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Previously
on Forgive Me.

You need to go
and seek some help

to conquer your demon.

You can not tell me that
my faith is not enough

to guide me and to help me.

Your faith--

You can do your job.

You can't just walk
into a confessional

and tell me that
you're a pedophile

and then ooh baba boom,
God's just gonna forgive you,

okay, that's not the
way that it works.

It does work that way.

This is my friend Noelle.

Noelle, this is Granny.

Hi.

I want you to see a doctor.

What's the matter with him?

Nothing.

He's not sleeping.

I got a lot on my mind.

♪ Ave Maria

♪ Ave Maria

♪ Ave Maria

♪ Ave Maria

They rezoned the
voting districts again.

No more minority zones, and
more like pieces of a pie

from downtown fanning out.

So we get urban voters

and country voters
in each district.

But people were saying
it's going to lead to

an all white English council

that doesn't represent anybody.

Yeah but if some people's
vote counts for more

than others, that's
not really a democracy.

So what do you think
about the new council...

It's not always better and
certainly wasn't in this case

and there are gonna be
fewer of those prima donnas

putting on these
ridiculous performances.

Now politics is just
like show business

look at Lady Gaga.

Oh please Lady Gaga owes a
list of citations to Madonna.

Exactly it's a reference.

It's practically sampling.

It's an homage.

Okay, so what do you
think of designated seats?

What?

Do you think there should be

a designated French
representative?

I don't know.

He's really not
a morning person.

Marilyn Monroe begat
Deborah Harry begat Madonna

begat Lady Gaga.

So what else is in the paper?

Hello.

I just want to talk
to you about something.

That's why I'm here.

Are you going to
ask for forgiveness

or is this not a confession?

Forgiveness?

Forgiveness.

Not much forgiveness left
in the world today is there?

Oh well we can look beyond
the world, that's the point.

Oh a wise ass.

I get that a lot.

A little bit less
since I became a priest

most people seem to
not wanna go there.

You're Nova Lee's
boy aren't you?

Her grandson.

Yeah.

I haven't seen you since
you were in diapers.

We all lived in
the same building

and I used to take
you into my house

and wash you in
the kitchen sink.

So you don't impress me at all.

So you're friends
with my grandmother?

Yeah I was.

Until your mother managed
to get everybody evicted.

And that was what?

20, 25 years ago.

Almost.

Was at your
christening as well.

God you were a
right little wailer.

But then you always were.

Cause you mother was a drunk.

Your mother drank
while she was pregnant.

Did you know that?

Yes.

Do you still have
those little problems?

No.

How about your brother?

I haven't seen my brother.

But he struggles yes.

Well it is actually
a brain injury,

when a woman drinks alcohol
while she's pregnant.

I know.

It was never the
plan to tell you.

I remember that, your
grandmother's plan.

Nobody told me.

My brother's fetal alcohol
syndrome was kind of obvious.

I mean even to him, it
was obvious to both of us

to all of our teachers.

What about you?

Why did you want
me to know this?

Well I wanted to tell you
something that I thought

you should know, that your
family wouldn't tell you.

Why? To hurt me?

To trade.

To trade secrets.

Well you know something
that I need to know.

What's that?

You were at
school with my son.

He was older than you, he
was probably graduating

by the time you started of.

At Holy Mother
or Saint Germane?

Oh both, both.

They changed the name
later to Holy Heart of Mary

then all the kids began to
call it Hearty Hole of Mary.

Even the adults called it that.

That was a big mistake.

Big mistake to send
my son to that school.

To a catholic school?

Where did you go to school?

I went to school in Ireland.

Obedience via fear.

God I hated it.

They teach everything
through fear

and that's not the way
you teach anything.

And this is while
all those bastards

were out there raping children

and the nuns were beating
the shyte out of everybody

and the other cowards
were there covering it up.

Well that lowered our
enthusiasm a little bit.

I agree.

But not yours?

Mine too when it
was first discovered

when it was reported.

How do you talk about that?

I mean amongst yourself
are you with other priests,

how do you talk about that?

We don't talk about it.

You don't talk about the,

the biggest crisis in catholic
faith and a whole lifetime.

We don't talk about it in
the same way that you do.

So what did you, do you
have to ignore the whole world

in order to remain a priest?

I mean how do you avoid
the television, the news

the headlines, the world anger?

No I think you have
to more fully engage

with all those things.

You need to try and understand.

To try and help people.

Do you ever feel trapped?

You're young.

You still can make choices.

And you can't?

Yeah well the capacity
to choose can diminish.

I mean for example you grow old,

you can't choose where you live,

you can't choose
how your limbs move

or how you want them to move

can't choose that they
move at all sometimes.

And then you loose the clarity
and you can't make a choice.

And then there's
the worst of all

I mean you can't even remember
if you have made a choice

or what the choice was.

I don't want my son
to have any regrets.

No mother does.

I want to help him.

Of course.

And I want you to
help me to help him.

I could speak with him.

Well you already have,
that's why I'm here.

I spoke with your son.

Yes he came here to
confessional, I saw him.

Mrs?

O'Leary.

I don't recognize the name

but if he came into the confess

not everybody tells
me their name.

Aye well physically he's
about five 11, six foot tall.

He's losing his
hair, he's a big lad,

built like a brick shit house

but you wouldn't have
seen him around here

because he's only
come back recently.

Came back very suddenly.

Smith.

When he came in to confess
that's what he called himself.

Not a great disguise is it?

I don't think that it was
something that I was supposed

to believe I think it was
just something to call him.

What should I call you?

Mrs. Smith?

Does it count if you make a
confession under a pseudonym?

God it must be really bad.

If he's making a confession
under a fake name.

You must know it's bad

or else you wouldn't be here.

He had some serious
things to say, yes.

About me?

Well if he did he was lying.

He didn't talk
about his mother.

Or his father?

He did not talk
about his father.

What did he talk about?

I mean what makes a man
who's nearly 40 years of age

just suddenly, suddenly
make up his mind

to come back and
live with his mother

without even packing a bag,

and leaving all his stuff
and his rented house

across the harbor?

I mean he came back far
to quick there's something

very wrong here.

I really want you to
tell me what he told you.

I can't do that.

Well if I ask him, would
he tell me the truth?

I mean is it something that
you can tell your mother?

Is it something that you
can only confess to a priest

under a fake name?

This is honestly the
first time that I've ever

had somebody come
into the confessional

and ask to hear
someone else's sins.

That's not how it's done.

I know that's
not how it's done.

But I'm here and
I'm really worried.

And you can stop me
worrying if you tell me

not to worry about my
son and what he's doing

and what he's done,
you can do that,

you can do that just by
telling me what he told you.

And if you do that I'll go away

and I won't bother you anymore.

What did he confess to you?

The sanctity of this--

Don't throw the sanctity
of the church at me please.

And don't go on about the crap

of breaking the
confessional seal.

I know the rules

and I know that I'm
asking you to break them.

You must be aware
that I can't do that.

Did he commit a crime?

I think you love
your son very much--

Don't patronize me.

I'm not patronizing,
I am sympathizing.

I wish that I could
tell you, I really do.

It's not pleasant carrying
other peoples secrets around.

But if he has committed a
crime has it occurred to you

that he might go straight
out and commit it again?

And who would you
be protecting then?

Come on.

Why are you so
arrogant all of you?

You're all so pompous.

I mean you all think that
you're just above the law,

that you don't
even have to go out

and report a crime that you
know has been committed.

You're mistaking
the situation.

How?

Your son did not
confess a crime.

Not to me.

He confessed sins,
very serious sins.

You're right to be worried.

So why don't you tell me what
you think your son is up to

and I will tell you what to
do, I will give you council,

spiritual council on what
you might do about it.

Well when he came home to
stay with me a few weeks ago

he said that he was
very, very depressed.

That he was thinking
of killing himself.

So I thought he
might have come here

to talk to you about that.

I'm not going to
discuss what he said.

But that's not the crime that
you came here to uncover.

That is the saddest thing
that a mother can hear.

That her child is so unhappy.

Well you said he
didn't commit a crime

and I've admitted
that I was wrong

so that's enough for me.

No, no that's not enough.

Your son thinks of
committing a crime.

He thinks?

He thinks about it long
enough and hard enough

that he came here
to confess to it.

But he didn't do it?

Not yet.

Well there were pictures,
on his phone of girls.

Do you have
evidence of a crime?

No they weren't
those kind of pictures.

You can see in the photo
how the person who took it

sees the person in it.

Does that make sense?

God I've nothing to go on.

I have nothing.

Nothing except a suspicion.

You need to talk to him.

You need to get him
professional help.

Go somewhere safe with people
around who can't hear you

unless you want them to and
tell him your intuition.

You need to get him to a doctor.

So it's true.

Ask your son.

When he was small, I think
something happened to him.

And what did you
do about it then?

I sent the man who was
doing it here to you.

Didn't I?

No you didn't send him
to me I wasn't born yet.

Ah stop being petty, I sent
him to the church to a priest.

Now that priest is very old now

but he was about your
age when it happened.

What did the priest do?

Well I don't know do I?

Nobody knows what goes on
in these confession boxes

and that's the bloody trouble.

There are reasons
for that secrecy.

And you use that
secrecy to frighten people

and to keep them under control.

I have no control over you.

No you haven't, you've
no control over me.

Mrs. Smith.

There were other ways for you

to find out what
you wanted to know.

You could have
talked to your son.

And you could have
spoken to his neighbors

where he was living.

I know that there's a
reason that you came

to the church today,
into the confessional.

Yes there was.

If you miss the
feeling of support,

you know if you
miss the council,

if you miss belonging somewhere

I promise you we have
a place for you here.

I will never come
back to your church.

I can help you.

But you didn't help me.

If you change
your mind I will--

Yeah well I won't be
changing my mind okay?

I mean why would
I change my mind

and come back to a dictatorship?

Because that's what
the catholic church is.

You give me your orders

and some bishop down the
road gives you his orders

and then it goes right to
the top, to the dictator.

I'm not even allowed
to question you.

You've just proved
that, I've just tried.

I just have to sit there

and listen while you examine

and judge every
movement of mine.

I mean I call that an
abusive relationship.

Of course you are
allowed to question thin--

And then of course
there's the money,

yes you're very happy
to take the money

I mean I gave 10% of my
earnings to the church

for half of my life

and my parents did
the same before me

and what did you
do with that money?

You said you were going
to give it to the poor

so we waited and we watched
and the poor stayed poor

and the poor got even poorer

and still in every
single catholic village
around the world

who has the biggest
house in the village?

The priest.

And the pope probably
got 10 new tiaras.

And you wonder why
people are leaving?

That's why they're leaving.

I mean with a fraction of the
wealth of the catholic church

you could have dug a well
in every village in Africa.

But no, you didn't do that.

You kept the money because
you needed the hush money

to pay the settlements
for the poor children

who were raped and abused.

And you take tax exemption
from the government

and then you stand there
and tell me how to vote.

The church is flawed,

like every corner of
society is flawed.

It shouldn't matter that we fail

it matters what we stand for.

But there's no evidence
of what you stand for, none.

I mean your faith would be
thrown out in any court,

in any country in the world.

And anybody for example, who
hears voices in their heads,

they get put into
a mental hospital

but I mean if you're a
catholic and you hear voices

you turn them into saints.

And then you ask
me to pray to them,

to pray to these
schizophrenics up in the sky.

Oh but it's all
changing now isn't it?

Not the science
but the testifying.

The little kids who
were raped and molested

they're growing up and
they have the courage

to testify against you.

And all the cover ups
and all that rubbish of

pedophile priests
being moved from

one village to the next village.

And then you tell
people who have diseases

or a deformed child, you tell
them that that is God's will

or God's punishment.

Well to me, that really
is, unspeakably, cruel.

It's hard being judged
isn't it, Father?

Oh I'm double
booked on Thursday.

A wake and a funeral.

You want the funeral?

Let the kid take it.

What?

You're so busy?

No I'm not so busy,
he needs to get out.

You take it.

Have any of you ever been
asked to break the seal

of the confessional?

Somebody asked you to do that?

A cop?

Does that happen?

Not often.

No it wasn't a
cop just a person.

And?

Well, I mean I wanted to
tell her that her suspicions

were right you know?

That she should turn her
son in and get him some help

but it's a real situation.

Is that what you told her?

No I didn't tell her anything.

I mean maybe that much.

That's to much.

I'm worried about people
getting hurt, badly.

Look I know it's hard to put
your faith in the sacrament

100% but it is the sacrament.

You can never, ever
tell what someone

confesses during penance.

Does everybody feel that
way, no room to move there?

Okay well what if somebody
comes in and confesses

to me that he's slowly
poisoning his wife?

I mean I'm not supposed
to say anything?

That's a little far fetched.

Okay well what if he confesses

that he's thinking about it?

I actually had that one once.

Well what'd you do?

People confess to
all kinds of thoughts.

I mean maybe not
so much nowadays

but we used to be
pretty hard core

about not thinking bad thoughts.

Yeah there's not
much you can do.

There's a difference
between a crime and a sin.

Not when it comes
to the sacrament.

Crime or sin doesn't
leave the booth.

You warn people
of the consequences

or you convince them
to turn themselves in

if they've already done it.

You're not the police.

God's law isn't about man's law.

Amen.

♪ Cold on the outside

♪ But inside we're God

♪ I don't need horses
to ride into the sun

♪ I just wanna walk
til tomorrow comes

♪ And maybe we'll drink
from the river on the way

♪ And lethe will
give me another day

♪ I don't need horses
to ride into the sun

♪ I just wanna walk
til tomorrow comes

♪ And maybe we'll drink
from the river on the way

♪ And lethe will
give me another day

Next
time on Forgive Me.

Forgive--

How do I know you?

I've seen you before.

Forgive me father.

Saint Sebastian
attends our church.

He's a member of the
congregation that's

that's gotta be
where I saw his face

you know, what he looks like

but I just I don't remember
seeing him before today.

It's like my brain
picked his face

out of the crowd or something.