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Hummel: I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DON'T THINK THE WAY
OTHER PEOPLE DO.

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BACK IN THE BEGINNING,
EVERYTHING WAS FINE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN ME AND HER FIRST
STARTED GOING OUT,

BEFORE WE EVEN GOT MARRIED.

AND EVERYTHING JUST STARTED
GOING DOWNHILL FROM THERE.

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SHE WAS SO BRIGHT
AND CURIOUS AND...

ABSORB EVERYTHING YOU TELL HER
AND ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS.

I'D BE SITTING ON THE BACK PORCH
SMOKING A CIGARETTE,

AND SHE'D HAD ME TELLING HER
ABOUT INSECTS

AND STUFF THAT'S OUT IN
THE WOODS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

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THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME
THOUGHTS LIKE THAT

EVER STARTED
CREEPING IN MY MIND,

AND THEN IT JUST KEPT BUILDING
AND BUILDING

UNTIL FINALLY IT JUST,
YOU KNOW, ERUPTED LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, NO OTHER TIME
IN MY LIFE

HAD I EVER THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING
ANYBODY OR EVEN HURTING ANYBODY.

Morgan: HAVING VIOLENT THOUGHTS
IS ABSOLUTELY NORMAL FOR US

AS HUMAN BEINGS.

SOME PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT --

THEY GO, "OH, MY GOD,
I HAD THIS THOUGHT.

IT MAKES ME A BAD PERSON."

NO, IT DOESN'T.

IT ISN'T THOUGHTS.

IT'S WHAT WE DO
WITH THOSE THOUGHTS.

FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T
PROCESS EMOTIONS NORMALLY,

THEN THOUGHTS ARE FASCINATING

AND THEY COME BACK
AROUND AND AROUND.

Termini: OFTEN PSYCHOPATHS
WON'T TELL PEOPLE

ABOUT THE THOUGHTS
THEY'RE HAVING

OR THE URGES THEY'RE HAVING

SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
ANYBODY TO STOP THEM.

BUT IT'S GENERALLY NOT OUT
OF A SENSE OF SHAME

OF THOSE THOUGHTS.

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[ CRICKETS CHIRPING ]

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Hummel: YOU KNOW, I LEFT
PRETENDING TO GO TO WORK,

EVEN THOUGH
I WAS OFF THAT NIGHT.

AND THEN RETURNED BACK HOME
WHEN THEY WAS ASLEEP.

I WAS STANDING THERE
IN THE BEDROOM.

I WAS CONTEMPLATING ON MY HEAD,
GOING THROUGH IT.

AFTER THAT IT WAS JUST...
YOU KNOW, A BLUR, BASICALLY.

I DON'T KNOW
IF IT WAS 30 MINUTES.

SOMETIMES IN THOSE MOMENTS,
TIME STANDS STILL.

IF 30 MINUTES
WAS ACTUALLY 30 SECONDS,

HE COULD HAVE BEEN THINKING
A VARIETY OF THINGS,

SPECULATING, OF COURSE.

"WILL I GET CAUGHT?
HOW WILL I COVER MY TRACKS?"

Berrill: I DON'T THINK MORALITY
WAS THE OVERRIDING ISSUE.

THE ISSUE REALLY PROBABLY WAS,
"COULD I DO IT?

AND IF I DID IT, YOU KNOW,
WOULD I BE CAUGHT?"

Producer: WHAT HAPPENED?

I MEAN, I CAN
DISTINCTLY REMEMBER,

BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO.

I MEAN --

YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW,
IMMEDIATELY START THINKING

ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE,
LIKE A FAVORITE MOVIE OR SONG

OR TAKE OUT A BOOK
AND START READING.

IT'S JUST TOO HARD.

I DON'T WANT TO REALLY THINK
ABOUT IT.

I-I DON'T WANT
TO REMEMBER THEM THAT WAY.

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I THOUGHT IT SOUNDED LIKE
A PRETTY REALISTIC DESCRIPTION

FOR PEOPLE WHO SUFFER
FROM THIS OBSESSIONAL LOOP.

AND IT'S A DISTRACTION TASK

THAT TRIES TO KEEP THE IDEA
AT BAY

RATHER THAN DEALING WITH IT.

IT'S NOT EMPATHY.

IT'S NOT REMORSE
OVER WHAT HE DID.

HE'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING,

"I DON'T LIKE THINKING
ABOUT THAT."

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Hummel: I HATE WHAT I DID.

EVERYBODY SHOULD HATE
WHAT I DID,

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE
TO ACTUALLY HATE ME FOREVER.

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Hummel: PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE
TO UNDERSTAND.

SOMETIMES THERE'S NOT
AN EXPLANATION.

SOMETIMES THINGS JUST HAPPEN.

THERE'S NO RHYME
OR REASON TO IT.

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THESE ARE SOME
OF THE TEXT MESSAGES

BETWEEN JOHN HUMMEL
AND HIS GIRLFRIEND.

"JOHN, YOU'RE MARRIED
AND I'M NOT A HOME WRECKER."

HE REPLIES, "I KNOW AND I LOVE
THAT YOU'RE MY FRIEND

AND THAT YOU WILL NOT
LET ME HURT HER.

THAT'S THE LAST THING
I WANT TO DO. SO THANK YOU."

THIS IS QUITE MANIPULATIVE BY
SAYING, YOU KNOW,

APPRECIATING HOW MUCH SHE
DOESN'T WANT TO WRECK THE HOME

WHEN IN FACT HE'S PLANNING
TO PURSUE

WRECKING THE HOME
IN THE ULTIMATE WAY.

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Raghavan: "HOW MANY YEARS
DID IT TAKE YOU

TO FIGURE OUT
ALL THE RIGHT THINGS TO SAY?"

"I'M JUST SAYING
WHAT I'M THINKING AND FEELING."

SHE THINKS HE'S BEING
MANIPULATIVE TO GET SEX,

AND SHE'S BEING MISTRUSTFUL,

LIKE, "WHY IS HE BEING
SO FLATTERING AND SO INTENSE?"

Tussey: IT'S POSSIBLE
SHE COULD BE PICKING UP

ON HIS ATTEMPT
TO BE CUNNING AND MANIPULATIVE

OR SUPERFICIALLY CHARMING.

YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY
A PSYCHOPATHIC TRAIT.

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AND HERE IS HER RESPONSE.

"YOU DO NOT HAVE SYMPATHY
FOR YOUR WIFE

WHILE SHE WAS
CARRYING YOUR CHILD."

Raghavan: SHE'S PICKING UP
THAT HE'S NOT BEING SENSITIVE

OR REMORSEFUL OR CONSIDERATE,

THAT HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT
AND HE SIMPLY DOESN'T CARE.

SO HE SENT THIS TEXT
ON THE MORNING OF THE MURDERS.

AND HE SAYS,
"I HAD A NICE DREAM.

WE WERE MAKING COOKIES
TOGETHER."

HE'S SORT OF STARTING TO GO INTO
THE PHASE OF DOMESTICITY

AFTER, YOU KNOW, A MONTH
OF OBSESSIVE SEX TEXTS.

SHE CONSUMES HIM.

SHE CONSUMES HIS REALITY,
HIS DREAM LIFE, HIS FUTURE PLAN,

ANYTHING, ANYTHING
BUT HIS CURRENT LIFE

THAT FEELS DREARY
AND A DEAD END.

IT NEVER CROSSED MY MIND
TO LEAVE.

THERE WAS NO THOUGHT PROCESS,
IT WAS JUST...

KIND OF LIKE ANIMAL INSTINCT.

IT WAS JUST,
"TAKE THEM ALL OUT."

I'VE ALWAYS KEPT THINGS
TO MYSELF, I DON'T...

I DON'T SHARE MY FEELINGS
AND EMOTIONS WELL.

BECAUSE IF I HAD,
THEY'D STILL BE ALIVE,

I BELIEVE.

I MEAN, IF I COULD GO BACK
IN TIME AGAIN

AND STOP MYSELF FROM DOING
WHAT I DID,

EVEN IF IT MEANT KILLING MYSELF
JUST SO THEY WOULD LIVE,

I WOULD DO IT.

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YOU CAN'T PUT THE FEELINGS
THAT YOU'RE FEELING

INTO WORDS EITHER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT
THROUGH HIS MIND.

Woman: HE'LL GET WHAT'S COMING
TO HIM, I'M SURE.

AND I HOPE
IT'S TO THE FULL EXTENT.

AND WITH THE CONVERSATION
WE HAVE WITH HIS FAMILY,

THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY.

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I HAVE TWO POEMS THAT I WROTE
THAT I PLAN ON SAYING.

THEY'RE MY FINAL...

UH, MY LAST WORDS OR WHATEVER.

ONE I CALLED "THE CEMENT BOX."

AS I SIT IN THIS CEMENT BOX,
I GET LOST AMONGST MY THOUGHTS.

I THINK ABOUT THE TIMES
I'VE HAD

ALL THE GOOD, EVEN THE BAD.

I'M NOT SAD AND I'LL NOT CRY.

I'LL BE WITH JESUS WHEN I DIE.

I ENJOYED SPENDING TIME
WITH HER,

PLAYING WITH HER, WATCHING TV,

ESPECIALLY WATCHING CARTOONS
I WATCHED AS A KID,

LIKE "THE SMURFS"
OR "ALVIN AND THE CHIPMUNKS"

AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

TO HAVE HER ENJOY
WHAT I ENJOYED AS A CHILD

REALLY MEANT A LOT TO ME.

PSYCHOPATHS OFTEN HAVE
A CALLOUS LACK OF REGARD

FOR HUMANITY,
REGARDLESS OF THE AGE RANGE.

SOME INDIVIDUALS WILL SAY,

"WE'LL ACTUALLY DRAW LIMITS,
THOUGH,

AND SAY NO CHILDREN,"
BUT CERTAINLY FOR OTHERS,

THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE
A DISTINCTION.

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MR. HUMMEL SAYS,
"I FEEL A STRONG BOND WITH YOU

THAT I HAVE NEVER HAD
WITH ANYONE ELSE."

TO WHICH SHE REPLIED,
"NOT EVEN WITH YOUR WIFE?"

AND HE SAID NO.

AND SHE SAID,
"THEN WHY DID YOU MARRY HER?"

AND HIS RESPONSE WAS,

"I TRULY CANNOT THINK
OF A REASON EXCEPT FOR MY KID."

Raghavan: I THINK THE WHOLE
FAMILY UNIT FELT LIKE THE TRAP.

HE HARBORED RESENTMENT
AGAINST THE WHOLE UNIT

AND THAT WOULD JUST,

YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY GENERALIZE
TO THE DAUGHTER.

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I WAS OUT OF WORK FOR FOUR YEARS
BECAUSE OF MY BACK

AND COULDN'T DO NOTHING,

COULDN'T DO NOTHING
AROUND THE HOUSE.

I HAVE A FATHER-IN-LAW
WHO FEELS

THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO MORE
WHEN I CAN'T.

AND I TRY TO EXPLAIN THEM,

"YOU KNOW, I DO WHAT I CAN DO
WHEN I CAN DO IT."

THEN YOU GET TO THE FEELING
TO WHERE, YOU KNOW,

EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT.

AN ASTEROID COULD
STRIKE THE EARTH,

AND SOMEHOW THAT'S MY FAULT.

Morgan: I THINK HE DOES SEE
HIMSELF AS A VICTIM.

THERE'S ALSO THAT MOMENT WHEN
HE TALKS ABOUT THE ASTEROID.

DO YOU SEE THE LOOK ON HIS FACE?

YOU CAN SEE THE ANGER
RIGHT THERE.

Raghavan: IT FEELS LIKE
AS HE STARTS TO BROOD,

HE TAKES ON MORE
AND MORE QUALITIES

THAT WE WOULD SEE IN SOMEONE
WHO IS PSYCHOPATHIC.

HIS ATTENTION IS NARROWING
AND NARROWING

AND FOCUSING ON HIM
AND HIS PAIN AND HIS RAGE

AND THEN STARTING TO BLAME
THE WIFE AND THE DAD

FROM KEEPING HIM FROM
WHAT HE SEES AS THE SOLUTION.

THE SOLUTION, OF COURSE,
IN HIS HEAD

IS A MAGICAL SOLUTION.

HOW IS IT MAGICAL?

HIS WIFE WILL GO AWAY.
HIS BABY WILL GO AWAY.

HIS FATHER WILL GO AWAY.
THE HOUSE WILL GO AWAY.

EVERYTHING WILL BE WIPED CLEAN.

AND HE'LL START OVER
IN THIS FANTASY RELATIONSHIP

WHERE HE'LL FEEL LIKE
A MAN AGAIN

AND EVERYTHING WILL BE PERFECT.

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WHEN I DO SOMETHING RIGHT,
NO ONE REMEMBERS.

WHEN I DO SOMETHING WRONG,
NO ONE FORGETS.

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Hummel: I DON'T FEAR DEATH.

I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD
TO IT EITHER.

I KILLED MY WIFE, JOY.

I KILLED HER FATHER NEXT, EDDIE.

THEN I KILLED JODI.

WELL, IT'S LIKE --
IT WAS LIKE, UH...

...I DON'T KNOW.

KIND OF LIKE
ALMOST LIKE WATCHING A MOVIE,

THROUGH, LIKE, A FIRST-PERSON
POINT OF VIEW.

WELL, SEE, AT THE TIME
I COMMITTED THE CRIMES,

I WAS AN ATHEIST.

IT WAS LIKE I WAS CONTEMPLATING
TO KILL MY FAMILY,

AND THEN THE LAST --
LIKE THE LAST THOUGHT WAS,

"YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN GOD."

Tussey: I THINK HE IS USING
THE FACT THAT HE WAS AN ATHEIST

AS, YOU KNOW,
A WAY TO AVOID RESPONSIBILITY.

ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS
WE SEE SOMETIMES IN PSYCHOPATHS

IS FAILURE
TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY.

AND WHEN SOMEONE'S
FACING IMMINENT DEATH,

IT'S COMMON TO WANT
TO DO THAT.

AS ONE NOT GO TO YOUR GRAVE,
SO TO SPEAK,

FEELING GUILTY
ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

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WHILE I WAS SITTING IN COUNTY
AWAITING MY TRIAL,

I ACTUALLY PICKED UP THE BIBLE
FOR THE FIRST TIME

AND ACTUALLY READ IT FOR MYSELF
TO SEE WHAT IT SAID.

AND WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS,
I'M DOWN ON MY KNEES PRAYING

AND ASKING GOD FOR FORGIVENESS
AND TAKE -- TAKE ME BACK.

IF HE WAS TO LET ME OUT TODAY,

I WOULDN'T GET SO MUCH AS A FINE
FOR JAYWALKING OR LITTERING.

I'D BE A MODEL CITIZEN.

THEY'RE TRYING TO BE CHARMING
AND SUPERFICIAL,

AND THEY'LL SAY,
"YES, I'VE LEARNED.

I'VE CHANGED MY WAYS.
I'VE BEEN A MODEL PRISONER.

I'M SAFE TO GO OUT."

SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY
THEY CAN CHANGE.

IN MY EXPERIENCE,
I DON'T THINK THEY DO.

Hummel:
IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT MAN THINKS OF ME,

IT ONLY MATTERS
WHAT GOD THINKS OF ME.

GOD'S FORGIVEN ME
AND FORGOTTEN IT,

SO THAT'S ALL
THAT REALLY MATTERS.

Raghavan: HE'S JUST OVERLAID
ONE FANTASY WITH ANOTHER.

HE HAS NOT REALLY
TAKEN ACCOUNTABILITY.

HE'S STILL NOT ABLE TO FACE
WHAT HE DID,

AND BY DENYING
AND REPRESSING THE MEMORIES,

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE
THE HORROR OF HIS ACTIONS.

HE'S REPLACED HIS GUILT
AND SHAME

WITH SORT OF THIS
INSTANT FORGIVENESS BY JESUS.

Hummel: THE SECOND POEM
THAT I PLAN ON SAYING

DURING MY LAST WORDS
IS A KIND OF A PARODY

OF THE "NOW I LAY ME
DOWN TO SLEEP"

THAT THEY TEACH CHILDREN.

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A TEXAS DEATH-ROW INMATE

HAS BEEN GIVEN
A 60-DAY EXECUTION STAY

BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS.

JOHN WILLIAM HUMMEL

WAS SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE
A LETHAL INJECTION TOMORROW

AFTER A TEXAS COURT
OF CRIMINAL APPEALS

HAD REJECTED ALL OF HIS GROUNDS
FOR APPEALS YESTERDAY.

HOWEVER, THEY DID AGREE
TO POSTPONE THE EXECUTION

BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES
REQUIRED.

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