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[suspenseful chord strike]
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[theme music playing]
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[man] The thing inside of me,
it's like...
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the appetite,
it's like a wolf that's...
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feeling...
the hunger.
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[Dr. Morgan]
When the police arrive,
Cheyanne Jessie's not crying.
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She doesn't sound worried.
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Her daughter is a six-year-old
who has medical needs,
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has behavioral problems,
appointments with doctors.
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And it seems really unusual
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that a mother would wait a week
to call 911.
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This is a context
in which I think the police
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should be thinking, this woman
knows a great deal more
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than she's letting on.
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[Dr. Vienna] We would expect
a loving mother to say,
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"OK, well then
you must leave
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because my first obligation is
to my child."
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But instead, Jessie sees
her daughter as an object
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that gets in her way.
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She doesn't find any use in her.
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She's blocking her
from what she wants.
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[Dr. Morgan]
As we learn more about Jessie,
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we find out that she has
a complicated relationship
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with her father.
There's confrontation.
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There's anger, irritability,
according to her boyfriend.
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This complicates the features
for someone with psychopathy
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because, since they don't
regulate emotions
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like a healthy person does,
um...
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it makes them more frustrated
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when they can't just get
what they want.
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So they tend to become
quite impatient
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and short with people.
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They ask for something,
and when they don't get it,
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they get angry and they react.
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I think Jessie thought
that she had control over Cody.
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I think she thought
that she could, you know,
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use her feminine ways
and victim mentality.
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And in turn, she was buying
his loyalty.
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But that's not what happened.
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He comes out and tells police
everything.
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One of the traits of psychopathy
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is trying to control
other people
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and control the story that's
being told about you to others.
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And the way she did that,
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or attempted to do that
with Cody, sort of backfired.
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[sinister music playing]
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[suspenseful chord strikes]
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There's an idea
in the concept of psychopathy
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that we talk about which is
called "shallow affect,"
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which refers to the idea
that people don't have
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a wide range of emotions.
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We just get this monotonous
kind of tone describing things,
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but putting out some ideas
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that in and of themselves are
actually quite distressing.
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Maybe she's ben hurt
by girlfriend Vickie, right?
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She's trying out
different narratives
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about what might've happened
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that'll help shift
the blame from her.
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I think that's
a manipulative strategy that --
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to keep the police guessing,
keep the police busy,
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but not paying attention
to her.
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[Dr. De La Torre]
"I'm dehydrated."
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That's biologically
ridiculous, right?
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This is someone who
doesn't respond well
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when things get overwhelming,
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who does not like
to be challenged,
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who does not like
when things get rough,
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when things don't happen the way
she just wants them to happen,
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and will respond negatively,
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will respond in a way
in which other people
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were not anticipating.
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She's definitely saying
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the first thing
that comes to mind
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to try to make it
more reasonable.
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But the problem is,
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is that her reasonableness is
so ridiculous
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that it's unbelievable.
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[Dr. Morgan]
And now she's a victim,
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someone who's afraid,
afraid of Mark Weekly
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and terrified and vulnerable.
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Ah -- so this is
setting the stage
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for a new narrative.
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If there's a physical threat,
we generally accept the idea
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that a person has the right
to physically defend themselves.
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So she's planting the seeds
that it wasn't just verbal,
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it was physical.
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Harm is being done to her
by this aggressive,
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violent man, her father.
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When someone says
they black out,
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especially in a criminal case,
it's usually a convenient excuse
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to discard
any sort of responsibility.
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Jessie's placing blame
on her medication
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and why she takes medication.
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She's not just controlling
the situation of how police are
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seeing her,
but she's displacing blame,
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which is a key
psychopathic trait.
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They don't take
any responsibility
for what they've done.
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Taking responsibility is not
in their mentality whatsoever.
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[Dr. Morgan]
This is where you see
the remarkable ability
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to invent a story very quickly.
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The minute he says, "Did he come
at you with a knife?"
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She's like, "Yes."
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She's already playing
the acting.
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She's making it up as she goes.
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It is a remarkable example
of how rapidly a psychopath
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can generate what might be
a compelling narrative
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to someone whose, like --
falls for the tears
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and then the apparent detail
in what she's saying.
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This is the new scenario.
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This is the new reality
she wants to create.
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I would have anticipated her
to be crying, and it isn't.
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It's not the time
that she's crying.
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It's cold.
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It's meant for other people
to see her as a grieving mother,
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but she's not
a grieving mother.
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She didn't care
that her daughter died.
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Then later she says,
"I was angry."
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She was just so angry.
She had been angry.
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She had been angry at Monroe
for threatening to leave.
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She had been angry at her father
for the abuses that she thought
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that she suffered from before.
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And she was most angry
at her daughter
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because the daughter put her
in a position
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to have to make a choice.
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And a psychopath doesn't like
to be forced to a choice.
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What stands out here is
that Jessie has no remorse,
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no shame, no feelings whatsoever
that her, her daughter is dead,
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her dad is dead,
and that she did this.
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And that's pretty consistent
with a psychopath.
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So if she is crying
or pretending to cry,
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I think it's has more to do
with her going to jail
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and being punished
and losing the one thing
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that probably mattered the most
to her, which was the affection
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and attention
of Matthew "Cody" Monroe.
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[dark music playing]
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[news reporter]
According to reports,
Cheyanne Jessie
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killed her father and daughter
inside her father's home.
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She returned days later
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and put their bodies
in plastic totes,
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then hid them
in a neighbor's shed.
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[Dr. De La Torre]
Cheyanne Jessie,
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I think, is a product
of a lot of different things.
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Her own psychopathy
was probably a development
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of a deprived childhood.
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I think she ran up against
a society in which she thought
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that the only thing that she had
was her being a woman --
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and her being a woman meant
that she needed to have a man.
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And the challenge
that she received
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by having a six-year-old
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who was acting like
a six-year-old,
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I think all of that was
too overwhelming for her.
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And in her psychopathy,
she was willing
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to completely detach
from the relationships
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that she should have leaned on
for support.
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I also think
that those relationships,
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whether it was her father
or whether it was her boyfriend
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or whether it was her daughter,
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were never
really gonna be healthy.
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And Cheyanne just responded in
the only way that she knew how,
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and that's to be violent
towards them.
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[news reporter]
Jessie, who was accused
of killing her father
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and her own daughter,
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has been found guilty
on both counts.
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The jury did recommend Jessie
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be put to death
for killing her daughter,
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but life in prison
for murdering her father.
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The judge is scheduled
to sentence Jessie on Friday.
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