All language subtitles for Signs.of.a.Psychopath.S02E05.I.Have.a.Surprise.for.You.1080p.AMZN.WEB-DL.DDP2.0.H.264-BurCyg_track3_[eng]

[scoffs]

[suspenseful chord strike]

MAN: There's this thing inside
of me, it's like...

the appetite.

It's like a wolf that's...

filling...the hunger.

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[police sirens wailing]

[distant siren wailing]

OFFICER: Okay.

One of the things
that strikes me is

the rapid nature of his
a shift of mood.

So it kind of goes into
what we call

shallow affect
or shallowness

of the emotional expression.

MORGAN: This is bizarre.

What this behavior is is
sussing out or exploring.

What do the police know?

So that he will then know
what to expect

and how to angle
what he's going to do next.

Daniel's appeal to God
can be seen as

kind of an attempt
to be seen positively.

If people view him as
a spiritual or religious figure,

that they might be more
forgiving of his sins.

It's an attempt
at manipulation.

MORGAN: This is a continuation
of the performance.

He's really quite sharp
about what he's doing.

I think he...

it could be a genuine
expression of hope

that maybe his dad
doesn't die,

but I don't think so.

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What he's doing here
is very calculated.

He is providing a reason

that might
explain why his fingerprints

will be found on the gun.

And he makes it even sound
like it was a gesture

of kindness.

But no,
he's plotting an alibi.

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MORGAN: It's just
this absolute indifference

to the whole situation
he's in.

He is entirely self-absorbed,

and there's no emotional
involvement in this tragedy

he's supposed to
be experiencing.

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Mm-hmm.

KATSAVDAKIS: The video game
is not what's significant.

What's significant is his
parents, in his perception,

are intentionally

and motivated to prevent him
from reaching a goal.

And that is what increases

the level of anger
and subsequent aggression.

MORGAN: The video game is
definitely a fantasy world.

This is absorbing to him.
This is his world.

Invasion narratives are about
the other that's coming in

either to threaten
or take over something,

and you get to fight back and
ward them off and overcome

and win,
so this is about power.

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MORGAN: I don't buy it at all --
this is the story

he's decided
he's going to tell.

He's trying to sound
emotionally upset.

Well, kind of half-covering,
covering his face for it,

but the dynamic he's setting up
is that he is a victim

in all of this.

We see him attributing to
the father his own

aggression and blaming
the father because he resents

his father.

I think the emotion
and the story are

absolutely calculated --
this is his alibi.

KATSAVDAKIS: His change in body
language is very interesting.

He has his left hand toward
his brow to indicate that

he's crying,
looking with his left eye

to see what
the detective is doing.

MORGAN: There's the element
of psychopathy,

someone who apparently

doesn't really have empathy.

It looks like he is angling
and conniving and planning

and checking out what he needs
to say and what he won't say

so he can figure out
what will be best for him.

So people who are psychopaths,
they can put on a mask

and appear as normal
as possible to other people.

He doesn't care about
the police officers,

but he is probing.

What's clear, no matter what
we read into his specific

comments, is that he is not
behaving like a normal person.

He's not having the basic
emotions of fear,

anxiety, loss, and concern
about family.

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Okay.

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[dinging noise]

Okay?

He's trying to think of
reasons -- I've spun

the religious reason, I've spun
the I don't know what happened

reason I've spun my father
did this reason.

I think we're on the sixth
different narrative at

this point,
but he did not snap.

The literature and the science
has been very,

very clear
that people don't snap.

If you scratch
below the surface

in many of these instances,
there are many clues.

Long-term anger,
possible depression,

inconsistency within parents,

high control, low empathy.

There's always signs.

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MAN: Reverend Mark Petric
takes the stand in

the trial of his 17-year-old
son, Daniel.

Prosecutors say
in October of last year,

the teenager shot his father
and shot and killed his mother,

Sue Petric,

in the living room of
their Wellington home.

MORGAN: The line that
the father tells us,

I think there is an element of
sadistic pleasure in doing it.

It does come within
the context of an adolescent

who I suspect for a while
has felt enraged

living in the home under
the rules from the parents.

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MAN: Mark Petric of Wellington
believes his son's addiction

to a violent video game

is what caused him
to shoot both his parents

after they took the game away.

He got involved in
the violent graphic video games

and became addicted to them

and was playing as much
as 18 hours a day.

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MORGAN: If you're growing up in
a household where you realize

the rules are very strict,

it can produce a sort of split
sense in kids growing up.

Some children may discover
they have to be duplicitous.

You have to be able to say yes
to get along with

everybody because those are
the rules while then secretly

doing something else.

Where this can then move into
the psychopathy range is that

they can develop a genuine

lack of empathy for the people
they have to live around

but can no longer relate to.

Being involved in the gaming

meant something
very important to him

emotionally in the fantasy
he could engage in.

KATSAVDAKIS: The video game
in and of itself is

not the cause or the factor
to a homicide.

However, it feeds the fantasy
that this violence is

actually a feasible
and reasonable solution

to my grievance.

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WOMAN: Despite the shooting,
Daniel Petric's family,

including his father,
says they forgive him.

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