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Tonight on "Shark Tank"...
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Wait. There's no crying
in cooking.
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Do not try this at home.
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My organs were, like,
falling out of my body.
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Who's ready
to pop some champagne?
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I own that business.
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How many have you sold?
$2,000.
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Oi.
That's nothing.
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Last year,
we actually lost $100,000.
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Oi.
O'Leary: Oh!
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What if I went in
with Kevin?
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No, I don't want that,
Lori.
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Are you not human?
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What's happening here?
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That'll go down in "Shark Tank"
history right there.
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First in the Tank
are sisters
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seeking to share an old
family recipe with the world.
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Hi, Sharks.
I'm Casey.
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And I'm Vanessa.
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We're from Boston,
Massachusetts.
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And we're the two sisters
behind...
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Jaju Pierogi!
Jaju Pierogi!
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Today we're seeking
$300,000
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for 8% equity in our company,
Jaju Pierogi.
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Wow.
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Okay, I'm actually
not a pierogi.
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So, Sharks, do you know
what our love language is?
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It's pierogi.
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Pierogi are Eastern European
dumplings
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traditionally made with potato,
cheese, and dough,
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boiled...
and fried in butter.
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Growing up
in western Massachusetts,
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we always had pierogi
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from our grandfather's deli
in our freezer.
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There was no
mac and cheese.
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If we were hungry, grab pierogi
and fry them up in some butter.
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When we went off to college
in Boston,
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our mom would hand-deliver
these same pierogi to our dorms,
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and all of our friends
would ask,
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"Hey, where'd you
get those?"
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Inspired, we dusted off
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our grandfather's
handwritten recipes
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and got to work creating
Jaju Pierogi.
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We use the same ingredients
our grandfather used.
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Our dough tastes like it was
rolled out on the kitchen table.
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Our pierogi are pre-boiled,
flash frozen,
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and ready to eat
in 10 minutes.
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They're great for families
and individuals alike.
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So, Sharks, who wants to come
smell like butter with us?
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And make pierogi
a household staple?
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In front of you, you'll find
our lineup of flavors--
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potato and cheese,
sweet potato/caramelized onion,
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jalapeño cheddar,
loaded baked potato,
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and kielbasa
and red bell pepper,
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as well as with some sauerkraut
and sour cream for dipping.
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So, Vanessa,
I'm Eastern European.
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If I had-- If I was on
my deathbed and God said to me,
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"Robert, you can have one
meal," it would be pierogies.
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That's amazing. I grew up on
pierogies. I grew up in Pittsburgh.
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Pittsburgh, yes. We know!
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Alright, here we go.
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Mmm!
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This is a good
pierogi. Wow! Yum.
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Let me just tell you,
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one of the beauties of
pierogies is it's greasy and gooey.
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This loaded baked potato
is greasy and gooey.
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It's so good.
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Thanks. It has a lot of umami.
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Vanessa, why is it called Jaju?
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It is not a not a Polish name.
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So "jaju" is the phonetic
spelling of "grandfather."
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So in Polish,
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"jaju" is an affectionate
way of saying "grandfather."
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Is that your grandfather there?
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Yes, our grandfather is here.
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So the whole inspiration
for this business
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is that we grew
up around his deli.
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In 2016, we went
back to the deli,
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took our grandfather's
handwritten notebook
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with all the deli from like 1960
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and started tinkering
around. That's so beautiful.
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And we didn't really
know what to expect.
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The first market we went to,
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we brought 40 boxes
and we sold out in an hour.
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Wow. We were taking
names, phone numbers,
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addresses, like,
trying to deliver.
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But up until the
end of last year,
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I mean, it's still
the two of us.
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So we're in 2,500 stores,
and it's been the two of us.
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Wow. You are?
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No brokers, all of us.
No brokers, nothing.
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Oh, wow. That's an
accomplishment. Good for you.
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O'Leary: Well, let me
give you some good news,
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'cause I've done a lot
of research in this space.
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Pot stickers,
dumplings, pierogies
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are the fastest-growing
convenience food
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in America right now,
beating pizza growth.
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Yep. I invested in it
into Brooklyn Dumplings.
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When I saw the growth
numbers, I couldn't believe it.
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And you're in the
frozen section?
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Yeah. And who are you
in? Do you mind saying?
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So we're nationwide
with Whole Foods,
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with Sprouts, and then
we're in MOM's Organic.
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We're in Harris Teeter.
We're in Fresh Market.
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Wow. Our sales this
year will be $2.7 million.
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Are you guys
profitable with that?
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So last year, we
actually lost $100,000,
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and we would have
been profitable,
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but we didn't negotiate
for our contract
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with a large grocery
chain like we should have.
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We were very emotional
about getting into the chain.
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I knew middle of last year
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that we were gonna
run out of cash,
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so I knew that that
was the first time
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we had to go raise money.
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Obviously, I had no
idea how to do that,
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but my back was
against the wall.
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So I felt like at the
end of last year,
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my organs were, like,
falling out of my body
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because cash flow's
such a problem,
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like, with food, right?
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Like, you put-- You know.
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You're growing and
you're growing every year,
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and then you have no
money. And there's no money.
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Exactly. So last year,
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we raised $400,000 at
a $2.25 million valuation.
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So you've given away about
20% of the business. 18%.
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And, Vanessa, today
your valuation is what?
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$3.75 million.
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$3.75 million in
less than a year.
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When we raised money, we
were not national with Whole Foods.
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We are officially national
with Whole Foods.
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And so we're projected
to do $2.7 million,
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$2.8 million this year.
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We've been in Whole Foods
for three weeks nationally,
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and we are moving like
between 12 and 15 bags,
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just starting without any
demos, nothing, a week.
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That's very high. Are
you impressed by that?
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Yeah, it's very solid,
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but I'm not sure that it
justifies that $3.75 million.
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Shark! Listen, guys, um,
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I don't see it as the right
business for me right now.
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So I'm out. Thank you, Lori.
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Per package, what
does it cost you to make,
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and what does it cost you to--
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what do you sell
it at wholesale?
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Okay, so for the retail bag,
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it's $3.89 for the bag to make.
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How many pierogies in it?
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There's 12. Okay.
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And then the cost to
the distributor is $6.33.
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Wow. That's not great margins.
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That's not great margins.
What is the seller retail?
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Suggested is $9.99 to $10.99.
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That's your problem
right there, isn't it?
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'Cause you don't have
a lot of wiggle room.
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You need to knock off 35%
off your manufacturing costs.
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This is a great
product. I love them.
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I ate too many of them.
That's part of the problem.
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I ballooned to 600 pounds.
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I have no willpower when
it comes to stuff like this,
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and I'd rather be a
customer than an owner.
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So for those reasons, I'm out.
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Ladies, I'm gonna crown
myself the Pierogi King.
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Yes. I love them.
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Couldn't love them more.
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Here's my offer.
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If my fellow friend and
Shark, the food king,
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Daniel goes in and he
wants me as a partner,
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I will go in with him.
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So if you can talk him
into it, I'll come along.
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Two Sharks are out.
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Robert is interested in
Casey and Vanessa's
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frozen pierogi business, Jaju,
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but he wants to
partner with Daniel
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for his expertise
in the food space.
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Guys, you got to talk
Daniel into this deal.
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I am so excited
about everything. Yes.
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I just think we need
a food guy in this.
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Come on, Daniel.
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Do you need a food guy? When we
heard that you were our guest Shark,
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I, like, cried.
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I've always admired and
wanted to work with you.
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Keep going, keep going.
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And, like, yeah, I
watched you from afar
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and, like, what you did
with Kind and then Somos
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and, like, the energy with that.
Robert, I think you do this deal with them,
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and we will find a way
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to cooperate together
and introduce them.
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And then if it makes
sense, we join forces.
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And if not-- My friend.
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Mi amigo.
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They cried their heart out.
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Are you not human?
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Did you watch the
episode last season
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where I did a
deal with Toast-It?
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Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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So it's a sister pair like you.
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Yeah, for sure. In some ways,
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it'd be kind of fun to do
the sisters frozen space.
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In other ways, I feel like it
might be competitive because--
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No.
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I really don't think it'd be
fair to my partners at Toast-It
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to do this without certainty
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that it won't be seen
by them as competitive.
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We think you'd be a great
partner, though. We do.
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And it's tricky because I do
think there could be synergies,
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but I am not sure.
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So for those
reasons, I think I'm out.
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Alright. Okay.
Thank you, thank you.
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Ladies if Daniel's out, I'm out.
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Alright, all pierogies
lead to Mr. Wonderful.
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That's what happens.
Here's my offer.
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Listen carefully to it, 'cause
it's the only way I would do it.
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I work with the
largest co-packers
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and distributors, number one.
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Number two... makes
the most inexpensive
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pot stickers, dumplings,
and pierogies.
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That's how you would
get your costs down.
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I own that business.
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I bought it just to give
me vertical strength
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in Brooklyn Dumplings.
Those are dumplings.
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They're all the same.
We'd add this to it.
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I don't know how tied
you are to Jaju or not,
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but I'll give you the $300,000.
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I want 20%.
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I have the distribution.
I have the co-packer.
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I have the protein maker.
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And I didn't bring up the fact
that I do a lot of sales on QVC
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as Chef Wonderful
in this category.
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In fact, I own this
category on QVC.
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You don't own pierogies.
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They're all the same,
pot stickers, pierogies.
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Listen, you understand
what I'm talking about.
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The manufacturing of this
category of convenient food
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is all done in the
same mold factory,
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whether it's a pierogi,
whether it's a pot sticker,
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whether it's a dumpling.
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I have a question. What
if I went in with Kevin?
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No, I don't want that, Lori.
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Lori, will you make
an offer on your own?
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What if I went in with Kevin?
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No.
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So the offer that we
have right now is--
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because there's
a lot of chatter--
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is the 20% for $300,000,
247
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and then you want
to take the production
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to the place that you own?
249
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No, I want you to meet the
management of Brooklyn Dumpling,
250
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and you decide which of the
elements you're going to use.
251
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He just poofed me away,
right? I don't want to do the deal
252
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unless you're using
my infrastructure. Okay.
253
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Otherwise, what
am I doing this for?
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When you see the synergy of
what they're building over there,
255
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you'll realize, "Wait a second.
256
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I want to get into the
stores across America.
257
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I want Walmart. I want
Costco. I want it all."
258
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By the way, you've
achieved something-- It's hard.
259
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Was it 2,100 you have? 2,500.
260
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That's nothing.
261
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So because you're bringing
us into the infrastructure,
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would you be willing
to do $300,000 for 10%?
263
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Why would I do that?
264
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It's plug and play, right?
265
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You're adding us to the portfolio.
I'm the only offer you have.
266
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I appreciate it, but
the answer's no.
267
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And, Robert, you're
completely out?
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I can help you eat them.
269
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Sometimes it's really great
to do deals with other Sharks,
270
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but I have everything
you need, everything.
271
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What do you want to do?
272
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I think that, you know, you
can speak to the numbers,
273
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but we think that our
valuation is fair and that 20%--
274
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And that's fine. 20% is
too much for us to give up.
275
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That's fine.
276
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That's how we feel
right now. Yeah.
277
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Good for you guys.
Good for you guys.
278
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You guys are very impressive.
279
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And you will do great. Yeah.
280
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Okay. Well, thank you.
Thank you so much.
281
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Congrats, guys.
Thank you, ladies.
282
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Thank you for sharing these with
us. Good luck. They're amazing.
283
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Good luck.
284
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We came in to make a deal,
285
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but we know the value of the
work we put into this business
286
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and the value of the
emotional connection
287
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we have with our customers
and the quality of our product.
288
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And we are confident we
can move forward from here
289
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and continue to
build our business.
290
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And maybe one of the Sharks
will call us back one day and,
291
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you know, regret not
making that deal, so...
292
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In Season 15,
293
00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:48,080
we watched Ashley Carson
and her mother, Karen Walker,
294
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make a deal with Lori Greiner
295
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for their comfortable
swim goggles company,
296
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Splash Place Swim Goggles.
297
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Aiden and Jayla are
having no problem
298
00:11:55,790 --> 00:11:57,300
putting on their swim goggles,
299
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and there's simply no more
pulling and tangling your hair.
300
00:12:00,050 --> 00:12:02,590
Let's see what
they're up to now.
301
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The Sharks were really
blown away with our sales
302
00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:07,560
and also the fact that
we work with local women
303
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in our community to
assemble the goggles.
304
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In the seven years before
we pitched to the Sharks,
305
00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:15,400
we had almost $7
million in lifetime sales.
306
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,440
And less than a week
after "Shark Tank,"
307
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we brought in over
$1 million in sales.
308
00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:22,780
It's been less than a
year since we closed,
309
00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:25,990
and we now have over
$10 million in sales.
310
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Splash Place Swim
Goggles can now be found
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in nearly all Scheels
locations nationwide.
312
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And we're soon launching
in REI and Buc-ee's this year.
313
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We're now in over 1,800
retail locations around the world,
314
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including Iceland, the
Middle East, and Australia.
315
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You know, I just love the model.
316
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Stay-at-home moms are
helping make the product,
317
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pack the product.
318
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It gives them another job.
319
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You're changing their lives.
320
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Our story's a little
different than most.
321
00:12:54,390 --> 00:12:57,310
We don't have a college
background, neither one of us.
322
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We both prioritize family life.
323
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So it was important for me to
give women in our community
324
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an opportunity to
be able to provide
325
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for their family, as well.
326
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I was a stay-at-home mom,
so working with so many of you
327
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that are also stay-at-home
moms really meant a lot to me.
328
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We're at the Wigwam
Resort for a special dinner
329
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to thank all the women who
have helped us get to this point.
330
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Tonight is the night to honor
these women and to lift them up.
331
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Thank you.
332
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We are so thankful
to "Shark Tank,"
333
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and we just want to
encourage anybody out there
334
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with an entrepreneurial spirit,
335
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:35,020
if you have an
idea, to just go for it,
336
00:13:35,020 --> 00:13:37,770
because you never know
where it could take you.
337
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Next up is a product that
ensures you'll always have
338
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an essential accessory
when you need it.
339
00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:05,510
Howdy, Sharks. My name's Zak.
340
00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:08,180
And I'm from a small town
just outside of Dallas, Texas.
341
00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,430
I'm seeking $350,000
342
00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:14,140
in exchange for 15% of
my company, Permaplug.
343
00:14:14,140 --> 00:14:15,810
Sharks, picture this.
344
00:14:15,810 --> 00:14:17,640
You get home from
a long day of work.
345
00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,060
You finally get comfy
in bed or on the couch.
346
00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:22,770
Your phone's on 1%, so
you reach for your charger.
347
00:14:22,770 --> 00:14:25,030
Wait. Where is it?
348
00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:27,700
It's missing again.
349
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:30,410
So what could you
do to try to fix this?
350
00:14:30,410 --> 00:14:33,660
Maybe you could
try a sticky note.
351
00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:35,290
"Zak's charger. Do not move."
352
00:14:35,290 --> 00:14:37,460
Use extra-bold lettering
and exclamation points
353
00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:39,960
to make sure that they
know you're serious this time.
354
00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,250
Maybe you could just buy
dozens of cheap chargers
355
00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,460
every few weeks and hope
there's one around when you need it.
356
00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:47,550
Maybe you could even
try supergluing your charger
357
00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:48,800
directly to the outlet.
358
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,550
I'm kidding. Do
not try this at home.
359
00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:52,850
But somehow, some
way, that charger
360
00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:56,520
will still end up getting
borrowed but never returned.
361
00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,980
This is a daily
dilemma for millions,
362
00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:03,440
but not for those who've been
lucky enough to discover...
363
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,280
the Permaplug Charger Lock.
364
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,610
Permaplug Charger
Lock is a proprietary,
365
00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:09,280
fully patented locking system
366
00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,990
that secures your charger
and cables into place
367
00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:15,080
so they can't be moved,
stolen, or accidentally unplugged.
368
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,700
Let me show you how it works.
369
00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:19,580
First, you'll simply remove
your existing outlet cover,
370
00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:21,040
assemble your Permaplug system,
371
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,170
which includes the locking
cover, a dual fast charger,
372
00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:26,130
and up to two charging cables.
373
00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:27,670
Then you'll place the
Permaplug Charger Lock
374
00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:29,590
directly on your upper outlet,
375
00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:30,930
and then you'll screw it back in
376
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,590
using the included
standard screw.
377
00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:35,470
Or you can upgrade to a
security screw for added protection.
378
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,900
And boom, start charging without
ever worrying about your charger
379
00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:44,400
or the cables growing legs
and going missing again.
380
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,690
So, Zak, honey, sweetie,
poopsie, baby. He's not done.
381
00:15:46,690 --> 00:15:48,650
Wait. Let him finish.
Oh, you're not done?
382
00:15:48,650 --> 00:15:50,110
I know you're excited. I am too.
383
00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:51,570
But we're almost there.
384
00:15:51,570 --> 00:15:54,450
Good answer, Zak. Poopsie baby.
385
00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:56,870
Phones, headphones,
tablets, and other devices
386
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:58,540
are a crucial part of
our everyday lives.
387
00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:00,040
They're not going anywhere.
388
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,960
Protecting the lifeline of
these devices is a no-brainer.
389
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,380
So, Sharks, who's ready
to secure your chargers
390
00:16:05,380 --> 00:16:07,460
and a deal with Permaplug?
391
00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,630
Good job. So, poopsie
baby, the issue is,
392
00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:11,840
this solves the
problem in your home.
393
00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,050
But if you're, like, in
a hotel or on the road,
394
00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:16,640
it's not really
practical, right?
395
00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,850
It's just for permanent.
396
00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:19,310
Unless you're the
hotel. It depends.
397
00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:21,060
The hotel would be the one
that purchases them from us,
398
00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:22,560
and there is a ton of
unique applications
399
00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,900
in commercial settings, as well.
400
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,270
Oh, that's an
interesting point. Yeah.
401
00:16:25,270 --> 00:16:27,860
So you're saying the hotel
can then do that so that...
402
00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:29,230
They'll provide
it for their guests.
403
00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:30,570
...the guests don't
take them away.
404
00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:32,650
Or even their staff
in the background.
405
00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:34,070
Can't go ask the front desk for a charging
cable. O'Leary: I want to be fair, Zak.
406
00:16:34,070 --> 00:16:36,910
I do not deserve to rip you
to pieces if you have sales.
407
00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:37,910
Okay.
408
00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:39,370
Do you have any?
409
00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:41,450
I do. I have about
$2,000 in sales.
410
00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:43,290
Oi. $2,000, Zak?
411
00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:45,960
Okay, I am now going to rip you to
pieces. $2,000 in sales so far today.
412
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,000
I have $456,000 in
sales year to date.
413
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,170
Andale.
414
00:16:51,170 --> 00:16:53,550
That's a great answer.
Oh, what a great comeback.
415
00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:55,550
That is a great
answer. Thank you.
416
00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:58,100
That'll go down in "Shark Tank" history
right there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
417
00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,600
How did you get
$450,000 in sales?
418
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,180
I brought the
sales in all myself.
419
00:17:02,180 --> 00:17:05,400
So I originally filed the
patent for this in 2019.
420
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,440
So it goes all the way back,
really, to whenever I was a kid.
421
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,570
I grew up with cousins.
422
00:17:08,570 --> 00:17:09,690
We all grew up
on the same street.
423
00:17:09,690 --> 00:17:11,110
We always stole
each other's chargers.
424
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:14,030
And then in 2019, I went
and stayed at a friend's house,
425
00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:16,870
and when I stayed at his
house, I slept on his couch,
426
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:18,830
and I had my phone
plugged in to his charger.
427
00:17:18,830 --> 00:17:22,330
It was superglued to his
outlet, so light bulbs flipped,
428
00:17:22,330 --> 00:17:24,870
and I knew this was a good
product and brought it to life.
429
00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:28,590
This is for anybody that
has one child or more. Right.
430
00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:31,170
I got three teenagers. It
happens by the minute. Yeah.
431
00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:32,920
Yeah. How are
you selling it today?
432
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,420
The $450,000 sales--
433
00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:36,340
By the way, is
that for the year?
434
00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:37,640
That's year to date.
435
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,720
I'm $665,000 lifetime,
which is 12 months.
436
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,930
Wow. I launched last year.
437
00:17:40,930 --> 00:17:42,140
Who are you selling it to?
438
00:17:42,140 --> 00:17:43,350
Fully direct to consumer.
439
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:45,440
My customers range
all over the place.
440
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,310
So parents tired of their
kids moving the chargers,
441
00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:50,190
siblings, roommates, and a
huge one right now is schools.
442
00:17:50,190 --> 00:17:51,780
They're buying them so
they can charge the tablets
443
00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:52,940
for their kids. All
through social?
444
00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:54,150
All through social media.
445
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:55,860
All on your website or Amazon?
446
00:17:55,860 --> 00:17:57,610
So Amazon's a
huge channel for me,
447
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,490
and I was resistant
to doing that at first.
448
00:17:59,490 --> 00:18:01,990
But it's actually 60% of
my revenue is Amazon now.
449
00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:03,910
And I don't love that because
I don't own the customer data.
450
00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,290
You guys know how that is.
451
00:18:05,290 --> 00:18:07,120
But I incentivize people
to try to buy on my website
452
00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,170
with better pricing.
453
00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:09,290
Are you buying a lot of ads?
454
00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:10,920
Most of my marketing is organic.
455
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,960
I do have a
retargeting funnel set up
456
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,760
so I can just
retarget the people
457
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,340
that have engaged with my organic.
Good for you. Yeah, good for you.
458
00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:17,880
So, and I have an
SEO background.
459
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,720
So I built all of these
automation tools
460
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,050
using automation and AI.
461
00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:22,890
So, for instance, like, if
I'm talking to somebody
462
00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:24,970
and they say, you know,
463
00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:27,190
"What's the best Father's
Day gift for 2024?"
464
00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:29,480
I can text myself that,
generate a blog post,
465
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,520
make sure Permaplug is
number-one... I love that.
466
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,030
...Father's Day present,
467
00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:35,860
automatically published on
my site and indexed by Google.
468
00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:38,530
I want to go back to
this-- $350,000, 15%.
469
00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:40,110
What are you gonna
do with the $350,000?
470
00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:42,160
I'll use it to help
increase my float.
471
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,410
So I've got a decent
amount of money in the bank,
472
00:18:43,410 --> 00:18:44,950
but I am playing cat
and mouse a little bit
473
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:47,040
with inventory, buying,
cash flow in the bank.
474
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,210
How much inventory do you have?
What is a container? What's a container?
475
00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:51,540
I have about $80,000
worth of inventory right now.
476
00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:53,210
Wow, that's a lot.
477
00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:54,380
That's my hard cost.
478
00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:56,090
But, I mean, I'm
selling 15,000 units,
479
00:18:56,090 --> 00:18:57,510
so I'm moving
them pretty quickly.
480
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:59,760
You making any money on
the $465,000 year to date?
481
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,640
Absolutely. My
margin's around 58%.
482
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,970
So super-healthy margins. What
did you put in your pocket, anything?
483
00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:05,310
What does it cost, and
what do you sell it for?
484
00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:08,100
So I buy those for
about $6.50 each
485
00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,440
and I sell them for
about $35 on average.
486
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,900
Do you know your
customer acquisition cost
487
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,190
in the last few months?
488
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:14,400
They're less than 15 bucks
489
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,860
'cause I'm only doing
warm retargeting.
490
00:19:15,860 --> 00:19:17,740
If they have not
engaged intensely
491
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:19,990
with one of my organic videos,
492
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:21,780
then I'm not paying to advertise to them. So
it costs you 15 bucks to acquire a customer.
493
00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:23,450
And the average order size?
494
00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:25,490
It's around $58.
495
00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:27,750
Alright, look, I
thought this was a joke.
496
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:29,040
I got to be honest
with you, Zak.
497
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,540
Obviously, sales say no.
498
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:32,920
And you sound very credible.
499
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,590
So here's an offer for you.
500
00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:36,550
I'll do the $350,000, 15%.
501
00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:41,630
I want 2 bucks a unit
in royalties in perpetuity.
502
00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:43,970
I'm curious who's on your team.
503
00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:45,350
How much-- Just you?
504
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:47,100
One-man band. This
is all me and my wife.
505
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,060
We have a 24-hour fulfillment
promise notice. You and your wife.
506
00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:51,560
We're up till midnight packing orders
every single night. Doing everything.
507
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,270
It's your full-time job. Yep.
508
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:57,320
And do you have any
debt? Do you own it 100%?
509
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,690
I own it 100%. Zero debt.
510
00:19:58,690 --> 00:20:00,360
So I am doing
this full time now.
511
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:02,030
I'm living off of my
savings for now.
512
00:20:02,030 --> 00:20:04,370
I don't plan to take any
sort of profit or salary
513
00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,410
from the company until 2025,
514
00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:08,370
just to make sure that I have
enough float for the company
515
00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:09,750
and there's enough inventory
516
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:11,710
and I'm not fighting with
paying myself for that.
517
00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,540
So I've saved up enough from
my job to live off of until then.
518
00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:15,750
But I do plan on, you know,
519
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:17,380
obviously taking a
modest salary next year.
520
00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:18,710
Good for you, man. Thank you.
521
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:21,130
You know, everybody I
meet wants to be successful,
522
00:20:21,130 --> 00:20:25,140
but so few people are
willing to make the sacrifice
523
00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:26,390
and pay the price.
524
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:28,140
We've made a ton of
sacrifices, too, honestly.
525
00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:29,930
Like, I mean, my
wife especially,
526
00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:31,480
she's put in tons
of work with me.
527
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,060
She doesn't have
to do any of that.
528
00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:35,190
She's got two full-time jobs,
taking care of a 3 1/2-year-old
529
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,070
and a 2 1/2-month-old right now.
530
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,480
So she's out there
grinding with me.
531
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,440
I'm here right now, and
she's at home packing orders.
532
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,150
Zak, what's your reaction
533
00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:44,660
to Mr. Wonderful's
not-so-wonderful offer?
534
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:45,990
Well, I figured coming in here,
535
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:47,950
I may get an offer
something like that.
536
00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:49,830
I would not be open
to a perpetuity deal,
537
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:51,830
but I would be open to
giving a royalty to anybody,
538
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:53,460
for that matter, until
your money's paid back
539
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,080
because I don't like
borrowing money.
540
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,170
Zak, why is that
interesting to an investor?
541
00:20:58,170 --> 00:21:00,300
Because I give you my
money. I put it at risk.
542
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,840
I wait two and a half to
three years to get it back.
543
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,010
I make nothing on it.
544
00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:06,340
Could be sitting in the
bank making 5.24%.
545
00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:10,350
The only other value is an
exit on the value of the patent,
546
00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:12,020
which may or may not play out.
547
00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,770
So you're putting your
largest investor at 100% risk.
548
00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:21,440
Well, I'll give you your
$350,000 for 25%, no royalty.
549
00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:24,530
Okay. If you don't
mind me asking,
550
00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,030
what does that put
the valuation at?
551
00:21:26,030 --> 00:21:27,780
$1.4 million. $1.4
million? Okay.
552
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:28,990
O'Leary: He's
doing $1.4 million.
553
00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:32,450
Zak, I have good news
and I have bad news.
554
00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:34,370
Okay. What do you want first?
555
00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:35,580
Ask for the bad news.
556
00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:37,000
I'm a delayed-gratification
type of guy,
557
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,500
so I'll go bad news first.
558
00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:40,040
Always get the bad news first.
559
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,880
There you go.
560
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,050
I'm out. Always.
561
00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:45,340
Want to know the good
news? That's the good news?
562
00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:46,880
Yes, ma'am.
563
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,890
I'm back in. Okay.
Thank goodness.
564
00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:50,510
My next question was gonna be--
565
00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:52,100
I had to do that
to you for, like,
566
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,980
your whole what you did to
us. Oh, yeah, the $2,000, yeah.
567
00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:55,600
Yes, with the $2,000.
That was a good one.
568
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,150
Okay. I thought
you'd appreciate that.
569
00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:02,230
I did. So I'm going
to offer you $350,000.
570
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:05,650
I would like 20%. Okay.
571
00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:08,910
And I'd like a royalty of $1
572
00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:11,580
until I get paid back
my money. Okay, okay.
573
00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:14,750
Because I think together,
we'll be a powerhouse.
574
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,120
That's my offer.
575
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,870
Alright, that's a great offer.
576
00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:19,920
What are you gonna do? Think
about. Here's my thing. I'm like Kevin.
577
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,300
I didn't think it was
real. I thought you were...
578
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,840
That is true. ...you
were negligible at best.
579
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,180
But congratulations. Thank you.
580
00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:29,590
You're doing great.
581
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:30,850
It's just not for me.
582
00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:31,930
Yes, sir. I'm out.
583
00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:33,260
Thank you for your
time. I appreciate it.
584
00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:34,850
Yeah, Zak, I'm kind
of in the same boat.
585
00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:38,310
Okay. It's a great product,
but you know SEO already,
586
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,060
you know, maybe
some cash flow things.
587
00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:41,980
You've got this on lockdown
and you know it, right?
588
00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:44,190
I appreciate that. Thank you. And
so, yeah, it's just not a fit for me.
589
00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:46,360
So for those
reasons, I'm out. Okay.
590
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:47,490
You have three offers.
591
00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:48,650
She's got the best
offer on the table.
592
00:22:48,650 --> 00:22:50,950
Well, no, she's
not Mr. Wonderful.
593
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:52,080
What does that mean?
594
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,450
Well, it means what it is.
595
00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:55,080
I've done my research
on all this and you guys.
596
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,200
I've watched this show. I
have the best offer on the table.
597
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,290
I am also the best
partner for you.
598
00:22:59,290 --> 00:23:01,750
I grew up not caring
about being an athlete.
599
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:03,000
I didn't look up
to any athletes.
600
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,460
I didn't look up to
any actors or anything.
601
00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:06,050
I looked up to
people like you guys.
602
00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:07,590
So I know everything
about all of you.
603
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:09,590
And I know what you've
done with companies and you,
604
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:12,220
and everything you guys have
all done is extremely motivational.
605
00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:13,470
It's inspirational.
606
00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:15,350
This is everything
I've ever worked for.
607
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:17,680
Lori's offer is by far, I
mean, in my opinion, just--
608
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,520
I came here, my wife
wants me to work with you.
609
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,810
So there you go.
610
00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:22,480
I would love to close
a deal with you, Lori.
611
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Thank you. Yay! Boom.
612
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,070
Congratulations. Congrats, Zak.
613
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:28,110
I love it. Thank you.
614
00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:30,700
I think it's so really good. Smart, smart,
smart. I appreciate it. I am honored.
615
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,410
Thank you so much. Thank you.
616
00:23:32,410 --> 00:23:33,830
Thank you. We're
gonna blow it up.
617
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:36,370
Thank you. There should
be like five in every home.
618
00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:37,830
There will be with your
help. In every single plug.
619
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:39,540
Good job. Thank
you. Thank you all.
620
00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:40,920
I appreciate all of your time.
Thank you so much. Congrats.
621
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,750
Zak, great job. You're
really impressive.
622
00:23:42,750 --> 00:23:44,210
Thank you. I appreciate
you all. Good luck.
623
00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:46,840
Have a good one.
624
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,590
Thank you, Jesus.
Thank you, God.
625
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:51,430
I just closed a deal with Lori.
626
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,340
I mean, that's exactly who I wanted
to work with when I came in here.
627
00:23:53,340 --> 00:23:54,470
Lori has so much expertise.
628
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:56,350
She's blown up
companies like Scrub Daddy
629
00:23:56,350 --> 00:23:58,850
and so many others that really
just needed that initial push.
630
00:23:58,850 --> 00:24:00,560
And that's really all I
need to get this out there.
631
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,350
I've reached a few
million people on my own,
632
00:24:02,350 --> 00:24:04,690
but I know that she can help
get that number way up higher.
633
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,370
Next into the Tank
is a product designed
634
00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:22,460
to blow away a
common cooking hazard.
635
00:24:30,130 --> 00:24:32,050
Wait. There's no
crying in cooking.
636
00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:35,050
Not if we have
anything to say about it.
637
00:24:35,050 --> 00:24:36,760
Hey, Sharks. My
name is Glenn Smith.
638
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,100
And I'm his daughter and
business partner, Madison Smith.
639
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,600
And today we are
here seeking $90,000
640
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,940
for 15% equity in our company.
641
00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:47,570
Sharks, for generations,
cooks around the world
642
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:50,400
have sought relief from
the infamous onion tears.
643
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,700
The burning, the
itching, my eyes!
644
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,410
Cutting onions is painful,
645
00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:57,070
and we have tried all the hacks,
646
00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:59,790
and none of them
have worked for us.
647
00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:02,580
We have tried chewing
on bread while cutting.
648
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,000
We've put a matchstick
between our teeth.
649
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:15,090
And this guy has even worn
yard goggles in the kitchen.
650
00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:16,430
And trust us, Sharks.
651
00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,390
None of these hacks
have worked for us,
652
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:20,060
which is why we invented...
653
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,020
the Fanion. The Fanion.
654
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:25,350
The Fanion is a
countertop cute cordless fan
655
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:27,190
that is placed next
to your cutting board
656
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:29,820
which simply blows away
the fumes and vapors
657
00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:32,570
of eye-irritating
vegetables such as onions,
658
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:35,570
shallots, peppers,
garlic, et cetera.
659
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,320
You'll only cry tears of joy.
660
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,870
It really is that simple.
661
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:40,080
So come on, Sharks.
662
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,620
Who's ready to chop
it up with the Fanion?
663
00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:44,540
And who's ready
to be blown away?
664
00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:46,790
Now, Sharks, no
need to get weepy.
665
00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:49,920
You each have a Fanion
to blow those tears away.
666
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,210
So you have an onion,
a knife, and a Fanion
667
00:25:52,210 --> 00:25:53,840
to really put this to the test.
668
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,420
Oh, wow. So there's
a lever on the back
669
00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:59,140
that'll turn it on, and
you can get to chopping.
670
00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,970
And, Madison, do most
people cry with onions?
671
00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:03,220
Yes. Yeah. I do.
672
00:26:03,220 --> 00:26:05,060
Now, why would you not?
673
00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:07,400
Like, I don't really
often cry. I don't. I don't.
674
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Like, this doesn't sting me
at all. Why would that be?
675
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,070
Really? I am told that
if you wear contacts,
676
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:13,480
that can be something
that-- I do wear contacts.
677
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,400
I wear contacts. If
you wear contacts.
678
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,660
If you wear contacts, you're lucky.
If you wear contacts, you're lucky.
679
00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:20,780
You know, a unique
attribute about vampires--
680
00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:24,000
I'm a vampire-- we don't
have to cry about onions.
681
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,660
We can cut any kind of
vegetable no problem at all,
682
00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:27,960
as long as it's dark outside.
683
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,710
Is this your full-time jobs? No.
684
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:32,960
And also, please
tell us about you.
685
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,630
You go ahead. I am a vice president
of a large U.S. poultry company.
686
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:39,590
I buy feed ingredients
to feed chickens.
687
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:40,970
And, Madison, what do you do?
688
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:42,350
After graduating
from Georgia Tech,
689
00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:43,640
I studied industrial
engineering,
690
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,100
and I've worked
in the technology
691
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,270
and supply chain spaces
for about the last four years.
692
00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:49,020
So this is a very
simple product.
693
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,270
I get it. How much to buy it?
694
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:53,480
We sell them for
$19.99 on our website.
695
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,070
And what does it cost
you to make them?
696
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:56,940
$8.09. Well, you
know your numbers.
697
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:58,610
How many do you sell?
698
00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:00,820
We launched in November.
We just launched in November.
699
00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:02,700
And? So about seven months.
700
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,490
We have sold almost 1,800.
701
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:06,040
We have $28,000 in sales.
702
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,620
That's not bad. Not bad at all.
703
00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:08,830
How are you guys promoting it?
704
00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:11,040
We've predominantly
done social media.
705
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040
We've put a lot of
money into running ads.
706
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,510
And how much money have
you spent on advertising so far?
707
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:20,300
On advertising, about
$17,000 to $18,000.
708
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,640
And how much money have
you invested to get it to this?
709
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,260
$468,000.
710
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:26,390
Wow. Hello.
711
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:28,310
That's a lot of
crying over onions.
712
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:32,020
Where did you get the
money to spend $468,000?
713
00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:33,770
Cash, credit, home equity.
714
00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:34,610
How? What did you used to do?
715
00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:35,730
Home equity, too?
716
00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:36,900
Home equity, as well. Correct.
717
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,400
Oi. O'Leary: Oh!
718
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,410
Whoa. But what did you
spend that on for this?
719
00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:43,410
Mostly inventory.
720
00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:45,620
How much do you have in
inventory at your cost? Inventory?
721
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,370
How much do you have
in inventory at your cost?
722
00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:48,830
31,000 units.
723
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:51,750
Oh, okay, so that's 250
grand, basically. Correct.
724
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:53,920
You got 31,000 units.
725
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,300
What is it costing you to
acquire a customer right now?
726
00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:58,460
Do you know?
727
00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:00,260
How much did you
spend on advertising
728
00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:02,590
divided by the number
of units you've sold.
729
00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:05,140
So $17,000 divided by--
730
00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:07,100
Almost 1,800. Yeah.
731
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,520
Right. So about 10 bucks a unit.
732
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,930
Yeah. So you're
breaking even, yeah.
733
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:10,940
O'Leary: Okay, this
is not a good number.
734
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:12,600
You're not making any money.
735
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,480
Right now you're losing some.
736
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,860
Yes.
737
00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:19,690
What's the plan to sell
the existing sunk inventory?
738
00:28:19,690 --> 00:28:22,820
That is why we are here, is
that we need help with that.
739
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:26,620
We really started trying to
go 100% direct to consumer.
740
00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:30,370
Over 10,000 Google
searches happen every month
741
00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:32,750
of people searching how to
stop crying while cutting onions.
742
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:34,210
I mean, there's
viral TikTok videos.
743
00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:35,790
This is definitely--
And it works.
744
00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:37,130
We know that it works,
745
00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:38,670
and there's not a
product out there like it.
746
00:28:38,670 --> 00:28:40,090
And everybody loves
a kitchen gadget.
747
00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:41,840
I mean, come on. Yeah,
but maybe there's a reason
748
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
why there's not a
product out there like it.
749
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,720
Look, guys, I give
you a lot of credit
750
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640
for diving in and going for it,
751
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,980
but this is too niche
a market, right?
752
00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,310
Because when you
limit it just to onions,
753
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:54,940
that's too small, right?
754
00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:58,150
And not a lot of people
are gonna spend $19.95
755
00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:00,780
just to be able to
do onions alone.
756
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,070
So for those reasons, I'm out.
757
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:03,570
Thank you, Mark.
758
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:04,820
Here's the thing.
759
00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:06,490
It's something that
happens all the time.
760
00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:08,280
I watch it with entrepreneurs.
761
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,240
You get so excited
that you don't realize
762
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080
one of the most
perilous pitfalls
763
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,660
when you first create a product
764
00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:16,920
is ordering in too much
inventory without sales.
765
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,380
You've sold 1,800 in
8 months, give or take.
766
00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:22,720
You're sitting on 31,000.
767
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,890
This could take you 10
years or more, right, to sell it.
768
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,260
So what I think you
should do, a suggestion,
769
00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:32,680
is sell it to someone at
your cost just to break even
770
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,140
but to get money back,
771
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:37,100
'cause you don't want to
sit on that big of an expense.
772
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,730
It's not a journey
that I want to take
773
00:29:39,730 --> 00:29:42,860
'cause I know it's a rough road.
774
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:45,700
But I wish you good
luck. I hope you try that.
775
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,950
I'm sorry. I'm out.
776
00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:51,660
You got a bunch of money tied
up in inventory here, 250 grand.
777
00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:53,870
So if you sold these
things at $9.99,
778
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:55,210
you'd get half your money back
779
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:57,960
and you'd say the
other was a lesson in life.
780
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,340
31,000 units, that's worth
crying about, not the onion.
781
00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:04,630
I can't help you
because I can't help you.
782
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800
I'm out.
783
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,890
All my friends that have
never started a business,
784
00:30:09,890 --> 00:30:11,720
they think that
starting a business
785
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,600
is like standing on
the edge of a cliff,
786
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,980
ordering 30,000 units,
and jumping into the water.
787
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:20,270
Great entrepreneurs
learn about controlled risk.
788
00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:23,940
You never want to make a
mistake that's gonna kill you.
789
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:27,950
It's very hard to come
back from the dead.
790
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:30,030
Kevin's done it, but very few.
791
00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:31,780
And by the way, it works.
792
00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:34,250
You made a big risk, and
now you're stuck with it.
793
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,370
You got to get rid
of that inventory.
794
00:30:36,370 --> 00:30:38,120
There is no, "We're
gonna grow our market.
795
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,540
We're gonna sell it here."
796
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,340
Get rid of the inventory
that you have, even at a loss,
797
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,090
even if you get 50
cents on the dollar.
798
00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:47,510
I disagree. They're
being very melodramatic.
799
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:49,390
No, they got to rid of--
O'Leary: Are you in again?
800
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:51,680
It's not dramatic. They took a line
of credit on their house to get here.
801
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,770
Okay, welcome to
the Onion Advice Tank.
802
00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:57,850
It's not for me 'cause
it's not investable.
803
00:30:57,850 --> 00:30:59,310
I hope you get some
of that cash back.
804
00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:00,440
I'm out.
805
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Glenn and Madison,
806
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,360
I love the fact that
you're working together.
807
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,610
My daughter's here watching
"Shark Tank" today. Yeah, I love that.
808
00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:09,450
And it's such a special thing.
809
00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,450
It's the most important
thing in the world,
810
00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:14,410
'cause my dad is no
longer here with me
811
00:31:14,410 --> 00:31:17,040
and I wish he was
around and I just miss him.
812
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,330
And I love the
fact that you guys
813
00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:20,460
can have this journey together.
814
00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:21,830
Aw.
815
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:24,750
I wish you the best
of luck, but I'm out.
816
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,460
Thank you very much.
Good luck, you guys.
817
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,130
Thank y'all so much. Madison,
you're great. Take care.
818
00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:29,380
It was nice meeting you all.
819
00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:30,590
Good luck, guys. I
hope you make it work.
820
00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:32,800
Good luck. Get some
of that cash back.
821
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680
There's an onion.
There's an onion.
822
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,690
Onions everywhere.
823
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:41,230
Come here.
824
00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:43,810
The message that we just
heard was, "Get rid of them.
825
00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:46,530
Cut your losses and go home."
826
00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:49,450
And, you know, if that's the
way it ultimately comes down
827
00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:51,610
and that's what happens,
it won't be for lack of trying,
828
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:52,910
but I'm not gonna punt.
829
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,840
Next into the Tank
is a stylish upgrade
830
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840
to an everyday appliance.
831
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,220
Hi, Sharks. I'm Alyse.
832
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:20,390
And I'm Sam.
833
00:32:20,390 --> 00:32:22,480
And we're seeking $600,000
834
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,900
for 3% of our
company, Rocco. Wow.
835
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,230
Actually, Sam, before we
get started, I'm a little thirsty.
836
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:29,610
Why don't you
just go grab a drink
837
00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:31,030
from my kitchen
fridge over there?
838
00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:32,950
One second,
Sharks. I'm so sorry.
839
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:34,530
There should be a soda in there.
840
00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:36,950
You might just
have to dig a little bit.
841
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:39,290
Oh. Oh.
842
00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:41,500
Oh! Sam. I hate it
when that happens.
843
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,370
I can't find anything in here.
844
00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:44,920
There's leftovers.
There's produce.
845
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Where's the drinks?
846
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,420
I think it should be
behind the lasagna
847
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,090
or the pizza box, maybe.
848
00:32:49,090 --> 00:32:50,340
No.
849
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:53,130
Oh. That's embarrassing.
850
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:56,640
Sharks, as you can see,
kitchen fridges are crowded.
851
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,890
They're cluttered.
They're just plain chaotic.
852
00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:02,520
That's why we created the
Rocco Super Smart Drinks Fridge.
853
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,850
It's designed as furniture
854
00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:06,190
so you can keep all
of your favorite drinks
855
00:33:06,190 --> 00:33:07,900
away from those leftovers.
856
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,030
And where you actually
drink them-- in the living room.
857
00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:14,740
You might be thinking, "Eh,
this is just another wine fridge."
858
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:17,910
Sorry, Mr. Wonderful, but
nobody just drinks wine anymore.
859
00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:20,290
We created a one-of-a-kind
shelving system
860
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:23,750
that accommodates all
sizes of bottles and cans,
861
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:26,830
everything from ginger
shots to champagne.
862
00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:30,550
The top doubles as a
pour, serve, store station.
863
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:32,460
AKA, it's also a bar cart.
864
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:34,510
And with our
patent-pending sight system,
865
00:33:34,510 --> 00:33:37,720
you can even see inside your
fridge right from your phone.
866
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,100
Imagine you're at
the grocery store.
867
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,470
You're having friends over later
868
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:42,640
and you can't remember
if you have enough beer.
869
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,350
Now all you have to
do is look at the app
870
00:33:44,350 --> 00:33:46,310
and you'll know exactly
how much you need.
871
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:49,650
So, Sharks, who's ready to do a
deal and pop some champagne?
872
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:51,150
Alright.
873
00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:52,740
I know what's coming. Alright,
you know what's coming.
874
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:53,780
I know what's coming.
875
00:33:53,780 --> 00:33:55,740
O'Leary: Un, deux, trois.
876
00:33:55,740 --> 00:34:00,030
Des Chevaliers du Tastevin!
877
00:34:00,030 --> 00:34:02,450
And in front of
you are the trays
878
00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:05,460
that come with the fridge to
kind of turn it into a bar cart.
879
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,620
How much is the fridge?
880
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:08,790
The fridge is $1,495,
881
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:12,670
and we currently offer
early-access pricing of $1,295.
882
00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:14,260
Is that a lot for a basic--
883
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:18,300
No, as a matter of fact,
I just bought two. No?
884
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,140
Not of yours-- I didn't
know about yours--
885
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,470
but of a different one.
886
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:24,480
And I will tell you,
yours is the right price.
887
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,190
And what the guy was trying to
sell me... How much did you spend?
888
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:28,850
...was three times as much.
889
00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:30,150
O'Leary: How does the app work?
890
00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:32,150
Do I actually see
into the fridge?
891
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:34,490
So every time you put
something in or take it out,
892
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:37,360
it automatically images it,
no scanning whatsoever,
893
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,950
and your app will update.
894
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:40,660
So I see shelf by shelf
by shelf? What do I see?
895
00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:41,740
Shelf by shelf.
896
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:43,660
That's an innovation
I haven't seen.
897
00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,500
Now, tell us about
the two of you.
898
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,160
Yes, so Sam and
I have a combined
899
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,210
20 years of
experience in start-ups.
900
00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:51,210
I cold e-mailed Casper,
the mattress company,
901
00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:53,170
and I helped build the
brand from the ground up.
902
00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:55,010
Then I went to Billie,
the women's razor brand,
903
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,380
which sold a few years ago
904
00:34:56,380 --> 00:34:57,840
to one of the biggest
CPG companies.
905
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,720
Sam spent many years at Away
906
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:01,680
leading supply chain
and product development,
907
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,510
and while he was at
Away, the suitcase brand,
908
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:05,520
his work actually took
him to fridge factories,
909
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,680
because believe it or not,
910
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,230
there are
manufacturing similarities
911
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:10,020
between fridges and suitcases.
912
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,360
You sell it for
$1,295 or $1,495.
913
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,860
What does it cost you to make?
914
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:16,740
So our landed costs are $575.
915
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,200
And then after shipping,
which is another $130 to $160,
916
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,910
depending on where
you are in the country,
917
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:24,410
it gets to around $750 to $775.
918
00:35:24,410 --> 00:35:25,910
So you don't have
much margin. No.
919
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:27,290
How do you sell it?
920
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:28,620
Direct to consumer.
921
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:29,960
How many have you sold?
922
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,380
Just over 3,000.
923
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:33,210
Sam, have you guys
raised a lot of money?
924
00:35:33,210 --> 00:35:36,260
We raised $1 million
about two years ago.
925
00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:37,710
At what valuation?
926
00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:40,220
That was at $10 million
on a post-money SAFE.
927
00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:42,510
Why are you telling us
you're worth $20 million now?
928
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:45,470
So that was two years ago
before we even had a prototype.
929
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:47,560
We've been in market
for eight months.
930
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,690
We've done $4
million of revenue.
931
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:51,190
We're profitable.
In eight months?
932
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:52,730
In eight months. And
you've shipped that?
933
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:54,440
Have you collected that
already? We've shipped that.
934
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,940
You've shipped
that. That's shipped.
935
00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:57,690
And we've ordered enough units
936
00:35:57,690 --> 00:35:59,530
to be able to do a $12
million year this year,
937
00:35:59,530 --> 00:36:00,700
which is what we're forecasting.
938
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,700
And on that $4 million,
939
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,200
how much have you spent
940
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,870
to create the buzz? $12 million.
941
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:08,080
So we have a return on
ad spend of five times.
942
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,580
So we spend about $250 per
fridge, or 20% of our revenue.
943
00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:14,130
Look, I like it.
I like the story.
944
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:15,420
I like the pitch. I
like the whole direct.
945
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:16,630
You guys are great.
946
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:17,920
I just don't like the valuation.
947
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,010
So here's what I'll do.
948
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,260
I'll give you the
$600,000 for 10%.
949
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:24,090
Well, they're
gonna jump at that.
950
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:25,720
I think they should.
951
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,220
I think they should.
952
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:29,470
Wow. That was a very loud laugh.
953
00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:31,310
That's how I laugh all the time.
954
00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:33,440
Look, I don't think you're
worth more than 6 million bucks.
955
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,770
I'm sorry.
956
00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:37,190
Guys, I think it's a
beautiful product.
957
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:38,780
I'm not sure I see the vision.
958
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,940
I just don't see it. I'm out.
959
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:42,700
Thank you. Appreciate
it. Thank you.
960
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,490
Guys, here's where I'm at.
961
00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:47,280
Look, great product,
great company.
962
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200
The problem is a math problem.
963
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,460
When you price it at
a $20 million valuation,
964
00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:55,710
in order for me to
get my $600,000 back,
965
00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:59,300
you have to do $20 million
in net cash flow profits.
966
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,960
$20 million cash flow profits,
967
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,090
3% of that is my $600,000 back.
968
00:37:04,090 --> 00:37:05,890
If I want to get
a multiple return,
969
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,010
since it's a risky environment,
970
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:09,140
let's just say
three or four times,
971
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:12,640
you need to do $60 million,
$80 million in free cash flow
972
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,980
to give me a return.
973
00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:15,980
That's the challenge of
making this investment.
974
00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:17,940
So for those reasons, I'm out.
975
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,400
Yeah, and I'm kind
of in a similar place.
976
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,950
It's very hard to imagine that
things could pan out in a way
977
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,110
that would be good
for you and for us.
978
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:28,620
I also was thinking about
how I could add value to you,
979
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,990
and I probably
could find a few ways,
980
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:32,960
but I don't know that I
would be the best Shark
981
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,870
for you for this deal, so
for those reasons, I'm out.
982
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:36,670
Thank you. Lori?
983
00:37:36,670 --> 00:37:38,500
You know, listen,
I love you both.
984
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:41,300
The real problem for
me is your valuation.
985
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,170
I mean, it's rough.
Mark said it all.
986
00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:44,930
I'm not even gonna
try to repeat it,
987
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,930
'cause he really said
it all quite squarely.
988
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,600
What would you
consider to be reasonable?
989
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,350
Yeah. We're open.
990
00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:53,520
Oh, you guys would
not want to even know.
991
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,890
Kevin was at 10%.
I'm gonna be honest.
992
00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:58,860
Like, to me, you're so start-up,
I would have been at 20%,
993
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,650
which you're never
gonna consider.
994
00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:02,190
It just doesn't feel
like the right deal.
995
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,860
So I'm sorry. I'm out.
996
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:08,910
All roads lead to Mr. Wonderful.
997
00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:12,450
Well, I really think you
heard it from everybody
998
00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:14,080
in the same succinct way.
999
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Valuation's a huge problem.
1000
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,870
I actually think your
offer is generous.
1001
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:20,040
I do. I gave them a
$6 million valuation
1002
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,630
with no path to liquidity.
1003
00:38:21,630 --> 00:38:23,130
So there's a lot of risk in it.
1004
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,300
I just happen to think my
social would blow this up so huge
1005
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,260
if you were able to
figure out a way to fulfill.
1006
00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:31,720
And I also think I
can reduce your CAC.
1007
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,600
Do you mind if we talk
about your offer for a second?
1008
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,890
Speak amongst yourselves.
1009
00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:36,100
Thank you.
1010
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,740
A lot of whispering going on.
1011
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,070
No, I've actually
been thinking about
1012
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:51,950
your free cash flow
comment. Uh-huh.
1013
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:54,370
But this is a category
where the free cash flows of,
1014
00:38:54,370 --> 00:38:56,910
say, Whirlpool, it's $1 billion.
1015
00:38:56,910 --> 00:38:59,170
Haier, who bought
out GE, it's $2 billion.
1016
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,710
How many products do
they have? They have five.
1017
00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:03,630
How long did it take them
to get there? 100 years.
1018
00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:05,630
What's happening here?
He didn't make the offer.
1019
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:09,930
Kevin has an off on the table,
which doesn't always stay there.
1020
00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:12,100
O'Leary: Actually, I have
to be honest with you guys.
1021
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,140
I'm out.
1022
00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:25,110
All five Sharks are out.
1023
00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,610
Sam and Alyse had an
offer on the table from Kevin
1024
00:39:27,610 --> 00:39:29,820
for their designer
beverage fridge, Rocco.
1025
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,120
But their hesitation
led to a change of heart.
1026
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,620
The only offer you had was me.
1027
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:36,830
And then you're
talking to Cuban again.
1028
00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:41,080
You know, Mr. Wonderful
doesn't feel good about that.
1029
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,500
You hurt his feelings.
1030
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,460
And I now will forget who
you are tomorrow morning,
1031
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:46,300
because there's gonna
be five more deals
1032
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,380
coming through that door. Kevin.
1033
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:50,380
I'm out. See you
guys later. Ciao.
1034
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:52,300
We wanted to offer a royalty.
1035
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,010
I'm not sure if there's a
way to get you back in.
1036
00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:55,760
What's your offer? What is it?
1037
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:01,140
We want to-- We can be a
little flexible on the valuation.
1038
00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:02,150
What's the offer?
1039
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:03,690
Let's do a royalty
1040
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:05,360
particularly tied
to your channels.
1041
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,030
No, I'm not doing that.
1042
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:10,610
The minute my name is on
this, it's every unit gets a royalty,
1043
00:40:10,610 --> 00:40:12,860
because all of a sudden
it's a Mr. Wonderful deal.
1044
00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:16,280
If you don't believe
that, talk to my 54 CEOs.
1045
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,540
See what they say. What's
the royalty you would give?
1046
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,160
Yeah, but only on what Kevin
generates is what he's saying.
1047
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,830
No, I'm not doing that.
1048
00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:23,880
I don't need a job. He's making
him a commissioned salesperson.
1049
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,500
I'm an investor with a
huge brand. I'm just curious.
1050
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,170
What's the royalty
you would give?
1051
00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:28,710
What would you give?
1052
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:31,340
You do the marketing numbers.
1053
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:33,260
I'm not doing that
deal. I'm not for hire.
1054
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:36,760
Well, just tell us what the
royalty was. I'm the one asking.
1055
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,760
It was $50.
1056
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,470
$50 a fridge... $50 a fridge.
1057
00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:41,430
...until you get
your money back.
1058
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:43,350
I just want to throw
something back at you.
1059
00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:45,190
Okay. No qualifiers.
1060
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:49,940
But $600,000, $50
a fridge. That's it?
1061
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:52,150
If we can keep the
regular equity ask,
1062
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:54,110
we'll do $50 every fridge
until your money's back.
1063
00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:56,490
3%? $50 every fridge.
1064
00:40:56,490 --> 00:40:58,740
Would you do it at 5%?
1065
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:00,080
4%?
1066
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,250
5%?
1067
00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:02,250
4%?
1068
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:03,710
5%?
1069
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:04,880
Can we talk about
that for one second?
1070
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,590
I'd do it at 3% in perpetuity.
1071
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:12,220
Which is forever.
1072
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:13,970
Take the deal. I
mean, you're gonna lift.
1073
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:16,090
And we plan to be
around for a long time, so...
1074
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:17,850
I do, too, I hope.
That's a long time.
1075
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:20,390
As long as Whirlpool.
1076
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,020
4% and until you
get your money back.
1077
00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:24,730
We'll meet you in the middle.
1078
00:41:24,730 --> 00:41:28,190
How about 4% until
I get my money back
1079
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:30,280
plus another $300,000?
1080
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,610
Done. Done.
1081
00:41:31,610 --> 00:41:34,110
There you go. Wonderful.
1082
00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:36,360
Boom! Ooh! Who knew?
1083
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,950
Now, I bought that other fridge.
1084
00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:39,490
Oh, my God. Well, we're
gonna have to replace them.
1085
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:41,290
Thank you, Lori.
Thank you so much.
1086
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,290
Thank you. Yeah.
Good deal. Good deal.
1087
00:41:43,290 --> 00:41:45,080
Thank you.
Congratulations, guys.
1088
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,750
Thank you. Thank you, everyone.
1089
00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:48,790
We did it!
1090
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:52,420
We got a Shark.
1091
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:54,930
They were all out, and
then she came back in.
1092
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,590
Whew.
1093
00:41:56,590 --> 00:41:58,010
I thought it was a great deal.
1094
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:59,930
I don't have anything to lose.
1095
00:41:59,930 --> 00:42:01,560
They're already selling them
within a year.
1096
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,230
You're putting up 600 grand
to make 300.
1097
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:04,810
They're selling that much.
1098
00:42:04,810 --> 00:42:06,480
If they're right, within a year,
I'm gonna make my money back.
1099
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,980
I think that deal sucks.
1100
00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:09,310
Well, of course
you think it sucks.
1101
00:42:09,310 --> 00:42:10,690
I'd never do that deal.
'Cause you didn't get it.
1102
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:12,440
It's a good deal, Lori.
Thank you, Mark.
1103
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,360
You're welcome, Lori.
1104
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,440
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