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YES, I HAVE TEARS COMING DOWN MY FACE.

'CAUSE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU WIPE YOUR NOSE OR WIPE AN EYE.

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Reporter: AN UNTHINKABLE TRAGEDY UNFOLDING RIGHT NOW

AT SOUTHWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL IN MIAMI-DADE.

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Man: THERE'S A THING INSIDE OF ME, IT'S LIKE...

THE APPETITE.

IT'S LIKE A WOLF THAT'S...

FILLING...WITH HUNGER.

I FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT WHAT I DID.

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Raghavan: HIS TONE IS IN A DETACHED FACTUAL.

WHEN WE SPEAK WITH EMOTION IN OUR VOICE,

WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IS EXPRESSING HOW WE FEEL,

WHICH IS WHY THE VOICE IS

SO REFLECTIVE AND EXPRESSIVE AND MODULATES.

IF WE DON'T EXPERIENCE A RICHNESS OF EMOTIONS,

THEN OUR VOICE IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT FLAT

OR SOMEWHAT CONTROLLED.

Morgan: ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS

OF PSYCHOPATHY IS THAT THEY'RE MANIPULATIVE.

THEY HAVE A GOAL, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.

THEY DON'T SHARE IT WITH YOU NECESSARILY,

BUT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING THE ENVIRONMENT

AROUND THEM TO SEE HOW,

WHEN, AND IF IT PROVIDES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD

AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

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Raghavan: HIS JOURNAL IS REALLY INTERESTING.

YOU SEE HIM EXPLORING IDENTITIES

OF SERIAL KILLERS AND MASS MURDERERS.

HE STARTS TO MAKE PLANS, AND THEN THERE'S CLEAR FANTASIES

WHERE HE'S DRAWING HOW HE'D LIKE TO KILL HIS VICTIMS.

AT THE BOTTOM, HE'S WRITTEN, "WILL BECOME A SERIAL KILLER."

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[ BELL RINGS ]

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IF YOU'RE EGOCENTRIC, THEN YOU CAN

MANIPULATE THE REALITY AS YOU WANT,

FEED IT IN THE WAY THAT YOU WANT.

HE HAD A PLAN,

AND THE PLAN HAD AN ORDER TO IT,

AND... ANDRE DIDN'T BUY IT,

ANDRE DIDN'T TRUST HIM.

AND WHEN THE PLAN DIDN'T GO AS IT WORKED,

HE COULDN'T ADJUST IMMEDIATELY.

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THE ANTICIPATION OF THE KILLING

PROBABLY GAVE HIM INTENSE PLEASURE.

HE WANTS TO GET IT RIGHT,

AND GETTING IT RIGHT IS EXCITING.

THE ACTUAL PLANNING IS VERY EXCITING.

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Detective: YES.

Detective: YES.

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Raghavan: HE MIGHT BE GETTING MORE EXCITED AT

REMEMBERING WHAT HE DID AND RELIVING THE INCIDENT.

NOT ALL PSYCHOPATHS WANT TO TELL THEIR STORY.

THOSE ARE THE ONES WE DON'T CATCH.

AND THEN THERE'S THE SORT THAT HAVE MORE NARCISSISTIC, UM,

TRAITS WHO WANT WITNESSES, WHO WANT ADMIRATION, WHO WANT,

UM, PEOPLE TO SEE HOW SMART, HOW VIOLENT,

HOW CALLOUS, HOW SPECIAL THEY ARE.

Detective: OKAY.

Detective: RIGHT.

Morgan: WE SEE THAT LYING COMES VERY EASY TO PSYCHOPATHS.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE PSYCHOPATHY, THEY DO NOT

FEEL A SENSE OF GUILT OR SHAME.

THE LYING IS SIMPLY IN THE SERVICE OF

STILL GETTING YOU TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.

THAT'S A VERY SLICK AUTOMATIC RESPONSE,

AND HE HAS NO INTENTION OF NOT KILLING HIM.

HE HAS NO INTENTION OF LETTING HIM LIVE,

BUT HE FIGURES THAT WILL PROBABLY KEEP HIM

FROM PANICKING.

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Detective: OKAY.

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Hernandez: YES.

Detective: OKAY.

HE'S BECOMING MORE ANIMATED AS HE SPEEDS UP,

AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT.

Raghavan: HE MIGHT BE GETTING MORE EXCITED AT REMEMBERING

WHAT HE DID AND RELIVING THE INCIDENT,

BECAUSE THAT MOMENT IS JUST INTOXICATING.

IT'S EXHILARATING, AND HERNANDEZ

DIDN'T EXPECT TO FEEL THAT EXCITED

OR THAT ALIVE.

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HE HAS NO EMPATHY, THEREFORE HE HAS NO LOYALTY,

AND HE HAS NO ATTACHMENT.

SO HE WAS SIMPLY SOMEONE THAT HE FELT

HE COULD SUCCESSFULLY DOMINATE AND KILL.

HE BELIEVES WHAT HE'S DOING IS RIGHT,

BUT HE KNOWS IT'S LEGALLY WRONG.

WE'RE ALL ADHERING TO RULES OF

MORALITY AND A MORAL VALUE TO SOMETHING,

AND HE'S SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S NOT MY RULE.

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Reporter: IN THE COURTROOM TODAY,

MICHAEL HERNANDEZ, NOW 17, THE ACCUSED KILLER.

YOU TOOK HIS LIFE -- WHY, MICHAEL?

WHY? HE WAS YOUR FRIEND, MICHAEL.

HE WAS YOUR FRIEND.

Reporter: THE STATE TOLD JURORS THE MURDER WAS CARRIED OUT

BY A 14-YEAR-OLD

WHO KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG, BECAUSE HE TRIED

HIDING THE CRIME.

Man: THE DEFENDANT IS GUILTY OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER AS CHARGED.

Reporter: WITH THAT VERDICT, MICHAEL HERNANDEZ SAT

SILENT, EMOTIONLESS,

STARING STRAIGHT AT A JURY THAT JUST SEND HIM TO PRISON

FOR LIFE.

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WHAT WAS STUPID WAS YOU DIDN'T THINK

THAT I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO YOUR CALLS.

I FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT WHAT I DID.

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AND IT HURTS ME HOW -- HOW SENSELESS IT WAS,

BECAUSE HE WAS ALWAYS SUCH A GOOD FRIEND TO ME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY TEARS COMING DOWN YOUR FACE?

YES, I HAVE TEARS COMING DOWN MY FACE.

BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU WIPE YOUR NOSE OR WIPE AN EYE.

Morgan: I THINK HE'S FEELING ANNOYED -- SHE'S POKING AT HIM.

SHE'S SAYING, "YOU'RE LYING,"

AND I THINK HE PROBABLY THINKS HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF

TRYING TO SOUND SORRY.

I MEAN, THAT IS ONE DIFFICULTY

THAT PSYCHOPATHS REALLY CAN'T APPRECIATE.

SINCE THEY HAVE NO EMPATHY,

THEY OFTEN CAN'T APPRECIATE HOW THEY'RE PERCEIVED,

BECAUSE THEY'RE -- THEY'RE -- THEY'RE SHALLOW AFFECT,

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'D CALL HIS ATTEMPT AT CRYING.

IT'S GOT THE FORM OF IT, BUT THERE'S NO FEELING.

I DON'T THINK HE BELIEVES IT'S WRONG,

BUT HE'S LEARNED HOW TO SAY IT OVER THE YEARS

THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG.

THE FACADE THAT YOU SEE

IS NOT THE FACADE THAT HE IS.

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Girlfriend: YEAH.

[ GIRLFRIEND LAUGHING ]

Girlfriend: MM-HMM.

[ GIRLFRIEND LAUGHING ]

[ GIRLFRIEND LAUGHING ]

- GOT A PAPER CLIP IN THERE? - NO, MA'AM.

- GOT A KNIFE? - NO, MA'AM.

HOW'D YOU MUSTER UP THOSE TEARS?

I FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT WHAT I DID.

THE REMORSE YOU SHOW

BECAUSE YOU THINK, QUOTE, "THE JUDGE IS A PIECE [BLEEP]."

- RIGHT? - NO, MA'AM, I DON'T THINK THAT.

YOU SAID THAT, THOUGH, RIGHT?

I DID SAY IT, AND IT WAS A HORRIBLE, STUPID THING TO SAY.

WHAT WAS STUPID WAS YOU DIDN'T THINK

THAT I WAS SMART ENOUGH

TO LISTEN TO YOUR CALLS.

Morgan: HE DOESN'T EVEN APOLOGIZE TO THE JUDGE,

WHICH, YOU KNOW,

IF I SAID SOMETHING REALLY STUPID AND NOW I KNOW

THIS PERSON HAS DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY,

YOU MIGHT SAY, "I REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IT WAS -- IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL."

PEOPLE WHO HAVE PSYCHOPATHY DON'T FEEL THAT.

THEY DO NOT FEEL A SENSE OF GUILT OR SHAME.

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SO I THINK THAT EXCHANGE IS REALLY TELLING THAT

HE -- HE DOESN'T GET IT, AND SHE'S JOKING ABOUT IT,

BUT HE'S BEING SERIOUS.

IT'S NOT THE BEHAVIOR WE'D EXPECT TO SEE

WITH SOMEONE IF THEY HAD GENUINELY CHANGED.

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[ GIRLFRIEND LAUGHING ]

HE'S HOPING SOMEONE WILL MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT HIM.

I'M COMPELLED TO REACH A CONCLUSION

THAT I NEVER WANTED TO REACH,

AND THAT CONCLUSION IS THAT THE DEFENDANT,

MICHAEL HERNANDEZ, TODAY IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME KIND OF

PERSON HE WAS IN 2004 -- ACCORDINGLY,

THE COURT ADJUDICATES THE DEFENDANT GUILTY OF

THE FIRST-DEGREE MURDER OF JAMIE GOUGH

AND SENTENCES HIM TO LIFE IN PRISON.

Man: THIS WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TERRIFYING,

BECAUSE LOOK AT HIM, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS AGO,

AND HE HASN'T CHANGED.

HE HAS NOT CHANGED.

HE'S THERE AND THE SAME WAY OR WORSE.

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