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Tonight
on "Shark Tank"...
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Sharks, which of you
are ready to...
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...jump in
and make a big splash with us?
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What are your sales?
$400.
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That sucks.
You're making zero.
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We put all of our money,
we got a HELOC loan,
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$300,000 on our house.
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Dang. You're coming in
here to solve a pain point.
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You don't have one.
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Everybody
who I went to said
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there's no way that
you can make this.
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So what's your vision?
What's your dream?
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Protecting my investors.
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That's the biggest mistake
that you can possibly make.
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It's also a bloody distraction.
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First in
the Tank is a tool
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that makes beauty
products more effective.
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Hi, Sharks. My
name is Dawn Myers.
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I'm from Baltimore, Maryland,
and I'm asking for $150,000
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for 10% of my company.
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Okay, guys, as you can see,
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I have a head
full of crazy curls.
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But unlike Beyoncé -- and
I saw you at that concert...
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I was there. ...I do
not wake up like this.
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Okay, for me, it takes about
three hours to do my hair.
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You heard that right. Wow.
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For people with highly
textured hair, it's beautiful,
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but it's complicated.
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It takes forever, it
makes travel impossible,
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and it takes all of this
to get the job done.
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But not anymore.
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That's why I developed The Mint,
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a patented 3-in-1 styling system
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that makes the process
of styling curly hair faster,
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easier, and healthier than ever.
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This is how it works.
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You simply load your pod.
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Think of them as coffee pods,
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except for your
styling products.
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And you let The Mint gently
warm and condition your products.
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That's where the magic happens.
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Then you streamline
the process of detangling
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and applying your liquid
products to get the easiest,
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fastest, most juicy
curls of your life.
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Sharks, this isn't
just about beauty.
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We're solving a deep pain point
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in the lives of 50
million Americans,
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and we plan on making a
lot of money while we do it.
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So, Sharks, who's
ready to create a world
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where curls and kinks are
catered to with The Mint?
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Fantastic. Thank you.
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So, I have curly hair. Not
that you'd know today. I know.
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It took me exactly six
hours to get ready for this.
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That's right. But
it's the same thing.
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So you're going to
say that this can work
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on any hair texture
imaginable? That's right.
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So, I very specifically
designed this
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to work on 4C hair.
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That customer is
super underserved.
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They spend the most
money in the market.
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Yes, they do. They're the
trendsetters in the market, right?
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So I wanted to make sure that
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they had a product
that worked for them.
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However, what we've seen
is that people with looser curls
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can benefit from this
technology as well.
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Emma, what's 4C hair?
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So, 4C hair is when you've
got, like, the most like curl --
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like the most coarse
hair texture, right?
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So it's like the super,
super curly hair.
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But what you're saying is
it's actually going to, like,
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pull the curls out, right? Yeah.
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It's just that it's
a styling tool.
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That's right. And
just to be clear,
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the product that's
going in the pod,
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currently, you don't sell.
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What you're
selling is the tool...
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That's right. ...with
an empty pod,
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and then I'm putting
in my own product.
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That's exactly right. Got it.
Alright. I just want to be clear.
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Can I buy multiple serum
cartridges from you?
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You can. And in
addition to that,
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we're also in talks
with Major Strategics
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about co-branding those
pods with their products.
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How much do you
sell it for, Dawn?
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We sell it currently for $400.
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What?! $400?!
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I know. Come on, give it to
me. Give it to me. I'm ready.
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I'm ready for it, Sharks.
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You are Dyson prices.
What is happening here?
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So -- So there's a story here.
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I bet there is.
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A hell of a story.
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Right now, we're charging $400
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because we had such a
small batch of products.
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Obviously, our COGS were huge.
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How many
was it? It was 100 units.
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Well, that's nothing.
Wow. Nothing.
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So it was really
difficult for us to do.
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What does it cost you
to make just 100 units?
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So to do 100 units,
it was $120 per unit.
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But now we've got a
handle on assembly,
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so we've got another
batch in China
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right now that's
on its way here.
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For that batch, we're
looking at a $60 landed cost.
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Nice. You brought that down.
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Why? Because we're
able to offshore --
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Are you going to
keep the price at $399?
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No. So -- But wait. But wait.
You said you've sold out, right?
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Yes. So if you're
only getting them
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in relatively small batches,
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why would you
not keep the price?
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That's a really good
question. Of course it is.
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So we want to focus
on this pod, right?
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The real seller of
this is this bottle.
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No, I know, but it's
still a limited number.
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So I get the more of these
you sell, the more pods you sell.
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Yeah. But how much
does the pod sell for?
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We're selling them in batches
of six on a subscription basis.
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They're $6 apiece,
and $36 per month.
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As you guys know,
hardware is hard.
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It's really expensive.
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It took us $1 million
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to build and test and
prototype and test --
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It did? $1 million?
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Yes. Talk to us about that.
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I could absolutely see it.
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How did you get that money?
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What a question. Can
I tell you the whole story?
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Yes, please. Please do.
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Okay, so I do not come from
a beauty or an engineering
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or a manufacturing
background at all.
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I'm a lawyer by training,
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but hair has always
been an issue.
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So when I was a little
girl, my mom is Black,
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but my stepmom wasn't.
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And so when I would, you know,
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leave to go to my dad's
for the summer holiday,
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I would leave the
house looking great.
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And then I would go
over to my dad's house
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and he didn't know
how to do my hair,
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and his wife didn't
know how to do my hair.
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And so I would just have
like a ball of fluff on my head
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for the rest of the
summer.
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What people sometimes
don't understand is that
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this hair issue is really,
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really emotional for
this consumer, right?
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It affects our
confidence. Right.
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It affects how we
walk in the world, right?
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Fast forward to 2017.
Guess what I'm watching?
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"Shark Tank." "Shark Tank."
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And it's the episode
with Tara Brown
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and the Sleep Styler.
The Sleep Styler, yeah.
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Yes, and so what I said is,
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"What if I build something
for this pain point
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that I know nobody is serving?"
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Put together this really
rudimentary prototype,
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and I started applying to
accelerators and incubators
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and pitch competitions.
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Everybody who I went to said,
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"There's no way that
you can make this.
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Regular people don't make
tech-enabled hardware."
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I got so many
no's, so many no's,
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and it's taken five years
to build this product.
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I ended up selling my home.
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I eventually would liquidate
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my 401 so that
we could build this.
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That's how you
got the million. You're all in.
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I'm all the way in. Do you
own the business 100%?
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I do not. We raised $1 million
in venture-backed funding.
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And, Dawn, how much did
you sell in equity for the million?
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Yeah. So we have
convertible notes.
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Once those notes convert, I
will still have 72% of the company.
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Good for you. Wow.
Okay. That's pretty good.
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You are amazing.
You are a dynamo.
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Let's talk
about the business.
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Yes. You're planning
to sell them for what?
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So with this smaller
COGS, with $60 COGS,
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we're planning on
selling at $200 per.
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Why $200 when you were
getting like -- Didn't you test...?
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Yes, but we want to rope people
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into this pod
subscription. No, you don't.
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Not when you make
that much money.
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Yeah? Right. It's not
like a $10 difference.
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That's cash in pocket. This
is really helpful. Thank you.
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Dawn, I think you're going to
figure out what you're going to
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sell it for pretty quickly.
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You've got to get
a lot more units.
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I think you need a Shark
with hair, on this deal.
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So... Basically.
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...I'm going to do the
graceful thing and bow out,
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but I have a feeling that this
might work out for you today.
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Thank you. That means a lot.
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Dawn, you're a
phenomenal entrepreneur,
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but it's really not
my space. Sure.
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I just don't know a
lot about the product.
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Thank you for teaching
me about it, but I'm out.
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Well, you are so impressive.
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My gosh. I mean,
honestly, you are.
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I have one major
challenge for me.
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I am in the midst of working
on a type of device for hair,
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which I am concerned would
be a conflict of interest... No.
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...if I go to this.
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For those reasons, I'm out,
but I will be watching. Thank you.
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Ooh. More encouragement,
but no money. I know.
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Yeah, I'm sorry. I
have a conflict. It's okay.
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If I didn't, I'd be in.
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Dawn, so, just talk me
through this for a second.
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I just need to hear what is
the plan for this business.
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Because you've
only sold 50 units.
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That's right. So
we're early stage,
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but we're early stage
and we're sitting across
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the table from Procter &
Gamble and L'Oréal right now.
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But what are those
conversations?
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Yeah, so they want to
do a strategic partnership
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where we co-brand these pods.
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So the model here is
that you're going to, like,
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have this piece
of hardware... Yes.
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...and you will sell a
co-branded product-based pod
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that is going to be the
insert into it. That's right.
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So we would come onto your site,
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I'd buy the piece of
hardware, and then I'd be like,
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"I use X, Y and Z product.
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I'll do that, that, or that."
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Exactly. It's a revenue
share, fundamentally.
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That's right.
That's exactly right.
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It's also a bloody distraction,
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and that's the bit that's
getting me right now.
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Okay. I just want to be
really honest with you...
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Please. ...because I actually
see the need for this product.
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When you've got curly
hair, you are so specific.
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When I do my curly hair, I use
like five different products in.
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A bit for the ends,
a bit for the middle,
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something for the roots. Yeah.
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I'm turning over,
and then I have
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my stage one and my stage two.
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It's just a whole drama
arena, right? Yeah.
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And I just think with
something like this,
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this should be what
you're talking about. Okay.
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Like, to do the other
thing, like maybe in five,
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six, seven years' time, but
you need to get out there,
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establish that this is
the thing for curly hair.
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Then we can talk about all of
the other stuff. Period. End of story.
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Period. I just don't feel like
you should muddy the waters
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at this early stage. That's
really good feedback.
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That's really good feedback. And I
get how other investors will tell you
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you want renewable revenue.
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Boy, but you sell these pods,
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then you have an ongoing
subscription revenue stream,
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and that's all marked -- No.
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When you are
disrupting an industry,
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focus on the disruption,
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because then you hope
somebody comes to you and says,
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"Let us pre-fill them
and sell them for you."
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So much great advice.
Is there an offer coming?
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I think we should make an offer.
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Alright. Alright.
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Three Sharks are out.
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Emma and Mark are
Dawn's last chances for a deal
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for her hairstyling tool
company, Richualist.
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I'd really like to
give you an offer,
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Because I just think
you're so spectacular.
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And I just understand this.
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Like, I know that I would go
home and use this product.
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Me, too. Like, I
completely get it.
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As does Mark. We've
been discussing it over here.
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Yes. So you asked
for $150,000 for 10%?
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Yes. And I think that
we would be willing
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to offer you that $150,000,
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but we'd need 20%
of the business.
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Wow. But
you get two Sharks.
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My gosh.
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My gosh!
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Well, what do you say?
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I'm just saying. Thank you.
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In the spirit of
protecting my investors...
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We have investors
at an $8 million cap,
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and I came into the Tank --
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There's a difference
between a silent investor
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that's just writing you a check
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and somebody who's
probably already saved you
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a lot of money
and a lot of effort.
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But it's your choice to make.
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It is my choice to make.
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Well, do you have
any flexibility?
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I'm not feeling that flexible.
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You're not feeling
that flexible?
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I'm not. I'll tell you why.
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Because I just know what is
happening with this business.
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And you are going to have
to go out, raise more cash.
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We're going to be diluted,
and I feel like the value,
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I mean, it's sitting
right here in front of you.
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Okay, so what are
you going to do?
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...my friends, in the
interest of doing my best
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to protect my investors,
would you be willing to do 15%?
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No, but we can do the
extra 5% as advisory shares.
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That works, Mark.
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20%.
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It seems they don't
have any flexibility.
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I am going to make this deal.
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Obviously, I'm making this
deal. Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
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Yes! Of course.
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Boom goes the dynamite.
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My God. My God!
304
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So good. Emma,
thank you so much.
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Thank you! I'm so happy for you.
306
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You're amazing. You're so
amazing. What an amazing girl.
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You killed it. Man!
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And, Lori, I would not be here
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if you hadn't made
that deal with Tara.
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Thank you for seeing
women's innovation.
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Thank you for supporting her.
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Thank you for
supporting me indirectly.
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My gosh. I'm humbled,
and thank you for sharing that.
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That means the world to me.
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Thank you. Thank
you, guys, so much.
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Congratulations, my love.
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Good job. What a sweetie.
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I got a deal with Mark and Emma.
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I'm so excited to get started.
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I've worked so hard
for so many years.
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I've bet on myself,
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and now that Mark and
Emma are betting on me, too,
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I know we're gonna blow this up.
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Earlier this season,
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15-year-old Nathaniel Wellen
made a deal with Robert Herjavec
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for his innovative
umbrella for two, The Duo.
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A second hidden,
adjustable handle
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so that two people
of different heights
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can share the umbrella
at the same time.
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Let's see what he's up to now.
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There is no competition
for an umbrella with two handles,
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because simply no
one's ever done it.
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As a kid entrepreneur,
it's challenging because
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while you get a lot of credit
for starting at a young age,
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a lot of people won't
take you seriously
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just 'cause you're a kid.
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The truth is, you really need
a team to get things done.
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We've now become
a very important part
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of the umbrella world.
340
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I'm so happy to have a
partnership with Shed Rain.
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They make over 15
million umbrellas every year.
342
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When I aired on "Shark Tank,"
we just had one prototype.
343
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Now we're doing our first
order of 10,000 umbrellas.
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We've also been able to
secure commitments from Target,
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REI, Nordstrom, and Macy's.
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Plus, you'll be able to buy The
Duo on Amazon and Shed Rain.
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For me, being an entrepreneur
has nothing to do with age,
348
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so for any kid entrepreneur
who's interested
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in starting their own business,
you have nothing to wait for.
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Go for it.
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"Shark Tank"!
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"Shark Tank"! "Shark Tank"!
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One of the
greatest things about our show
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is we see young
kids who we inspire.
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Earlier this year, we held
a high school sweepstakes
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where four students
got to do a video chat
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with their favorite Shark.
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I was just trying to win
pins, and I got a trip to L.A.!
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And one grand-prize winner
gets to come to Los Angeles
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to see us film live.
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And today we're at
Nathaniel's high school
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to talk to students
about entrepreneurship.
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This is going to be awesome.
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Inoculate yourself
against failure,
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because that's the
number-one thing
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you're going to have to
deal with as an entrepreneur.
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I love the overwhelming interest
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that these young kids have
towards entrepreneurship,
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and "Shark Tank" really
is a big reason why.
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You now have the
power of social media.
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And not only that,
you're all masters of it.
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You're never too
young, and I think it's great
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to encourage
these high schoolers
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to start a side hustle
while you're in school.
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This is an empowered generation.
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They can start businesses
right out of their basements
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the "Shark Tank" way.
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There's so much
hope in this country,
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and I just think people
want to do better,
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and we just give
them that platform.
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15 years
of making dreams
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and magic come true for
kids and all kinds of people,
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and it's so gratifying to
be a part of something
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that does good in the world,
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and let's do it for
another 15 years.
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"Shark Tank"!
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Next up is a product
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that takes multitasking
to the next level.
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Hello, Sharks. My
name is Mark Tsigounis.
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I'm a US Navy veteran
from Truckee, California,
391
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and today I'm seeking
an investment of $150,000
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for a 5% stake in Hibear.
393
00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:37,503
Now, insulated
bottles are fantastic
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for, well, carrying water,
395
00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:41,073
but they're really not so great
396
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if you're trying to make any of
your own beverages on the road.
397
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This...
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is the all-day adventure flask.
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You can craft all your
favorite beverages,
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from cold brew to cocktails.
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Sharks, let me show
you how it works.
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This one's in pour-over mode.
403
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Just add a coffee
filter, coffee grounds,
404
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a little hot water in the top,
405
00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:02,929
boom -- pour-over coffee.
406
00:16:02,929 --> 00:16:04,730
If you're decanting
a bottle of red wine,
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00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:07,066
there's a screen in the
middle that'll aerate your wine
408
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and catch you the sediment
409
00:16:08,367 --> 00:16:10,970
that you don't want in
the bottom of your glass.
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00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:12,238
Shaking cocktails?
411
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Ice in the bottom, cap
on your cocktail shaker.
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Fill the top with margarita,
head to the barbecue.
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This is the filter basket.
414
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This is for tea,
infusions, and cold brew.
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Just fill it halfway
with coffee grounds,
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screws to the center
of your cocktail shaker,
417
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and then fill the
top with water.
418
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And 12 hours later,
you are crushing
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super strong cold brew.
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This
is the thermal core.
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This is for keeping beverages
like beer and white wine cold
422
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without diluting them with ice.
423
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Also doubles as a muddle
424
00:16:46,038 --> 00:16:48,774
so you can get smashy
with limes and mint.
425
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The sleeve is removable
426
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:55,281
so it doubles as a mug
for friends and dogs.
427
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:57,049
Wow. Amazing.
428
00:16:57,049 --> 00:17:00,520
And everything nests neatly
inside, so there's no clutter,
429
00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,123
and it's simple enough to
be your everyday water bottle.
430
00:17:04,123 --> 00:17:07,426
So, Sharks, who's ready
to join us on an adventure
431
00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:10,429
that turns each day
into a celebration?
432
00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:12,465
I don't think you're doing
enough with the product.
433
00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:14,233
Thank you! Is there
no more features?
434
00:17:14,233 --> 00:17:16,569
Just when you thought no one
435
00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,504
could do anything more
with a water bottle...
436
00:17:18,504 --> 00:17:23,242
Yeah. ...you just created
something so innovative and unique.
437
00:17:23,242 --> 00:17:25,778
Thank you so much. Yeah. How
did you come up with them, Mark?
438
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So, I spent 15
years in retail finance
439
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and decided my life
needed a change.
440
00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:33,686
I was a thru-hiker on
the Appalachian Trail,
441
00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:37,523
hiked 2,186 miles
from Georgia to Maine.
442
00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,258
At once? 107 days.
443
00:17:39,258 --> 00:17:40,259
Wow. Yeah, yeah.
444
00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:41,861
You're on this trail... Yeah.
445
00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:45,998
...and you say, "I need the
James Bond water bottle."
446
00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:47,867
Because you're hiking so far,
447
00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:50,369
the things that you
carry need to do more.
448
00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,572
But, Mark, this is not
just for serious hikers.
449
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,474
This is for any camper or
anyone, right? Boom. You got it.
450
00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:58,444
Yeah. It also makes
the perfect corporate gift
451
00:17:58,444 --> 00:18:00,513
because you can
customize this thing.
452
00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:02,582
You have seven
different color blocks here.
453
00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:05,084
You have the under
art. We can do the box.
454
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So, how much does
it cost you to make it
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and what do you sell it for?
456
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So, our cost of
goods will be $15.50,
457
00:18:10,189 --> 00:18:12,191
and then the artist series,
which you all have here,
458
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is $95.
459
00:18:13,392 --> 00:18:14,927
Wow. Mark, how
does that actually
460
00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:17,163
compare to other water
bottles that are on the market?
461
00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:18,564
It's expensive as hell.
That's a fantastic question.
462
00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:21,600
So on the top end of the
market right now, you have,
463
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$59 for like a 36-ounce Yeti.
464
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Okay. So we're on the top end,
465
00:18:25,471 --> 00:18:26,906
but you're getting
10X the functionality
466
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of anything else
that's out there.
467
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:30,509
This is the most premium
you could possibly charge.
468
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It is the most premium.
469
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But we operate in three
different channels --
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D to C, retail, and
corporate sales.
471
00:18:36,682 --> 00:18:39,719
Break it up for us. Corporate
sales are 40% of our business.
472
00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:41,554
Really?
What are your sales?
473
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Collectively, we've
done $745,000 of sales.
474
00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:46,392
Wow! Hello, dear.
Over which period?
475
00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:50,196
So we launched on
Kickstarter in the year 2020.
476
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We delivered in 2021.
477
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What did you do last year?
Last year we did $320,000.
478
00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:58,304
So next year I'm projecting
that we'll do $1 million.
479
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And then we're going to
launch Amazon next year.
480
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You're not on Amazon?
481
00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:03,876
We're not even on Amazon.
Did you raise any money?
482
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Is there a debt on the
business? Yes. Yeah.
483
00:19:05,177 --> 00:19:07,179
So right now we
have $200,000 in debt.
484
00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:09,348
So you need the cash now. Yeah.
485
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I want to go back to the
numbers for a second
486
00:19:11,617 --> 00:19:14,253
because you said retail
is a significant portion of --
487
00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,889
No, no. I'm sorry. So,
retail only represents
488
00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:18,991
25% of the business.
Still, that's a chunk.
489
00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,327
So the margins are pretty good
490
00:19:21,327 --> 00:19:23,462
if you're just selling
direct to consumer.
491
00:19:23,462 --> 00:19:25,931
Why do you need retail at all?
492
00:19:25,931 --> 00:19:27,299
A few reasons.
493
00:19:27,299 --> 00:19:31,470
Retail is extremely
valuable to a brand that's new
494
00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:33,372
because consumers
aren't familiar with it. You --
495
00:19:33,372 --> 00:19:34,774
Part of what you need to do
496
00:19:34,774 --> 00:19:36,876
is just you need
to be next to, like...
497
00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:38,844
I'm going to argue that. ...all
those other outdoor brands.
498
00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,379
Mark, you see this
on a retail shelf,
499
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:43,215
you have no idea what it
does. What it does. Yep.
500
00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:45,551
This says absolutely
nothing. Yes.
501
00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,586
So you have to be
able to demonstrate it.
502
00:19:47,586 --> 00:19:49,422
I'm arguing to you -- and I
want to hear what you say.
503
00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:50,823
I'm pushing back a little
bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
504
00:19:50,823 --> 00:19:53,426
The plan is to
actually sell this direct
505
00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:54,860
to consumers at full margin,
506
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:57,363
because online
you're able to explain
507
00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:59,098
what you just did
here on "Shark Tank."
508
00:19:59,098 --> 00:20:01,033
Yeah, of course. Otherwise,
I would look at this and say,
509
00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:04,603
"This is the most expensive
water bottle I've ever seen,
510
00:20:04,603 --> 00:20:07,640
and it makes no sense
for me to pay $95 for it."
511
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,508
Yeah. Yeah. And at the same
time, they're not paying you
512
00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:12,211
and you're giving margin
away to a rep in the middle.
513
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:15,681
Yeah. You're
making $0 in retail,
514
00:20:15,681 --> 00:20:17,349
and a lot of grief and misery.
515
00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,485
I mean, our
markup is 2.13, like,
516
00:20:19,485 --> 00:20:21,220
in a retail environment, or 50%.
517
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:22,955
So you have to stay in retail?
518
00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:24,490
Not that I have
to stay in retail,
519
00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:26,726
but why wouldn't I be
there when it's just another --
520
00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:28,761
'Cause I want to make
money! I'd like to make money!
521
00:20:28,761 --> 00:20:30,596
Kevin, but you forget
his numbers, right?
522
00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:33,065
He pays 15 bucks for
one of these, right? Yeah.
523
00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,000
That's your cost. He's
got good margins. Right?
524
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,536
So if he just walked in
and said, "I'm selling to retail
525
00:20:37,536 --> 00:20:40,973
for $30 and it cost me $15,"
we wouldn't argue a whole lot.
526
00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:43,209
But what percentage of
your business is retail?
527
00:20:43,209 --> 00:20:44,443
25%.
528
00:20:44,443 --> 00:20:46,846
Why are we even
talking about this?
529
00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:48,180
It's a quarter of the business.
530
00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:50,282
Mark, so what's your
vision? What's your dream?
531
00:20:50,282 --> 00:20:52,485
Like, let's understand
what you feel is right
532
00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:54,019
for your business. Yes, so...
533
00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:56,589
what I want to do is, is
we want to expand the line.
534
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,157
But you're not
profitable yet, are you?
535
00:20:58,157 --> 00:21:00,159
No. We're not. Why do
you want to expand the line
536
00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,627
before you make money on
this thing? Well, let him explain
537
00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:02,762
what he wants to do.
538
00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:03,963
We want to fill
in the price point.
539
00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:06,465
Because just like
in -- in luxury goods,
540
00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,267
they have a model that's
called good, better, best, right?
541
00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,635
Like, not everybody's
going to go out
542
00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:11,337
and buy, you know,
the thousand dollar bag.
543
00:21:11,337 --> 00:21:13,772
But you have to
establish -- Look, Mark.
544
00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:15,808
You've invented a
really interesting product.
545
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:18,277
Yeah. And you're trying
to figure out how to sell it.
546
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,479
Yeah. And the challenge
you have right now
547
00:21:20,479 --> 00:21:22,281
is that it's too complicated.
548
00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,483
Online, actually, you'll
make it a little bit easier to sell
549
00:21:24,483 --> 00:21:26,852
because they always show
the product comparisons.
550
00:21:26,852 --> 00:21:27,987
Yep. But I think it's
going to be really,
551
00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:30,055
really hard to scale a lot.
552
00:21:30,055 --> 00:21:32,958
And so for those
reasons, I'm out.
553
00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:34,093
By the way, do you know
554
00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:36,128
your customer
acquisition costs online?
555
00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:37,963
Um, the last paid
ads that we did,
556
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:41,567
our customer acquisition
costs through Google was $52.
557
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:44,303
If that's true, we're
not making any money.
558
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,304
Per order.
559
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:46,472
Per order. Yeah.
560
00:21:46,472 --> 00:21:48,541
Mark, I really admire
what you've done,
561
00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:50,109
but it's a little bit
early stage for me.
562
00:21:50,109 --> 00:21:52,411
I think you're still trying to
figure out the product market.
563
00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:53,979
So for those reasons, I'm out.
564
00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:56,015
But I wish you the
best of luck with it.
565
00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:57,216
Thank you, Emma. Appreciate it.
566
00:21:57,216 --> 00:21:59,518
I'm just a straight
numbers guy on this deal,
567
00:21:59,518 --> 00:22:00,686
and tell me if I'm wrong
568
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:02,855
anywhere in this
stack of numbers.
569
00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:04,423
Sell it for 100 bucks.
570
00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:06,358
Customer acquisition
cost was $50.
571
00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:08,594
Leaves me with $50.
572
00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:11,297
I got to make it. Call it $15.
573
00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,032
Yeah. Leaves $35.
574
00:22:13,032 --> 00:22:14,667
That's the whole model.
575
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,736
So I would prefer to just
have a guy stand in front of me
576
00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:21,040
saying, "I make $35
every time I sell one.
577
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,109
That's all I'm
going to do for you.
578
00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:25,978
You just have to
give me $150,000,
579
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:29,448
and I'll make four, five,
six X on your money."
580
00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:31,584
But I didn't hear that story.
581
00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:34,954
I'm not into this deal. I'm out.
582
00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:37,323
Mark, I really,
really like you.
583
00:22:37,323 --> 00:22:38,991
I've been trying to
get my head around it.
584
00:22:38,991 --> 00:22:42,228
I think it's a novel product,
but it's a fanatical product.
585
00:22:42,228 --> 00:22:45,097
Wish you all the
best, but I'm out.
586
00:22:45,097 --> 00:22:46,265
Um...
587
00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:47,900
there's a million water bottles,
588
00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:49,201
and you were very clever.
589
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:53,138
Props to you for having
made something quite unique
590
00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:54,640
and, I think, very smart.
591
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,844
But I'm not ready yet to
invest. But I wish you good luck.
592
00:22:58,844 --> 00:23:00,713
So I'm out.
593
00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:02,114
Very clever, Mark.
594
00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:04,283
Yeah. Good luck.
Thank you so much.
595
00:23:04,283 --> 00:23:05,651
Taking my water
bottle and going home.
596
00:23:08,988 --> 00:23:11,890
It's been a magical journey,
and it doesn't stop for me here.
597
00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,892
And I can't wait to engineer
598
00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:16,362
and do new and
exciting products for --
599
00:23:16,362 --> 00:23:19,798
for not just adventurers
and outdoor enthusiasts,
600
00:23:19,798 --> 00:23:20,633
but for everybody.
601
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:34,013
Next up is an
innovation to help ensure
602
00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:36,415
you always safely
feed your baby.
603
00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:46,992
Hi, Sharks. I'm Veon.
And I'm her husband, Sean.
604
00:23:46,992 --> 00:23:48,294
We're from Fort
Lauderdale, Florida,
605
00:23:48,294 --> 00:23:52,064
and we're seeking $150,000
for 15% equity in our company.
606
00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:54,033
Honey, hurry!
607
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:55,934
The baby just woke
up and it's feeding time.
608
00:23:55,934 --> 00:23:57,303
Grab the fresh
bottle I just pumped!
609
00:23:57,303 --> 00:23:59,371
I have no idea
which one is good!
610
00:23:59,371 --> 00:24:00,773
No. How long
has this one been out?
611
00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:01,974
Check the Sticky Note!
612
00:24:01,974 --> 00:24:03,976
Sticky Notes. Right. Yeah.
613
00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:06,578
Sticky Notes?!
They're everywhere!
614
00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:09,381
Everywhere
except for the bottle.
615
00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:12,151
Sharks, breast
milk is liquid gold,
616
00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:13,786
but it doesn't last forever.
617
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:16,689
So to make sure your
baby has fresh, safe milk,
618
00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:19,124
you've got to track how
long it's been sitting out.
619
00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:21,960
So parents are left manually
tracking their expiration times.
620
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,064
We used to use Sticky
Notes, spreadsheets.
621
00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,433
Even the back of our
hands. But, Sharks,
622
00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:31,303
pumping breast milk takes time,
and buying formula costs money.
623
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,972
That's why we
created... - Veba.
624
00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:36,342
A smart baby bottle monitor
625
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:39,278
that attaches to any
bottle and tracks expiration
626
00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:41,313
of breast milk or formula.
627
00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,048
Here's how it works --
you simply prep the milk
628
00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:44,750
and slide the Veba
onto the bottle.
629
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:47,319
From there, it tracks the
temperature around the bottle
630
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,288
at all times and sends an alert
631
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:50,689
when the milk is expiring.
632
00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:52,324
Parents can even
track the expiration time
633
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:53,425
by shaking the bottle.
634
00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:55,494
It automatically
detects feedings
635
00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,996
and sends that
information back to the app
636
00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,766
so parents always know
that baby is eating enough.
637
00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:03,302
So, Sharks, who's ready to
shake up the baby industry
638
00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,037
and milk this deal?
639
00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:06,638
In front of you, Sharks,
are the Veba devices
640
00:25:06,638 --> 00:25:08,507
and baby bottles for
you to take a look at.
641
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:09,875
I remember these days.
642
00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:13,078
We have spent two years
actually developing the product,
643
00:25:13,078 --> 00:25:16,615
building it, and we
launched five weeks ago.
644
00:25:16,615 --> 00:25:17,516
Congrats. Wow.
645
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:18,884
Thank you very much.
646
00:25:18,884 --> 00:25:21,086
And our son was
actually the inspiration
647
00:25:21,086 --> 00:25:22,955
for coming up with the idea.
648
00:25:22,955 --> 00:25:25,958
During postpartum, I was
juggling work, you know,
649
00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:28,227
taking care of the baby,
doing so many things
650
00:25:28,227 --> 00:25:30,262
and having to track
my breast milk manually.
651
00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:34,133
And then one day, after spending
40 minutes pumping a bottle,
652
00:25:34,133 --> 00:25:36,268
I lost track and
had to throw it away.
653
00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:40,105
So give us how long the
shelf life is of mom's own milk.
654
00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:42,474
So four hours at
room temperature.
655
00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:45,644
In the fridge, it can
stay for up to four days.
656
00:25:45,644 --> 00:25:48,580
But the catch is that once a
baby drinks from the bottle,
657
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,083
the saliva mixes with
the milk and accelerates
658
00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:52,418
the expiration time.
659
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:53,652
At that point, you've
only got two hours
660
00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:54,953
to use the leftover milk.
661
00:25:54,953 --> 00:25:56,722
You can't put it back in
the fridge and extend it?
662
00:25:56,722 --> 00:25:58,390
No. You don't put
it back in the fridge.
663
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,826
Well, you know what? That
explains a lot about my kids.
664
00:26:03,328 --> 00:26:05,664
That just sucks.
665
00:26:05,664 --> 00:26:08,200
Yes, and so that's also
why it's so important
666
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,868
that we can detect feedings
667
00:26:09,868 --> 00:26:12,604
because it automatically changes
the expiration time for parents
668
00:26:12,604 --> 00:26:14,106
so they literally don't
even have to think about it.
669
00:26:14,106 --> 00:26:16,175
You have to break this
down for me a little bit.
670
00:26:16,175 --> 00:26:17,743
As a mom of four kids,
671
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:22,181
I've never, ever had
an issue around this.
672
00:26:22,181 --> 00:26:25,250
I'm not quite
following the need.
673
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,685
So, it is a big problem.
674
00:26:26,685 --> 00:26:28,554
So the number-one
thing is that also women
675
00:26:28,554 --> 00:26:30,789
who are under producers
are not even producing
676
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:32,891
milk enough to feed
their baby for one day.
677
00:26:32,891 --> 00:26:35,127
So that's also a pivotal
time where it matters
678
00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:37,496
if you have to throw
a bottle of milk away.
679
00:26:37,496 --> 00:26:38,931
But do I need multiple devices,
680
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,767
then, to keep on all the
different little vats of milk
681
00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:43,302
that I have in my fridge? Yes,
682
00:26:43,302 --> 00:26:45,737
so it would require
a device per bottle.
683
00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:47,539
How much do these
cost? What does it all cost?
684
00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:48,941
It's $89. $89.
685
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:50,242
What does it cost you to make?
686
00:26:50,242 --> 00:26:52,244
It's $45 right now.
687
00:26:52,244 --> 00:26:54,780
I'm going to be able
to get that down 30%.
688
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:58,116
Does it come with one or
multiple bands for that price?
689
00:26:58,116 --> 00:26:59,718
- It's just one band.
- Just one band.
690
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,020
And let me go back to just
a basic about this product.
691
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:05,090
Yes. I've just pumped
this. Here's my bottle.
692
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:07,059
I'm going to now
put this on the bottle.
693
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:08,660
Yes. And then what do I do?
694
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:10,762
So you just hit the
button on the device
695
00:27:10,762 --> 00:27:13,198
and it immediately starts
tracking the elapsed time.
696
00:27:13,198 --> 00:27:14,766
Okay, so that's it. Yeah.
697
00:27:14,766 --> 00:27:16,502
So in the app that
we've developed,
698
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:19,371
they're able to see how much
time is left across all bottles.
699
00:27:19,371 --> 00:27:20,672
It's also temperature.
700
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:23,509
So, if breast milk is
exposed to over 95 degrees,
701
00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:25,544
it accelerates the
bacterial growth.
702
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:27,579
We're from Florida, where we
know there's only one season
703
00:27:27,579 --> 00:27:30,415
all year long. 95 degrees.
704
00:27:30,415 --> 00:27:32,818
Yes, if we're on the go,
if we're going to the mall,
705
00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:34,753
that device, if we leave
the bottle in the car
706
00:27:34,753 --> 00:27:36,288
or even if we're
at the playground,
707
00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:38,156
it'll actually ping your watch
and tell you the breast milk
708
00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:39,691
is no longer safe to consume.
709
00:27:39,691 --> 00:27:41,026
It has expired.
710
00:27:41,026 --> 00:27:42,794
You're going to
need multiple devices
711
00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:44,229
to make this
actually make sense.
712
00:27:44,229 --> 00:27:46,532
Our average customer's
purchasing two at a time.
713
00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:47,833
You mention customer.
714
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,067
Let's talk about this,
715
00:27:49,067 --> 00:27:51,403
because it doesn't
matter what we think,
716
00:27:51,403 --> 00:27:53,138
it matters what the
customers think.
717
00:27:53,138 --> 00:27:55,474
What are your sales
like? Yes, absolutely.
718
00:27:55,474 --> 00:27:58,844
So we, as I mentioned,
launched five weeks ago
719
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:01,313
and we have $3,000
in sales since launch.
720
00:28:01,313 --> 00:28:02,714
How many users do
you have right now?
721
00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:05,851
So, we have a total of
about 70 users on the app.
722
00:28:05,851 --> 00:28:09,121
How much money have
you spent to get to this point?
723
00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:11,957
That's a total of
$350,000. Wow.
724
00:28:11,957 --> 00:28:13,125
We put all of our money.
725
00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:16,428
We got a HELOC loan,
$300,000 on our house.
726
00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:17,896
Dang. We put
everything into the app
727
00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:19,865
and in creating the product.
728
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:22,167
And so that took about
two years of development
729
00:28:22,167 --> 00:28:24,436
and also, most
importantly, safety testing.
730
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,305
So, guys, what is
the plan from here?
731
00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:28,273
What are you going to
do with the 150 grand?
732
00:28:28,273 --> 00:28:30,509
So, for that amount, we
want to put into marketing.
733
00:28:30,509 --> 00:28:33,445
For us, if we can activate
that base with marketing,
734
00:28:33,445 --> 00:28:34,880
that's going to put
us -- and scale us.
735
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,383
We have $178,000 worth
of merchandise ready to go.
736
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:39,551
Yes. How many units?
737
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:41,086
There's 2,000
units. 2,000 units.
738
00:28:41,086 --> 00:28:42,287
2,000? Alright. 2,000.
739
00:28:42,287 --> 00:28:44,122
Yes. And we're selling
them from our garage.
740
00:28:44,122 --> 00:28:46,325
Boxing them up, getting
them out to customers.
741
00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,961
Have you raised any
money? Yes, we have raised.
742
00:28:48,961 --> 00:28:52,397
We have a signed SAFE for
$1.5 million from a private investor.
743
00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:54,066
Wow. And outside of that,
744
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:56,935
we do have the first
investor from Techstars,
745
00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:59,338
and we just signed a
private investor last week.
746
00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:01,139
-That's a lot of support.
-Wow.
747
00:29:01,139 --> 00:29:03,208
I'm gonna just be
really honest with you,
748
00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:05,744
because I have four children,
749
00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:07,312
and you have these
plastic baggies,
750
00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:09,514
you write on the
baggies, you defrost,
751
00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:11,049
it goes into the fridge.
752
00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:13,452
For a cost-conscious mother,
753
00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:17,089
$89 and needing 2 or 3 of
these ain't that great either.
754
00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,991
So it is great,
because in total,
755
00:29:18,991 --> 00:29:21,226
if you add up the $5 per ounce,
756
00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,996
48 ounces a day, you're
talking $90,000 a year.
757
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,431
You're presuming that
you're actually wasting 100%.
758
00:29:26,431 --> 00:29:30,035
Yes. Your device isn't stopping
breast milk from going bad.
759
00:29:30,035 --> 00:29:31,236
It's alerting. Right.
760
00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:32,337
So you've still -- you're not --
761
00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:33,505
you're not getting
rid of the problem.
762
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:34,973
You're just creating an alarm
763
00:29:34,973 --> 00:29:36,775
for when the problem
is about to happen.
764
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:41,947
To me, this just feels like
another unnecessary purchase.
765
00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:43,882
Thank you, Emma. I --
Honestly, I just want to say,
766
00:29:43,882 --> 00:29:46,218
for those reasons, I'm out.
767
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:47,586
I cannot wrap my head around it.
768
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:49,087
Thank you, Emma. I
do appreciate it. Yes, sir.
769
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:50,889
I have
five-year-old twins,
770
00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:53,959
and I don't remember
this as a problem.
771
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:57,596
And I remember
a lot of problems.
772
00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:01,033
So for me, I'm out.
773
00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:02,434
From a mom's perspective,
774
00:30:02,434 --> 00:30:04,469
I can understand where
Emma's coming from.
775
00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,772
From the absent-minded
dad perspective,
776
00:30:06,772 --> 00:30:08,273
I can see the value.
777
00:30:08,273 --> 00:30:10,308
But you're being way too
literal in trying to sell this.
778
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,510
Okay. Right?
779
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:13,312
You're trying to make
this about saving money.
780
00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,113
Don't. Yes.
781
00:30:15,113 --> 00:30:17,983
That's the biggest mistake
that you can possibly make.
782
00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:21,320
But during that emotional time
when you're trying to get a gift
783
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,556
for a new mom for
their baby, perfect.
784
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:26,491
Go to places for baby showers,
785
00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:28,193
where people
who buy the gifts --
786
00:30:28,193 --> 00:30:31,096
But all that said, it's
really not a fit for me.
787
00:30:31,096 --> 00:30:32,764
Yeah. So for those
reasons, I'm out.
788
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:35,367
Yeah, I do want to
also add that the feature
789
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:36,935
that's been the most
popular with our customers
790
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:38,370
is the Find My Bottle feature.
791
00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:40,072
Are people losing bottles?
792
00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:41,973
Yeah. They end up
in the most random places.
793
00:30:41,973 --> 00:30:43,709
Well, a baby just chucks it.
794
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,811
Yeah, we find bottles
under car seats.
795
00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:46,912
You should search,
Robert. Maybe you have.
796
00:30:46,912 --> 00:30:48,080
Let me
take a stab at it.
797
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,748
This narrative you're
having right now
798
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:53,085
is exactly the challenge you
face in acquiring customers.
799
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:55,320
It is worth also saying
we've been approached
800
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,255
by big box retailers
already, actually.
801
00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:00,459
At this point, you don't
have the margin for retail.
802
00:31:00,459 --> 00:31:01,893
But look, that's
your own decision.
803
00:31:01,893 --> 00:31:03,829
I would not do that,
but... Yeah, so --
804
00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:05,864
...it doesn't matter what
I think because I'm out.
805
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,232
Yes. Thank you so
much. Thank you, sir.
806
00:31:07,232 --> 00:31:08,333
And Lori?
807
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:11,803
I think that for
first-time parents,
808
00:31:11,803 --> 00:31:15,941
they're going to want this more
per se than second-time parents.
809
00:31:15,941 --> 00:31:20,412
But you are so
early, I mean, for me.
810
00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:22,347
Yes. I wish you good luck.
811
00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:24,850
I think you're lovely, and
I love what you've done,
812
00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:27,486
but it's just not an
investment for me at this time.
813
00:31:27,486 --> 00:31:28,954
I'm sorry. I'm out.
814
00:31:28,954 --> 00:31:30,689
Thank you so much. Awesome.
Well, thank you, everyone.
815
00:31:30,689 --> 00:31:32,124
-Good luck.
-Good luck to you.
816
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:33,291
Congratulations for
what you've done.
817
00:31:33,291 --> 00:31:34,192
Good luck, you guys.
818
00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:35,427
Thank you. Thank you.
819
00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:40,499
We didn't get a Shark today,
820
00:31:40,499 --> 00:31:42,801
but we're very confident
in our product. Yes.
821
00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:44,369
And, you know, we hit everything
822
00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:45,504
that we wanted to say,
823
00:31:45,504 --> 00:31:47,205
and so we walked
out of there confident.
824
00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:50,175
And we know that this is just
the beginning for Veba babies.
825
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,715
I love the product.
I hate the margins.
826
00:31:56,715 --> 00:31:58,683
I'll give you the $75,000.
827
00:31:58,683 --> 00:31:59,885
I don't want any equity.
828
00:31:59,885 --> 00:32:02,888
I want a dollar from every jar.
829
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:05,624
A dollar?
830
00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:06,992
Silence, please.
831
00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:09,594
The first royalty deal in
"Shark Tank" history was mine.
832
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,196
Wicked Good Cupcakes.
833
00:32:11,196 --> 00:32:14,900
I want a dollar from every
jar until I get my $75,000 back.
834
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,069
Which means you
have to sell 75,000 jars.
835
00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:21,173
Alright? And then I want it
to drop to $0.50 in perpetuity.
836
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,975
How was I going to
get my money back?
837
00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:26,945
And it hit me. Bing! Royalty!
838
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:28,547
Come to mama!
839
00:32:30,916 --> 00:32:32,784
It changed the world forever.
840
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,319
All the other Sharks copied me.
841
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,855
They begged me
for that brilliance.
842
00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:38,190
I like my deal,
843
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:39,891
and I'll sleep tonight
with a cupcake beside me.
844
00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:48,600
Next up
is a family business
845
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,137
with an easier way for
kids to have fun in the water.
846
00:33:00,345 --> 00:33:01,947
Hey, Sharks, I'm Ashley.
847
00:33:01,947 --> 00:33:03,715
And I'm Karen, her mom.
848
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:04,950
We are from Goodyear, Arizona,
849
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:08,687
and we are seeking $200,000
for 5% of our business,
850
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:11,756
Splash Place Swim Goggles.
851
00:33:11,756 --> 00:33:13,725
Sharks, that's how
quickly a fun day at the pool
852
00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:15,060
can turn into a nightmare.
853
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:16,394
You're at the pool
and you have to deal
854
00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:18,930
with upset kids because
their swim goggles break,
855
00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:21,733
or they're just too tight
and uncomfortable.
856
00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,370
And the worst part is, is they
tangle and pull out your hair.
857
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:27,672
I knew there had to
be a better way, Sharks.
858
00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:30,442
That's why I created
Splash Place Swim Goggles.
859
00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:32,711
Fed up with buying
my kids new goggles
860
00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:34,379
that they wouldn't
even want to wear,
861
00:33:34,379 --> 00:33:36,615
I got the idea to make my own.
862
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:39,384
But instead of using
harsh rubber straps,
863
00:33:39,384 --> 00:33:42,988
I designed Splash Place
Swim Goggles with super soft,
864
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,723
stretchy fabric straps.
865
00:33:44,723 --> 00:33:45,757
Wow!
866
00:33:45,757 --> 00:33:47,459
As you can see, Ayden and Jayla
867
00:33:47,459 --> 00:33:50,829
are having no problem
putting on their swim goggles
868
00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:53,832
and there's simply no more
pulling and tangling your hair.
869
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:56,167
So, Sharks, which
of you are ready to...
870
00:33:56,167 --> 00:33:59,471
...jump in and
make a big splash with us?
871
00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:01,273
Good job.
Aww. Well done, guys.
872
00:34:01,273 --> 00:34:03,341
Ashley, are those
actually your kids?
873
00:34:03,341 --> 00:34:04,943
-Yes.
-Aww!
874
00:34:04,943 --> 00:34:06,745
Sharks, you all
have some samples
875
00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:08,246
in front of you.
876
00:34:08,246 --> 00:34:10,115
- Thank you, guys.
- Good job, guys.
877
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:13,051
-Aww!
-Aww!
878
00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:15,453
Good job,
guys. These are very --
879
00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:18,056
I mean, just picking
them up immediately...
880
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:20,592
This is so soft, so stretchy.
881
00:34:20,592 --> 00:34:22,327
You can tell, super comfortable.
882
00:34:22,327 --> 00:34:24,663
I am -- Every time
my daughter puts the --
883
00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:26,865
she hates it, screaming,
gets caught up in her hair.
884
00:34:26,865 --> 00:34:27,966
That's my daughter. Yeah,
885
00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,935
I'm always like, "Why
can't somebody invent
886
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:30,969
better goggles?"
887
00:34:30,969 --> 00:34:32,037
Very clever. Here, they did.
888
00:34:32,037 --> 00:34:33,538
- Here, they did.
- It's really good.
889
00:34:33,538 --> 00:34:35,707
This is amazing for
kids. I'm doing the same.
890
00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,009
Swimming lessons with
my children at the moment,
891
00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:39,544
and it's a nightmare.
892
00:34:39,544 --> 00:34:40,812
- This is so good.
- A nightmare.
893
00:34:40,812 --> 00:34:41,947
So, Ashley, the innovation
894
00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:43,915
- is on this back strap.
- Yes. Yep.
895
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:47,218
And why don't people knock
you off right away with this?
896
00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:49,087
We are patent-pending currently.
897
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:51,489
Is there anything
else out there like this?
898
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:54,192
Not with a
swimsuit-style fabric.
899
00:34:54,192 --> 00:34:56,328
And one thing kids
like, the designs.
900
00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:58,296
We have like over 25 designs,
901
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,765
and they like that they can
choose their own designs. Wow.
902
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:01,967
Well, the
designs are great.
903
00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:03,034
I mean, you guys are great.
904
00:35:03,034 --> 00:35:05,437
Tell us, how did you
come up with this?
905
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:09,374
Previously, I had a sewing
business that I had started.
906
00:35:09,374 --> 00:35:12,711
Um, I had, um...
907
00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:16,581
a son that passed away when
he was six weeks old. I'm sorry.
908
00:35:16,581 --> 00:35:21,620
I'm so sorry. So,
one year after his passing,
909
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:25,457
my kids' dad, he suffered
like a severe brain injury.
910
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:29,327
And so I started the sewing
business during that time
911
00:35:29,327 --> 00:35:33,064
to be able to
provide for our family,
912
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:37,102
and I also had to stay home
to be able to take care of him.
913
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:40,205
And so when we were
getting ready for a vacation,
914
00:35:40,205 --> 00:35:42,307
my son brought me
his goggles broken
915
00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:45,777
and I just didn't want to
go buy more goggles, really,
916
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:49,814
and so I, um, decided to
make my own strap for them.
917
00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:52,684
Ashley, I'm so sorry to
hear that. Yes, Ashley, I just
918
00:35:52,684 --> 00:35:54,853
wanted to say that, too.
Like, that is an unimaginable...
919
00:35:54,853 --> 00:35:57,022
unimaginable pain.
So sorry for your loss
920
00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:58,156
and for your hardship.
921
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:00,892
You turned it into
such a positive thing.
922
00:36:00,892 --> 00:36:03,395
Yeah. Yeah, she's the
strongest person I know. She is.
923
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:04,929
Well, that's obvious.
924
00:36:04,929 --> 00:36:08,867
So, um...what about sales?
925
00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:12,303
So, lifetime sales
are $6.1 million.
926
00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:14,839
Whoa! Yeah!
927
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:16,508
Now you're talking!
928
00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,277
That just squeaked out really
quiet with really big news. What?!
929
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:22,213
Are you kidding?
Like -- Like, walk --
930
00:36:22,213 --> 00:36:23,715
Walk us through the
sales. Over what period?
931
00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:27,786
So, we started in May...
932
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:29,654
May of 2017.
933
00:36:29,654 --> 00:36:32,157
What did you do
last year in sales?
934
00:36:32,157 --> 00:36:33,892
$1.75 million.
935
00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:35,160
Wow! Bloody hell.
936
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,995
And this year? What
will you do this year?
937
00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:39,664
Um, we should do $1.8 million.
938
00:36:39,664 --> 00:36:41,499
And are you profitable? Yes.
939
00:36:41,499 --> 00:36:42,600
And how much are you making?
940
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,739
This year, we've
done $378,000 in profit.
941
00:36:47,739 --> 00:36:49,441
-Wow.
-Wow.
942
00:36:49,441 --> 00:36:51,509
How are you selling these?
How are you selling these?
943
00:36:51,509 --> 00:36:54,312
We're on Amazon, and
then we also have a website.
944
00:36:54,312 --> 00:36:56,014
And we're in a
lot of wholesale --
945
00:36:56,014 --> 00:37:00,952
We sell internationally, and
also we're in swim schools,
946
00:37:00,952 --> 00:37:04,656
a lot of boutiques, a lot of
resorts. Who did all that?
947
00:37:04,656 --> 00:37:05,890
Yeah. What's your team?
948
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,325
Is it just the two of you?
949
00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:08,760
Yeah. Only the two of you?
950
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,796
We have 14 women,
stay-at-home moms,
951
00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:14,599
that we contract with
them to make the goggles.
952
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,101
And then we have two
part-time employees --
953
00:37:16,101 --> 00:37:18,603
So, you two are -- you two
are full-time running this thing?
954
00:37:18,603 --> 00:37:20,171
And you're making them
just through contract--
955
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:21,706
contracted women
that are local to you?
956
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:24,542
Yeah, so they assemble...
That's amazing!
957
00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,544
You're the
best. That's incredible.
958
00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:27,779
And it's a win-win situation
959
00:37:27,779 --> 00:37:29,514
because we help
them, they help us.
960
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:30,815
What do you sell
them for, Ashley?
961
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:34,285
So we retail the
regular goggles for $21.
962
00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:35,687
They cost us
963
00:37:35,687 --> 00:37:39,491
a little less than $3 fully
assembled, ready to go with.
964
00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:40,592
With the sewing and everything?
965
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:42,026
Yeah. You guys are amazing!
966
00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:43,995
My God, that's
just so amazing.
967
00:37:43,995 --> 00:37:45,497
You need to write a
book on this. I'm serious.
968
00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:47,098
Ashley, this is pretty good.
969
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,500
That is really good!
970
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,102
Yeah, we feel like, you
know, she's had a lot of tragedy
971
00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,271
in her life, but
we felt that this...
972
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:54,439
Nothing tragic here.
973
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:56,941
This has been such
a blessing, you know,
974
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,511
to be able to provide for
her and her -- you know,
975
00:37:59,511 --> 00:38:01,479
and then, you know,
we get to work together.
976
00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:03,047
Every entrepreneurial ste--
977
00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:05,617
Every entrepreneurial
stereotype that entrepreneurs
978
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:08,520
come in and tell us
that they can't do,
979
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,255
you just stood on
their head and did it.
980
00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:12,390
You're making it
locally. You're profitable.
981
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:14,259
You're growing.
982
00:38:14,259 --> 00:38:15,927
- Thank you.
- And, you know,
983
00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:19,030
what's kind of lovely is you
both seem so humble about it.
984
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:21,232
Where was the first
sale? Online, or...?
985
00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:22,133
Online, yeah. Online, yeah.
986
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:23,134
Just on your website.
987
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:24,869
How did you create
the awareness?
988
00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:26,171
Yeah. Like,
what marketplace?
989
00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:27,839
We just launched our
website, and I shared it
990
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,275
on a moms, like,
Facebook group originally.
991
00:38:30,275 --> 00:38:32,410
And we -- I don't know,
I think we probably had
992
00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:34,245
100 orders our first, like, day.
993
00:38:34,245 --> 00:38:36,948
Unpaid social. You drove
sales with unpaid social.
994
00:38:36,948 --> 00:38:39,617
Our lifetime spend
on advertising
995
00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:41,452
is less than $150,000.
996
00:38:44,189 --> 00:38:45,256
Unbelievable.
That's just amazing!
997
00:38:45,256 --> 00:38:46,991
You two are unbelievable.
998
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:48,426
That's just crazy. So
what do you want the --
999
00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:49,561
You guys are my heroes.
1000
00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:52,230
What do you want
the $200,000 for?
1001
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:56,501
Um, we do want to make a
couple other molds of goggles,
1002
00:38:56,501 --> 00:38:59,404
and we are also, like,
negotiating with larger
1003
00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:01,940
brick-and-mortar
sporting goods stores.
1004
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:04,375
Guys, who owns this company
between the two of you?
1005
00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:05,777
We own it 50-50.
1006
00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:08,012
And so you've never
brought in any other investors?
1007
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,314
No. Good for you.
1008
00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:11,115
How much money
did you have to put in?
1009
00:39:11,115 --> 00:39:13,551
So we each put in about $2,400.
1010
00:39:13,551 --> 00:39:18,356
Then one of our first orders,
I loaned the business $4,000.
1011
00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:20,458
Wow. It's so good. So good.
1012
00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:22,093
You paid Mom back?
1013
00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:26,731
Well, guys, I don't know
how to add anything to this.
1014
00:39:26,731 --> 00:39:30,401
This is a -- This is pretty rare
for "Shark Tank," because...
1015
00:39:30,401 --> 00:39:31,436
What's your weakness?
1016
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:32,870
...usually you're coming in here
1017
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,906
to solve a pain point.
1018
00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:37,809
You don't have one.
1019
00:39:37,809 --> 00:39:39,444
When you bring in an investor,
1020
00:39:39,444 --> 00:39:41,846
all of a sudden you've
got a new responsibility
1021
00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:44,415
because your
investors want returns.
1022
00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:48,253
And so, you know, that would
put a new pressure on you.
1023
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:50,588
I don't know why you
would do that to yourselves.
1024
00:39:50,588 --> 00:39:52,290
You don't need anything.
1025
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,503
All Sharks are
still in, but Kevin questions
1026
00:40:05,503 --> 00:40:07,906
whether it's in Ashley
and Karen's best interest
1027
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:11,009
to take on an investor for
their kids goggle company,
1028
00:40:11,009 --> 00:40:12,877
Splash Place Swim Goggles.
1029
00:40:12,877 --> 00:40:16,180
You're coming in here
to solve a pain point.
1030
00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:21,119
You don't have one.
You don't need anything.
1031
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,122
I wish you the best
of luck, but I'm out.
1032
00:40:24,122 --> 00:40:26,291
Okay.Can I ask you,
what do you need?
1033
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:29,227
So, you know, what -- what
do you feel is your weakness?
1034
00:40:29,227 --> 00:40:30,828
What do you need from a Shark?
1035
00:40:30,828 --> 00:40:33,564
Um, just the mentorship
as we, like, explore
1036
00:40:33,564 --> 00:40:36,234
going into, like, larger
brick-and-mortar.
1037
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:39,070
I mean, we don't have
experience in that at all.
1038
00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:40,571
And whether that's
even a good idea,
1039
00:40:40,571 --> 00:40:41,806
because I know sometimes,
1040
00:40:41,806 --> 00:40:44,275
you know, big retail
isn't always the best.
1041
00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:46,678
And so probably
guidance in that.
1042
00:40:46,678 --> 00:40:48,246
Yeah, 'cause it's not like you
1043
00:40:48,246 --> 00:40:50,515
went through this
horribly tragic time
1044
00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:53,251
and built a $7 million
business on your own.
1045
00:40:54,552 --> 00:40:56,988
I absolutely could not
love the product more.
1046
00:40:56,988 --> 00:40:59,357
I will be a huge customer.
1047
00:40:59,357 --> 00:41:01,592
As an investor, I
tend to look for things
1048
00:41:01,592 --> 00:41:05,029
that are going to be a
little more expansive.
1049
00:41:05,029 --> 00:41:06,030
I'm out.
1050
00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,432
Thank you. I appreciate it.
1051
00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:10,935
Listen, I just want to
be a part of your journey
1052
00:41:10,935 --> 00:41:13,504
because I think you're
amazing and I think
1053
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:16,407
I can give you the value
add that you're looking for.
1054
00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:17,976
Um...
1055
00:41:17,976 --> 00:41:20,044
I'll give you the
$200,000 for 10%.
1056
00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:22,447
Okay.
1057
00:41:26,851 --> 00:41:27,986
Yeah. What...?
1058
00:41:27,986 --> 00:41:29,487
Would you do 7.5%?
1059
00:41:32,623 --> 00:41:35,326
I'll do 10%, and
I'll tell you why.
1060
00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:37,628
Because you really
want me to be invested.
1061
00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:39,097
You want me to be carrying you.
1062
00:41:39,097 --> 00:41:40,631
You do, guys. She
would be amazing.
1063
00:41:40,631 --> 00:41:43,568
My entrepreneurs call me
like anytime, day or night.
1064
00:41:43,568 --> 00:41:44,936
I'm there for them.
1065
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:46,738
And that's why I think
it's worth it for me.
1066
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:48,773
I want to feel good
about my time,
1067
00:41:48,773 --> 00:41:52,543
and I want to be able
to give you the best time.
1068
00:41:52,543 --> 00:41:53,644
Wanna do it? Yeah.
1069
00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:54,946
You have a deal.
You have a deal.
1070
00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:56,347
Yay!
1071
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:58,316
Good one!
1072
00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,018
Thank you guys all so much.
1073
00:42:00,018 --> 00:42:01,352
Well done. Congratulations.
1074
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:03,054
We were so excited to
have you. You are amazing!
1075
00:42:04,822 --> 00:42:06,424
Congratulations,
guys. Thank you all.
1076
00:42:06,424 --> 00:42:08,026
Congratulations.
1077
00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:12,163
Our deal with Lori
is going to really be amazing.
1078
00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:16,134
We'll be able to grow and
have her expertise and wisdom.
1079
00:42:16,134 --> 00:42:18,669
It's going to be
really amazing. Yeah.
1080
00:42:18,669 --> 00:42:21,005
We did it! Aah!
1081
00:42:22,507 --> 00:42:25,376
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