:07,194 --> 00:14:09,718
But an intern approached him
and said, "Hey, man,
349
00:14:09,805 --> 00:14:11,285
can I have one of your tapes?"
350
00:14:11,372 --> 00:14:13,504
And then he left to go
back home to Detroit
351
00:14:13,591 --> 00:14:16,246
to try to continue
to make music.
352
00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:19,032
- All of a sudden, we get
a call from Jimmy Iovine
353
00:14:19,162 --> 00:14:21,904
and Dre himself saying,
"We want to meet with you.
354
00:14:22,035 --> 00:14:23,514
We like your tape."
355
00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:25,690
- Dr. Dre, to me,
356
00:14:25,821 --> 00:14:28,868
is the greatest producer
of our time.
357
00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:31,653
- ♪ You never been on a ride
like this before ♪
358
00:14:31,783 --> 00:14:33,698
♪ With a producer who can rap
and control the micstro ♪
359
00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:34,961
♪ At the same time ♪
360
00:14:35,091 --> 00:14:36,876
The first time
I heard Eminem was in,
361
00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:38,878
um, Jimmy's garage,
where he used
362
00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:40,531
to have a listening section.
363
00:14:40,618 --> 00:14:42,664
And back then,
it was just cassette tapes,
364
00:14:42,838 --> 00:14:44,709
and he popped this one in,
and he said,
365
00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:46,146
"What do you think
about this?"
366
00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,843
And it just happened
to be Eminem's demo,
367
00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,845
and it had five songs on it,
and one of them
368
00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:52,804
was a song called
"I Just Don't Give a Fuck."
369
00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:54,981
- ♪ When you see me on
your block with two Glocks ♪
370
00:14:55,068 --> 00:14:56,808
♪ Screaming fuck the world
like Tupac ♪
371
00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,027
♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪
372
00:14:58,158 --> 00:15:00,334
- I thought it was just
fucking fascinating.
373
00:15:00,421 --> 00:15:02,771
I had no idea that
what I was listening to
374
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,425
was a white guy, right?
375
00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:05,817
I had no idea.
376
00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,515
I just knew that
I wanted to work with him.
377
00:15:07,602 --> 00:15:09,996
- Dre was just all in.
378
00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:12,824
And when Dre likes
something that much,
379
00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,392
we really pay attention,
especially me.
380
00:15:15,479 --> 00:15:19,222
So I was kind of like,
OK, fly this guy out here.
381
00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:20,832
- And when you first met,
382
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,964
what did you think
of each other?
383
00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:23,270
- I thought he was
Tweety Bird.
384
00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:26,099
[laughter]
385
00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:28,188
No, 'cause he had this real--
- Fuck you.
386
00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:31,931
- He had this real bright
fucking yellow sweat suit on.
387
00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:33,149
- Man, if I hear
one more thing
388
00:15:33,236 --> 00:15:35,717
about that goddamn sweat suit.
389
00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:37,588
- Why are you wearing
a yellow sash?
390
00:15:37,762 --> 00:15:38,850
- The yellow sash.
391
00:15:39,025 --> 00:15:41,810
Um, in honor of Eminem's
yellow jumpsuit
392
00:15:41,897 --> 00:15:43,855
the day he met Dre,
which I think is just
393
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,553
such a magical moment
in itself.
394
00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:47,990
- But he called me a banana
when he met me,
395
00:15:48,077 --> 00:15:51,037
so it was on from there.
396
00:15:51,211 --> 00:15:53,822
- Dre has always been
pushing the edges.
397
00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:56,956
And this guy starts
on the edge,
398
00:15:57,086 --> 00:16:00,568
so it was a--it was
a marriage made somewhere.
399
00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:02,309
[laughs]
400
00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:06,226
- Without Dre, I don't know
where Eminem would be,
401
00:16:06,313 --> 00:16:09,664
and what shaped him
in his earlier life
402
00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:12,493
carries on with him even now.
403
00:16:12,623 --> 00:16:14,147
[line beeps]
404
00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,366
- Hey, Em, what's going on?
It's Paul.
405
00:16:16,497 --> 00:16:18,151
Uh, listen,
if you wanna talk
406
00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:20,022
to those camera crews,
go ahead,
407
00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:21,806
just don't say
a bunch of dumb shit.
408
00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:23,417
All right, call me back.
409
00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:25,680
[line clicks]
410
00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:28,030
- There's a lot of method
to this madness.
411
00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:30,772
I always keep this shit,
Entertainer's Secret.
412
00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:33,383
Shh.
Don't tell nobody.
413
00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:37,648
Um, it's, uh--actually,
Rick Rubin told me about this,
414
00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:40,303
and ever since the day
he told me about it,
415
00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:43,785
I've been using it for
the past seven years straight.
416
00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:47,006
I use it onstage.
It's fucking incredible.
417
00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:51,271
Especially, like, you know,
my voice only lasts so long,
418
00:16:51,401 --> 00:16:53,882
especially if I'm doing,
like, some, like,
419
00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:55,579
screaming shit or something.
420
00:16:55,710 --> 00:16:59,322
So like, this is the--this
is my best friend right here.
421
00:16:59,453 --> 00:17:01,498
- What's it taste like?
422
00:17:01,629 --> 00:17:03,544
- Uh, semen.
423
00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:06,329
Not that I know
how that tastes.
424
00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:11,900
But if I were to guess,
I would say semen.
425
00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,510
I go through pens.
426
00:17:13,597 --> 00:17:15,338
I did go through
a couple years
427
00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,167
where I was trying to use
red ink and blue ink,
428
00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:20,735
different colored inks
for different color ideas,
429
00:17:20,822 --> 00:17:22,911
like different ideas and shit,
but it didn't work.
430
00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:26,828
I just stuck to the black
and just stayed with it.
431
00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,483
Every time I write, there's
different stages of it,
432
00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:32,921
and that's one of the reasons
that I keep a book now
433
00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,531
and I never get
writer's block.
434
00:17:34,662 --> 00:17:37,969
♪ ♪
435
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,450
I'm always able
to go back in my book
436
00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:43,758
and have unlimited ideas.
437
00:17:46,195 --> 00:17:49,459
Sometimes I just write
my rhyming words down
438
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:52,332
and not the stuff in between,
so that it can't be
439
00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:54,986
put together
if someone finds it.
440
00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:03,560
- To see his lyric sheets,
I mean, this is--
441
00:18:03,647 --> 00:18:05,301
this is magic right here.
442
00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:08,130
If I could own
an original piece
443
00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:09,827
I would frame this
in my home,
444
00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:11,090
and I'd point it out
to any fucking people
445
00:18:11,177 --> 00:18:12,439
that walked in.
446
00:18:12,613 --> 00:18:14,267
I'd make them look at it
with me.
447
00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:16,573
I'd make them dissect it
under a microscope with me.
448
00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,185
I'd make them say,
"oh, yo, this song--
449
00:18:19,315 --> 00:18:20,708
this line
went into this song."
450
00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:21,839
- I'm looking at something
451
00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,754
that resembles
my grocery list.
452
00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:26,540
I write like this.
453
00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:27,628
My husband hates it.
454
00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:29,978
I seriously write
the same way.
455
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,154
I want to pick
this man's brain.
456
00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:33,938
- Like, it's a lot of
just, like, scribbles
457
00:18:34,069 --> 00:18:34,983
and, like, thoughts.
458
00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:38,639
But wow, this is--
459
00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:40,815
yeah.
[laughs]
460
00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:42,730
There's--there's
a lot of cursing on here.
461
00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,253
But I think it says,
462
00:18:44,340 --> 00:18:46,734
"Fuck, I'm sick
of duckin' in public."
463
00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:50,085
[soft music]
464
00:18:50,259 --> 00:18:53,001
- When I look
at the handwritten lyrics,
465
00:18:53,088 --> 00:18:55,264
I feel like
I see a busy brain.
466
00:18:55,395 --> 00:19:00,400
♪ ♪
467
00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:04,578
Seeing how he gets
the things out of his brain
468
00:19:04,752 --> 00:19:07,842
that way definitely influenced
me to get your thoughts out
469
00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:09,017
and making sense of them.
470
00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:10,236
- You know, I have a PhD,
but it's not
471
00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:12,281
in typography or whatever.
472
00:19:12,412 --> 00:19:14,065
But it's like, it certainly
looks like someone
473
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:18,157
who is dealing
with some intense emotion.
474
00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:20,246
It looks like it was
very scribbled down
475
00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:21,856
kind of hastily,
476
00:19:21,943 --> 00:19:24,598
and trying to spontaneously
capture something.
477
00:19:24,772 --> 00:19:27,340
♪
478
00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:30,299
- I think it was, like,
a "Rolling Stone" interview.
479
00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,562
They asked him
if he ever thought about
480
00:19:32,693 --> 00:19:34,521
going to a shrink,
and he said he don't need to
481
00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:37,698
'cause his music is
his therapy, and honestly,
482
00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:40,135
that's--that's the best
therapy there is.
483
00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,050
Like, when you have an outlet,
something that you're
484
00:19:42,224 --> 00:19:44,835
passionate about,
and you use that.
485
00:19:44,922 --> 00:19:45,836
That's the best way.
486
00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:49,536
♪
487
00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:53,496
- My childhood certainly
wasn't the greatest.
488
00:19:53,583 --> 00:19:57,239
I always took that learning
experiences from my childhood
489
00:19:57,326 --> 00:19:59,415
and life lessons
and kind of was able
490
00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:03,680
to apply them
through my music.
491
00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:06,466
- I definitely find
relatability in him
492
00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:09,773
because he's somebody
who has written
493
00:20:09,904 --> 00:20:13,342
so honestly about struggling,
and I feel like that's why
494
00:20:13,429 --> 00:20:16,215
so many people
can relate to him.
495
00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:17,694
- I had the greatest life
in the world,
496
00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,348
coming from
a single-parent home.
497
00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:20,784
You know, my mother
never had a job.
498
00:20:20,958 --> 00:20:22,656
I hate to say that, you know.
499
00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:25,572
But, um, it took a toll, man,
being bounced around
500
00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,269
from school to school to
school to school to school,
501
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,705
from state to state.
502
00:20:28,836 --> 00:20:30,707
And friends come over
and you don't
503
00:20:30,794 --> 00:20:33,536
want them to see your family's
on welfare and shit,
504
00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:35,712
so you hide the cheese
and shit like that.
505
00:20:35,843 --> 00:20:37,148
You know, that's real.
506
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,149
I mean, it's funny,
but it's not funny,
507
00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:39,542
you know what I mean?
508
00:20:39,716 --> 00:20:41,327
It's like I look back on it
like, damn,
509
00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:43,198
that's fucked up,
you know, but--
510
00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:46,723
- My mom and I had a pretty
unstable relationship
511
00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:49,552
growing up, and there was
a lot of struggles
512
00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:52,729
with finances 'cause
it was just the two of us.
513
00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:55,341
I also came out
as a transgender man,
514
00:20:55,428 --> 00:20:57,386
and transness,
or even queerness,
515
00:20:57,473 --> 00:21:01,608
was not a conversation
in the area I grew up in.
516
00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:06,177
Being born female, it was
a very isolating, like,
517
00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:10,312
feeling to not really
know anyone else
518
00:21:10,399 --> 00:21:12,009
who I could relate to.
519
00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:17,624
His struggles with bullying
also lined up with mine.
520
00:21:17,798 --> 00:21:20,191
There was a lot of moments
where I didn't make--
521
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:24,283
like, I wasn't sure if I would
make it out on the other side.
522
00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:27,111
- Eminem was
bullied relentlessly
523
00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:29,113
in elementary school.
524
00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:32,726
And it's horribly tragic
to me because even now
525
00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:34,336
I carry some of the traumas
526
00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:38,732
of my own life
from being bullied,
527
00:21:38,819 --> 00:21:41,822
and I can feel that in some
of the music he's written.
528
00:21:41,952 --> 00:21:43,824
- So in the song
"Brain Damage,"
529
00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:48,045
Eminem or Marshall is
getting bullied at school.
530
00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,961
[Eminem's "Brain Damage"]
531
00:21:51,135 --> 00:21:58,229
♪
532
00:22:09,545 --> 00:22:11,808
- You know, bleeding
on the carpet
533
00:22:11,895 --> 00:22:15,029
and then having your parent
being like, look at you,
534
00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:16,770
you're getting blood
all over my rugs--
535
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,033
I felt that.
536
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,165
Growing up, I would
get into fights.
537
00:22:21,296 --> 00:22:24,255
I'd get into fights
a good amount.
538
00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:27,346
I'd get bullied
from other kids
539
00:22:27,476 --> 00:22:30,174
calling me a faggot
for wearing tight pants
540
00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:32,568
because I was a skater kid.
541
00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:34,614
Going into my room,
and then putting on
542
00:22:34,744 --> 00:22:38,661
a song like "Brain Damage,"
that's what helped me.
543
00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:40,359
- It was sophomore year,
and I went to go
544
00:22:40,533 --> 00:22:42,448
to a Super Bowl party
with my friends.
545
00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:44,101
We were watching
the Super Bowl,
546
00:22:44,232 --> 00:22:45,233
and I had my hands
in my head--
547
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,322
my head in my hands like this,
548
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:49,846
sitting on the ground with
my stomach on the ground,
549
00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:51,674
looking up at the TV.
550
00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:55,374
And a kid on the couch
spilled his iced tea
551
00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,289
and went, "Oh, I know what I
can use to pick that up with,"
552
00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:00,117
and grabbed his other friend.
553
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:01,902
They picked me up by my feet
and used my hair as a mop
554
00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:06,167
and then threw me
on the ground, and I was--
555
00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:10,084
these were supposed
to be my friends.
556
00:23:10,214 --> 00:23:13,566
It made me sometimes not
want to go to school,
557
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:17,657
but I went because
I had Marshall's music.
558
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,528
[bell rings]
559
00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:21,312
I would put my CD player on
560
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,533
and just walk
through the hallways.
561
00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:26,666
He inspired me to write.
562
00:23:26,753 --> 00:23:28,885
I write poetry.
563
00:23:29,059 --> 00:23:32,933
I loved how he could just
bend the English language,
564
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,544
use different words
to rhyme off other words
565
00:23:35,675 --> 00:23:37,981
that necessarily
wouldn't rhyme,
566
00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:41,332
like orange,
door hinge, syringe.
567
00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:45,424
That's great.
[laughs]
568
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:50,429
His music made me feel like
I wasn't alone in this world,
569
00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:52,343
with what I was
going through.
570
00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,433
[somber music]
571
00:23:54,563 --> 00:23:56,347
- Hip-hop was
the most important thing
572
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,393
that empowered me as a kid.
573
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,787
It made me feel tough
when I wasn't.
574
00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:04,007
I was a scrawny little kid
growing up on 8 Mile,
575
00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:07,184
walking up the fucking block,
put headphones on,
576
00:24:07,271 --> 00:24:10,623
and it made me feel powerful.
577
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:13,495
Hip-hop, it taught me how
to throw my first punch,
578
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:16,019
gave me the confidence.
It was like my dad.
579
00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:18,413
And it was the only thing
that made me empowered.
580
00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:19,980
It made me feel good
about myself.
581
00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:21,590
And when I started being able
to write rhymes
582
00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:23,636
and figured out
I could do it,
583
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:27,901
that's where
the feeling comes from.
584
00:24:28,031 --> 00:24:31,252
- As a teenager, I definitely
had a lot of anger.
585
00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:34,298
I haven't met my father in
person since I was probably,
586
00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:37,737
like, one or two or something.
587
00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,826
But I never had anybody
that I could relate to
588
00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:43,003
in that regard growing up.
589
00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:44,526
Whenever he would talk
about his father too,
590
00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:46,615
he always sounded so angry.
591
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:49,444
So I always gravitated
more towards
592
00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:51,533
the angrier-sounding Eminem,
593
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,231
and Slim Shady was
his alter ego
594
00:24:54,318 --> 00:24:55,711
and split personality
for that.
595
00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,540
- Eminem, Slim Shady,
Marshall Mathers.
596
00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,673
Could you briefly tell us
where one stops,
597
00:25:00,803 --> 00:25:02,065
the other one begins,
and the difference
598
00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:03,893
between the three
different characters?
599
00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:07,157
- Marshall Mathers stops
when the Bacardi kicks in,
600
00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:09,029
and then it's Slim Shady.
601
00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:11,118
- Marshall is
the human being where
602
00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:15,905
the heart and the human
experience come from.
603
00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:19,561
Eminem is the artist
through which Slim Shady
604
00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:21,389
and Marshall are channeled.
605
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,478
That's where you see
the skill and the talent.
606
00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:27,134
And then Slim Shady is
this cartoon character.
607
00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:30,311
- Slim is, uh,
the jokester, the hey,
608
00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:31,921
I'm here for a good time.
609
00:25:32,095 --> 00:25:34,054
- A crazy son of a bitch...
610
00:25:34,141 --> 00:25:37,057
[laughs]
Um, that I love.
611
00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:40,103
- He has, like, this
I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude.
612
00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,497
- He's like a psycho,
but in a good way.
613
00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:45,021
Uh, says whatever
the fuck he wants to say.
614
00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:48,068
He'll probably kill if you
look at him the wrong way.
615
00:25:48,155 --> 00:25:49,199
- I'm putting the mask on.
616
00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:51,071
I'm like, I can be me.
617
00:25:51,158 --> 00:25:52,333
I can say what I want.
618
00:25:52,463 --> 00:25:54,509
I can flip a fucking desk
if I needed to.
619
00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:56,424
Even though he was
just being himself,
620
00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:57,730
people didn't like that.
621
00:25:57,904 --> 00:25:59,775
People did not
like that at all.
622
00:25:59,906 --> 00:26:00,646
- I mean,
let's just say the least,
623
00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:02,386
it was a trying time.
624
00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:06,129
We were criticized enormously
for putting his music out.
625
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,698
- That controversy was covered
extensively by the media.
626
00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:11,047
- While Black rappers
often get a pass
627
00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:12,396
on lyrical nihilism,
628
00:26:12,527 --> 00:26:14,311
Eminem, who's white,
has been taking
629
00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:17,358
some intense critical heat for
his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes.
630
00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,316
- In Eminem's songs,
women are portrayed
631
00:26:19,403 --> 00:26:22,102
as little more
than strippers,
632
00:26:22,232 --> 00:26:24,974
punching bags,
and sperm receptacles.
633
00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,976
- It's so sad to see
those parents dropping
634
00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:28,761
their children off
and saying,
635
00:26:28,891 --> 00:26:30,371
I don't know what
the lyrics are all about.
636
00:26:30,501 --> 00:26:33,113
[Vivaldi's
"The Four Seasons, 'Spring'"
637
00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:37,900
♪ ♪
638
00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:39,946
- Perhaps one
of the most interesting words
639
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,950
in the English language today
is the word "fuck."
640
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:45,342
Out of all
of the English words
641
00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:47,606
that begin with the letter F,
642
00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,913
"fuck" is the only word that
is referred to as the F-word.
643
00:26:51,044 --> 00:26:55,309
It's the one magical word,
just by its sound,
644
00:26:55,396 --> 00:26:59,269
can describe pain, pleasure,
hate, and love.
645
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,360
In English, fuck falls into
many grammatical categories.
646
00:27:03,491 --> 00:27:05,711
As a transitive verb,
for instance:
647
00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:07,713
"John fucked Shirley."
648
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,758
As an intransitive verb:
649
00:27:09,932 --> 00:27:11,586
"Shirley fucks."
650
00:27:11,673 --> 00:27:13,022
It can be used
as an adjective,
651
00:27:13,153 --> 00:27:16,330
such as, "John's doing
all the fucking work."
652
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:18,332
As part of an adverb:
653
00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:20,726
"Shirley talks
too fucking much."
654
00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:22,423
As a noun:
655
00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:24,381
"I don't give a fuck."
656
00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,993
With all of these
multipurpose applications,
657
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,083
how can anyone be offended
when you use the word?
658
00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:33,173
Say it loudly and proudly.
659
00:27:33,303 --> 00:27:37,003
Fuck you!
660
00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:38,569
- You rap about raping
and killing women,
661
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:39,832
but you really don't do that,
do you, Eminem?
662
00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:41,137
- Yes.
- You do rape and kill women?
663
00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:42,443
- Yes.
664
00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:43,966
- Uh, are you amazed
at the, uh,
665
00:27:44,053 --> 00:27:45,576
the firestorm that has begun,
and are you afraid
666
00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,274
it could be
a career-destroyer?
667
00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:49,232
- Um, I'm not worried
about it because anybody
668
00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:50,756
with half a brain is
going to be able to tell
669
00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:52,932
when I'm joking
and when I'm serious.
670
00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:54,890
With the first album,
"The Slim Shady LP,"
671
00:27:55,021 --> 00:27:57,240
all of a sudden,
now it's important.
672
00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:00,069
What I have to say
is important.
673
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,857
I remember one of the first
times signing autographs,
674
00:28:04,944 --> 00:28:06,946
there'd be, like,
a line out the door,
675
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,123
and somebody would be like,
yo, I just want you to know,
676
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:12,952
man, you helped me so much
for--for this or for that.
677
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,388
So now I'm like...
678
00:28:14,475 --> 00:28:15,737
What's your name?
679
00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:17,521
Writing a long paragraph
for them and shit,
680
00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:19,523
and signing their name,
and people are like, yo,
681
00:28:19,654 --> 00:28:20,916
can you speed it up
a little bit?
682
00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:21,743
'Cause we're not going
to get to everybody.
683
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:22,788
Hello.
- Can I have a hug?
684
00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,267
- How you doing?
685
00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:26,617
I was living inside it
when it was all new to me
686
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,707
and I still didn't
understand it.
687
00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:31,492
- You know, this guy
has been somebody
688
00:28:31,622 --> 00:28:33,712
that I've been trying to meet
for a long time,
689
00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:37,803
and he's not easy
to get close to.
690
00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:41,328
Since I was 14,
I had this fandom in me
691
00:28:41,502 --> 00:28:43,156
that I wanted
to, like, express,
692
00:28:43,286 --> 00:28:44,810
and I just didn't
know how to.
693
00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:50,685
I remember the first
portrait tattoo that I got,
694
00:28:50,859 --> 00:28:54,297
being really anxious
about the pain.
695
00:28:54,471 --> 00:28:59,825
It's like a scratch,
quite a sharp scratch,
696
00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:01,914
and it depends kind of
697
00:29:02,001 --> 00:29:03,219
what it is that
you're having done.
698
00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,787
Like, the lines are
the worst because it's
699
00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:08,007
being dragged
against your skin.
700
00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,270
But I fell in love
with the process
701
00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,751
of tattooing that day.
702
00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:15,971
I've kind of described it as,
I walked in one person
703
00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:19,540
and left a different person.
704
00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:22,978
And then it kind
of snowballed after that.
705
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,546
In 2020, I set
the Guinness World Record
706
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,332
for having the most tattoos
of the same musician.
707
00:29:29,463 --> 00:29:32,596
It has become my identity.
708
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:36,122
Now that I've got the ink,
I feel like
709
00:29:36,296 --> 00:29:38,689
I've got to have
a possibility of meeting him.
710
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,822
[flashbulbs bursting]
711
00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:42,345
- The first time
I met Marshall was
712
00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:44,086
for the "Rolling Stone"
cover.
713
00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:47,263
I was just shown into,
like, a conference room,
714
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,091
and no one else was in there.
715
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:51,224
And I sort of asked
the security guy to let me in.
716
00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:52,921
Like, just, hey,
is Marshall around?
717
00:29:53,052 --> 00:29:54,836
I just want to say hi,
and all that stuff.
718
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:56,664
So he pointed to a door
that I didn't
719
00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:58,971
realize was the bathroom.
720
00:29:59,058 --> 00:30:02,713
And, uh, and I opened it up,
and I heard him puking.
721
00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:03,932
[toilet flushes]
722
00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:05,542
He came out of the stall.
723
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,109
I was like, uh, hi, Marshall,
724
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,328
it's really nice to meet you.
725
00:30:08,415 --> 00:30:09,546
Put my hand out.
726
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:10,417
I'm Anthony
from "Rolling Stone,"
727
00:30:10,504 --> 00:30:12,811
like, super dork.
728
00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,725
And he just looked at me
and, like, burped...
729
00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:15,901
[belching sound effect]
730
00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,163
And, like, walked out.
731
00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:20,209
[hip-hop music]
732
00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:23,343
One of the three venues we
went to that first night was,
733
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,998
like, a 16-year-old's
birthday party.
734
00:30:26,172 --> 00:30:28,174
You know, it was
basically Beatlemania.
735
00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:31,394
They were grabbing at him,
pulling at his shirt.
736
00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,570
The police were there
to, like, make sure
737
00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:35,224
that the limo got in and out.
738
00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:36,791
There were girls, like,
putting their boobs
739
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,532
on the glass of the car.
740
00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:40,534
I remember him saying,
like, you're pretty cute.
741
00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:43,842
I love you too,
but I'm not going to jail.
742
00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:46,235
The night went from,
you know, then until
743
00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:47,976
about 4:00 or 5:00
in the morning.
744
00:30:48,107 --> 00:30:49,238
And for the whole time,
745
00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:50,849
he didn't speak
a word to me at all.
746
00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:53,242
♪ ♪
747
00:30:53,373 --> 00:30:57,029
- So I've got my little
circle of family and friends,
748
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,031
people that I've basically
grown up with,
749
00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:00,380
because I feel like,
at this point,
750
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,078
anybody that I meet after
this only knows me
751
00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:06,560
for Eminem or Slim Shady
and doesn't know Marshall.
752
00:31:06,647 --> 00:31:08,605
So that's why I keep
those friends around,
753
00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:10,259
'cause I know that
those are the people that
754
00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:13,001
really care about me for me.
755
00:31:13,088 --> 00:31:15,134
- I think it was
a defense against, like,
756
00:31:15,221 --> 00:31:17,658
the attention, the fame.
Just survival.
757
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,007
Just trying to, like,
take it in
758
00:31:19,138 --> 00:31:20,530
and figure out what
the hell's happening,
759
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:21,880
'cause it happened so fast.
760
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:24,404
[plane whooshing]
761
00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:26,014
♪ ♪
762
00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:27,886
- So you show it to Eminem?
- Oh, yeah.
763
00:31:28,016 --> 00:31:28,930
- Yeah?
- Yes.
764
00:31:29,017 --> 00:31:30,366
- Hello, Eminem.
[laughter]
765
00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,804
[cheering]
766
00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,284
[chainsaw buzzing]
767
00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:38,287
- It's really an eye-opener
to see how crazy
768
00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,115
some people do get
for Eminem.
769
00:31:40,246 --> 00:31:42,596
I travel the world for him.
770
00:31:42,726 --> 00:31:44,598
[cheering]
771
00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:46,252
- Nobody here.
772
00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:47,862
Just me and the camera.
773
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,690
- Oh, no.
774
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:52,911
- Well, one of these have
to be the jet for the day.
775
00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:54,695
Want that one?
Or even that one.
776
00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:56,871
- Paul's telling me to put on
my fucking seat belt,
777
00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:59,439
like if the plane crashes,
it's gonna help.
778
00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:03,443
- I've seen Eminem in concert
about 30-something times.
779
00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,314
15 different cities
780
00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,360
in six, seven
different countries.
781
00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:09,101
- I'm a parrot.
782
00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:11,625
I'm an embarrassed parrot
in Paris.
783
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,148
- Oh, Eminem!
- Eminem!
784
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,063
- Eminem!
785
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:18,284
- I made this costume
because I wanted to wear
786
00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:21,983
something very eye-catching.
787
00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:24,638
They actually put me
on camera
788
00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:26,292
throughout the stadium,
789
00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,598
and some random man
put me on his shoulders
790
00:32:28,729 --> 00:32:30,905
to, like, showcase it.
791
00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:33,603
I was hoping, of course,
he's gonna see my costume,
792
00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:35,083
and he's gonna think
it's so cool,
793
00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,259
and he's gonna invite me
on stage and meet me.
794
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:39,087
- I was asking Paul today,
I was like, uh,
795
00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:40,654
why do people want
to talk to me?
796
00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,786
And he was like,
you rap well,
797
00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:44,701
you say a lot
of personal shit,
798
00:32:44,788 --> 00:32:45,920
and your music
and your life is like
799
00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:48,488
the fucking
"Jerry Springer Show."
800
00:32:48,618 --> 00:32:49,793
- "I didn't really start
doing drugs
801
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,534
"until I rapped about them.
802
00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,710
"When I was on tour
rapping about Vicodin
803
00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:55,277
"or mushrooms or ecstasy,
804
00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:57,236
people started throwing
that shit my way."
805
00:32:57,323 --> 00:32:58,498
- "I couldn't believe
the effect
806
00:32:58,585 --> 00:33:00,152
"my lyrics had on people.
807
00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,067
They thought we were
literally drug addicts..."
808
00:33:02,197 --> 00:33:03,590
- "And that they could
get backstage
809
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,678
"and bring us substances.
810
00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:06,027
"It was wild.
811
00:33:06,114 --> 00:33:07,942
Welcome to rock and roll."
812
00:33:08,073 --> 00:33:11,119
[cheering, chanting]
813
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,296
- Yo, they were so loud,
we couldn't rap
814
00:33:14,427 --> 00:33:15,776
for, like, 10 minutes.
815
00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:16,907
- Just seeing, like,
how he was living
816
00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:18,474
and the breakneck pace,
817
00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,173
instant stardom,
instant fandom,
818
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,348
and people starting
to get obsessed.
819
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:24,611
- What the fuck?
820
00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:25,960
- I was just rooting
for him to, like--
821
00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:27,048
to hang on
for the rocket ride.
822
00:33:27,135 --> 00:33:28,658
- England, we're out of here.
823
00:33:28,745 --> 00:33:30,356
We love you.
Thank you.
824
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:32,053
Peace.
825
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,145
- Were you prepared
for how much the fans
826
00:33:37,276 --> 00:33:39,017
would connect with you?
827
00:33:39,191 --> 00:33:44,370
- What I put out was
very much, um,
828
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,851
raw and, like, just real,
829
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,638
as far as situations
in my life and how I came up
830
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:52,987
and shit like that.
831
00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:56,338
And I think that
that's maybe one
832
00:33:56,425 --> 00:34:00,821
of the things that
made some people
833
00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:02,475
feel like they could relate.
834
00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:06,044
It was a weird, strange
kind of adjustment,
835
00:34:06,174 --> 00:34:10,570
and my personality wasn't
well-equipped to handle that.
836
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:11,527
[pulsating music]
837
00:34:11,658 --> 00:34:13,007
- "FANatic."
838
00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:14,748
- I've never gotten
into any music
839
00:34:14,835 --> 00:34:16,619
like I've gotten
into Eminem's lyrics.
840
00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:20,232
Like, once I started listening
to him, I couldn't stop.
841
00:34:20,362 --> 00:34:22,364
We are at the restaurant
that Eminem worked at
842
00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:24,018
before he made it big.
843
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:26,107
- Around the time Marshall's
really starting to blow up,
844
00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:27,848
there's a million channels.
845
00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:29,328
You know, the Internet
starts picking up.
846
00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:31,286
- This is where Eminem
spent most of his time.
847
00:34:31,417 --> 00:34:32,635
- [gasps] This is
the phone Eminem touched.
848
00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,899
- Content is just at
its infancy of becoming king.
849
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,163
From a media standpoint,
you are really
850
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,339
now into the minutia
of what it takes
851
00:34:40,469 --> 00:34:42,123
to hold on to an audience.
852
00:34:42,254 --> 00:34:44,125
And what that came down to
for us, really,
853
00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:47,128
was like, the fan experience,
we gotta go even more.
854
00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:48,608
- What was your best
subject in school?
855
00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,436
- Oh, my God, none.
856
00:34:50,566 --> 00:34:52,264
Maybe English.
I was all right at English.
857
00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:53,569
Everything else
I was horrible at.
858
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:55,354
I was the worst.
859
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,747
- Fans just had such
an insatiable appetite
860
00:34:57,834 --> 00:34:59,271
for more and more access
861
00:34:59,445 --> 00:35:00,794
to the artists
that they loved.
862
00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:02,448
I mean, now you're really
opening the floodgates
863
00:35:02,578 --> 00:35:03,840
for people who see that
864
00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:05,146
to live vicariously
through that moment
865
00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:06,930
and go, "Well,
that's all it takes.
866
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,889
"I'm just going to jump
on a plane to Detroit
867
00:35:09,063 --> 00:35:11,109
"and go find 8 Mile
and walk around,
868
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,154
"and I can just have
the experience
869
00:35:13,285 --> 00:35:14,199
that they just showed me."
870
00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:16,244
- I was in my early 20s
871
00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:18,464
when I started working
at Gilbert's.
872
00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:20,640
And I knew Eminem worked
there, obviously,
873
00:35:20,727 --> 00:35:23,773
so I was like, fuck it, I'll
go work where Eminem worked.
874
00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:25,471
Like, I always wanted to,
875
00:35:25,645 --> 00:35:28,213
so one more thing
closer to Eminem.
876
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,737
And I stayed
at that bitch for--
877
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,391
for, like, 10 years,
878
00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:34,219
'cause I'm like,
he's going to come in.
879
00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:37,091
- That's crazy.
880
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,093
The whole neighborhood's
gone now.
881
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,488
Me and Proof used to climb
this tree all the time.
882
00:35:42,618 --> 00:35:44,664
And we would sit
up in the tree,
883
00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:46,056
and he would always climb
higher than me
884
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:47,449
'cause he wasn't
afraid of heights.
885
00:35:47,536 --> 00:35:48,668
I was.
886
00:35:48,755 --> 00:35:51,410
Um, and we would
just sit there
887
00:35:51,584 --> 00:35:53,803
and talk about, like,
what we was going to do
888
00:35:53,934 --> 00:35:55,675
once we made it as rappers.
889
00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:58,068
[dog barking]
890
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:01,071
We shot here when
the house had been condemned,
891
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,682
but it wasn't burnt down yet.
892
00:36:02,812 --> 00:36:04,727
And, like, I don't know
if you've ever
893
00:36:04,858 --> 00:36:07,730
been to, like, a house,
go back when you were a kid--
894
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:10,342
everything seems smaller.
895
00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:13,127
Bro, that motherfucker
was like, here to here,
896
00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:14,868
you could touch
the living room walls.
897
00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:16,522
We tried to buy it,
and the city
898
00:36:16,652 --> 00:36:17,914
had already condemned it.
899
00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:21,962
So they wouldn't
sell it to us.
900
00:36:22,092 --> 00:36:24,051
- Did it ever occur to you
that fans would
901
00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:26,662
come here and make
a pilgrimage?
902
00:36:26,749 --> 00:36:29,012
- It's cool that people care,
903
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:34,235
but it's also weird,
still, 'cause you're like,
904
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,150
but it's me,
you know what I'm saying?
905
00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:38,370
Like, why?
906
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,068
It's really not
that big of a deal.
907
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,331
- When Em was blowing up,
908
00:36:43,462 --> 00:36:46,552
there was lots of kids
with white T-shirts
909
00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:48,206
and bleach blonde hair.
910
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,599
But again, this might be
by Em's own doing.
911
00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:53,733
I mean, the videos,
the imagery that he put out,
912
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,693
it's this million-white-boy
army behind me, you know?
913
00:36:57,867 --> 00:36:59,217
Like, I am you.
914
00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:00,305
[Eminem's
"The Real Slim Shady"]
915
00:37:00,392 --> 00:37:03,612
- ♪ May I have
your attention, please ♪
916
00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:07,486
♪ Will the real Slim Shady
please stand up ♪
917
00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:11,141
♪ I repeat, will the real
Slim Shady please stand up ♪
918
00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:13,622
♪ ♪
919
00:37:13,709 --> 00:37:17,931
- I was at the MTV Awards
when Marshall came out
920
00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:19,628
and that gang
of fucking dudes
921
00:37:19,759 --> 00:37:21,500
followed him up on stage.
922
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,458
Everyone around me
kind of fucking locked in,
923
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:24,894
like, what is--
what's going on right now?
924
00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:26,156
Who the fuck is that guy?
925
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,594
It was hands-down like, yeah.
926
00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:30,900
Like, that dude right there,
he's--he's--
927
00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:33,599
he's fucking--
he's cooler than me.
928
00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,383
- When Eminem came
on the scene
929
00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:38,081
and when they seen
the bleach blonde hair,
930
00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,562
it kind of infected
the whole world.
931
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:43,304
- So many kids were dyeing
their hair yellow,
932
00:37:43,435 --> 00:37:44,958
dressing in, you know,
baggy clothes.
933
00:37:45,088 --> 00:37:46,699
And I saw it.
934
00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,614
So, you know, I had guy
friends that were like, oh,
935
00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:50,093
I'm Slim Shady, you know?
936
00:37:50,224 --> 00:37:51,181
And I'm just like,
no, you're not.
937
00:37:54,054 --> 00:37:55,795
- It was who they were now.
938
00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:57,362
It wasn't like, hey, I'm going
to go down to Times Square.
939
00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,059
I'm gonna--you know,
I'm gonna pay homage
940
00:37:59,189 --> 00:38:00,016
to Em and, you know,
do my thing.
941
00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:01,888
It was like, I'm becoming him.
942
00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,903
Nine years old, you know?
943
00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:19,427
One day I wanted to--
to make my hair blonde.
944
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,593
You feel like a real Shady.
945
00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,428
Every people who look
at you, they--
946
00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:08,476
they know what is about,
you know, Shady, man.
947
00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:14,743
- Eminem is absolutely like
an unwilling cult leader.
948
00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:18,965
He's someone who did not
want to take up that position
949
00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:22,272
but has been,
to no fault of his own,
950
00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:24,144
kind of thrust into it.
951
00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:25,754
- Eminem,
ladies and gentlemen.
952
00:39:25,928 --> 00:39:30,063
[cheering]
953
00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:31,586
Big day.
- Right.
954
00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:32,718
- New album is out.
- A really big day.
955
00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:33,893
- Yeah.
- Really big day.
956
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,285
- "Mathers LP" is out.
957
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,765
Now, that's your real name.
958
00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:37,723
Is, uh--does that mean...
- It's my real name.
959
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:38,941
- That this is sort of
more of, like,
960
00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,856
reflective of who you are?
Or, uh--
961
00:39:40,987 --> 00:39:42,641
- I think so.
962
00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:44,947
I think I got kind of personal
on this album,
963
00:39:45,078 --> 00:39:46,688
and just basically
I just wanted
964
00:39:46,819 --> 00:39:48,516
to let people know that
this is--this is the real me.
965
00:39:48,647 --> 00:39:50,431
This is all jokes aside,
you know what I'm saying?
966
00:39:50,605 --> 00:39:52,128
There's a lot of songs
on the album that
967
00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:53,695
are like that, that
are like, you know,
968
00:39:53,782 --> 00:39:54,827
more serious than
the first album.
969
00:39:54,914 --> 00:39:56,568
- Right.
970
00:39:56,655 --> 00:39:57,264
Actually, we're listening
to it right now,
971
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:58,613
a track called "Stan."
972
00:39:58,744 --> 00:39:59,701
It's the third track
on the album.
973
00:39:59,832 --> 00:40:00,659
What's--what's all this about?
974
00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:02,269
Explain this to me.
975
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,314
- Um, basically,
it's just about crazy fan mail
976
00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:06,229
that I get from people.
977
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,058
And it's about, like,
a kid who is really sick,
978
00:40:09,145 --> 00:40:10,669
you know what I'm saying?
979
00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:12,932
And--and takes everything
that I say literally.
980
00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:15,500
What inspired me
to write "Stan" first
981
00:40:15,587 --> 00:40:18,111
was when I got the beat
982
00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:19,939
and it had
the Dido sample in it.
983
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:22,158
"But your picture
on my wall reminds me
984
00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:23,377
that it's not so bad."
985
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,249
I felt like, that is--
986
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,949
that line right there,
that's LL Cool J to me.
987
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,387
Like, LL Cool J was
one of the rappers
988
00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:36,564
who helped get me through
so much childhood shit.
989
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,479
I kept thinking,
like, oh, my God,
990
00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:41,090
am I LL Cool J
to somebody else?
991
00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:42,744
Instantly, I was like,
yo, this has
992
00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:44,616
got to be about,
like, an obsessed fan
993
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:48,402
who's taking my shit
too literal, and slow down.
994
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,448
I'm not--I'm just Marshall.
995
00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:51,753
[thunder rumbling,
rain pattering]
996
00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:55,061
Like, I'm not
your fucking savior.
997
00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:58,804
[thunder crashes]
998
00:40:58,978 --> 00:41:03,243
♪
999
00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:06,725
[thunder rumbling, crashing]
1000
00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:17,083
- Let me in!
1001
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:18,824
[knocking]
1002
00:41:18,954 --> 00:41:20,826
- What?
1003
00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,436
- Stanley, what are you
doing to yourself?
1004
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:24,612
- What, the hair?
You don't like it?
1005
00:41:24,743 --> 00:41:26,135
- Stanley!
- You like it?
1006
00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:27,789
- Stanley!
Don't--
1007
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,184
- Don't call me that, OK?
1008
00:41:31,271 --> 00:41:32,359
Don't call me that.
1009
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:33,752
- Don't you think
you're taking this too far?
1010
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:34,883
Stanley.
- Here.
1011
00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:36,319
- Stanley!
1012
00:41:36,406 --> 00:41:37,451
I was listening to the lyrics.
1013
00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:38,931
I was just like,
this is amazing.
1014
00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:40,628
I mean, I just think
his lyrics on that song
1015
00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:42,282
are absolutely brilliant,
you know?
1016
00:41:42,456 --> 00:41:45,198
He's, to me,
the ultimate storyteller.
1017
00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:46,765
[Eminem's "Stan"]
1018
00:41:46,852 --> 00:41:49,376
♪ And I can't see at all ♪
1019
00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:52,901
♪ Even if I could,
it'd all be gray ♪
1020
00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:55,295
♪ But your picture
on my wall ♪
1021
00:41:55,469 --> 00:41:59,038
♪ It reminds me
that it's not so bad ♪
1022
00:41:59,168 --> 00:42:01,127
♪ It's not so bad ♪
1023
00:42:01,214 --> 00:42:03,651
- ♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you,
but you still ain't calling ♪
1024
00:42:03,738 --> 00:42:05,392
♪ I left my cell, my pager,
and my home phone ♪
1025
00:42:05,479 --> 00:42:06,654
♪ At the bottom ♪
1026
00:42:06,828 --> 00:42:08,308
♪ I sent two letters
back in autumn ♪
1027
00:42:08,438 --> 00:42:09,483
♪ You must not have got 'em ♪
1028
00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:11,006
♪ There probably was
a problem ♪
1029
00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:12,530
♪ At the post office
or something ♪
1030
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:13,835
♪ Sometimes
I scribble addresses ♪
1031
00:42:13,922 --> 00:42:15,271
♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪
1032
00:42:15,402 --> 00:42:17,360
♪ But anyways, fuck it,
what's been up, man ♪
1033
00:42:17,447 --> 00:42:18,623
♪ How's your daughter ♪
1034
00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:19,841
♪ My girlfriend's
pregnant too ♪
1035
00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,408
♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪
1036
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,279
♪ If I have a daughter,
guess what I'ma call her ♪
1037
00:42:23,366 --> 00:42:25,020
♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪
1038
00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:27,327
♪ I read about your
Uncle Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪
1039
00:42:27,501 --> 00:42:29,198
♪ I had a friend kill himself
over some bitch ♪
1040
00:42:29,285 --> 00:42:30,939
♪ Who didn't want him ♪
1041
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:32,506
♪ I know you probably
hear this every day ♪
1042
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,421
♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪
1043
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:36,902
♪ I even got the underground
shit that you did with Skam ♪
1044
00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:38,294
♪ I got a room full
of your posters ♪
1045
00:42:38,468 --> 00:42:39,861
♪ And your pictures, man ♪
1046
00:42:39,992 --> 00:42:41,471
♪ I like the shit you did
with Rawkus too ♪
1047
00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:43,038
♪ That shit was phat ♪
1048
00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:44,736
♪ Anyways, I hope
you get this, man ♪
1049
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:46,346
♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪
1050
00:42:46,476 --> 00:42:48,000
♪ Truly yours,
your biggest fan ♪
1051
00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:49,349
♪ This is Stan ♪
1052
00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:52,657
- ♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1053
00:42:52,787 --> 00:42:54,528
- I used to write him
all the time.
1054
00:42:54,702 --> 00:42:56,617
I was like, hi,
I'm your biggest fan.
1055
00:42:56,704 --> 00:42:58,750
I love you so much.
1056
00:42:58,924 --> 00:43:01,404
- [laughs]
When I was like, 12, yeah.
1057
00:43:01,535 --> 00:43:02,797
Yeah, I wrote him a letter.
1058
00:43:02,928 --> 00:43:05,974
And then later on,
I would write and be like,
1059
00:43:06,105 --> 00:43:08,020
your music is saving my life.
1060
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:09,978
Thank you for everything.
1061
00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:12,633
- I actually took a few hours
writing all the things
1062
00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:17,159
I wanted to, but I thought
it was, I don't know,
1063
00:43:17,333 --> 00:43:19,118
like too much like "Stan."
1064
00:43:19,205 --> 00:43:22,425
- I wrote one email
about 10 years ago.
1065
00:43:22,512 --> 00:43:23,775
I haven't heard nothing back,
1066
00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:25,341
but I'm still got
my fingers crossed.
1067
00:43:25,428 --> 00:43:27,343
It's only been 10 years.
We good.
1068
00:43:27,474 --> 00:43:29,345
- ♪ Dear Slim, you still ain't
called or wrote ♪
1069
00:43:29,476 --> 00:43:30,346
♪ I hope you have a chance ♪
1070
00:43:30,477 --> 00:43:31,957
♪ I ain't mad ♪
1071
00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:33,698
♪ I just think it's fucked up
you don't answer fans ♪
1072
00:43:33,785 --> 00:43:35,177
♪ If you didn't want
to talk to me ♪
1073
00:43:35,308 --> 00:43:37,179
♪ Outside the concert,
you didn't have to ♪
1074
00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:39,355
♪ But you could have signed
an autograph for Matthew ♪
1075
00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:40,443
♪ That's my little brother,
man ♪
1076
00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:42,054
♪ He's only six years old ♪
1077
00:43:42,184 --> 00:43:43,838
♪ We waited in
the blistering cold for you ♪
1078
00:43:43,969 --> 00:43:45,753
♪ For four hours
and you just said no ♪
1079
00:43:45,927 --> 00:43:47,146
♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪
1080
00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:48,843
♪ You're like
his fucking idol ♪
1081
00:43:49,017 --> 00:43:49,888
♪ He wants to be
just like you, man ♪
1082
00:43:49,975 --> 00:43:51,585
♪ He likes you
more than I do ♪
1083
00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:55,807
- Stan, he's a really, really,
really hardcore fan of Eminem,
1084
00:43:55,937 --> 00:43:57,591
and he believes he's in, like,
1085
00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:00,986
a parasocial relationship
with Eminem.
1086
00:44:01,116 --> 00:44:04,250
- Parasocial relationship
is a one-way
1087
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:07,732
mediated relationship where
it's like, there is Eminem.
1088
00:44:07,862 --> 00:44:09,429
He's on stage performing.
1089
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:10,996
He's in music videos.
1090
00:44:11,083 --> 00:44:14,086
And you start to feel
like you know this person.
1091
00:44:14,173 --> 00:44:16,001
- ♪ Bad ♪
1092
00:44:16,131 --> 00:44:18,786
- Over time,
parasocial relationships,
1093
00:44:18,873 --> 00:44:22,616
they increase
in psychological intensity.
1094
00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:25,358
They can develop into
what's called identification.
1095
00:44:25,488 --> 00:44:27,969
You become so absorbed,
1096
00:44:28,056 --> 00:44:31,016
you start to take on
his attitudes
1097
00:44:31,146 --> 00:44:32,713
and beliefs and behaviors.
1098
00:44:32,887 --> 00:44:34,715
- ♪ I can relate to what
you're saying in your songs ♪
1099
00:44:34,802 --> 00:44:36,151
♪ So when I have
a shitty day ♪
1100
00:44:36,238 --> 00:44:37,762
♪ I drift away
and put 'em on ♪
1101
00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:39,067
♪ Because I don't ♪
1102
00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:41,461
- After that you get to
what's called worship--
1103
00:44:41,548 --> 00:44:43,811
- ♪ I even got a tattoo of
your name across the chest ♪
1104
00:44:43,942 --> 00:44:45,813
- Is when you treat
the media persona
1105
00:44:45,944 --> 00:44:47,597
like a godlike figure.
1106
00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:49,643
It is the less healthy place
1107
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:51,166
you want to be
on the spectrum.
1108
00:44:51,253 --> 00:44:53,038
- ♪ See, everything
you say is real ♪
1109
00:44:53,125 --> 00:44:54,822
♪ And I respect you
'cause you tell it ♪
1110
00:44:54,909 --> 00:44:57,564
♪ My girlfriend's jealous
'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪
1111
00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:58,652
- I mean, I could relate.
1112
00:44:58,826 --> 00:45:00,306
I was like,
yeah, that happens.
1113
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,700
Really awesome fans
that can get,
1114
00:45:02,830 --> 00:45:04,832
you know--you're like
their best friend,
1115
00:45:05,006 --> 00:45:06,312
and you don't even know it.
1116
00:45:06,486 --> 00:45:07,617
- ♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪
1117
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:09,619
♪ PS, we should
be together too ♪
1118
00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:12,622
- ♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1119
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,668
- The connotations
from the song
1120
00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:18,063
are somebody that
is a crazy fan.
1121
00:45:18,193 --> 00:45:20,630
It's probably how
a lot of people see me,
1122
00:45:20,761 --> 00:45:23,068
I would imagine.
1123
00:45:23,198 --> 00:45:25,853
- ♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good
to Call or Write My Fans ♪
1124
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:28,987
♪ This will be the last
package I ever send your ass ♪
1125
00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,466
♪ It's been six months
and still no word ♪
1126
00:45:30,597 --> 00:45:31,816
♪ I don't deserve it ♪
1127
00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:33,687
♪ I know you got
my last two letters ♪
1128
00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:35,123
♪ I wrote the addresses
on 'em perfect ♪
1129
00:45:35,254 --> 00:45:36,864
- Reaching out, reaching out,
and no answer.
1130
00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:41,086
I could see how that
could affect someone.
1131
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:43,088
- ♪ Hey, Slim,
I drank a fifth of vodka ♪
1132
00:45:43,218 --> 00:45:44,916
♪ You dare me to drive ♪
1133
00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:45,786
♪ You know that song
by Phil Collins ♪
1134
00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:47,048
- That's extreme.
1135
00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:49,834
But then at the same time,
I was so someone
1136
00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:51,749
that was like,
well, why isn't one of my--
1137
00:45:51,879 --> 00:45:53,359
why isn't it one
of my letters he's reading?
1138
00:45:53,533 --> 00:45:54,752
- ♪ That's kinda how this is ♪
1139
00:45:54,926 --> 00:45:55,840
♪ You could have rescued me
from drowning ♪
1140
00:45:55,927 --> 00:45:57,842
- It was one of those
moments where
1141
00:45:57,972 --> 00:46:00,540
I had to look in the mirror
and be like, wow,
1142
00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:02,498
am I one of these crazy stans?
1143
00:46:02,585 --> 00:46:03,935
- ♪ Well, gotta go ♪
1144
00:46:04,065 --> 00:46:05,066
♪ I'm almost
at the bridge now ♪
1145
00:46:05,197 --> 00:46:06,546
♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪
1146
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,461
♪ How am I supposed
to send this shit out ♪
1147
00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:11,246
[tires screeching, screaming]
1148
00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:22,040
- I was shocked.
1149
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,173
I mean, my first reaction was,
did this actually happen?
1150
00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:27,045
- I don't think
he's a real person,
1151
00:46:27,132 --> 00:46:29,395
but it's definitely
possible that there's
1152
00:46:29,525 --> 00:46:31,049
somebody out there like that.
1153
00:46:31,136 --> 00:46:33,921
[somber music]
1154
00:46:34,095 --> 00:46:40,232
♪
1155
00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,016
- I think there are people
out there that have
1156
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:46,978
that type of mental obsession
over another person,
1157
00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:49,850
and I believe that it does
come from a real place.
1158
00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:52,548
Whether it is
exaggerated or not
1159
00:46:52,635 --> 00:46:54,115
is all depending
on the creator.
1160
00:46:54,246 --> 00:46:59,904
♪ ♪
1161
00:47:00,034 --> 00:47:03,821
But I believe it is
coming from a real place.
1162
00:47:03,995 --> 00:47:08,347
- If it wasn't a real person
who actually did do that...
1163
00:47:08,477 --> 00:47:12,830
♪ ♪
1164
00:47:13,004 --> 00:47:17,399
It's a message
to all of his fame.
1165
00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:20,272
[engine rumbling]
1166
00:47:23,144 --> 00:47:24,885
[vehicle rumbles]
1167
00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:28,367
- Hi.
1168
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:42,729
But the word "Stan"
changed with the time.
1169
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:47,560
Stan, in 2024, it's being
crazy of something.
1170
00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:50,693
Like, very, very crazy.
1171
00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:52,565
Like, really, really crazy.
1172
00:48:07,797 --> 00:48:09,495
I never killed my wife.
1173
00:48:11,366 --> 00:48:13,629
I've never been
crazy like him.
1174
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:17,982
I don't have a wife, by
the way, but I'm just saying.
1175
00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:27,165
Well, so--
1176
00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,210
OK, so you guys
think this about me.
1177
00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:30,646
That's fine.
1178
00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:35,129
Not because I don't want to,
1179
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:39,220
but because
it was too big to me.
1180
00:48:39,307 --> 00:48:42,963
I had and I still have
a dream,
1181
00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:47,185
is to travel
and discover Detroit.
1182
00:48:47,315 --> 00:48:53,321
Because I grew up with Eminem,
so I wanted to--
1183
00:48:53,452 --> 00:48:57,630
to know and to understand
where Eminem came from.
1184
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,592
So my family thought that
1185
00:49:03,723 --> 00:49:05,551
that was all bullshit,
1186
00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:08,075
that I spent my money
for nothing.
1187
00:49:08,162 --> 00:49:10,338
But you know, when you're
passionate about something,
1188
00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:13,776
just do your dream.
1189
00:49:13,863 --> 00:49:15,648
That's it.
1190
00:49:15,735 --> 00:49:18,085
[indistinct chatter]
1191
00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,294
[Eminem's "Rap God"]
1192
00:49:53,425 --> 00:49:56,167
- ♪ I'm beginning to feel
like a rap god, rap god ♪
1193
00:50:09,484 --> 00:50:11,095
- How do you know
Eminem's not here?
1194
00:50:22,323 --> 00:50:25,109
[playing tune on keyboard]
1195
00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:51,613
Because I was back in Paris
1196
00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:53,528
after a beautiful week
in Detroit.
1197
00:50:53,702 --> 00:50:55,313
I cried.
1198
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,550
♪ ♪
1199
00:51:15,637 --> 00:51:19,119
- If "Stan" sort of showed
mainstream people
1200
00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:22,340
who didn't understand how
powerful a rap song could be,
1201
00:51:22,427 --> 00:51:23,732
if "Stan" did that to them...
1202
00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:25,778
[cheers and applause]
1203
00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:28,041
[pensive music]
1204
00:51:28,172 --> 00:51:31,958
Then "8 Mile" did that on
a much more mainstream scale
1205
00:51:32,045 --> 00:51:34,439
across all swaths of culture.
1206
00:51:34,613 --> 00:51:39,835
♪
1207
00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,141
[banging]
1208
00:51:41,228 --> 00:51:43,622
He was a global phenomenon.
1209
00:51:43,752 --> 00:51:44,971
- How are you feeling?
1210
00:51:45,058 --> 00:51:47,234
- I feel good.
- You feel good?
1211
00:51:47,365 --> 00:51:48,235
- Yeah.
1212
00:51:48,366 --> 00:51:50,759
[tense music]
1213
00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:52,761
- All right, next up
is my boy Bunny Rabbit.
1214
00:51:52,848 --> 00:51:54,241
[crowd booing]
1215
00:51:54,415 --> 00:51:56,635
He's a genius, man,
a motherfucking genius.
1216
00:51:56,722 --> 00:51:57,592
DJ, kick it.
1217
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,291
[scratching record]
1218
00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:02,119
all: Choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke,
1219
00:52:02,249 --> 00:52:04,686
choke, choke, choke, choke!
1220
00:52:04,817 --> 00:52:07,036
- I believe what they did
with "8 Mile" was amazing,
1221
00:52:07,211 --> 00:52:08,951
the way that
they loosely based
1222
00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:12,259
a lot of things on his life.
1223
00:52:12,346 --> 00:52:14,043
And it wasn't full
full-fledged,
1224
00:52:14,174 --> 00:52:16,220
this is what happened, but--
1225
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:18,744
so it keeps me excited
because my imagination
1226
00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:20,702
starts going like, all right,
so what was real?
1227
00:52:20,833 --> 00:52:21,703
What wasn't real?
1228
00:52:21,834 --> 00:52:23,705
Is that story true or not?
1229
00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:25,011
Did that really happen when
they were in the parking lot
1230
00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:27,187
in the shelter?
1231
00:52:27,318 --> 00:52:29,929
- Yo, that's like one of
the best movies of all time,
1232
00:52:30,059 --> 00:52:32,453
if you're a rapper, 'cause
it wasn't over the top.
1233
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:34,063
It seemed like
real-world shit,
1234
00:52:34,194 --> 00:52:36,153
going through it
with his mom.
1235
00:52:36,283 --> 00:52:37,023
- What are you doing
with your life
1236
00:52:37,154 --> 00:52:39,112
that's so great, Rabbit?
1237
00:52:39,243 --> 00:52:40,766
- Freestyling
in the car with Proof.
1238
00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:43,334
- ♪ A 1928 Delta ♪
1239
00:52:43,421 --> 00:52:45,858
♪ This shit won't even
get me to the shelter ♪
1240
00:52:45,945 --> 00:52:46,772
- Breaking up with
his girlfriend,
1241
00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:48,034
all this extra shit.
1242
00:52:48,121 --> 00:52:48,991
Like, that was
real-world shit.
1243
00:52:49,078 --> 00:52:50,906
- [blows raspberry]
1244
00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:54,345
- Him showing a glimpse
into what he went through
1245
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,609
right before he got famous,
it showed the world
1246
00:52:57,739 --> 00:53:01,613
that it's like, hey,
I come from this background,
1247
00:53:01,743 --> 00:53:03,441
but it doesn't define me.
1248
00:53:03,571 --> 00:53:05,356
- [grunts]
1249
00:53:05,486 --> 00:53:08,576
- It is who I am, but I am
so much more than that.
1250
00:53:08,707 --> 00:53:10,361
- In my mind, we're connected.
1251
00:53:10,535 --> 00:53:12,276
In one way or another,
in this universe,
1252
00:53:12,363 --> 00:53:13,451
there's a connection.
1253
00:53:13,538 --> 00:53:15,148
Yo, you--you're me.
1254
00:53:15,322 --> 00:53:16,497
You're a regular dude.
1255
00:53:16,584 --> 00:53:18,673
This is not lights,
camera, action.
1256
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,111
This is Marshall Mathers,
and I followed the story.
1257
00:53:22,286 --> 00:53:24,375
And most parts,
I lived the story.
1258
00:53:24,462 --> 00:53:27,029
- It enhanced my fandom
of him because
1259
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:29,945
I just saw
how relatable he was.
1260
00:53:30,076 --> 00:53:32,426
And I didn't have, like,
a male figure in my family
1261
00:53:32,557 --> 00:53:35,734
or, you know, in my household
to look up to,
1262
00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:38,954
and I really looked up to him.
1263
00:53:39,041 --> 00:53:43,524
- "8 Mile" did the most to
explain Eminem to the world.
1264
00:53:43,611 --> 00:53:46,571
There were all these critics
who were anti-Eminem.
1265
00:53:46,658 --> 00:53:48,268
Maureen Dowd, one of them
at "The New York Times,"
1266
00:53:48,442 --> 00:53:49,835
she had a bunch
of columns, you know,
1267
00:53:50,009 --> 00:53:52,141
saying he was a misogynist
and all the other things
1268
00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:53,491
that he was controversial for.
1269
00:53:53,578 --> 00:53:56,537
And then after "8 Mile,"
she had a column
1270
00:53:56,668 --> 00:53:59,932
about having a crush on him
and talking about him
1271
00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:01,194
with other soccer mommies
1272
00:54:01,368 --> 00:54:03,065
and listening to him
at the gym.
1273
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,372
It explains him
to a wider audience,
1274
00:54:05,546 --> 00:54:08,027
contextualizes him,
but it also
1275
00:54:08,157 --> 00:54:09,985
is myth-making, for sure.
1276
00:54:10,116 --> 00:54:12,074
And I think that
to the fans that
1277
00:54:12,205 --> 00:54:14,207
aren't able to separate
the man from the myth,
1278
00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:16,470
this might as well be
a documentary.
1279
00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:18,080
- My first guest
is a young man who is
1280
00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:20,518
on top of all of his games.
1281
00:54:20,692 --> 00:54:22,084
He's got the number-one
song in the country,
1282
00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:23,608
the number-one album
in the country,
1283
00:54:23,738 --> 00:54:26,132
and soon, the number-one
movie in the country.
1284
00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,308
Give it up for Eminem.
1285
00:54:28,395 --> 00:54:31,050
[cheering]
1286
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:33,879
And then it's such chaos out
there that unfortunately
1287
00:54:34,009 --> 00:54:36,011
we're going to have
to shut the shades,
1288
00:54:36,142 --> 00:54:38,405
but it's a real sight
to be seen.
1289
00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:40,407
In the history of MTV,
I have never
1290
00:54:40,581 --> 00:54:42,322
seen anything quite like it.
1291
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:43,454
- I remember being
in the theater
1292
00:54:43,584 --> 00:54:45,586
that first night watching
that, going, "Fuck, man.
1293
00:54:45,673 --> 00:54:48,023
"Now, that's an opening
weekend for a fucking guy
1294
00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:49,242
who's not a movie star."
1295
00:54:49,416 --> 00:54:52,898
He just became
a movie star like that.
1296
00:54:52,985 --> 00:54:54,160
- The movie is out.
1297
00:54:54,247 --> 00:54:55,770
How you feeling?
- Good.
1298
00:54:55,944 --> 00:54:57,163
- Yeah?
1299
00:54:57,294 --> 00:54:59,034
You're a little overwhelmed?
1300
00:54:59,121 --> 00:55:01,036
- A lot overwhelmed,
but, um...
1301
00:55:01,167 --> 00:55:03,952
[cheers and applause]
1302
00:55:06,781 --> 00:55:08,217
Proud too.
1303
00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:09,828
I'm proud too, you know?
- Yeah.
1304
00:55:09,915 --> 00:55:10,959
- I'm proud and I'm--
I'm happy.
1305
00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:12,352
I'm excited.
1306
00:55:12,439 --> 00:55:13,919
You know,
if it wasn't for these fans,
1307
00:55:14,049 --> 00:55:15,747
I wouldn't have got
to this level
1308
00:55:15,921 --> 00:55:19,054
to be enabled to do my own
movies and things like that,
1309
00:55:19,185 --> 00:55:21,840
and have this kind of power
and this kind of control,
1310
00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:23,145
and I'm loving it.
1311
00:55:23,232 --> 00:55:25,060
- Yo, let me ask you this--
1312
00:55:25,191 --> 00:55:27,672
- I was just looking up some
stuff about Eminem online,
1313
00:55:27,802 --> 00:55:30,501
and this girl was
talking about how
1314
00:55:30,631 --> 00:55:32,633
she apparently
was spending time
1315
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,287
with him
while he was on tour.
1316
00:55:34,418 --> 00:55:36,158
Like, some fan girl
he picked up.
1317
00:55:36,289 --> 00:55:39,597
And I thought at first that
that was real, so I'm like,
1318
00:55:39,727 --> 00:55:42,295
did somebody really put
that--like, that hap--
1319
00:55:42,426 --> 00:55:44,428
somebody put that out?
That's insane.
1320
00:55:44,515 --> 00:55:47,082
Then when I scrolled down
to the end,
1321
00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:49,084
it said fan fiction.
1322
00:55:49,215 --> 00:55:52,087
[discordant music]
1323
00:55:52,218 --> 00:55:54,786
♪ ♪
1324
00:55:54,916 --> 00:55:57,484
The next thing I knew,
that was all I was reading,
1325
00:55:57,571 --> 00:55:59,747
'cause it was
kind of addictive.
1326
00:55:59,878 --> 00:56:05,797
♪ ♪
1327
00:56:05,927 --> 00:56:08,713
And after, like, about three
or four months of reading it,
1328
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,325
I was like, why don't
I write one myself?
1329
00:56:14,283 --> 00:56:17,417
I just imagined what his
head space would be like.
1330
00:56:19,724 --> 00:56:21,421
It's very presumptuous
of me to say,
1331
00:56:21,508 --> 00:56:23,292
oh, I'm writing this
as Marshall,
1332
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,033
even though it literally says
Marshall's point of view
1333
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,470
when I write it.
1334
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,080
But you know,
it's 'cause it's fiction.
1335
00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,561
It's OK.
1336
00:56:30,735 --> 00:56:33,085
- Do you feel like
you have an understanding
1337
00:56:33,172 --> 00:56:35,479
of who Marshall actually is?
1338
00:56:35,566 --> 00:56:37,437
- It's kind of hard to tell
with Eminem
1339
00:56:37,524 --> 00:56:38,786
because he's like--
1340
00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:41,876
as much as he puts
personal shit in his songs,
1341
00:56:41,963 --> 00:56:44,270
he probably shows us only
what he wants us to see.
1342
00:56:44,357 --> 00:56:47,099
[upbeat music]
1343
00:56:47,273 --> 00:56:49,884
♪
1344
00:56:49,971 --> 00:56:51,016
- What's up, ladies?
1345
00:56:51,103 --> 00:56:53,758
[cheering]
1346
00:56:53,888 --> 00:56:55,760
I was sharing a lot...
1347
00:56:55,890 --> 00:56:57,152
Aw.
1348
00:56:57,283 --> 00:56:59,372
And made it like
a fucking open book.
1349
00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:00,939
And then sometimes
you want to close
1350
00:57:01,069 --> 00:57:03,202
that book back
a little bit because
1351
00:57:03,332 --> 00:57:05,465
did you share too much?
1352
00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:06,510
What's up? I'm Marshall,
and I'm gonna to punch you
1353
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,989
in the fucking throat.
1354
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,209
Do you have anything left
to keep to yourself?
1355
00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:11,515
I can't fucking work
like this.
1356
00:57:11,602 --> 00:57:12,951
You're stressing me out.
1357
00:57:13,038 --> 00:57:14,387
[door creaks]
1358
00:57:14,561 --> 00:57:16,171
- "Before I was famous,
everything
1359
00:57:16,302 --> 00:57:18,652
"was moving in slow motion.
1360
00:57:18,826 --> 00:57:20,915
"Now it seems like
somebody has pressed
1361
00:57:21,002 --> 00:57:22,743
"the fucking
fast forward button,
1362
00:57:22,874 --> 00:57:24,789
"and my life just seems
to be rushing by.
1363
00:57:24,963 --> 00:57:27,879
It sometimes feels
like a strange movie."
1364
00:57:28,009 --> 00:57:29,707
I couldn't imagine
how jarring it is
1365
00:57:29,837 --> 00:57:34,799
to go from being where
he started out in 8 Mile
1366
00:57:34,886 --> 00:57:38,846
to the level of fame
and success and wealth
1367
00:57:38,933 --> 00:57:42,807
and confinement that comes
along with celebrity.
1368
00:57:42,937 --> 00:57:43,938
Unreal.
1369
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:45,592
- Hey, Em.
1370
00:57:45,766 --> 00:57:46,941
- Don't--don't
come over here, man.
1371
00:57:47,028 --> 00:57:47,855
- Hey, Em.
1372
00:57:48,029 --> 00:57:48,900
- All right?
1373
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:50,684
- Hey, have a good concert.
1374
00:57:50,815 --> 00:57:53,252
- The way that he talks
about fame in his music,
1375
00:57:53,382 --> 00:57:55,254
it's like he wishes
that he could just
1376
00:57:55,384 --> 00:57:58,562
go and be a normal person
and go to the store
1377
00:57:58,692 --> 00:58:00,172
and things like that.
1378
00:58:00,259 --> 00:58:01,565
And I think it feels
like an invasion.
1379
00:58:01,695 --> 00:58:02,957
- Yo, what's up, Eminem?
1380
00:58:03,088 --> 00:58:04,176
So are you gonna--
1381
00:58:04,306 --> 00:58:05,917
- Good to see you, man.
1382
00:58:06,047 --> 00:58:08,354
- Every single day
I'm on the Eminem subreddit.
1383
00:58:08,441 --> 00:58:10,835
There is 800,000 stans.
1384
00:58:10,965 --> 00:58:13,707
We have guys from
India and Pakistan,
1385
00:58:13,838 --> 00:58:16,841
and like, just all--
all over the world.
1386
00:58:17,015 --> 00:58:19,931
We theorize, and we go
back and forth, and we try
1387
00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:22,629
and, uh, figure out what
goes on in his daily life.
1388
00:58:22,803 --> 00:58:24,675
Would be really cool
to know, like,
1389
00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:26,981
does he go to the gym
in the morning?
1390
00:58:27,068 --> 00:58:29,070
Or does he play basketball,
1391
00:58:29,244 --> 00:58:30,942
or is he in the studio
all day?
1392
00:58:31,072 --> 00:58:33,684
It feels incredibly
euphoric to me
1393
00:58:33,814 --> 00:58:37,035
because every post--
every post you go through
1394
00:58:37,122 --> 00:58:39,690
and every little thread
of information you get,
1395
00:58:39,777 --> 00:58:42,649
it gives you one step closer
to getting closer to the man.
1396
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:43,781
[crowd shouting]
1397
00:58:43,955 --> 00:58:44,782
- Em!
1398
00:58:44,912 --> 00:58:46,479
Em!
1399
00:58:46,566 --> 00:58:48,002
- You can look
at your smartphone now
1400
00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:49,221
and look at social media
and feel like
1401
00:58:49,308 --> 00:58:51,484
you have a direct line
to these people now.
1402
00:58:51,658 --> 00:58:54,487
There's definitely
a very thin line
1403
00:58:54,574 --> 00:58:56,010
when you go from
that follow button,
1404
00:58:56,097 --> 00:58:58,230
and then all of a sudden,
you're following someone.
1405
00:58:58,317 --> 00:59:01,668
Conversely,
I'm following them.
1406
00:59:01,755 --> 00:59:03,975
And it's like, I need
to know every new thing
1407
00:59:04,105 --> 00:59:06,847
about this person, and I
think that takes some people
1408
00:59:06,978 --> 00:59:09,502
down some dark roads.
1409
00:59:09,633 --> 00:59:12,113
- I'm sure it feels
like a prison,
1410
00:59:12,287 --> 00:59:15,682
where you can't go anywhere
without being recognized.
1411
00:59:15,856 --> 00:59:18,685
[ominous music]
1412
00:59:18,859 --> 00:59:25,649
♪
1413
00:59:30,915 --> 00:59:35,354
- There's definitely
a shift of him becoming
1414
00:59:35,484 --> 00:59:37,312
a little bit more withdrawn
1415
00:59:37,486 --> 00:59:39,532
from all of the fame.
1416
01:00:14,045 --> 01:00:16,221
[projector whirring]
1417
01:00:16,308 --> 01:00:18,397
- I live in that same area
where I do hear from people,
1418
01:00:18,527 --> 01:00:19,746
like, oh, my God,
Eminem moved here
1419
01:00:19,877 --> 01:00:20,878
and his address is this,
1420
01:00:20,965 --> 01:00:22,314
and oh,
I was trick-or-treating,
1421
01:00:22,444 --> 01:00:23,968
and I went to his house.
1422
01:00:24,142 --> 01:00:28,407
And it's like he can't
even live normally.
1423
01:00:30,278 --> 01:00:32,716
I've always been like, oh,
I want to meet him so bad.
1424
01:00:32,803 --> 01:00:34,369
It's almost like
a double-edged sword,
1425
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,154
because what would I do,
run up to him and be like,
1426
01:00:36,284 --> 01:00:37,634
oh, my God, Eminem?
1427
01:00:37,764 --> 01:00:40,245
And that's, like,
not what he wants.
1428
01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:42,073
But at the same time,
it's, like, all I want.
1429
01:00:42,203 --> 01:00:44,945
♪ ♪
1430
01:00:45,032 --> 01:00:46,773
- I remember one time
me and Hailie
1431
01:00:46,904 --> 01:00:48,601
went to the mall in LA.
1432
01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:51,778
It was the last time I went
to the mall as me, right?
1433
01:00:51,909 --> 01:00:55,173
Like, not fucking disguised.
1434
01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,916
And, um, every store
we went in, we come out,
1435
01:00:59,003 --> 01:01:00,700
and there's another--
a bigger crowd
1436
01:01:00,874 --> 01:01:03,660
and a bigger crowd
and a bigger crowd.
1437
01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:05,923
And it got to the point
where I was like--
1438
01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:07,968
I picked her up,
and I'm like, come on,
1439
01:01:08,099 --> 01:01:09,622
kiddo, time to go, right?
1440
01:01:09,796 --> 01:01:13,191
And I'm walking,
and as I'm walking faster
1441
01:01:13,321 --> 01:01:14,496
and faster and faster,
they're walking
1442
01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:15,802
faster and faster and faster.
1443
01:01:15,976 --> 01:01:17,325
And I literally felt
like I was being chased
1444
01:01:17,456 --> 01:01:19,545
out the fucking mall.
1445
01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:24,811
And that was one
of those moments
1446
01:01:24,898 --> 01:01:28,859
where I realized, like,
my life really has changed.
1447
01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:32,819
Like, I can't--I can't
do this anymore, right?
1448
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:35,343
'Cause I got
to protect my baby.
1449
01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:38,433
So that was a scary--
that was a scary moment,
1450
01:01:38,607 --> 01:01:40,044
and scary for her too.
1451
01:01:40,131 --> 01:01:41,741
I asked her.
She--she doesn't remember it.
1452
01:01:41,872 --> 01:01:42,916
She was too little
to remember it.
1453
01:01:43,090 --> 01:01:46,224
But I remember it,
and it was fucking crazy.
1454
01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,976
But people do not realize
how dangerous...
1455
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:06,679
- Some people who are
attracted to Eminem
1456
01:02:06,766 --> 01:02:09,290
might not be
the best-intentioned people
1457
01:02:09,421 --> 01:02:13,120
and who could be aggressive
or violent.
1458
01:02:13,251 --> 01:02:15,688
- We've seen it with other
artists, who a super-fan
1459
01:02:15,819 --> 01:02:17,429
has, you know,
come after them.
1460
01:02:17,603 --> 01:02:24,697
♪
1461
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,657
- I definitely feared
for his safety.
1462
01:02:28,788 --> 01:02:29,963
Sometimes you get
obsessive fans
1463
01:02:30,094 --> 01:02:32,096
that are mentally unstable.
1464
01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:35,534
♪
1465
01:02:35,664 --> 01:02:37,101
- I'm protective of Eminem.
1466
01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:39,756
Oh, my God, if anything
happened to Em--oh, my God,
1467
01:02:39,886 --> 01:02:41,148
I'd come swinging.
1468
01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:44,499
♪ ♪
1469
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:47,720
- You just never know, within
this profession that we have,
1470
01:02:47,894 --> 01:02:49,983
if there's somebody
out there lurking
1471
01:02:50,114 --> 01:02:53,117
that's creating this fantasy
in their own head
1472
01:02:53,204 --> 01:02:56,685
because you're not
responding to them.
1473
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,601
That's the scariest shit ever.
1474
01:02:59,732 --> 01:03:01,255
- Following and tracking him
1475
01:03:01,342 --> 01:03:02,866
like he's not
a regular person,
1476
01:03:02,996 --> 01:03:03,867
you're not a fan at all.
1477
01:03:11,483 --> 01:03:13,311
- 11 years of policing,
I've seen all kinds
1478
01:03:13,485 --> 01:03:15,008
of dark, twisty shit.
1479
01:03:15,182 --> 01:03:16,793
When you get that famous,
you can't talk to everybody.
1480
01:03:16,967 --> 01:03:18,969
You can't say hi to everybody.
You can't meet everybody.
1481
01:03:19,056 --> 01:03:22,755
And so I don't think that
this kid Stan got that.
1482
01:03:22,842 --> 01:03:25,323
- If the Stan character
existed today,
1483
01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:27,020
he would certainly
follow Eminem
1484
01:03:27,151 --> 01:03:29,980
on every platform,
maybe run a fan page,
1485
01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:31,982
definitely on Eminem Reddit.
1486
01:03:32,156 --> 01:03:34,985
Would be writing to him
on each of his
1487
01:03:35,115 --> 01:03:38,945
social media accounts
every day.
1488
01:03:39,076 --> 01:03:41,556
With the song "Stan,"
it's almost like
1489
01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:44,908
a PSA to his fans, like,
please don't do this.
1490
01:03:44,995 --> 01:03:46,823
This is not what I want.
1491
01:03:52,698 --> 01:03:55,832
[dramatic music]
1492
01:03:55,962 --> 01:03:58,530
- When I saw him in 2005's
Anger Management tour,
1493
01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:00,010
I was in college.
1494
01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:02,664
Came there to the show
with my friend.
1495
01:04:02,751 --> 01:04:04,623
[cheering]
1496
01:04:04,797 --> 01:04:09,846
This is when he was touring
nationwide with D12...
1497
01:04:09,976 --> 01:04:11,760
- Yeah, man, we out here
having a good time
1498
01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:13,632
on this tour, so far, so good.
1499
01:04:13,762 --> 01:04:14,807
- And with 50 Cent...
1500
01:04:14,981 --> 01:04:16,243
- 50--
- No, don't tell me.
1501
01:04:16,374 --> 01:04:17,331
I know I did good.
1502
01:04:17,418 --> 01:04:18,942
[laughter]
1503
01:04:19,072 --> 01:04:21,509
- And with Lil Jon
and the East Side Boyz.
1504
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,250
- We out, bitch!
1505
01:04:23,381 --> 01:04:26,558
- Which to this day
has been one of the best
1506
01:04:26,688 --> 01:04:29,126
tours that I've ever seen.
1507
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:31,476
- The atmosphere
of touring and the partying
1508
01:04:31,606 --> 01:04:33,739
and getting up in the morning
and catching the flights
1509
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,828
and the plane and the jet lag
1510
01:04:35,915 --> 01:04:38,178
and riding the bus
and not being able to sleep,
1511
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:39,266
it's hard.
1512
01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:41,616
It ends up running you down.
1513
01:04:41,703 --> 01:04:42,966
- We're done in Detroit.
1514
01:04:43,096 --> 01:04:44,228
Europe next.
1515
01:04:44,358 --> 01:04:45,620
Wow.
1516
01:04:45,751 --> 01:04:48,406
- It's almost like
I have to get off the road
1517
01:04:48,493 --> 01:04:52,236
every now and then and take
a break, or I'll go crazy.
1518
01:04:52,366 --> 01:04:55,282
[somber music]
1519
01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,850
♪ ♪
1520
01:04:57,981 --> 01:05:00,635
- I was supposed to be going
to see him in Manchester,
1521
01:05:00,722 --> 01:05:02,594
and he canceled
because he was--
1522
01:05:02,681 --> 01:05:05,597
well, exhaustion, he--
he told everyone at the time.
1523
01:05:05,727 --> 01:05:09,253
It was a bit of a shock.
1524
01:05:09,427 --> 01:05:11,168
- I actually had
tickets for him,
1525
01:05:11,298 --> 01:05:13,126
whenever the Anger Management
tour was that he canceled.
1526
01:05:13,257 --> 01:05:14,649
I had tickets to that show.
1527
01:05:14,736 --> 01:05:16,303
I remember at the time
being obviously
1528
01:05:16,477 --> 01:05:18,697
supremely disappointed,
but it wasn't a secret,
1529
01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:22,483
the struggles
that he was going through.
1530
01:05:22,657 --> 01:05:23,702
- That's why
I'm pill-adverse,
1531
01:05:23,832 --> 01:05:25,530
knowing how it got to him.
1532
01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:28,141
Even--I think I had, like,
my wisdom teeth out
1533
01:05:28,272 --> 01:05:30,970
and whatnot, and I wouldn't
even take the hydrocodones
1534
01:05:31,144 --> 01:05:33,016
because I'm like, I can't take
too many because this is--
1535
01:05:33,103 --> 01:05:34,669
this is the stuff
that'll get you.
1536
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,759
♪ ♪
1537
01:05:37,890 --> 01:05:39,370
- I was on vacation
for a few days,
1538
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:44,157
and I came back, and my mom
came to pick me--
1539
01:05:44,288 --> 01:05:46,594
pick me up at the airport.
1540
01:05:46,725 --> 01:05:49,206
And she looked at me like she
never looked at me like this
1541
01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:54,385
before, and she said,
"Zolt, someone from
1542
01:05:54,515 --> 01:05:56,691
Eminem friends passed away."
1543
01:05:56,778 --> 01:05:59,172
- Rapper DeShaun Holton,
better known as Proof,
1544
01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:01,174
one of the founders
of the rap group D12
1545
01:06:01,348 --> 01:06:04,003
and a close friend of
sometime D12 member Eminem,
1546
01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:06,266
was shot and killed
at a Detroit nightclub.
1547
01:06:06,353 --> 01:06:08,181
He was 32 years old.
1548
01:06:08,355 --> 01:06:09,748
Proof often shared
the stage with Eminem.
1549
01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:11,271
He was even the best man
at Em's wedding
1550
01:06:11,402 --> 01:06:14,231
this past January,
but he was also...
1551
01:06:14,405 --> 01:06:17,538
- I want you to listen to him,
give him a chance.
1552
01:06:17,712 --> 01:06:21,542
Put your hands together
for the funky honky Eminem.
1553
01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:24,284
[somber music]
1554
01:06:24,415 --> 01:06:25,633
♪ ♪
1555
01:06:25,764 --> 01:06:27,461
- My name is Slim Shady.
1556
01:06:27,548 --> 01:06:29,333
Yo, this is MC Proof,
and this is my DJ--
1557
01:06:29,463 --> 01:06:30,725
- I cry.
1558
01:06:30,856 --> 01:06:31,944
I immediately cry.
1559
01:06:32,075 --> 01:06:34,468
I said to my mom, "Sorry,
I can't go to the school.
1560
01:06:34,555 --> 01:06:36,383
It's too much for me,
too much."
1561
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:38,516
It took three months,
and even after three months,
1562
01:06:38,646 --> 01:06:41,084
when I came back
to the--to the school--
1563
01:06:41,171 --> 01:06:43,956
[clears throat]
Man.
1564
01:06:44,087 --> 01:06:47,090
Even thinking about it really
want to make me cry about it.
1565
01:06:49,266 --> 01:06:50,963
- When he lost Proof,
I cried with him
1566
01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:53,618
'cause I knew
exactly what he felt.
1567
01:06:53,705 --> 01:06:54,923
I lost my cousin,
1568
01:06:55,054 --> 01:06:58,144
and I lost him
in a bad, bad way.
1569
01:06:58,275 --> 01:07:00,103
The one person
that had my back since
1570
01:07:00,233 --> 01:07:03,149
I was a kid,
that always was with me,
1571
01:07:03,236 --> 01:07:05,978
is not here
to help me no more.
1572
01:07:06,152 --> 01:07:07,806
All I was doing was
just popping pills
1573
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:09,373
and just laying
in bed all day.
1574
01:07:09,503 --> 01:07:11,375
If he died, I should die.
1575
01:07:11,549 --> 01:07:13,159
That's how I felt.
1576
01:07:17,555 --> 01:07:19,948
[breathes deeply]
1577
01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:22,125
I'm sorry.
Give me a second.
1578
01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:28,174
[somber music]
1579
01:07:28,348 --> 01:07:32,091
- You know, just,
I've lost a lot of people.
1580
01:07:32,222 --> 01:07:34,876
Um, I've lost my sister.
I lost my dad.
1581
01:07:34,963 --> 01:07:36,400
I lost my nephew.
1582
01:07:36,487 --> 01:07:38,358
So all, like,
my close family's, you know,
1583
01:07:38,445 --> 01:07:39,794
halfway gone.
1584
01:07:39,881 --> 01:07:41,883
Um, but my nephew
was, like, the worst,
1585
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,147
'cause he was,
like, my best friend.
1586
01:07:44,234 --> 01:07:46,888
In 2016, like January,
he like,
1587
01:07:47,019 --> 01:07:49,108
complained about having
a sore neck,
1588
01:07:49,282 --> 01:07:50,762
I think it was,
and doctors were like,
1589
01:07:50,849 --> 01:07:52,764
oh, sinus infection,
this, this, this.
1590
01:07:52,851 --> 01:07:54,070
My sister was
taking him every--
1591
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,158
like, all the time, like--
and he was someone
1592
01:07:55,288 --> 01:07:56,463
that never complained.
1593
01:07:56,594 --> 01:07:58,596
Um, he would never
tell you when he was sick,
1594
01:07:58,726 --> 01:08:00,119
so that was already odd.
1595
01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:03,035
So finally some doctor
was like, yeah,
1596
01:08:03,209 --> 01:08:04,993
no, this is stage IV lymphoma.
1597
01:08:05,124 --> 01:08:06,256
You know,
when my nephew passed,
1598
01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:09,998
I was like, fuck this,
and I tried to overdose,
1599
01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:12,131
um,
after his funeral was over.
1600
01:08:12,218 --> 01:08:15,874
[machinery beeping]
1601
01:08:16,004 --> 01:08:19,312
I woke up in the hospital
with my heart doctor
1602
01:08:19,443 --> 01:08:21,662
at the bottom
of my bed like a dad,
1603
01:08:21,836 --> 01:08:25,013
just telling me never
to do that shit again,
1604
01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:28,843
and I listen to Eminem
because him losing Proof,
1605
01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:31,194
I feel like I really
can resonate with that
1606
01:08:31,281 --> 01:08:34,371
because that was
literally my other half.
1607
01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:38,505
- Why is it so rare
that the public
1608
01:08:38,636 --> 01:08:39,985
gets to see Eminem nowadays?
What's--
1609
01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:41,117
- Yeah, why is it like that?
1610
01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:46,818
- I actually need him
to make my music.
1611
01:08:46,948 --> 01:08:48,341
So he be busy.
1612
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,304
And he had the white shirt
with big Proof on the shirt.
1613
01:09:08,579 --> 01:09:09,797
It was--
I didn't--
1614
01:09:09,928 --> 01:09:14,367
I didn't want to see
Marshall like this, so...
1615
01:09:14,498 --> 01:09:16,935
- Guys, you gotta tell me,
what's the latest
1616
01:09:17,065 --> 01:09:18,284
with the new D12 album?
1617
01:09:18,415 --> 01:09:20,068
- It's all in the memory
of Proof,
1618
01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:21,940
everything that he was.
- Shout out to Proof.
1619
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:24,116
- You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
1620
01:09:24,203 --> 01:09:26,336
- Rest--rest in peace,
big baby.
1621
01:09:26,466 --> 01:09:27,989
- It was one
of the toughest times,
1622
01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:31,341
if not the toughest time
in his life, that we know of.
1623
01:09:31,428 --> 01:09:34,474
And it was kind of, I think,
a when it rains, it pours.
1624
01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:38,174
My dad, he passed unexpectedly
when I was entering
1625
01:09:38,304 --> 01:09:40,480
my freshman year of college.
1626
01:09:40,567 --> 01:09:46,356
You know, listening to him
talking about his grief
1627
01:09:46,443 --> 01:09:50,011
and the lows
that he went through...
1628
01:09:50,098 --> 01:09:52,579
I mean, I connect to that.
1629
01:09:52,710 --> 01:09:55,365
- ♪ And Proof I'm truly sorry
if I let you down ♪
1630
01:09:55,539 --> 01:09:57,541
♪ But this tore me in two ♪
1631
01:09:57,715 --> 01:10:00,413
♪ The thought of
no more me and you ♪
1632
01:10:00,544 --> 01:10:02,023
♪ You gave me shoes,
Nikes like new ♪
1633
01:10:02,110 --> 01:10:04,330
♪ For me for school ♪
1634
01:10:04,417 --> 01:10:06,680
♪ Doody, I'm trying,
but you, you were the glue ♪
1635
01:10:06,767 --> 01:10:08,334
♪ That binded
so many things, time ♪
1636
01:10:08,465 --> 01:10:10,945
♪ I'd give anything
to rewind it ♪
1637
01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:13,731
♪ I had to walk down my halls
and constantly be reminded ♪
1638
01:10:13,861 --> 01:10:15,428
♪ By pictures
all on my walls ♪
1639
01:10:15,559 --> 01:10:16,690
♪ And I couldn't sleep
at night ♪
1640
01:10:16,777 --> 01:10:18,692
♪ 'Cause that image burned
in my brain ♪
1641
01:10:18,866 --> 01:10:21,260
♪ Of you on the table,
me falling across your body ♪
1642
01:10:21,434 --> 01:10:23,219
♪ Not able to stand
to save you ♪
1643
01:10:23,349 --> 01:10:25,395
♪ God,
why did you take him? ♪
1644
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,183
- I was really
worried for Marshall
1645
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:33,968
during those years,
for his well-being,
1646
01:10:34,099 --> 01:10:36,623
spiritually, physically.
1647
01:10:36,754 --> 01:10:40,018
Didn't know how it was
going to alter the future.
1648
01:10:40,148 --> 01:10:42,194
- I'd got into this
vicious cycle of,
1649
01:10:42,325 --> 01:10:45,197
I'm depressed
so I need more pills.
1650
01:10:45,284 --> 01:10:47,068
And then your tolerance
gets so high
1651
01:10:47,155 --> 01:10:49,767
that you end up overdosing.
1652
01:10:49,854 --> 01:10:52,378
I woke up in the hospital,
and I didn't
1653
01:10:52,509 --> 01:10:53,901
know what the fuck happened.
1654
01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:55,642
Like, it--it seemed like I--
1655
01:10:55,773 --> 01:10:57,209
I fell asleep, and I woke up,
1656
01:10:57,296 --> 01:10:58,515
and I woke up
with tubes in me and shit.
1657
01:10:58,602 --> 01:10:59,820
I wanted to get up.
1658
01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:01,082
I couldn't move.
1659
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,828
After the overdose,
I came home going,
1660
01:11:07,959 --> 01:11:13,051
yo, bro, I need something,
and I fucking went to town.
1661
01:11:13,225 --> 01:11:15,880
So I was really, like,
inside knowing, like,
1662
01:11:15,967 --> 01:11:17,621
I need to fucking--
1663
01:11:17,795 --> 01:11:20,754
I'm going to die if I don't--
if I don't do something.
1664
01:11:23,322 --> 01:11:26,499
I had this video
that they brought me
1665
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:29,763
because I missed Hailie's
first guitar recital.
1666
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:32,244
The amount of guilt
that I felt,
1667
01:11:32,375 --> 01:11:34,986
I cried when I saw it
'cause I was like,
1668
01:11:35,116 --> 01:11:38,206
oh, my God, I missed that.
1669
01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:41,471
And I kept saying to myself,
1670
01:11:41,558 --> 01:11:43,211
"Do you want to fucking
miss this again?
1671
01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:45,736
Do you want
to miss everything?"
1672
01:11:45,866 --> 01:11:48,652
♪ ♪
1673
01:11:48,782 --> 01:11:50,088
If you can't do it
for yourself,
1674
01:11:50,218 --> 01:11:53,004
you fucking pussy,
at least do it for them.
1675
01:11:55,528 --> 01:11:59,402
I realized I'm never
doing this again.
1676
01:11:59,532 --> 01:12:02,927
[microphone feedback]
1677
01:12:03,101 --> 01:12:05,277
- When I heard the news
that he, like, overdosed,
1678
01:12:05,408 --> 01:12:08,367
I was like, fuck.
Like, damn.
1679
01:12:08,454 --> 01:12:10,674
Like, he could have actually--
1680
01:12:10,804 --> 01:12:13,285
he could have really died.
1681
01:12:13,372 --> 01:12:14,895
For me with celebrities,
it almost feels
1682
01:12:15,026 --> 01:12:16,506
like they are untouchable.
1683
01:12:16,593 --> 01:12:17,855
So whenever you hear
that a celebrity
1684
01:12:17,942 --> 01:12:19,335
died or almost died,
1685
01:12:19,465 --> 01:12:21,511
it's always like--
it hits you differently
1686
01:12:21,685 --> 01:12:25,036
from, like, uh,
like a normal person.
1687
01:12:25,166 --> 01:12:26,864
- I was just in shock.
1688
01:12:26,951 --> 01:12:28,822
So I made a point,
I'm playing Eminem
1689
01:12:28,953 --> 01:12:30,563
every single day
1690
01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260
until he gets out
and until he gets better,
1691
01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,393
until--until he comes
back to his rap.
1692
01:12:34,567 --> 01:12:36,439
And that's what I did,
every single song
1693
01:12:36,526 --> 01:12:39,616
over and over on replay.
1694
01:12:39,703 --> 01:12:41,052
- While I was sitting
in detox,
1695
01:12:41,182 --> 01:12:42,575
I didn't know exactly
1696
01:12:42,706 --> 01:12:45,535
what I was going to do
with my career.
1697
01:12:45,622 --> 01:12:46,884
- At that time,
I was just thinking,
1698
01:12:46,971 --> 01:12:47,885
like, this can't be it.
1699
01:12:48,015 --> 01:12:49,103
Like, in the back
of my mind, of course,
1700
01:12:49,234 --> 01:12:50,540
I'm scared that it is.
1701
01:12:50,627 --> 01:12:52,759
- No new music, no new tours,
no new interviews,
1702
01:12:52,933 --> 01:12:54,674
no new jokes,
whatever the case is.
1703
01:12:54,761 --> 01:12:56,502
It's just, he'd be gone.
1704
01:12:56,589 --> 01:13:00,724
- To me, it was like, Eminem,
I know it's hard,
1705
01:13:00,854 --> 01:13:05,381
but one day
you are coming back.
1706
01:13:05,511 --> 01:13:07,295
- I had to relearn
how to walk, talk,
1707
01:13:07,426 --> 01:13:08,862
and, for the most part,
1708
01:13:08,949 --> 01:13:11,387
had to relearn
how to rap again.
1709
01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:14,520
My writing had
gotten terrible.
1710
01:13:14,607 --> 01:13:17,218
- What did it feel like when
it started to work again?
1711
01:13:17,349 --> 01:13:19,830
- Um, when I started
to get it back,
1712
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,660
it was exciting
because I felt it.
1713
01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:26,924
It would be in conversations,
just having conversations
1714
01:13:27,011 --> 01:13:28,882
with people or the TV.
1715
01:13:28,969 --> 01:13:31,363
Like, every--every phrase
that someone said on TV,
1716
01:13:31,537 --> 01:13:34,192
oh, you said the word "the."
1717
01:13:34,322 --> 01:13:36,281
Duh, uh.
1718
01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:38,370
It was hitting me really fast,
1719
01:13:38,501 --> 01:13:40,807
and I was writing songs
really quickly.
1720
01:13:40,981 --> 01:13:42,156
What--what's going on?
1721
01:13:42,330 --> 01:13:43,549
[cheering]
1722
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,333
What are you guys doing?
1723
01:13:45,421 --> 01:13:47,379
Do you mind if I come out and
maybe join you or something?
1724
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:49,120
- You wanna come out?
Come on, baby.
1725
01:13:49,207 --> 01:13:51,644
- Eminem!
- Get over here.
1726
01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:53,385
- When he first announced
"Relapse,"
1727
01:13:53,559 --> 01:13:55,213
it felt like Christmas to me.
1728
01:13:55,343 --> 01:13:57,650
Because when
an album comes out,
1729
01:13:57,781 --> 01:14:00,958
I listen to an album
front to back,
1730
01:14:01,045 --> 01:14:02,481
and then back to front,
1731
01:14:02,655 --> 01:14:06,964
and then to the end again,
for months at a time.
1732
01:14:07,094 --> 01:14:10,707
So listening to "Relapse"
was amazing to me,
1733
01:14:10,794 --> 01:14:12,186
just to hear that he's back.
1734
01:14:12,317 --> 01:14:15,233
I was just so, so ecstatic,
so proud, and so happy
1735
01:14:15,363 --> 01:14:16,234
that I could hear him again.
1736
01:14:16,364 --> 01:14:17,975
- Number one, you look good.
1737
01:14:18,062 --> 01:14:20,238
Number two,
you're number one right now,
1738
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:21,326
as far as
your album's concerned,
1739
01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:22,588
and number three,
you're number one
1740
01:14:22,762 --> 01:14:24,068
in the UK as well.
1741
01:14:24,242 --> 01:14:25,373
So congratulations.
1742
01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:27,375
How does it feel?
- Yeah, thank you.
1743
01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:28,725
It feels great.
I mean, I'm just,
1744
01:14:28,812 --> 01:14:29,987
you know, I'm glad to be back.
1745
01:14:30,161 --> 01:14:31,292
[cheers and applause]
1746
01:14:31,379 --> 01:14:33,120
Guess who?
1747
01:14:33,251 --> 01:14:34,557
You miss me?
1748
01:14:34,644 --> 01:14:36,820
Jessica Simpson,
sing the chorus.
1749
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:38,517
- ♪ When you walked
through the door ♪
1750
01:14:38,604 --> 01:14:40,171
♪ It was clear to me ♪
1751
01:14:40,301 --> 01:14:41,564
- ♪ Clear to me ♪
1752
01:14:41,694 --> 01:14:42,390
- ♪ You're the one
they adore ♪
1753
01:14:42,565 --> 01:14:44,218
♪ Who they came to see ♪
1754
01:14:44,349 --> 01:14:45,393
- ♪ Who they came to see ♪
1755
01:14:45,524 --> 01:14:47,091
- ♪ You're a rock star ♪
1756
01:14:47,221 --> 01:14:48,135
- You know what I love
about your work,
1757
01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:49,441
and I'm sure many people do,
1758
01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:51,269
is there's a sense of humor.
It's funny.
1759
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:53,663
Uh, you diss some people
in the new single.
1760
01:14:53,793 --> 01:14:55,099
- Some.
- Yeah.
1761
01:14:55,186 --> 01:14:56,317
[laughter]
1762
01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:57,754
- ♪ Back by popular demand ♪
1763
01:14:57,928 --> 01:15:00,234
♪ Now pop a little Zantac
for antacid if you can ♪
1764
01:15:00,365 --> 01:15:03,629
- As wickedly shrewd
and sharp as he is lyrically
1765
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,805
with these scathing disses
of other people,
1766
01:15:05,892 --> 01:15:08,678
he was equally
on his own case,
1767
01:15:08,808 --> 01:15:11,811
equally making fun
of himself.
1768
01:15:11,942 --> 01:15:13,813
And all of that makes you
endearing to people.
1769
01:15:13,944 --> 01:15:17,556
♪ ♪
1770
01:15:17,643 --> 01:15:19,471
- His disses were
always funny,
1771
01:15:19,558 --> 01:15:21,299
and he did something
with his voice.
1772
01:15:21,429 --> 01:15:22,518
Different character, right?
1773
01:15:22,648 --> 01:15:24,302
Flowing pretty damn cool, though.
1774
01:15:24,476 --> 01:15:27,827
- The whole, like, weird
accent thing that he did on it
1775
01:15:27,958 --> 01:15:29,220
kind of threw me off.
1776
01:15:29,307 --> 01:15:31,135
Then when
I listened to it more,
1777
01:15:31,222 --> 01:15:33,964
I'm like, damn, I was missing
out on, like, some good shit.
1778
01:15:34,094 --> 01:15:35,922
♪ ♪
1779
01:15:36,096 --> 01:15:38,795
[electricity crackling]
1780
01:15:41,058 --> 01:15:44,365
- The response that I got
from "Relapse" was lukewarm.
1781
01:15:44,496 --> 01:15:47,630
That hurt a little bit, but it
also turned the lights on.
1782
01:15:47,717 --> 01:15:50,720
Like, you got to do
something different.
1783
01:15:50,894 --> 01:15:53,461
Why don't you try
embracing sobriety?
1784
01:15:53,592 --> 01:15:56,943
[soft music]
1785
01:15:58,641 --> 01:16:04,037
I realized, like, I'm not
embarrassed anymore about it.
1786
01:16:04,168 --> 01:16:07,214
And I started treating
sobriety like a superpower,
1787
01:16:07,345 --> 01:16:10,957
and I took pride in the fact
that I was able to quit.
1788
01:16:11,088 --> 01:16:13,133
♪ ♪
1789
01:16:13,264 --> 01:16:15,745
- "Recovery" was a breath
of fresh air for him.
1790
01:16:15,832 --> 01:16:17,355
I think it really
sounded like someone
1791
01:16:17,529 --> 01:16:23,753
who was reclaiming his own
life and his own narrative.
1792
01:16:23,883 --> 01:16:26,190
♪ ♪
1793
01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:28,366
- Getting sober and going
through what he went through
1794
01:16:28,496 --> 01:16:31,325
made him a totally different
person and artist.
1795
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:33,850
He just used different flows
and different cadences
1796
01:16:33,937 --> 01:16:35,678
and ways of rapping on tunes.
1797
01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:39,333
So for me as a fan,
it was like becoming
1798
01:16:39,464 --> 01:16:41,901
a fan of a totally new artist.
1799
01:16:42,032 --> 01:16:45,731
♪ ♪
1800
01:16:58,004 --> 01:17:00,006
I was there in the front.
1801
01:17:00,137 --> 01:17:01,704
- Everybody here tonight
who is an Eminem fan,
1802
01:17:01,791 --> 01:17:03,706
man, I just want to say
1803
01:17:03,793 --> 01:17:06,665
thank you
for the support, man,
1804
01:17:06,752 --> 01:17:09,842
and not giving up on me, man.
1805
01:17:09,973 --> 01:17:13,150
I love y'all and I couldn't
have did it without you,
1806
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,718
so this song is for you.
1807
01:17:15,805 --> 01:17:18,024
[Eminem's "Not Afraid"]
1808
01:17:18,198 --> 01:17:20,374
♪ I'm not afraid
- Sing it, y'all.
1809
01:17:20,505 --> 01:17:22,942
- ♪ To take a stand
- Get this business right.
1810
01:17:23,029 --> 01:17:25,466
- ♪ Everybody
- I guess I had to...
1811
01:17:25,553 --> 01:17:26,990
- ♪ Come take my hand ♪
1812
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,948
- Go to that place...
- ♪ On this road together ♪
1813
01:17:29,035 --> 01:17:31,037
- To get to this one.
1814
01:17:31,168 --> 01:17:34,693
And some of you might
still be in that place,
1815
01:17:34,780 --> 01:17:35,912
- ♪ Let you know,
you're not alone ♪
1816
01:17:35,999 --> 01:17:37,391
- Trying to get out.
1817
01:17:37,522 --> 01:17:38,828
- ♪ Holla if you feel that ♪
1818
01:17:39,002 --> 01:17:40,830
♪ You've been down
the same road ♪
1819
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,179
- ♪ Read my lyrics off
of this paper ♪
1820
01:17:42,266 --> 01:17:43,615
♪ Before I lay 'em ♪
1821
01:17:43,746 --> 01:17:44,964
♪ But you won't take
the sting out these words ♪
1822
01:17:45,095 --> 01:17:46,183
♪ Before I say 'em ♪
1823
01:17:46,313 --> 01:17:47,619
♪ 'Cause ain't no way
I'ma let you ♪
1824
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:48,968
♪ Stop me
from causing mayhem ♪
1825
01:17:49,099 --> 01:17:50,840
♪ When I say I'ma do
something, I do it ♪
1826
01:17:50,927 --> 01:17:52,232
♪ I don't give a damn
what you think ♪
1827
01:17:52,363 --> 01:17:53,843
♪ I'm doing this for me ♪
1828
01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:55,018
♪ So fuck the world,
feed it beans ♪
1829
01:17:55,148 --> 01:17:57,020
♪ It's gassed up if
it thinks it's stopping me ♪
1830
01:17:57,150 --> 01:17:59,109
♪ I'ma be
what I set out to be ♪
1831
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:03,069
- That album helped rectify
a lot of things in my life.
1832
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,854
Talking about going
through losing his friend,
1833
01:18:05,028 --> 01:18:08,814
talking about
the sleeping pill addiction.
1834
01:18:08,945 --> 01:18:10,990
I'm just like Marshall.
1835
01:18:11,077 --> 01:18:13,906
There's times when,
in a 48-hour period,
1836
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,170
I'd blow through 30 to 45
Ambien, like it was nothing.
1837
01:18:17,257 --> 01:18:19,825
- ♪ Like a fuck you
for Christmas ♪
1838
01:18:19,912 --> 01:18:21,958
- Watching how
he's gotten sober,
1839
01:18:22,088 --> 01:18:24,874
I didn't feel the need
to numb myself anymore.
1840
01:18:24,961 --> 01:18:26,963
- ♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1841
01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:29,966
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1842
01:18:30,053 --> 01:18:33,534
- I'm sitting down
at home one day,
1843
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:37,234
and I'm just drinking,
and I pop the pill,
1844
01:18:37,321 --> 01:18:39,453
and "Not Afraid" came on.
1845
01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:42,413
I took it like
he was speaking to me.
1846
01:18:42,587 --> 01:18:44,284
And that moment, that day,
1847
01:18:44,458 --> 01:18:46,634
that night gave me
that push to say,
1848
01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:49,202
I'm done.
1849
01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:50,638
I have a wife now.
I have a kid.
1850
01:18:50,769 --> 01:18:52,205
I have responsibilities.
1851
01:18:52,292 --> 01:18:54,251
I can't--I have to stop this.
1852
01:18:54,338 --> 01:18:56,427
So if I didn't act
on it in that moment,
1853
01:18:56,557 --> 01:18:59,517
I would have been screwed.
1854
01:18:59,647 --> 01:19:02,215
He was by my side,
helping me
1855
01:19:02,346 --> 01:19:05,175
so I could be completely clean
and clear out my head
1856
01:19:05,349 --> 01:19:07,220
and start doing something
with my life.
1857
01:19:07,351 --> 01:19:09,309
- ♪ Put my life
back together right now ♪
1858
01:19:09,396 --> 01:19:11,311
♪ It was my decision
to get clean ♪
1859
01:19:11,442 --> 01:19:12,878
♪ I did it for me ♪
1860
01:19:13,009 --> 01:19:15,620
♪ Admittedly, I probably did
it subliminally for you ♪
1861
01:19:15,794 --> 01:19:17,535
♪ So I could come back
a brand-new me ♪
1862
01:19:17,665 --> 01:19:18,797
♪ You helped see me through ♪
1863
01:19:18,928 --> 01:19:19,929
♪ And don't even realize
what you did ♪
1864
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:21,365
♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪
1865
01:19:21,539 --> 01:19:22,845
♪ I've been through
the wringer ♪
1866
01:19:23,019 --> 01:19:24,629
♪ But they can do little
to the middle finger ♪
1867
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,109
♪ I think I got
a tear in my eye ♪
1868
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:27,980
♪ I feel like
the king of my world ♪
1869
01:19:28,067 --> 01:19:29,808
♪ Haters can make like
bees with no stingers ♪
1870
01:19:29,939 --> 01:19:30,896
♪ And drop dead ♪
1871
01:19:30,983 --> 01:19:32,115
♪ No more beef lingers ♪
1872
01:19:32,245 --> 01:19:33,943
♪ No more drama from now on ♪
1873
01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:36,380
♪ I promise to focus only on
handling my responsibilities ♪
1874
01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:37,816
♪ As a father ♪
1875
01:19:37,947 --> 01:19:39,513
♪ So I solemnly swear
to always treat this roof ♪
1876
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,211
♪ Like my daughters
and raise it ♪
1877
01:19:41,341 --> 01:19:43,169
♪ You couldn't lift
a single shingle on it ♪
1878
01:19:43,343 --> 01:19:44,954
♪ 'Cause the way I feel
I'm strong enough ♪
1879
01:19:45,084 --> 01:19:46,999
♪ To go to the club
or the corner bar ♪
1880
01:19:47,086 --> 01:19:48,784
♪ And lift the whole
liquor counter up ♪
1881
01:19:48,914 --> 01:19:50,002
♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪
1882
01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:51,308
♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪
1883
01:19:51,395 --> 01:19:52,439
♪ But I'm too busy
gazing at stars ♪
1884
01:19:52,526 --> 01:19:53,963
♪ I feel amazing, and ♪
1885
01:19:54,093 --> 01:19:56,443
♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1886
01:19:56,574 --> 01:19:59,403
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1887
01:19:59,533 --> 01:20:01,884
♪ Everybody, everybody ♪
1888
01:20:01,971 --> 01:20:04,234
♪ Come take my hand,
come take my hand ♪
1889
01:20:04,364 --> 01:20:08,020
♪ We'll walk this road
together through the storm ♪
1890
01:20:08,107 --> 01:20:10,153
♪ Whatever the weather,
cold or warm ♪
1891
01:20:10,283 --> 01:20:13,330
♪ Just letting you know
that you're not alone ♪
1892
01:20:13,417 --> 01:20:16,028
♪ Holla if you
feel like you've ♪
1893
01:20:16,202 --> 01:20:20,076
♪ Been down the same road ♪
1894
01:20:20,206 --> 01:20:22,078
- When I was young,
I was really using music,
1895
01:20:22,208 --> 01:20:25,777
and oftentimes Eminem's music,
to self-medicate
1896
01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:28,084
for my generalized
anxiety disorder.
1897
01:20:28,214 --> 01:20:30,173
Just kind of having
a hard time with life
1898
01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:31,914
and just processing
different emotions,
1899
01:20:32,044 --> 01:20:35,613
from being bullied at school
or wanting to date girls
1900
01:20:35,743 --> 01:20:37,354
and being rejected.
1901
01:20:37,528 --> 01:20:38,921
Like, you know, all the things
that come with adolescence.
1902
01:20:40,487 --> 01:20:42,533
As I got older,
I started at UNC and
1903
01:20:42,663 --> 01:20:44,840
led a team of researchers,
and we analyzed
1904
01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:48,147
rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018.
1905
01:20:48,278 --> 01:20:52,804
We saw mental health
references go from 8% to 44%.
1906
01:20:52,978 --> 01:20:54,980
Our findings were
a reflection
1907
01:20:55,111 --> 01:20:56,677
of society changing,
1908
01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,028
and there were certain
artists early on,
1909
01:20:59,202 --> 01:21:00,899
Eminem among them,
1910
01:21:01,073 --> 01:21:04,468
who really kind of
normalized it
1911
01:21:04,598 --> 01:21:06,774
and made it OK to talk about
these difficult feelings
1912
01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:08,080
and emotions.
1913
01:21:08,211 --> 01:21:09,647
[Eminem's "Walk On Water"]
1914
01:21:09,734 --> 01:21:11,954
- There's so much strength
in vulnerability,
1915
01:21:12,084 --> 01:21:14,826
and that is such
a powerful thing.
1916
01:21:14,913 --> 01:21:19,091
That's one of the reasons
for Eminem's success.
1917
01:21:19,222 --> 01:21:21,137
When he's really vulnerable,
1918
01:21:21,267 --> 01:21:24,009
and he takes you there, when
he's talking about himself,
1919
01:21:24,096 --> 01:21:26,229
and the downsides of himself,
1920
01:21:26,316 --> 01:21:28,796
those are the things
that I gravitate to
1921
01:21:28,927 --> 01:21:30,624
more so than anything.
1922
01:21:32,191 --> 01:21:34,585
- ♪ I'm a Rubik's,
a beautiful mess ♪
1923
01:21:34,715 --> 01:21:35,586
♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪
1924
01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:38,110
♪ I goof and I jest ♪
1925
01:21:38,241 --> 01:21:39,895
♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪
1926
01:21:39,982 --> 01:21:41,853
♪ But I'm doing
my best to not ruin ♪
1927
01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:43,376
♪ Your expectations
and meet 'em ♪
1928
01:21:43,507 --> 01:21:45,117
♪ But first
the "Speedom" verse ♪
1929
01:21:45,204 --> 01:21:46,727
♪ Now, Big Sean,
he's going too fast ♪
1930
01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:48,991
♪ Is he gonna shout
or curse out his mom ♪
1931
01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:51,297
♪ There was a time I had
the world by the balls ♪
1932
01:21:51,428 --> 01:21:52,951
♪ Eating out my palm ♪
1933
01:21:53,082 --> 01:21:55,998
♪ Every album song I was
spazzing the fuck out on ♪
1934
01:21:56,128 --> 01:21:57,695
♪ And now I'm getting
clowned and frowned on ♪
1935
01:21:57,825 --> 01:21:59,697
♪ But the only one
who's looking down on me ♪
1936
01:21:59,871 --> 01:22:01,917
♪ That matters now's DeShaun ♪
1937
01:22:02,004 --> 01:22:03,831
♪ Am I lucky to be
around this long ♪
1938
01:22:03,962 --> 01:22:05,833
- Eminem was one of
1939
01:22:05,964 --> 01:22:08,924
the most important people
in this trend.
1940
01:22:09,011 --> 01:22:11,361
He made it more acceptable
for other artists
1941
01:22:11,535 --> 01:22:13,667
to really talk about
these complex emotions.
1942
01:22:13,841 --> 01:22:20,936
♪
1943
01:23:07,852 --> 01:23:12,988
- I really felt like those
lyrics were written for me.
1944
01:23:13,118 --> 01:23:15,207
It's extremely therapeutic,
1945
01:23:15,338 --> 01:23:18,863
and I don't take that
for granted.
1946
01:23:18,994 --> 01:23:21,779
- He really has gone through
so much and struggled,
1947
01:23:21,909 --> 01:23:24,608
and I felt connected
to him in a way
1948
01:23:24,782 --> 01:23:29,047
that I ended up changing
my legal name to Marshall.
1949
01:23:29,178 --> 01:23:30,962
It's kind of a reminder
to not feel like I have to
1950
01:23:31,093 --> 01:23:34,009
apologize for who I am.
1951
01:23:36,315 --> 01:23:39,362
[soft music]
1952
01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:46,543
♪ ♪
1953
01:24:20,664 --> 01:24:23,232
- I originally wrote
this letter to Eminem
1954
01:24:23,319 --> 01:24:25,016
three months ago,
but I never sent it.
1955
01:24:30,108 --> 01:24:33,024
"Dear Eminem,
I'm not sure you're going
1956
01:24:33,155 --> 01:24:34,895
"to get this or even read it.
1957
01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:36,941
"I'm just going to write down
how I feel about everything,
1958
01:24:37,115 --> 01:24:39,335
"because, honestly, you're
one of the only people that
1959
01:24:39,465 --> 01:24:41,467
"are helping me get through
this, even if I'm just
1960
01:24:41,641 --> 01:24:43,295
"a random 14-year-old girl
1961
01:24:43,382 --> 01:24:45,515
"probably having
one of those mood swings.
1962
01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:47,734
"Don't worry, I won't end up
like your song 'Stan,'
1963
01:24:47,865 --> 01:24:49,432
"even though it's
one of my favorites.
1964
01:24:49,562 --> 01:24:51,825
"But it will never beat
'Mockingbird.'
1965
01:24:51,912 --> 01:24:53,958
"That fucking song
saved my life.
1966
01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:55,873
"My parents are constantly
fighting about stuff
1967
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,527
"that don't even matter.
1968
01:24:57,657 --> 01:25:00,225
"And it gets annoying, because
when I say something about it,
1969
01:25:00,356 --> 01:25:01,879
"I get blamed for it.
1970
01:25:01,966 --> 01:25:05,752
"And the only one
that I feel cares about me
1971
01:25:05,926 --> 01:25:08,146
"is my brother,
because he was the one
1972
01:25:08,277 --> 01:25:10,453
"that had me listening to you
ever since I was born.
1973
01:25:10,583 --> 01:25:12,455
"He's in his 20s,
and I love him a lot,
1974
01:25:12,542 --> 01:25:15,719
and I wish my parents..."
[laughs]
1975
01:25:15,893 --> 01:25:17,416
"Loved me as much as he did.
1976
01:25:17,547 --> 01:25:19,505
"I thought about how much
you care about Hailie
1977
01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:21,072
"and just wish
they cared about me
1978
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:22,769
"as much as you did with her.
1979
01:25:22,856 --> 01:25:24,771
"It's crazy that your songs
and even your silly interviews
1980
01:25:24,902 --> 01:25:26,904
"make me feel happier
than my family ever did.
1981
01:25:26,991 --> 01:25:28,775
"I know I'm just
another Eminem fan who
1982
01:25:28,906 --> 01:25:30,908
"has a sad backstory
or some other shit like that,
1983
01:25:31,082 --> 01:25:32,475
"but you're such a cool guy.
1984
01:25:32,605 --> 01:25:35,434
"I admire you,
and if my parents did,
1985
01:25:35,565 --> 01:25:37,219
"maybe they'd be an even
better parent like you are.
1986
01:25:37,306 --> 01:25:39,525
Hope you get this, Kripa."
1987
01:25:39,656 --> 01:25:41,179
[laughs]
1988
01:25:41,310 --> 01:25:43,050
- Why do you think
you chose him as an outlet
1989
01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:45,401
for your tough feelings?
1990
01:25:45,531 --> 01:25:46,663
- Um, sorry, wait.
1991
01:25:46,793 --> 01:25:49,100
[laughs]
1992
01:25:49,274 --> 01:25:52,669
Um, probably because, like,
1993
01:25:52,799 --> 01:25:55,541
he's had a really tough
childhood too, so I feel like,
1994
01:25:55,715 --> 01:25:57,543
um, he would relate
a little bit.
1995
01:25:57,674 --> 01:26:03,462
Taking my feelings out with,
like, writing something--
1996
01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:04,898
sorry.
1997
01:26:04,985 --> 01:26:11,122
Um, I feel like it, like,
makes me feel better.
1998
01:26:11,296 --> 01:26:14,125
[somber music]
1999
01:26:14,256 --> 01:26:17,128
[crying]
2000
01:26:17,259 --> 01:26:20,392
♪ ♪
2001
01:26:20,523 --> 01:26:23,221
I feel like
it makes me feel better
2002
01:26:23,352 --> 01:26:25,180
'cause there's also
other people out there
2003
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:26,964
going through the same thing.
2004
01:26:27,051 --> 01:26:31,490
And so if they see
what I'm going through
2005
01:26:31,577 --> 01:26:33,405
and what, like,
Eminem went through,
2006
01:26:33,579 --> 01:26:35,320
maybe they'll know
that a lot of people
2007
01:26:35,407 --> 01:26:37,017
also go through
the same things
2008
01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:40,543
that, like, other people do.
2009
01:26:42,632 --> 01:26:45,200
- A big part of my tattoos
have been about
2010
01:26:45,330 --> 01:26:49,247
facing up to my mental health.
2011
01:26:49,421 --> 01:26:51,989
A lot of people really
didn't like my world record.
2012
01:26:52,076 --> 01:26:53,295
What a stupid record.
2013
01:26:53,382 --> 01:26:55,427
It's ridiculous.
2014
01:26:55,558 --> 01:26:59,649
It can hurt when--when
people say horrible things.
2015
01:26:59,823 --> 01:27:01,390
I've been told that
I need to be locked up,
2016
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,392
I should be in
a mental place.
2017
01:27:03,566 --> 01:27:07,439
[phone chiming]
2018
01:27:07,570 --> 01:27:09,311
Although I read
the negative things,
2019
01:27:09,398 --> 01:27:11,008
and it's hurtful,
2020
01:27:11,138 --> 01:27:14,011
it would never change
the fact that
2021
01:27:14,098 --> 01:27:17,014
I've continued
to get the tattoos.
2022
01:27:17,101 --> 01:27:19,973
- Do you have
a favorite Eminem song?
2023
01:27:20,060 --> 01:27:22,237
- I usually say "Not Afraid."
2024
01:27:22,411 --> 01:27:25,283
There are a lot
of positives, too,
2025
01:27:25,414 --> 01:27:28,068
because my Instagram has
brought a lot of other fans
2026
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:31,376
who really relate to me
in a lot of ways.
2027
01:27:31,507 --> 01:27:33,422
And I met my husband.
2028
01:27:33,552 --> 01:27:34,814
[phone chimes]
2029
01:27:37,556 --> 01:27:39,689
He's a really big
Eminem fan as well,
2030
01:27:39,819 --> 01:27:42,866
and he reached out to me.
2031
01:27:42,996 --> 01:27:45,564
It's really nice
to have somebody that
2032
01:27:45,651 --> 01:27:48,001
gets the whole Eminem thing.
2033
01:27:48,088 --> 01:27:50,656
I get these impulsive
thoughts in my head.
2034
01:27:50,743 --> 01:27:53,659
I was like, we should
get married in Detroit.
2035
01:27:53,790 --> 01:27:55,922
We got married
at St. Andrew's Hall,
2036
01:27:56,009 --> 01:27:59,012
which is one of the first
places that Eminem performed.
2037
01:27:59,143 --> 01:28:03,452
And now we've got a son.
2038
01:28:03,626 --> 01:28:04,975
Without Eminem,
2039
01:28:05,105 --> 01:28:08,021
I wouldn't have
the life I have right now.
2040
01:28:08,195 --> 01:28:11,286
[soft music]
2041
01:28:16,203 --> 01:28:17,466
[doorbell jingles]
2042
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,555
[upbeat music]
2043
01:28:19,685 --> 01:28:23,733
- What do you think is meant
by "The Death of Slim Shady"?
2044
01:28:23,907 --> 01:28:24,864
- Who knows how he means it?
2045
01:28:24,995 --> 01:28:25,909
He's a satirist.
2046
01:28:26,083 --> 01:28:27,389
He could be, like,
2047
01:28:27,563 --> 01:28:29,173
saying let's cancel
Slim Shady.
2048
01:28:29,347 --> 01:28:33,046
Which is kind of funny
to even think about.
2049
01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:36,920
[laughs]
Slim Shady can't be canceled.
2050
01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:40,402
- "The Death of Slim Shady"
is a concept album,
2051
01:28:40,576 --> 01:28:42,012
so you gotta listen
from start to finish,
2052
01:28:42,142 --> 01:28:44,841
um, and it's about Slim Shady,
his character
2053
01:28:44,928 --> 01:28:49,019
that he started 25 years ago,
and how his character
2054
01:28:49,106 --> 01:28:50,673
would be in this age.
2055
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,893
- ♪ Sometimes I wonder
what the old me'd say ♪
2056
01:28:53,980 --> 01:28:55,460
♪ If what ♪
2057
01:28:55,591 --> 01:28:58,158
♪ If he could see
the way shit is today ♪
2058
01:28:58,289 --> 01:29:00,813
♪ He'd probably say
that everything is gay ♪
2059
01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:02,162
♪ Like happy ♪
2060
01:29:02,293 --> 01:29:04,034
♪ What's my name,
what's my name ♪
2061
01:29:04,164 --> 01:29:06,036
♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪
2062
01:29:06,123 --> 01:29:08,560
[explosion]
2063
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:16,438
- This album is about,
I'm not holding back.
2064
01:29:16,612 --> 01:29:18,875
I'm gonna do everything
I can to get canceled.
2065
01:29:18,962 --> 01:29:20,659
- ♪ If I think that shit,
I'ma say that shit ♪
2066
01:29:20,746 --> 01:29:22,487
♪ Cancel me,
what, OK, that's it ♪
2067
01:29:22,574 --> 01:29:23,923
♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪
2068
01:29:24,054 --> 01:29:25,534
- I'm not sure people
actually understand now
2069
01:29:25,664 --> 01:29:26,970
that Slim Shady
is a character.
2070
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,102
I feel like the new album
just offended more people,
2071
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:31,714
but I think that that was
kind of the intention.
2072
01:29:31,844 --> 01:29:33,498
The world is in
a very different place
2073
01:29:33,585 --> 01:29:36,153
to where it was in 1999.
2074
01:29:36,327 --> 01:29:38,198
- Gen Z wants to cancel him.
2075
01:29:38,329 --> 01:29:39,678
Nobody can cancel Eminem.
2076
01:29:39,765 --> 01:29:40,940
Jesus Christ himself
2077
01:29:41,071 --> 01:29:43,334
will have to come down
and cancel Eminem,
2078
01:29:43,465 --> 01:29:44,944
and he ain't
coming down either.
2079
01:29:45,075 --> 01:29:49,253
- As his fan base, we all
grew into this whole family,
2080
01:29:49,427 --> 01:29:50,950
and we're going
to protect this man
2081
01:29:51,037 --> 01:29:52,909
by any means necessary.
2082
01:29:52,996 --> 01:29:54,998
- Going online
and seeing people
2083
01:29:55,128 --> 01:29:56,782
trying to cancel Eminem,
2084
01:29:56,956 --> 01:29:58,393
that is soft,
2085
01:29:58,523 --> 01:30:00,786
and fuck you
if you don't like it.
2086
01:30:00,917 --> 01:30:03,354
Throw up a middle finger
and let it linger.
2087
01:30:03,441 --> 01:30:05,965
- I don't give a fuck, mostly.
2088
01:30:06,096 --> 01:30:07,053
Calm down, Slim.
2089
01:30:07,140 --> 01:30:09,099
We both made Eminem.
2090
01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:10,970
He's the best of both of us.
2091
01:30:11,101 --> 01:30:13,320
And, really,
it's not about me or you.
2092
01:30:13,451 --> 01:30:15,714
It's about him and the fans.
2093
01:30:15,845 --> 01:30:17,847
Damn.
2094
01:30:17,977 --> 01:30:20,153
I don't even want
to fucking admit it,
2095
01:30:20,284 --> 01:30:22,765
but your bitch ass is right.
2096
01:30:22,852 --> 01:30:24,331
I'm embarrassed.
2097
01:30:24,462 --> 01:30:26,203
When I'm in Paris,
I'm embarrassed
2098
01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:28,292
of my parents' parrot.
2099
01:30:37,344 --> 01:30:39,738
- I'm sure 200%, 1,000%.
2100
01:30:39,825 --> 01:30:41,697
[indistinct chatter]
2101
01:30:41,871 --> 01:30:44,264
- Everyone, no matter
how old or young,
2102
01:30:44,395 --> 01:30:45,788
will appreciate
Eminem's music.
2103
01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:49,095
- ♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪
2104
01:30:49,182 --> 01:30:51,576
♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪
2105
01:30:51,707 --> 01:30:54,231
♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪
2106
01:30:54,361 --> 01:30:56,363
- People who have
not been born yet
2107
01:30:56,451 --> 01:30:59,105
will follow his music,
2108
01:30:59,236 --> 01:31:00,672
reopen "The Slim Shady LP,"
2109
01:31:00,803 --> 01:31:02,065
and love him
from start to finish.
2110
01:31:02,195 --> 01:31:04,067
[bright music]
2111
01:31:04,241 --> 01:31:05,590
I'll be looking down proud,
2112
01:31:05,721 --> 01:31:08,027
like, yeah,
damn straight, y'all.
2113
01:31:08,114 --> 01:31:09,420
You get that white tee on.
2114
01:31:09,551 --> 01:31:11,074
You get those
baggy blue jeans.
2115
01:31:11,204 --> 01:31:12,858
For sure.
Rock it.
2116
01:31:13,032 --> 01:31:16,253
- A hundred years from now,
in the catalogs of catalogs,
2117
01:31:16,383 --> 01:31:19,169
you'll be able to go back
and listen to "Lose Yourself"
2118
01:31:19,299 --> 01:31:23,565
or "The Way I Am," and you'll
know Eminem was that guy.
2119
01:31:23,739 --> 01:31:25,305
- All great artists
have the ability
2120
01:31:25,436 --> 01:31:26,872
to reinvent themselves.
2121
01:31:27,003 --> 01:31:29,353
And yet, I feel like
every time a lot of artists
2122
01:31:29,484 --> 01:31:31,834
do that, they always sacrifice
a little bit of something,
2123
01:31:31,921 --> 01:31:35,054
and Marshall's never
sacrificed anything.
2124
01:31:35,141 --> 01:31:39,276
He's, like, remained true
to the first day I met him.
2125
01:31:39,363 --> 01:31:41,278
- I'm just happy
I went after my dreams
2126
01:31:41,408 --> 01:31:43,846
'cause it inspired another
kid to go after his dreams,
2127
01:31:43,976 --> 01:31:45,108
you know?
2128
01:31:45,282 --> 01:31:48,154
The fact that he had
enough personal empathy
2129
01:31:48,328 --> 01:31:52,376
to write something where
2130
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:55,945
the fans' feelings
are being considered
2131
01:31:56,075 --> 01:31:58,338
tells you who he is,
and for that,
2132
01:31:58,469 --> 01:32:00,340
I love and respect him.
2133
01:32:00,515 --> 01:32:02,734
- It's a crazy thing
when all of a sudden
2134
01:32:02,821 --> 01:32:05,868
you go from being someone
no one cares about
2135
01:32:05,955 --> 01:32:08,784
to someone that a lot
of people care about.
2136
01:32:08,914 --> 01:32:12,831
What he's done with his life
is extraordinary.
2137
01:32:12,962 --> 01:32:17,096
- He has grown to be
a fantastic human being
2138
01:32:17,227 --> 01:32:21,405
that is really fucking
dope at his craft.
2139
01:32:21,579 --> 01:32:25,322
He's an amazing father,
and I can't wait to see
2140
01:32:25,452 --> 01:32:27,716
what he's going to
turn out to be next.
2141
01:32:31,807 --> 01:32:35,158
- Coming here, were you
expecting to see Eminem?
2142
01:32:35,288 --> 01:32:37,682
- Maybe.
[laughs]
2143
01:32:37,813 --> 01:32:39,989
I don't--
that would be really cool.
2144
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:42,687
- Half yes, half no.
2145
01:32:42,774 --> 01:32:44,297
- Yes and no.
2146
01:32:44,471 --> 01:32:45,647
- I didn't really expect it,
2147
01:32:45,734 --> 01:32:47,126
but I had thoughts about it,
you know?
2148
01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:51,087
- I was hoping that Eminem
was going to be here.
2149
01:32:51,261 --> 01:32:52,567
- He's a busy man.
2150
01:32:52,741 --> 01:32:53,959
He's got a song
that he just dropped.
2151
01:32:54,133 --> 01:32:55,570
He's got an album that
he's dropping soon.
2152
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:57,223
I just wouldn't think
he had the time.
2153
01:32:57,397 --> 01:32:58,703
- Oh, my God,
what would I even do?
2154
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:59,704
What would I even say?
2155
01:32:59,791 --> 01:33:02,359
- I would probably
just throw up.
2156
01:33:02,446 --> 01:33:03,882
[laughs]
I don't know.
2157
01:33:03,969 --> 01:33:06,276
- If I ever met Eminem,
I would probably die.
2158
01:33:06,363 --> 01:33:08,191
- I don't even know, man.
2159
01:33:08,321 --> 01:33:09,714
I'd be speechless.
2160
01:33:11,673 --> 01:33:13,022
- 2013.
2161
01:33:13,196 --> 01:33:15,372
He was in Paris
for his new album.
2162
01:33:20,682 --> 01:33:23,162
And the car, they're going.
2163
01:33:23,249 --> 01:33:26,818
And I was like, no,
I'm not going to--
2164
01:33:26,949 --> 01:33:31,301
to see Marshall,
and 15 seconds later,
2165
01:33:31,388 --> 01:33:33,346
the car stopped.
2166
01:33:36,741 --> 01:33:39,788
"Marshall want to see you."
2167
01:33:39,962 --> 01:33:44,053
And every fan who was there
2168
01:33:44,227 --> 01:33:46,751
turned their head on me.
2169
01:33:46,838 --> 01:33:49,536
He knew my name,
so I was like,
2170
01:33:49,667 --> 01:33:52,104
holy shit, he knew my name.
2171
01:34:09,513 --> 01:34:11,602
The bodyguard was like,
2172
01:34:11,776 --> 01:34:15,084
OK, OK, OK, Zolt,
you go in the car.
2173
01:34:40,065 --> 01:34:41,719
Man, thank you.
2174
01:34:41,850 --> 01:34:43,721
Thank you for your music,
for everything.
2175
01:34:54,732 --> 01:34:56,778
When you're an artist
like Marshall,
2176
01:34:56,865 --> 01:34:58,083
you don't have time.
2177
01:34:58,214 --> 01:35:00,607
You do not have time
for anything.
2178
01:35:03,567 --> 01:35:04,829
[camera shutter clicks]
2179
01:35:10,574 --> 01:35:12,837
I think he probably
was shocked
2180
01:35:12,968 --> 01:35:16,711
because nobody will tell him
you have to go.
2181
01:35:16,798 --> 01:35:21,106
But, you know, I'm the guy
who respect his time.
2182
01:35:38,820 --> 01:35:40,952
[engine rumbles]
2183
01:35:46,262 --> 01:35:53,356
♪ ♪
2184
01:36:07,413 --> 01:36:12,505
- I think that people
imagine stans as being,
2185
01:36:12,592 --> 01:36:14,203
you know,
violent and deranged.
2186
01:36:14,377 --> 01:36:18,381
But in reality,
being a stan and being a fan
2187
01:36:18,511 --> 01:36:22,037
can actually be a positive
and beautiful thing.
2188
01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:27,042
I've lost a lot
of people in my life,
2189
01:36:27,172 --> 01:36:29,740
but the one thing that has
really gotten me through
2190
01:36:29,871 --> 01:36:32,525
all those losses
has been Eminem.
2191
01:36:32,612 --> 01:36:34,397
Eminem has always
been a constant
2192
01:36:34,527 --> 01:36:37,182
throughout my entire life,
and for a long time,
2193
01:36:37,313 --> 01:36:38,967
I really felt unlucky
2194
01:36:39,054 --> 01:36:40,838
because I wasn't
able to meet him.
2195
01:36:40,969 --> 01:36:42,797
It's like the carrot's
right there,
2196
01:36:42,884 --> 01:36:45,625
but it's like I can't
figure out how to get to it.
2197
01:36:45,756 --> 01:36:47,845
Now my mindset has changed,
because I feel like
2198
01:36:47,976 --> 01:36:50,848
this documentary
is a lot more personal
2199
01:36:50,979 --> 01:36:55,331
than it would be just me
to Em saying, hi, huge fan,
2200
01:36:55,505 --> 01:36:57,333
take a picture.
2201
01:36:57,507 --> 01:36:59,814
Now he kind of can understand
exactly how I've become a--
2202
01:36:59,944 --> 01:37:02,033
like, how I've been
a fan for so long
2203
01:37:02,207 --> 01:37:05,558
and, like, similar
kind of struggles,
2204
01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:07,386
I guess, we've been through,
2205
01:37:07,473 --> 01:37:11,129
and just how his music has
truly influenced my life
2206
01:37:11,260 --> 01:37:16,091
and helped me through really,
you know, traumatic times.
2207
01:37:16,265 --> 01:37:19,659
- But a true die-hard fan
really does, I think,
2208
01:37:19,790 --> 01:37:25,796
understand me
and every aspect of me
2209
01:37:25,883 --> 01:37:29,974
and understands that
I am just a regular person.
2210
01:37:30,105 --> 01:37:32,803
I'm just a fucking
human being.
2211
01:37:35,066 --> 01:37:37,416
The reason they connect
with me is because
2212
01:37:37,547 --> 01:37:39,941
they see some
of themselves in me.
2213
01:37:43,466 --> 01:37:45,642
Maybe they were
bullied as a kid.
2214
01:37:45,729 --> 01:37:48,863
Maybe the world fucking
dealt them a raw deal.
2215
01:37:51,300 --> 01:37:54,303
But for every young person
that gets older
2216
01:37:54,477 --> 01:37:58,481
and wants to pay
the world back...
2217
01:37:58,611 --> 01:38:02,398
that's the person that
connects with me the most,
2218
01:38:02,485 --> 01:38:04,313
because they understand me,
2219
01:38:04,487 --> 01:38:06,271
and I feel like
I understand them,
2220
01:38:06,445 --> 01:38:10,188
and I get them
because they're really me.
2221
01:38:10,275 --> 01:38:13,757
The fans that have grown
with me from day one
2222
01:38:13,931 --> 01:38:16,847
till now, it's,
like, unbelievable
2223
01:38:16,934 --> 01:38:18,196
that they're still with me,
2224
01:38:18,283 --> 01:38:20,155
and I'm very blessed
to this day
2225
01:38:20,329 --> 01:38:23,680
to still have people
that ride for me like that.
2226
01:38:23,810 --> 01:38:25,682
To my fans, thank you.
2227
01:38:25,812 --> 01:38:27,727
I love y'all, and I am--
2228
01:38:27,858 --> 01:38:30,469
I would not be here,
if it was not for you.
2229
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,734
So I owe you my life,
2230
01:38:34,865 --> 01:38:38,260
and that's who I do
my music for is them,
2231
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:40,218
and fuck everybody else.
2232
01:38:40,305 --> 01:38:43,918
Fuck 'em.
Fuck 'em.
2233
01:38:44,092 --> 01:38:46,181
Eat a dick.
2234
01:38:46,311 --> 01:38:50,141
You don't like it,
eat a fat dick.
2235
01:38:50,272 --> 01:38:52,796
[Dido's "Thank You"]
2236
01:38:52,883 --> 01:38:54,885
- Hey, Em, it's Paul again.
2237
01:38:54,972 --> 01:38:59,281
I watched the movie, and we
got to talk about the ending.
2238
01:38:59,411 --> 01:39:02,066
Give me a call back.
2239
01:39:02,153 --> 01:39:06,331
- ♪ And I want to thank you ♪
2240
01:39:06,462 --> 01:39:07,767
- All right,
I only got one minute,
2241
01:39:07,898 --> 01:39:12,947
and I'm at work, and I'm
at, like, 4% on my battery.
2242
01:39:13,077 --> 01:39:14,731
- OK, Gracie,
one minute to do this,
2243
01:39:14,818 --> 01:39:16,211
so my daughter's
gonna help me.
2244
01:39:16,341 --> 01:39:19,040
- Please excuse me.
I just got up.
2245
01:39:19,170 --> 01:39:20,867
Um...
2246
01:39:20,955 --> 01:39:23,783
Marshall Mathers is...
2247
01:39:23,914 --> 01:39:26,003
- I can't believe
I have this opportunity
2248
01:39:26,134 --> 01:39:29,050
even to make this video,
and you might see this, dog.
2249
01:39:29,224 --> 01:39:31,922
Just know I wouldn't be me
without you.
2250
01:39:32,009 --> 01:39:35,534
- I'm your biggest fan,
Marshall Mathers/Eminem.
2251
01:39:35,621 --> 01:39:38,059
Detroit, baby, Detroit.
2252
01:39:38,233 --> 01:39:41,366
- I'm Lisa Mathers, and this
is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II,
2253
01:39:41,540 --> 01:39:42,759
but we call him Shady
for short.
2254
01:39:42,846 --> 01:39:45,544
- Just want you to know
that I'm Em's biggest fan
2255
01:39:45,675 --> 01:39:48,504
because I'm pretty much
the female version of him.
2256
01:39:48,591 --> 01:39:50,723
- Was just married August 26th
of last year
2257
01:39:50,854 --> 01:39:52,247
and walked down the aisle
2258
01:39:52,377 --> 01:39:53,857
to the instrumental
to "Lose Yourself."
2259
01:39:53,944 --> 01:39:55,206
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
2260
01:39:55,337 --> 01:39:56,555
All my friends
and family were like,
2261
01:39:56,686 --> 01:39:57,948
whoa, let's get it.
2262
01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:01,082
- I am Stan.
Stan I am.
2263
01:40:01,256 --> 01:40:03,258
It's kind of like Dr. Seuss,
but no.
2264
01:40:03,388 --> 01:40:05,216
- I have two Eminem tattoos.
2265
01:40:05,347 --> 01:40:09,394
One on my chest.
One on the other chest.
2266
01:40:09,568 --> 01:40:11,831
And a D12 tattoo.
2267
01:40:11,962 --> 01:40:16,184
- I listen to Eminem music
every fucking single day.
2268
01:40:16,358 --> 01:40:18,751
I live Eminem, you can say.
2269
01:40:18,925 --> 01:40:22,929
- Mr. Mathers, I love you.
2270
01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:25,149
From Japan.
2271
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,369
- This is a piece of the tree
of the old house
2272
01:40:27,456 --> 01:40:30,415
and a flower from
the new house right here.
2273
01:40:30,502 --> 01:40:32,504
- Doesn't feel too great,
but, at the same time,
2274
01:40:32,591 --> 01:40:33,549
it kind of does.
2275
01:40:33,679 --> 01:40:35,464
- Hello, Eminem.
2276
01:40:35,551 --> 01:40:39,381
I'm a fan, and I listen
to your music all the time.
2277
01:40:39,468 --> 01:40:41,992
Have a wonderful day
and take care of your family.
2278
01:40:42,123 --> 01:40:43,472
Bye.
2279
01:40:43,602 --> 01:40:48,651
- ♪ Is having
the best day of my life ♪
2280
01:40:48,781 --> 01:40:55,875
♪ ♪
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