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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,667 --> 00:00:19,715 [ Siren Wailing In Distance ] 2 00:00:19,758 --> 00:00:23,240 [ Woman On TV ] ...on the bridge, a little bit slow right now on the lower level. 3 00:00:23,284 --> 00:00:25,242 Upper level looking much better. 4 00:00:25,286 --> 00:00:27,244 [ Woman #2 On TV ] Thanks, Al. 8:05 on this Wednesday morning. 5 00:00:27,288 --> 00:00:28,985 Time now for a check of your Mathis Brothers-- 6 00:00:31,335 --> 00:00:34,164 [ Man On TV ] The bottom line is, you know, the epidemic here, Susan, 7 00:00:34,208 --> 00:00:37,559 is worse than previously estimated-- probably much worse. 8 00:00:37,602 --> 00:00:39,691 We have this new report coming out overnight... 9 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:43,086 from theJournal of the American Medical Association-- 10 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:46,829 ...of Doctors has described this week what it calls an emerging epidemic-- 11 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:49,353 [ Katie Couric ] Military leaders called that a threat to national security. 12 00:00:49,397 --> 00:00:51,138 If it doesn't affect you personally, 13 00:00:53,531 --> 00:00:55,577 it will affect you indirectly by someone you know, someone in your family. 14 00:00:55,620 --> 00:00:57,448 - [ Laughing ] - It is just going up much faster than we thought. 15 00:00:57,492 --> 00:00:59,450 [ Man On TV ] The problem just keeps getting worse. 16 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,409 [ Man #2 On TV ] This is a terror from within. 17 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:03,019 It is a global epidemic. Epidemic. 18 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,761 [ Man #3 ] Clearly something's gone wrong. 19 00:01:05,804 --> 00:01:09,547 [ Man #4 ] Kids are being told the biggest lie they will ever hear in their lives. 20 00:01:09,591 --> 00:01:13,029 She cannot-- literally cannot calm herself down. 21 00:01:14,335 --> 00:01:16,554 [ Couric ] In the past quarter century, 22 00:01:16,598 --> 00:01:18,469 the number of overweight children has grown from... 23 00:01:18,513 --> 00:01:21,516 one in 20 to nearly one in five. 24 00:01:21,559 --> 00:01:24,693 Used to be you'd have one or two heavyset kids in a class. 25 00:01:24,736 --> 00:01:26,956 Now we get eight or 10. 26 00:01:26,999 --> 00:01:30,829 [ Man #5 ] This year, for the first time in the history of the world, 27 00:01:30,873 --> 00:01:34,442 more people will die from the effects of obesity than from starvation. 28 00:01:34,485 --> 00:01:38,010 [ Man #6 ] This has ramifications far beyond obesity itself. 29 00:01:38,054 --> 00:01:40,883 [ Man #7 ] It is worse than even smoking. The cost of this is about-- 30 00:01:40,926 --> 00:01:43,451 [ Woman #3 ] Half a trillion dollars in additional health care cost-- half a trillion. 31 00:01:43,494 --> 00:01:45,409 [ Man #8 ] The American Academy of Family Physicians... 32 00:01:45,453 --> 00:01:47,368 partnered up with Coca-Cola. 33 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:51,328 [ Woman #4 ] Isn't this a conflict of interest? 34 00:01:51,372 --> 00:01:54,157 [ Man #9 ] Hope that the American Academy of Family Physicians is looking for ways-- 35 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:58,161 Researchers say obesity is causing more and more cases of cancer... 36 00:01:58,205 --> 00:02:01,643 and is now catching up to smoking as the leading cause-- 37 00:02:01,686 --> 00:02:04,820 [ Couric Narrating ] It started out as a small story. 38 00:02:04,863 --> 00:02:10,217 I had no idea I'd be talking about weight gain and obesity my entire career. 39 00:02:12,523 --> 00:02:16,179 We've been covering the problem and solutions for over 30 years. 40 00:02:16,223 --> 00:02:19,008 [ Richard Simmons ] It's sweatin' time! 41 00:02:19,051 --> 00:02:23,143 [ Couric ] In that time, entire industries have ignited over the weight problem. 42 00:02:23,186 --> 00:02:25,319 [ Woman ] I will never look like that again. 43 00:02:25,362 --> 00:02:28,626 First came the magazines, then the talk shows-- 44 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:31,542 - And how was the diet for you? - This is the miracle we've been waiting for. 45 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:35,372 And now our epidemic is entertainment on network television. 46 00:02:36,547 --> 00:02:38,375 How is this still an issue, 47 00:02:38,419 --> 00:02:41,639 much less a worldwide epidemic? 48 00:02:41,683 --> 00:02:44,512 We get new solutions every day. 49 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:48,385 Everything in the grocery store is made with less fat and fewer calories, 50 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:51,083 and yet our kids keep getting bigger and sicker. 51 00:02:51,127 --> 00:02:53,216 It makes no sense. 52 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:58,265 Is there a link between our ever-expanding waistlines... 53 00:02:58,308 --> 00:03:01,529 and the government's own dietary guidelines? 54 00:03:01,572 --> 00:03:07,099 [ Couric ] And that got me thinking, what if the solutions weren't really solutions at all? 55 00:03:07,143 --> 00:03:09,232 The Bush administration is resisting a plan... 56 00:03:09,276 --> 00:03:12,322 from the World Health Organization to fight obesity-- 57 00:03:12,366 --> 00:03:15,847 [ Couric ] What if they were actually making things worse? 58 00:03:15,891 --> 00:03:18,676 There are a very high percentage of young people overweight... 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,157 because of a number of things that have happened in our country... 60 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,551 in the last several years. 61 00:03:23,594 --> 00:03:27,381 [ Couric ] What if our whole approach to this epidemic has been dead wrong? 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,394 Sorry. Okay. 63 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:43,092 Uh, let me fix this. 64 00:03:43,135 --> 00:03:46,138 You know, one person told me... 65 00:03:46,182 --> 00:03:50,621 that fat people were just made to be fat. 66 00:03:50,665 --> 00:03:52,406 And I don't think that's true. 67 00:03:54,582 --> 00:03:57,846 And I know it's hard, 'cause I'm still overweight. 68 00:03:57,889 --> 00:04:01,371 And right now I feel like I always will be. 69 00:04:01,415 --> 00:04:03,808 [ Brady ] Why do you not eat vegetables, Taylor? 70 00:04:03,852 --> 00:04:06,420 'Cause I do not like them. Why? 71 00:04:06,463 --> 00:04:08,291 - I don't. - Why not? 72 00:04:08,335 --> 00:04:10,815 'Cause I don't. You just say you don't, but you don't have a reason. 73 00:04:10,859 --> 00:04:12,295 Yes, I do. What's the reason. 74 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:13,296 I don't. 75 00:04:15,342 --> 00:04:19,476 [ Brady ] Being in the South, we eat a lot of fattening things. 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,872 We eat macaroni and cheese, fried cube steak, fried chicken. 77 00:04:23,915 --> 00:04:27,963 And that's what we're used to. That's what I've grown up doing. 78 00:04:28,006 --> 00:04:31,749 I've done what my parents done. My parents have done what they've done. 79 00:04:31,793 --> 00:04:34,317 It's passed on from generation. 80 00:04:34,361 --> 00:04:40,541 And once you start overeating, it becomes the worst habit, and it just grows. 81 00:04:49,071 --> 00:04:52,466 [ Mother ] The first time that I think he ever mentioned... 82 00:04:52,509 --> 00:04:55,599 the teasing-- calling him fat or something-- 83 00:04:55,643 --> 00:04:57,601 I think it was probably around the age of eight. 84 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:03,346 Some girls told him they wanted to see how fast he could run, 85 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:06,523 and he ran. 86 00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:11,789 And later, another girl came to him and told him... 87 00:05:11,833 --> 00:05:16,316 that they were laughing at him, and they just wanted him to run so they could see his fat shake. 88 00:05:17,752 --> 00:05:20,668 He stayed upset about that for so long. 89 00:05:20,711 --> 00:05:23,105 [ Brady ] We ready to eat, Mama? Mm-hmm. 90 00:05:26,195 --> 00:05:29,720 [ Brady ] I'm 15, and I weigh around 215 pounds. 91 00:05:29,764 --> 00:05:32,027 [ Tinna ] If you like it that way-- 92 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:35,160 [ Brady ] I'd like to lose about 50 to 55 pounds. 93 00:05:35,204 --> 00:05:38,338 I could do so many more things. 94 00:05:38,381 --> 00:05:41,776 Maybe I could play football or play baseball. 95 00:05:41,819 --> 00:05:44,996 I've always had an interest in baseball. 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,304 [ Tinna ] We talk about it a lot-- about, you know, the weight thing and-- 97 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:52,352 I've always been overweight. And I was overweight at his age. 98 00:05:52,395 --> 00:05:56,573 And I don't want him to be having to obsess about weight his whole life. 99 00:05:56,617 --> 00:06:00,490 You know, I want him to be able to focus on other things that are more important. 100 00:06:04,102 --> 00:06:07,018 I really think he wants to lose weight. 101 00:06:07,062 --> 00:06:09,238 I just think he doesn't know how to do it. 102 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:14,852 [ Brady ] Everybody else doesn't look at it the same way as I do. 103 00:06:16,158 --> 00:06:18,508 I look at it as I'm failing, 104 00:06:18,552 --> 00:06:23,339 and they just look at it as he's just another fat kid. 105 00:06:25,646 --> 00:06:27,909 [ Man ] Kids are obese for two reasons-- 106 00:06:27,952 --> 00:06:30,738 They have voracious appetites, and they don't exercise enough. 107 00:06:30,781 --> 00:06:33,654 [ Whoopi Goldberg ] Americans view overweight people as lazy, 108 00:06:33,697 --> 00:06:36,831 unambitious and lacking willpower. 109 00:06:36,874 --> 00:06:40,443 [ Man #2 ] All we have to do is have people eat less and exercise more. 110 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:42,880 Not a very big problem. 111 00:06:42,924 --> 00:06:46,101 The subtle message is "It's your fault you're fat." 112 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:49,496 All you need to do is eat less, exercise more. 113 00:06:49,539 --> 00:06:52,020 It's all about personal responsibility, about willpower. 114 00:06:52,063 --> 00:06:54,544 That's the message that's been pushed on us. 115 00:06:54,588 --> 00:06:56,459 I want to see you all moving, all right? 116 00:06:56,503 --> 00:06:58,635 Forget about it. 117 00:06:58,679 --> 00:07:00,985 [ Couric ] "Eat less, exercise more"... 118 00:07:01,029 --> 00:07:04,162 has been the common sense answer to unwanted weight... 119 00:07:04,206 --> 00:07:06,164 for more than half a century. 120 00:07:06,208 --> 00:07:08,471 This was the science. 121 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:11,387 And it started with a mouse. 122 00:07:12,649 --> 00:07:14,782 The year was 1953. 123 00:07:14,825 --> 00:07:19,961 Up until this point, exercise had been considered taboo. 124 00:07:20,004 --> 00:07:24,444 Doctors even warned it would cause heart attacks and diminish your sex drive. 125 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,056 Then came Dr. Jean Mayer, 126 00:07:28,099 --> 00:07:29,927 a French physiologist, 127 00:07:29,971 --> 00:07:34,018 who would become the foremost expert on obesity in the U.S. 128 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:39,459 He noted that large lab mice ate virtually the same amount as smaller mice. 129 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:42,897 But the big ones weren't nearly as active afterwards. 130 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:44,594 Mayer's conclusion: 131 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:47,423 lack of exercise must be related to weight gain. 132 00:07:48,859 --> 00:07:52,384 His finding sparked a fitness revolution. 133 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:54,865 [ Man ] This is where you come and punish yourself for fun-- 134 00:07:54,909 --> 00:07:57,215 or rather, for your health. 135 00:07:57,259 --> 00:07:59,740 Here we go now. We're gonna step apart together. 136 00:07:59,783 --> 00:08:01,829 To the right. Apart-- 137 00:08:01,872 --> 00:08:04,614 [ Couric ] By the time Jane Fonda became the face of fitness, 138 00:08:04,658 --> 00:08:08,400 Americans were spending billions of dollars trying to lose weight. 139 00:08:08,444 --> 00:08:11,186 [ Woman ] ♪ Let's get physical Physical ♪ 140 00:08:11,229 --> 00:08:13,231 ♪ I wanna get physical ♪ 141 00:08:13,275 --> 00:08:15,625 [ Couric ] But as more and more people began exercising, 142 00:08:15,669 --> 00:08:18,454 more and more waistlines grew out of control. 143 00:08:20,108 --> 00:08:22,719 Between 1980 and 2000, 144 00:08:22,763 --> 00:08:27,550 fitness club memberships more than doubled across the United States. 145 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:32,337 During that same time, the obesity rate also doubled. 146 00:08:32,381 --> 00:08:33,774 A decade later, 147 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:35,515 two out of every three Americans... 148 00:08:35,558 --> 00:08:37,604 were either overweight or obese. 149 00:08:38,996 --> 00:08:40,781 So how is it possible... 150 00:08:40,824 --> 00:08:43,914 that the enormous rise of the fitness revolution... 151 00:08:43,958 --> 00:08:48,005 almost exactly mirrored the rise in obesity rates? 152 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:50,094 [ Man ] Something is making that happen. 153 00:08:50,138 --> 00:08:53,271 The question is, how is that happening in Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, 154 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:56,492 Sweden, Norway, South Africa and everywhere else? 155 00:08:58,668 --> 00:09:01,453 And we have obese six-month-olds. 156 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,458 You want to tell me that they're supposed to diet and exercise? 157 00:09:07,721 --> 00:09:10,158 So, how our politicians can continue... 158 00:09:10,201 --> 00:09:12,595 to espouse this same mantra-- 159 00:09:12,639 --> 00:09:16,251 "Diet and exercise, you are what you eat, it's your fault"-- 160 00:09:16,294 --> 00:09:18,253 is absolutely beyond me. 161 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:36,010 [ Girl ] I am 12 years old, and I weigh 212 pounds. 162 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:41,842 My doctors have said that I am a statistic. 163 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:44,105 I don't really know what it means. 164 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:46,324 I think it has something to do with my weight. 165 00:09:48,326 --> 00:09:52,592 They normally say that I'm just supposed to eat healthier... 166 00:09:52,635 --> 00:09:54,942 and exercise a lot more, 167 00:09:54,985 --> 00:09:57,640 which is what I am doing. 168 00:09:57,684 --> 00:09:59,947 I swim four days a week... 169 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:04,212 and then walking my dogs on the weekends. 170 00:10:07,084 --> 00:10:12,176 [ Woman ] We didn't really start to worry about it until I think she was eight, 171 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:14,701 um, when the doctor wanted us... 172 00:10:14,744 --> 00:10:17,834 to seek a nutritionist to kind of address the issue. 173 00:10:17,878 --> 00:10:19,662 And I just remember at that time... 174 00:10:19,706 --> 00:10:22,099 we called the nutritionist that he wanted us to, 175 00:10:22,143 --> 00:10:24,536 and we were told, "We don't see children that young." 176 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:28,715 It has to do a lot with their self-esteem, 177 00:10:28,758 --> 00:10:31,892 especially with girls once they hit their teenage years, 178 00:10:31,935 --> 00:10:36,679 because, "Oh, I'm the fat kid, and I always have to consciously watch what I eat." 179 00:10:37,811 --> 00:10:41,379 My doctor, um-- 180 00:10:41,423 --> 00:10:43,947 he told me to join Weight Watchers, 181 00:10:43,991 --> 00:10:49,300 um, and I can't, because I'm not old enough yet. 182 00:10:49,344 --> 00:10:52,303 Then we stopped at that point and said, you know what? 183 00:10:52,347 --> 00:10:55,959 We know-- We have the tools. We know what we're supposed to do. 184 00:10:56,003 --> 00:10:57,657 Let's just try and do it ourselves. 185 00:11:02,009 --> 00:11:04,446 Some of the things that I do when I look for healthier choices... 186 00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:06,404 is doing the reduced fat-- 187 00:11:06,448 --> 00:11:10,017 It's got more fiber in it. It's made with more whole grains. 188 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:14,108 I look at the fat content, but cereal, by its very nature, is generally pretty low in fat. 189 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:19,200 So cereal's a good go-to for pretty much any meal replacement. 190 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:23,378 I know what my family will eat, 191 00:11:23,421 --> 00:11:27,861 and I try and consider that when I'm purchasing things. 192 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:34,781 [ Maggie ] I would expect that, since I'm eating healthy and exercising a lot, 193 00:11:34,824 --> 00:11:39,002 that I would be able to lose more weight than I am. 194 00:11:39,046 --> 00:11:43,093 But my weight has mostly stayed the same. 195 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:47,315 So, sometimes it gets a little bit frustrating. 196 00:11:57,629 --> 00:12:00,415 [ Man ] This whole generation of kids-- they're doing their best. 197 00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:03,070 They're torturing themselves... 198 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:07,422 to do the cure that we tell them, and it's the wrong cure. 199 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:09,816 And we're blaming the willpower, 200 00:12:09,859 --> 00:12:12,775 the moral fortitude of these kids, 201 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:14,603 and it's a crime. 202 00:12:19,521 --> 00:12:22,045 [ Man ] There is a solution to obesity. It's energy balance. 203 00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:24,178 It's balancing calories in and calories out. 204 00:12:24,221 --> 00:12:28,269 [ Woman ] We're eating and drinking too much and not getting enough exercise. 205 00:12:28,312 --> 00:12:30,750 [ Man #2 ] We will have to have greater emphasis... 206 00:12:30,793 --> 00:12:33,622 on getting that energy balance. 207 00:12:33,665 --> 00:12:36,843 Nowadays there's this phrase, "Let's practice energy balance." 208 00:12:36,886 --> 00:12:39,497 Okay, we're gonna make sure that we know how to match... 209 00:12:39,541 --> 00:12:41,761 the calories in to the calories out... 210 00:12:41,804 --> 00:12:44,024 so that we don't get fat. 211 00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:47,767 It's nonsense. 212 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:52,815 You eat, say, 110 bites of food a day, 213 00:12:52,859 --> 00:12:57,864 and you only burn off 109 of them, you're gonna get obese in 20 years. 214 00:12:57,907 --> 00:13:01,781 Even if there's a Guinness world record holder of calorie counting-- 215 00:13:01,824 --> 00:13:04,131 calories in to the calories out-- 216 00:13:04,174 --> 00:13:07,003 nobody can do it. 217 00:13:07,047 --> 00:13:09,397 [ Man ] 3.40. 218 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,053 What do you have next? Next I have swim team. 219 00:13:13,096 --> 00:13:17,579 We certainly don't want to discourage people from exercising... 220 00:13:17,622 --> 00:13:20,277 or underplay the importance of physical activity to health, 221 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:22,671 but we are not gonna exercise our way... 222 00:13:22,714 --> 00:13:24,542 out of this obesity problem. 223 00:13:26,153 --> 00:13:29,069 To burn off just one 20-ounce Coke, 224 00:13:29,112 --> 00:13:32,899 a child would have to bike for an hour and 15 minutes. 225 00:13:32,942 --> 00:13:36,163 Most people don't have that much time in their day. 226 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,776 [ Lustig ] So if you burn a calorie sleeping, 227 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:44,867 or you burn a calorie exercising, it's still a calorie burned. 228 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:47,914 The question is, is a calorie eaten a calorie eaten? 229 00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:50,481 And for that we have really good data. 230 00:13:50,525 --> 00:13:52,570 And it says a calorie is not a calorie. 231 00:13:54,485 --> 00:13:56,661 Why is a calorie not a calorie? 232 00:13:56,705 --> 00:13:58,620 All right. Let's give you an example. 233 00:13:58,663 --> 00:14:00,927 Let's take an easy one. Let's take almonds. 234 00:14:02,363 --> 00:14:06,106 If you consume 160 calories in almonds, 235 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:09,544 because of the fiber in the almonds, 236 00:14:09,587 --> 00:14:13,069 the food is not going to get absorbed immediately. 237 00:14:13,113 --> 00:14:16,029 So your blood sugar rise is gonna be a lot lower, 238 00:14:16,072 --> 00:14:18,509 it's gonna be for longer. 239 00:14:18,553 --> 00:14:20,598 So what's the opposite of the almond? 240 00:14:20,642 --> 00:14:23,732 Well, the opposite of the almond would be a soft drink. 241 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,300 Because there's no fiber, 242 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:29,085 they get absorbed straight through the portal system to the liver-- 243 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:33,655 The liver gets this big sugar rush. 244 00:14:33,698 --> 00:14:36,614 And when your liver gets that onslaught, 245 00:14:36,658 --> 00:14:38,442 it has no choice... 246 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:41,706 but to turn it into fat immediately. 247 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:46,537 So, 160 calories in almonds, or 160 calories in soda? 248 00:14:46,581 --> 00:14:48,409 You tell me which is better. 249 00:14:50,628 --> 00:14:54,328 [ Woman ] For over 125 years, we've been bringing people together. 250 00:14:54,371 --> 00:14:56,678 [ Couric ] And yet we are continually being sold... 251 00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:59,637 a message contrary to the science. 252 00:14:59,681 --> 00:15:02,031 [ Woman ] ...on something that concerns all of us-- obesity. 253 00:15:02,075 --> 00:15:04,381 [ Couric ] Our weight, we're told, 254 00:15:04,425 --> 00:15:06,688 comes down to calories in and calories out. 255 00:15:06,731 --> 00:15:08,603 [ Woman ] One simple, common sense fact-- 256 00:15:08,646 --> 00:15:11,998 All calories count, no matter where they come from, 257 00:15:12,041 --> 00:15:14,914 including Coca-Cola and everything else with calories. 258 00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:18,656 And if you eat and drink more calories than you burn off, you'll gain weight. 259 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,485 [ Woman ] Well, one thing we need to understand-- 260 00:15:21,529 --> 00:15:23,923 that the food industry is really at the heart of this problem. 261 00:15:23,966 --> 00:15:27,013 We're handing the industry a big gift... 262 00:15:27,056 --> 00:15:31,017 in that they get to confuse the issue by talking about exercise. 263 00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:34,455 It's all about the spin, right? So the food industry is good at... 264 00:15:34,498 --> 00:15:39,721 kind of taking half-truths and then stretching them. 265 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:42,289 Food companies are interested in selling more food. 266 00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:44,987 That's their job as a corporation. 267 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:48,817 And one way to do that is to co-opt potential critics. 268 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:54,997 The soft drink companies fund research in universities. 269 00:15:55,041 --> 00:15:57,652 They donate to professional societies. 270 00:15:57,695 --> 00:16:01,569 And, in fact, I just saw a new major analysis... 271 00:16:01,612 --> 00:16:05,181 that says that soft drinks have nothing to do with obesity. 272 00:16:05,225 --> 00:16:08,445 And the study was sponsored in part by Coca-Cola. 273 00:16:08,489 --> 00:16:10,491 We haven't heard this kind of association before. 274 00:16:10,534 --> 00:16:13,146 It's the American Academy of Family Physicians-- 275 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:16,062 They have partnered up with... 276 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:18,499 Coca-Cola, which-- 277 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:21,023 [ Man ] You know-- Yeah, definitely a head-scratcher. 278 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:23,721 [ Couric ] Immediately after Coke's announcement, 279 00:16:23,765 --> 00:16:27,987 a group of 20 doctors who helped make up the American Academy of Family Physicians, 280 00:16:28,030 --> 00:16:29,901 publicly resigned. 281 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:35,168 How can any organization that claims to promote public health... 282 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:39,476 join forces with a company that promotes products that put our children at risk? 283 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,436 [ Couric ] But not all doctors see it the same way, 284 00:16:42,479 --> 00:16:47,049 particularly those whose research is funded by the industry. 285 00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:49,921 [ Male Newscaster ] Even though study after study has shown soda... 286 00:16:49,965 --> 00:16:54,361 to be a significant contributor to America's staggering obesity crisis, 287 00:16:54,404 --> 00:16:57,581 Dr. Allison says there's not enough "solid evidence." 288 00:16:57,625 --> 00:17:01,629 But his critics say Allison is motivated by something else-- 289 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:03,848 by all the money he has repeatedly taken... 290 00:17:03,892 --> 00:17:05,633 from Coca-Cola, Pepsi... 291 00:17:05,676 --> 00:17:07,722 and the American Beverage Association. 292 00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:14,859 [ Couric ] I know you've received a lot of money from the food industry in general. 293 00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:18,167 Was there evidence that said the ingestion of sugary beverages... 294 00:17:18,211 --> 00:17:20,909 actually contributed to the obesity problem? 295 00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:23,738 Ingestion of all calories contributes to the obesity problem. 296 00:17:23,781 --> 00:17:26,393 One question you might ask is whether sugary beverages... 297 00:17:26,436 --> 00:17:29,004 contribute more so than do other calories. 298 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:31,006 That's a very challenging question to ask. 299 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:33,487 Well, let me ask you that. Do they? 300 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:36,359 It's a good question. There's reasons to believe they might. 301 00:17:36,403 --> 00:17:38,622 But I don't think the evidence is quite clear. For example-- 302 00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:41,103 And what would be the science behind that? 303 00:17:41,147 --> 00:17:47,631 Well, the ideal study might be requiring people to, uh, uh-- 304 00:17:49,851 --> 00:17:53,028 Excuse me. Let me start again on that. Let me just get my thoughts together. 305 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:54,769 Okay. 306 00:18:01,123 --> 00:18:04,996 [ Man ] We know sugared beverage consumption is producing diabetes and obesity. 307 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,434 It's just ridiculous to think otherwise. 308 00:18:07,477 --> 00:18:09,871 And, of course, research shows it to be the case. 309 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:13,875 And people are getting wise to industry-funded studies that show the opposite. 310 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:21,622 [ Taubes ] If you're peddling Coca-Cola, Pepsi, sugar water, Gatorade, 311 00:18:21,665 --> 00:18:24,277 you don't want your food to be considered inherently fattening, 312 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,844 just as the tobacco industry would have preferred... 313 00:18:26,888 --> 00:18:31,414 that their product not been considered inherently capable of causing cancer. 314 00:18:31,458 --> 00:18:35,897 But just like cigarettes literally cause lung cancer, 315 00:18:35,940 --> 00:18:38,029 certain foods literally make you fat. 316 00:18:40,989 --> 00:18:43,034 This is a big bag. 317 00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:51,347 What did you have for lunch? 318 00:18:51,391 --> 00:18:53,175 Let's tell the truth. Um-- 319 00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:57,397 Hamburger. French fries. 320 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,834 Milk and juice. 321 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,489 - Milk andjuice? - They give them both. 322 00:19:05,056 --> 00:19:09,844 If you ever go on a diet, and you try to eat healthier food, 323 00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:12,151 your brain's still telling you "Eat, eat, eat. 324 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:15,589 It's not what I want. No, get something else." 325 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:18,069 You're still used to that fattening stuff. 326 00:19:18,113 --> 00:19:20,159 That's why it's hard to go on a diet. 327 00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:22,335 You ain't got but a few more to go. 328 00:19:22,378 --> 00:19:24,250 This time of night sure ain't that many. 329 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:30,169 Gotta savor the flavor. You gotta savor the flavor? 330 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:33,868 You gotta savor the flavor 'cause you only get so many chips. 331 00:19:33,911 --> 00:19:35,870 I'm trying to lose weight. 332 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:38,873 My weight is pretty heavy. 180. 333 00:19:38,916 --> 00:19:41,832 I'm a pretty heavy dude. That's why I try to get exercise in, 334 00:19:41,876 --> 00:19:44,313 eat some healthy food every day. 335 00:19:47,838 --> 00:19:51,538 [ Mother ] We, um, started eating different things, more fruits and vegetables. 336 00:19:51,581 --> 00:19:54,323 We limit our starches. We limit our breads. 337 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:56,325 We keep healthier snacks. 338 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:58,501 He loves Hot Pockets. 339 00:19:58,545 --> 00:20:00,460 So they have Lean Hot Pockets. 340 00:20:00,503 --> 00:20:03,332 So I make sure to have the lean ones versus the regular ones. 341 00:20:06,988 --> 00:20:09,599 It costs more to eat healthier. 342 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:12,080 So we slip. And I'm not gonna say we don't. 343 00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:16,040 Because it's easier to go in there and buy the cereals with sugar in it. 344 00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:19,870 It's easier to buy chips, because it's cheaper. 345 00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:21,959 And that's what the food industry wants them to think. 346 00:20:22,003 --> 00:20:24,048 They want them to think it's cheaper. 347 00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:27,051 KFC Family Feast. Nine pieces, any recipe, 348 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:29,793 three large sides, six biscuits, 19.99. 349 00:20:29,837 --> 00:20:31,795 Do not give up on dinner. Mmm. 350 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:35,364 [ Hyman ] "You deserve a break today." You can get a "value meal." 351 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:37,584 These are messages that have kind of gotten embedded... 352 00:20:37,627 --> 00:20:40,064 into our culture, into their thinking. 353 00:20:40,108 --> 00:20:43,764 But there is well-documented scientific proof... 354 00:20:43,807 --> 00:20:46,680 that you can eat well for less, and they don't know that. 355 00:20:56,211 --> 00:20:59,170 [ Woman ] Okay, we're gonna be in room number nine. 356 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:01,303 Just come right in. 357 00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:03,523 And it'll be just a moment, okay? 358 00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:08,354 [ Man ] How is the diet control going? 359 00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:10,443 Diet control for him is getting-- is better. 360 00:21:10,486 --> 00:21:12,706 At first it was rocky, but it's a lot better. 361 00:21:12,749 --> 00:21:15,796 I'm happy to hear that you think things are going so well, 362 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:20,453 but it's a bit concerning, because when I look at Wesley, he doesn't look any thinner. 363 00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:23,412 In fact, he actually looks bigger than he did a few years ago. 364 00:21:23,456 --> 00:21:26,633 And what I see from the data is... 365 00:21:26,676 --> 00:21:29,331 is that he's continued to gain weight... 366 00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:33,074 even faster than the rate that he was before. 367 00:21:33,117 --> 00:21:37,557 His weight is even higher than it was last time. 368 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,430 I've eaten less than I usually have. I've exercised more. 369 00:21:41,474 --> 00:21:44,259 And I don't really know why I'm getting more weight. 370 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,699 Mom, have you noticed that his skin here... 371 00:21:49,743 --> 00:21:52,354 is starting to get a little bit dark and a little bit thick? 372 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:55,531 - It's part of what we call metabolic syndrome. - Oh. Okay. 373 00:21:55,575 --> 00:22:01,363 His body is already starting to show some of the adult signs of overweight and obesity. 374 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:04,801 I worry about that I might have a heart attack or a seizure, or something like that. 375 00:22:04,845 --> 00:22:06,890 I've seen these things on the news. 376 00:22:06,934 --> 00:22:08,849 And I've seen my family have had it too. 377 00:22:08,892 --> 00:22:10,938 And I'm worried myself might have it. 378 00:22:10,981 --> 00:22:13,636 [ Nurse ] So relax your arm and your leg. 379 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,247 And take some deep breaths. And here we go. 380 00:22:22,428 --> 00:22:25,431 [ Hyman ] It's not just genetics. We're seeing strokes in eight-year-olds. 381 00:22:25,474 --> 00:22:27,258 We're seeing heart attacks in 20-year-olds. 382 00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:29,783 We're seeing kids at 30-- 383 00:22:29,826 --> 00:22:31,698 by their 30th birthday needing... 384 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:33,700 renal dialysis for kidney failure, 385 00:22:33,743 --> 00:22:35,876 because of these problems. 386 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:38,313 [ Lustig ] Genetics are a very important part of this, 387 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:40,402 and certainly there are people... 388 00:22:40,446 --> 00:22:43,797 who are genetically susceptible and genetically prone. 389 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,061 But genetics is not what this is about. 390 00:22:47,104 --> 00:22:50,281 When I was young, the obesity rates... 391 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:52,414 were actually pretty rare among children. 392 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:55,983 There's been a stunning increase. 393 00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:58,246 [ Woman ] We haven't had this situation... 394 00:22:58,289 --> 00:23:00,901 throughout the whole history of mankind... 395 00:23:00,944 --> 00:23:02,772 until the past 30, 40 years. 396 00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:12,391 [ Couric ] Most experts say the obesity epidemic... 397 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:15,568 really has taken place in the last 30 years or so. 398 00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:18,571 Looking back, do you think there's anything... 399 00:23:18,614 --> 00:23:21,443 that your administration or other administrations... 400 00:23:21,487 --> 00:23:24,272 could have done to prevent this? 401 00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:26,666 I don't know. I missed it sort of. 402 00:23:26,709 --> 00:23:32,933 We knew that-- We had an effort to try to increase the exercise programs in the schools... 403 00:23:32,976 --> 00:23:35,457 and improve the cafeteria requirements, 404 00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:38,678 but I don't think we appreciated the magnitude of it. 405 00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:44,771 We've got all these kids, even preteens, with type 2 diabetes now. 406 00:23:44,814 --> 00:23:47,426 That used to be called adult-onset diabetes. 407 00:23:47,469 --> 00:23:50,124 It was unheard of for young people to get it. 408 00:23:52,082 --> 00:23:55,259 And it's becoming a big problem in other parts of the world. 409 00:23:55,303 --> 00:23:58,785 Second-fastest growing area-- Middle East and North Africa. 410 00:23:58,828 --> 00:24:01,701 It's not only a personal tragedy for a lot of young people-- 411 00:24:01,744 --> 00:24:05,052 and interferes with their quality of life, their mobility, 412 00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:07,968 but it will lead to... 413 00:24:08,011 --> 00:24:10,057 enormous complications for us. 414 00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:18,892 As physicians, we know how to take care of a 50-year-old or 60-year-old... 415 00:24:18,935 --> 00:24:21,024 with type 2 diabetes. 416 00:24:21,068 --> 00:24:23,244 What none of us have done... 417 00:24:23,287 --> 00:24:25,464 is to take care of that 10-year-old... 418 00:24:25,507 --> 00:24:29,903 with type 2 diabetes for five, six, seven decades. 419 00:24:29,946 --> 00:24:32,166 We don't know the consequences of that. 420 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:34,777 And that scares me greatly. 421 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:41,218 [ Couric ] If there's a moment in time marking the start of the obesity epidemic, 422 00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:43,046 it's 1977-- 423 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:45,571 the McGovern Report. 424 00:24:45,614 --> 00:24:47,877 The Senate Special Committee on Nutrition... 425 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:51,359 is looking into the connection between heart disease and diet. 426 00:24:51,402 --> 00:24:55,232 [ Couric ] Expert testimony before the committee on nutrition and human needs... 427 00:24:55,276 --> 00:24:58,932 warned Senator George McGovern that obesity would soon be... 428 00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:02,762 the number one form of malnutrition in the United States. 429 00:25:04,328 --> 00:25:06,983 When we get the kind of overwhelming consensus... 430 00:25:07,027 --> 00:25:09,159 that has developed before this committee, 431 00:25:09,203 --> 00:25:12,989 it seems to me we have some obligation to share that with the American people. 432 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,601 [ Couric ] With predictions of rising medical costs, 433 00:25:15,644 --> 00:25:19,822 the committee issued the very first dietary goals for Americans, 434 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:23,609 noting that our diet had become overly rich in fatty meats, 435 00:25:23,652 --> 00:25:26,742 rich in saturated fats and cholesterol... 436 00:25:26,786 --> 00:25:29,179 and rich in sugar. 437 00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:33,444 The egg, sugar, dairy and beef associations, 438 00:25:33,488 --> 00:25:37,144 with sales of their products in danger, united... 439 00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:40,103 and flat-out rejected the McGovern Report. 440 00:25:40,147 --> 00:25:42,758 They even demanded a rewrite. 441 00:25:42,802 --> 00:25:46,022 The byzantine politics that I saw taking place here... 442 00:25:46,066 --> 00:25:48,024 the last couple of weeks... 443 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:51,288 had to do with the power of lobbies. 444 00:25:51,332 --> 00:25:53,943 [ Couric ] Despite McGovern's best intentions, 445 00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,990 the dietary goals were indeed revised, 446 00:25:57,033 --> 00:26:02,299 and the words "reduced intake" were removed from the report for good. 447 00:26:02,343 --> 00:26:06,129 Instead, they encouraged Americans to buy leaner products... 448 00:26:06,173 --> 00:26:09,002 and buy more food with less fat. 449 00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:15,225 And so, the 1980s began with a new health doctrine... 450 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:17,401 and a brand-new market-- 451 00:26:17,445 --> 00:26:22,798 every food product imaginable reengineered to be low in fat. 452 00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:25,279 When you take the fat out of the food, 453 00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:27,934 it tastes nasty. 454 00:26:27,977 --> 00:26:31,111 Tastes terrible. Tastes like cardboard. 455 00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:34,244 Food industry knew that. So they had to do something... 456 00:26:34,288 --> 00:26:37,987 to make the food palatable, to make it worth eating. 457 00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:40,120 So what did they do? Dumped in the sugar. 458 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:42,296 ♪♪ [ Pop ] [ Man ] ♪ Sugar 459 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,212 ♪ Aw, honey, honey 460 00:26:47,475 --> 00:26:50,260 ♪ You are my candy girl 461 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:54,395 ♪ And you got me wanting you 462 00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:58,051 ♪ Honey 463 00:26:59,182 --> 00:27:01,141 ♪ Aw, sugar, sugar 464 00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:06,363 ♪ You are my candy girl 465 00:27:06,407 --> 00:27:08,583 ♪ And you got me wanting you ♪ 466 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:11,542 [ Couric ] Between 1977 and 2000, 467 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:15,459 Americans have doubled their daily intake of sugar. 468 00:27:15,503 --> 00:27:17,679 Sugar is poison. 469 00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:21,509 It is a chronic-- not acute-- chronic-- 470 00:27:21,552 --> 00:27:24,599 dose-dependent-- depends on how much you eat-- 471 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,994 because there is a safe threshold-- 472 00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:30,779 hepato-- "liver"-- toxin. 473 00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:34,827 The metabolic diseases that are associated with obesity-- 474 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:36,176 the diabetes, 475 00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:37,830 the heart disease, 476 00:27:37,873 --> 00:27:40,963 the lipid problems, the strokes, the cancer-- 477 00:27:41,007 --> 00:27:44,271 those diseases are being driven by sugar. 478 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,795 [ Couric ] Fructose, the sweet part of sugar, 479 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,102 can only be processed in the liver. 480 00:27:49,145 --> 00:27:51,713 When your liver is pushed to the max, 481 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:53,759 the pancreas comes to the rescue... 482 00:27:53,802 --> 00:27:55,848 by producing excess amounts... 483 00:27:55,891 --> 00:27:58,372 of a hormone called insulin. 484 00:27:58,415 --> 00:28:02,245 [ Lustig ] Insulin is the energy storage hormone. 485 00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:05,640 Insulin turns sugar into fat for storage. 486 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,511 That's insulin's job. 487 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,168 [ Couric ] High levels of insulin can also block your brain... 488 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:14,649 from receiving the signal that you're full. 489 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,695 [ Beeping ] 490 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,871 [ Lustig ] Problem is your brain thinks you're starving. 491 00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,396 So how do you feel when you're starved? 492 00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:24,833 Crappy, tired, slothy. 493 00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:27,053 Sit on the couch, don't want to do anything. 494 00:28:27,096 --> 00:28:29,751 And, of course, hungry. 495 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:32,798 Well, I've just described every obese patient. 496 00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:37,324 The behaviors that we associate with obesity-- 497 00:28:37,367 --> 00:28:40,762 the eating too much, the exercising too little-- the gluttony and the sloth-- 498 00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:44,897 they are the result of the biochemistry, not the cause. 499 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:47,203 [ Brady ] All right. I'm at the grocery store with my mom, 500 00:28:47,247 --> 00:28:50,467 and so far our buggy's got Cheez-Its, 501 00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:54,602 cookies, pudding. 502 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:57,474 [ Couric ] The problem is... 503 00:28:57,518 --> 00:29:00,347 sugar isn't just in cookies and desserts. 504 00:29:03,611 --> 00:29:09,965 [ Lustig ] If you go to the supermarket, there are 600,000 food items in America, 505 00:29:11,706 --> 00:29:14,361 and 80% of them have added sugar. 506 00:29:30,681 --> 00:29:33,815 [ Couric ] Sugar can hide behind many names on nutrition labels, 507 00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:37,210 like sucrose, fructose, glucose, dextrose, 508 00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:39,255 lactose, maltose, 509 00:29:39,299 --> 00:29:41,562 invert sugar and turbinado sugar. 510 00:29:43,172 --> 00:29:45,305 And the most well-known of all, 511 00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:47,786 high-fructose corn syrup. 512 00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:50,049 [ Lustig ] You'll absorb them exactly the same. 513 00:29:50,092 --> 00:29:53,139 And so, all of the studies that have pitted... 514 00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:55,445 high-fructose corn syrup against sugar... 515 00:29:55,489 --> 00:29:57,360 show no difference between the two. 516 00:29:57,404 --> 00:29:59,406 They're both equally bad. 517 00:29:59,449 --> 00:30:02,931 [ Couric ] So, too much sugar, in any form, is dangerous, 518 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:06,630 even if the high-fructose corn syrup is replaced... 519 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,981 with any of these other varieties. 520 00:30:09,024 --> 00:30:12,549 It's not just all of the excessive sugars, 521 00:30:12,593 --> 00:30:14,638 but the processed starches too-- 522 00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:16,945 white bread, white rice, 523 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,992 potato products, prepared breakfast cereals-- 524 00:30:20,035 --> 00:30:24,692 are digested into glucose literally in an instant in the digestive tract. 525 00:30:24,735 --> 00:30:29,653 You can eat a bowl of corn flakes with no added sugar, 526 00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:32,961 or you could eat a bowl of sugar with no added corn flakes. 527 00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:36,095 They might taste different, but below the neck, 528 00:30:36,138 --> 00:30:38,184 they're metabolically the same thing. 529 00:30:38,227 --> 00:30:41,927 [ Lustig ] When you consume sugar naturally-- 530 00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:44,320 that is, in fruit-- 531 00:30:44,364 --> 00:30:49,195 you're getting the fiber that you need to mitigate the negative effects. 532 00:30:49,238 --> 00:30:52,024 Am I worried about fruit? No. 533 00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:54,896 But am I worried about fruit juice? Oh, you bet. 534 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:57,725 Because when you take the fiber out, 535 00:30:57,768 --> 00:31:00,336 you might as well be drinking a Coke. 536 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:02,295 I drink diet soda all the time, 537 00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:05,472 and I want to know if diet soda is good for you or bad for you. 538 00:31:05,515 --> 00:31:09,345 [ Hyman ] A lot of people think that they can just switch from sugar to artificial sweeteners-- 539 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:12,261 "diet" this, "diet" that, Splenda, aspartame-- 540 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:14,263 but it triggers hormonal responses... 541 00:31:14,307 --> 00:31:17,005 that cause you to produce more insulin. 542 00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:19,703 They make you crave more. They make you hungry. 543 00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:22,097 You think sugar's on the way. Your brain's like, "Wait a minute. 544 00:31:22,141 --> 00:31:24,012 I think sugar's coming. I tasted it." 545 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:27,842 So, low sugar, low fat, diet foods-- 546 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:31,411 they're dangerous, and they're actually disease producing as well. 547 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,937 Disease doesn't happen with one meal, 548 00:31:35,981 --> 00:31:38,113 but it happens with a thousand. 549 00:31:38,157 --> 00:31:40,942 But that's what we have, because now sugar is with every meal. 550 00:31:49,777 --> 00:31:53,172 Good morning. I am just getting ready to go to school this morning, 551 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:54,608 and I just ate cereal. 552 00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:56,523 ♪♪ [ Acoustic Rock ] 553 00:31:58,133 --> 00:32:00,788 [ Man ] ♪ Sweet on the tip of my tongue ♪ 554 00:32:00,831 --> 00:32:03,182 ♪ You taste like 555 00:32:03,225 --> 00:32:05,488 ♪ Sunlight 556 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:10,450 ♪ And strawberry bubble gum 557 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:13,627 [ Brady ] I have everything I need here to make my healthy lunch. 558 00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:16,325 Some peanut butter. 559 00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:18,023 ♪ You spike my blood 560 00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:24,812 ♪ And you make my heart beat faster ♪ 561 00:32:24,855 --> 00:32:26,814 ♪ Own me, you own 562 00:32:26,857 --> 00:32:28,511 ♪ And rattle my bones 563 00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:31,514 ♪ You turn me over and over 564 00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:33,734 ♪ Till I can't control myself 565 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,215 ♪ Make me a liar, yeah 566 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:38,565 ♪ One big disaster 567 00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:42,699 ♪ You make my heart beat 568 00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:45,354 ♪ Faster [ Vocalizing ] 569 00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:48,314 ♪ 'Cause you make my heart beat ♪ 570 00:32:48,357 --> 00:32:50,707 ♪ Faster 571 00:32:50,751 --> 00:32:52,579 ♪ You make my heart beat 572 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:55,408 ♪ Faster, yeah ♪♪ 573 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:01,327 [ Lustig ] So, 10 years of sugar in the morning, 574 00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:03,894 sugar in the evening, sugar at suppertime, 575 00:33:03,938 --> 00:33:06,506 you've got this veritable tsunami... 576 00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:09,030 of obesity and metabolic disease we see today. 577 00:33:28,267 --> 00:33:31,487 My name is Joe Lopez. I'm 14 years old. 578 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:33,794 And I'm in ninth grade. 579 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:39,147 Right now I'm about nearly 400. 580 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,200 I've tried a lot of things, but... 581 00:33:48,243 --> 00:33:50,115 none of them really work. 582 00:33:50,158 --> 00:33:53,422 I would lose some weight and then gain it back. 583 00:33:55,859 --> 00:33:59,385 [ Man ] All of us in my family have always been heavy-- 584 00:33:59,428 --> 00:34:01,430 all of us. 585 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:03,998 I guess it's culture. 586 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,045 You know. It used to be-- Grandma used to say, 587 00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:12,006 "You don't get off of that table until you eat everything you have on there." 588 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:16,315 And we kind of thought that that's the way it's supposed to be. 589 00:34:16,358 --> 00:34:18,882 [ Mother Speaking Spanish ] 590 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:33,114 [ Joe ] It's not as easy to just stop eating, 591 00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:36,509 because I have a huge appetite... 592 00:34:36,552 --> 00:34:39,294 for Twinkies and all that sweet stuff. 593 00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:45,866 Yes, I know, you're gonna say I'm putting him in harm's way... 594 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:48,260 by giving him all the food that he wants and stuff, 595 00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:50,827 but I know he sneaks stuff-- 596 00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:54,266 cookies and cakes and all that. 597 00:34:54,309 --> 00:34:58,879 Or he gets stuff at school, or he gets stuff with his brother, and, uh-- 598 00:34:58,922 --> 00:35:01,186 You don't have no control over it. 599 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,061 I wish I did, but, uh, you don't. 600 00:35:08,018 --> 00:35:09,672 You don't. 601 00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:19,204 Processed food is much more powerful... 602 00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:22,207 than we ever realized. 603 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:25,166 For decades, we had the science to show that drugs of abuse... 604 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,777 can hijack the neural circuits... 605 00:35:27,821 --> 00:35:29,866 to get us to come back for more and more. 606 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:33,174 We now have the science to show... 607 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:37,047 that you can make food hyper-palatable too, 608 00:35:37,091 --> 00:35:40,921 and that gets us to come back for more and more. 609 00:35:40,964 --> 00:35:42,966 [ Man ] Researchers at Princeton University... 610 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:45,839 have been studying how rats change their eating behavior... 611 00:35:45,882 --> 00:35:48,450 if they're allowed to drink sugar water. 612 00:35:48,494 --> 00:35:52,715 [ Couric ] In a recent study, 43 cocaine-addicted laboratory rats, 613 00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:55,936 were given the choice of cocaine or sugar water... 614 00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,808 over a 15-day period. 615 00:35:58,852 --> 00:36:02,551 Forty out of the 43 chose the sugar. 616 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:05,424 In another study, rats on a sugar water diet... 617 00:36:05,467 --> 00:36:07,817 exhibited telltale signs of addiction-- 618 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:10,864 binging, craving and withdrawal-- 619 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:13,432 when the sugar was taken away. 620 00:36:13,475 --> 00:36:15,608 Food addiction is a real thing. 621 00:36:15,651 --> 00:36:19,786 It's not a metaphor. It's a biological fact. 622 00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:22,919 The studies show that your brain lights up with sugar... 623 00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:25,052 just like it does with cocaine or heroin. 624 00:36:25,095 --> 00:36:28,403 In fact, sugar is eight times more addictive than cocaine. 625 00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:32,146 So, if you start your baby early on addictive, 626 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,193 highly sugary foods, they're gonna become addicted. 627 00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:41,155 [ Lustig ] Take a look at formula. Certain formulas, 628 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,462 especially lactose-free formulas-- 629 00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:45,638 they substitute with sucrose. 630 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:50,643 The food industry knows that the earlier they introduce these foods to people-- 631 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:52,993 to children, to infants-- 632 00:36:53,036 --> 00:36:57,040 the more likely they will have branded them for the future. 633 00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:03,308 [ Couric ] And every generation of kids born after 1980... 634 00:37:03,351 --> 00:37:08,269 has grown up surrounded by these highly addictive foods. 635 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:10,837 I see food, I get hungry. 636 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,231 It's-- I don't know what it is. 637 00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:15,537 I just-- When I see it, I get hungry. 638 00:37:15,581 --> 00:37:19,541 My stomach's telling me I'm not really hungry, but my mind's telling me, "Eat." 639 00:37:19,585 --> 00:37:23,153 If you eat foods that are addictive-- You can't just have one line of coke. 640 00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:26,461 You can't just have, you know, two cigarettes. You're gonna become an addict. 641 00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:29,247 [ Man ] Once you pop, you can't stop! 642 00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:31,292 [ Hyman ] We have to understand that the willpower idea, 643 00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:34,339 that personal responsibility, doesn't work in the face of addiction. 644 00:37:37,646 --> 00:37:39,692 A lot of times people wonder... 645 00:37:39,735 --> 00:37:41,433 why it's so hard to lose weight. 646 00:37:41,476 --> 00:37:43,217 But a big reason might be... 647 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,741 because you actually have those foods-- 648 00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:49,571 the chips and the brownies and the cookies and cakes and ice cream-- 649 00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:52,052 in your house. 650 00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:54,054 It's just like being an alcoholic. 651 00:37:54,097 --> 00:37:57,710 Do you think an alcoholic could withstand from drinking that alcohol... 652 00:37:57,753 --> 00:38:00,756 if he had a bottle of gin sitting next to him? 653 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,151 It'd be tough to do. When you're close to it, you want it. 654 00:38:04,194 --> 00:38:07,197 And it's the same way with food. 655 00:38:07,241 --> 00:38:09,765 [ Kessler ] We like to think we make rational decisions, 656 00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:13,943 but the fact is our brains are getting constantly hijacked. 657 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:17,991 You can't walk, in most cities, most places, 658 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:21,342 more than a hundred feet without having your brain... 659 00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:24,302 being activated in some way. 660 00:38:24,345 --> 00:38:28,349 [ Wootan ] Gas stations used to sell gas. Now they're all convenience stores. 661 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:31,744 And there's junk food at the checkout everywhere-- 662 00:38:31,787 --> 00:38:34,703 at toy stores, at drugstores. 663 00:38:34,747 --> 00:38:38,968 Go to buy stationery supplies, linens, electronics-- 664 00:38:39,012 --> 00:38:44,191 Every store these days has junk food right at the eye level of your kids. 665 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:47,325 And then you add the emotional gloss. You add other things. 666 00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:51,198 You add favorite cartoon characters. 667 00:38:51,241 --> 00:38:54,636 You make it into entertainment. You add toys. 668 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,510 And then you add the carnival-like features. 669 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:01,687 You add all these other layers of stimuli. 670 00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:06,692 And in the end, you end up with one of the great public health epidemics of our time. 671 00:39:06,735 --> 00:39:10,348 Sometimes it's hard. 672 00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:15,135 I see... chocolate, and I just want to eat it. 673 00:39:18,225 --> 00:39:23,317 I wish there was a pill I could take that would just make me thinner. 674 00:39:24,579 --> 00:39:27,539 [ Man ] If a foreign nation... 675 00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:30,629 was causing our children to become obese, 676 00:39:30,672 --> 00:39:34,023 that's going to affect their health and hurt their happiness, 677 00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:36,765 cause them to be depressed, to have poor self-esteem-- 678 00:39:36,809 --> 00:39:40,029 If a foreign nation were doing that to our children, 679 00:39:40,073 --> 00:39:41,901 we'd probably go to war. 680 00:39:41,944 --> 00:39:44,556 We would defend our families. 681 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:49,517 So why do we accept this from our own country? 682 00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:51,606 [ Couric ] Do you think the government is behind... 683 00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:54,696 when it comes to helping Americans reduce their sugar intake? 684 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,524 Yes. I do. Why? Why are they doing this? 685 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:58,787 I think that-- 686 00:39:58,831 --> 00:40:00,920 Or why aren't they doing more? 687 00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:03,705 I can't answer that, 688 00:40:03,749 --> 00:40:06,665 particularly since corn has been turned into fructose... 689 00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:08,928 and is a sweetener for soft drinks, 690 00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:11,452 which I don't think is a good use of corn. 691 00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,193 Um, 692 00:40:13,236 --> 00:40:20,200 but I think that America is still insufficiently alert... 693 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:23,682 to the damage we are doing long-term to our collective health... 694 00:40:23,725 --> 00:40:25,292 by too much sugar intake. 695 00:40:30,123 --> 00:40:34,083 [ Lustig ] In 2002, the World Health Organization... 696 00:40:34,127 --> 00:40:37,347 put together a document known as TRS-916-- 697 00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:39,698 Technical Report Series 916. 698 00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:43,179 And in that document they say, very specifically, 699 00:40:43,223 --> 00:40:47,836 that sugar is a major, if not thecause... 700 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,230 of chronic metabolic disease and obesity. 701 00:40:52,014 --> 00:40:55,061 [ Couric ] The W.H.O. is the division of the United Nations... 702 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:57,846 responsible for setting global health standards. 703 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,809 [ Man ] The World Health Organization wanted to really restrict sugar intake... 704 00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:06,072 to a level that scientists recommended. 705 00:41:06,115 --> 00:41:10,076 They recommended no more than 10% of calories... 706 00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,426 in a diet should come from sugar. 707 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:13,819 Well, the sugar groups... 708 00:41:13,862 --> 00:41:15,211 hit the roof over that one. 709 00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:20,390 There was a very strong pushback in Washington by the industry. 710 00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:22,567 [ Couric ] Senators Larry Craig and John Breaux, 711 00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:25,352 a Republican and a Democrat, 712 00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:29,530 asked then secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy Thompson... 713 00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:31,750 to stop the report. 714 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:33,752 [ Peter Jennings ] The Bush administration is resisting a plan... 715 00:41:33,795 --> 00:41:35,754 from the World Health Organization... 716 00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:38,583 to fight obesity on an international scale. 717 00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:41,411 The administration says it is too tough on the food industry. 718 00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:46,591 [ Lustig ] Tommy Thompson actually took a jet to Geneva... 719 00:41:46,634 --> 00:41:49,507 and basically told the World Health Organization... 720 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:51,683 that if they published this document, 721 00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:55,513 we would withhold the $406 million... 722 00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:59,560 that we were going to pay them as our contribution to the W.H.O. 723 00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:04,609 In other words, we extorted the W.H.O. to bury this document. 724 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:09,831 The sugar recommendation was deleted from most World Health Organization reports... 725 00:42:09,875 --> 00:42:12,138 going forward up to this very day. 726 00:42:12,181 --> 00:42:14,662 [ Couric ] Lobbyists for the sugar industry... 727 00:42:14,706 --> 00:42:19,580 recommended that 25% of calories in your daily diet... 728 00:42:19,624 --> 00:42:22,061 should come from sugar, 729 00:42:22,104 --> 00:42:26,326 two and a half times the W.H.O. recommendation. 730 00:42:26,369 --> 00:42:29,068 While food nutrition labels list government-recommended... 731 00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:31,592 daily amounts of various nutrients, 732 00:42:31,636 --> 00:42:34,508 today when you look on any food label, 733 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:39,600 you will not find sugar listed with a percentage for the daily recommendation. 734 00:42:39,644 --> 00:42:41,863 The question is whether or not our government... 735 00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:46,868 has been complacent or even complicit with this... 736 00:42:46,912 --> 00:42:49,044 food debacle. 737 00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:52,874 And the answer is absolutely. 738 00:42:52,918 --> 00:42:55,311 The sugar industry's extraordinarily powerful, 739 00:42:55,355 --> 00:42:57,618 and there's a lot of money involved. 740 00:42:57,662 --> 00:43:00,969 [ Hyman ] We have a food industry that's feeding America... 741 00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:06,409 mostly highly processed, sugary foods that are killing us-- that are making us fat and sick. 742 00:43:06,453 --> 00:43:10,022 This is the fundamental problem that nobody's talking about in the society. 743 00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:15,070 [ Applause ] 744 00:43:15,114 --> 00:43:17,420 Thank you, everyone. 745 00:43:18,944 --> 00:43:22,034 We're all here today because we care deeply... 746 00:43:22,077 --> 00:43:25,559 about the health and well-being of not just these kids up here, 747 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:29,345 but for all kids like them all across the country. 748 00:43:29,389 --> 00:43:32,697 And clearly we're determined to finally take on... 749 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:35,830 one of the most serious threats to their future, 750 00:43:35,874 --> 00:43:39,529 and that's the epidemic of childhood obesity in America today. 751 00:43:39,573 --> 00:43:43,055 We've got some talented chefs and nutritionists here... 752 00:43:43,098 --> 00:43:44,752 to teach us how to make healthy breakfasts-- 753 00:43:44,796 --> 00:43:46,624 Farmers' markets do more than just... 754 00:43:46,667 --> 00:43:49,235 help Americans feed their families healthy meals, they help-- 755 00:43:49,278 --> 00:43:51,106 We're issuing a call to action. 756 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:54,240 We need you not just to tweak around the edges, 757 00:43:54,283 --> 00:43:58,200 but to entirely rethink the products that you're offering. 758 00:43:58,244 --> 00:44:01,334 [ Wilson ] In the first months of the Obama administration, 759 00:44:01,377 --> 00:44:06,208 she was exhorting the industry to change its products and to cut its children's marketing... 760 00:44:06,252 --> 00:44:09,821 and to really make substantive changes that way. 761 00:44:09,864 --> 00:44:12,301 [ Man ] My guess is when the food industry heard Michelle Obama... 762 00:44:12,345 --> 00:44:14,390 launch her Let's Move campaign, 763 00:44:14,434 --> 00:44:16,305 they reacted in terror. 764 00:44:16,349 --> 00:44:19,613 Our kids don't choose to make food products... 765 00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:23,443 with tons of sugar and sodium and super-sized portions... 766 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:27,360 and then to have those products marketed to them everywhere they turn. 767 00:44:27,403 --> 00:44:30,406 [ Pollan ] That's a terrifying discussion for the food industry. 768 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:32,713 So what did they do? 769 00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:34,541 They volunteered to help her. 770 00:44:41,417 --> 00:44:45,030 I am so pleased to announce a major agreement... 771 00:44:45,073 --> 00:44:47,728 on the part of the private sector corporations... 772 00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:50,992 to improve the nutrition of the food that we put on the table, 773 00:44:51,036 --> 00:44:53,255 or that we grab on the run. 774 00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:55,127 The Healthy Weight Commitment... 775 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:57,825 is a partnership between 16 corporations-- 776 00:44:57,869 --> 00:44:59,914 [ Pollan ] Pepsi, Coca-Cola-- 777 00:44:59,958 --> 00:45:02,221 everybody's offering to help. 778 00:45:02,264 --> 00:45:04,832 But you have to look at what they're offering to do. 779 00:45:04,876 --> 00:45:08,314 We're very fortunate that the first lady has taken on this initiative... 780 00:45:08,357 --> 00:45:10,359 so people are starting to talk about it more. 781 00:45:10,403 --> 00:45:12,535 In the schools, we have a program... 782 00:45:12,579 --> 00:45:16,104 where we have P.E. teachers and nutritionists working together, 783 00:45:16,148 --> 00:45:18,454 teaching the kids about calories in and calories out... 784 00:45:18,498 --> 00:45:20,587 and really paying attention to what you eat, 785 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:23,416 and then paying attention to the exercise you do every day. 786 00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:26,811 Also, we went to the White House, and we did an announcement with Mrs. Obama... 787 00:45:26,854 --> 00:45:31,859 that our companies would be pulling 1.5 trillion calories out of the marketplace in 2015. 788 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:34,862 And so we're very happy that we can provide healthier choices... 789 00:45:34,906 --> 00:45:36,995 for moms as they're shopping for their kids. 790 00:45:44,567 --> 00:45:47,570 [ Taubes ] Fourteen calories a day is a single bite of food. 791 00:45:47,614 --> 00:45:50,573 It's a couple sips of a soda. It's a bite of an apple. 792 00:45:50,617 --> 00:45:52,358 It's nothing. 793 00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:56,492 They've agreed to reformulate their foods in a number of ways. 794 00:45:56,536 --> 00:45:58,756 [ Pollan ] All the food manufacturers drew her into... 795 00:45:58,799 --> 00:46:03,456 a very long, complicated, intricate discussion about processed food-- 796 00:46:03,499 --> 00:46:05,763 how we can make processed food better. 797 00:46:14,032 --> 00:46:16,121 But whatever they do to processed foods, 798 00:46:16,164 --> 00:46:17,687 it will be used to sell us... 799 00:46:17,731 --> 00:46:18,950 more processed foods... 800 00:46:18,993 --> 00:46:20,386 than we should probably eat. 801 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:24,129 That's the beauty of a processed food. 802 00:46:24,172 --> 00:46:26,827 You can dial up the carbs, dial down the carbs. 803 00:46:26,871 --> 00:46:30,048 Same with the proteins. Same with the sugars. 804 00:46:30,091 --> 00:46:32,920 All these changes become marketing claims, 805 00:46:32,964 --> 00:46:35,967 designed to get you to buy more. 806 00:46:36,010 --> 00:46:38,883 [ Hyman ] The food industry has bamboozled and hoodwinked us... 807 00:46:38,926 --> 00:46:41,799 into thinking that there are healthier alternatives. 808 00:46:41,842 --> 00:46:44,236 Junk is still junk, even if it's less junky. 809 00:46:45,411 --> 00:46:47,326 [ Lustig ] It's about making money. 810 00:46:47,369 --> 00:46:50,068 That's their bottom line. 811 00:46:50,111 --> 00:46:52,200 They're in business to make money, 812 00:46:52,244 --> 00:46:53,811 not to keep America healthy. 813 00:46:56,552 --> 00:47:00,730 [ Woman ] 814 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,084 Well, the companies actually have three options... 815 00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:08,216 to participate in the calorie commitment: 816 00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:11,872 They can change the recipe of existing products, 817 00:47:11,916 --> 00:47:14,614 they can introduce new products into the marketplace, 818 00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:19,053 and they can also introduce portion-size products into the marketplace. 819 00:47:19,097 --> 00:47:21,273 So, if they're-- So-- 820 00:47:28,454 --> 00:47:31,631 You're going to be introducing new lower- and zero-calorie products. 821 00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:40,553 Well, you have a significant transition that's taken place in the last 10 years, 822 00:47:40,596 --> 00:47:46,124 and I think that, uh, most moms and dads know when you walk through the grocery store, 823 00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:49,388 and you're making that selection as to what products you want to buy, 824 00:47:49,431 --> 00:47:52,086 you have options that are zero-calorie options, 825 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:55,437 lower-calorie options and full-calorie options. 826 00:47:55,481 --> 00:47:58,571 [ Woman ] It feels like we're avoiding the question. 827 00:47:58,614 --> 00:48:00,834 [ Pollan ] That's the industry's response. 828 00:48:00,878 --> 00:48:03,837 Change the conversation from real food... 829 00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:06,796 and cooking and going to the farmers' market... 830 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,756 to reengineer processed foods... 831 00:48:09,799 --> 00:48:12,672 and exercise. 832 00:48:12,715 --> 00:48:16,676 [ Man ] Before too long, the first lady was emphasizing more and more... 833 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,635 the "exercise" part of the Let's Move campaign. 834 00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:23,770 Shouldn't be so hard to get them to run around and play, right? 835 00:48:23,813 --> 00:48:27,208 This isn't forcing them to eat their vegetables. [ Audience Laughs ] 836 00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,863 It's getting them to go out there and have fun. 837 00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:33,867 It's about how active our kids are. 838 00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:41,309 This isn't about demonizing any industry or any, you know-- 839 00:48:41,353 --> 00:48:43,442 It's not about demonizing parents, 840 00:48:43,485 --> 00:48:46,097 and it's not about demonizing businesses. 841 00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:49,491 [ Pollan ] From the beginning the name "Let's Move"... 842 00:48:49,535 --> 00:48:52,712 was not meant to evoke exercise. 843 00:48:52,755 --> 00:48:56,411 - It was meant to evoke action on the issue. - Issuing a call to action. 844 00:48:56,455 --> 00:48:59,414 But what a food industry person hears is... 845 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:01,764 their interpretation of the obesity epidemic, 846 00:49:01,808 --> 00:49:03,897 which is that we are too sedentary. 847 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:07,118 It's our own damn fault because we're sitting, watching TV too much. 848 00:49:07,161 --> 00:49:09,555 It's not the food. 849 00:49:09,598 --> 00:49:12,253 And I think that was a very unfortunate message for the White House to put out... 850 00:49:12,297 --> 00:49:14,125 because it isthe food. 851 00:49:16,214 --> 00:49:18,390 [ Couric ] And the food, 852 00:49:18,433 --> 00:49:22,133 especially the abundance of cheap, processed, sugar-laden products, 853 00:49:22,176 --> 00:49:24,744 is a direct result of government policy. 854 00:49:26,224 --> 00:49:30,358 Mainly the United States Department of Agriculture. 855 00:49:30,402 --> 00:49:33,100 The U.S.D.A. was initially created... 856 00:49:33,144 --> 00:49:36,974 to help farmers thrive by promoting their products. 857 00:49:37,017 --> 00:49:39,585 But in the aftermath of the McGovern Report, 858 00:49:39,628 --> 00:49:43,719 the U.S.D.A. inherited dietary guidelines as well. 859 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,549 When obesity became a problem, 860 00:49:47,593 --> 00:49:51,379 the Department of Agriculture was put into conflict of interest. 861 00:49:51,423 --> 00:49:53,816 Because on the one hand it was telling people to eat less... 862 00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:55,775 in order to prevent obesity, 863 00:49:55,818 --> 00:49:58,256 and on the other hand it was telling people to eat more... 864 00:49:58,299 --> 00:50:01,172 to promote consumption of American agricultural products. 865 00:50:03,261 --> 00:50:06,655 [ Man ] They can't do a good job of both, 866 00:50:06,699 --> 00:50:09,658 and because of lobbying dollars and where the money really is, 867 00:50:09,702 --> 00:50:12,661 it's doing a much better job of promoting U.S. agriculture... 868 00:50:12,705 --> 00:50:15,490 than it is in teaching us and helping us how to eat well. 869 00:50:17,057 --> 00:50:19,190 [ Couric ] One clear example of this conflict... 870 00:50:19,233 --> 00:50:22,584 is the curious case of cheese. 871 00:50:22,628 --> 00:50:25,065 Remember back in the 1980s... 872 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:28,764 when the food industry began taking out the fat from its products... 873 00:50:28,808 --> 00:50:30,244 after the McGovern Report? 874 00:50:31,463 --> 00:50:34,335 [ Man ] Women, and girls especially, 875 00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:37,077 became a little bit more health-conscious... 876 00:50:37,121 --> 00:50:39,819 and started drinking skim milk. 877 00:50:39,862 --> 00:50:42,604 Did you ever stop to think what happened... 878 00:50:42,648 --> 00:50:46,173 to the fat in the milk when it became skim? 879 00:50:46,217 --> 00:50:49,742 [ Couric ] Well, one way to make use of milk fat... 880 00:50:49,785 --> 00:50:52,788 is to turn it into cheese. 881 00:50:52,832 --> 00:50:56,227 As the demand for low fat milk increased over the years, 882 00:50:56,270 --> 00:51:00,927 the government found itself with a lot of cheese they didn't know what to do with. 883 00:51:00,970 --> 00:51:03,799 [ Moss ] Instead of pushing the dairy industry... 884 00:51:03,843 --> 00:51:05,801 to cut back on the production, 885 00:51:05,845 --> 00:51:08,848 Washington came up with this other idea. 886 00:51:08,891 --> 00:51:13,418 Why don't we help the industry sell more cheese... 887 00:51:13,461 --> 00:51:16,551 by getting people to eat more cheese? 888 00:51:18,205 --> 00:51:21,034 [ Female Singers ] ♪ Cheese, glorious cheese 889 00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:23,776 [ Male Singers ] ♪ Tastes mighty inviting 890 00:51:23,819 --> 00:51:26,648 [ Female Singers ] ♪ Cheese, glorious cheese 891 00:51:26,692 --> 00:51:30,304 [ Male Singers ] ♪ It's so tantalizing ♪ 892 00:51:30,348 --> 00:51:33,525 [ Moss ] Dairy Management was created in 1995... 893 00:51:33,568 --> 00:51:36,658 to act as a marketing arm of the dairy industry. 894 00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:39,618 [ Couric ] Financed by the farmers, 895 00:51:39,661 --> 00:51:41,228 with oversight by the U.S.D.A., 896 00:51:41,272 --> 00:51:44,318 Dairy Management helped flood the marketplace... 897 00:51:44,362 --> 00:51:46,103 with good-looking cheese. 898 00:51:49,018 --> 00:51:51,630 [ Moss ] Now walk into the dairy aisle, 899 00:51:51,673 --> 00:51:54,981 and the cheese section is bulging... 900 00:51:55,024 --> 00:51:57,462 with packages of cheese-- 901 00:51:57,505 --> 00:52:03,032 shredded, cubed, diced, grated, 902 00:52:03,076 --> 00:52:08,342 made as simple as possible for adding to other foods. 903 00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:10,518 Some of the things that Dairy Management did... 904 00:52:10,562 --> 00:52:12,607 to encourage the consumption of cheese... 905 00:52:12,651 --> 00:52:16,437 were so clever that the U.S.D.A. actually bragged on them... 906 00:52:16,481 --> 00:52:19,092 in its annual reports to Congress. 907 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:22,095 In 2007, for example, 908 00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:27,274 it noted how the industry was able to sell 30 million more pounds... 909 00:52:27,318 --> 00:52:31,322 by designing things like Pizza Hut's Cheesy Bites Pizza, 910 00:52:31,365 --> 00:52:34,673 Wendy's Dual Double Melt sandwich concept... 911 00:52:34,716 --> 00:52:40,026 and Burger King's Cheesy Angus Bacon Cheeseburger. 912 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:44,248 So at the same time the Agriculture Department is promoting consumption of cheese, 913 00:52:44,291 --> 00:52:49,209 its small unit, charged with protecting consumers and fighting obesity, 914 00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:52,473 puts out these little brochures that encourage people... 915 00:52:52,517 --> 00:52:55,172 to eat lesscheese. 916 00:52:57,217 --> 00:53:00,438 If the U.S.D.A. really wants to increase cheese consumption... 917 00:53:00,481 --> 00:53:03,049 andpromote a healthy lifestyle, 918 00:53:03,092 --> 00:53:04,616 here is an easy solution-- 919 00:53:04,659 --> 00:53:07,053 cheesercize. 920 00:53:07,096 --> 00:53:09,882 Just grab a set of baby bells... 921 00:53:09,925 --> 00:53:12,058 and really work those "goudes." 922 00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:14,321 [ Audience Cheering ] Oh! 923 00:53:14,365 --> 00:53:17,759 [ Couric ] The problem is, it's not just cheese. 924 00:53:17,803 --> 00:53:21,198 This conflict between public health and promoting agriculture... 925 00:53:21,241 --> 00:53:23,635 plays out across the board. 926 00:53:23,678 --> 00:53:27,029 The U.S.D.A. says to limit your sugar intake, 927 00:53:27,073 --> 00:53:30,772 yet has provided over $8 billion in subsidies... 928 00:53:30,816 --> 00:53:32,731 for corn-based sweeteners... 929 00:53:32,774 --> 00:53:34,733 since 1995. 930 00:53:34,776 --> 00:53:37,779 It's fair to say that the government is subsidizing... 931 00:53:37,823 --> 00:53:39,433 the obesity epidemic, 932 00:53:39,477 --> 00:53:41,174 inadvertently, through its subsidies of corn, 933 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,655 which gets turned into high-fructose corn syrup... 934 00:53:43,698 --> 00:53:47,311 and all those weird ingredients that you see in processed food-- 935 00:53:47,354 --> 00:53:49,313 the maltodextrin, the xanthan gum, 936 00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:51,750 all those words you can't pronounce. 937 00:53:51,793 --> 00:53:53,882 So you have the government... 938 00:53:53,926 --> 00:53:56,450 in this crazy, schizophrenic situation... 939 00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:58,235 where, on the one hand, 940 00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:02,064 they're subsidizing precisely the foods that are making us sick, 941 00:54:02,108 --> 00:54:05,981 and then on the other are now on the hook to set the standards... 942 00:54:06,025 --> 00:54:08,332 for school lunches for our kids. 943 00:54:20,561 --> 00:54:24,913 [ Brady ] Chili cheese fries, nachos, fried chicken-- 944 00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:28,569 all these fattening and greasy foods... 945 00:54:28,613 --> 00:54:30,745 are just clogging up our schools. 946 00:54:30,789 --> 00:54:33,313 School, we're supposed to be healthy. 947 00:54:33,357 --> 00:54:36,273 My school has nachos every day for school, 948 00:54:36,316 --> 00:54:39,711 and three-fourths of our students in high school choose nachos. 949 00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:43,715 All my bad decisions are when I'm at school, 950 00:54:43,758 --> 00:54:45,630 at lunchtime, at breakfast time. 951 00:54:45,673 --> 00:54:48,676 'Cause there's no other choice. Either you eat or you starve. 952 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,766 Today at lunch we had hamburgers. 953 00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:55,030 You either had a chance to get a cheeseburger or a sloppy joe. 954 00:54:55,074 --> 00:54:57,076 Neither one of them's really that healthy. 955 00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:03,343 [ Maggie ] Other options that they had were this place called the student store. 956 00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:04,953 They have a daily special, 957 00:55:04,997 --> 00:55:08,653 like Monday is Papa John's pizza, 958 00:55:08,696 --> 00:55:10,394 Tuesday is Chick-fil-A, 959 00:55:10,437 --> 00:55:13,919 Wednesday is Arby's, 960 00:55:13,962 --> 00:55:16,138 Thursday is Pizza Hut... 961 00:55:16,182 --> 00:55:19,316 and Friday is McDonald's. 962 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:23,842 And then this is the slushie machine that they have. 963 00:55:23,885 --> 00:55:26,758 [ Pollan ] The school lunch program has evolved in such a way... 964 00:55:26,801 --> 00:55:29,761 that it really is serving the food processors... 965 00:55:29,804 --> 00:55:32,329 much more than it is serving the students. 966 00:55:35,157 --> 00:55:38,770 [ Couric ] The government got in the school lunch business after World War II. 967 00:55:42,208 --> 00:55:44,558 1946. 968 00:55:44,602 --> 00:55:48,083 President Harry Truman signed the National School Lunch Act... 969 00:55:48,127 --> 00:55:51,478 after a huge number of military recruits were rejected... 970 00:55:51,522 --> 00:55:54,046 because of malnutrition. 971 00:55:54,089 --> 00:55:57,179 On February 18 I will present in detail... 972 00:55:57,223 --> 00:55:59,443 an economic program to Congress... 973 00:55:59,486 --> 00:56:03,360 reducing the growth in government spending to reduce unemployment. 974 00:56:03,403 --> 00:56:06,101 [ Couric ] In 1981, President Ronald Reagan, 975 00:56:06,145 --> 00:56:08,408 looking to limit the role of government, 976 00:56:08,452 --> 00:56:11,237 cut $1.46 billion... 977 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,370 out of the child nutrition budget. 978 00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:15,067 [ Reagan ] It will propose budget cuts... 979 00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:17,156 in virtually every department of the government. 980 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:19,767 [ Couric ] Many schools got rid of their cooking equipment... 981 00:56:19,811 --> 00:56:25,425 and turned to the food industry to make lunch cheap and simple-- 982 00:56:25,469 --> 00:56:28,036 kid-friendly favorites that could be heated and served. 983 00:56:29,516 --> 00:56:33,041 In 2006, 80% of all high schools... 984 00:56:33,085 --> 00:56:37,176 operated under exclusive contracts with soda companies, 985 00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:42,224 and by 2012 more than half of all U.S. school districts... 986 00:56:42,268 --> 00:56:43,835 served fast food. 987 00:56:45,489 --> 00:56:48,883 The food industry infiltration of the schools is deplorable. 988 00:56:48,927 --> 00:56:51,538 The schools have become dependent on the money, 989 00:56:51,582 --> 00:56:53,322 and it's a bargain with the devil. 990 00:56:54,802 --> 00:56:57,849 Some schools have become like a 7-Eleven with books. 991 00:56:57,892 --> 00:57:01,243 - [ Applause ] - We are thrilled to be here with all of you... 992 00:57:01,287 --> 00:57:05,509 as I sign the Healthy, Hungry-Free Kids Act, 993 00:57:05,552 --> 00:57:10,601 a bill that's vitally important to the health and welfare of our kids. 994 00:57:10,644 --> 00:57:14,256 [ Couric ] In 2010 President Barack Obama signed the bill... 995 00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,912 authorizing the U.S.D.A. to come up with new standards... 996 00:57:17,956 --> 00:57:20,524 for the federally funded school lunch program... 997 00:57:20,567 --> 00:57:22,134 in an effort to make it healthier. 998 00:57:24,528 --> 00:57:29,054 This had the effect of possibly eliminating pizza from school. 999 00:57:29,097 --> 00:57:32,361 Well, the Schwan Company in Minnesota... 1000 00:57:32,405 --> 00:57:35,452 is a $3 billion private company... 1001 00:57:35,495 --> 00:57:40,674 which accounts for 70% of the pizza market in the U.S. school lunches. 1002 00:57:40,718 --> 00:57:43,895 They could not have pizza eliminated from school. 1003 00:57:43,938 --> 00:57:47,333 So their senator in Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, 1004 00:57:47,376 --> 00:57:49,988 wrote a letter to the Department of Agriculture... 1005 00:57:50,031 --> 00:57:53,513 to protect their frozen pizzas in school lunches. 1006 00:57:53,557 --> 00:57:56,385 It had kind of a complicated process... 1007 00:57:56,429 --> 00:57:59,301 where the effect was to count a slice of pizza as a vegetable. 1008 00:58:00,999 --> 00:58:03,001 [ Man ] It's common sense. It's not a vegetable. 1009 00:58:03,044 --> 00:58:05,525 What's next? Are Twinkies gonna be considered a vegetable? 1010 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:08,136 Rather than having a deliberative effort, 1011 00:58:08,180 --> 00:58:09,790 we have special interests... 1012 00:58:09,834 --> 00:58:12,532 inserting these provisions into these bills... 1013 00:58:12,576 --> 00:58:14,403 contrary to the public health. 1014 00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:18,146 In terms of the pizza issue, 1015 00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:20,975 we proposed a set of guidelines, 1016 00:58:21,019 --> 00:58:23,151 and Congress essentially suggested... 1017 00:58:23,195 --> 00:58:25,110 that they wanted a slightly different approach. 1018 00:58:25,153 --> 00:58:27,112 [ Couric ] Was that frustrating for you? 1019 00:58:27,155 --> 00:58:29,201 Well, it's a little frustrating, sure. 1020 00:58:29,244 --> 00:58:32,552 But at the end of the day-- Tomato paste is a vegetable? 1021 00:58:32,596 --> 00:58:34,902 Really? Well, it's-- Well, uh-- 1022 00:58:34,946 --> 00:58:37,688 Not in my household, but, uh-- but, I mean, 1023 00:58:37,731 --> 00:58:40,386 somebody could probably make the, um-- 1024 00:58:40,429 --> 00:58:42,606 the scientific argument that it is. 1025 00:58:42,649 --> 00:58:45,739 But it's not how I perceive a vegetable. 1026 00:58:45,783 --> 00:58:50,483 [ Couric ] By 2012, the revised regulations were issued. 1027 00:58:50,527 --> 00:58:52,659 The U.S.D.A. increased the lunch budget... 1028 00:58:52,703 --> 00:58:55,793 for the first time in 30 years, 1029 00:58:55,836 --> 00:58:57,490 by six cents, 1030 00:58:57,534 --> 00:58:59,927 set a new maximum on calories... 1031 00:58:59,971 --> 00:59:03,017 and doubled the required amounts of fruits and vegetables, 1032 00:59:03,061 --> 00:59:07,021 which still includes french fries and pizza. 1033 00:59:07,065 --> 00:59:11,069 [ Maggie ] It doesn't look like the lunches have improved that much. 1034 00:59:11,112 --> 00:59:14,768 They have hamburgers and cheeseburgers, chicken-fried steak... 1035 00:59:14,812 --> 00:59:16,596 and pizza today. 1036 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,338 [ Woman ] We have a main dish every day... 1037 00:59:19,381 --> 00:59:21,558 that is very healthy. 1038 00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:25,997 We probably did about 25 of those... 1039 00:59:27,476 --> 00:59:29,740 out of, like, 350. 1040 00:59:30,654 --> 00:59:32,481 They kind of like-- 1041 00:59:32,525 --> 00:59:37,312 "I'll have the pizza." And they'd rather get fries and cookies. 1042 00:59:37,356 --> 00:59:40,838 But you can't choose for 'em. They have to choose for themselves. 1043 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:44,058 [ Woman ] I don't know any child... 1044 00:59:44,102 --> 00:59:47,105 who would rather have vegetables over a candy bar... 1045 00:59:47,148 --> 00:59:49,586 when both are placed in front of them. 1046 00:59:51,152 --> 00:59:53,459 [ Couric ] A lot of these fast food restaurants... 1047 00:59:53,502 --> 00:59:56,854 are still operating in school cafeterias all across the country. 1048 00:59:56,897 --> 00:59:59,117 And it's-- it's not a good thing. 1049 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,902 I don't agree with all the new guidelines. 1050 01:00:01,946 --> 01:00:04,557 I wish they'd gone a little further. 1051 01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:08,779 We could cure literally 80% of the problem... 1052 01:00:08,822 --> 01:00:12,043 for children in school... 1053 01:00:12,086 --> 01:00:15,742 if we went back to school cafeterias where they prepared the food in the school. 1054 01:00:15,786 --> 01:00:18,702 - What can I get for you, babe? - Can I have a cheeseburger, please? 1055 01:00:18,745 --> 01:00:20,660 You sure can. 1056 01:00:20,704 --> 01:00:22,140 Thank you. 1057 01:00:27,928 --> 01:00:30,061 [ Carole ] Have you lost any weight? 1058 01:00:33,673 --> 01:00:35,806 [ Voice Breaking ] It's just kind of aggravating... 1059 01:00:35,849 --> 01:00:38,286 because-- 1060 01:00:38,330 --> 01:00:40,637 I mean, my weight's not really going... 1061 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,900 the way it's supposed to go. 1062 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,949 [ Brownell ] When we release our children into the care of schools, 1063 01:00:48,993 --> 01:00:52,605 we expect that they're not going to drink unsafe water that will make them sick, 1064 01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,826 we don't expect them to breathe unsafe air that will make them sick, 1065 01:00:55,869 --> 01:00:59,699 and we shouldn't expect them to eat unsafe food that will make them sick. 1066 01:00:59,743 --> 01:01:03,181 The industry, I think, cares less about what they sell in schools... 1067 01:01:03,224 --> 01:01:05,879 than the opportunity they have to market their brand. 1068 01:01:06,967 --> 01:01:08,665 We're paying a very dear price... 1069 01:01:08,708 --> 01:01:11,015 for letting the food industry act at will... 1070 01:01:11,058 --> 01:01:13,539 in recruiting our children as loyal customers. 1071 01:01:13,582 --> 01:01:16,585 [ Man ] I remember I went to a preschool once, 1072 01:01:16,629 --> 01:01:19,284 and the kids were sitting on little chairs-- little red-and-white chairs... 1073 01:01:19,327 --> 01:01:22,330 that said "Coca-Cola." [ Chuckles ] 1074 01:01:22,374 --> 01:01:25,029 What do they think? Well, Coca-Cola's good. 1075 01:01:25,072 --> 01:01:28,728 It's part of preschool. I should be drinking more Coca-Colas. 1076 01:01:28,772 --> 01:01:33,515 Marketers want to start to target kids as early as they can. 1077 01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,388 Studies show that children as young as two and three... 1078 01:01:36,431 --> 01:01:38,172 start to recognize brands. 1079 01:01:40,697 --> 01:01:43,743 [ Wootan ] The problem is, they don't see any commercials... 1080 01:01:43,787 --> 01:01:46,224 for bananas, strawberries, zucchini and broccoli. 1081 01:01:46,267 --> 01:01:49,618 It shapes the whole way they think about food-- 1082 01:01:49,662 --> 01:01:51,969 what they think food is. 1083 01:01:54,275 --> 01:01:55,755 [ Couric ] There have been attempts to regulate... 1084 01:01:55,799 --> 01:01:58,105 how we market food to children... 1085 01:01:58,149 --> 01:02:00,978 since the very beginning of the obesity epidemic. 1086 01:02:01,892 --> 01:02:03,632 1977-- 1087 01:02:03,676 --> 01:02:06,026 the same year as the McGovern Report. 1088 01:02:06,070 --> 01:02:08,855 Consumer advocates lobbied the Federal Trade Commission, 1089 01:02:08,899 --> 01:02:12,163 the government arm in charge of advertising, 1090 01:02:12,206 --> 01:02:15,557 to regulate ads for sugar-laden products. 1091 01:02:15,601 --> 01:02:17,124 It's grr-r-reat! 1092 01:02:17,168 --> 01:02:19,779 The executive director of the Federal Trade Commission... 1093 01:02:19,823 --> 01:02:22,477 says the group is slowly coming to the conclusion... 1094 01:02:22,521 --> 01:02:25,872 that television advertising aimed at children is unfair. 1095 01:02:25,916 --> 01:02:28,005 [ Man ] The cumulative effect... 1096 01:02:28,048 --> 01:02:30,877 of the thousands of hours of advertising viewed by children... 1097 01:02:30,921 --> 01:02:35,360 is that kids are being told the biggest lie they will ever hear in their lives. 1098 01:02:35,403 --> 01:02:38,929 It's not fair to use the public airwaves to encourage children... 1099 01:02:38,972 --> 01:02:42,628 to develop health habits and buying patterns... 1100 01:02:42,671 --> 01:02:44,543 which they will probably keep up in adulthood... 1101 01:02:44,586 --> 01:02:46,240 that are hazardous to health. 1102 01:02:46,284 --> 01:02:48,939 [ Male Reporter ] The F.T.C.'s proposed restrictions... 1103 01:02:48,982 --> 01:02:52,377 have been defended as vital to protect the health of America's children... 1104 01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:55,989 and assailed as an attack on free enterprise, free speech... 1105 01:02:56,033 --> 01:03:00,428 and as a dangerous intrusion by the federal government into family life. 1106 01:03:00,472 --> 01:03:04,389 [ Couric ] Broadcasters, advertising agencies and toy companies... 1107 01:03:04,432 --> 01:03:06,434 all banded together... 1108 01:03:06,478 --> 01:03:10,308 to prevent the F.T.C. from regulating children's television. 1109 01:03:10,351 --> 01:03:12,832 [ Cronkite ] And an official of Quaker Oats... 1110 01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,269 said one of the best uses of sugar he could think of... 1111 01:03:15,313 --> 01:03:17,271 was getting children to eat their cereal. 1112 01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:19,708 [ Couric ] Big Food won the battle. 1113 01:03:19,752 --> 01:03:22,711 No regulations were put in place. 1114 01:03:22,755 --> 01:03:25,802 But marketing to kids really took off a few years later... 1115 01:03:25,845 --> 01:03:28,630 with processed foods. 1116 01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:32,504 And with the advent of corn syrup, a cheaper alternative to sugar, 1117 01:03:32,547 --> 01:03:35,550 the big food makers had more money to spend... 1118 01:03:35,594 --> 01:03:38,423 on bigger sizes with better prices... 1119 01:03:38,466 --> 01:03:40,599 and on ad campaigns with corporate tie-ins... 1120 01:03:40,642 --> 01:03:43,384 and high-priced celebrity endorsements. 1121 01:03:43,428 --> 01:03:46,257 [ Michael Jackson ] ♪ You're a whole new generation ♪ 1122 01:03:47,780 --> 01:03:49,913 ♪ You're a whole new generation ♪ 1123 01:03:49,956 --> 01:03:52,437 [ Couric ] Now food advertising is everywhere. 1124 01:03:56,963 --> 01:03:59,661 - Diet Snapple? - I know! It tastes just like regular Snapple, doesn't it? 1125 01:03:59,705 --> 01:04:02,664 Dr. Pepper's unbelievably satisfying. 1126 01:04:02,708 --> 01:04:05,363 [ Harkin ] We in this Congress have a responsibility... 1127 01:04:05,406 --> 01:04:07,582 to protect America's children... 1128 01:04:07,626 --> 01:04:11,935 from the sophisticated, aggressive, relentless marketing of junk food to our children. 1129 01:04:11,978 --> 01:04:14,111 [ Couric ] With obesity rates skyrocketing, 1130 01:04:14,154 --> 01:04:16,983 Congress tried again in 2004... 1131 01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:20,334 to regulate food industry marketing to children. 1132 01:04:20,378 --> 01:04:25,774 Big Food and Fast Food responded much like they did 20 years before. 1133 01:04:25,818 --> 01:04:29,039 When I hear this discussion, I hear "marketing to children," 1134 01:04:29,082 --> 01:04:31,432 which really you're saying "advertising to children," 1135 01:04:31,476 --> 01:04:33,347 and you're also saying, "It's all bad." 1136 01:04:33,391 --> 01:04:35,132 And that's just not true. 1137 01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:38,222 Ronald McDonald never sells to children. 1138 01:04:38,265 --> 01:04:41,181 He informs and inspires through magic and fun. 1139 01:04:44,489 --> 01:04:47,884 [ Brownell ] Industry under threat of government regulation... 1140 01:04:47,927 --> 01:04:50,582 will say "We can police ourselves." 1141 01:04:50,625 --> 01:04:54,803 And they launch into this series of self-regulatory promises... 1142 01:04:54,847 --> 01:04:58,285 that we'll market less to children, we'll pull our products out of schools. 1143 01:04:58,329 --> 01:05:01,419 When you hold them accountable and study whether changes have been made, what do you find? 1144 01:05:01,462 --> 01:05:03,551 It's not a pretty picture. 1145 01:05:03,595 --> 01:05:05,684 [ Announcer ] Keeps 'em full, keeps 'em focused. 1146 01:05:05,727 --> 01:05:08,252 - Get a spectacular Spider-Man toy! - Made with real fruit! 1147 01:05:08,295 --> 01:05:09,993 [ Child ] Thanks, Mom! 1148 01:05:10,036 --> 01:05:12,038 [ Couric ] With the fox guarding the henhouse, 1149 01:05:12,082 --> 01:05:15,346 children's exposure to junk food ads, including online, 1150 01:05:15,389 --> 01:05:19,219 increased 60% from 2008 to 2010. 1151 01:05:19,263 --> 01:05:22,005 The Federal Trade Commission has less authority... 1152 01:05:22,048 --> 01:05:24,964 to regulate advertising to kids than it does to adults. 1153 01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:28,272 You would think that would be just the other way around. 1154 01:05:29,795 --> 01:05:32,189 [ Cohen ] There are several studies that show... 1155 01:05:32,232 --> 01:05:34,974 that when children are watching television, 1156 01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:37,368 especially with food commercials, 1157 01:05:37,411 --> 01:05:39,500 they're primed to eat more. 1158 01:05:39,544 --> 01:05:42,112 One study had kids watching TV, 1159 01:05:42,155 --> 01:05:46,290 and they gave them a bowl of Goldfish crackers to munch on while they were watching. 1160 01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:50,598 The kids that watched TV, while they showed also food commercials, 1161 01:05:50,642 --> 01:05:53,166 they ate 45% more Goldfish crackers... 1162 01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:56,648 compared to kids watching the same TV program with nonfood commercials. 1163 01:05:59,042 --> 01:06:01,914 [ Kessler ] I showed the data... 1164 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:05,657 on how our neural circuits and the neural circuits of our kids... 1165 01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:10,053 are getting sensitized to all these food cues... 1166 01:06:10,096 --> 01:06:13,447 to a group of leading diabetologists, 1167 01:06:13,491 --> 01:06:16,363 and their conclusion, when they saw that... 1168 01:06:16,407 --> 01:06:19,540 and they realized that these circuits get laid down for a lifetime, 1169 01:06:19,584 --> 01:06:21,673 is that we're toast as a country. 1170 01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:24,241 Hearings begin today on a proposed law... 1171 01:06:24,284 --> 01:06:26,286 that would ban giving away toys... 1172 01:06:26,330 --> 01:06:29,463 with meals high in calories, fat, sugar and salt. 1173 01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:33,554 [ Couric ] The trouble is, every time the government tries to regulate Big Food, 1174 01:06:33,598 --> 01:06:36,775 again and again the industry protects itself... 1175 01:06:36,818 --> 01:06:38,951 by sparking a larger public debate... 1176 01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:42,433 over the role of government in our lives. 1177 01:06:42,476 --> 01:06:44,087 The food police striking again. 1178 01:06:46,654 --> 01:06:49,701 They have a predictable script that they roll out every time these things come up. 1179 01:06:49,744 --> 01:06:52,182 This is the most ridiculous sort of nanny-statism. 1180 01:06:52,225 --> 01:06:54,227 - "Nanny state." - It isthe nanny state! 1181 01:06:54,271 --> 01:06:56,577 [ Woman ] These nanny-state people want to tell you what to eat. 1182 01:06:56,621 --> 01:06:58,101 "Government doesn't belong in our private lives." 1183 01:06:58,144 --> 01:07:00,407 Apparently now we need government food cops. 1184 01:07:00,451 --> 01:07:02,148 "You're discriminating against us." 1185 01:07:02,192 --> 01:07:04,368 To single out one food or beverage-- 1186 01:07:04,411 --> 01:07:06,935 The mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg, 1187 01:07:06,979 --> 01:07:11,375 wants to outlaw what he calls super-sized sodas and other sugary drinks. 1188 01:07:11,418 --> 01:07:14,204 "You don't need the police. Just look at all the good-guy things we're doing." 1189 01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:16,467 [ Woman ] You know what Ronald McDonald is also known for? 1190 01:07:16,510 --> 01:07:18,164 For 35 years he's been known for the Ronald McDonald Houses. 1191 01:07:18,208 --> 01:07:20,558 Exactly! 1192 01:07:20,601 --> 01:07:21,950 The script is so reliable now, 1193 01:07:21,994 --> 01:07:23,909 and the lobbying dollars... 1194 01:07:23,952 --> 01:07:27,695 that are aimed at legislators from the food industry are enormous, 1195 01:07:27,739 --> 01:07:30,089 and as a consequence they're pretty good at fighting things off. 1196 01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:32,700 Who should be making the decisions what to eat... 1197 01:07:32,744 --> 01:07:35,007 and school choice and everything else? 1198 01:07:35,051 --> 01:07:37,662 Should it be government, or should it be the parents? It should be the parents! 1199 01:07:41,274 --> 01:07:43,407 [ Slurping ] 1200 01:07:43,450 --> 01:07:45,800 The fact that parents have a role to play... 1201 01:07:45,844 --> 01:07:49,587 does not change the fact that targeting young children... 1202 01:07:49,630 --> 01:07:51,371 is simply immoral. 1203 01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:56,246 [ Simon ] I think we need to really get straight in this country... 1204 01:07:56,289 --> 01:07:58,378 the difference between parental responsibility... 1205 01:07:58,422 --> 01:08:01,599 and the corporation's role in exploiting... 1206 01:08:01,642 --> 01:08:03,427 the vulnerabilities of a young child. 1207 01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:14,699 [ Edgar ] He's been having many more problems now with his legs. 1208 01:08:14,742 --> 01:08:18,050 He's going through therapy, and he's still having a hard time with it. 1209 01:08:19,312 --> 01:08:21,184 So you've been having knee pain? Yeah. 1210 01:08:24,622 --> 01:08:28,278 [ Joe ] This bariatric program came to the hospital, 1211 01:08:28,321 --> 01:08:32,064 and my doctor considered me for surgery... 1212 01:08:32,108 --> 01:08:34,458 that'll change my life for the better. 1213 01:08:37,722 --> 01:08:40,812 I don't want it. I kinda need it. 1214 01:08:40,855 --> 01:08:45,164 I've gotten to a point in my weight where... 1215 01:08:45,208 --> 01:08:48,950 if I-- if I keep gaining weight like I am, 1216 01:08:48,994 --> 01:08:51,692 I'm gonna probably be dead by 20. 1217 01:08:51,736 --> 01:08:55,218 The surgery has complications. There's no question about it. 1218 01:08:55,261 --> 01:09:00,310 But as we've talked about, you always look at what the risk is of doing the surgery... 1219 01:09:00,353 --> 01:09:04,052 and compare it to what the risk is of notdoing the surgery. 1220 01:09:04,096 --> 01:09:06,925 And we've all agreed that the risk of not doing the surgery... 1221 01:09:06,968 --> 01:09:09,493 is that we're gonna decrease your life span, 1222 01:09:09,536 --> 01:09:13,149 increase your risk of diabetes and all of these complications. 1223 01:09:13,192 --> 01:09:16,761 And so we know that even though there's risk with the surgery, 1224 01:09:16,804 --> 01:09:19,242 there's a bigger risk of not doing it. Okay? 1225 01:09:22,375 --> 01:09:26,118 I've never heard of, you know, a 15-year-old having this surgery. 1226 01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:27,554 Um, you know-- 1227 01:09:30,514 --> 01:09:33,081 I guess I'm still kind of against it. 1228 01:09:34,126 --> 01:09:35,997 Thing could go wrong, and... 1229 01:09:36,041 --> 01:09:38,043 then I wouldn't have my Joe. 1230 01:09:38,086 --> 01:09:41,046 That wouldn't be right. I would feel that one. 1231 01:09:47,792 --> 01:09:50,490 [ Michael Bloomberg ] It's the people who are least able... 1232 01:09:50,534 --> 01:09:53,885 to know what's good for their health... 1233 01:09:53,928 --> 01:09:57,628 who are the ones that certain industries cater to... 1234 01:09:57,671 --> 01:10:01,371 and try to focus their advertising towards. 1235 01:10:01,414 --> 01:10:04,635 [ Family Speaking Spanish ] 1236 01:10:04,678 --> 01:10:07,768 [ Bloomberg ] We're selling these products to the people who are most vulnerable... 1237 01:10:07,812 --> 01:10:11,250 andthey're also the people that society has to provide health care for, 1238 01:10:11,294 --> 01:10:14,384 because they don't have the money to do it themselves. 1239 01:10:34,665 --> 01:10:37,711 [ Edgar ] I didn't even want to be at the hospital and see him going through that. 1240 01:10:37,755 --> 01:10:41,976 It sounds selfish, but, um-- 1241 01:10:48,026 --> 01:10:49,680 [ Voice Breaking ] It was hard. 1242 01:10:50,855 --> 01:10:53,292 But, uh, he-he's... 1243 01:10:53,336 --> 01:10:55,207 a tough little guy. 1244 01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:56,861 Yeah. 1245 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:11,528 [ Medical Staff Chattering ] 1246 01:11:13,834 --> 01:11:18,839 [ Ludwig ] There's probably a limited role for gastric bypass, or bariatric surgery... 1247 01:11:18,883 --> 01:11:21,015 in the most extreme circumstances, 1248 01:11:21,059 --> 01:11:24,018 to avoid life-threatening complications. 1249 01:11:24,062 --> 01:11:26,978 But what does it say about our society... 1250 01:11:27,021 --> 01:11:29,372 if we would rather send children... 1251 01:11:29,415 --> 01:11:33,071 to such mutilating procedures, 1252 01:11:33,114 --> 01:11:35,073 but yet lack the political will... 1253 01:11:35,116 --> 01:11:38,511 to properly fund school nutrition... 1254 01:11:38,555 --> 01:11:41,384 and ban junk food advertising to children? 1255 01:11:41,427 --> 01:11:44,996 It reflects a systematic political failure. 1256 01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,825 We're the richest society in the world. 1257 01:11:47,868 --> 01:11:52,656 We've failed because we've placed private profit and special interests... 1258 01:11:52,699 --> 01:11:54,875 ahead of public health. 1259 01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,358 [ Brady ] This is a vitality medical center. 1260 01:11:59,402 --> 01:12:01,273 Fixing to get our body scans. 1261 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:07,410 [ Chattering ] ♪♪ [ Singing ] 1262 01:12:07,453 --> 01:12:09,586 [ Chattering Continues ] 1263 01:12:09,629 --> 01:12:12,153 [ Brady ] It's hard for us teenagers to try to be healthy... 1264 01:12:12,197 --> 01:12:14,242 'cause you see all your friends... 1265 01:12:14,286 --> 01:12:16,593 eating fattening chili cheese fries and nachos... 1266 01:12:16,636 --> 01:12:19,204 and all this fattening fried chicken... 1267 01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:21,859 and all these fattening, greasy foods, 1268 01:12:21,902 --> 01:12:25,906 and they're skinny, and they look good. 1269 01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:29,606 My brother can eat all he wants and still be skinny, 1270 01:12:29,649 --> 01:12:32,739 and I look at him and say, "Well, he can do it. Why can't I?" 1271 01:12:32,783 --> 01:12:35,089 And that-- I hold on to that. 1272 01:12:37,483 --> 01:12:40,399 And that's how I-I don't lose weight. 1273 01:12:40,443 --> 01:12:43,054 Many people think that if you're thin, you're healthy, 1274 01:12:43,097 --> 01:12:45,056 but that's not necessarily true. 1275 01:12:45,099 --> 01:12:47,754 You can be fat on the inside and skinny on the outside, 1276 01:12:47,798 --> 01:12:50,583 or metabolically obese normal weight. 1277 01:12:50,627 --> 01:12:54,152 It's very dangerous, and it leads to all the same consequences as being fat, 1278 01:12:54,195 --> 01:12:57,764 such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer, dementia and diabetes. 1279 01:12:57,808 --> 01:13:01,942 [ Lustig ] Dr. Jimmy Bell, who is a neuroimager in London, England, 1280 01:13:01,986 --> 01:13:04,510 coined the term "Tofi"-- T-O-F-I. 1281 01:13:04,554 --> 01:13:07,383 Thin on the outside, fat on the inside. 1282 01:13:07,426 --> 01:13:11,561 Because when you slide somebody into an M.R.I. and you actually visualize the fat, 1283 01:13:11,604 --> 01:13:13,476 they might as well be obese. 1284 01:13:14,477 --> 01:13:16,566 There! X-ray! Yeah. 1285 01:13:16,609 --> 01:13:18,829 Nuke sign! 1286 01:13:18,872 --> 01:13:21,919 [ Couric ] Brady and his brothers went to the doctor for DEXA scans, 1287 01:13:21,962 --> 01:13:25,792 a type of X-ray that measures internal body fat. 1288 01:13:25,836 --> 01:13:28,360 The beauty of it is, you can see where the fat is. 1289 01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:30,754 Because a lot of fat is distributed in different places, 1290 01:13:30,797 --> 01:13:33,365 and the worst fat is the belly fat. 1291 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:36,368 Kids who are normal weight should be between 10 and 20% belly fat. 1292 01:13:37,848 --> 01:13:40,459 [ Couric ] Brady's results were by far the worst-- 1293 01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:43,375 47% of his body is fat, 1294 01:13:43,419 --> 01:13:47,684 most of it in his belly, which is 60% fat. 1295 01:13:47,727 --> 01:13:50,164 [ Hyman ] The belly fat is a dangerous, lethal fat. 1296 01:13:50,208 --> 01:13:52,297 And his insulin levels are high. 1297 01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:54,821 The insulin is the fat storage hormone. 1298 01:13:58,085 --> 01:14:01,262 [ Couric ] While his youngest brother, Nicholas, had normal results, 1299 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:03,700 10-year-old Chandler... 1300 01:14:03,743 --> 01:14:05,876 had 22% belly fat... 1301 01:14:07,312 --> 01:14:11,098 and the 19-year-old, Joseph, had 28%. 1302 01:14:13,274 --> 01:14:17,017 [ Hyman ] Almost all of these skinny-fat kids are prediabetic. 1303 01:14:17,061 --> 01:14:19,542 Even though the junk food doesn't make them fat, necessarily, 1304 01:14:19,585 --> 01:14:21,369 it makes them sick. 1305 01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:24,982 The question is, do you have it? You might, and you don't know. 1306 01:14:25,025 --> 01:14:26,897 Based on the statistics, 1307 01:14:28,638 --> 01:14:31,684 we know that 30% of America is obese. 1308 01:14:31,728 --> 01:14:33,817 Let's talk about the thin people. 1309 01:14:33,860 --> 01:14:37,777 Up to 40% of these people have the same metabolic dysfunction. 1310 01:14:37,821 --> 01:14:39,779 They're just not obese. 1311 01:14:39,823 --> 01:14:44,088 So when you do the math, that's more than half the U.S. population. 1312 01:14:44,131 --> 01:14:46,917 This is not just a problem of the obese. 1313 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,354 This is a problem of everybody. 1314 01:14:54,272 --> 01:14:56,361 [ Nestle ] There are so many industries... 1315 01:14:56,404 --> 01:15:00,147 that make profits off of people being unhealthy... 1316 01:15:00,191 --> 01:15:04,674 that it's in their interest to have people continue to be unhealthy. 1317 01:15:04,717 --> 01:15:09,896 And so that's why you don't see an enormous national effort... 1318 01:15:09,940 --> 01:15:12,769 to try to improve the quality of the American diet... 1319 01:15:12,812 --> 01:15:15,206 or people's food choices. 1320 01:15:15,249 --> 01:15:17,643 [ Interviewer ] Is that why you see health insurance companies... 1321 01:15:17,687 --> 01:15:19,645 buying stock in fast food companies? 1322 01:15:19,689 --> 01:15:22,692 That is exactly why you see... 1323 01:15:22,735 --> 01:15:26,260 health insurance companies buying stock in fast food companies. 1324 01:15:26,304 --> 01:15:29,089 They're just covering their bets. 1325 01:15:30,787 --> 01:15:33,746 [ Hyman ] Unless we address this as a society... 1326 01:15:33,790 --> 01:15:35,313 and stop blaming the fat person, 1327 01:15:35,356 --> 01:15:36,836 we're gonna be in big trouble. 1328 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,143 We're gonna have huge health consequences... 1329 01:15:39,186 --> 01:15:41,798 and huge economic consequences as well. 1330 01:15:43,974 --> 01:15:47,717 [ Couric ] We've been down this road before. 1331 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,198 This isn't the first time our children have been sold a bill of goods... 1332 01:15:51,242 --> 01:15:54,158 that leads to addiction and disease. 1333 01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:59,163 What's been the great public health success to date? 1334 01:15:59,206 --> 01:16:00,599 It's tobacco. 1335 01:16:01,774 --> 01:16:04,037 [ Woman ] ♪ Smooth and fresh 1336 01:16:04,081 --> 01:16:08,999 ♪ Is the Newport taste 1337 01:16:09,042 --> 01:16:11,175 [ Kessler ] We used to view the cigarette as our friend, 1338 01:16:11,218 --> 01:16:14,787 something that was sexy, that was glamorous, something that we wanted. 1339 01:16:14,831 --> 01:16:16,441 What did we do with tobacco? 1340 01:16:16,484 --> 01:16:18,878 We demonized the tobacco industry. 1341 01:16:18,922 --> 01:16:21,054 We changed how we perceived that product. 1342 01:16:22,316 --> 01:16:24,623 [ Couric ] We knew as early as 1950... 1343 01:16:24,667 --> 01:16:27,234 that there was a link between smoking and lung cancer. 1344 01:16:29,846 --> 01:16:32,762 Do you swear that the testimony you are about to give... 1345 01:16:32,805 --> 01:16:35,112 is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? 1346 01:16:35,155 --> 01:16:37,375 [ All ] I do. 1347 01:16:37,418 --> 01:16:40,770 [ Couric ] But Big Tobacco would deny the science for the next 50 years. 1348 01:16:40,813 --> 01:16:44,034 Cigarettes and nicotine clearly do not meet... 1349 01:16:44,077 --> 01:16:46,993 the classic definitions of addiction. 1350 01:16:47,037 --> 01:16:50,257 [ Brownell ] The public finally saw that they were doing deceptive and misleading things, 1351 01:16:50,301 --> 01:16:52,782 and so we took them on. 1352 01:16:52,825 --> 01:16:55,219 Government took them on. The media took them on. 1353 01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:58,614 It's been 30 years since the first report linked smoking and cancer. 1354 01:16:58,657 --> 01:17:01,834 There's disturbing news about teenagers and smoking. 1355 01:17:01,878 --> 01:17:04,315 [ Couric ] The U.S. was the first to require warning labels... 1356 01:17:04,358 --> 01:17:06,404 on every cigarette pack. 1357 01:17:06,447 --> 01:17:08,536 But we didn't stop there. 1358 01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:11,757 A number of decades ago there was something around called the Fairness Doctrine, 1359 01:17:11,801 --> 01:17:14,586 and for every tobacco ad that got run, 1360 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:18,416 the networks had to free up time for anti-tobacco advertisements. 1361 01:17:18,459 --> 01:17:21,245 Smoke now, pay later. 1362 01:17:21,288 --> 01:17:23,726 Whatever you do, just don't smoke. 1363 01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:25,858 [ Brownell ] The tobacco industry found... 1364 01:17:25,902 --> 01:17:28,339 it was getting battered by these advertisements and said... 1365 01:17:28,382 --> 01:17:31,864 we will voluntarily take our advertising off television. 1366 01:17:31,908 --> 01:17:33,910 [ TV: Announcer ] Come to where the flavor is. 1367 01:17:33,953 --> 01:17:36,695 [ Couric ] It wasn't long before smoking ads were removed... 1368 01:17:36,739 --> 01:17:38,741 from almost all public spaces. 1369 01:17:38,784 --> 01:17:40,699 And with greater public awareness, 1370 01:17:40,743 --> 01:17:43,876 smoking was banned from all airlines. 1371 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,445 And as early as 1975, 1372 01:17:47,488 --> 01:17:51,841 individual states began regulating smoking in public places... 1373 01:17:51,884 --> 01:17:54,844 and taxing packs of cigarettes. 1374 01:17:54,887 --> 01:17:59,065 After we banned it, all of Western Europe went smoke-free. 1375 01:17:59,109 --> 01:18:02,155 You would tell me in a million years the Irish, the Italians, 1376 01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:04,505 the Spanish, the English, the French-- 1377 01:18:04,549 --> 01:18:07,291 they don't smoke indoors anymore. 1378 01:18:07,334 --> 01:18:10,120 [ Kessler ] Today we view the cigarette for what it is-- 1379 01:18:10,163 --> 01:18:13,036 a deadly, disgusting, addictive product. 1380 01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:17,301 [ Couric ] As a result of this critical change in perception, 1381 01:18:17,344 --> 01:18:22,045 the number of American high schoolers who smoke has been cut in half... 1382 01:18:22,088 --> 01:18:24,482 in just the last 20 years. 1383 01:18:26,223 --> 01:18:29,443 Where would we be if we hadn't acted? 1384 01:18:29,487 --> 01:18:33,752 [ Announcer ] The Flintstones has been brought to you by Winston, 1385 01:18:33,796 --> 01:18:36,929 America's best-selling, best-tasting filter cigarette. 1386 01:18:36,973 --> 01:18:40,063 ♪ Winston tastes good like a ♪ 1387 01:18:40,106 --> 01:18:42,456 ♪ Cigarette should 1388 01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:45,764 Junk food companies are acting very much like tobacco companies did... 1389 01:18:45,808 --> 01:18:48,636 30 and 40 years ago. 1390 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,944 I need your Fruity Pebbles! Really fruity! [ Roars ] 1391 01:18:51,988 --> 01:18:54,686 Post Fruity Pebbles cereal, part of this complete breakfast! 1392 01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:56,775 Years from now we're gonna say, 1393 01:18:56,819 --> 01:18:59,430 I can't believe we let them get away with that. 1394 01:18:59,473 --> 01:19:03,260 There is no evidence that the consumption of soft drinks in secondary schools... 1395 01:19:03,303 --> 01:19:05,828 is inconsistent with sound nutrition science. 1396 01:19:09,222 --> 01:19:13,966 The argument you're making is to advance the sales of your soft drinks... 1397 01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:17,883 with the hopes that these students will get used to them enough-- 1398 01:19:17,927 --> 01:19:20,407 I hesitate to use the word "hooked on 'em" enough-- 1399 01:19:20,451 --> 01:19:24,194 I'm suggesting, Senator, that in a well-balanced diet... 1400 01:19:24,237 --> 01:19:26,631 we all need to consume two liters of liquid. 1401 01:19:26,674 --> 01:19:30,200 Soft drinks can certainly supply part of that liquid intake, 1402 01:19:30,243 --> 01:19:34,421 and I would reject entirely any argument that they are in any way harmful for you. 1403 01:19:37,381 --> 01:19:40,863 Sometimes I just wanna say, Don't you have any shame at all? 1404 01:19:40,906 --> 01:19:43,953 Isn't there something inside of you that says, 1405 01:19:43,996 --> 01:19:46,520 "You know, what we're doing is not right"? 1406 01:19:46,564 --> 01:19:49,828 They haveto know, just like the tobacco companies. 1407 01:19:49,872 --> 01:19:52,875 How could these people sleep at night for years, 1408 01:19:52,918 --> 01:19:57,575 knowing they were lying through their teeth about tobacco and cancer, 1409 01:19:57,618 --> 01:20:01,709 and yet they just kept pushing those tobacco products out there. 1410 01:20:01,753 --> 01:20:05,365 It's the same way with big food companies. 1411 01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:12,459 I just-- I don't know how-- I-I don't know how they can live with themselves. 1412 01:20:17,073 --> 01:20:19,858 [ Bittman ] Soda is the cigarettes of the 21st century, 1413 01:20:19,902 --> 01:20:22,382 and the sooner we get that clear, 1414 01:20:22,426 --> 01:20:25,646 the sooner we get rid of these idiotic arguments about... 1415 01:20:25,690 --> 01:20:27,779 free speech allows us to sell things that are poisonous. 1416 01:20:31,261 --> 01:20:33,306 [ Man ] The obesity epidemic, 1417 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:37,441 the diseases that fast food places-- hamburgers, soda pop, whatever-- cause-- 1418 01:20:39,225 --> 01:20:41,271 We've had this information for decades... 1419 01:20:41,314 --> 01:20:44,665 and we've failed to act on it until now it's catastrophic. 1420 01:20:45,971 --> 01:20:48,321 I'm trying-- I'm trying to save my life... 1421 01:20:48,365 --> 01:20:53,196 and protect myself from dying of heart attack, seizures, 1422 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:56,112 anything-- diabetes, anything. 1423 01:20:57,461 --> 01:20:59,419 I just want y'all to realize... 1424 01:20:59,463 --> 01:21:01,944 that y'all killin' yourselves. 1425 01:21:01,987 --> 01:21:03,989 'Cause I've already realized it. 1426 01:21:04,033 --> 01:21:06,818 I'm just making sure y'all do, you guys do. 1427 01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:08,646 [ Couric ] At our current rate, 1428 01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:12,998 over 95% of all Americans will be overweight or obese... 1429 01:21:13,042 --> 01:21:14,913 in two decades. 1430 01:21:14,957 --> 01:21:16,872 By 2050, 1431 01:21:16,915 --> 01:21:20,745 one out of every three Americans will have diabetes. 1432 01:21:20,788 --> 01:21:24,140 [ Chattering, Laughing ] 1433 01:21:24,183 --> 01:21:27,273 [ Carmona ] As we look to the work force of the future, 1434 01:21:27,317 --> 01:21:30,189 where will the soldiers and sailors and first-responders-- cops, firemen-- 1435 01:21:30,233 --> 01:21:33,018 Where will they come from when we have a generation of children... 1436 01:21:33,062 --> 01:21:36,282 that will be physically unfit and saddled with a lot of disease that's all preventable? 1437 01:21:39,242 --> 01:21:43,159 [ Lustig ] The financial aspects of this are staggering. 1438 01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:47,946 75% of our health care dollar goes to the maintenance or treatment... 1439 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:50,514 of chronic metabolic disease. 1440 01:21:50,557 --> 01:21:53,169 [ Karp ] If you think the national debt is a problem right now, 1441 01:21:53,212 --> 01:21:55,649 wait till you see the tsunami of debt that's coming... 1442 01:21:55,693 --> 01:21:58,914 from the health care impact of obesity. 1443 01:22:00,132 --> 01:22:02,221 It's going to be an enormous burden... 1444 01:22:02,265 --> 01:22:05,094 that we are going to be placing on the shoulders of our children. 1445 01:22:05,137 --> 01:22:06,965 I want people to know... 1446 01:22:07,009 --> 01:22:09,054 that childhood obesity... 1447 01:22:09,098 --> 01:22:11,752 isn't as simple as TV... 1448 01:22:11,796 --> 01:22:15,495 and the press make it seem. 1449 01:22:15,539 --> 01:22:18,020 And even Mrs. Obama. 1450 01:22:18,063 --> 01:22:21,849 It's like, no matter how hard you try, 1451 01:22:21,893 --> 01:22:24,548 it's always going to be an ongoing battle. 1452 01:22:26,985 --> 01:22:30,467 [ Taubes ] When Michelle Obama launched her "Let's Move" campaign, 1453 01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:33,731 she said this isn't about demonizing any food industry, 1454 01:22:33,774 --> 01:22:35,994 which is a very politically sensible thing to do. 1455 01:22:36,038 --> 01:22:38,257 The problem is, if you want to cure obesity, 1456 01:22:38,301 --> 01:22:40,825 you have to demonize some food industries. 1457 01:22:40,868 --> 01:22:42,783 Let's move! Let's move! Let's move! 1458 01:22:42,827 --> 01:22:46,135 [ Brownell ] I think Michelle Obama has been a wonderful force... 1459 01:22:46,178 --> 01:22:49,181 in the nation's attempt to address childhood obesity. 1460 01:22:49,225 --> 01:22:53,620 Um, but my guess is that she and other people in the administration... 1461 01:22:53,664 --> 01:22:57,015 have to be aware of the lobbying might of the food industry... 1462 01:22:57,059 --> 01:23:00,410 and have to go easier on them than they may want to. 1463 01:23:00,453 --> 01:23:04,588 I hope with time, because of the public support for these initiatives, 1464 01:23:04,631 --> 01:23:07,721 that the politicians will have the courage to take on the industry... 1465 01:23:07,765 --> 01:23:09,549 the way it really needs to happen. 1466 01:23:16,382 --> 01:23:18,036 [ Bittman ] There are other countries now... 1467 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,691 who have prohibited junk food marketing to kids, 1468 01:23:20,734 --> 01:23:23,041 stopped serving junk food in schools, 1469 01:23:23,085 --> 01:23:25,043 started taxing soda. 1470 01:23:25,087 --> 01:23:28,090 These are things that I'd like to see us leading the way on. 1471 01:23:28,133 --> 01:23:30,396 Instead, we're leading the way on producing the world's deadliest diet... 1472 01:23:30,440 --> 01:23:33,051 and basically exporting it to other countries. 1473 01:23:33,095 --> 01:23:36,837 [ Harkin ] I think the thing that has frustrated me more than anything else... 1474 01:23:36,881 --> 01:23:41,842 in my now almost 30-year campaign against obesity... 1475 01:23:41,886 --> 01:23:44,497 and trying to get healthful lifestyles-- 1476 01:23:44,541 --> 01:23:50,068 The most frustrating thing is just the way the deck is just stacked... 1477 01:23:50,112 --> 01:23:52,070 against being healthy. 1478 01:23:55,813 --> 01:23:58,859 [ Wootan ] Right now healthy eating is like swimming upstream. 1479 01:23:58,903 --> 01:24:03,777 If you want to eat better, you have to work so hard against the food environment, 1480 01:24:03,821 --> 01:24:06,519 which is always pushing you to eat more. 1481 01:24:06,563 --> 01:24:09,479 I think the attitude that someone else is gonna change it... 1482 01:24:09,522 --> 01:24:11,089 is the wrong attitude. 1483 01:24:11,133 --> 01:24:13,744 If we want better conditions, 1484 01:24:13,787 --> 01:24:18,140 each of us has to do something to make that happen. 1485 01:24:18,183 --> 01:24:22,405 [ Wootan ] We need to come together as a society to protect our children, 1486 01:24:22,448 --> 01:24:26,409 just like we have with seat belt laws and car seat laws. 1487 01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:29,499 We're not gonna tell anybody what they're gonna feed their kids. 1488 01:24:29,542 --> 01:24:33,068 We're just gonna try to make it easier for parents... 1489 01:24:33,111 --> 01:24:35,113 to do what they already want to do, 1490 01:24:35,157 --> 01:24:38,116 which is feed their child more healthfully. 1491 01:24:44,122 --> 01:24:47,386 [ Couric ] Some people are already trying to change the environment... 1492 01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:50,607 and improve the conditions for our children. 1493 01:24:50,650 --> 01:24:54,089 There are even some kids who are taking on their own schools... 1494 01:24:54,132 --> 01:24:57,353 in order to remove sugar-sweetened beverages from the cafeteria. 1495 01:24:59,442 --> 01:25:02,227 There are also revolutionary food fighters... 1496 01:25:02,271 --> 01:25:04,969 who are not waiting on government action. 1497 01:25:05,012 --> 01:25:08,886 [ Jamie Oliver ] I want to tell you about what is in some of these products. 1498 01:25:08,929 --> 01:25:11,845 - Okay, everyone-- - Four scoops of sugar. 1499 01:25:11,889 --> 01:25:14,631 [ Couric ] They're educating kids on the toxic effects of sugar. 1500 01:25:14,674 --> 01:25:16,589 They are all the same. 1501 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,506 Reimagining how you can feed kids... 1502 01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:22,160 real food on a budget. 1503 01:25:22,204 --> 01:25:24,597 By serving the local fresh beans, 1504 01:25:24,641 --> 01:25:26,773 we're saving about $4,000 a year. 1505 01:25:26,817 --> 01:25:29,211 Our business model is to go into underserved areas, 1506 01:25:29,254 --> 01:25:32,170 into food deserts and try to make them food oases... 1507 01:25:32,214 --> 01:25:37,393 and make sure we bring access to fresh, affordable healthy food. 1508 01:25:37,436 --> 01:25:40,874 [ Couric ] Many of these places have seen modest decreases... 1509 01:25:40,918 --> 01:25:43,181 in their childhood obesity rates. 1510 01:25:43,225 --> 01:25:45,227 [ Harkin ] So we've made some progress. 1511 01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:48,839 It's not as much as we'd like, it's not as much as we need, 1512 01:25:48,882 --> 01:25:50,971 but therein lies some hope. 1513 01:25:54,453 --> 01:25:57,326 [ Brownell ] This is supposed to be the first generation of American children... 1514 01:25:57,369 --> 01:26:00,459 expected to lead shorter lives than their parents did. 1515 01:26:00,503 --> 01:26:03,854 So we have to ask ourselves, what legacy are we leaving our children? 1516 01:26:03,897 --> 01:26:08,380 What kind of conditions are we exposing them to that would make this come true? 1517 01:26:08,424 --> 01:26:13,168 It's a call to action to do something pretty courageous against this problem. 1518 01:26:15,518 --> 01:26:17,824 [ Couric ] What if every can of soda... 1519 01:26:17,868 --> 01:26:21,915 came with a warning label from the surgeon general? 1520 01:26:21,959 --> 01:26:25,180 What if fast food chains were banned from all public schools? 1521 01:26:26,877 --> 01:26:29,793 What if every time you looked at a nutrition label... 1522 01:26:29,836 --> 01:26:32,839 you'd actually see the percentage next to sugar, 1523 01:26:34,711 --> 01:26:38,976 What if every time a celebrity sold a soft drink, 1524 01:26:39,019 --> 01:26:42,458 they also had to pitch a vegetable? 1525 01:26:42,501 --> 01:26:45,678 How would academics improve? 1526 01:26:45,722 --> 01:26:48,290 How much more productive would we become? 1527 01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:52,337 How much money and how many lives could we save? 1528 01:26:55,122 --> 01:26:57,560 [ Clinton ] I think the government has a leading role to play here. 1529 01:26:57,603 --> 01:27:00,084 We just got a long way to go. 1530 01:27:00,127 --> 01:27:02,826 Now, you can wait around for the ideal day... 1531 01:27:02,869 --> 01:27:05,002 when government regulation will be perfect. 1532 01:27:06,612 --> 01:27:10,399 Meanwhile, you gotta keep working the food industry... 1533 01:27:10,442 --> 01:27:13,445 to get them to change. 1534 01:27:13,489 --> 01:27:17,319 But you have to change the diet of America. That's the most important thing. 1535 01:27:17,362 --> 01:27:20,191 The exercise is important. 1536 01:27:20,235 --> 01:27:22,193 All these things are important. 1537 01:27:22,237 --> 01:27:25,501 But we've gotta change the way we produce and consume food. 1538 01:27:32,769 --> 01:27:36,642 [ Tinna ] My mom always said people make time for what they want to. 1539 01:27:38,949 --> 01:27:41,691 It's a matter of priority, you know. 1540 01:27:41,734 --> 01:27:46,261 Being willing to put forth the effort and the time that it takes to change. 1541 01:27:46,304 --> 01:27:51,483 The kids' health, my health, my husband's health... 1542 01:27:51,527 --> 01:27:55,618 definitely more important than any chocolate I have in the cabinet, 1543 01:27:55,661 --> 01:27:57,881 more than any piece of cake. 1544 01:27:57,924 --> 01:28:01,928 And even as much as I want to take the chocolate and hide it, 1545 01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:05,018 it still has made me think. 1546 01:28:05,062 --> 01:28:06,977 I've gotta choose. 1547 01:28:07,020 --> 01:28:09,632 I've gotta choose between... 1548 01:28:09,675 --> 01:28:11,503 helping Brady... 1549 01:28:11,547 --> 01:28:12,983 or-- 1550 01:28:13,026 --> 01:28:14,593 or getting rid of the chocolate. 1551 01:28:16,203 --> 01:28:18,728 I know what's more important in here. 1552 01:28:18,771 --> 01:28:21,208 It's just hard. 1553 01:28:21,252 --> 01:28:23,776 But it's a matter of priority, 1554 01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:25,909 and I really want to change. 1555 01:28:33,786 --> 01:28:36,659 Ohh! What? 1556 01:28:36,702 --> 01:28:40,532 [ Tinna ] This is our new recipe we're fixin' to taste. 1557 01:28:49,759 --> 01:28:53,937 I am excited. I can't believe how different I feel. 1558 01:28:53,980 --> 01:28:57,636 And I'm so happy that, um, 1559 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,899 a light switch just came on. 1560 01:28:59,943 --> 01:29:04,382 It's not an easy transition to real food, but it starts locally. 1561 01:29:04,426 --> 01:29:07,429 It starts, really, as local as our fork. 1562 01:29:07,472 --> 01:29:11,824 And everybody has a choice three times a day what they put on that thing. 1563 01:29:15,219 --> 01:29:17,395 The most important thing you can do-- 1564 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,051 and it's challenging for many people-- is cook real food. 1565 01:29:21,094 --> 01:29:24,010 You can forget about nutrients. You don't have to worry about sugars. 1566 01:29:24,054 --> 01:29:25,969 If you cook real food, 1567 01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:27,666 your family will be eating much better. 1568 01:29:29,407 --> 01:29:32,410 [ Ludwig ] Does it look like it comes from nature? 1569 01:29:32,454 --> 01:29:35,631 Or is it a product with a long list of artificial ingredients? 1570 01:29:35,674 --> 01:29:38,460 That's a distinction between real and fake foods... 1571 01:29:38,503 --> 01:29:40,375 that even a five-year-old can get. 1572 01:29:41,593 --> 01:29:43,160 [ Tinna ] Lot of sugar, huh? 1573 01:29:44,335 --> 01:29:46,511 Third ingredient. 1574 01:29:46,555 --> 01:29:48,861 That's not real. 1575 01:29:48,905 --> 01:29:51,124 [ Brady ] I thought I knew the way it was supposed to be, 1576 01:29:51,168 --> 01:29:55,259 but in truth I had no idea what the truth was. 1577 01:29:55,302 --> 01:29:57,957 And I think so many kids in America... 1578 01:29:58,001 --> 01:30:01,874 don't even know what it really means to eat healthy. 1579 01:30:01,918 --> 01:30:03,920 [ Tinna ] Nicholas, you are eating asparagus! 1580 01:30:03,963 --> 01:30:06,401 I'm so proud of you! 1581 01:30:06,444 --> 01:30:08,925 [ Brady ] This is the way we're supposed to eat all the time. 1582 01:30:08,968 --> 01:30:11,362 Not just for a diet or detox. 1583 01:30:11,406 --> 01:30:14,147 We're supposed to eat like this for the rest of our life. 1584 01:30:14,191 --> 01:30:16,411 And that's what I want it to be. 1585 01:30:16,454 --> 01:30:19,326 [ Tinna ] John is eating his sweet potatoes. 1586 01:30:35,778 --> 01:30:38,998 [ Couric ] It started out as such a small story... 1587 01:30:39,042 --> 01:30:41,261 about weight, diet and exercise. 1588 01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:45,135 For the majority of kids, 1589 01:30:45,178 --> 01:30:47,572 there is no happy ending. 1590 01:30:49,705 --> 01:30:53,665 It's time for a new story about the food we eat... 1591 01:30:53,709 --> 01:30:56,668 and the environment we want for our children. 1592 01:30:58,888 --> 01:31:02,326 [ Kessler ] This has to be about the food, not the weight. 1593 01:31:02,369 --> 01:31:04,502 I mean, why don't diets work? 1594 01:31:04,546 --> 01:31:09,072 Sure, for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days I can deprive myself. 1595 01:31:09,115 --> 01:31:12,467 I can lose the weight. 1596 01:31:12,510 --> 01:31:14,947 But then I go back in the environment, I get cued again, 1597 01:31:14,991 --> 01:31:17,297 my brain gets hijacked. 1598 01:31:19,169 --> 01:31:23,390 So of course I'm going to gain the weight back. 1599 01:31:23,434 --> 01:31:27,612 Unless we dramatically change the environment, take away all these cues, 1600 01:31:27,656 --> 01:31:30,049 we're never gonna be able to protect our kids. 1601 01:31:58,208 --> 01:32:02,821 ♪♪ [ Guitar: Pop ] 1602 01:32:02,865 --> 01:32:05,563 [ Man ] ♪ How long have you waited 1603 01:32:05,607 --> 01:32:08,740 ♪ For someone to come to your rescue? ♪ 1604 01:32:09,915 --> 01:32:13,049 ♪ Called up and calculated ♪ 1605 01:32:13,092 --> 01:32:15,530 ♪ Some kind of hope to hang on to ♪ 1606 01:32:16,661 --> 01:32:21,666 ♪ Will the wait be over soon? 1607 01:32:26,715 --> 01:32:30,283 ♪ Feelin' so fascinated 1608 01:32:30,327 --> 01:32:33,765 ♪ Set on a course to continue ♪ 1609 01:32:33,809 --> 01:32:37,203 ♪ Discussed and demonstrated 1610 01:32:37,247 --> 01:32:39,554 ♪ With all the sight to see right through ♪ 1611 01:32:40,685 --> 01:32:44,123 ♪ Another world created 1612 01:32:44,167 --> 01:32:48,998 ♪ Another life belongs to you 1613 01:32:54,177 --> 01:32:57,267 ♪ When you're surrounded by 1614 01:32:57,310 --> 01:32:59,008 ♪ Something strange 1615 01:32:59,051 --> 01:33:01,793 ♪ And so brand-new 1616 01:33:01,837 --> 01:33:04,622 ♪ It's not complicated 1617 01:33:04,666 --> 01:33:07,843 ♪ It's just another point of view ♪ 1618 01:33:07,886 --> 01:33:11,586 ♪ So now let's celebrate it 1619 01:33:11,629 --> 01:33:16,808 ♪ A change is so long overdue ♪ 1620 01:33:16,852 --> 01:33:22,074 ♪ And we should be home by now ♪ 1621 01:33:23,467 --> 01:33:26,688 ♪ And we should be home 1622 01:33:26,731 --> 01:33:28,864 ♪ By now 1623 01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:37,394 ♪ I know we'd find a way ♪ 1624 01:33:38,613 --> 01:33:43,879 ♪ Forever starts today 1625 01:33:55,412 --> 01:34:00,504 ♪ We should be home by now 1626 01:34:02,027 --> 01:34:07,467 ♪ We should be home by now 1627 01:34:09,382 --> 01:34:14,692 ♪ We should be home by now 1628 01:34:14,736 --> 01:34:16,912 ♪ If time permitted 1629 01:34:18,087 --> 01:34:23,614 ♪ I know we'd find a way 1630 01:34:25,050 --> 01:34:30,186 ♪ Forever starts today 1631 01:34:51,511 --> 01:34:53,688 ♪ If time permitted 1632 01:34:54,776 --> 01:35:00,259 ♪ I know we'd find a way 1633 01:35:01,783 --> 01:35:07,005 ♪ Forever starts today 1634 01:35:08,572 --> 01:35:13,359 ♪ Forever starts today 1635 01:35:15,361 --> 01:35:19,670 ♪ Forever starts today 1636 01:35:22,412 --> 01:35:26,721 ♪ Forever starts today ♪ 1637 01:35:36,469 --> 01:35:39,342 ♪♪ [ Ends ] 141987

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