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Woman: STATE POLICE SAY
THE BODIES OF THREE WOMEN
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WERE FOUND AT THE BLACK BEAR
INN IN NEWRY.
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THEY APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN
SHOT TO DEATH.
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THIS IS A PARTICULARLY
GRUESOME, UH,
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UNUSUAL TYPE OF CRIME.
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Woman: POLICE SAY 31-YEAR-OLD
CHRISTIAN NIELSEN
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IS THEIR ONLY SUSPECT.
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Man: WE ARE ROLLING.
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[ FOOTSTEPS ]
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[ SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY ]
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Detective: OKAY.
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UH...
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- DID HE SEE THE GUN?
- Detective: YEAH.
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NO.
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Man: THERE'S A THING INSIDE
OF ME, IT'S LIKE...
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THE APPETITE.
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IT'S LIKE A WOLF THAT'S...
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FILLING...WITH HUNGER.
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Detective:
SO THEN WHERE DO YOU GO?
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[ FOOTSTEPS ]
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I SAID I HAVE TO --
I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.
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YOU KNOW, I SORT OF STOOD UP,
I SAID, "OH, I GOTTA GO
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- TO THE BATHROOM HERE."
- Detective: YEAH.
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AND HE SAID, "UH-HUH."
[ SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY ]
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Nielsen: I HAD BUMMED
A CIGARETTE FROM HIM.
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WHEN HE WAS JUST ABOUT DONE
WITH HIS CIGARETTE,
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I STOOD UP,
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AND I TURNED AROUND,
AND I WALKED BEHIND HIM,
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AND I SHOT HIM.
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[ GUNSHOT BLASTS ]
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FROM A PSYCH STANDPOINT, I LOOK
FOR WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE
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PSYCHOMOTOR AGITATION,
SORT OF IS HE RESTLESS,
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IS HE FIDGETING?
IS HE UNCOMFORTABLE?
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BUT IT GIVES US A SIGN
THAT THERE'S MORE
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GOING ON IN HIS HEAD
THAN WHAT HE'S SAYING.
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BUT HE DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WAY.
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FROM HIS BODY LANGUAGE
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AND THE WAY HE'S DESCRIBING
HIS ACTION,
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HE'S INDIFFERENT TO ACTUALLY
THE CONTENT
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OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
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I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS
NECESSARILY ABOUT JIM.
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THIS WAS SOMETHING
HE WAS GONNA DO REGARDLESS.
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YOU UNDERSTAND
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KILL YOU
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BECAUSE THEY HATE YOU,
BUT YOU HAVE NO MEANING
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ULTIMATELY, TO A PSYCHOPATH --
IT'S LIKE AN OBJECT.
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YOU'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN
A COFFEE CUP OR THAN THAT TABLE.
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SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPERSONAL,
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BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S
SO SCARY ABOUT IT.
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HIS BODY WENT JUST LIKE THAT,
AND THEN I SHOT HIM AGAIN
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JUST TO MAKE SURE
THAT HE WAS DEAD,
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AND THEN, LIKE I SAID,
HE HAD A BIG TORSO, BUT...
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LITTLE LEGS, VERY TINY LEGS.
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Termini: JIM, CHRISTIAN'S FIRST
VICTIM, SUFFERED FROM POLIO,
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WHICH IS WHY HE DESCRIBES HIM
AS HAVING THE LEGS OF A CHILD.
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CHRISTIAN COULD HAVE SEEN JIM
AS SORT OF, UM, PRIME PREY.
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HE WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY
TO CHASE OR TO SORT OF
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HUNT DOWN,
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SO HE WAS KIND OF A GOOD
GATEWAY INTO MURDER.
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Detective: OKAY.
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Morgan: HE'S KEEPING
THE BRANCHES, YOU KNOW,
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FROM STRIKING HER, WHICH SEEMS
LIKE AN ACT OF KINDNESS.
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IT'S WHAT I WOULD CALL
SOMETHING THAT IS DUTIFUL.
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I THINK THAT'S,
UM, THAT'S
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PROBABLY THE UNDERPINNING
OF SUPERFICIAL CHARM.
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THEY ACTUALLY
DON'T HAVE THE FEELING
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THEY'RE TRYING
TO DEMONSTRATE.
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BUT SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE
THE GENUINE EMOTION
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THAT SHOULD GO WITH IT,
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THAT'S WHAT -- THAT'S WHAT GIVES
THE TERM SUPERFICIAL, RIGHT?
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Detective: YOU STOPPED HERE.
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Nielsen: IF YOU LOOK, I'M SURE,
TOMORROW, YOU'LL SEE BLOOD
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- HERE SOMEWHERE.
- Detective: OKAY.
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BACK...
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MAYBE BACK A BIT,
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BUT THERE'S BLOOD
ALL THROUGH HERE.
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- Detective: OKAY.
- THERE'S BLOOD
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ALL IN THAT TRAIL.
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AT THAT POINT,
I WAS JUST LIKE, HOO!
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SO I PUT THE GUN BACK
AT MY WAIST,
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AND MAYBE I SHOT HIM AGAIN,
I'M NOT SURE.
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AND THEN I SAID, "I GOTTA GO
TO WORK," AND I WENT TO WORK.
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- I WALKED BACK UP, AND...
- Detective: YOU LEFT HIM HERE.
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Nielsen: LEFT HIM HERE.
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Nielsen: I STARTED DIGGING --
MY INTENTIONS WERE TO
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DIG A GRAVE, BUT, UH...
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[ LAUGHS SHORTLY ]
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IT WOULD'VE BEEN SHALLOW.
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Detective: SO WHEN YOU FIRST
GOT OUT HERE, TOOK A SHOVEL OUT,
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AND STARTED DIGGING HERE.
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THESE DIMENSIONS RIGHT HERE --
YOU CAN SEE WHERE
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- I STARTED DIGGING.
- Detective: YEAH.
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HE ACTUALLY LAUGHS.
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YOU CAN HEAR HIM KIND OF
DOING THIS SING-SONG
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ALMOST LAUGHING VOICE.
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SOMEBODY -- I JUST FELT THAT
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
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Detective: YOU DIDN'T WANT TO
LEAVE HIM OUT IN THE OPEN.
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SHE'S PUSHING FOR A MORE
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SUBTLE UNDERSTANDING
OF WELL, YOU KNOW,
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WHAT WERE YOU FEELING?
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IT SEEMS TO THROW HIM
FOR A LOOP.
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SHE IS PUSHING FOR HIS FEELINGS,
AND HE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THEM.
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[ FIRE CRACKLING ]
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SO ANYWAY, FOR WHATEVER REASON,
I'M OUT HERE DIGGING A GRAVE.
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- Detective: OKAY.
- Nielsen: ALL RIGHT.
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Nielsen: UH...
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Woman: 50-YEAR-OLD JIMMY
WHITEHURST WAS FOUND
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IN A SHALLOW GRAVE.
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HE'D BEEN SHOT,
THEN HIS BODY BURNED.
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PSYCHOPATHS DO HAVE
LOWER IMPULSE CONTROL.
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THEIR DORSOLATERAL
PREFRONTAL CORTEX, IN MOST
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PSYCHOPATHS, IS SMALLER
THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON,
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AND THIS IS DIMINISHED
IN A PSYCHOPATH.
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CHRISTIAN DID NOT HAVE GREAT
IMPULSE CONTROL.
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I THINK
HE ENJOYED KILLING JIM,
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AND HE WANTED TO DO IT AGAIN,
SO HE DID.
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HE WAS DOING
COOK LINE WORK
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AND PROBABLY DIDN'T ATTRACT
ANYONE'S ATTENTION
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AS SOMEONE WHO WAS BIZARRE
OR SCARY OR INTIMIDATING,
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AND HE DOESN'T APPARENTLY, UM,
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ENGAGE IN ODD OR PECULIAR
OR WEIRD BEHAVIORS,
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HE WOULD'VE LOOKED LIKE
AN EVERYDAY INDIVIDUAL
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WHO WAS SMART.
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[ NIELSEN LAUGHING ]
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Termini: THIS IS AN ILLOGICAL
THING TO ASK HIM,
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IN HIS MIND -- WHY ARE YOU
EVEN ASKING ME THIS?
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WHY SHOULD I POSSIBLY CARE?
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PSYCHOPATHS GENERALLY WILL NOT
EXPERIENCE THESE EMOTIONS.
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Man: THOSE WHO KNOW CHRISTIAN
NIELSEN DESCRIBE HIM
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AS A BIT ODD,
QUIET AND HARDWORKING.
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I HEARD THE NEWS THIS MORNING,
AND I WAS LIKE,
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IS THAT THE SAME CHRISTIAN
THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH?
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Man: NIELSEN HAD BEEN WORKING AS
A COOK AT THE SUDBURY INN
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JUST DOWN THE ROAD
FROM THE MURDER SCENE
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WHERE HE HAD ALSO BEEN LIVING.
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Detective: OKAY.
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Detective: OKAY.
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Termini:
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT CHRISTIAN
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FELT BAD ABOUT KILLING THE DOG.
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ONE HALLMARK
THAT WE DO OFTEN SEE
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IN PSYCHOPATHS IS AN EARLY
ABUSE OF ANIMALS.
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IT'S, IN SOME WAYS, A PRACTICE
FOR WHAT THEY'RE EVENTUALLY
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GONNA DO,
BECAUSE THEY'RE LESS LIKELY
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TO GET CAUGHT FOR IT,
BECAUSE THE ANIMAL'S NOT GONNA
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TELL ANYBODY OR SAY ANYTHING,
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AND SO ANIMALS ARE OFTEN
KIND OF THE GATEWAY INTO, UM,
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SOME SORT OF AGGRESSION
OR VIOLENCE TOWARDS A PERSON.
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CHRISTIAN KILLING SELBY, UM,
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ESSENTIALLY WAS
ORPHANING HER CHILDREN.
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HER HUSBAND HAD DIED, AND SHE
HAD TWO CHILDREN AT HOME,
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SO BY KILLING HER,
THOSE CHILDREN NOW HAVE
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NO PARENTS --
THEY ALSO HAVE NO GRANDMOTHER,
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BECAUSE HE HAD ALREADY
KILLED HER,
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UM, BUT HE DOESN'T CARE.
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[ GUNSHOT BLASTS ]
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WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE TRANSCRIPTS
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OR THE SPEECH PATTERNS OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE PSYCHOPATHY,
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THEY DON'T USE METAPHOR
VERY OFTEN,
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THEY'RE VERY CONCRETE,
VERY DIRECT,
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AND THEY'RE SOMEWHAT CONFUSED
WHEN PEOPLE PUSH FOR
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THE MEANING OF FEELINGS
AND NUANCE,
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AND THEY SEEM TO BE
PERPLEXED -- TO HIM,
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IT MAKES NO SENSE.
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IT'S -- IT IS LIKE SPEAKING
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.
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HE'S, AGAIN,
ALMOST FRUSTRATED THAT
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SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
HIS LOGIC,
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LIKE, "HOW COULD
YOU ASK ME THAT?
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WHY WOULD I KILL HIM?
HE'S MY DAD."
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UM, WHEN WHY WOULDN'T
HE KILL HIM?
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HE KILLED FOUR OTHER PEOPLE
IN THE LAST 48 HOURS.
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HE ASSUMES THAT THE OTHER
PEOPLE ARE GONNA KIND OF FOLLOW
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HIS LOGIC AND FOLLOW HIS LINE
OF THINKING WHEN, IN FACT,
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HIS LINE THINKING IS
COMPLETELY DEVIANT.
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Woman: POLICE SAY 31-YEAR-OLD
CHRISTIAN NIELSEN CONFESSED TO
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THESE KILLINGS,
AND HE'S CHARGED
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WITH FOUR COUNTS OF MURDER.
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Woman:
WHAT HE DID IS WRONG.
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THERE WAS NO SENSE IN
DOING WHAT HE DID,
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AND THEN CAN'T
EXPLAIN YOURSELF? NO.
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I'M SORRY.
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I DO WANT TO AVOID A TRIAL
SIMPLY BECAUSE...
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THE OUTCOME WOULD BE GUILTY.
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I WISH HE WAS DEAD.
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Termini: YOU KNOW,
IN MANY OF THE PICTURES,
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HE LOOKS DIRECTLY AT
THE CAMERA AND SMILES.
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Morgan: HE IS SMIRKING,
BECAUSE HE'S AMUSED
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AT THE DEGREE TO WHICH
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EVERYONE IS FASCINATED
ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING
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IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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I THINK HE'S THE OUTSIDE
OBSERVER SAYING, HUH?
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LOOK AT ALL
THESE CRAZY HUMANS.
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HE'S AMUSED AND FASCINATED BY
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THESE STRANGE PEOPLE
IN THIS STRANGE WORLD WHO SEEM
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TO BE ALL STIRRED UP
ABOUT WHAT HE DID.
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