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MAN: There's this thing inside
of me, it's like...
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the appetite.
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It's like a wolf that's...
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filling...the hunger.
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♪♪
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MAN: It has happened again.
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Still again, a woman
has been found murdered
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in one of the most painful
forms of murder.
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MAN #2: Detectives say
they found the nude body of
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a 43-year-old woman.
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The victim has been
identified as
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Donna Bennett Johnston
of Baton Rouge.
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The cause of death --
strangulation.
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MAN #3:
Sean Gillis is Baton Rouge's
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latest suspected serial killer.
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The most recent homicide --
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43-year-old
Donna Bennett Johnston.
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It's interesting
that Gillis had a live-in
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partner and fulfilled
the role of step-parent.
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We do see this sometimes
with individuals who
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are psychopathic.
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They live a public life that
appears on paper to look like
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everybody else.
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Gillis wants to blend in,
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which is part of how I think
he lured his victims in.
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SAHNI: She's not even
really able to fight back.
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I think that's where you see
a streak of
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sadism in him that even in
this very focused kill
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that was quick,
by his own description,
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he still needed that moment
for her to plead, to beg.
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I think that it was
a necessary first step
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to start the process of
the arousal for him.
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BERRILL: His willingness to act
this out and make his arms
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go limp and demonstrate
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what a dead body might look
like hanging out of a trunk --
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it just moves, you know,
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the theatrical dimension of
his behavior forward
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and also gives you some clue
as to the kind of fantasies
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that he has --
have complete
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control over the body as if it
were a doll or an object is
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apparently amusing to him.
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SAHNI: The photography allowed
him to have a token to take with
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him to relive the crime,
and the purpose of reliving
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the crime, when someone
is a sexual sadist is
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to recreate that arousal
sexually for themselves.
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Those days when he felt bored
or flat or disengaged,
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which is very common
for psychopaths,
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those photographs
fill that void.
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BERRILL: He was suggesting
to the profiler
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that this is
every boy's fantasy.
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Now, is it really?
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You know,
I think he is mistaken,
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but it lets you know, from
an early age, that there was
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something wrong with him.
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SAHNI: When you're dealing
with someone who's
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this psychopathic,
you have to take a lot of
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what they're saying with
a grain of salt,
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because a very cliche
stereotypical belief a lot of
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criminals have is that
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psychologists have this
anchored belief that boys want
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to have sex with their moms.
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So this is really him playing
to the profiler.
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He wants to be studied.
Okay, come study me.
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I'm such an interesting,
complex person.
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So he's giving her what
he thinks she wants to hear.
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BERRILL: He compared her
to a Barbie doll,
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something lifeless,
nonetheless, arousing for him.
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The average person
would find this grotesque.
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He likes it better
if they're dead,
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because therefore,
there's no conversation.
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There's no being challenged
on his motives
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or his desires,
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and therefore,
he can revel in his
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perverse fantasies.
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This gives us a window into
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where Gillis's fantasies
may have begun.
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He had to plot and correct
and reform
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and restage the fantasy
in his mind
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before he actually went out and
started hunting real live women.
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SAHNI: So there's that hunting
behavior, getting to know
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his specimen,
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his kill -- being in the zone
is really that high.
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Once he gets locked and loaded
on the idea that he's gonna go
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kill again and torture,
he's ready to go do it.
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BERRILL: Well, then who took
the pleasure?
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What is he blaming?
His brain and not himself.
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So that's where you see,
he's being disingenuous.
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It comes across as bologna.
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SAHNI: He's splitting off
parts of himself,
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There's the monster,
there's the brain,
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and these things are
different than Gillis.
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That's what he's essentially
saying to us -- it's not true.
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We understand it's all
part and parcel of
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himself as one collective
person who's doing these acts.
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But I think
there's a part of him
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that does struggle to
understand his own fantasies.
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SAHNI: It's important to note
that he incapacitated
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her by running her over with
his car.
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There was no fighting
for her life.
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There was no begging,
there was no pleading,
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and a sadist needs
that arousal,
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creating fear in someone,
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and so maybe he is learning
something about
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what turns him on
and what turns him off.
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SAHNI: Whether it happened
or not is almost irrelevant.
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Gillis is giving us a window
into how clear
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his sexual fantasies
were and how far back
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they go, and there is
a component of the need for them
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to be dead and unresponsive.
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These things are not
about relationships.
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These things are about
objectification and power
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because he wants him dead.
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It's a really twisted way of
pursuing your sexual interests,
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making death of precursor.
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To be this murderous
and perverse,
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you have to have a well
of despair and emptiness.
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SAHNI:
This is victim number seven.
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He likely is also experiencing
a greater need for intensity,
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for that thrill and that high,
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which means it takes more
and more to get the same rise
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and maybe killing
somebody close to him
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gave him that arousal
that he wanted.
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I mean,
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I was willing to kill
someone I knew,
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because I had this kind of
itch -- that is frightening.
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You kind of get a feel for how
disturbed he really is.
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BERRILL: He's reflecting a kind
of tender attitude, and the fact
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that he would paint
her fingernails,
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essentially pretty her up, does
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suggest something
a little bit fetishistic.
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It's a very peculiar behavior,
and it harkens back to
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his mother, dressing her up
like a Barbie doll.
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SAHNI: For Gillis, human beings
aren't whole entities.
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They're a compilation of parts,
sort of how
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he talked about his brain
being different than him.
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I find myself wondering
whether those hands are
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reminiscent of some earlier
experiences that he had had.
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SAHNI: This display
of emotion is synthetic.
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It doesn't appear
to be sincere or real,
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and I think
it's a load of crap.
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You have a situation with
a father who is estranged from
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his son -- they have
no relationship at all.
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So I find it hard to believe
that he would have sent his son
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over to the house to pick up
some things, and he just leaves
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all of these things about his
personal sex life out and about.
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Gillis's references
to the whips
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and the chains and orgies
and things of that nature
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I think really just gives us
a window into
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how his leap into pornography
addiction may have gone.
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It may have started
with interests
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in sadomasochism and became
increasingly more dark.
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I think the hands
makes for a good story.
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It's too convenient.
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It fits together too cleanly --
his father left
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when he was one
or two years old,
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and so he's just
adopting this new story
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right before our very eyes
in this interview.
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I don't find it credible.
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So I really take this as
superficial attempts to look
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like he cares, like he has
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a sense of emotion or empathy,
when in fact, he doesn't.
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BERRILL:
He is feeling bad for himself,
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you know, feeling like
he's nothing,
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and he levels the playing field
by murdering
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and dismembering people.
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He can go
from feeling bad about
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himself and terrible to
feeling, uh,
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grandiose and powerful.
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It's a high and a low, and
the end result is self-loathing.
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This is true of all, you know,
serial murderers.
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It's like a cycle.
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So he is definitely
a psychopath
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and a frightening person,
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and if not caught,
predictably would continue
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to do what he did.
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