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[suspenseful chord strike]

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[man] The thing inside of me, it's like...

the appetite, it's like a wolf that's...

feeling... the hunger.

[Dr. Morgan] When the police arrive, Cheyanne Jessie's not crying.

She doesn't sound worried.

Her daughter is a six-year-old who has medical needs,

has behavioral problems, appointments with doctors.

And it seems really unusual

that a mother would wait a week to call 911.

This is a context in which I think the police

should be thinking, this woman knows a great deal more

than she's letting on.

[Dr. Vienna] We would expect a loving mother to say,

"OK, well then you must leave

because my first obligation is to my child."

But instead, Jessie sees her daughter as an object

that gets in her way.

She doesn't find any use in her.

She's blocking her from what she wants.

[Dr. Morgan] As we learn more about Jessie,

we find out that she has a complicated relationship

with her father. There's confrontation.

There's anger, irritability, according to her boyfriend.

This complicates the features for someone with psychopathy

because, since they don't regulate emotions

like a healthy person does, um...

it makes them more frustrated

when they can't just get what they want.

So they tend to become quite impatient

and short with people.

They ask for something, and when they don't get it,

they get angry and they react.

I think Jessie thought that she had control over Cody.

I think she thought that she could, you know,

use her feminine ways and victim mentality.

And in turn, she was buying his loyalty.

But that's not what happened.

He comes out and tells police everything.

One of the traits of psychopathy

is trying to control other people

and control the story that's being told about you to others.

And the way she did that,

or attempted to do that with Cody, sort of backfired.

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There's an idea in the concept of psychopathy

that we talk about which is called "shallow affect,"

which refers to the idea that people don't have

a wide range of emotions.

We just get this monotonous kind of tone describing things,

but putting out some ideas

that in and of themselves are actually quite distressing.

Maybe she's ben hurt by girlfriend Vickie, right?

She's trying out different narratives

about what might've happened

that'll help shift the blame from her.

I think that's a manipulative strategy that --

to keep the police guessing, keep the police busy,

but not paying attention to her.

[Dr. De La Torre] "I'm dehydrated."

That's biologically ridiculous, right?

This is someone who doesn't respond well

when things get overwhelming,

who does not like to be challenged,

who does not like when things get rough,

when things don't happen the way she just wants them to happen,

and will respond negatively,

will respond in a way in which other people

were not anticipating.

She's definitely saying

the first thing that comes to mind

to try to make it more reasonable.

But the problem is,

is that her reasonableness is so ridiculous

that it's unbelievable.

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[Dr. Morgan] And now she's a victim,

someone who's afraid, afraid of Mark Weekly

and terrified and vulnerable.

Ah -- so this is setting the stage

for a new narrative.

If there's a physical threat, we generally accept the idea

that a person has the right to physically defend themselves.

So she's planting the seeds that it wasn't just verbal,

it was physical.

Harm is being done to her by this aggressive,

violent man, her father.

When someone says they black out,

especially in a criminal case, it's usually a convenient excuse

to discard any sort of responsibility.

Jessie's placing blame on her medication

and why she takes medication.

She's not just controlling the situation of how police are

seeing her, but she's displacing blame,

which is a key psychopathic trait.

They don't take any responsibility for what they've done.

Taking responsibility is not in their mentality whatsoever.

[Dr. Morgan] This is where you see the remarkable ability

to invent a story very quickly.

The minute he says, "Did he come at you with a knife?"

She's like, "Yes."

She's already playing the acting.

She's making it up as she goes.

It is a remarkable example of how rapidly a psychopath

can generate what might be a compelling narrative

to someone whose, like -- falls for the tears

and then the apparent detail in what she's saying.

This is the new scenario.

This is the new reality she wants to create.

I would have anticipated her to be crying, and it isn't.

It's not the time that she's crying.

It's cold.

It's meant for other people to see her as a grieving mother,

but she's not a grieving mother.

She didn't care that her daughter died.

Then later she says, "I was angry."

She was just so angry. She had been angry.

She had been angry at Monroe for threatening to leave.

She had been angry at her father for the abuses that she thought

that she suffered from before.

And she was most angry at her daughter

because the daughter put her in a position

to have to make a choice.

And a psychopath doesn't like to be forced to a choice.

What stands out here is that Jessie has no remorse,

no shame, no feelings whatsoever that her, her daughter is dead,

her dad is dead, and that she did this.

And that's pretty consistent with a psychopath.

So if she is crying or pretending to cry,

I think it's has more to do with her going to jail

and being punished and losing the one thing

that probably mattered the most to her, which was the affection

and attention of Matthew "Cody" Monroe.

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[news reporter] According to reports, Cheyanne Jessie

killed her father and daughter inside her father's home.

She returned days later

and put their bodies in plastic totes,

then hid them in a neighbor's shed.

[Dr. De La Torre] Cheyanne Jessie,

I think, is a product of a lot of different things.

Her own psychopathy was probably a development

of a deprived childhood.

I think she ran up against a society in which she thought

that the only thing that she had was her being a woman --

and her being a woman meant that she needed to have a man.

And the challenge that she received

by having a six-year-old

who was acting like a six-year-old,

I think all of that was too overwhelming for her.

And in her psychopathy, she was willing

to completely detach from the relationships

that she should have leaned on for support.

I also think that those relationships,

whether it was her father or whether it was her boyfriend

or whether it was her daughter,

were never really gonna be healthy.

And Cheyanne just responded in the only way that she knew how,

and that's to be violent towards them.

[news reporter] Jessie, who was accused of killing her father

and her own daughter,

has been found guilty on both counts.

The jury did recommend Jessie

be put to death for killing her daughter,

but life in prison for murdering her father.

The judge is scheduled to sentence Jessie on Friday.

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