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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,250 --> 00:00:02,920 Tonight on "Shark Tank"... 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,880 Wait. There's no crying in cooking. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,170 Do not try this at home. 4 00:00:06,170 --> 00:00:07,920 My organs were, like, falling out of my body. 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,340 Who's ready to pop some champagne? 6 00:00:09,340 --> 00:00:10,340 I own that business. 7 00:00:10,340 --> 00:00:12,170 How many have you sold? $2,000. 8 00:00:12,170 --> 00:00:14,470 Oi. That's nothing. 9 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:17,350 Last year, we actually lost $100,000. 10 00:00:17,350 --> 00:00:18,810 Oi. O'Leary: Oh! 11 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:20,140 What if I went in with Kevin? 12 00:00:20,140 --> 00:00:21,390 No, I don't want that, Lori. 13 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:23,020 Are you not human? 14 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:24,400 What's happening here? 15 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,860 That'll go down in "Shark Tank" history right there. 16 00:00:35,490 --> 00:00:37,530 First in the Tank are sisters 17 00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:41,200 seeking to share an old family recipe with the world. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,380 Hi, Sharks. I'm Casey. 19 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:50,630 And I'm Vanessa. 20 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:52,510 We're from Boston, Massachusetts. 21 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:54,260 And we're the two sisters behind... 22 00:00:54,260 --> 00:00:55,970 Jaju Pierogi! Jaju Pierogi! 23 00:00:55,970 --> 00:00:58,390 Today we're seeking $300,000 24 00:00:58,390 --> 00:01:01,350 for 8% equity in our company, Jaju Pierogi. 25 00:01:01,350 --> 00:01:02,520 Wow. 26 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Okay, I'm actually not a pierogi. 27 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:08,060 So, Sharks, do you know what our love language is? 28 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:09,320 It's pierogi. 29 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,400 Pierogi are Eastern European dumplings 30 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,820 traditionally made with potato, cheese, and dough, 31 00:01:13,820 --> 00:01:17,320 boiled... and fried in butter. 32 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:18,870 Growing up in western Massachusetts, 33 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:20,240 we always had pierogi 34 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,370 from our grandfather's deli in our freezer. 35 00:01:22,370 --> 00:01:24,040 There was no mac and cheese. 36 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,000 If we were hungry, grab pierogi and fry them up in some butter. 37 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,630 When we went off to college in Boston, 38 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:31,460 our mom would hand-deliver these same pierogi to our dorms, 39 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:32,710 and all of our friends would ask, 40 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:34,670 "Hey, where'd you get those?" 41 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:36,050 Inspired, we dusted off 42 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:37,930 our grandfather's handwritten recipes 43 00:01:37,930 --> 00:01:40,430 and got to work creating Jaju Pierogi. 44 00:01:40,430 --> 00:01:42,850 We use the same ingredients our grandfather used. 45 00:01:42,850 --> 00:01:45,770 Our dough tastes like it was rolled out on the kitchen table. 46 00:01:45,770 --> 00:01:48,690 Our pierogi are pre-boiled, flash frozen, 47 00:01:48,690 --> 00:01:50,270 and ready to eat in 10 minutes. 48 00:01:50,270 --> 00:01:52,980 They're great for families and individuals alike. 49 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:55,530 So, Sharks, who wants to come smell like butter with us? 50 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:58,490 And make pierogi a household staple? 51 00:01:58,490 --> 00:02:01,200 In front of you, you'll find our lineup of flavors-- 52 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,290 potato and cheese, sweet potato/caramelized onion, 53 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:06,660 jalapeño cheddar, loaded baked potato, 54 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:08,210 and kielbasa and red bell pepper, 55 00:02:08,210 --> 00:02:10,460 as well as with some sauerkraut and sour cream for dipping. 56 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:12,800 So, Vanessa, I'm Eastern European. 57 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,260 If I had-- If I was on my deathbed and God said to me, 58 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:21,180 "Robert, you can have one meal," it would be pierogies. 59 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:23,600 That's amazing. I grew up on pierogies. I grew up in Pittsburgh. 60 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,060 Pittsburgh, yes. We know! 61 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:28,060 Alright, here we go. 62 00:02:28,980 --> 00:02:31,480 Mmm! 63 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,280 This is a good pierogi. Wow! Yum. 64 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,780 Let me just tell you, 65 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:41,280 one of the beauties of pierogies is it's greasy and gooey. 66 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,330 This loaded baked potato is greasy and gooey. 67 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:44,830 It's so good. 68 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:46,750 Thanks. It has a lot of umami. 69 00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:49,500 Vanessa, why is it called Jaju? 70 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:51,330 It is not a not a Polish name. 71 00:02:51,330 --> 00:02:54,000 So "jaju" is the phonetic spelling of "grandfather." 72 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,670 So in Polish, 73 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:59,130 "jaju" is an affectionate way of saying "grandfather." 74 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:00,550 Is that your grandfather there? 75 00:03:00,550 --> 00:03:02,680 Yes, our grandfather is here. 76 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,850 So the whole inspiration for this business 77 00:03:04,850 --> 00:03:07,770 is that we grew up around his deli. 78 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:11,060 In 2016, we went back to the deli, 79 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:13,520 took our grandfather's handwritten notebook 80 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,610 with all the deli from like 1960 81 00:03:15,610 --> 00:03:17,610 and started tinkering around. That's so beautiful. 82 00:03:17,610 --> 00:03:18,690 And we didn't really know what to expect. 83 00:03:18,690 --> 00:03:19,950 The first market we went to, 84 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:22,360 we brought 40 boxes and we sold out in an hour. 85 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Wow. We were taking names, phone numbers, 86 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,040 addresses, like, trying to deliver. 87 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,080 But up until the end of last year, 88 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,540 I mean, it's still the two of us. 89 00:03:29,540 --> 00:03:31,460 So we're in 2,500 stores, and it's been the two of us. 90 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:32,670 Wow. You are? 91 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:34,210 No brokers, all of us. No brokers, nothing. 92 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:36,210 Oh, wow. That's an accomplishment. Good for you. 93 00:03:36,210 --> 00:03:37,710 O'Leary: Well, let me give you some good news, 94 00:03:37,710 --> 00:03:39,550 'cause I've done a lot of research in this space. 95 00:03:39,550 --> 00:03:42,340 Pot stickers, dumplings, pierogies 96 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:44,680 are the fastest-growing convenience food 97 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 in America right now, beating pizza growth. 98 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Yep. I invested in it into Brooklyn Dumplings. 99 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 When I saw the growth numbers, I couldn't believe it. 100 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,230 And you're in the frozen section? 101 00:03:53,230 --> 00:03:55,940 Yeah. And who are you in? Do you mind saying? 102 00:03:55,940 --> 00:03:57,780 So we're nationwide with Whole Foods, 103 00:03:57,780 --> 00:04:00,740 with Sprouts, and then we're in MOM's Organic. 104 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:02,780 We're in Harris Teeter. We're in Fresh Market. 105 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:06,580 Wow. Our sales this year will be $2.7 million. 106 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:07,990 Are you guys profitable with that? 107 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:11,160 So last year, we actually lost $100,000, 108 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,580 and we would have been profitable, 109 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:16,040 but we didn't negotiate for our contract 110 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,460 with a large grocery chain like we should have. 111 00:04:18,460 --> 00:04:20,920 We were very emotional about getting into the chain. 112 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,760 I knew middle of last year 113 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,340 that we were gonna run out of cash, 114 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:25,890 so I knew that that was the first time 115 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:26,970 we had to go raise money. 116 00:04:26,970 --> 00:04:28,180 Obviously, I had no idea how to do that, 117 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:29,640 but my back was against the wall. 118 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,600 So I felt like at the end of last year, 119 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,560 my organs were, like, falling out of my body 120 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,440 because cash flow's such a problem, 121 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,940 like, with food, right? 122 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:39,440 Like, you put-- You know. 123 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,320 You're growing and you're growing every year, 124 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,820 and then you have no money. And there's no money. 125 00:04:42,820 --> 00:04:45,530 Exactly. So last year, 126 00:04:45,530 --> 00:04:49,450 we raised $400,000 at a $2.25 million valuation. 127 00:04:49,450 --> 00:04:52,290 So you've given away about 20% of the business. 18%. 128 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:54,830 And, Vanessa, today your valuation is what? 129 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:55,960 $3.75 million. 130 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,460 $3.75 million in less than a year. 131 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:03,550 When we raised money, we were not national with Whole Foods. 132 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:06,640 We are officially national with Whole Foods. 133 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,470 And so we're projected to do $2.7 million, 134 00:05:09,470 --> 00:05:10,970 $2.8 million this year. 135 00:05:10,970 --> 00:05:14,230 We've been in Whole Foods for three weeks nationally, 136 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:17,440 and we are moving like between 12 and 15 bags, 137 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,230 just starting without any demos, nothing, a week. 138 00:05:21,230 --> 00:05:24,030 That's very high. Are you impressed by that? 139 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:25,530 Yeah, it's very solid, 140 00:05:25,530 --> 00:05:29,580 but I'm not sure that it justifies that $3.75 million. 141 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,830 Shark! Listen, guys, um, 142 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:34,870 I don't see it as the right business for me right now. 143 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:36,870 So I'm out. Thank you, Lori. 144 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:39,290 Per package, what does it cost you to make, 145 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:40,670 and what does it cost you to-- 146 00:05:40,670 --> 00:05:41,800 what do you sell it at wholesale? 147 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Okay, so for the retail bag, 148 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,880 it's $3.89 for the bag to make. 149 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,260 How many pierogies in it? 150 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:49,850 There's 12. Okay. 151 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,850 And then the cost to the distributor is $6.33. 152 00:05:53,850 --> 00:05:56,190 Wow. That's not great margins. 153 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:58,520 That's not great margins. What is the seller retail? 154 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,020 Suggested is $9.99 to $10.99. 155 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:02,690 That's your problem right there, isn't it? 156 00:06:02,690 --> 00:06:04,190 'Cause you don't have a lot of wiggle room. 157 00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:08,110 You need to knock off 35% off your manufacturing costs. 158 00:06:08,110 --> 00:06:09,570 This is a great product. I love them. 159 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:12,200 I ate too many of them. That's part of the problem. 160 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,580 I ballooned to 600 pounds. 161 00:06:13,580 --> 00:06:15,950 I have no willpower when it comes to stuff like this, 162 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:18,750 and I'd rather be a customer than an owner. 163 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:20,380 So for those reasons, I'm out. 164 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:23,090 Ladies, I'm gonna crown myself the Pierogi King. 165 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:24,880 Yes. I love them. 166 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,550 Couldn't love them more. 167 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:29,720 Here's my offer. 168 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,390 If my fellow friend and Shark, the food king, 169 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:36,890 Daniel goes in and he wants me as a partner, 170 00:06:36,890 --> 00:06:38,230 I will go in with him. 171 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:41,440 So if you can talk him into it, I'll come along. 172 00:06:54,410 --> 00:06:56,290 Two Sharks are out. 173 00:06:56,290 --> 00:06:58,580 Robert is interested in Casey and Vanessa's 174 00:06:58,580 --> 00:07:01,170 frozen pierogi business, Jaju, 175 00:07:01,170 --> 00:07:02,880 but he wants to partner with Daniel 176 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,210 for his expertise in the food space. 177 00:07:06,210 --> 00:07:10,340 Guys, you got to talk Daniel into this deal. 178 00:07:10,340 --> 00:07:13,260 I am so excited about everything. Yes. 179 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:16,180 I just think we need a food guy in this. 180 00:07:16,180 --> 00:07:17,890 Come on, Daniel. 181 00:07:17,890 --> 00:07:19,600 Do you need a food guy? When we heard that you were our guest Shark, 182 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,850 I, like, cried. 183 00:07:20,850 --> 00:07:23,650 I've always admired and wanted to work with you. 184 00:07:23,650 --> 00:07:24,900 Keep going, keep going. 185 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:27,360 And, like, yeah, I watched you from afar 186 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,030 and, like, what you did with Kind and then Somos 187 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:32,660 and, like, the energy with that. Robert, I think you do this deal with them, 188 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:33,950 and we will find a way 189 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:35,990 to cooperate together and introduce them. 190 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:37,830 And then if it makes sense, we join forces. 191 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:40,370 And if not-- My friend. 192 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:43,170 Mi amigo. 193 00:07:43,170 --> 00:07:45,630 They cried their heart out. 194 00:07:45,630 --> 00:07:47,880 Are you not human? 195 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,260 Did you watch the episode last season 196 00:07:50,260 --> 00:07:51,800 where I did a deal with Toast-It? 197 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,890 Yes. Yes. Yeah. 198 00:07:52,890 --> 00:07:55,010 So it's a sister pair like you. 199 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:56,390 Yeah, for sure. In some ways, 200 00:07:56,390 --> 00:08:00,390 it'd be kind of fun to do the sisters frozen space. 201 00:08:00,390 --> 00:08:03,520 In other ways, I feel like it might be competitive because-- 202 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,940 No. 203 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:11,530 I really don't think it'd be fair to my partners at Toast-It 204 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:14,160 to do this without certainty 205 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,780 that it won't be seen by them as competitive. 206 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:19,200 We think you'd be a great partner, though. We do. 207 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,330 And it's tricky because I do think there could be synergies, 208 00:08:22,330 --> 00:08:24,000 but I am not sure. 209 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,880 So for those reasons, I think I'm out. 210 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,540 Alright. Okay. Thank you, thank you. 211 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:32,130 Ladies if Daniel's out, I'm out. 212 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,510 Alright, all pierogies lead to Mr. Wonderful. 213 00:08:36,510 --> 00:08:38,930 That's what happens. Here's my offer. 214 00:08:38,930 --> 00:08:42,940 Listen carefully to it, 'cause it's the only way I would do it. 215 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:46,360 I work with the largest co-packers 216 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,190 and distributors, number one. 217 00:08:48,190 --> 00:08:52,820 Number two... makes the most inexpensive 218 00:08:52,820 --> 00:08:55,860 pot stickers, dumplings, and pierogies. 219 00:08:55,860 --> 00:08:58,700 That's how you would get your costs down. 220 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:00,080 I own that business. 221 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,250 I bought it just to give me vertical strength 222 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,620 in Brooklyn Dumplings. Those are dumplings. 223 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:07,500 They're all the same. We'd add this to it. 224 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:10,800 I don't know how tied you are to Jaju or not, 225 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,170 but I'll give you the $300,000. 226 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:13,760 I want 20%. 227 00:09:16,010 --> 00:09:17,930 I have the distribution. I have the co-packer. 228 00:09:17,930 --> 00:09:19,680 I have the protein maker. 229 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:23,520 And I didn't bring up the fact that I do a lot of sales on QVC 230 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,270 as Chef Wonderful in this category. 231 00:09:25,270 --> 00:09:26,940 In fact, I own this category on QVC. 232 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:28,770 You don't own pierogies. 233 00:09:28,770 --> 00:09:30,820 They're all the same, pot stickers, pierogies. 234 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,150 Listen, you understand what I'm talking about. 235 00:09:33,150 --> 00:09:36,030 The manufacturing of this category of convenient food 236 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:38,450 is all done in the same mold factory, 237 00:09:38,450 --> 00:09:40,660 whether it's a pierogi, whether it's a pot sticker, 238 00:09:40,660 --> 00:09:42,410 whether it's a dumpling. 239 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:45,120 I have a question. What if I went in with Kevin? 240 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,920 No, I don't want that, Lori. 241 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Lori, will you make an offer on your own? 242 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,920 What if I went in with Kevin? 243 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 No. 244 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,380 So the offer that we have right now is-- 245 00:09:54,380 --> 00:09:55,920 because there's a lot of chatter-- 246 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,640 is the 20% for $300,000, 247 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,470 and then you want to take the production 248 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:01,970 to the place that you own? 249 00:10:01,970 --> 00:10:04,390 No, I want you to meet the management of Brooklyn Dumpling, 250 00:10:04,390 --> 00:10:07,480 and you decide which of the elements you're going to use. 251 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,020 He just poofed me away, right? I don't want to do the deal 252 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:11,480 unless you're using my infrastructure. Okay. 253 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Otherwise, what am I doing this for? 254 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,400 When you see the synergy of what they're building over there, 255 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,860 you'll realize, "Wait a second. 256 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:20,950 I want to get into the stores across America. 257 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:23,830 I want Walmart. I want Costco. I want it all." 258 00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:25,750 By the way, you've achieved something-- It's hard. 259 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:27,910 Was it 2,100 you have? 2,500. 260 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:30,000 That's nothing. 261 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,170 So because you're bringing us into the infrastructure, 262 00:10:32,170 --> 00:10:36,010 would you be willing to do $300,000 for 10%? 263 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:37,380 Why would I do that? 264 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:39,010 It's plug and play, right? 265 00:10:39,010 --> 00:10:41,680 You're adding us to the portfolio. I'm the only offer you have. 266 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,430 I appreciate it, but the answer's no. 267 00:10:44,430 --> 00:10:46,270 And, Robert, you're completely out? 268 00:10:46,270 --> 00:10:49,020 I can help you eat them. 269 00:10:49,020 --> 00:10:51,560 Sometimes it's really great to do deals with other Sharks, 270 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,360 but I have everything you need, everything. 271 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,820 What do you want to do? 272 00:10:56,820 --> 00:10:59,820 I think that, you know, you can speak to the numbers, 273 00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:04,870 but we think that our valuation is fair and that 20%-- 274 00:11:04,870 --> 00:11:07,250 And that's fine. 20% is too much for us to give up. 275 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:09,120 That's fine. 276 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,750 That's how we feel right now. Yeah. 277 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:11,960 Good for you guys. Good for you guys. 278 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,210 You guys are very impressive. 279 00:11:13,210 --> 00:11:14,380 And you will do great. Yeah. 280 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:15,800 Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you so much. 281 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,670 Congrats, guys. Thank you, ladies. 282 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:19,470 Thank you for sharing these with us. Good luck. They're amazing. 283 00:11:19,470 --> 00:11:20,800 Good luck. 284 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:24,510 We came in to make a deal, 285 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:28,230 but we know the value of the work we put into this business 286 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,560 and the value of the emotional connection 287 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,270 we have with our customers and the quality of our product. 288 00:11:33,270 --> 00:11:34,940 And we are confident we can move forward from here 289 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:36,570 and continue to build our business. 290 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:39,240 And maybe one of the Sharks will call us back one day and, 291 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,490 you know, regret not making that deal, so... 292 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:45,450 In Season 15, 293 00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:48,080 we watched Ashley Carson and her mother, Karen Walker, 294 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,620 make a deal with Lori Greiner 295 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:51,750 for their comfortable swim goggles company, 296 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:53,460 Splash Place Swim Goggles. 297 00:11:53,460 --> 00:11:55,790 Aiden and Jayla are having no problem 298 00:11:55,790 --> 00:11:57,300 putting on their swim goggles, 299 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:00,050 and there's simply no more pulling and tangling your hair. 300 00:12:00,050 --> 00:12:02,590 Let's see what they're up to now. 301 00:12:02,590 --> 00:12:05,260 The Sharks were really blown away with our sales 302 00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:07,560 and also the fact that we work with local women 303 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,680 in our community to assemble the goggles. 304 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:12,140 In the seven years before we pitched to the Sharks, 305 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:15,400 we had almost $7 million in lifetime sales. 306 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,440 And less than a week after "Shark Tank," 307 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,820 we brought in over $1 million in sales. 308 00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:22,780 It's been less than a year since we closed, 309 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:25,990 and we now have over $10 million in sales. 310 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:28,120 Splash Place Swim Goggles can now be found 311 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,080 in nearly all Scheels locations nationwide. 312 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,370 And we're soon launching in REI and Buc-ee's this year. 313 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:38,040 We're now in over 1,800 retail locations around the world, 314 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,880 including Iceland, the Middle East, and Australia. 315 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,880 You know, I just love the model. 316 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,300 Stay-at-home moms are helping make the product, 317 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:48,430 pack the product. 318 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:50,140 It gives them another job. 319 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:51,770 You're changing their lives. 320 00:12:51,770 --> 00:12:54,390 Our story's a little different than most. 321 00:12:54,390 --> 00:12:57,310 We don't have a college background, neither one of us. 322 00:12:57,310 --> 00:12:59,650 We both prioritize family life. 323 00:12:59,650 --> 00:13:03,320 So it was important for me to give women in our community 324 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,070 an opportunity to be able to provide 325 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:07,620 for their family, as well. 326 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:10,830 I was a stay-at-home mom, so working with so many of you 327 00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:14,210 that are also stay-at-home moms really meant a lot to me. 328 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:16,500 We're at the Wigwam Resort for a special dinner 329 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,340 to thank all the women who have helped us get to this point. 330 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:21,840 Tonight is the night to honor these women and to lift them up. 331 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,170 Thank you. 332 00:13:25,340 --> 00:13:28,010 We are so thankful to "Shark Tank," 333 00:13:28,010 --> 00:13:30,720 and we just want to encourage anybody out there 334 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,470 with an entrepreneurial spirit, 335 00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:35,020 if you have an idea, to just go for it, 336 00:13:35,020 --> 00:13:37,770 because you never know where it could take you. 337 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:54,660 Next up is a product that ensures you'll always have 338 00:13:54,660 --> 00:13:57,080 an essential accessory when you need it. 339 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:05,510 Howdy, Sharks. My name's Zak. 340 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:08,180 And I'm from a small town just outside of Dallas, Texas. 341 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,430 I'm seeking $350,000 342 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:14,140 in exchange for 15% of my company, Permaplug. 343 00:14:14,140 --> 00:14:15,810 Sharks, picture this. 344 00:14:15,810 --> 00:14:17,640 You get home from a long day of work. 345 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,060 You finally get comfy in bed or on the couch. 346 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:22,770 Your phone's on 1%, so you reach for your charger. 347 00:14:22,770 --> 00:14:25,030 Wait. Where is it? 348 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:27,700 It's missing again. 349 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,410 So what could you do to try to fix this? 350 00:14:30,410 --> 00:14:33,660 Maybe you could try a sticky note. 351 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:35,290 "Zak's charger. Do not move." 352 00:14:35,290 --> 00:14:37,460 Use extra-bold lettering and exclamation points 353 00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:39,960 to make sure that they know you're serious this time. 354 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,250 Maybe you could just buy dozens of cheap chargers 355 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,460 every few weeks and hope there's one around when you need it. 356 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:47,550 Maybe you could even try supergluing your charger 357 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:48,800 directly to the outlet. 358 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,550 I'm kidding. Do not try this at home. 359 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:52,850 But somehow, some way, that charger 360 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:56,520 will still end up getting borrowed but never returned. 361 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,980 This is a daily dilemma for millions, 362 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:03,440 but not for those who've been lucky enough to discover... 363 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,280 the Permaplug Charger Lock. 364 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,610 Permaplug Charger Lock is a proprietary, 365 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:09,280 fully patented locking system 366 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,990 that secures your charger and cables into place 367 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:15,080 so they can't be moved, stolen, or accidentally unplugged. 368 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,700 Let me show you how it works. 369 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:19,580 First, you'll simply remove your existing outlet cover, 370 00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:21,040 assemble your Permaplug system, 371 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,170 which includes the locking cover, a dual fast charger, 372 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:26,130 and up to two charging cables. 373 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:27,670 Then you'll place the Permaplug Charger Lock 374 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:29,590 directly on your upper outlet, 375 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:30,930 and then you'll screw it back in 376 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,590 using the included standard screw. 377 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:35,470 Or you can upgrade to a security screw for added protection. 378 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,900 And boom, start charging without ever worrying about your charger 379 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:44,400 or the cables growing legs and going missing again. 380 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,690 So, Zak, honey, sweetie, poopsie, baby. He's not done. 381 00:15:46,690 --> 00:15:48,650 Wait. Let him finish. Oh, you're not done? 382 00:15:48,650 --> 00:15:50,110 I know you're excited. I am too. 383 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:51,570 But we're almost there. 384 00:15:51,570 --> 00:15:54,450 Good answer, Zak. Poopsie baby. 385 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:56,870 Phones, headphones, tablets, and other devices 386 00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:58,540 are a crucial part of our everyday lives. 387 00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:00,040 They're not going anywhere. 388 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,960 Protecting the lifeline of these devices is a no-brainer. 389 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,380 So, Sharks, who's ready to secure your chargers 390 00:16:05,380 --> 00:16:07,460 and a deal with Permaplug? 391 00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,630 Good job. So, poopsie baby, the issue is, 392 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:11,840 this solves the problem in your home. 393 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,050 But if you're, like, in a hotel or on the road, 394 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:16,640 it's not really practical, right? 395 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,850 It's just for permanent. 396 00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:19,310 Unless you're the hotel. It depends. 397 00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:21,060 The hotel would be the one that purchases them from us, 398 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:22,560 and there is a ton of unique applications 399 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,900 in commercial settings, as well. 400 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,270 Oh, that's an interesting point. Yeah. 401 00:16:25,270 --> 00:16:27,860 So you're saying the hotel can then do that so that... 402 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:29,230 They'll provide it for their guests. 403 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:30,570 ...the guests don't take them away. 404 00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:32,650 Or even their staff in the background. 405 00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:34,070 Can't go ask the front desk for a charging cable. O'Leary: I want to be fair, Zak. 406 00:16:34,070 --> 00:16:36,910 I do not deserve to rip you to pieces if you have sales. 407 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:37,910 Okay. 408 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:39,370 Do you have any? 409 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:41,450 I do. I have about $2,000 in sales. 410 00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:43,290 Oi. $2,000, Zak? 411 00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:45,960 Okay, I am now going to rip you to pieces. $2,000 in sales so far today. 412 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,000 I have $456,000 in sales year to date. 413 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,170 Andale. 414 00:16:51,170 --> 00:16:53,550 That's a great answer. Oh, what a great comeback. 415 00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:55,550 That is a great answer. Thank you. 416 00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:58,100 That'll go down in "Shark Tank" history right there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. 417 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,600 How did you get $450,000 in sales? 418 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,180 I brought the sales in all myself. 419 00:17:02,180 --> 00:17:05,400 So I originally filed the patent for this in 2019. 420 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,440 So it goes all the way back, really, to whenever I was a kid. 421 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,570 I grew up with cousins. 422 00:17:08,570 --> 00:17:09,690 We all grew up on the same street. 423 00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:11,110 We always stole each other's chargers. 424 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:14,030 And then in 2019, I went and stayed at a friend's house, 425 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:16,870 and when I stayed at his house, I slept on his couch, 426 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:18,830 and I had my phone plugged in to his charger. 427 00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:22,330 It was superglued to his outlet, so light bulbs flipped, 428 00:17:22,330 --> 00:17:24,870 and I knew this was a good product and brought it to life. 429 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:28,590 This is for anybody that has one child or more. Right. 430 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:31,170 I got three teenagers. It happens by the minute. Yeah. 431 00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:32,920 Yeah. How are you selling it today? 432 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,420 The $450,000 sales-- 433 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:36,340 By the way, is that for the year? 434 00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:37,640 That's year to date. 435 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,720 I'm $665,000 lifetime, which is 12 months. 436 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,930 Wow. I launched last year. 437 00:17:40,930 --> 00:17:42,140 Who are you selling it to? 438 00:17:42,140 --> 00:17:43,350 Fully direct to consumer. 439 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:45,440 My customers range all over the place. 440 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,310 So parents tired of their kids moving the chargers, 441 00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:50,190 siblings, roommates, and a huge one right now is schools. 442 00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:51,780 They're buying them so they can charge the tablets 443 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:52,940 for their kids. All through social? 444 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:54,150 All through social media. 445 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:55,860 All on your website or Amazon? 446 00:17:55,860 --> 00:17:57,610 So Amazon's a huge channel for me, 447 00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,490 and I was resistant to doing that at first. 448 00:17:59,490 --> 00:18:01,990 But it's actually 60% of my revenue is Amazon now. 449 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:03,910 And I don't love that because I don't own the customer data. 450 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,290 You guys know how that is. 451 00:18:05,290 --> 00:18:07,120 But I incentivize people to try to buy on my website 452 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,170 with better pricing. 453 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:09,290 Are you buying a lot of ads? 454 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:10,920 Most of my marketing is organic. 455 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,960 I do have a retargeting funnel set up 456 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,760 so I can just retarget the people 457 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,340 that have engaged with my organic. Good for you. Yeah, good for you. 458 00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:17,880 So, and I have an SEO background. 459 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,720 So I built all of these automation tools 460 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,050 using automation and AI. 461 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:22,890 So, for instance, like, if I'm talking to somebody 462 00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:24,970 and they say, you know, 463 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:27,190 "What's the best Father's Day gift for 2024?" 464 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:29,480 I can text myself that, generate a blog post, 465 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,520 make sure Permaplug is number-one... I love that. 466 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,030 ...Father's Day present, 467 00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:35,860 automatically published on my site and indexed by Google. 468 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:38,530 I want to go back to this-- $350,000, 15%. 469 00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:40,110 What are you gonna do with the $350,000? 470 00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:42,160 I'll use it to help increase my float. 471 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,410 So I've got a decent amount of money in the bank, 472 00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:44,950 but I am playing cat and mouse a little bit 473 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:47,040 with inventory, buying, cash flow in the bank. 474 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,210 How much inventory do you have? What is a container? What's a container? 475 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:51,540 I have about $80,000 worth of inventory right now. 476 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:53,210 Wow, that's a lot. 477 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:54,380 That's my hard cost. 478 00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:56,090 But, I mean, I'm selling 15,000 units, 479 00:18:56,090 --> 00:18:57,510 so I'm moving them pretty quickly. 480 00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:59,760 You making any money on the $465,000 year to date? 481 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,640 Absolutely. My margin's around 58%. 482 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,970 So super-healthy margins. What did you put in your pocket, anything? 483 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:05,310 What does it cost, and what do you sell it for? 484 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:08,100 So I buy those for about $6.50 each 485 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,440 and I sell them for about $35 on average. 486 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,900 Do you know your customer acquisition cost 487 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,190 in the last few months? 488 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:14,400 They're less than 15 bucks 489 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,860 'cause I'm only doing warm retargeting. 490 00:19:15,860 --> 00:19:17,740 If they have not engaged intensely 491 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:19,990 with one of my organic videos, 492 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:21,780 then I'm not paying to advertise to them. So it costs you 15 bucks to acquire a customer. 493 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:23,450 And the average order size? 494 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:25,490 It's around $58. 495 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:27,750 Alright, look, I thought this was a joke. 496 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:29,040 I got to be honest with you, Zak. 497 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,540 Obviously, sales say no. 498 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:32,920 And you sound very credible. 499 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,590 So here's an offer for you. 500 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:36,550 I'll do the $350,000, 15%. 501 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:41,630 I want 2 bucks a unit in royalties in perpetuity. 502 00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:43,970 I'm curious who's on your team. 503 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:45,350 How much-- Just you? 504 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:47,100 One-man band. This is all me and my wife. 505 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,060 We have a 24-hour fulfillment promise notice. You and your wife. 506 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:51,560 We're up till midnight packing orders every single night. Doing everything. 507 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,270 It's your full-time job. Yep. 508 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:57,320 And do you have any debt? Do you own it 100%? 509 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,690 I own it 100%. Zero debt. 510 00:19:58,690 --> 00:20:00,360 So I am doing this full time now. 511 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,030 I'm living off of my savings for now. 512 00:20:02,030 --> 00:20:04,370 I don't plan to take any sort of profit or salary 513 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,410 from the company until 2025, 514 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:08,370 just to make sure that I have enough float for the company 515 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:09,750 and there's enough inventory 516 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:11,710 and I'm not fighting with paying myself for that. 517 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,540 So I've saved up enough from my job to live off of until then. 518 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:15,750 But I do plan on, you know, 519 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:17,380 obviously taking a modest salary next year. 520 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:18,710 Good for you, man. Thank you. 521 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:21,130 You know, everybody I meet wants to be successful, 522 00:20:21,130 --> 00:20:25,140 but so few people are willing to make the sacrifice 523 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:26,390 and pay the price. 524 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:28,140 We've made a ton of sacrifices, too, honestly. 525 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:29,930 Like, I mean, my wife especially, 526 00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:31,480 she's put in tons of work with me. 527 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,060 She doesn't have to do any of that. 528 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:35,190 She's got two full-time jobs, taking care of a 3 1/2-year-old 529 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,070 and a 2 1/2-month-old right now. 530 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,480 So she's out there grinding with me. 531 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,440 I'm here right now, and she's at home packing orders. 532 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,150 Zak, what's your reaction 533 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:44,660 to Mr. Wonderful's not-so-wonderful offer? 534 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:45,990 Well, I figured coming in here, 535 00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:47,950 I may get an offer something like that. 536 00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:49,830 I would not be open to a perpetuity deal, 537 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:51,830 but I would be open to giving a royalty to anybody, 538 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:53,460 for that matter, until your money's paid back 539 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,080 because I don't like borrowing money. 540 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,170 Zak, why is that interesting to an investor? 541 00:20:58,170 --> 00:21:00,300 Because I give you my money. I put it at risk. 542 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,840 I wait two and a half to three years to get it back. 543 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,010 I make nothing on it. 544 00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:06,340 Could be sitting in the bank making 5.24%. 545 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:10,350 The only other value is an exit on the value of the patent, 546 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:12,020 which may or may not play out. 547 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,770 So you're putting your largest investor at 100% risk. 548 00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:21,440 Well, I'll give you your $350,000 for 25%, no royalty. 549 00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:24,530 Okay. If you don't mind me asking, 550 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,030 what does that put the valuation at? 551 00:21:26,030 --> 00:21:27,780 $1.4 million. $1.4 million? Okay. 552 00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:28,990 O'Leary: He's doing $1.4 million. 553 00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:32,450 Zak, I have good news and I have bad news. 554 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:34,370 Okay. What do you want first? 555 00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:35,580 Ask for the bad news. 556 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:37,000 I'm a delayed-gratification type of guy, 557 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,500 so I'll go bad news first. 558 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:40,040 Always get the bad news first. 559 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,880 There you go. 560 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,050 I'm out. Always. 561 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:45,340 Want to know the good news? That's the good news? 562 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:46,880 Yes, ma'am. 563 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,890 I'm back in. Okay. Thank goodness. 564 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:50,510 My next question was gonna be-- 565 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:52,100 I had to do that to you for, like, 566 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,980 your whole what you did to us. Oh, yeah, the $2,000, yeah. 567 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:55,600 Yes, with the $2,000. That was a good one. 568 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,150 Okay. I thought you'd appreciate that. 569 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:02,230 I did. So I'm going to offer you $350,000. 570 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:05,650 I would like 20%. Okay. 571 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:08,910 And I'd like a royalty of $1 572 00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:11,580 until I get paid back my money. Okay, okay. 573 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:14,750 Because I think together, we'll be a powerhouse. 574 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,120 That's my offer. 575 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,870 Alright, that's a great offer. 576 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:19,920 What are you gonna do? Think about. Here's my thing. I'm like Kevin. 577 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,300 I didn't think it was real. I thought you were... 578 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,840 That is true. ...you were negligible at best. 579 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,180 But congratulations. Thank you. 580 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:29,590 You're doing great. 581 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:30,850 It's just not for me. 582 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:31,930 Yes, sir. I'm out. 583 00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:33,260 Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. 584 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:34,850 Yeah, Zak, I'm kind of in the same boat. 585 00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:38,310 Okay. It's a great product, but you know SEO already, 586 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,060 you know, maybe some cash flow things. 587 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:41,980 You've got this on lockdown and you know it, right? 588 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:44,190 I appreciate that. Thank you. And so, yeah, it's just not a fit for me. 589 00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:46,360 So for those reasons, I'm out. Okay. 590 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,490 You have three offers. 591 00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:48,650 She's got the best offer on the table. 592 00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:50,950 Well, no, she's not Mr. Wonderful. 593 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:52,080 What does that mean? 594 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,450 Well, it means what it is. 595 00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:55,080 I've done my research on all this and you guys. 596 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,200 I've watched this show. I have the best offer on the table. 597 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,290 I am also the best partner for you. 598 00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:01,750 I grew up not caring about being an athlete. 599 00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:03,000 I didn't look up to any athletes. 600 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,460 I didn't look up to any actors or anything. 601 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:06,050 I looked up to people like you guys. 602 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:07,590 So I know everything about all of you. 603 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:09,590 And I know what you've done with companies and you, 604 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:12,220 and everything you guys have all done is extremely motivational. 605 00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:13,470 It's inspirational. 606 00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:15,350 This is everything I've ever worked for. 607 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:17,680 Lori's offer is by far, I mean, in my opinion, just-- 608 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,520 I came here, my wife wants me to work with you. 609 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,810 So there you go. 610 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:22,480 I would love to close a deal with you, Lori. 611 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Thank you. Yay! Boom. 612 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,070 Congratulations. Congrats, Zak. 613 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:28,110 I love it. Thank you. 614 00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:30,700 I think it's so really good. Smart, smart, smart. I appreciate it. I am honored. 615 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,410 Thank you so much. Thank you. 616 00:23:32,410 --> 00:23:33,830 Thank you. We're gonna blow it up. 617 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:36,370 Thank you. There should be like five in every home. 618 00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:37,830 There will be with your help. In every single plug. 619 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:39,540 Good job. Thank you. Thank you all. 620 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:40,920 I appreciate all of your time. Thank you so much. Congrats. 621 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,750 Zak, great job. You're really impressive. 622 00:23:42,750 --> 00:23:44,210 Thank you. I appreciate you all. Good luck. 623 00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:46,840 Have a good one. 624 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,590 Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, God. 625 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:51,430 I just closed a deal with Lori. 626 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,340 I mean, that's exactly who I wanted to work with when I came in here. 627 00:23:53,340 --> 00:23:54,470 Lori has so much expertise. 628 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:56,350 She's blown up companies like Scrub Daddy 629 00:23:56,350 --> 00:23:58,850 and so many others that really just needed that initial push. 630 00:23:58,850 --> 00:24:00,560 And that's really all I need to get this out there. 631 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,350 I've reached a few million people on my own, 632 00:24:02,350 --> 00:24:04,690 but I know that she can help get that number way up higher. 633 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,370 Next into the Tank is a product designed 634 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:22,460 to blow away a common cooking hazard. 635 00:24:30,130 --> 00:24:32,050 Wait. There's no crying in cooking. 636 00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:35,050 Not if we have anything to say about it. 637 00:24:35,050 --> 00:24:36,760 Hey, Sharks. My name is Glenn Smith. 638 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,100 And I'm his daughter and business partner, Madison Smith. 639 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,600 And today we are here seeking $90,000 640 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,940 for 15% equity in our company. 641 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:47,570 Sharks, for generations, cooks around the world 642 00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:50,400 have sought relief from the infamous onion tears. 643 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,700 The burning, the itching, my eyes! 644 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,410 Cutting onions is painful, 645 00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:57,070 and we have tried all the hacks, 646 00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:59,790 and none of them have worked for us. 647 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:02,580 We have tried chewing on bread while cutting. 648 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,000 We've put a matchstick between our teeth. 649 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:15,090 And this guy has even worn yard goggles in the kitchen. 650 00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:16,430 And trust us, Sharks. 651 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,390 None of these hacks have worked for us, 652 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:20,060 which is why we invented... 653 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,020 the Fanion. The Fanion. 654 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:25,350 The Fanion is a countertop cute cordless fan 655 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:27,190 that is placed next to your cutting board 656 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:29,820 which simply blows away the fumes and vapors 657 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:32,570 of eye-irritating vegetables such as onions, 658 00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:35,570 shallots, peppers, garlic, et cetera. 659 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,320 You'll only cry tears of joy. 660 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,870 It really is that simple. 661 00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:40,080 So come on, Sharks. 662 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,620 Who's ready to chop it up with the Fanion? 663 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:44,540 And who's ready to be blown away? 664 00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:46,790 Now, Sharks, no need to get weepy. 665 00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:49,920 You each have a Fanion to blow those tears away. 666 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,210 So you have an onion, a knife, and a Fanion 667 00:25:52,210 --> 00:25:53,840 to really put this to the test. 668 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,420 Oh, wow. So there's a lever on the back 669 00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:59,140 that'll turn it on, and you can get to chopping. 670 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,970 And, Madison, do most people cry with onions? 671 00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:03,220 Yes. Yeah. I do. 672 00:26:03,220 --> 00:26:05,060 Now, why would you not? 673 00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:07,400 Like, I don't really often cry. I don't. I don't. 674 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Like, this doesn't sting me at all. Why would that be? 675 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,070 Really? I am told that if you wear contacts, 676 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,480 that can be something that-- I do wear contacts. 677 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,400 I wear contacts. If you wear contacts. 678 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,660 If you wear contacts, you're lucky. If you wear contacts, you're lucky. 679 00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:20,780 You know, a unique attribute about vampires-- 680 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:24,000 I'm a vampire-- we don't have to cry about onions. 681 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,660 We can cut any kind of vegetable no problem at all, 682 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:27,960 as long as it's dark outside. 683 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,710 Is this your full-time jobs? No. 684 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:32,960 And also, please tell us about you. 685 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,630 You go ahead. I am a vice president of a large U.S. poultry company. 686 00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:39,590 I buy feed ingredients to feed chickens. 687 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:40,970 And, Madison, what do you do? 688 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:42,350 After graduating from Georgia Tech, 689 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:43,640 I studied industrial engineering, 690 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,100 and I've worked in the technology 691 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,270 and supply chain spaces for about the last four years. 692 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:49,020 So this is a very simple product. 693 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,270 I get it. How much to buy it? 694 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:53,480 We sell them for $19.99 on our website. 695 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,070 And what does it cost you to make them? 696 00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:56,940 $8.09. Well, you know your numbers. 697 00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:58,610 How many do you sell? 698 00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:00,820 We launched in November. We just launched in November. 699 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:02,700 And? So about seven months. 700 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,490 We have sold almost 1,800. 701 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:06,040 We have $28,000 in sales. 702 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,620 That's not bad. Not bad at all. 703 00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:08,830 How are you guys promoting it? 704 00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:11,040 We've predominantly done social media. 705 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040 We've put a lot of money into running ads. 706 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,510 And how much money have you spent on advertising so far? 707 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:20,300 On advertising, about $17,000 to $18,000. 708 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,640 And how much money have you invested to get it to this? 709 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,260 $468,000. 710 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:26,390 Wow. Hello. 711 00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:28,310 That's a lot of crying over onions. 712 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:32,020 Where did you get the money to spend $468,000? 713 00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:33,770 Cash, credit, home equity. 714 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:34,610 How? What did you used to do? 715 00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:35,730 Home equity, too? 716 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:36,900 Home equity, as well. Correct. 717 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,400 Oi. O'Leary: Oh! 718 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,410 Whoa. But what did you spend that on for this? 719 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:43,410 Mostly inventory. 720 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:45,620 How much do you have in inventory at your cost? Inventory? 721 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,370 How much do you have in inventory at your cost? 722 00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:48,830 31,000 units. 723 00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:51,750 Oh, okay, so that's 250 grand, basically. Correct. 724 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:53,920 You got 31,000 units. 725 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,300 What is it costing you to acquire a customer right now? 726 00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:58,460 Do you know? 727 00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:00,260 How much did you spend on advertising 728 00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:02,590 divided by the number of units you've sold. 729 00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:05,140 So $17,000 divided by-- 730 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:07,100 Almost 1,800. Yeah. 731 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,520 Right. So about 10 bucks a unit. 732 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,930 Yeah. So you're breaking even, yeah. 733 00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:10,940 O'Leary: Okay, this is not a good number. 734 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:12,600 You're not making any money. 735 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,480 Right now you're losing some. 736 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,860 Yes. 737 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:19,690 What's the plan to sell the existing sunk inventory? 738 00:28:19,690 --> 00:28:22,820 That is why we are here, is that we need help with that. 739 00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:26,620 We really started trying to go 100% direct to consumer. 740 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:30,370 Over 10,000 Google searches happen every month 741 00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:32,750 of people searching how to stop crying while cutting onions. 742 00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:34,210 I mean, there's viral TikTok videos. 743 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:35,790 This is definitely-- And it works. 744 00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:37,130 We know that it works, 745 00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:38,670 and there's not a product out there like it. 746 00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:40,090 And everybody loves a kitchen gadget. 747 00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:41,840 I mean, come on. Yeah, but maybe there's a reason 748 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720 why there's not a product out there like it. 749 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,720 Look, guys, I give you a lot of credit 750 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640 for diving in and going for it, 751 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,980 but this is too niche a market, right? 752 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,310 Because when you limit it just to onions, 753 00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:54,940 that's too small, right? 754 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:58,150 And not a lot of people are gonna spend $19.95 755 00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:00,780 just to be able to do onions alone. 756 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,070 So for those reasons, I'm out. 757 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:03,570 Thank you, Mark. 758 00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:04,820 Here's the thing. 759 00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:06,490 It's something that happens all the time. 760 00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:08,280 I watch it with entrepreneurs. 761 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,240 You get so excited that you don't realize 762 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080 one of the most perilous pitfalls 763 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,660 when you first create a product 764 00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:16,920 is ordering in too much inventory without sales. 765 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,380 You've sold 1,800 in 8 months, give or take. 766 00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:22,720 You're sitting on 31,000. 767 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,890 This could take you 10 years or more, right, to sell it. 768 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,260 So what I think you should do, a suggestion, 769 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:32,680 is sell it to someone at your cost just to break even 770 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,140 but to get money back, 771 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:37,100 'cause you don't want to sit on that big of an expense. 772 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,730 It's not a journey that I want to take 773 00:29:39,730 --> 00:29:42,860 'cause I know it's a rough road. 774 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:45,700 But I wish you good luck. I hope you try that. 775 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,950 I'm sorry. I'm out. 776 00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:51,660 You got a bunch of money tied up in inventory here, 250 grand. 777 00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:53,870 So if you sold these things at $9.99, 778 00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:55,210 you'd get half your money back 779 00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:57,960 and you'd say the other was a lesson in life. 780 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,340 31,000 units, that's worth crying about, not the onion. 781 00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:04,630 I can't help you because I can't help you. 782 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800 I'm out. 783 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,890 All my friends that have never started a business, 784 00:30:09,890 --> 00:30:11,720 they think that starting a business 785 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,600 is like standing on the edge of a cliff, 786 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,980 ordering 30,000 units, and jumping into the water. 787 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:20,270 Great entrepreneurs learn about controlled risk. 788 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:23,940 You never want to make a mistake that's gonna kill you. 789 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:27,950 It's very hard to come back from the dead. 790 00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:30,030 Kevin's done it, but very few. 791 00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:31,780 And by the way, it works. 792 00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:34,250 You made a big risk, and now you're stuck with it. 793 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,370 You got to get rid of that inventory. 794 00:30:36,370 --> 00:30:38,120 There is no, "We're gonna grow our market. 795 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,540 We're gonna sell it here." 796 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,340 Get rid of the inventory that you have, even at a loss, 797 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,090 even if you get 50 cents on the dollar. 798 00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:47,510 I disagree. They're being very melodramatic. 799 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:49,390 No, they got to rid of-- O'Leary: Are you in again? 800 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:51,680 It's not dramatic. They took a line of credit on their house to get here. 801 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,770 Okay, welcome to the Onion Advice Tank. 802 00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:57,850 It's not for me 'cause it's not investable. 803 00:30:57,850 --> 00:30:59,310 I hope you get some of that cash back. 804 00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:00,440 I'm out. 805 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Glenn and Madison, 806 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,360 I love the fact that you're working together. 807 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,610 My daughter's here watching "Shark Tank" today. Yeah, I love that. 808 00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:09,450 And it's such a special thing. 809 00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,450 It's the most important thing in the world, 810 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:14,410 'cause my dad is no longer here with me 811 00:31:14,410 --> 00:31:17,040 and I wish he was around and I just miss him. 812 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,330 And I love the fact that you guys 813 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:20,460 can have this journey together. 814 00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:21,830 Aw. 815 00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:24,750 I wish you the best of luck, but I'm out. 816 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,460 Thank you very much. Good luck, you guys. 817 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,130 Thank y'all so much. Madison, you're great. Take care. 818 00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:29,380 It was nice meeting you all. 819 00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:30,590 Good luck, guys. I hope you make it work. 820 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:32,800 Good luck. Get some of that cash back. 821 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680 There's an onion. There's an onion. 822 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,690 Onions everywhere. 823 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:41,230 Come here. 824 00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:43,810 The message that we just heard was, "Get rid of them. 825 00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:46,530 Cut your losses and go home." 826 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:49,450 And, you know, if that's the way it ultimately comes down 827 00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:51,610 and that's what happens, it won't be for lack of trying, 828 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:52,910 but I'm not gonna punt. 829 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,840 Next into the Tank is a stylish upgrade 830 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840 to an everyday appliance. 831 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,220 Hi, Sharks. I'm Alyse. 832 00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:20,390 And I'm Sam. 833 00:32:20,390 --> 00:32:22,480 And we're seeking $600,000 834 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,900 for 3% of our company, Rocco. Wow. 835 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,230 Actually, Sam, before we get started, I'm a little thirsty. 836 00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:29,610 Why don't you just go grab a drink 837 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:31,030 from my kitchen fridge over there? 838 00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:32,950 One second, Sharks. I'm so sorry. 839 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:34,530 There should be a soda in there. 840 00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:36,950 You might just have to dig a little bit. 841 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:39,290 Oh. Oh. 842 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:41,500 Oh! Sam. I hate it when that happens. 843 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,370 I can't find anything in here. 844 00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:44,920 There's leftovers. There's produce. 845 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Where's the drinks? 846 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,420 I think it should be behind the lasagna 847 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,090 or the pizza box, maybe. 848 00:32:49,090 --> 00:32:50,340 No. 849 00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:53,130 Oh. That's embarrassing. 850 00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:56,640 Sharks, as you can see, kitchen fridges are crowded. 851 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,890 They're cluttered. They're just plain chaotic. 852 00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:02,520 That's why we created the Rocco Super Smart Drinks Fridge. 853 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,850 It's designed as furniture 854 00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:06,190 so you can keep all of your favorite drinks 855 00:33:06,190 --> 00:33:07,900 away from those leftovers. 856 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,030 And where you actually drink them-- in the living room. 857 00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:14,740 You might be thinking, "Eh, this is just another wine fridge." 858 00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:17,910 Sorry, Mr. Wonderful, but nobody just drinks wine anymore. 859 00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:20,290 We created a one-of-a-kind shelving system 860 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:23,750 that accommodates all sizes of bottles and cans, 861 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:26,830 everything from ginger shots to champagne. 862 00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:30,550 The top doubles as a pour, serve, store station. 863 00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:32,460 AKA, it's also a bar cart. 864 00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:34,510 And with our patent-pending sight system, 865 00:33:34,510 --> 00:33:37,720 you can even see inside your fridge right from your phone. 866 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,100 Imagine you're at the grocery store. 867 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,470 You're having friends over later 868 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:42,640 and you can't remember if you have enough beer. 869 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,350 Now all you have to do is look at the app 870 00:33:44,350 --> 00:33:46,310 and you'll know exactly how much you need. 871 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:49,650 So, Sharks, who's ready to do a deal and pop some champagne? 872 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:51,150 Alright. 873 00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:52,740 I know what's coming. Alright, you know what's coming. 874 00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:53,780 I know what's coming. 875 00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:55,740 O'Leary: Un, deux, trois. 876 00:33:55,740 --> 00:34:00,030 Des Chevaliers du Tastevin! 877 00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:02,450 And in front of you are the trays 878 00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:05,460 that come with the fridge to kind of turn it into a bar cart. 879 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,620 How much is the fridge? 880 00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:08,790 The fridge is $1,495, 881 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:12,670 and we currently offer early-access pricing of $1,295. 882 00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:14,260 Is that a lot for a basic-- 883 00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:18,300 No, as a matter of fact, I just bought two. No? 884 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,140 Not of yours-- I didn't know about yours-- 885 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,470 but of a different one. 886 00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:24,480 And I will tell you, yours is the right price. 887 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,190 And what the guy was trying to sell me... How much did you spend? 888 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:28,850 ...was three times as much. 889 00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:30,150 O'Leary: How does the app work? 890 00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:32,150 Do I actually see into the fridge? 891 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:34,490 So every time you put something in or take it out, 892 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:37,360 it automatically images it, no scanning whatsoever, 893 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,950 and your app will update. 894 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:40,660 So I see shelf by shelf by shelf? What do I see? 895 00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:41,740 Shelf by shelf. 896 00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:43,660 That's an innovation I haven't seen. 897 00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,500 Now, tell us about the two of you. 898 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,160 Yes, so Sam and I have a combined 899 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,210 20 years of experience in start-ups. 900 00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:51,210 I cold e-mailed Casper, the mattress company, 901 00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:53,170 and I helped build the brand from the ground up. 902 00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:55,010 Then I went to Billie, the women's razor brand, 903 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,380 which sold a few years ago 904 00:34:56,380 --> 00:34:57,840 to one of the biggest CPG companies. 905 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,720 Sam spent many years at Away 906 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:01,680 leading supply chain and product development, 907 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,510 and while he was at Away, the suitcase brand, 908 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:05,520 his work actually took him to fridge factories, 909 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,680 because believe it or not, 910 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,230 there are manufacturing similarities 911 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:10,020 between fridges and suitcases. 912 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,360 You sell it for $1,295 or $1,495. 913 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,860 What does it cost you to make? 914 00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:16,740 So our landed costs are $575. 915 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,200 And then after shipping, which is another $130 to $160, 916 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,910 depending on where you are in the country, 917 00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:24,410 it gets to around $750 to $775. 918 00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:25,910 So you don't have much margin. No. 919 00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:27,290 How do you sell it? 920 00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:28,620 Direct to consumer. 921 00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:29,960 How many have you sold? 922 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,380 Just over 3,000. 923 00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:33,210 Sam, have you guys raised a lot of money? 924 00:35:33,210 --> 00:35:36,260 We raised $1 million about two years ago. 925 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:37,710 At what valuation? 926 00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:40,220 That was at $10 million on a post-money SAFE. 927 00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:42,510 Why are you telling us you're worth $20 million now? 928 00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:45,470 So that was two years ago before we even had a prototype. 929 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:47,560 We've been in market for eight months. 930 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,690 We've done $4 million of revenue. 931 00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:51,190 We're profitable. In eight months? 932 00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:52,730 In eight months. And you've shipped that? 933 00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:54,440 Have you collected that already? We've shipped that. 934 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,940 You've shipped that. That's shipped. 935 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:57,690 And we've ordered enough units 936 00:35:57,690 --> 00:35:59,530 to be able to do a $12 million year this year, 937 00:35:59,530 --> 00:36:00,700 which is what we're forecasting. 938 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,700 And on that $4 million, 939 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,200 how much have you spent 940 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,870 to create the buzz? $12 million. 941 00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:08,080 So we have a return on ad spend of five times. 942 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,580 So we spend about $250 per fridge, or 20% of our revenue. 943 00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:14,130 Look, I like it. I like the story. 944 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:15,420 I like the pitch. I like the whole direct. 945 00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:16,630 You guys are great. 946 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:17,920 I just don't like the valuation. 947 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,010 So here's what I'll do. 948 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,260 I'll give you the $600,000 for 10%. 949 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:24,090 Well, they're gonna jump at that. 950 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:25,720 I think they should. 951 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,220 I think they should. 952 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:29,470 Wow. That was a very loud laugh. 953 00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:31,310 That's how I laugh all the time. 954 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:33,440 Look, I don't think you're worth more than 6 million bucks. 955 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,770 I'm sorry. 956 00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:37,190 Guys, I think it's a beautiful product. 957 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:38,780 I'm not sure I see the vision. 958 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,940 I just don't see it. I'm out. 959 00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:42,700 Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. 960 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,490 Guys, here's where I'm at. 961 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:47,280 Look, great product, great company. 962 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200 The problem is a math problem. 963 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,460 When you price it at a $20 million valuation, 964 00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:55,710 in order for me to get my $600,000 back, 965 00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:59,300 you have to do $20 million in net cash flow profits. 966 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,960 $20 million cash flow profits, 967 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,090 3% of that is my $600,000 back. 968 00:37:04,090 --> 00:37:05,890 If I want to get a multiple return, 969 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,010 since it's a risky environment, 970 00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:09,140 let's just say three or four times, 971 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:12,640 you need to do $60 million, $80 million in free cash flow 972 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,980 to give me a return. 973 00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:15,980 That's the challenge of making this investment. 974 00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:17,940 So for those reasons, I'm out. 975 00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,400 Yeah, and I'm kind of in a similar place. 976 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,950 It's very hard to imagine that things could pan out in a way 977 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,110 that would be good for you and for us. 978 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:28,620 I also was thinking about how I could add value to you, 979 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,990 and I probably could find a few ways, 980 00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:32,960 but I don't know that I would be the best Shark 981 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,870 for you for this deal, so for those reasons, I'm out. 982 00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:36,670 Thank you. Lori? 983 00:37:36,670 --> 00:37:38,500 You know, listen, I love you both. 984 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:41,300 The real problem for me is your valuation. 985 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,170 I mean, it's rough. Mark said it all. 986 00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:44,930 I'm not even gonna try to repeat it, 987 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,930 'cause he really said it all quite squarely. 988 00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,600 What would you consider to be reasonable? 989 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,350 Yeah. We're open. 990 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:53,520 Oh, you guys would not want to even know. 991 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,890 Kevin was at 10%. I'm gonna be honest. 992 00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:58,860 Like, to me, you're so start-up, I would have been at 20%, 993 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,650 which you're never gonna consider. 994 00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:02,190 It just doesn't feel like the right deal. 995 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,860 So I'm sorry. I'm out. 996 00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:08,910 All roads lead to Mr. Wonderful. 997 00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:12,450 Well, I really think you heard it from everybody 998 00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:14,080 in the same succinct way. 999 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,040 Valuation's a huge problem. 1000 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,870 I actually think your offer is generous. 1001 00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:20,040 I do. I gave them a $6 million valuation 1002 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,630 with no path to liquidity. 1003 00:38:21,630 --> 00:38:23,130 So there's a lot of risk in it. 1004 00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,300 I just happen to think my social would blow this up so huge 1005 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,260 if you were able to figure out a way to fulfill. 1006 00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:31,720 And I also think I can reduce your CAC. 1007 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,600 Do you mind if we talk about your offer for a second? 1008 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,890 Speak amongst yourselves. 1009 00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:36,100 Thank you. 1010 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,740 A lot of whispering going on. 1011 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,070 No, I've actually been thinking about 1012 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:51,950 your free cash flow comment. Uh-huh. 1013 00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:54,370 But this is a category where the free cash flows of, 1014 00:38:54,370 --> 00:38:56,910 say, Whirlpool, it's $1 billion. 1015 00:38:56,910 --> 00:38:59,170 Haier, who bought out GE, it's $2 billion. 1016 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,710 How many products do they have? They have five. 1017 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:03,630 How long did it take them to get there? 100 years. 1018 00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:05,630 What's happening here? He didn't make the offer. 1019 00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:09,930 Kevin has an off on the table, which doesn't always stay there. 1020 00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:12,100 O'Leary: Actually, I have to be honest with you guys. 1021 00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,140 I'm out. 1022 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:25,110 All five Sharks are out. 1023 00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,610 Sam and Alyse had an offer on the table from Kevin 1024 00:39:27,610 --> 00:39:29,820 for their designer beverage fridge, Rocco. 1025 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,120 But their hesitation led to a change of heart. 1026 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,620 The only offer you had was me. 1027 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:36,830 And then you're talking to Cuban again. 1028 00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:41,080 You know, Mr. Wonderful doesn't feel good about that. 1029 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,500 You hurt his feelings. 1030 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,460 And I now will forget who you are tomorrow morning, 1031 00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:46,300 because there's gonna be five more deals 1032 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,380 coming through that door. Kevin. 1033 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:50,380 I'm out. See you guys later. Ciao. 1034 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:52,300 We wanted to offer a royalty. 1035 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,010 I'm not sure if there's a way to get you back in. 1036 00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:55,760 What's your offer? What is it? 1037 00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:01,140 We want to-- We can be a little flexible on the valuation. 1038 00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:02,150 What's the offer? 1039 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:03,690 Let's do a royalty 1040 00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:05,360 particularly tied to your channels. 1041 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,030 No, I'm not doing that. 1042 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:10,610 The minute my name is on this, it's every unit gets a royalty, 1043 00:40:10,610 --> 00:40:12,860 because all of a sudden it's a Mr. Wonderful deal. 1044 00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:16,280 If you don't believe that, talk to my 54 CEOs. 1045 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,540 See what they say. What's the royalty you would give? 1046 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,160 Yeah, but only on what Kevin generates is what he's saying. 1047 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,830 No, I'm not doing that. 1048 00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:23,880 I don't need a job. He's making him a commissioned salesperson. 1049 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,500 I'm an investor with a huge brand. I'm just curious. 1050 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,170 What's the royalty you would give? 1051 00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:28,710 What would you give? 1052 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:31,340 You do the marketing numbers. 1053 00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:33,260 I'm not doing that deal. I'm not for hire. 1054 00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:36,760 Well, just tell us what the royalty was. I'm the one asking. 1055 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,760 It was $50. 1056 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,470 $50 a fridge... $50 a fridge. 1057 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:41,430 ...until you get your money back. 1058 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:43,350 I just want to throw something back at you. 1059 00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:45,190 Okay. No qualifiers. 1060 00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:49,940 But $600,000, $50 a fridge. That's it? 1061 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:52,150 If we can keep the regular equity ask, 1062 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:54,110 we'll do $50 every fridge until your money's back. 1063 00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:56,490 3%? $50 every fridge. 1064 00:40:56,490 --> 00:40:58,740 Would you do it at 5%? 1065 00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:00,080 4%? 1066 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,250 5%? 1067 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:02,250 4%? 1068 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:03,710 5%? 1069 00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:04,880 Can we talk about that for one second? 1070 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,590 I'd do it at 3% in perpetuity. 1071 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:12,220 Which is forever. 1072 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:13,970 Take the deal. I mean, you're gonna lift. 1073 00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:16,090 And we plan to be around for a long time, so... 1074 00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,850 I do, too, I hope. That's a long time. 1075 00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:20,390 As long as Whirlpool. 1076 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,020 4% and until you get your money back. 1077 00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:24,730 We'll meet you in the middle. 1078 00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:28,190 How about 4% until I get my money back 1079 00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:30,280 plus another $300,000? 1080 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,610 Done. Done. 1081 00:41:31,610 --> 00:41:34,110 There you go. Wonderful. 1082 00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:36,360 Boom! Ooh! Who knew? 1083 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,950 Now, I bought that other fridge. 1084 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:39,490 Oh, my God. Well, we're gonna have to replace them. 1085 00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:41,290 Thank you, Lori. Thank you so much. 1086 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,290 Thank you. Yeah. Good deal. Good deal. 1087 00:41:43,290 --> 00:41:45,080 Thank you. Congratulations, guys. 1088 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,750 Thank you. Thank you, everyone. 1089 00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:48,790 We did it! 1090 00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:52,420 We got a Shark. 1091 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:54,930 They were all out, and then she came back in. 1092 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,590 Whew. 1093 00:41:56,590 --> 00:41:58,010 I thought it was a great deal. 1094 00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:59,930 I don't have anything to lose. 1095 00:41:59,930 --> 00:42:01,560 They're already selling them within a year. 1096 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,230 You're putting up 600 grand to make 300. 1097 00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:04,810 They're selling that much. 1098 00:42:04,810 --> 00:42:06,480 If they're right, within a year, I'm gonna make my money back. 1099 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,980 I think that deal sucks. 1100 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:09,310 Well, of course you think it sucks. 1101 00:42:09,310 --> 00:42:10,690 I'd never do that deal. 'Cause you didn't get it. 1102 00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:12,440 It's a good deal, Lori. Thank you, Mark. 1103 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,360 You're welcome, Lori. 1104 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,440 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 86614

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