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I don't know. I just
like coming-of-age stories.
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There's something about them.
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Not...
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...hero versus villain.
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Maybe it's the trans
part of me that feels like
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life is a coming-of-age story.
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I'm not the person
that people think I am.
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I just know that.
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Hold on.
I've got to take this call.
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I've got to take this call.
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Hello.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Yes, it is.
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I do.
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Oh, my God.
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- Oh, my God!
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What did he commute it to?
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Oh.
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Oh, I can't tell you...
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I can't tell you how happy I am.
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Thank you so much. How do I...
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He's gonna announce it
in a couple of minutes?
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And how do we tell her?
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Vince!
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I'm sorry to interrupt you.
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I just got a call
from the President's counsel.
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It's commuted plus 120 days.
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- Are you serious?
- Yeah, the...
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Let's do it out here.
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The President's counsel
just called me.
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He's gonna announce it
in a couple of minutes.
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I'm pretty speechless.
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I'm gonna start crying.
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Holy shit!
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Fucking shit.
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It's just...
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I just... I just...
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I can't even fucking...
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It's crazy.
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Jesus fucking Christ.
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First of all...let's be clear,
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Chelsea Manning has served
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a tough prison sentence.
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The sentence that she received
was disproportionate
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relative to what other leakers
had received.
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She took responsibility
for her crime.
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It made sense to commute,
and not pardon, her sentence.
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- Nancy just got the order...
- I just got it.
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...with the Barack Obama
signature.
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- Oh, my God!
- So that is in possession.
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Oh, God.
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- This is a lot to process.
- Yeah, it is.
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- These types of huge changes.
- Yeah, yeah.
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So...
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You know, we're here, Chelsea.
We're thrilled for you.
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But it doesn't mean
it's all just simple.
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- An inmate
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at a military
correctional complex...
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- ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
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This call is from
a correction facility
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and is subject to monitoring
and recording.
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This is a prepaid call from...
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- Manning.
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Hey. So, you're on today's
New York Times.
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And your story is
upper right-hand corner, baby.
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Yay!
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He had to be a human being
for this to work.
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We didn't know
if he was or not, right?
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I didn't know.
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Yeah?
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I got the Elle magazine.
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Hold on.
I'm running off to get it.
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Where did that thing go?
Oh, here it is.
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I got the Elle.
They didn't have Marie Claire.
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But it's gonna
come in tomorrow.
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Yes. And bow...
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And a bow.
Bows on the shoulders.
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Yes?
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Six women.
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- Far left. A little suit.
- Yeah.
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Yeah. That's cute.
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- Vincent?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Commander, sir. I'm gonna be
there to make sure she's safe.
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- That's great.
- You know, we did her clemency.
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We're her clemency lawyers.
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We're gonna make sure
this clemency happens.
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She's really worried
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that she's gonna
do something stupid.
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What does that mean?
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Well,
what she kept saying was,
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"I might run away. You guys
should be aware of that."
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And I said, "You're not...
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Once you're with us,
you won't be able to run away."
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I don't think people realize
how traumatic
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getting out of jail is.
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Imagine going from
being in the military
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- to being incarcerated.
- I know.
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Because people who are
in the military and get out
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- have difficulty transitioning.
- That's right.
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She needs to go figure out
her life.
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Having been in the military,
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I can't imagine
making a decision like that.
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I just can't.
No chance I would've done that.
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It takes a rare
historical person
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who is willing to sacrifice
personal freedom
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and all the privileges of life,
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doing what he or she thinks
is the right thing to do.
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You have to have a little bit
of a sense of self-importance
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about yourself...
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...a bit of ignorance...
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...a little bit of
a sense of optimism.
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Mostly, they're just people
who, deep down,
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feel as though
there's some problem
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or something's really wrong.
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Yeah.
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I'm particularly bitter
that a Commander in Chief,
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in a time of war,
would pardon a traitor.
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Republican
House Speaker Paul Ryan
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released a statement saying,
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"Chelsea Manning's treachery
put American lives at risk."
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This young man
or woman, or whatever,
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should have been hung.
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I don't think it's right.
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She should serve her time.
35 years.
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100 years ago,
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they'd have just taken him out
and shot him.
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The debate about
how much harm was caused,
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or wasn't,
by her actions, is ongoing.
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National security officials
will tell you
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Manning gravely harmed
national security.
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So far as
actually killing someone,
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there's absolutely no credible
allegation of that happening.
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And another factor,
as you alluded to,
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seems to be the stress for
Manning's gender transition.
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Chelsea Manning
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attempted to commit suicide
twice last year.
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Is it clear that
the gender transition concern
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was part of this, that she'd
been going through...?
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It seems to be.
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♪ tone of music brightening ♪
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- Another day.
- Hey.
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Another day in the woods.
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God,
it's such a beautiful sight.
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I wasn't handling it
very well initially.
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- You...
- Aargh.
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We were in an actually
incredibly stressful situation
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where I thought
I was gonna vomit.
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- Um, so...
- You wanted to vomit, too?
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Yeah. I really did.
I was, like, "Oh,
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I'm gonna be super embarrassed
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if I throw up in front of
these security guys."
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- We're still trying to adjust.
- Yeah.
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To find a soft landing.
So, I think, today,
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just kind of...
vegging out a little bit
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and, like, you know,
like, learning.
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Learning how to...
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I mean, for me,
learning how to...
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Yeah.
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...be again.
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Yeah, fuck,
I mean, you're, like...
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- Fuck.
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- It's still sort of amazing.
- Yeah.
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And unimaginable,
like, this is...
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...this is where you are
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on May 17, 2017.
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- Yeah.
- And not 2045.
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- How the fuck did I get here?
- Yeah.
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You ever find yourself
asking yourself that?
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- Yeah. Yeah, I do.
- "How did I get here?"
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Yeah.
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It just feels so natural
for me to do whatever I want...
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- Yeah. Yeah.
- ...in nature.
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You get past this idea
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of, like,
"Oh, a miracle might happen."
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I mean, I was in prison
for the rest of my life.
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There was a lot of
people that...
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didn't think
it was worth the effort,
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didn't think Obama
would consider it,
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it was never gonna happen.
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It was a shot in the dark.
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I am not a make-up artist,
by any means.
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I had to learn in prison,
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making shit up
as I went along.
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I'm sure there's a bazillion
tutorials on YouTube.
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There's a disproportionate
number
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of trans women in the military.
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You know? Like something...
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Something about, like,
our twenties,
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and I was, like, running away
from, you know...
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...this... this weird problem
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that, like, we're cross-dressing
and stuff.
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Like, I was trying to,
like, man up and...
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I... I think
I'm not alone in that.
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There's a lot of
social pressure,
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especially for people
in, like, the South
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and people in the Southwest,
and the West.
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Um...
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Yeah, I think there's
a pressure to...conform,
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and what better
conformity environment
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than the military?
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So...
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I saw it as kind of like
going cold turkey from, like...
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a drug addiction or something,
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or, like, trying to quit
cigarettes or something.
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But, obviously, you can't stop
being who you are.
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So, that was always...
never gonna happen.
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And this is a fantastic
shade of lipstick.
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I could hear the river from...
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prison, on a non-windy day.
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Because there was
the Missouri River...
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...right outside the uh...
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right outside
the prison itself.
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Through the tree...
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If you go beyond
the treeline of the prison,
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there's the river...um...
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And...so, but...
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I haven't heard
a stream like this.
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This is just... It's nice.
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It's nice to have a stream.
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It's nice to have leaves,
you know?
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What story?
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Uh... That's a good question.
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♪ brooding instrumental music ♪
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I grew up in a small
town: Crescent, Oklahoma.
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I had a...complicated
relationship with my father.
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You know, like, he would
just...
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take his anger out,
from being...
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...angry at work, and just...
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My mother,
she would drink pretty heavily.
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My father drank very heavily.
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And they finally split up
when I was 13.
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My father had a new wife.
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She didn't like the fact
that I even existed.
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She saw that, you know,
I was dating boys and...
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...eventually she had me
removed from the house...
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...and I was homeless.
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All Americans know that
the stakes in Iraq are enormous.
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On television every night,
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you'd see images
of the Iraq surge.
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It was chaos.
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I am saying we must
significantly increase...
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That realization
that I was on thin ice
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and that I didn't know
who I was,
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and that I needed meaning.
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I understand the consequence
of committing people into war.
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So, I enlisted in the Army.
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I did it kind of on a whim.
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They needed people,
I signed the paperwork.
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And a few days later,
I was in basic training.
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Oh, shit!
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Where the fuck
did you come from?
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Shit.
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00:21:22,792 --> 00:21:24,000
Yep.
259
00:21:26,834 --> 00:21:28,333
What's up?
260
00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:39,542
Lisa just says, "Great photo."
261
00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,000
You know,
I'm just making sure...
262
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,750
Disconcerting amount
of boobage there.
263
00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:50,542
Like, my eye is drawn to it,
so I'm just, like...
264
00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:53,250
...super aware of the fact
265
00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:55,542
that dresses expose
a lot more skin
266
00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,417
and it's uh...
267
00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,166
I don't know if my body
movements are trained yet
268
00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,041
for this kind of thing.
269
00:22:06,041 --> 00:22:08,500
You're moving around a lot
and you're not used to it.
270
00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:11,166
There's always the possibility
of, "Oop, there you go."
271
00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:12,583
The whole world could see.
272
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,542
And I had that in prison, too.
273
00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:19,375
You know, I was definitely
scrutinized by...
274
00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,792
prison staff, you know...
275
00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:25,208
inmates, visitors, you know?
276
00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:28,625
Because even though I wore
a loose-fitting uniform,
277
00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:31,208
you could tell...
you know, they could tell.
278
00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:33,667
And they...
I could sense the judgment.
279
00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,041
Guards would walk in
on me sometimes
280
00:22:36,041 --> 00:22:39,458
while I'm doing... You know,
while I was changing my shirt
281
00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:43,375
or, like, taking my bra off
or putting it on, or whatever.
282
00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:46,375
So, you know, stuff happened
and people would go...
283
00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:50,417
And then there are
strip searches, so...
284
00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:53,542
Their reactions
could sometimes be...
285
00:22:54,125 --> 00:22:56,041
...you know...
286
00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:58,750
...complicated.
287
00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,417
Human.
288
00:23:13,834 --> 00:23:17,417
I remember it was
a really hot and muggy day.
289
00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:25,041
The lawyers advised
against coming out
290
00:23:25,041 --> 00:23:26,875
in the middle of
a court martial.
291
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,542
They thought it would be
misinterpreted
292
00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,250
as some kind of stunt
or something.
293
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:39,125
But I came to the conclusion
that I needed to just
294
00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,792
come out publicly.
295
00:23:48,125 --> 00:23:51,041
As I transition into
this next phase of my life,
296
00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:53,291
I want everyone
to know the real me.
297
00:23:53,291 --> 00:23:55,375
I am Chelsea Manning.
I am a female.
298
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,583
I'm confused, Bill.
299
00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,875
I don't care if you call him
a he or a she.
300
00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:03,458
He's a traitor.
She's a traitor.
301
00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:06,709
You had these rumors.
302
00:24:06,709 --> 00:24:10,166
"What does it mean
that Manning is really a woman
303
00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:11,709
or is claiming to be a woman?"
304
00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:14,959
"Did she leak the documents
because she's transgender?"
305
00:25:14,709 --> 00:25:17,208
This is late January, 2010.
306
00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:21,208
I came back from Iraq,
on leave.
307
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,417
And I came to an empty house.
308
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,709
It was...surreal.
309
00:25:36,208 --> 00:25:39,792
I had this sense
of disconnect.
310
00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:43,166
People were living
normal lives
311
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,375
while we were killing
or being killed.
312
00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,500
Thank you
for calling the New York Times.
313
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,375
..for calling
the Washington Post.
314
00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,250
News outlets,
they didn't care.
315
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,959
- It wasn't newsworthy to them.
316
00:25:56,625 --> 00:25:58,333
The notion of the Iraq War
317
00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:00,000
has left the consciousness.
318
00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,583
I'm trying to do
something different.
319
00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:21,083
I have all these documents
and I have the data
320
00:26:21,083 --> 00:26:23,458
and I need to do
something with it.
321
00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,291
We have no reason to doubt
322
00:26:56,291 --> 00:26:58,709
the reliability
of these documents.
323
00:26:58,709 --> 00:27:02,041
It is up to a court to decide...
324
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:05,792
...clearly, whether something
is, in the end, a crime.
325
00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:08,125
That said, prima facie,
326
00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:10,125
there does appear to be
327
00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,333
evidence of war crimes
in this material.
328
00:27:25,583 --> 00:27:28,000
We also have one individual,
329
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,917
uh...appears to be wounded,
trying to crawl away.
330
00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:41,667
Come on, buddy.
331
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
All you gotta do
is pick up a weapon.
332
00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:55,208
They're taking him!
333
00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:58,458
Bushmaster, Crazy Horse 1-8.
334
00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:01,208
Come on, let us shoot.
335
00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,333
This is Bushmaster 7.
Go ahead.
336
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:06,375
Roger, we have a black SUV,
uh, Bongo truck
337
00:28:06,375 --> 00:28:07,750
picking up the bodies.
338
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,875
Request permission
to engage.
339
00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,375
Bushmaster 7. Roger.
340
00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,709
This is Bushmaster 7.
Roger. Engage.
341
00:28:15,709 --> 00:28:18,208
1-8. Okay. Clear.
342
00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,542
- Come on.
343
00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,959
- Clear.
344
00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:27,458
- Clear.
- We're engaging.
345
00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,417
- Come around. Clear.
- Roger.
346
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,750
Hacker Adrian Lamo,
who turned him in,
347
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,291
says that he contacted
the Army
348
00:29:14,291 --> 00:29:17,625
after a series of very intense
email exchanges
349
00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,959
with the Army specialist
in late May.
350
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:25,250
Adrian Lamo claims
that Manning was unhappy
351
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,375
with some policies
in the military.
352
00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:29,875
He said that there was
an ideology problem,
353
00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:31,333
that he had leaked
other information
354
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,375
to the website WikiLeaks.
355
00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,291
Now, among the charges,
of course, the most serious one
356
00:29:44,291 --> 00:29:47,667
for Private Bradley Manning,
that of aiding the enemy.
357
00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,625
In a way,
it's the sheer scale of it
358
00:29:49,625 --> 00:29:50,792
that's hurt America's image.
359
00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:53,792
That a vast volume
of sensitive documents
360
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:56,625
was so easily available
to a private soldier
361
00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:58,000
with some hacking skills.
362
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,500
The United States Of America
is on trial today.
363
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,750
Let him go!
364
00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:06,750
Manning stood up
as an American soldier,
365
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:08,709
put himself in harm's way,
366
00:30:08,709 --> 00:30:10,750
and he should be free.
367
00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:36,709
No, ma'am.
368
00:31:49,125 --> 00:31:51,625
You've been
invisible for so long...
369
00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:54,291
Yeah.
- ...people have already...
370
00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:56,709
formed their own opinions
of who you are.
371
00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,583
I feel pressure
to correct that and to, like,
372
00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:03,458
clear that up.
373
00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,000
I was an unknown before.
374
00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,375
It's a little bit
nerve-racking.
375
00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:27,959
I'm not... I'm not ashamed
of anything.
376
00:32:27,959 --> 00:32:29,500
I'm not ashamed
of being trans.
377
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,959
I'm not ashamed
of what happened.
378
00:32:30,959 --> 00:32:33,709
Everything happened
and, like...
379
00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,333
I'm okay with that.
380
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,333
Yeah? And...
381
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,417
The main thing that I had
to do was just let go...
382
00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:46,834
of other people's expectations.
383
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:50,333
And that was tough.
384
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,000
It was one of the hardest things
I've ever had to do
385
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,917
because I had built my life
386
00:32:54,917 --> 00:32:57,500
around other people's
expectations.
387
00:32:58,792 --> 00:33:01,542
And I'm not gonna
fucking do that any more.
388
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,583
It does feel a little
bit like a calm before a storm.
389
00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:18,166
We know how fragile she is.
390
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,083
What I worry about
is that she'll be a big name
391
00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:28,875
and there'll be all this press
that'll happen,
392
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,542
and then all of a sudden,
it'll be over
393
00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:35,291
and she'll just be
out there on her own.
394
00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,667
We make these
in the wood shop,
395
00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:41,792
but we don't paint ours.
396
00:33:41,792 --> 00:33:43,083
We put oil on ours.
397
00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,792
We made Adirondack chairs
at the prison.
398
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:52,458
Yeah.
399
00:33:54,583 --> 00:33:57,291
Oh, it'll be like that
for a few weeks, I'm sure.
400
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,667
God, I missed
trying to do this.
401
00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,583
- I feel old.
402
00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,792
- Feel old?
- Yeah.
403
00:34:49,792 --> 00:34:52,125
I lost...
404
00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,375
I've lost seven years
of my life already.
405
00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,375
That's unfair.
406
00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,625
Last time
I walked down these streets,
407
00:34:59,625 --> 00:35:01,875
down the streets of this city,
408
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,959
Lady Gaga had just become big
409
00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:06,500
and the Iraq War
was still going on.
410
00:35:10,291 --> 00:35:13,542
It just feels like I've been
through a time machine.
411
00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:14,875
Time warp.
412
00:35:23,458 --> 00:35:26,583
An inmate at a military
correctional complex...
413
00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:29,000
- ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
414
00:35:52,625 --> 00:35:54,333
Where do you think
he got that idea?
415
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,291
All I was trying to get at
416
00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:14,625
was this whole idea
of personal responsibility
417
00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:18,208
that you seem to feel,
even though, of course,
418
00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:20,792
you...didn't have any...
419
00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:23,750
...direct... Absolutely.
420
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:25,625
You didn't pull the trigger.
421
00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,583
♪ suspenseful music ♪
422
00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:57,375
It's hard for me now,
423
00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,291
just because I know you
and love you
424
00:37:59,291 --> 00:38:01,375
and I hate the idea
of you being in prison.
425
00:38:01,375 --> 00:38:03,333
And so, for me,
it's easy to wonder
426
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:04,959
if it was worth it.
427
00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:22,417
It was just me
and Lisa against the world.
428
00:38:23,792 --> 00:38:27,083
We actually hadn't met
before I went to prison.
429
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:30,625
But she wrote to me, you know,
430
00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:33,500
this really sweet, kind,
thoughtful letter.
431
00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:40,834
It'll be the first time
I've ever seen her in person.
432
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,667
You know,
helping her get released,
433
00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,166
it really was
sort of like my life's work.
434
00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:57,667
It's really been...
435
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,917
There was a point when we were
just trying to keep her alive.
436
00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:12,709
Oh, shit.
437
00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,041
Alright?
438
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,500
You look fantastic.
439
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,625
Thanks.
440
00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,875
- It's one thing that...
- Your pictures...
441
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,417
Your pictures do you justice
but, I mean, like,
442
00:39:39,417 --> 00:39:40,834
in real life, wow.
443
00:39:43,291 --> 00:39:45,417
- Look at you.
- Look at you.
444
00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:49,291
- How different do I look?
445
00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,166
If you do a side-by-side
comparison,
446
00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,750
you can tell, right?
447
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:57,208
I don't know
if I would say that.
448
00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,417
Okay.
449
00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,458
You don't look anything
like your old picture.
450
00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:01,917
- No.
- Not even a little.
451
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,000
And your cheekbones and stuff.
452
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,083
I mean, it's really...
It's amazing to me.
453
00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:09,417
I didn't realize that...
454
00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:13,208
that hormones
changed that much
455
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:16,458
of, like...bone structure?
456
00:40:16,458 --> 00:40:19,542
No, it doesn't change
the bone structure.
457
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,125
Well, it changed...
It changed something.
458
00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:24,291
It changes how the skin, like...
459
00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:27,917
how the skin wraps around
the bones a little bit.
460
00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:30,166
Okay.
It's just so much different.
461
00:40:30,917 --> 00:40:32,792
- It's really different.
- Yeah.
462
00:40:32,792 --> 00:40:34,333
Yeah.
463
00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:48,125
Lisa was everything.
464
00:40:51,959 --> 00:40:53,500
She's family.
465
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,542
Chelsea?
466
00:41:16,542 --> 00:41:18,333
Hello?
467
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:30,917
Um...
468
00:41:45,375 --> 00:41:47,542
Shit.
469
00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:54,291
Even I didn't realize how much
you were hurting, Chelsea.
470
00:41:54,291 --> 00:41:56,291
Even I didn't know.
471
00:41:56,291 --> 00:41:58,750
You... You...
You weren't really telling me.
472
00:41:59,709 --> 00:42:02,208
And... And... I want you to...
473
00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:09,709
Very good at...?
474
00:42:22,208 --> 00:42:25,250
You know, she watched
the firework celebration
475
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:27,583
from her window...
476
00:42:27,583 --> 00:42:30,083
and then she took
the shoestrings
477
00:42:30,083 --> 00:42:32,625
that were, you know,
on her boots,
478
00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:35,250
attached them to a vent
hanging from the ceiling,
479
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:39,625
put a pillowcase
over her head...
480
00:42:39,625 --> 00:42:43,250
bound her hands
and her legs,
481
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:46,417
and then the next thing
that she remembers, actually,
482
00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:48,667
is being on the floor.
483
00:42:52,792 --> 00:42:55,000
She was unconscious...
484
00:42:56,125 --> 00:42:58,500
...and it could have
very well worked.
485
00:43:07,542 --> 00:43:10,500
I wouldn't say
that I've ever seen Chelsea...
486
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:13,125
...be happy.
487
00:43:13,125 --> 00:43:16,583
I've seen her smile,
I've seen her laugh.
488
00:43:16,583 --> 00:43:19,917
I've seen her crack jokes.
489
00:43:19,917 --> 00:43:22,291
But, honestly, I don't know
that I've ever seen her
490
00:43:22,291 --> 00:43:24,792
be happy.
491
00:43:24,792 --> 00:43:26,667
♪ contemplative music ♪
492
00:44:55,458 --> 00:44:57,750
When I was a teenager...
493
00:44:58,750 --> 00:45:00,625
...I was completely helpless
494
00:45:00,625 --> 00:45:03,208
and I didn't have anybody
to protect me,
495
00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:06,458
and I didn't have anybody
to tell me that...
496
00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:08,709
it's okay for me to be who I am.
497
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,000
I've built up
these defense mechanisms.
498
00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,458
I have these walls and...
499
00:45:21,917 --> 00:45:25,750
...I had to go through hell
to get to that point.
500
00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:35,250
I can get through this.
501
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:37,583
This is just a few weeks
of chaos.
502
00:45:43,709 --> 00:45:46,583
Like I said,
it'll be a one-hour interview.
503
00:45:46,583 --> 00:45:49,333
They'll pick us up here
at 10:30.
504
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,375
- Yeah. We'll bring the outfit.
- Exactly.
505
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:53,792
Bring the outfit, and there'll
be hair and make-up.
506
00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:55,917
- Cool.
- Yeah.
507
00:45:55,917 --> 00:45:58,625
The main things is...
508
00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:01,458
the decision-making process
509
00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:04,291
in choosing to
disclose the documents.
510
00:46:04,291 --> 00:46:08,250
So, let's say that
Juju asks you a question.
511
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,917
Um...
512
00:46:10,917 --> 00:46:12,709
So, you'd looked at
the documents,
513
00:46:12,709 --> 00:46:14,458
and you made the judgment
514
00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:17,625
that they wouldn't harm
any individuals
515
00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:19,291
before you disclosed them?
516
00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,500
It's not possible to read
every single line
517
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,792
of every single document.
518
00:46:22,792 --> 00:46:25,291
But I knew exactly
what was in these documents.
519
00:46:25,291 --> 00:46:27,333
I knew the specific types
of information
520
00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:28,667
in these documents.
521
00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:32,583
And I carefully considered it
and, no, I don't believe...
522
00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,709
I did not believe
that any harm would come
523
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,667
from these documents.
524
00:46:38,959 --> 00:46:40,917
Some of these questions
are really hard,
525
00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:42,834
so practice helps a little bit
526
00:46:42,834 --> 00:46:45,959
in being able to navigate.
527
00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:47,834
I'm not somebody
who's going on TV
528
00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,583
for the sake of being on TV.
529
00:46:49,583 --> 00:46:53,333
I... I-I-I...
There is an underlying...
530
00:46:55,125 --> 00:46:58,583
We're in a moment of history,
where this stuff is important
531
00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:01,333
and I don't want to
screw it up for somebody else.
532
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,542
One of the things that's nice
533
00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:22,458
is, like, when you have
a historical figure like this,
534
00:47:22,458 --> 00:47:24,291
is there is
something that's um...
535
00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:28,166
...that's quite powerful
about being so up close.
536
00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:30,792
But there's also something
very powerful about seeing
537
00:47:30,792 --> 00:47:33,041
her entire body,
like, head to toe.
538
00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:36,875
She's, like...the entire figure
is present on this cover.
539
00:47:37,709 --> 00:47:41,375
I love how she just totally...
540
00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,375
uh...seems at ease.
541
00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:45,041
I like this one
because it has...
542
00:47:45,041 --> 00:47:47,250
It feels to me enormous power,
543
00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:48,834
the kind of power
that she must have
544
00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:50,709
to be the person she is.
545
00:47:52,542 --> 00:47:55,250
There's something about
the atmosphere of that picture,
546
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:58,083
like, there's a sense
of narrative to this one...
547
00:47:58,083 --> 00:47:59,625
Yeah.
548
00:47:59,625 --> 00:48:01,750
There's also, like,
some vague suggestion
549
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,500
of, like, an interrogation,
or something like that,
550
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,667
sitting in the chair,
551
00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:07,500
in a kind of, like,
stripped-down room.
552
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,583
And for her first time,
sort of, sitting down
553
00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,291
and telling her story,
I think that works.
554
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:20,083
Alright. You ready
to go on the record?
555
00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,917
About how many weeks
into the second deployment
556
00:48:22,917 --> 00:48:25,917
did you get in touch
with WikiLeaks?
557
00:48:25,917 --> 00:48:28,458
It was all one deployment,
but after, it was...
558
00:48:28,458 --> 00:48:31,417
It was uh...
It was during leave...
559
00:48:31,417 --> 00:48:33,750
It was during
my leave that I...
560
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:35,792
that I started using the site.
561
00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,875
It was never about
being caught.
562
00:48:40,875 --> 00:48:44,166
I...wanted
the information out.
563
00:48:44,792 --> 00:48:46,792
Uh...
564
00:48:46,792 --> 00:48:49,041
I was eventually going
to go public.
565
00:48:49,041 --> 00:48:50,959
- You were?
- Yes.
566
00:48:50,959 --> 00:48:53,125
I just didn't know
how to do that.
567
00:49:04,709 --> 00:49:09,625
Yes, I was worried that
being trans would be...
568
00:49:09,625 --> 00:49:11,542
would take over
everything else.
569
00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:16,625
Right.
I was worried it would...
570
00:49:16,625 --> 00:49:18,500
It would be used against me.
571
00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,917
I wanted people to know then
the things I was seeing.
572
00:49:35,959 --> 00:49:38,542
Life was cheap in Iraq.
573
00:49:44,583 --> 00:49:46,542
And it made me realize
574
00:49:46,542 --> 00:49:50,041
that... how precious
life actually is.
575
00:49:52,792 --> 00:49:55,166
How precious
everyone's life is.
576
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,667
♪ tense music ♪
577
00:50:56,917 --> 00:50:58,125
That's right.
578
00:51:15,417 --> 00:51:19,709
This is a war
that resulted in the deaths
579
00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,959
of hundreds of thousands
of Iraqis,
580
00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:26,125
four and a half thousand
American soldiers...
581
00:51:34,542 --> 00:51:39,417
It was also a war
that we sped into
582
00:51:39,417 --> 00:51:43,166
in no small part because of
government secrecy.
583
00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:46,250
How can a nation function
584
00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:48,208
if we don't know
what we've done?
585
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,667
And the finale of this war,
586
00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:28,375
that started under cover
of secrecy and lies,
587
00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:32,166
ends with the prosecution
and court martial
588
00:52:32,166 --> 00:52:34,875
of someone
who got the truth out.
589
00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:01,250
Mm.
590
00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:13,583
He was good.
591
00:54:14,792 --> 00:54:16,375
Oh...
592
00:54:16,375 --> 00:54:18,792
So sorry, sweetheart. Um...
593
00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:21,792
Ch-Ch-Chelsea.
I'm getting used to it now.
594
00:54:22,667 --> 00:54:24,291
Slowly.
595
00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:26,792
It's tough. Tough.
596
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,000
He was always my baby.
597
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,834
He was always my...
598
00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:38,458
...Bradley. Hm.
599
00:54:44,083 --> 00:54:46,625
He had the box room,
where he slept in.
600
00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:49,792
And he had
how many computers?
601
00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:53,125
I think it was...
one, two, three...
602
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:58,375
Three computers set up.
603
00:54:59,166 --> 00:55:02,583
And he had this desk chair,
604
00:55:02,583 --> 00:55:04,166
on rollers.
605
00:55:09,417 --> 00:55:11,208
Ah.
606
00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:14,000
And... Oh! And it was locked.
607
00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:16,542
There was a bolt.
608
00:55:16,542 --> 00:55:19,834
I used to say, "That's one room
I don't have to clean."
609
00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:37,291
I can't remember.
610
00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:39,125
Quant... Quant-something.
611
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,375
That's it.
612
00:55:43,375 --> 00:55:46,125
It was a cinder block,
cinder block,
613
00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,375
and just two chairs.
614
00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:56,250
I-I didn't say a lot because...
615
00:55:57,375 --> 00:55:59,166
...I don't know.
616
00:55:59,166 --> 00:56:01,125
He's, like...
617
00:56:04,417 --> 00:56:06,709
I couldn't touch, couldn't hug.
618
00:56:08,041 --> 00:56:10,250
He was, like...
619
00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:14,125
Oh.
620
00:56:14,125 --> 00:56:17,625
Sorry. But I do love you.
621
00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,208
And if I could hug you,
622
00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:24,250
I'd give you the biggest hug
you ever had.
623
00:56:38,125 --> 00:56:39,917
It's ten o'clock.
624
00:56:50,083 --> 00:56:52,000
Twitter's quite addictive.
625
00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:59,208
They're seeing me
push back from, you know...
626
00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:03,542
In a reasonable way
for the first time.
627
00:57:05,458 --> 00:57:07,709
"I don't agree with
what Chelsea Manning did.
628
00:57:07,709 --> 00:57:09,834
There are appropriate channels
to go through.
629
00:57:09,834 --> 00:57:11,959
Our national security
is important."
630
00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:15,458
And I just...
I responded to that
631
00:57:15,458 --> 00:57:19,000
and said, "Ever actually
try those channels?"
632
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,959
And that's it.
633
00:57:20,959 --> 00:57:23,834
And, like, people
went nuts after that.
634
00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,041
So...
635
00:57:26,375 --> 00:57:28,625
"She Will"
636
00:58:27,208 --> 00:58:28,542
♪ Oh... ♪
637
00:58:28,542 --> 00:58:31,542
♪ You've got to get used to it♪
638
00:58:31,542 --> 00:58:33,875
♪ And give your heart
a little kick ♪
639
00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:36,959
♪ She will, she will,
she will, she will ♪
640
00:58:36,959 --> 00:58:40,125
♪ She will, she will,
she will, she will... ♪
641
00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:47,083
I was trans before
I started taking hormones.
642
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:52,500
I'm the same person as I was.
643
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,458
I just am presenting
myself differently.
644
00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,208
People don't understand
645
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,291
how young the people are
who are in the military.
646
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,917
I'm uniquely situated
to have been the person
647
00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:16,375
that probably interacted with
Chelsea face to face the most
648
00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:19,333
over the last several years
now.
649
00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:22,375
However many years it's been.
I don't even know.
650
00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:26,083
And I have my own sense of
who she is as a person, right?
651
00:59:26,083 --> 00:59:28,417
It doesn't always
line up and match
652
00:59:28,417 --> 00:59:30,750
what the public perception
of Chelsea is.
653
00:59:34,667 --> 00:59:38,041
And I think that she's aware
654
00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:42,250
of that journey ahead of her.
655
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:46,333
And I think she also
recognizes that she can't...
656
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:47,500
You can't really dictate...
657
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,291
She can't dictate for herself
658
00:59:49,291 --> 00:59:52,375
which path that's gonna go,
right?
659
00:59:52,375 --> 00:59:55,000
Because she's been prevented
for the last ten years
660
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,375
of having the kinds of
experiences that we had
661
00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:59,583
that helped shape us.
662
00:59:59,583 --> 01:00:03,000
And then that becomes
very overwhelming for people.
663
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,333
But particularly
for somebody like Chelsea,
664
01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:07,458
who's still trying to be her.
665
01:00:07,458 --> 01:00:10,041
You know, she's still
trying to be who she is.
666
01:00:10,959 --> 01:00:14,375
So as she's finally able
to be who she is,
667
01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:17,542
I just can't wait to see
what she turns into.
668
01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,625
Ahh...
669
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,625
Mm...
670
01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:44,583
You are now an icon
to many people
671
01:00:44,583 --> 01:00:47,291
who believe that the government
needs to be more transparent,
672
01:00:47,291 --> 01:00:49,083
not just in war but in general.
673
01:00:49,083 --> 01:00:50,625
If someone,
674
01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,083
let's say a young programmer,
675
01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:53,667
comes to you
676
01:00:53,667 --> 01:00:56,750
who wants to work for more
government transparency,
677
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:59,542
what would you suggest?
678
01:00:59,542 --> 01:01:01,792
Make your own decisions,
make your own choices,
679
01:01:01,792 --> 01:01:03,834
make your own judgment...
680
01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:06,500
Are there specific things
that they could do
681
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,166
to further
that particular cause?
682
01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:10,834
No. I mean,
you have to pay attention.
683
01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:12,291
You have to pay attention.
684
01:01:12,291 --> 01:01:16,542
How did the turmoil
that you were going through
685
01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:20,417
in terms of thinking
about transitioning...
686
01:01:20,417 --> 01:01:23,709
How did that affect
your disclosures later on...
687
01:01:23,709 --> 01:01:25,709
- I don't...
- ...as your attorney says?
688
01:01:25,709 --> 01:01:27,083
I don't think it did. You know,
689
01:01:27,083 --> 01:01:30,375
it was this endless, straight,
like, you know, like...
690
01:01:30,375 --> 01:01:32,125
They're not connected.
691
01:01:32,125 --> 01:01:33,583
I don't think they're connected.
692
01:01:33,583 --> 01:01:35,792
I see the, like, endless stream
693
01:01:35,792 --> 01:01:37,875
of violence and death
and destruction
694
01:01:37,875 --> 01:01:40,083
as being the primary motivator.
695
01:01:40,083 --> 01:01:41,583
Okay.
696
01:01:41,583 --> 01:01:45,291
Now, WikiLeaks, it's gone
a whole road since back then.
697
01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:47,542
What did you know
about WikiLeaks in 2010?
698
01:01:47,542 --> 01:01:49,750
What did you...
It was much more obscure.
699
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:51,709
Well, I mean...
Yeah, it was, it was.
700
01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:53,750
I wasn't really a part of,
like, you know...
701
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:55,792
It was, like... I was, like...
702
01:01:55,792 --> 01:01:57,917
I was running out of time
and decisions
703
01:01:57,917 --> 01:01:59,625
and they just had
the tools available.
704
01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:01,458
They knew how to use them.
That was it.
705
01:02:01,458 --> 01:02:02,917
That's all it boiled own to.
706
01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:04,667
It's like, I...
I was running out of time.
707
01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:07,250
- Because you had to go to Iraq.
- I had to go back to Iraq.
708
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:08,625
And, you know...
709
01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:12,375
There was no way I was gonna
be able to upload it from Iraq.
710
01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:15,500
You know, it's a policy of
newspapers to redact names
711
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,625
to protect the identities of
people who might be in danger
712
01:02:18,625 --> 01:02:21,750
and the head of WikiLeaks,
Julian Assange,
713
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,375
believes in much more
complete transparency
714
01:02:24,375 --> 01:02:27,333
and he believes that it would
contaminate the evidence,
715
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:28,583
to use his phrase,
716
01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:30,250
if you did redact those names.
717
01:02:30,250 --> 01:02:33,083
And so he did not,
in some cases,
718
01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:37,500
which potentially
endangered informants,
719
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,208
particularly in Afghanistan.
720
01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:41,250
We strongly dispute those facts.
721
01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:42,375
Okay.
722
01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:44,083
We strongly dispute those facts.
723
01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,583
The government was not able
to show any indication of that.
724
01:02:47,583 --> 01:02:49,625
- Yes, yes.
- Zero.
725
01:02:49,625 --> 01:02:52,959
Did you not fear sending out
these things
726
01:02:52,959 --> 01:02:54,750
that you didn't know
what was in them?
727
01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:57,166
I did know. I worked
with this information every day.
728
01:02:57,166 --> 01:02:59,208
Did you not fear
that it might hurt someone
729
01:02:59,208 --> 01:03:01,458
- if you didn't know exactly...
- Absolutely not.
730
01:03:01,458 --> 01:03:02,709
It was historical data.
731
01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,500
There's no sources.
There's no methods.
732
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,125
There's no intelligence
information in here.
733
01:03:07,125 --> 01:03:10,667
It's not there. It's people
dying and people getting killed
734
01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:12,500
and people suffering
735
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:14,875
and on a massive,
incredible scale.
736
01:03:18,542 --> 01:03:21,667
As a result... I'm going to
skip ahead a little bit...
737
01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:23,041
It must be a difficult position
738
01:03:23,041 --> 01:03:26,458
because you're an important
public figure for many people
739
01:03:26,458 --> 01:03:28,083
and yet I can understand
740
01:03:28,083 --> 01:03:30,917
how you want to just get on
with a new life as well
741
01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:32,667
and these things
keep coming back.
742
01:03:32,667 --> 01:03:34,667
How do you deal with that?
743
01:03:38,417 --> 01:03:39,875
I don't know.
744
01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:43,500
I haven't figured that out yet.
745
01:05:58,291 --> 01:06:00,875
How did you survive
in solitary confinement?
746
01:06:05,834 --> 01:06:09,500
I just remember, you know,
whenever I was in Kuwait,
747
01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,667
that I died.
748
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,500
I was alive but I was dead.
749
01:06:17,667 --> 01:06:20,583
And I've been dead ever since.
750
01:06:20,583 --> 01:06:22,583
Sort of...
If that makes any sense.
751
01:06:25,417 --> 01:06:28,667
Like, somehow I'm, like, in this
visceral, like, purgatory
752
01:06:28,667 --> 01:06:32,709
between...the two.
753
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,875
And that time.
754
01:06:35,875 --> 01:06:38,041
And then I wake up for a while.
755
01:06:40,625 --> 01:06:42,834
I just want to forget
it ever happened.
756
01:06:49,458 --> 01:06:51,166
I just want to not be reminded
757
01:06:51,166 --> 01:06:53,083
that it ever
happened to me ever.
758
01:06:55,959 --> 01:06:58,959
I think that the moments
that I've enjoyed,
759
01:06:59,917 --> 01:07:01,417
you know, in the years since,
760
01:07:01,417 --> 01:07:04,208
have been whenever
I've completely forgotten.
761
01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:22,041
People want me to relive it
and I can't.
762
01:07:28,375 --> 01:07:31,834
I'm just trying
to find some closure
763
01:07:31,834 --> 01:07:33,583
and some peace to all this.
764
01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:39,041
I live in a state of,
you know, uncertainty
765
01:07:39,041 --> 01:07:41,709
and I feel like
every step I take
766
01:07:41,709 --> 01:07:44,583
is a step on thin ice.
767
01:07:44,583 --> 01:07:46,208
I mean, I'm just, you know,
768
01:07:46,208 --> 01:07:49,250
I'm just another one of us
that's scared.
769
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:52,083
You know. I just...
I find myself backed in a corner
770
01:07:52,083 --> 01:07:53,750
and there's no other way to go
771
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,583
other than to fight back
772
01:07:55,583 --> 01:07:59,125
and I'm certainly not going to
wait for somebody to save me.
773
01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:03,750
Or save any of us.
774
01:08:05,291 --> 01:08:08,250
I'm certainly not going to wait
for anybody to save any of us
775
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:12,458
because, chances are...
nobody's coming.
776
01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,291
Go ahead.
777
01:08:26,125 --> 01:08:30,166
These are not the people
that made our country great.
778
01:08:30,166 --> 01:08:32,208
But we're gonna
make it great again.
779
01:08:34,041 --> 01:08:37,291
These are the people that
are destroying our country.
780
01:08:39,792 --> 01:08:41,083
The Trump
administration's ban
781
01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:42,500
on military service
782
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:43,792
by transgender people
783
01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:45,417
was announced via Tweet.
784
01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:47,750
What happens to transgender
service members now?
785
01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:50,041
Are they immediately
thrown out of the military?
786
01:09:24,792 --> 01:09:27,000
- Hey.
787
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,917
- How are ya?
- I'm doing okay.
788
01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:32,917
I just wanted to check in 'cause
I know I've been super busy.
789
01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:35,375
Yeah.
It's nice to hear your voice.
790
01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:37,208
It's like
everything's just falling apart
791
01:09:37,208 --> 01:09:39,250
and getting worse
and becoming a disaster again.
792
01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,500
- Mm-hm.
- My safe is coming.
793
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:45,041
And my surveillance cameras
are... I have them installed.
794
01:09:45,041 --> 01:09:46,709
I just need to wire them.
795
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:48,583
Good.
You do what needs to be done.
796
01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:49,709
Yeah.
797
01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,875
As soon as I started to see...
798
01:09:52,875 --> 01:09:54,250
As soon as
Charlottesville happened,
799
01:09:54,250 --> 01:09:56,542
I was, like, I need security.
800
01:10:03,041 --> 01:10:06,125
For the last
six months, the alt-right,
801
01:10:06,125 --> 01:10:08,291
they've been, like, mobilized,
802
01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:13,333
and emboldened by the fact that,
803
01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,250
you know,
they have an administration
804
01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:17,458
that appears to be
favorable to them.
805
01:10:25,333 --> 01:10:28,166
Can you explain
what we're doing?
806
01:10:31,875 --> 01:10:34,166
For somebody
like me, like a trans person,
807
01:10:34,166 --> 01:10:36,875
or somebody who's black
or brown in this country,
808
01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:40,542
or Jewish in this country...
this is an existential threat.
809
01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:44,792
You know, today it might not be
an existential threat.
810
01:10:44,792 --> 01:10:47,917
But five years from now, it's
an absolute existential threat.
811
01:10:53,542 --> 01:10:56,333
We can be afraid to say
something sometimes.
812
01:10:56,333 --> 01:11:00,250
And I'm not as afraid any more
as I used to be
813
01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:02,625
of saying the thing
that needs to be said.
814
01:11:05,041 --> 01:11:06,917
What are they gonna do?
815
01:11:06,917 --> 01:11:09,125
Throw me in prison?
816
01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,959
Or kill me?
817
01:11:11,959 --> 01:11:14,125
They're gonna do that anyway.
818
01:11:14,125 --> 01:11:17,417
If we let them, you know...
819
01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:21,542
If we let them take
the reins of our society.
820
01:11:21,542 --> 01:11:24,041
You know, like,
they're gonna do that anyway.
821
01:11:24,875 --> 01:11:28,125
So I'd rather go down fighting.
822
01:11:30,291 --> 01:11:32,291
♪ dramatic instrumental music ♪
823
01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:42,166
Here I am.
824
01:11:42,166 --> 01:11:44,333
- Chelsea!
- Whoo!
825
01:11:46,792 --> 01:11:49,041
I was told not to come here
by numerous people.
826
01:11:49,041 --> 01:11:50,500
Fuck 'em!
- Yeah.
827
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,000
For so long,
I wasn't able to even be seen
828
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,333
or be out on the streets.
829
01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:56,250
I've been in prison
for seven years.
830
01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:59,000
It was being silenced that
made me so afraid and so...
831
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,125
You're a hero!
832
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:06,959
When I first got out,
I did not think I was gonna be
833
01:12:06,959 --> 01:12:09,166
jumping straight back
into activism.
834
01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:12,166
I feel embattled.
835
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:16,875
I've seen
what an occupied country is.
836
01:12:16,875 --> 01:12:19,917
And I've seen what
local suppression looks like.
837
01:12:20,959 --> 01:12:23,125
And I'm seeing all of this
right here
838
01:12:23,125 --> 01:12:26,875
in a place
that I want to call home.
839
01:12:40,291 --> 01:12:42,458
- Good? Good?
- Yes.
840
01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:44,208
Good? Good?
841
01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:46,208
- Consensus.
- Consensus.
842
01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:47,834
Tweet.
843
01:12:47,834 --> 01:12:49,041
♪ dramatic music ♪
844
01:12:52,959 --> 01:12:54,917
We need to stop expecting
845
01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:58,125
that our systems
will somehow fix themselves.
846
01:12:58,125 --> 01:13:02,083
We need to actually take
the reins of power from them.
847
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,291
We need to fix this.
848
01:13:05,291 --> 01:13:07,417
USA! USA!
849
01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,625
Damn right we got this.
850
01:13:12,542 --> 01:13:13,750
Whistle-blower
Chelsea Manning
851
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:15,750
surprised the political world
this week
852
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,458
by announcing she was
running for the US Senate.
853
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:23,208
Manning is challenging
Democratic incumbent Ben Cardin
854
01:13:23,208 --> 01:13:25,208
in the upcoming June primaries.
855
01:13:26,083 --> 01:13:28,250
You are on the air.
Go ahead, please.
856
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:29,417
My question is,
so, Chelsea,
857
01:13:29,417 --> 01:13:31,458
you had some suicide attempts
in prison.
858
01:13:31,458 --> 01:13:33,458
For someone who's had
those kind of issues,
859
01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:35,417
what makes you the candidate
860
01:13:35,417 --> 01:13:37,750
to represent
the people of Maryland?
861
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:39,875
Are you suggesting
that someone
862
01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:41,917
who has suffered
from clinical depression
863
01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:43,792
is not qualified
to run for office?
864
01:13:43,792 --> 01:13:44,834
No, that's not what
I'm suggesting.
865
01:13:44,834 --> 01:13:45,917
Okay.
866
01:13:45,917 --> 01:13:48,041
He's asking, are you
mentally stable now
867
01:13:48,041 --> 01:13:51,250
given all the horrific...?
I think that's what he's asking.
868
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,166
Given discussions
about the President
869
01:13:53,166 --> 01:13:55,500
and his mental stability,
870
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,375
I think that
should be something
871
01:13:57,375 --> 01:13:59,333
we ask about all candidates.
872
01:13:59,333 --> 01:14:00,917
I strongly disagree.
873
01:14:00,917 --> 01:14:03,291
You know, we shouldn't be
stigmatizing anybody
874
01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:04,917
for any mental health issues.
875
01:14:04,917 --> 01:14:06,458
You know. But um...
876
01:14:06,458 --> 01:14:10,125
Like, I'm more than willing
to admit I'm in therapy.
877
01:14:10,125 --> 01:14:12,417
As a senator, would you release
confidential information
878
01:14:12,417 --> 01:14:14,583
that was being held
by Senate panel?
879
01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:18,250
No, but I would certainly move
to push for as much transparency
880
01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:20,709
in government as possible.
881
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:22,709
You're challenging
the Democratic incumbent
882
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:24,166
in the primary.
883
01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,542
Your platform includes
closing prisons,
884
01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,917
free college,
universal healthcare...
885
01:14:33,834 --> 01:14:36,166
Hi, I'm Chelsea Manning.
I'm running for US Senate.
886
01:14:36,166 --> 01:14:38,333
And I get asked this a lot
by reporters, you know.
887
01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:40,417
"Why are you running
for Senate?"
888
01:14:40,417 --> 01:14:43,583
If you look around and you look
at everything that's going on,
889
01:14:43,583 --> 01:14:45,458
whether it's
the immigration debate,
890
01:14:45,458 --> 01:14:48,792
healthcare or police,
police brutality,
891
01:14:48,792 --> 01:14:50,166
and mass surveillance...
892
01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:52,417
Like, why the hell
wouldn't I be running?
893
01:14:52,417 --> 01:14:54,041
You know, in this environment,
894
01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:57,000
in this toxic environment
that we live in,
895
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,709
where's our say?
896
01:15:06,083 --> 01:15:07,625
We're just trying
to excite people.
897
01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:09,083
And... And...
898
01:15:09,083 --> 01:15:11,041
Yeah, we know
it's an uphill battle.
899
01:15:11,041 --> 01:15:13,291
We know...
900
01:15:13,291 --> 01:15:16,458
words like "Cinderella story",
901
01:15:16,458 --> 01:15:18,959
"long shot", "underdog",
902
01:15:18,959 --> 01:15:20,917
words like that
are going to be applied.
903
01:15:22,041 --> 01:15:23,417
Is it stressful? Oh, yeah.
904
01:15:23,417 --> 01:15:25,542
This is very stressful.
905
01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,542
But we also know that
906
01:15:29,542 --> 01:15:31,375
at the end of it all
907
01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:34,417
we're going to be
so happy that we tried.
908
01:15:34,417 --> 01:15:36,625
Changing the world isn't easy.
909
01:15:36,625 --> 01:15:39,291
It's not. I mean...
910
01:15:39,291 --> 01:15:41,458
Chelsea knows.
911
01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:12,917
If you're
an intelligence analyst,
912
01:16:12,917 --> 01:16:15,500
you really have to
understand your opponent.
913
01:16:17,542 --> 01:16:19,750
And you have to think
like your opponent.
914
01:16:21,417 --> 01:16:24,291
A certain amount of empathy
is a requirement
915
01:16:24,291 --> 01:16:26,250
to being effective.
916
01:16:35,917 --> 01:16:38,417
Whenever I've protested
917
01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,834
against the alt-right,
918
01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,625
I realized
that Cassandra Fairbanks
919
01:16:43,625 --> 01:16:45,208
was there.
920
01:16:45,208 --> 01:16:48,125
She was a supporter
in my campaign
921
01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:50,000
to get me out of prison.
922
01:16:55,291 --> 01:16:57,458
I decided to use
that connection
923
01:16:57,458 --> 01:17:00,250
to try to see what information
we could glean
924
01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:03,667
from that particular
flavor of the alt-right.
925
01:17:06,083 --> 01:17:09,000
It's called rapport-building
in intelligence work.
926
01:17:11,458 --> 01:17:14,500
I didn't really know what the
fuck I was getting myself into.
927
01:17:17,417 --> 01:17:19,500
I finally hit the jackpot.
928
01:17:20,458 --> 01:17:23,417
She invited me to an event.
929
01:17:23,417 --> 01:17:27,417
All of alt-right Twitter
in the same fucking room.
930
01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,208
USA! USA!
931
01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:34,333
Manning...
932
01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,375
We're never coming down.
933
01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:38,291
We took America back.
934
01:17:38,291 --> 01:17:40,291
America's ours now.
935
01:17:40,291 --> 01:17:41,709
We're never coming down.
936
01:17:41,709 --> 01:17:43,458
- Never!
- Never!
937
01:17:43,458 --> 01:17:45,166
- Never coming down.
938
01:17:45,166 --> 01:17:47,166
- We're never coming down.
- We're coming to get you
939
01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,500
if you try and take
our firearms!
940
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,709
America's back!
941
01:17:49,709 --> 01:17:52,333
- That's what's up!
- You piece of filth!
942
01:18:54,125 --> 01:18:56,375
Everybody keeps
getting mad at me.
943
01:18:56,375 --> 01:18:58,542
Every time I open my phone,
people are mad at me.
944
01:18:58,542 --> 01:19:01,250
Every time they fucking talk
to me, I have to break shit up.
945
01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,542
They're fucking...
946
01:19:02,542 --> 01:19:05,583
And guess what, they're gonna
counter-attack for months, okay?
947
01:19:05,583 --> 01:19:06,750
Every time we do something,
948
01:19:06,750 --> 01:19:08,250
they're going to
fucking respond.
949
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:09,417
- Shh.
- We're not going to.
950
01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:10,834
Chelsea, I'm not mad.
951
01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,917
- I'm not mad.
- Yeah, you are.
952
01:19:12,917 --> 01:19:15,208
You might not think you're mad
but you're mad.
953
01:19:15,208 --> 01:19:17,458
Do you realize, this is like
a scene in the movie
954
01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:19,000
when all the good guys realize
955
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,834
that the enemies are
manipulating them
956
01:19:20,834 --> 01:19:22,375
and dividing them
against each other.
957
01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:23,959
We are a roomful of allies.
958
01:19:23,959 --> 01:19:26,625
We're all on the same team
in here and we're fighting.
959
01:19:34,166 --> 01:19:36,625
- This is old fucking news.
- Okay.
960
01:19:37,875 --> 01:19:40,125
Seven days old now.
961
01:19:41,166 --> 01:19:42,875
I'm tired of fucking
hearing about this.
962
01:19:42,875 --> 01:19:45,417
I am too. We all are.
963
01:19:45,417 --> 01:19:47,959
This is driving us
into the fucking ground.
964
01:19:50,083 --> 01:19:51,625
We've said so much
to your supporters,
965
01:19:51,625 --> 01:19:53,291
so much to people
who were upset.
966
01:19:53,291 --> 01:19:55,125
We can't say any more
to smooth it over.
967
01:19:55,125 --> 01:19:57,208
Nothing we say
will change anyone's minds.
968
01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,834
No matter what we do,
people's minds are set.
969
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:09,875
This week was fucking traumatic.
970
01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,917
And I am over it.
I'm so over it.
971
01:20:12,542 --> 01:20:13,667
You don't fucking...
972
01:20:13,667 --> 01:20:15,917
You don't do that.
You don't play their game.
973
01:20:15,917 --> 01:20:17,875
Yeah, don't play their game.
Thank you.
974
01:20:19,458 --> 01:20:21,667
I messed this up.
975
01:20:24,041 --> 01:20:26,000
♪ brooding violin music ♪
976
01:21:04,542 --> 01:21:06,917
I knew I'd fucked up.
977
01:21:06,917 --> 01:21:10,875
I immediately knew
that it was indefensible.
978
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,458
It was wrong.
979
01:21:33,959 --> 01:21:35,917
I don't know what people
are expecting out of me.
980
01:21:35,917 --> 01:21:38,542
I mean, I don't know
what the fuck I'm doing.
981
01:21:38,542 --> 01:21:40,500
I just got out of prison.
982
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:46,750
You know. And here we are.
983
01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,834
We're right next to Quantico,
by the way.
984
01:21:48,834 --> 01:21:50,625
Where we are.
985
01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:52,709
So... About a mile and a half
986
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:55,583
from where I was held
in solitary confinement.
987
01:22:12,917 --> 01:22:16,458
I was never gonna be a...
a mouthpiece.
988
01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:22,125
I'm not a hero.
989
01:22:27,792 --> 01:22:29,792
I'm just somebody who...
990
01:22:32,417 --> 01:22:34,792
...you know...
991
01:22:34,792 --> 01:22:36,959
I've always been somebody
992
01:22:36,959 --> 01:22:39,291
willing to, like, jump in
and do something.
993
01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,667
I've spoken through
other family members to her
994
01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:49,709
but it's very difficult
to reach her.
995
01:22:56,834 --> 01:22:59,083
You know, and she's not well.
996
01:23:00,792 --> 01:23:03,000
She had a stroke. Yeah.
997
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:07,208
I try to not get them involved
998
01:23:07,208 --> 01:23:09,417
in all the craziness
that happens around me.
999
01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:16,667
I heard from my father but...
we don't talk much.
1000
01:23:22,667 --> 01:23:24,583
Our...
1001
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,083
Our positions on life
are so divergent
1002
01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:32,709
that I don't know
if we can reconcile.
1003
01:23:33,917 --> 01:23:35,959
I don't know
if we can reconcile.
1004
01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,917
He cared less
about me being gay.
1005
01:23:43,041 --> 01:23:47,291
I think he's kind of in denial
about my trans-ness.
1006
01:23:50,667 --> 01:23:52,125
I think...
1007
01:23:54,792 --> 01:23:56,583
I think...
1008
01:24:00,709 --> 01:24:02,709
I think he doesn't know
who I am.
1009
01:25:11,041 --> 01:25:12,959
Suspicions undoubtedly
have been raised
1010
01:25:12,959 --> 01:25:15,792
that this happened
to Chelsea Manning.
1011
01:25:15,792 --> 01:25:17,542
The police raid her home
with guns drawn
1012
01:25:17,542 --> 01:25:19,500
in this so-called
"Wellness Check".
1013
01:25:20,792 --> 01:25:22,625
She's a candidate
for the US Senate
1014
01:25:22,625 --> 01:25:24,208
who is known
for participating
1015
01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:26,166
in political protests.
1016
01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:59,000
Come on, Janice.
1017
01:26:03,166 --> 01:26:05,166
Hey,
I have the final statement
1018
01:26:05,166 --> 01:26:07,333
if you want me to read it.
1019
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,667
Uh-huh.
1020
01:26:09,959 --> 01:26:12,417
"Last year, when I was
released from prison,
1021
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:15,041
I emerged into a world
of hate and injustice.
1022
01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:18,291
I wondered if I should spend
1023
01:26:18,291 --> 01:26:20,041
my first year of freedom
recovering.
1024
01:26:20,875 --> 01:26:23,875
But I couldn't sit still.
1025
01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:26,250
I tried to use my platform
as a public figure
1026
01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:27,625
to send a message.
1027
01:26:27,625 --> 01:26:29,625
Every one of us has power.
1028
01:26:31,083 --> 01:26:33,542
Over the past several months
it has become clear
1029
01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:36,208
that my experiences
have taken an enormous toll
1030
01:26:36,208 --> 01:26:38,375
on my physical
and emotional health.
1031
01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:41,750
I stepped back
from campaigning
1032
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:43,750
to prioritize
my own well-being.
1033
01:26:46,041 --> 01:26:48,875
I found the space and
the treatment I need to heal.
1034
01:26:49,917 --> 01:26:51,375
I'm not giving up.
1035
01:26:51,375 --> 01:26:53,792
I'm grateful for everyone
who believes in me.
1036
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,208
Together we got this."
1037
01:26:57,208 --> 01:26:59,500
- Does that sound good?
1038
01:27:01,792 --> 01:27:04,000
Chelsea?
1039
01:27:20,917 --> 01:27:23,667
It's harder
to do the right thing
1040
01:27:23,667 --> 01:27:26,583
than it is
to go within the process.
1041
01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:31,792
And so I think everybody
has to make their own call
1042
01:27:31,792 --> 01:27:33,834
as to what they're willing
to do.
1043
01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:42,792
Being trans,
being queer as a kid...
1044
01:27:45,458 --> 01:27:47,041
...being unwanted
1045
01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:48,917
and being unloved...
1046
01:27:48,917 --> 01:27:52,125
being not cared about...
1047
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,542
...I've always felt
a close connection
1048
01:27:56,542 --> 01:27:59,792
with the people
who are hurting the most.
1049
01:28:02,166 --> 01:28:03,750
If I wasn't exposed to that,
1050
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:05,959
maybe I could ignore it
or not see it.
1051
01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:07,542
But I can't.
1052
01:28:42,500 --> 01:28:44,542
I think Chelsea
will always be
1053
01:28:44,542 --> 01:28:46,417
looking over her shoulder...
1054
01:28:46,417 --> 01:28:47,834
♪ foreboding music ♪
1055
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:50,709
...for the rest of her life.
1056
01:28:54,542 --> 01:28:56,041
In this country,
once you've been marked
1057
01:28:56,041 --> 01:28:57,500
as an enemy of the state,
1058
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,291
I think you'll always be
an enemy of the state
1059
01:29:00,291 --> 01:29:02,375
and you'll always have to worry
1060
01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:05,083
that they'll find
some other reason.
1061
01:29:10,041 --> 01:29:14,625
There is this sense
of impending doom
1062
01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:17,917
that just never dissipates
and never goes away.
1063
01:29:27,208 --> 01:29:29,250
Chelsea Manning
is back behind bars
1064
01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:31,041
after refusing to testify
1065
01:29:31,041 --> 01:29:34,125
in an investigation
into WikiLeaks.
1066
01:29:34,125 --> 01:29:37,041
Manning can be held
for a maximum of 18 months
1067
01:29:37,041 --> 01:29:38,583
for refusing to testify.
1068
01:29:38,583 --> 01:29:40,667
Her attorney says
they'll likely appeal.
1069
01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:44,667
As everybody knows,
Chelsea has tremendous courage.
1070
01:29:44,667 --> 01:29:47,750
Our primary concern
at this point is her health
1071
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:49,583
- while she is confined.
1072
01:29:49,583 --> 01:29:52,959
Julian Assange's
arrest in London on Thursday,
1073
01:29:52,959 --> 01:29:56,417
inside Ecuador's embassy,
was done by British police
1074
01:29:56,417 --> 01:29:59,750
under a warrant from the
United States for extradition.
1075
01:29:59,750 --> 01:30:02,750
This is the charge
that he faces. Conspiracy.
1076
01:30:02,750 --> 01:30:05,333
Specifically related to hacking
a government computer
1077
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,917
and his relationship
to Chelsea Manning.
1078
01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:14,750
It was a perjury trap.
1079
01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:16,333
Oh, it is a perjury trap.
1080
01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:19,917
How do you think she's holding
up? Do you have any idea?
1081
01:30:19,917 --> 01:30:23,500
I'm worried and I think other
people are worried about her.
1082
01:30:24,458 --> 01:30:27,125
I'm really concerned now
about the...
1083
01:30:27,125 --> 01:30:30,333
that they're holding her
in solitary.
1084
01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,625
The grand jury can go for what?
About 18 months.
1085
01:30:32,625 --> 01:30:34,542
And then they can start
all over again.
1086
01:30:34,542 --> 01:30:37,125
- They could.
- They can go forever.
1087
01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:39,542
She's gonna have to
do something to...
1088
01:30:39,542 --> 01:30:43,125
motivate herself
to go through this.
1089
01:30:43,125 --> 01:30:44,750
♪ tense music ♪
1090
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:07,834
It's never gonna stop.
1091
01:31:07,834 --> 01:31:09,750
They're not gonna stop.
1092
01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:14,375
It's not gonna stop
until we stop them.
1093
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:18,542
"Deep Space Probe"
1094
01:31:31,583 --> 01:31:35,542
♪ I used to be silent ♪
1095
01:31:35,542 --> 01:31:38,375
♪ Now I am ready ♪
1096
01:31:38,375 --> 01:31:41,166
♪ To let it all ♪
1097
01:31:42,542 --> 01:31:46,250
♪ Let it all out ♪
1098
01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:51,125
♪ There's a sadness in me ♪
1099
01:31:52,208 --> 01:31:55,083
♪ I cannot control ♪
1100
01:31:55,083 --> 01:31:57,375
♪ I let it all ♪
1101
01:31:59,375 --> 01:32:02,709
♪ Let it all out ♪
1102
01:32:05,166 --> 01:32:07,041
♪ Out on the streets ♪
1103
01:32:09,250 --> 01:32:12,542
♪ On the stupid and the weak ♪
1104
01:32:14,375 --> 01:32:16,375
♪ You can hold me now ♪
1105
01:32:18,291 --> 01:32:20,125
♪ You can hold me now ♪
1106
01:32:20,125 --> 01:32:24,083
♪ Let it all ♪
1107
01:32:28,083 --> 01:32:32,458
♪ Let it all ♪
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