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Good evening-- A break today

in a high-profile
cold case murder

more than 30 years ago.

In June of 1988,

21-year-old
UNM student Althea Oakeley

was walking home from a party

when she was attacked
by a man with a knife near CNM,

stabbed multiple times
before her assailant ran off.

Then, in September of 1980,

13-year-old Stella Gonzales
was shot and killed.

The following summer,
July 16th, 1989,

18-year-old UNM
student Kaitlyn Arquette

was shot to death
as she was driving home.

The thing
inside of me, it's like...

the appetite,
it's like a wolf that's...

feeling...
the hunger.

53-year-old Paul Apodaca

showed up
to the UNM police station

claiming he had found God

and wanted to confess to crimes

he says he committed
decades ago.

This is not somebody
who just stormed

into a police station

and said,
"I've got to unburden myself--"

this is somebody who's picked up
on a probation violation.

He is homeless, has no money.

He's disconnected
from his family.

And I think those were
the driving forces behind

Apodaca confessing.

He has been in prison before.

One of the things we see

in individuals
who are psychopaths

is sometimes, what we call,
a parasitic lifestyle.

Meaning
that they're looking for ways

to live off of other people.

And his options, I think,

outside of prison
are very slim, if none.

But it's a choice
he's willing to make

to not have to take care
of himself anymore.

What we know about Apodaca

is that he has this long history
of violent sexual offenses.

He raped a 13-year-old.

So that early offense behavior,

followed by more assaults
and rapes,

indicate that this is a person

that has a history
of predatory behavior,

along with a lack of remorse
for his actions.

And in fact,
he recently assaulted his aunt.

He has a profound disregard

for the well-being
and rights of others.

He goes on this rant

about how he's seen
women treated badly,

how he had anger in his heart

and he had resentment
towards women,

but he's still putting
on the mask.

I don't think
that that's the real reason

why he committed these crimes.

When we think
of ritualistic killings,

we think that someone has to do

this particular
behavior in this specific way

in order to achieve
whatever satisfaction

they're looking for.

We have assault histories,

but then it graduates
to a knife,

and then it graduates
to a rifle.

He did this thing
because he wanted to do it.

2

This smile that Althea Oakeley
gives to Paul Apodaca

really triggers him.

Now, he says

that it's because
of his hatred to women--

How can you kill someone
who smiles at you?

But, when we look
at why sex offenders

commit the acts
that they commit,

there's often
a misinterpretation

of behaviors
being done by the victim.

And I think that the smile
gave Apodaca the belief

that he was free to do
whatever he wanted.

I think he was seeking revenge
in his mind

on all these women

who had not been receptive
to his overtures...

This is somebody who has been,

you know, exploiting women,
raping women before.

And for him,
it's just the next step.

He's followed the path

that so many other
sexual psychopaths

have followed in the past,

which is
Starting out with sex crimes

and progressing to murder.

He says
the psychology of why he did

what he did is complex.

And that he had never actually

thought about engaging
in this behavior.

But, when we look at him--

arms crossed, sitting back,

he's comfortable with describing
what it is that he did.

He wants us to believe
that it is more complex

because he believes
that it's more complex.

But the notion

that he hadn't considered
doing this

and that this is the first time
he has ever done this

without ever
having fantasized about this,

I think is just another lie

because the psychopath refuses

to ever tell the truth
about anything.

2
When Apodaca is talking about
the murder of Kaitlyn Arquette,

he is describing himself

going back
to see his own handiwork.

By doing that,
that just gives him

more of a sense
of power and control.

He's seeing the actual damage

he's done to somebody
after the fact.

And I think
that really highlights

his ability as a psychopath
to camouflage himself

and sort of put on this--
this mask of an innocent person

and be somebody he's not.

And that in turn
could also be feeding his ego.

The idea that someone
will give a false confession

is about notoriety.

He's trying to escape notoriety.

He's the psychopath
that doesn't want

his name in the paper.

I think, in the moment,

He's just doing
whatever feels right.

So he gives the number

thinking that, "Eventually
they're gonna come get me".

And when they never do,

"Well, I guess
I got away with it."

2
Apodaca's second murder

isn't as great of a story
for him to tell.

You know,
he shot her from a distance,

he didn't really have
the details in mind.

So he can't really
relive that experience,

which-- when a psychopath

is confessing to a murder
to police,

part of the excitement there

is just them reliving
the event in their mind

as they're going through it
with detectives.

And he can't
do that with Stella.

I think this is the element

of positive impression
management

that we often see
with psychopathy.

He wants to come across
as someone

whose, you know, shame and guilt
for everything that they did

has finally come to fruition

and they're here
for-- uh, for penance.

I don't think so.
But if this really was about...

accepting responsibility
for what you did,

you wouldn't have waited

until after you
abused your auntie

to get to that point.

From strangers to family members

is not a far leap
for the psychopath

because they only see
the relationship

in which they can get something

because of the parasitic
lifestyle

that the psychopath leads.

When anyone, in this case women,

somehow challenge Apodaca,

he'll do what he has to do
to maintain his masculinity.