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[eerie theme music plays]

MAN: There's this thing inside
of me, it's like...

the appetite.

It's like a wolf that's...

filling...the hunger.

♪♪

MORGAN:
From a behavioral standpoint,

he's appearing like someone
who's lost in his head

and perhaps responding to
delusional elements that we

can't see or hear.

TUSSEY: There's certainly
a flavor of paranoia.

He's making comments like,
"I know what you all have done

to me," but it's unclear
what he's really referring to.

It's possible that this is
all part of a ploy,

that he wants
to present himself

as someone
who's mentally ill.

TUSSEY: Does he have
a real mental illness?

Or is this part of an act?

If someone is having
a psychotic episode,

they may not be in full
control of their actions.

MORGAN:
The phenomenon of hearing

voices or having
auditory hallucinations,

Usually something
we consider in

the world of the domain
of schizophrenia.

But most individuals
who have voices

don't volunteer that
they're hearing them.

You usually have to ask
about them.

That definitely raises
a red flag for me,

when he volunteers them
like that.

If this is more psychopathy,
less psychosis,

this is the ultimate
manipulation attempt,

because he is
using intelligence,

his knowledge of symptoms of
mental health conditions, and

acting them out in order to be
able to maintain his innocence.

Why stop at I'm hearing voices
coming out of both ears

when I can add in, voodoo?

Bynum sounds delusional,
but he's trying to

figure out,
how do I play my cards?

He's wanting
to commit to feigning

psychiatric symptoms,
likely for a defense.

It's not very compelling.

TUSSEY:
In the crime scene photos,

it looks like wounds that are

inflicted by somebody
who's full of rage.

It's not once, it's not twice.

It's multiple times --
the sheer volume

and severity of the injuries
is really stunning.

MORGAN:
He is very more into

the psychopathic realm
than the delusional realm.

He has significantly
mutilated her body.

There's a level of rage and
intent and deliberation to

the act -- for me, these all
link to narcissistic rage.

MUNDY:
The detective has his number.

Let me get this guy talking
about himself.

His own ego will undo
his ability to protect

himself here.

This guy seems very
impressed with himself,

despite a lack
of achievements.

MORGAN: The most insulting thing
to the narcissist is actually,

in general, the real world.

Most people can grow up
and adjust, and they're mature.

He's rather narcissistic.

He does strike me
as somebody who was

very angry about not having
reached that potential.

Perhaps she didn't believe
in his grandiose,

inflated sense of
his abilities.

MORGAN: For people
who are psychopaths,

fantasy is more important than
reality, but his girlfriend is

not conforming to his fantasy,
and that enrages him, because

it doesn't fit in his grand
picture of himself,

and it's not her fault,
but in his mind, it is.

So for her to say, now

you're just talking crazy,
would be a trigger to make

him angry.

TUSSEY:
He feels disrespected when

she's, quote,
running her mouth.

Someone who has psychopathic
tendencies wants to be in

control of the situation,

and this perceived loss
of control only

fuels that rage.

Whereas he couldn't
do anything

about his professional
basketball playing,

he can have control over
the situation, and he did.

[phone buzzing]

MORGAN: In the weeks leading
up to the murder,

There are numerous text
messages back and forth

between Bynum and Remmi,

are worth commenting on
from a psychiatric standpoint.

Remmi writes to him,
"You know I love you,

"but things have to improve.

You spit in my face.
I'm getting tired of that."

And Bynum responds,

"What is you talking about?

"One moment you love me,
the next moment,

you want me to leave."

And Remmi writes back
a little bit later,

"I thought it would
be different."

Bynum responds,
"Make a difference,

then, instead of talking
and running your mouth."

It is a threat to
his narcissism

to hear people
giving him feedback,

and then that moves him
into behavior

that's some psychopathic.

TUSSEY: This text indicates
a failure of

his accepting responsibility,

rather, it's her.

Okay, well then
you make a difference.

But we don't see any
indication that he's actually

recognizing that
he's a contributor to their

relationship problems.

This is another excerpt from
a text exchange, where Bynum is

saying,
"The mind games aren't

gonna work," and Remmi
responds by saying,

"I'm not playing mind games.
This is my life.

What about you being wrong?
Are you ever?"

To which Bynum responds,
"Sweetheart,

"God don't like ugly.

He knows exactly what's going
on and what's going to happen."

He is manipulative,

and this is the mind game
that he's playing.

She's going to conform
to what he wants,

since it's never his fault.

[phone buzzing]

TUSSEY:
He does, in another text,

make a sexual reference about
how he could keep her mouth

shut using sexually
provocative language.

And in that instance,
it shows his attempt

again to control that
through sexual means.

MORGAN: In many cases with
psychopathy and violence,

sex doesn't become
a pleasurable, intimate act

between two people.

It becomes something
that's aggressive

and violent and done
to the other person,

either to put them down
or shut them up.

In the majority of cases,
if someone's delusional,

they continue to act in a way
consistent with their delusion.

But in his case, we do see
behaviors that he's not

a delusional mental health case,
but instead, someone who's

thinking clearly, rationally
about what he's doing and

hiding evidence.

MUNDY: He's aware of
the tactical importance --

not that he has
a mental illness or not,

but of the perception that he
has a mental illness, that he

is symptomatic, and that if he
did kill her, that he did it

due to a mental illness,
and it's not his fault.

I'm just gonna take off
the clothes, likely, with

the blood on it before I go

to the local convenience store
and act odd to set the stage

that something
is wrong with me.

MUNDY:
Lakeside Behavioral Center,

I guess it's some
psychiatric center

where he received
treatment -- one,

he's introducing more material
to say, hey,

I want you to think I have
a mental illness that's making

me not responsible
for this -- two,

I want you to think

that my dead girlfriend also
thought I had a mental illness.

MORGAN: I don't believe him
when he says,

oh, I wouldn't do that
with my daughter there.

And I say that,
because I haven't seen any

expressions of remorse
or consideration for other

people's feelings.

We don't hear any concern
about her future.

What will she think of it?
How will she react?

Who will she live with?
This is a lack of remorse

that's really commonly seen
in psychopathy.

MORGAN: There's a wide range
of reasons

why people have sex
with dead people.

He says it's getting
the voodoo magic out of him,

but in the big picture,
it sounds more like psychopathy

to me.

There's not a sexual
satisfaction, there is a power

satisfaction from it.

TUSSEY:
Psychopaths sometimes do engage

in sexually deviant behavior.

Having sex with a dead body is
the ultimate control for him.

He's letting her think

there's a relationship between
the medications and voices.

The medications he says he
takes are not medications that

are used for schizophrenia,

the core symptoms of
someone hearing voices,

being delusional.

So this is him creating
a story in

the mind of the interrogators
to manipulate

their view of him.

Again, something that
we see in psychopathy.

When he said, "Just seeing --
no, I mean, just hearing,"

I thought that slip-up was
actually significant.

He's not speaking
from experience,

from the experience of
having hallucinations.

So I think
he's thinking on the fly,

trying to figure out
what to say,

and he's not doing a great job.

He looks more like
a manipulating psychopath.

He's trying to manage
the interrogation

so they think he's crazy,
but I don't believe that he is.

TUSSEY: He's so callous,
and he talks about this as if

he's on stage at a comedy show,

you know, and talking about
how weird this experience is

for him, but in fact,
he's talking about the murder of

his girlfriend.

TUSSEY: He's created this
fantasy that he could have

been, would have been,
should have been,

this professional athlete,

and, um, is upset and angered

that nobody seems to really
realize that about him.

And I think mom really puts
him in his place by saying,

"Maybe you did have good skill,

but your attitude far exceeded
what your skill level was."

MORGAN: We certainly have
a hint that he was a bully.

That behavior
is commonly seen in

people who go on to
become psychopaths.