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Hummel: IN ALL HONESTY,
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I HAVE NO PROBLEM
WITH THE DEATH PENALTY.
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I ACTUALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING
PUT TO DEATH FOR WHAT I DID.
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YOU GET TO THE FEELING
TO WHERE, YOU KNOW,
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EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT.
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AN ASTEROID COULD
STRIKE THE EARTH,
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AND SOMEHOW THAT'S MY FAULT.
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Man: THE THING INSIDE OF ME
IS LIKE THE APPETITE.
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IT'S LIKE A WOLF
THAT'S FEELING HUNGER.
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[ Dialing, ringing ]
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[ SIREN WAILING ]
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[ EXPLOSION ]
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Officer: WHOO!
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[ SIREN WAILING ]
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HE'S NOT STANDING THERE
SPEECHLESS,
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LIKE SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE
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OR FRANTICALLY SAYING,
"GET MY FAMILY! HELP ME!"
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IT'S ODD THAT SOMEONE
WOULD HAVE THIS AFFECT
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AS THEY'RE WATCHING
THEIR OWN HOUSE BURN,
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PRESUMABLY WITH
THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN IT.
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HE SEEMS TO HAVE NO EMOTIONAL
RECOGNITION OR APPRECIATION
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FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN FRONT OF HIM.
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PSYCHOPATHS GENERALLY
HAVE A PRETTY HIGH BAR
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FOR EXPERIENCING FEAR.
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SO LET'S SAY THE AVERAGE PERSON
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WOULD GET AN ADRENALINE RUSH
OR FEEL AFRAID
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BY WATCHING A SCARY MOVIE
OR GOING ON A ROLLER COASTER.
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THESE KIND
OF "NORMAL" EXPERIENCES
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WOULD NOT REALLY ELICIT
A REACTION FROM A PSYCHOPATH.
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SO THEY HAVE THESE SORT OF
CALLOUS, UNEMOTIONAL TRAITS
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THAT YOU DON'T SEE
IN ALL CRIMINALS.
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Reporter: A BURNT-OUT SHELL
OF A HOME NOW STANDS
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WHERE A FAMILY OF FOUR
ONCE LIVED.
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I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
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AS INVESTIGATORS
SIFT THROUGH THE ASHES
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AND ASSESS THE TRAGIC SCENE,
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FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS
GATHERED.
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AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE POINT OF ORIGIN IS,
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AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE
OF ORIGIN IS ON THE FIRE.
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HE DOESN'T EVEN ASK,
"WHO DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT?"
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YOU WOULD EXPECT TO FIND OUT
WHICH OF YOUR LOVED ONES
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HAS LIVED OR DIED.
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I THINK HE'S BUSY WORKING ON,
"WHAT SHOULD I SAY NEXT?
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WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT?"
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Raghavan:
IT HAS TO RING SOME ALARM BELLS.
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HE'S NOT SAD.
HE'S NOT DISTRAUGHT.
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IT WAS APPROXIMATELY THREE
MINUTES LATER IN THE INTERVIEW
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BEFORE HE ASKED,
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"WHO DID NOT MAKE IT
OUT OF THE BURNING HOUSE ALIVE?"
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Termini: A SUCCESSFUL PSYCHOPATH
DOES, OVER TIME,
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LEARN WHAT THEIR REACTION
SHOULD BE,
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AND THEY LEARN THAT
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS
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AND THEY DON'T HAVE
THAT REACTION,
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IT'S GONNA DRAW ATTENTION
TO THEM.
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Reporter #2:
POLICE SAY THREE BODIES, INCLUDING ONE OF A SMALL CHILD,
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WERE FOUND INSIDE
THIS FLAME-ENGULFED HOME
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EARLY THIS MORNING.
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FAMILY MEMBERS
IDENTIFIED THE VICTIMS
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AS 34-YEAR-OLD JOY HUMMEL
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AND HER 6-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER,
JODI.
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HUMMEL'S FATHER, EDDIE BEDFORD,
IS ALSO AMONG THE DECEASED.
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SHE JUST FOUND OUT SHE WAS
PREGNANT WITH HER SECOND BABY,
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AND SHE WAS SO EXCITED.
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AT THIS POINT,
WE SHOULDN'T BE SUSPICIOUS
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BECAUSE I'M SURE HE'S HURTING,
JUST LIKE WE ALL ARE.
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NOBODY'S TOLD US ANY REASON
TO BE SUSPICIOUS.
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WE JUST WANT HIM TO COME HOME
SO HE CAN HEAL WITH US
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AND WE CAN HELP HIM HEAL.
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Morgan: WE SEE THAT LYING
COMES VERY EASY TO PSYCHOPATHS.
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WE DO TEND TO ASSOCIATE LYING
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WITH ANXIETY
AND EMOTIONAL DISCOMFORT.
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PEOPLE WHO HAVE PSYCHOPATHY
DON'T FEEL THAT.
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THEY DO NOT FEEL
A SENSE OF GUILT OR SHAME.
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Berrill: THE PERSON DOING
THE EXAMINATION OR INTERROGATION
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IS MAKING THE ASSUMPTION
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THAT HE'S CAPABLE OF GUILT
AND HE'S CAPABLE OF EMPATHY.
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AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING
WHO HE IS.
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[ SOBBING ]
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Detective:
YOU CAN LET IT OUT.
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[ SOBBING ]
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[ SOBBING CONTINUES ]
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[ SOBBING ]
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Tussey: HE'S CRYING, IT APPEARS,
IN THE VIDEO.
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IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL
IF THERE ARE ACTUALLY
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ANY REAL TEARS
THAT ARE BEING SHED.
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I THINK IT'S VERY POSSIBLE
THAT THIS IS A CALCULATED MOVE
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TO SHOW THEM THE EMOTION
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THAT HE THINKS
THAT HE SHOULD BE SHOWING.
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Reporter #3: POLICE CHIEF
TOMMY WILLIAMS
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SAYS THE FAMILY FILED
A MISSING PERSONS REPORT
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OVER THE WEEKEND.
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Woman: IT MADE ME FEEL MAD
BECAUSE AT THIS WHOLE POINT,
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MY FAMILY WAS -- THOUGHT
HE WAS A VICTIM HERE, TOO.
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Reporter #3: THE TARRANT COUNTY
MEDICAL EXAMINER
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RULED LATE TODAY THE JOY HUMMEL,
HER FATHER, CLYDE BEDFORD,
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AND HER 6-YEAR OLD DAUGHTER,
JODI, WERE ALL KILLED
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BEFORE LAST FRIDAY'S FIRE.
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JOY WAS APPARENTLY STABBED
TO DEATH
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WHILE CLYDE AND JOY
WERE APPARENTLY BEATEN TO DEATH.
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Man:
AND IT'S STILL HARD TO BELIEVE
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SOMEBODY COULD DO THAT
TO THEIR OWN CHILD.
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HE REMAINS REALLY
NUMB AND UNEMOTIONAL
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AND IS THINKING OF IT
IN TERMS OF STRATEGY.
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"I HAD DIFFERENT CHOICES.
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WHY DID I TAKE
SUCH A STUPID CHOICE?"
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NOT, "WHY DID I DO
SUCH A HORRIBLE THING?"
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AND THAT IS WHY THIS WOMAN
BECOMES SO IMPORTANT.
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SHE BECOMES HIS FANTASY FIGURE
WHO MAKES HIM FEEL MASCULINE.
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I THINK HE BUILT
THIS ALTERNATE REALITY
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WHERE, YOU KNOW, HE'S FILLED
WITH SORT OF MAGICAL THINKING
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AND HE WANTS A MAGICAL SOLUTION.
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AND, YOU KNOW,
THAT MEANS HE WAVES A WAND
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AND ALL HIS TROUBLES GO AWAY.
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I DON'T FEAR DEATH.
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I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD
TO IT EITHER.
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WHEN I DO SOMETHING RIGHT,
NO ONE REMEMBERS.
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WHEN I DO SOMETHING WRONG,
NO ONE FORGETS.
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Detective #2: OKAY.
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OKAY.
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TELL ME...
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Morgan: WHEN HE SAYS,
"I KNOW IT WAS WRONG,"
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IT'S MORE ACKNOWLEDGING IT'S NOT
SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
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OR I ACKNOWLEDGE
IT WAS ILLEGAL.
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Termini: PSYCHOPATHS,
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THEY UNDERSTAND
THAT IF THEY DO SOMETHING,
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IT'S AGAINST THE LAW
OR IT'S IMMORAL.
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THEY JUST DON'T
NECESSARILY CARE.
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OKAY. OKAY.
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Termini: IT'S KIND OF THIS
COMMON DENOMINATOR
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THAT EVERYBODY FEELS BAD
WHEN A CHILD IS HARMED.
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PEOPLE WITH A FULL RANGE
OF EMOTIONS
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ARE GOING TO FEEL BAD,
EXCEPT A PSYCHOPATH.
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THEY'RE PSYCHOPATHIC TENDENCIES
APPLY TO EVERYBODY.
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SO NOT JUST TO ADULTS,
BUT TO CHILDREN.
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Hummel: TESTING, TESTING,
ONE, TWO, THREE.
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IS THAT GOOD?
YOU CAN HEAR ME?
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YEAH, I MEAN, PEOPLE WANT
TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.
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SOMETIMES
THERE'S NOT AN EXPLANATION.
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SOMETIMES THINGS JUST HAPPEN.
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THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON
TO IT.
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