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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,786 --> 00:00:05,527 BRAD: Every property Charles Hackley developed, 2 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:07,181 there's rumors of tunnels. 3 00:00:07,224 --> 00:00:09,922 Charles Hackley and the idea of the Confederate gold 4 00:00:09,966 --> 00:00:11,620 was not speculation. 5 00:00:11,663 --> 00:00:14,623 Could Edwin Stanton have been connected to Charles Hackley? 6 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:16,407 It's a strong possibility. 7 00:00:16,451 --> 00:00:18,540 And Stanton was involved in the murder of Abraham Lincoln? 8 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:20,063 -Yes. -Wow. 9 00:00:20,107 --> 00:00:21,891 11 feet across. 10 00:00:21,934 --> 00:00:24,067 -Six feet wide. -That's what we're looking for. 11 00:00:24,111 --> 00:00:26,591 I'm getting a bad feeling about these waves. 12 00:00:26,635 --> 00:00:29,072 Holy... [screams] 13 00:00:29,116 --> 00:00:31,031 ♪ 14 00:00:48,091 --> 00:00:50,615 NARRATOR: In Muskegon, Michigan... 15 00:00:50,659 --> 00:00:53,053 -KEVIN: Hey, guys. -Hey, there they are right now. -Hey. 16 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:55,011 NARRATOR: ...treasure hunter Kevin Dykstra, 17 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:57,013 his brother Al 18 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,885 and underwater imaging expert Brian Abbott 19 00:00:59,929 --> 00:01:02,540 have gathered for an important meeting 20 00:01:02,584 --> 00:01:04,542 with members of Kevin's team. 21 00:01:04,586 --> 00:01:06,762 They are eager to discuss the results 22 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:09,199 not only from recent diving efforts 23 00:01:09,243 --> 00:01:11,810 at the bottom of Lake Michigan, 24 00:01:11,854 --> 00:01:13,551 but also from Kevin's trip last week 25 00:01:13,595 --> 00:01:15,162 to the Chennault Plantation 26 00:01:15,205 --> 00:01:17,903 in Washington, Georgia. 27 00:01:17,947 --> 00:01:19,688 Boy, we got a lot of stuff to go over, guys. 28 00:01:19,731 --> 00:01:22,691 We had a very productive time down there in Georgia. 29 00:01:22,734 --> 00:01:25,389 It was like being in a 300-acre time capsule. 30 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:27,130 You guys are not gonna believe 31 00:01:27,174 --> 00:01:29,480 -what we discovered down there. -Well, let's hear it. 32 00:01:29,524 --> 00:01:31,526 This was the well-known site from the Civil War 33 00:01:31,569 --> 00:01:34,137 where a lot of gold and silver went missing. 34 00:01:34,181 --> 00:01:36,618 And, so, these guys were down in the creek, 35 00:01:36,661 --> 00:01:39,316 where Gary Drayton had a ton of success. 36 00:01:41,188 --> 00:01:43,973 NARRATOR: Last week, Kevin, Al and Brad, 37 00:01:44,016 --> 00:01:47,455 along with Marty Lagina's son Alex 38 00:01:47,498 --> 00:01:50,414 and metal detection expert Gary Drayton, 39 00:01:50,458 --> 00:01:52,895 traveled to the grounds of what was once 40 00:01:52,938 --> 00:01:56,725 the Chennault Plantation in Washington, Georgia. 41 00:01:56,768 --> 00:01:59,075 -That's the one we want to hit. -Yep. 42 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:00,685 That'll be the golden bucket. 43 00:02:00,729 --> 00:02:02,731 NARRATOR: They were following up on a tip 44 00:02:02,774 --> 00:02:04,994 from one of the Chennault family descendants 45 00:02:05,037 --> 00:02:07,039 who claimed that gold coins 46 00:02:07,083 --> 00:02:09,433 and other evidence of Confederate treasure 47 00:02:09,477 --> 00:02:11,783 had been routinely found by her ancestors 48 00:02:11,827 --> 00:02:15,047 near an old creek bed on the property. 49 00:02:15,091 --> 00:02:17,528 -I got a ring! -AL: Oh, yes! 50 00:02:17,572 --> 00:02:19,269 GARY: That is a silver ring, 51 00:02:19,313 --> 00:02:21,532 -and that looks like an oldie, as well. -Wow! 52 00:02:21,576 --> 00:02:23,273 I mean, it was huge. 53 00:02:23,317 --> 00:02:25,449 It was just, like, a treasure trove of artifacts. 54 00:02:25,493 --> 00:02:27,451 All kinds of evidence. It just was really 55 00:02:27,495 --> 00:02:30,498 a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to dig on a place like that. 56 00:02:30,541 --> 00:02:32,761 -A lot of stuff here, isn't there? -Wow. 57 00:02:32,804 --> 00:02:35,067 -Whoa. -That is amazing. 58 00:02:35,111 --> 00:02:37,679 NARRATOR: The story of the Chennault Plantation, 59 00:02:37,722 --> 00:02:40,247 along with the evidence Kevin and the team found 60 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:42,118 during their visit there, 61 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:45,774 supports Kevin's belief that at the end of the Civil War, 62 00:02:45,817 --> 00:02:48,646 portions of the Confederate treasury were scattered 63 00:02:48,690 --> 00:02:51,867 and then hidden throughout North America. 64 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:54,609 Look at all this history that took place on our property. 65 00:02:54,652 --> 00:02:56,480 That's just so exciting. 66 00:02:56,524 --> 00:02:59,918 When we set all that stuff out on that table 67 00:02:59,962 --> 00:03:01,833 and Dan O'Leary saw all those artifacts... 68 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:03,661 -Mm-hmm. -...I think he said, 69 00:03:03,705 --> 00:03:05,402 -"I'm gonna go buy my own metal detector." -Yeah. 70 00:03:05,446 --> 00:03:07,056 -He did, too. -BRAD: He did, too. That's right. 71 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:09,232 -[laughs] -So, what did you guys get done? 72 00:03:09,276 --> 00:03:12,714 We got one dive in, uh, with some finds, 73 00:03:12,757 --> 00:03:14,846 but we ended up having some really crazy weather. 74 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:16,152 -No kidding. -KEVIN: Were you able 75 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:18,328 to get any sector scanning done? 76 00:03:18,372 --> 00:03:21,026 Yeah, we got a few drops done, and I'd like to pull them out 77 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:23,768 -and show you what I've got. -Oh, great. 78 00:03:23,812 --> 00:03:26,815 NARRATOR: While Kevin and his team were in Georgia... 79 00:03:26,858 --> 00:03:29,078 BRIAN: Diver in the water. 80 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:32,429 ...Brian, Jeff Zehr, Frederick J. Monroe 81 00:03:32,473 --> 00:03:34,649 and Kevin's youngest brother, Darren, 82 00:03:34,692 --> 00:03:36,216 continued searching the bottom 83 00:03:36,259 --> 00:03:39,175 of Lake Michigan for additional evidence 84 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:41,917 of a 19th century boxcar that Kevin's research 85 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,919 has led him to believe was deliberately dumped 86 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:46,269 into the lake while filled 87 00:03:46,313 --> 00:03:48,445 with millions in stolen Confederate gold. 88 00:03:51,883 --> 00:03:54,321 Get ready to deploy the sonar. 89 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:57,062 NARRATOR: Although Kevin had already applied 90 00:03:57,106 --> 00:03:59,239 for the necessary permissions that would allow 91 00:03:59,282 --> 00:04:02,677 his team to excavate previously chosen areas, 92 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,809 he is hoping 93 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:07,421 that he can amend his permits to include 94 00:04:07,464 --> 00:04:09,727 a number of debris fields that Brian Abbott discovered 95 00:04:09,771 --> 00:04:11,816 during last week's dives. 96 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:14,341 Wow, this is phenomenal, guys. 97 00:04:14,384 --> 00:04:16,734 How many images were you able to get? 98 00:04:16,778 --> 00:04:18,432 I probably got about ten images, 99 00:04:18,475 --> 00:04:20,347 but they're all from different drops 100 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:21,783 and different ranges. So, three drops 101 00:04:21,826 --> 00:04:23,828 with different ranges and so forth. 102 00:04:23,872 --> 00:04:26,266 I'll turn around here and, uh, show it to you guys. 103 00:04:26,309 --> 00:04:28,050 BRAD: You got some good pictures. 104 00:04:28,093 --> 00:04:31,401 BRIAN: Yeah. So, you can see, it's-it's clear. 105 00:04:31,445 --> 00:04:33,273 We were able to get some good distance out. 106 00:04:33,316 --> 00:04:36,058 This is only a 90-foot scan, 107 00:04:36,101 --> 00:04:38,626 but we've got thousands of targets down there. 108 00:04:38,669 --> 00:04:39,670 Excellent. 109 00:04:41,019 --> 00:04:43,065 KEVIN: So, with an image like that 110 00:04:43,108 --> 00:04:44,849 with all of those targets, 111 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:47,678 if we send somebody down there with a metal detector, 112 00:04:47,722 --> 00:04:49,637 could you guide them 113 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,074 -into those areas that need to be checked out? -Absolutely. 114 00:04:52,117 --> 00:04:54,772 -Yeah, as long as we have comms with the diver. -Excellent. 115 00:04:56,774 --> 00:04:58,515 BRIAN: We've got all GPS coordinates on this 116 00:04:58,559 --> 00:05:00,343 so we can verify where exactly this is, 117 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:02,258 and we can put you guys 118 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:06,001 back on these individual targets that are down there. 119 00:05:06,044 --> 00:05:08,743 Well, these look like some pretty significant targets. 120 00:05:08,786 --> 00:05:10,962 That one shot almost looked like a scatter-field. 121 00:05:11,006 --> 00:05:12,529 -BRIAN: Right. -I definitely think 122 00:05:12,573 --> 00:05:13,791 we need to investigate those targets. 123 00:05:13,835 --> 00:05:15,924 Mm-hmm. I agree. 124 00:05:15,967 --> 00:05:18,100 KEVIN: We are doing so much. 125 00:05:18,143 --> 00:05:20,189 We're covering so much ground, 126 00:05:20,232 --> 00:05:23,192 and we're moving forward in this permit process. 127 00:05:23,235 --> 00:05:24,672 Once we get that permit, 128 00:05:24,715 --> 00:05:26,804 the more areas we have to search, 129 00:05:26,848 --> 00:05:29,372 the better chances we have of finding that gold. 130 00:05:29,416 --> 00:05:31,374 I think we need to get up on the lake and start doing 131 00:05:31,418 --> 00:05:32,462 some more searching. 132 00:05:32,506 --> 00:05:33,855 Yeah. We will. 133 00:05:33,898 --> 00:05:36,379 KEVIN: All right, let's get to work. 134 00:05:42,254 --> 00:05:44,126 NARRATOR: The following morning, 135 00:05:44,169 --> 00:05:46,824 Kevin and Al arrive at the marina in Frankfort. 136 00:05:46,868 --> 00:05:49,000 They are eager to check out 137 00:05:49,044 --> 00:05:50,915 the areas where Kevin's brother Darren 138 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:53,396 and Jeff Zehr found what they believed 139 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,922 to be another promising debris field just one week ago. 140 00:05:57,966 --> 00:06:00,316 Did you check the waves at all? 141 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,752 KEVIN: It's gonna have to be pretty brutal 142 00:06:01,796 --> 00:06:03,798 -for us not to go out today. -AL: It's a good day 143 00:06:03,841 --> 00:06:06,148 -for treasure hunting. -Hey, guys. 144 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:07,976 -Hey. How are you, Kevin? How you doing, man? -AL: Hi, guys. 145 00:06:08,019 --> 00:06:09,194 -Brian. And you are? -Captain Luke. 146 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:10,631 Captain Luke? Nice to meet you. 147 00:06:10,674 --> 00:06:12,546 -Hey, Kev. -Frederick. 148 00:06:12,589 --> 00:06:13,634 -Let's go find some gold, huh? -[laughs] 149 00:06:13,677 --> 00:06:15,462 Let's get with it. 150 00:06:15,505 --> 00:06:17,464 [engine starts] 151 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:19,596 Our plan today is to go back to those areas where Jeff 152 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,206 and Darren got the sector scan hits 153 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:22,599 because it's really promising. 154 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:24,427 All right. We're good. 155 00:06:24,471 --> 00:06:25,950 KEVIN: So we're gonna have Brian Abbott 156 00:06:25,994 --> 00:06:27,865 try to put us directly on top of those 157 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:29,432 and then with the sector-scan 158 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:32,696 can guide us into those points of interest. 159 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:35,264 I can't wait to get out there and dive on those targets. 160 00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:38,528 -Looks like we got good seas out there today. -BRIAN: Yeah. 161 00:06:38,572 --> 00:06:40,791 I think so. We'll give it a shot and see what we can do. 162 00:06:40,835 --> 00:06:42,706 Why don't we get our sonar hooked up right now. 163 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:44,969 All right. Good idea. 164 00:06:45,013 --> 00:06:47,319 -Oh, it's all hooked up already. -Yep. Good to go. 165 00:06:47,363 --> 00:06:48,930 Would be nice if we could get, like, 166 00:06:48,973 --> 00:06:50,584 three or four dives in today. 167 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:53,108 NARRATOR: According to Kevin's theory, 168 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:55,066 in the late 1800s, 169 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:58,374 a boxcar containing stolen Confederate gold 170 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:01,943 was headed across Lake Michigan on its way to Utah 171 00:07:01,986 --> 00:07:05,816 when it was mysteriously pushed off the back of a ferry. 172 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:07,992 The enormous weight of the car 173 00:07:08,036 --> 00:07:10,168 combined with the weight of the gold 174 00:07:10,212 --> 00:07:13,084 would have caused the boxcar to shatter. 175 00:07:13,128 --> 00:07:15,913 It would also have created a large debris field, 176 00:07:15,957 --> 00:07:17,872 which, over the course of time, 177 00:07:17,915 --> 00:07:19,482 would now lie hidden 178 00:07:19,526 --> 00:07:23,443 under layers of silt and vegetation. 179 00:07:23,486 --> 00:07:25,967 Since the team began sector scanning 180 00:07:26,010 --> 00:07:27,621 the bottom of Lake Michigan, 181 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:30,319 Brian Abbott has been building a mosaic 182 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:34,018 of both potential dive and sonar drop sites. 183 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:35,585 But given the fact 184 00:07:35,629 --> 00:07:37,761 that the lake's underwater visibility 185 00:07:37,805 --> 00:07:40,677 can drastically change not only from day to day 186 00:07:40,721 --> 00:07:42,984 but from hour to hour, 187 00:07:43,027 --> 00:07:45,769 returning to the site and finding the debris field, 188 00:07:45,813 --> 00:07:48,032 even with the help of sonar scans, 189 00:07:48,076 --> 00:07:50,034 will not be an easy task. 190 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:55,039 I don't know if you guys can see. I see pretty good, uh... 191 00:07:55,083 --> 00:07:58,129 stuff crashing over the-the walls out there. 192 00:07:58,173 --> 00:07:59,870 What are they looking like? 193 00:07:59,914 --> 00:08:00,915 Probably six to eight. 194 00:08:05,572 --> 00:08:07,399 KEVIN: Oh, yeah, they are coming over the walls. 195 00:08:07,443 --> 00:08:08,879 AL: Yeah, that's not good. 196 00:08:08,923 --> 00:08:09,924 -KEVIN: Yeah. Oh! -AL: Oh, look at that one. 197 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:11,273 -KEVIN: Whoa! -AL: Holy cow. 198 00:08:11,316 --> 00:08:13,057 KEVIN: When we first get 199 00:08:13,101 --> 00:08:14,450 to the Marina and we look out 200 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:15,973 over the bay here, it's always pretty calm 201 00:08:16,017 --> 00:08:17,932 because we're kind of set down in a hole here. 202 00:08:17,975 --> 00:08:21,979 But you cannot use this bay as a guide. 203 00:08:22,023 --> 00:08:25,853 That big lake has 300 miles of lake water 204 00:08:25,896 --> 00:08:27,942 coming at you. You don't know what it's gonna be 205 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:29,683 until you get out of the breakwater. 206 00:08:29,726 --> 00:08:31,772 I don't like this, Luke. 207 00:08:31,815 --> 00:08:34,514 Yeah, let's head out a little further there, Luke. 208 00:08:34,557 --> 00:08:36,559 -It's deceiving from back there. -BRIAN: So, guys, 209 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:38,343 I know it's a little rough, so let's just take our time. 210 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:39,562 But I'd like to build the tripod, 211 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:41,782 get it set up, ready to deoy 212 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:43,087 and, uh, go from there. 213 00:08:44,654 --> 00:08:45,873 Grab some legs here. 214 00:08:49,398 --> 00:08:51,748 KEVIN: We're gonna deploy this, 215 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:53,576 but we're gonna have to get off the back of the boat there. 216 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:54,621 -I think we need life jackets on. -BRIAN: Yeah. 217 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:55,578 -All right. -BRIAN: Yeah. 218 00:08:55,622 --> 00:08:56,753 AL: All right. 219 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:57,972 -There you go. -Thanks. 220 00:09:01,453 --> 00:09:02,672 KEVIN: Al, why don't you 221 00:09:02,716 --> 00:09:04,413 come around this side here. 222 00:09:04,456 --> 00:09:06,023 -Okay. -I'll get on the back of the boat. 223 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:07,416 Okay. 224 00:09:07,459 --> 00:09:09,331 Go straight up. There we go. 225 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:10,593 -Okay. -Okay. 226 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:11,855 Hang on a minute. 227 00:09:11,899 --> 00:09:13,335 KEVIN: Nice. 228 00:09:13,378 --> 00:09:14,945 BRIAN: Watch yourself here. 229 00:09:14,989 --> 00:09:17,513 KEVIN: Yep. 230 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:18,906 Boy, I don't know, Al. 231 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:21,038 -[laughs] -AL: It's awful rough out here. 232 00:09:21,082 --> 00:09:23,040 KEVIN: It sure didn't look like this 233 00:09:23,084 --> 00:09:24,694 -was this rough on shore. -AL: No. 234 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:27,131 KEVIN: All right, guys. 235 00:09:27,175 --> 00:09:28,524 Let's, uh... 236 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:30,613 let's find our target area. 237 00:09:30,657 --> 00:09:32,267 AL: Let's do it. 238 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:37,185 KEVIN: All right. 239 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:38,795 There's a definite somet On a boat 240 00:09:38,839 --> 00:09:40,710 off the coast of Frankfort, Michigan... 241 00:09:40,754 --> 00:09:42,364 Hang on, guys. 242 00:09:42,407 --> 00:09:44,888 ...Kevin Dykstra, along with members of his team 243 00:09:44,932 --> 00:09:47,674 and underwater imaging expert Brian Abbott, 244 00:09:47,717 --> 00:09:50,111 are trying to relocate 245 00:09:50,154 --> 00:09:51,634 a possible debris field, 246 00:09:51,678 --> 00:09:54,550 one which Kevin hopes could be the location 247 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:58,989 of millions of dollars' worth of lost Civil War-era gold. 248 00:09:59,033 --> 00:10:01,252 Yeah, I don't know what's going on here, 249 00:10:01,296 --> 00:10:02,819 -but it scares me. -Yeah. 250 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:04,778 LUKE: We lost our GPS, Brian. 251 00:10:04,821 --> 00:10:06,388 -BRIAN: Did we? -LUKE: Yeah. 252 00:10:06,431 --> 00:10:08,042 BRIAN: Ah, [bleep]. Okay. 253 00:10:08,085 --> 00:10:10,174 KEVIN: We're losing the screen on our GPS. 254 00:10:10,218 --> 00:10:12,220 Yeah, we're-we're losing the signal. 255 00:10:12,263 --> 00:10:14,962 I don't know if it's these waves that are rocking things so bad. 256 00:10:15,005 --> 00:10:17,051 Yeah, we got a malfunction somewhere. 257 00:10:18,487 --> 00:10:19,706 Yeah, we... we got nothing. 258 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:21,446 -Now we got to... Oh! -AL: Oh! 259 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:22,926 BRIAN: GPS is going on the fritz here. 260 00:10:24,188 --> 00:10:26,103 AL: What's going on with it? 261 00:10:26,147 --> 00:10:28,758 We're gonna shut this right off. I don't want to damage it. 262 00:10:28,802 --> 00:10:31,195 -Can we guide him from the Lowrance? -Yeah. 263 00:10:31,239 --> 00:10:35,417 NARRATOR: Since the GPS unit on the boat is malfunctioning, 264 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:38,768 Kevin is hopeful that the team can still find their target 265 00:10:38,812 --> 00:10:41,771 by using a Lowrance sonar system. 266 00:10:41,815 --> 00:10:44,861 Sometimes referred to as "the fish finder," 267 00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:48,560 the Lowrance sonar system is primarily used by fishermen 268 00:10:48,604 --> 00:10:50,998 to track schools of fish. 269 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:54,262 It is Kevin's hope that it will also help guide the team 270 00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:56,699 to the same place where Jeff Zehr 271 00:10:56,743 --> 00:11:00,094 and Darren Dykstra made their previous dive. 272 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:02,096 How far away are we? 273 00:11:02,139 --> 00:11:03,575 -KEVIN: We're about 200 feet away. -AL: All right. 274 00:11:03,619 --> 00:11:05,186 -He's doing good. -Okay. 275 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:06,840 Are they gonna holler out at me when they...? 276 00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:08,102 Yup. 277 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:10,191 -Okay. -So if he and Brian 278 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:12,497 can get this boat over top of that waypoint, 279 00:11:12,541 --> 00:11:14,108 that's where we want to be. 280 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:15,587 Okay. 281 00:11:15,631 --> 00:11:16,719 Say when. 282 00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:17,851 Uh... when. 283 00:11:22,203 --> 00:11:23,508 KEVIN: Nice. 284 00:11:23,552 --> 00:11:25,467 BRIAN: Okay, good job, man. 285 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:27,208 NARRATOR: Now that the team has managed to locate 286 00:11:27,251 --> 00:11:29,297 what they hope is a debris field, 287 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:33,997 Kevin and Al will deploy the MS-1000 sector scanning sonar 288 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:36,173 in order to obtain three-dimensional images 289 00:11:36,217 --> 00:11:38,175 of a possible boxcar, 290 00:11:38,219 --> 00:11:41,831 or, perhaps, evidence of the stolen gold. 291 00:11:43,398 --> 00:11:45,443 AL: Okay. All right, it's going. 292 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:47,054 Okay, roger that. I'll start recording, 293 00:11:47,097 --> 00:11:48,751 -taking sonar data. -KEVIN: All right. 294 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,145 40 should be... All right, we're on the bottom. 295 00:11:51,188 --> 00:11:53,364 Roger that. On bottom. 296 00:11:53,408 --> 00:11:55,540 -Are you getting data now, Brian? -Yeah, I'm getting data. 297 00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:57,978 All right. Hold on. 298 00:11:58,021 --> 00:12:02,156 -Care if I come up and look at that screen? -Ah, no, man. Come on. 299 00:12:02,199 --> 00:12:04,767 -KEVIN: Ah, nice! -So, how many feet is that? 300 00:12:04,811 --> 00:12:08,510 KEVIN: Uh, we are 30, 60, 90, 120 feet away. 301 00:12:08,553 --> 00:12:10,512 We moved quite a bit in a short time. 302 00:12:10,555 --> 00:12:12,644 Yeah, we did. The wind's clipping pretty good. 303 00:12:12,688 --> 00:12:14,124 You seeing anything? 304 00:12:14,168 --> 00:12:16,561 KEVIN: There's a definite... something here. 305 00:12:16,605 --> 00:12:18,389 -That's a really... -What is that? 306 00:12:18,433 --> 00:12:19,782 BRIAN: It's got a weird shadow. 307 00:12:19,826 --> 00:12:20,957 It's kind of long. 308 00:12:22,393 --> 00:12:24,047 Ah, [bleep]. Geez. 309 00:12:24,091 --> 00:12:25,092 -Darn it. -KEVIN: It tipped? 310 00:12:25,135 --> 00:12:26,441 BRIAN: No, it's just... 311 00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:28,878 it's too much shaking. 312 00:12:28,922 --> 00:12:32,142 NARRATOR: When performing a scan, the MS-1000 requires 313 00:12:32,186 --> 00:12:35,015 anywhere from 30 seconds to two minutes 314 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,017 to make a full rotation. 315 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:38,670 During that time, 316 00:12:38,714 --> 00:12:41,804 the tripod must not be jostled in any way, 317 00:12:41,848 --> 00:12:46,113 or the scanned images may appear distorted and unclear. 318 00:12:46,156 --> 00:12:49,116 This makes scanning in rough conditions, 319 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:50,813 such as the high waves 320 00:12:50,857 --> 00:12:53,207 Kevin and the team are now experiencing, 321 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:56,297 a challenging, if not impossible, task. 322 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:58,865 KEVIN: You know, being out on the lake at this time of the year, 323 00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:00,605 it can change in an instant-- you know, 324 00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:02,825 you talk about being on a knife's edge right now. 325 00:13:02,869 --> 00:13:04,348 We could go out there, calm seas, 326 00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:05,828 and within just a few minutes 327 00:13:05,872 --> 00:13:07,787 it could work up into a full gale. 328 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:10,050 We're totally at the mercy of Lake Michigan. 329 00:13:10,093 --> 00:13:13,662 Okay, about another 20, 25 seconds. 330 00:13:13,705 --> 00:13:16,926 Al, I'll switch places with you. Can you come and look at this? 331 00:13:16,970 --> 00:13:17,971 All right. 332 00:13:19,189 --> 00:13:21,539 -You got it? -I got it. 333 00:13:21,583 --> 00:13:23,541 Slowly, let's bring our aft around, 334 00:13:23,585 --> 00:13:25,108 bring the stern around. 335 00:13:25,152 --> 00:13:26,936 This whole thing right here. 336 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:29,852 What is that? 337 00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:31,593 It's this area here and this in here. 338 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:33,421 Okay, it looks like something 339 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:35,510 -isbroke in half, don't it? -Yeah. It does. 340 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:38,034 NARRATOR: Is it possible that the team has actually located 341 00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:40,428 a portion of a boxcar, 342 00:13:40,471 --> 00:13:43,170 the same one that reportedly contained 343 00:13:43,213 --> 00:13:47,870 more than $140 million in stolen gold? 344 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:51,221 -Can we mark this location? -Yeah, I'll-I'll mark it. 345 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:53,049 Can you get a measurement as well? 346 00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:54,703 BRIAN: Ten... 11 feet across, 347 00:13:54,746 --> 00:13:56,748 five, six feet wide. 348 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:58,838 -AL: Did you hear that, Kev? -What? 349 00:13:58,881 --> 00:14:00,840 11 feet across by five or six feet wide. 350 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:03,625 -That's what we're looking for. -BRIAN: All right. 351 00:14:03,668 --> 00:14:06,758 KEVIN: We're really excited about this target we found. 352 00:14:06,802 --> 00:14:10,240 We know that a boxcar is approximately 35 foot long 353 00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:12,503 and approximately seven to eight feet wide, 354 00:14:12,547 --> 00:14:15,115 but we need to get down there onto that target 355 00:14:15,158 --> 00:14:17,378 and see what the exact size of that is 356 00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:19,902 to make sure that it is either a boxcar 357 00:14:19,946 --> 00:14:21,686 or possibly something else. 358 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,341 How you doing? 359 00:14:24,385 --> 00:14:25,995 We have a 150 foot 360 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,736 -of coil out now. -Roger that. 361 00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:29,738 Okay, another 30 seconds or so. 362 00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:32,001 So let's get ourselves secured, 363 00:14:32,045 --> 00:14:34,917 and we'll go back and we'll pick up the tripod and then move it 364 00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,964 -to our next drop location, okay? -Okay. 365 00:14:38,007 --> 00:14:39,530 Staying dry back there, Al? 366 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:40,967 -Not really. -Okay. 367 00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:42,142 You need anything? 368 00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:44,405 -Maybe my wet suit. -Yeah. 369 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:45,928 You know, I don't know what you think, 370 00:14:45,972 --> 00:14:47,930 but I think, you know, we got to seriously talk 371 00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:49,845 about getting down there-- that's why we're here, man. 372 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,369 I don't think it's safe. To be honest with you, 373 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:56,460 I think it's just getting too wild out here as a cowboy ride. 374 00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:59,724 I think it's a very, uh, dangerous situation to... 375 00:14:59,768 --> 00:15:01,770 put a diver in. 376 00:15:01,813 --> 00:15:04,338 Can we get at least one more scan around? 377 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:07,645 Guys, um, 378 00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,909 I think it's getting kind of rough. 379 00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:12,085 It's... it doesn't seem to be coming down. 380 00:15:12,128 --> 00:15:14,261 It actually seems to be building a little bit. 381 00:15:14,304 --> 00:15:17,394 And you're working right off the aft section of the boat. 382 00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:18,918 AL: Holy [bleep]! 383 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:22,486 Okay, all right. 384 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,793 -Hang-hang on. -You okay? -Yep. Yep. 385 00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:26,360 KEVIN: Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. 386 00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:28,579 All right, that's it. We're done. 387 00:15:28,623 --> 00:15:30,364 Okay, we're done. 388 00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:31,974 -AL: Yep. -BRIAN: You're good? You sure? 389 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,236 -Okay. -AL: Yup. 390 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,065 BRIAN: All right, here we go. 391 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:37,980 -KEVIN: That's brutal. -AL: Uh-huh. 392 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:40,983 KEVIN: I don't want anybody to get hurt on this. 393 00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:43,072 You know, chasing this gold with me is great, 394 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:45,292 but it's not great if people start getting hurt. 395 00:15:45,335 --> 00:15:47,163 BRIAN: So, let's get out of here. 396 00:15:47,207 --> 00:15:48,556 It's too... getting too crazy. 397 00:15:48,599 --> 00:15:50,993 -I've got the data I need. -All right. 398 00:15:51,037 --> 00:15:53,604 KEVIN: It's really frustrating knowing where that object is 399 00:15:53,648 --> 00:15:56,520 but knowing the lake won't let you get down there. 400 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:58,087 You don't want anybody to get hurt. 401 00:15:58,131 --> 00:15:59,741 You don't want to lose any equipment. 402 00:15:59,784 --> 00:16:01,656 You don't want to damage the boat. 403 00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,527 But I'm totally worried we're running out of time 404 00:16:03,571 --> 00:16:05,355 to find that gold on the bottom of the lake. 405 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,053 Watch the turn, Luke. 406 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:09,098 It's gonna get kind of dicey. 407 00:16:09,142 --> 00:16:11,100 We get one big wave hitting the back of this boat, 408 00:16:11,144 --> 00:16:12,449 and this thing's going down. 409 00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:13,581 Hang on. 410 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:18,978 NARRATOR: Although bad weather 411 00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:21,241 and rough water has forced Kevin to end 412 00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:23,025 today's dive operation... 413 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:25,419 -Whoa. -...he is hopeful 414 00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:28,465 that Brian Abbott's recently collected data, 415 00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:30,337 showing a possible debris field, 416 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,688 will eventually pay off in the weeks ahead. 417 00:16:33,731 --> 00:16:35,733 MONROE: Well, those waves are treacherous. 418 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:43,959 KEVIN: Here's my shop.CHAD: Talking about the Rebel Reward, 419 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,874 CHAD: Nice. 420 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,050 NARRATOR: One day after their aborted dive efforts 421 00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:49,617 in Lake Michigan, 422 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,271 Kevin Dykstra and his team, 423 00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:54,013 along with Alex Lagina, 424 00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:56,276 gather in Kevin's Muskegon workshop. 425 00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,930 Well, guys, we're all excited about this. 426 00:16:58,974 --> 00:17:00,976 NARRATOR: They're here to meet with Chad VanderVen, 427 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:05,285 a high-ranking member of the Freemasons. 428 00:17:05,328 --> 00:17:06,808 Well, guys, we got Chad VanderVen, 429 00:17:06,851 --> 00:17:09,115 who is a Mason, and he's agreed to come in 430 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:11,769 [laughs]: and share what he's able to... with us. 431 00:17:11,813 --> 00:17:13,554 Well, I'm happy to be here. Um... 432 00:17:13,597 --> 00:17:15,208 Are you in the Scottish Rite or the York? 433 00:17:15,251 --> 00:17:16,774 -Both. -Both? 434 00:17:16,818 --> 00:17:19,473 -Yep. 32nd Degree and Knight Templar. -Oh, wow. 435 00:17:19,516 --> 00:17:22,084 And currently I reside in the... 436 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:25,218 to my knowledge, the only rectified Scottish Rite lodge 437 00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:28,264 -in the United States. -No kidding. 438 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:31,006 NARRATOR: With connections that stretch all the way back 439 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,964 to the Knights Templar, 440 00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:36,011 the fraternal order known as Freemasonry 441 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:39,623 expanded across Europe and America in the 1700s 442 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:43,062 and continues to thrive to this day. 443 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:47,153 Originally formed as a secret society of master builders, 444 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:50,069 it has, over time, expanded 445 00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,635 into a large membership 446 00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:54,943 with strong ties to civic leadership. 447 00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:58,947 An estimated 14 of America's 45 presidents, for example, 448 00:17:58,990 --> 00:18:00,862 were members. 449 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:05,127 Known for their elaborate rules and mysterious rituals, 450 00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:07,347 Freemasons are also noted 451 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,263 for their use of various numeric codes and symbols, 452 00:18:10,306 --> 00:18:12,134 like the all-seeing eye... 453 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:13,962 the pyramid... 454 00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:16,138 the letter "G," which represents 455 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:18,619 the "Great Architect" of the universe, 456 00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:22,318 and the number 33, just to name a few. 457 00:18:22,362 --> 00:18:25,278 Based on his research, it is Kevin Dykstra's belief 458 00:18:25,321 --> 00:18:28,150 that several of the men connected 459 00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:30,935 with the transportation of gold and silver, 460 00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:33,677 taken from Jefferson Davis at the time of his arrest, 461 00:18:33,721 --> 00:18:37,855 from Irwinville, Georgia, to Muskegon, Michigan, 462 00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,771 had strong ties to Freemasonry, 463 00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:43,731 including Lieutenant Colonel Benjamin Pritchard, 464 00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:46,299 Colonel Robert H.G. Minty 465 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:50,912 and lumber tycoon- turned-banker Charles Hackley. 466 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:53,393 Chad, obviously you've got a lot of knowledge, 467 00:18:53,436 --> 00:18:55,525 and, you know, being a high-degree Mason, 468 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,137 you have a lot of secret knowledge, so... 469 00:18:58,180 --> 00:18:59,834 what made you decide to come here today 470 00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,532 -and share some of this with us? -AL: Or are you here to push us 471 00:19:02,576 --> 00:19:04,186 offthe right track? 472 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:05,666 [laughter] 473 00:19:05,709 --> 00:19:07,755 CHAD: Well, as a Muskegon native 474 00:19:07,798 --> 00:19:10,279 growing up hearing these stories, 475 00:19:10,323 --> 00:19:13,152 I think it's safe to say that I am just as curious as you are. 476 00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:17,765 And also wanted to lend my Masonic experience 477 00:19:17,808 --> 00:19:21,986 to help and maybe to set the record straight on things. 478 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:25,512 So, can we... can we kind of zero in on the project 479 00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:28,297 that we're working on, the Civil War? 480 00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:31,866 One thing that I had heard is that Charles Hackley 481 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:33,520 and the idea of the Confederate gold 482 00:19:33,563 --> 00:19:35,565 was not speculation. 483 00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:36,784 Many people talked about it. 484 00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,830 You heard that? 485 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:43,399 Yes. His wealth was always talked about. 486 00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,358 How much he was worth. 487 00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:48,665 How much the gift that he left to Muskegon had been worth. 488 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:51,625 I mean, he was the biggest man in town. 489 00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:57,544 NARRATOR: By the end of the Civil War in 1865, 490 00:19:57,587 --> 00:19:59,459 Charles Hackley was already 491 00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:02,766 a very successful Muskegon-based businessman. 492 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:07,206 But in 1870-- five years after the end of the Civil War-- 493 00:20:07,249 --> 00:20:09,686 his wealth grew exponentially. 494 00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,472 According to Kevin Dykstra's research, 495 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:14,561 Hackley's personal earnings during his lifetime 496 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:18,086 were estimated at $3 million. 497 00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:22,177 But at the time of his death, he donated some $12 million 498 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,614 to the city of Muskegon for the establishment 499 00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:27,965 of numerous institutions including businesses, 500 00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,532 a high school, 501 00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:32,361 a hospital and more. 502 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:35,321 Could Hackley's massive wealth be due to his involvement 503 00:20:35,364 --> 00:20:37,236 with the plot to steal 504 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,718 and then launder a fortune in Confederate gold? 505 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:44,765 It's interesting to consider why 506 00:20:44,808 --> 00:20:46,245 Hackley was building those things. 507 00:20:46,288 --> 00:20:47,985 Why do you think he did? 508 00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,857 At the time, 509 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:53,861 New England was the end-all, be-all 510 00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:57,299 of financial power and political power in the United States. 511 00:20:57,343 --> 00:21:00,563 And then you have a man like Charles Hackley, 512 00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,913 who's shrewd, ambitious, who says 513 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:05,699 that he wanted to take the power from New York. 514 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:08,354 Entire shiploads of people 515 00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:10,269 are being offloaded 516 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,444 into the country there. 517 00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:13,750 So the population explodes. 518 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,317 As a result, 519 00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,189 so does the number of representatives in Congress. 520 00:21:18,233 --> 00:21:20,757 Suddenly, New England has power. 521 00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:24,195 Suddenly, New England has the power to do as it wishes. 522 00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:27,068 One of the things that Hackley was doing, 523 00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:29,940 they were actually sending teams out to New York 524 00:21:29,984 --> 00:21:33,553 to recruit these immigrants as they got off the boat. 525 00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,903 "Would you like a job? 'Cause I can get you on a train 526 00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,471 to Michigan. Your whole family." 527 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:41,125 KEVIN: Listening to Chad tell me all this stuff, 528 00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:44,346 it really instilled in me that Charles Hackley had a plan. 529 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:48,394 He was gonna build a city that rivaled New York or Boston. 530 00:21:48,437 --> 00:21:51,310 And to do that, you needed a lot of money. 531 00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:53,529 And I think Charles Hackley had it. 532 00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:55,226 Growing up, I heard people like 533 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:57,228 my great-uncle and my grandfather 534 00:21:57,272 --> 00:21:58,795 talking about the Rebel Reward. 535 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:01,624 It's not the rebel treasure. 536 00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:03,583 It's not the Confederate gold. 537 00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:06,150 It's a reward. A reward for what? 538 00:22:06,194 --> 00:22:07,674 -What was the reward for? -For the capture 539 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,197 of Jefferson Davis. 540 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,199 No, it was never reported. 541 00:22:11,242 --> 00:22:12,461 It wasn't given by Lincoln. 542 00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:13,723 They got a hearty handshake 543 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,246 and a "thank you very much." 544 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:17,553 -Barely. -What do you think? 545 00:22:17,597 --> 00:22:20,034 A reward for helping get the rest of the money out. 546 00:22:21,514 --> 00:22:23,864 Hackley saw an opportunity. 547 00:22:23,907 --> 00:22:26,257 Think about it in terms of this: there's no guards. 548 00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:28,782 He's captured at this remote farm, 549 00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:30,523 with nothing and no one around, 550 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:32,307 with a field in the middle of the woods. 551 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,309 Nobody took the gold. 552 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:35,832 Nobody stole the gold. 553 00:22:35,876 --> 00:22:37,138 They received it. 554 00:22:37,181 --> 00:22:40,184 That the 4th Michigan Cavalry 555 00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:41,664 took possession of that gold 556 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:43,579 and brought it back here. 557 00:22:43,623 --> 00:22:45,973 That was an exchange that was preplanned. 558 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:47,496 It was a thank-you. 559 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,064 It was a payment for services rendered. 560 00:22:51,935 --> 00:22:54,242 NARRATOR: A payment for services rendered? 561 00:22:54,285 --> 00:22:57,941 But, if so, who was authorizing the payment? 562 00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:01,684 Was it Charles Hackley or someone else? 563 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:04,513 Possibly someone much higher up 564 00:23:04,557 --> 00:23:06,515 and with the authority to engineer 565 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,214 a top secret plot of national proportions. 566 00:23:10,258 --> 00:23:13,261 So, do you believe yourself 567 00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,742 that Charles Hackley used that Confederate gold 568 00:23:15,785 --> 00:23:17,787 to-to help build Muskegon? 569 00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:20,442 I believe that that is very possible. 570 00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:22,618 The extent of Hackley's wealth 571 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:24,664 during these years was hard to determine. 572 00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:26,492 KEVIN: It's so interesting to see that 573 00:23:26,535 --> 00:23:29,364 we-we look at all of these structures 574 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,280 that Hackley built, that he paid for. 575 00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:34,151 He had far-reaching plans. 576 00:23:34,195 --> 00:23:38,286 I mean, if he's sending people to New York 577 00:23:38,329 --> 00:23:41,463 to grab people and send them back home, 578 00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:43,160 the structures are one thing. 579 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:45,467 The infrastructure took more work. 580 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:47,034 BRAD: Speaking of infrastructure, 581 00:23:47,077 --> 00:23:48,688 Chad, have you heard of any secret passageways 582 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:50,733 or tunnels in Muskegon? 583 00:23:50,777 --> 00:23:53,606 My father used to work 584 00:23:53,649 --> 00:23:56,913 back when the Red Cross would do blood collections. 585 00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:59,046 BRAD: Right. Yeah. 586 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:01,701 And part of his job was taking the blood that was collected 587 00:24:01,744 --> 00:24:03,920 to the cold storage. 588 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:05,661 In the winter, he said-- 589 00:24:05,705 --> 00:24:07,271 he always said that he used a tunnel. 590 00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:10,579 NARRATOR: A tunnel? 591 00:24:10,623 --> 00:24:14,235 During the past two years, Kevin and his team 592 00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:15,758 have been searching for the means 593 00:24:15,802 --> 00:24:17,412 by which Charles Hackley 594 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,284 was able to secretly transport gold, 595 00:24:20,328 --> 00:24:23,113 first, from Irwinville, Georgia, 596 00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:26,465 and then to various locations and banks in Muskegon, 597 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:29,990 before shipping it out of town by ferryboat. 598 00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:33,950 So far, Kevin has successfully established the existence 599 00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:37,519 of underground tunnels beneath one of Hackley's former banks 600 00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:41,349 and even one connecting Hackley's 19th century mansion 601 00:24:41,392 --> 00:24:45,353 to the nearby home of one of his closest associates. 602 00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:47,877 -KEVIN: Look at that. -BRAD: Look at that. Nice! 603 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,923 Could an even larger network 604 00:24:49,966 --> 00:24:53,535 of secret tunnels also exist throughout Muskegon? 605 00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,755 BRAD: In Muskegon, 606 00:24:55,798 --> 00:24:57,321 where Hackley built the school, 607 00:24:57,365 --> 00:24:58,975 the superintendent approached me recently and said 608 00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:01,456 his mother told him when he was a boy 609 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,458 there was "a catacomb" of tunnels in this town. 610 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,504 Really? 611 00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:07,288 You think these tunnels were built at the same time 612 00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:09,986 -that high school was built? -BRAD: We do. The tunnels are 613 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,902 from the time of the construction of the school. 614 00:25:12,946 --> 00:25:15,122 KEVIN: I think the main purpose of the tunnels 615 00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:17,777 were to move that gold around undetected. 616 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:18,952 We got to check that out. 617 00:25:18,995 --> 00:25:20,475 Yeah. 618 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,172 You know, it feels like 619 00:25:22,216 --> 00:25:23,870 the deeper we dig into this, 620 00:25:23,913 --> 00:25:26,568 the more that we start pulling back 621 00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,091 these layers, it seems 622 00:25:28,135 --> 00:25:31,268 to feel that there's a lot more, 623 00:25:31,312 --> 00:25:33,053 because you don't know how much is there. 624 00:25:33,096 --> 00:25:35,272 You have answered a lot of questions, 625 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:36,883 but you've-you've raised 626 00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,276 -some questions as well. -I think I've created a few. 627 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,539 [birds chirping] 628 00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,546 In Muskegon, Michigan...BRAD: Look at this, you guys.OR: 629 00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:49,591 JEFF: We got to go to the front of the school. Yeah. 630 00:25:49,635 --> 00:25:51,158 Oh, okay. So, you're just gonna go up here 631 00:25:51,201 --> 00:25:52,594 to the stop sign and turn right. 632 00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:53,943 NARRATOR: ...researchers Brad Richards 633 00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,293 and Jeff Zehr are driving 634 00:25:56,337 --> 00:25:58,034 -to Muskegon High School. -Here's the football field. 635 00:25:58,078 --> 00:25:59,427 -Is that where we're going? -Yep. Yep. That's where 636 00:25:59,470 --> 00:26:01,298 -we're going. -They are hoping to find out 637 00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:03,300 more information about a reported network 638 00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:05,041 of underground tunnels 639 00:26:05,085 --> 00:26:07,870 linking the high school to a number of other buildings 640 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,829 built by lumber tycoon-turned-banker 641 00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:11,700 Charles Hackley, 642 00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:15,269 tunnels which Kevin and his team believe 643 00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:18,620 may have been instrumental in a plot to secretly launder 644 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:23,843 and then transport millions in stolen Confederate gold. 645 00:26:23,886 --> 00:26:26,454 JEFF: Be as that this is your neck of the woods, 646 00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,761 tell me more about the school. 647 00:26:28,804 --> 00:26:30,763 Hackley created the Hackley Manual Training School, 648 00:26:30,806 --> 00:26:33,156 Muskegon High School, so... 649 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,463 -Really did a lot for the town. -He did, he did. 650 00:26:35,506 --> 00:26:37,421 Now, where did the wealth come from? You know, that's what 651 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:38,988 -we're researching. -Right, right. 652 00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:42,078 NARRATOR: In the early 1890s, 653 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:46,605 Charles Hackley began donating an estimated $200,000-- 654 00:26:46,648 --> 00:26:49,520 worth almost $6 million today-- 655 00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:51,392 in order to finance the construction 656 00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:54,264 of numerous institutions bearing his name, 657 00:26:54,308 --> 00:26:57,572 including a hospital, a middle school, 658 00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:01,620 a high school, and also a manual training school, 659 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:05,536 a training school that also included a foundry 660 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,800 where metals could be melted down 661 00:27:07,843 --> 00:27:12,152 for the purposes of recasting them into different forms. 662 00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:14,633 According to Kevin Dykstra's research, 663 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:18,114 six wagonloads of Confederate gold and silver 664 00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:21,378 were smuggled from Georgia to Charles Hackley in Muskegon 665 00:27:21,422 --> 00:27:23,859 in 1870. 666 00:27:23,903 --> 00:27:26,775 However, since the coins and gold bars 667 00:27:26,819 --> 00:27:30,126 would likely have been stamped with the initials C.S.A., 668 00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:32,259 for the Confederate States of America, 669 00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,435 they would need to be disguised. 670 00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:36,785 Could it be that Charles Hackley 671 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:39,266 constructed his manual training school 672 00:27:39,309 --> 00:27:41,964 in order to melt the stolen gold 673 00:27:42,008 --> 00:27:44,445 and then transported it to other locations 674 00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:48,014 through a network of secret underground tunnels? 675 00:27:49,798 --> 00:27:51,104 So, this is the old high school. 676 00:27:51,147 --> 00:27:53,019 -JEFF: Right here? -1893. 677 00:27:53,062 --> 00:27:54,324 And then the Hackley Manual Training Center, 678 00:27:54,368 --> 00:27:56,631 the first of its kind in the nation, 679 00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:59,242 was built over here in 1897. 680 00:27:59,286 --> 00:28:02,071 -Hey, Justin. -Justin Jennings 681 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:04,726 is the superintendent of Muskegon Public Schools. 682 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,728 Thanks so much for meeting us. 683 00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,948 He recently contacted Brad when he became aware 684 00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:11,472 of Kevin Dykstra's theories involving 685 00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:13,126 -Charles Hackley. -So this is the, uh, 686 00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:15,302 -memorial here, huh? -This is the memorial. 687 00:28:15,345 --> 00:28:17,652 -JEFF: Wow. -JUSTIN: Kind of the center of everything here. 688 00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,393 -JEFF: Huh. -JUSTIN: Everything here is just Hackley. 689 00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:21,787 The school, the gym, everything over here. 690 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:25,181 -The Hackley Manual Training School. -JUSTIN: Everything. 691 00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:26,835 He put a lot of money into the city, so... 692 00:28:26,879 --> 00:28:28,663 So, it seems like, in the research, 693 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,404 when he built one building, he always built 694 00:28:30,447 --> 00:28:32,841 -another building. -Yeah. He only built things in tandems. 695 00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,103 -That's what it seems like. -Built things in tandems. 696 00:28:34,147 --> 00:28:35,626 -Right. -And there might have been tunnels 697 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,890 -between those two buildings. -That's the rumor. 698 00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:39,413 We've tried to find, you know, 699 00:28:39,456 --> 00:28:41,763 maps for the tunnels, but we can't find anything. 700 00:28:41,807 --> 00:28:43,896 -So, today, we'll-we'll get a chance to check 'em out. -Awesome. 701 00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:45,680 -Yeah. -JEFF: Well, we found lots of evidence 702 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,595 of tunnels elsewhere already, 703 00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:49,902 -but we haven't had anything we could walk through yet. -Okay. 704 00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:51,773 -This would be the first time. -Yeah. So if you could show us a tunnel we could 705 00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,297 -actually walk into, that'd be awesome. -Absolutely. Absolutely. 706 00:28:54,341 --> 00:28:55,864 -The tunnels are this way. -All right. 707 00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:57,257 -All right. Let's go. -Let's go. 708 00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:59,041 [chuckles] 709 00:28:59,085 --> 00:29:02,349 So, this is part of the old Hackley Manual Training School? 710 00:29:02,392 --> 00:29:04,394 -This is. This is the old weld shop. Yeah. -Okay. 711 00:29:04,438 --> 00:29:08,355 -[creaking] -JEFF: Let's see it. 712 00:29:08,398 --> 00:29:10,705 BRAD: So, these are kind of modern steps right here. 713 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,620 JUSTIN: Yeah, yeah. From the weld shop, so... 714 00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:15,449 BRAD: Okay. And as we get back farther 715 00:29:15,492 --> 00:29:17,494 into the recesses, we're gonna see some older stuff? 716 00:29:17,538 --> 00:29:19,409 JUSTIN: Yeah. It's gonna be hot. 717 00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:21,977 -BRAD: Hot? -Yeah. 718 00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,589 [Jeff chuckles] 719 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:27,417 -BRAD: Oh, my goodness. -JEFF: Well, yeah. 720 00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:29,245 JEFF: Is this what you're talking about? 721 00:29:29,289 --> 00:29:30,769 Or were you... 722 00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,249 -This is really old. -Whoa! 723 00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:35,686 Look at this. 724 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:37,863 This is the kind of architecture you'd expect to see 725 00:29:37,906 --> 00:29:39,778 -in the-- in the 1800s. -JUSTIN: Right. 726 00:29:42,128 --> 00:29:45,087 It's arched. It's, um-- There's not concrete. 727 00:29:45,131 --> 00:29:47,133 -That's brick. Old brick. -Really old brick, too. 728 00:29:47,176 --> 00:29:49,657 -Mm-hmm. It's crumbling. -We should get some pictures of this. 729 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,877 -Oh, yeah. -[camera clicks] 730 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,271 -That's a really cool picture. -Let's check to see 731 00:29:55,315 --> 00:29:56,664 -how far this goes. -Yeah. Let's check it out. 732 00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:57,883 -Oh, okay. All right. -Yeah. 733 00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:02,365 BRAD: Look at this, you guys. 734 00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:04,541 You can kind of see where the foundation 735 00:30:04,585 --> 00:30:05,934 -is crumbled. -Wow! 736 00:30:05,978 --> 00:30:07,631 Yeah. 737 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:09,503 These mechanicals here, 738 00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:11,157 -these are new. -JUSTIN: Yeah, these are new. 739 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,636 BRAD: This was not originally a utility tunnel, 740 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,596 -it doesn't look like. -No, not originally. 741 00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:19,948 NARRATOR: Because these tunnels were constructed in the late 1800s 742 00:30:19,992 --> 00:30:21,907 and weren't used to run utility cables 743 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:23,865 until several years later, 744 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:27,303 why were they constructed in the first place? 745 00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:30,916 What purpose would they have been designed to serve? 746 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:34,223 Was it to secretly transport millions of dollars' worth 747 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,138 of stolen Civil War gold, 748 00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:39,750 as Kevin Dykstra and his team suspect? 749 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:43,754 BRAD: This was a lot of effort, and it was not originally 750 00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:45,931 -a utility tunnel. -Yeah. Yup. 751 00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,672 Yeah, I wonder if there was ever, like, a set 752 00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,500 of rail tracks down here or anything 753 00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:52,763 that they could've pushed a cart on or anything like that. 754 00:30:52,807 --> 00:30:55,027 Um, just keep our eyes open, but this is an old tunnel. 755 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,637 Right. 756 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,769 -BRAD: So, why the expense? -We don't know. 757 00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,818 BRAD: These tunnels aren't big enough to do much in, 758 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,473 but they're big enough to cart gold or to hide 759 00:31:06,516 --> 00:31:09,302 from sight and to sneak around a city between buildings. 760 00:31:09,345 --> 00:31:10,694 JEFF: Do you think we're heading south now? 761 00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,087 JUSTIN: We're heading south, yes. 762 00:31:12,131 --> 00:31:13,610 -JEFF: Okay. -BRAD: We've gone a long ways. 763 00:31:13,654 --> 00:31:16,352 JUSTIN: Yeah, we're still under the street, so... 764 00:31:16,396 --> 00:31:18,311 BRAD: They said one of these tunnels 765 00:31:18,354 --> 00:31:19,921 went all the way to Hackley Hospital? 766 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:21,314 I think from his house. 767 00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:24,012 -Man! -Holy cow! 768 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:26,580 NARRATOR: Charles Hackley's house? 769 00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:29,191 Located nearly one mile away? 770 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:32,934 Could Jeff and Brad have just discovered the link 771 00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:36,329 between the tunnel they located under Charles Hackley's house 772 00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:39,941 three weeks ago and a network of tunnels connecting Hackley's 773 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:43,510 other buildings in downtown Muskegon? 774 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,775 JUSTIN: Really tight around here. 775 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:49,864 BRAD: Oh, wow. Look at this! 776 00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:54,347 Justin. Okay, look at the size of these walls. 777 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:57,916 JEFF: That's crazy. 778 00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,092 This definitely was built during the Charles Hackley era. 779 00:32:00,135 --> 00:32:01,528 This wall right here. 780 00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:02,964 They look like they tried to patch it up. 781 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:04,748 -Yeah. -But th-this is old right here. 782 00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:07,751 BRAD: What's going through my mind is, 783 00:32:07,795 --> 00:32:09,536 what secrets did these guys have? 784 00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:11,625 I'd love to get behind that wall, 785 00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,844 investigate this place further. 786 00:32:13,888 --> 00:32:16,282 -So, how far does that go? -It goes all the way over 787 00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:18,066 -to the school. -BRAD: Can we go? 788 00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:19,981 -Yup. -All right. 789 00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:23,985 This is crazy. We're underneath the street. 790 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:25,813 We're underneath the street of the city right now. 791 00:32:25,856 --> 00:32:27,162 JUSTIN: Yup, underneath the street. 792 00:32:27,206 --> 00:32:28,642 BRAD: That's crazy. 793 00:32:28,685 --> 00:32:30,165 Charles Hackley-- 794 00:32:30,209 --> 00:32:31,993 he put those tunnels in for a reason. 795 00:32:32,037 --> 00:32:34,082 JUSTIN: Yeah, we're in the steam room. 796 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:36,171 BRAD: And we need to get to the bottom of this. 797 00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:39,044 JUSTIN: I think this is the end, so... 798 00:32:39,087 --> 00:32:41,437 BRAD: Okay. So, we left the street 799 00:32:41,481 --> 00:32:43,352 and kind of ducked back into the high school. 800 00:32:43,396 --> 00:32:45,180 -Right. We're underneath the high school now. -Okay. 801 00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,052 That was quite a trip, man. 802 00:32:47,095 --> 00:32:48,967 -Can't thank you enough, man. -Thanks for coming. 803 00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:49,750 -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Great time. -Yeah. 804 00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:57,236 NARRATOR: The following day... 805 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,802 -KEVIN: Hey, guys. -ALL: Hey! 806 00:32:58,846 --> 00:33:00,456 NARRATOR: ...Kevin Dykstra and his team 807 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,198 gather at his workshop 808 00:33:03,242 --> 00:33:05,505 for a video conference with Marty Lagina's son Alex. 809 00:33:05,548 --> 00:33:07,289 -Well, let's hope he's here. -[laptop chiming] 810 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:11,728 -Hey, guys. -ALL: Hey, Alex. 811 00:33:11,772 --> 00:33:13,165 Good to hear from you. 812 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,644 Yeah, we've been... we've been busy. 813 00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:17,473 Did you get those photos that I sent? 814 00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:19,214 Um, yeah. The ones of the tunnel? 815 00:33:19,258 --> 00:33:21,260 Yeah. Jeff and Brad are here. 816 00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:23,479 They were actually in that tunnel. 817 00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:24,959 Tell Alex about those tunnels. 818 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,656 Well, Alex, uh, 819 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,529 Jeff and I got into some really, really old tunnels 820 00:33:29,572 --> 00:33:33,054 under the school that Charles Hackley built, 821 00:33:33,098 --> 00:33:34,969 and the tunnel, one of 'em, 822 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,667 headed towards Hackley's house. 823 00:33:37,711 --> 00:33:39,365 Do you... do you know, I mean, 824 00:33:39,408 --> 00:33:41,149 what-what was the purpose of these? 825 00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:43,891 You know, why do you think they're there? 826 00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:46,459 Well, right at the moment, they're-they've repurposed them 827 00:33:46,502 --> 00:33:48,983 with conduit and things for the school, 828 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,552 but you can see that it's the old, original tunnel that 829 00:33:52,595 --> 00:33:55,076 were used back in Hackley's time, um, 830 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,035 well, very likely to move gold around, 831 00:33:57,078 --> 00:34:00,995 to move themselves around when they didn't want to get seen. 832 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,301 I can tell you that putting tunnels underground 833 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,172 is not an easy thing to do. 834 00:34:04,216 --> 00:34:07,132 And I think that is a significant amount of effort. 835 00:34:07,175 --> 00:34:10,439 Um, and I'm having trouble thinking of reasons 836 00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:11,962 that you would need such a long tunnel 837 00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:13,268 if you weren't trying to do something 838 00:34:13,312 --> 00:34:15,140 out of the public eye, 839 00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:17,142 or-or something like what you're talking about. 840 00:34:17,185 --> 00:34:19,187 What Brad and Jeff did-- 841 00:34:19,231 --> 00:34:21,059 these tunnels-- man, that's huge. 842 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,191 AL: It's a home run. 843 00:34:23,235 --> 00:34:24,758 Well, guys, that's... that's really great work. 844 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:26,238 And great job finding those tunnels, and, 845 00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,066 Kevin, what-what is the plan 846 00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,329 as far as Lake Michigan goes? 847 00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,853 Well, we're gonna be watching the weather very closely. 848 00:34:32,896 --> 00:34:34,594 As soon as we get an opening 849 00:34:34,637 --> 00:34:37,336 in the weather, and hopefully, when we get that permit, 850 00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:39,294 it'll mesh together, 851 00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:41,862 and we'll get back to work on the lake. 852 00:34:41,905 --> 00:34:43,472 So, I guess that puts us in a little bit 853 00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:44,691 of a holding pattern, though, doesn't it? 854 00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:46,519 -Mm-hmm. -Yeah, just a bit. 855 00:34:46,562 --> 00:34:49,174 Well, I have some good news on that front, actually. 856 00:34:49,217 --> 00:34:53,265 I've come across an author and a reporter in Washington, D.C. 857 00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:55,005 by the name of Warren Getler. 858 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:58,096 He is a Civil War expert, 859 00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:00,881 and he's actually got some information that, 860 00:35:00,924 --> 00:35:02,926 you know, might blow your theory up 861 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,755 a little bit bigger than you had expected. 862 00:35:05,799 --> 00:35:08,236 Uh, he thinks he might be able to connect your theory 863 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,240 to Abraham Lincoln's Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton. 864 00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,199 Oh, wow. 865 00:35:14,242 --> 00:35:17,158 NARRATOR: Secretary of War Edwin Stanton? 866 00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:19,900 The man who served in Abraham Lincoln's cabinet 867 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,207 during the time of his assassination? 868 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:25,558 According to official Civil War records, 869 00:35:25,601 --> 00:35:29,997 the orders that members of the 4th Michigan Cavalry received, 870 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,695 which directed them to capture Jefferson Davis, 871 00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,829 originated in Washington, D.C., 872 00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:38,962 and from the office of Edwin Stanton. 873 00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:42,314 Could Alex Lagina have turned up a possible link 874 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:46,100 between Stanton and the plot to steal millions of dollars 875 00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:49,103 worth of Confederate gold and silver? 876 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,975 If you guys want to meet me out in Washington, D.C., 877 00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:54,239 sit down with Warren and kind of pick his brain 878 00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:55,805 -a little bit... -AL: Oh, wow. 879 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:57,111 I think while we can't do anything else, 880 00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,286 that'd be a great use of time. 881 00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:00,462 Well, Alex, that sounds great. 882 00:36:00,506 --> 00:36:02,421 Well, as-as awesome as that sounds, 883 00:36:02,464 --> 00:36:04,988 I got a lead on something potentially pretty big, too, 884 00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,860 I wonder if I shouldn't follow up on. 885 00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:09,341 -What is it? -There's a house right next 886 00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,169 to the Hackley-Hume compound 887 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:13,388 that I'm told has some very interesting things 888 00:36:13,432 --> 00:36:16,043 in-in its basement. Could follow up on that. 889 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,653 KEVIN: You know what? Let's-let's, 890 00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:19,264 um, split up and-and conquer. 891 00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:21,440 I think... I think Brad and Al, 892 00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:23,964 why don't you guys head to Washington 893 00:36:24,007 --> 00:36:26,271 with me, we'll meet Alex. Can Jeff...? 894 00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:28,838 -Yeah. -Can you and Fred go investigate that? That way, 895 00:36:28,882 --> 00:36:31,058 we can get things done on two different fronts. 896 00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:34,627 Well, that sounds great, guys. I will see you in D.C. 897 00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:36,411 And Jeff, Fred, I can't wait to hear what you guys find out. 898 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:37,847 -Great. -We'll let you know. 899 00:36:37,891 --> 00:36:39,327 KEVIN: Excellent. Well, safe travels. 900 00:36:39,371 --> 00:36:42,200 -We'll meet you in D.C. -All right. We'll see you soon. 901 00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:43,331 KEVIN: That sounds like a great plan. 902 00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:44,376 Let's, uh... let's get packing. 903 00:36:49,294 --> 00:36:51,209 nference 904 00:36:51,252 --> 00:36:53,123 in Muskegon, Michigan... 905 00:36:53,167 --> 00:36:54,777 BRAD: And there's the Lincoln Monument. 906 00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,388 -We're not in Michigan anymore, boys. -Oh, wow. 907 00:36:56,431 --> 00:36:58,520 ...Kevin Dykstra, along with his brother Al, 908 00:36:58,564 --> 00:37:02,220 history teacher Brad Richards 909 00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:04,570 and Alex Lagina have gathered in Washington, D.C. 910 00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:08,878 for what promises to be an important meeting. 911 00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:10,445 What I think is amazing is the search 912 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:12,273 that we've taken so far. I mean, look at. 913 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,536 Now we're in Washington searching more stuff out. 914 00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:16,059 Oh, this is pretty exciting to, uh, 915 00:37:16,103 --> 00:37:17,757 have a chance to meet with Warren Getler. 916 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,976 Uh, I've talked with him a little bit, and 917 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:21,804 he's got some really interesting information. 918 00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:23,110 All right, boys. Here we are-- 919 00:37:23,153 --> 00:37:25,112 Warren Getler's office. 920 00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:26,418 ALEX: Well done. Thanks for driving. 921 00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:27,462 -AL: Excellent. -KEVIN: Excellent. 922 00:37:32,772 --> 00:37:36,123 NARRATOR: Warren Getler is an author and investigative journalist 923 00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:39,300 who has spent more than two decades researching and writing 924 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:41,650 about the Civil War and the period that followed. 925 00:37:41,694 --> 00:37:43,130 -Come on in, guys. -All right. 926 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:44,784 NARRATOR: In 2003, 927 00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:47,961 he coauthored a book entitled, Rebel Gold, 928 00:37:48,004 --> 00:37:50,093 which documents evidence 929 00:37:50,137 --> 00:37:52,966 that numerous Confederate treasures remain buried 930 00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:55,490 across the United States today. 931 00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:57,405 WARREN: Great to have you guys. 932 00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:58,928 Grab a seat. 933 00:37:58,972 --> 00:38:00,365 -Wow. -Wow! 934 00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:02,410 [Warren chuckles] 935 00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:04,412 WARREN: It's... I'm so glad to see you. 936 00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:06,284 Great fan of what you guys have been doing. Your research 937 00:38:06,327 --> 00:38:08,242 -is phenomenal. -You know, the-the research 938 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,113 has been huge in this project, 939 00:38:10,157 --> 00:38:12,942 but it seems like the more people hear about the research, 940 00:38:12,986 --> 00:38:14,553 the more people that reach out to us. 941 00:38:14,596 --> 00:38:16,076 You know, like you and Alex 942 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,860 -hooking up and setting this up. -Mm-hmm. 943 00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:20,733 -What got you into this? What... -Oh, wow. 944 00:38:20,776 --> 00:38:22,996 -What made you do all this? -Right, so I was 945 00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,651 an investigative journalist for most of my career, and, um, 946 00:38:25,694 --> 00:38:28,828 I got wrapped up into this story that involved Stanton 947 00:38:28,871 --> 00:38:30,351 and a lot of other powerful figures. 948 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,266 History will tell us 949 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:36,357 that this man won the war with Lincoln for the Union. 950 00:38:36,401 --> 00:38:41,057 This gentleman Stanton is a very, very mysterious character. 951 00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,408 NARRATOR: Edwin McMasters Stanton 952 00:38:43,451 --> 00:38:45,627 was a lawyer and politician 953 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:47,586 who had served as attorney general 954 00:38:47,629 --> 00:38:49,370 under President James Buchanan 955 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:52,068 prior to the start of the Civil War. 956 00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:56,334 In 1862, he was appointed by Abraham Lincoln 957 00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:59,032 to be his secretary of war, the equivalent 958 00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:02,296 to what is now called the secretary of defense. 959 00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,821 As the civilian in charge of the United States military, 960 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:08,171 Stanton exercised great power 961 00:39:08,215 --> 00:39:11,392 during a time of national crisis. 962 00:39:11,436 --> 00:39:15,353 In my research, you had a very powerful contingent 963 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,398 of five or six major players, 964 00:39:17,442 --> 00:39:19,618 some of whom used to be in the Confederate cabinet, 965 00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:23,186 who were organizing events and organizing the financing 966 00:39:23,230 --> 00:39:26,059 of the Lincoln assassination and others. 967 00:39:26,102 --> 00:39:28,496 -Got it. -I think there's a real possibility 968 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:31,107 that Edwin Stanton was a major coconspirator. 969 00:39:34,763 --> 00:39:36,243 Are you saying that Stanton was involved 970 00:39:36,286 --> 00:39:37,723 in the murder of Abraham Lincoln? 971 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,942 -Yes. -Wow. 972 00:39:39,986 --> 00:39:42,249 Whoa. 973 00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:45,426 Could Edwin Stanton have been connected 974 00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,559 to Charles Hackley, who was a high level Mason? 975 00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:50,823 It's a strong possibility. Absolutely. 976 00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:57,612 NARRATOR: Has Kevin Dykstra and his team 977 00:39:57,656 --> 00:40:01,834 just made what could be their most important contact yet-- 978 00:40:01,877 --> 00:40:04,445 one that could link the plot to steal a fortune 979 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:07,405 in Confederate gold to the assassination 980 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,755 of America's 16th president? 981 00:40:09,798 --> 00:40:13,933 If so, then perhaps the treasure Kevin is searching for 982 00:40:13,976 --> 00:40:16,283 isn't only a monetary one, 983 00:40:16,326 --> 00:40:18,938 but one of great historical significance. 984 00:40:18,981 --> 00:40:21,157 One that possibly means 985 00:40:21,201 --> 00:40:23,986 that the conspiracy Kevin has been investigating 986 00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:26,467 and the treasure he's looking for 987 00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:28,904 might be considerably larger 988 00:40:28,948 --> 00:40:31,080 and more deadly 989 00:40:31,124 --> 00:40:33,909 than he and his team could ever 990 00:40:33,953 --> 00:40:35,737 -have suspected. -[gunshot] 991 00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:43,919 NARRATOR: Next time onThe Curse of Civil War Gold... 992 00:40:43,963 --> 00:40:45,443 I believe that there are 993 00:40:45,486 --> 00:40:47,053 potentially billions in gold 994 00:40:47,096 --> 00:40:48,141 hidden by the Knights of the Golden Circle. 995 00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:49,795 And it played out in Muskegon 996 00:40:49,838 --> 00:40:51,013 because of Charles Hackley. 997 00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,233 -He fits the profile. -Wow! 998 00:40:53,276 --> 00:40:55,627 AKRAM ELIAS: Here you're in the nation's temple. 999 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:57,498 I've always felt that the Masons 1000 00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:59,892 collaborated about the missing Confederate gold. 1001 00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:01,546 What gold? 1002 00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:04,331 -Vault number one. -Oh, my goodness. 1003 00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:06,942 Every history textbook in America has this wrong. 1004 00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:08,509 Absolutely. 1005 00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:10,511 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 74276

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