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- No mistakes on my watch.
Is that clear?
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- Mr. Garcetti, I have no
intention of losing Menendez.
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- Winning is a given,
Miss Ferrero.
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- Who was Lyle talking to?
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- It's Norma Novelli.
She puts out a newsletter
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for prisoners.
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After a lifetime of terror,
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these children were terrorized.
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- He threw me on the bed
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and--and he raped me.
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- When I was, uh, seven,
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he would put me on my knees,
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and I would have
oral sex with him.
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- We're here because
the defendants did this
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to their parents.
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- Erik and his brother
honestly believed
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their parents were
going to kill them.
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- It's the first day
of deliberations
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for both juries
in the Menendez trial,
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and as you can see, Menendez
fever is as strong as ever.
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[crowd cheering]
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And here comes the van
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carrying Erik and Lyle.
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Each morning, they'll be driven
from the county jail
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in downtown Los Angeles
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to the courthouse
here in Van Nuys
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to await the juries' verdicts.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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[crowd chanting, cheering]
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And we'll be ready
with live coverage
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the minute
those verdicts come in.
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- The whole time, I couldn't
wait for the trial to end.
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But now...
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[dark music]
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Do you think...
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do you think they'll vote
for the death penalty?
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- They decide that
during the penalty phase,
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and we're a long way from that,
honey.
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Right now, they're focused on
murder versus manslaughter,
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maybe even an acquittal.
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- When I was up there talking,
I could see Uncle Brian's face.
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He looked at me like
I was the lowest form of life.
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Even Aunt Terry.
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It's sad, you know?
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We used to be a family.
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- All those people, my friends,
who lied on the stand,
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Donovan, Glenn, Jamie.
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People really hate me,
don't they?
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- Don't punish yourself, Lyle.
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Try and stay positive.
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- I want to get out.
I want to prove to people
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that I can be different
than I was.
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That I can be better.
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*
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- Let's start with a vote.
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Just to see where
everyone's leaning?
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Raise your hand if--
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- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Raise our hands?
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I think we should have
a secret ballot.
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- Yeah.
- Who cares?
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- No, I'm with Paul.
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Everything in the open.
- I agree.
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- I agree.
So, once again,
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raise your hand
if you think Erik is guilty
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of first-degree murder
on both of the killings.
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Interesting.
Okay.
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Raise your hand
if you think Erik is guilty
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of voluntary manslaughter.
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- Okay,
that's six for manslaughter
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and six for
first-degree murder.
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- These other women got their
panties in a twist over Lyle.
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You and me know
he's a bad seed.
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- Okay, let's deliberate.
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- Look what I found.
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We can decorate the house for
when Lyle and Erik come home.
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- They're coming home?
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Is it decided?
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- No, Mama.
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That's not what Henry means.
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- [speaking Spanish]
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- Mama...you already have
more candles than the Vatican.
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Let's just pray
everything goes well.
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- [whispering]
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- Four days means the jury
can't make up their minds.
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Daddy, when are you coming out?
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Your grandson wants
to meet you.
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Just pick a date.
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We'll--we'll take care
of everything.
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Okay, love you too.
Bye.
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- I want a retraction.
- [sighs]
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- I did not cry
during my closing.
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Your reporter
wasn't even there.
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It was my client that cried.
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Check the Court TV feed.
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A retraction.
And don't bury it.
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[sighs]
Unbelievable.
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- Sorry that happened.
You want a hug?
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The press convicted the boys
years ago.
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They have to make us
look weak and emotional
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for defending them.
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I found some things
in the trial transcript
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that might be grounds
for appeal.
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- An appeal?
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You think they'll convict?
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- Let me know
if you want that hug.
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- "Points of fact in law."
What's this?
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- My 25 facts that prove
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Lyle should be convicted
of first-degree murder.
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- So now you're a lawyer?
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- [sighs]
Point of fact number one:
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if the boys really thought
their parents were going
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to kill them,
they could have looked through
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the family room window,
checked to see
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if their parents had guns.
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Point of fact number two...
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- What you think they should
have done isn't a fact.
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- [scoffs]
Sarah.
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You know I'm right.
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Your husband works in
the DA's office.
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Tell 'em.
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- I really think
you should listen
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to other people's opinions,
Dan.
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- Now, sit down, and let's have
a proper discussion.
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- Good luck.
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- Look, I don't want
to set a precedent here.
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But if these boys get off
with a slap on the wrist,
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every murderer
who kills their parents
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will say they were abused.
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- I don't care about
future cases.
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Our duty is to this case.
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- The prosecutor suggested
that Erik learned
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molestation details from some
kind of homosexual experiences.
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- Maybe he learned it
from having sex with Lyle.
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Right?
Maybe those two--
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- No, Erik's sexuality
has nothing to do
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with him being molested.
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- I don't buy
that whole abuse thing.
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- Erik's cousins said
he was abused.
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And those photos.
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Do you have photos like that
of your kids?
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I sure don't.
- Look, I think those boys
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could have pushed their dad
away if they wanted to.
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- Abuse isn't about
how strong you are.
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It's about the power they have
over your emotions.
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- Witness answers:
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"He told me his father
was massaging his pecker.
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"He wanted to know
if this happens to every kid
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with a father and son
relationship."
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- Thank you, that concludes
the read-back you requested.
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You may go back
to your deliberations.
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- Merry Christmas, your honor.
- Yes, merry Christmas.
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- Thank you.
Court is adjourned.
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- Hello, Detective.
- Counselor.
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[sighs]
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- Any plans for the holidays?
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- I was gonna take the kids
to Hawaii,
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but I gotta stick it out
until there's a verdict.
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It's the fourth time this year
I've had to push off the trip.
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- I am sorry.
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- Meh,
it comes with the territory.
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How about you?
How's the little one?
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- Yeah, he's wonderful.
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It's great to get
to spend some time with him.
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He's endlessly cute.
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But what baby isn't?
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[elevator bell dings]
- Right.
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And then they grow up.
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- Erik wouldn't need to
ask his cousin.
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Any kid would know it's wrong.
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- Not if you don't know
right from wrong.
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- How does he not know that?
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- Because the person who was
supposed to teach him that
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is the one who was molest--
- Where is the proof
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that José was doing that
to his sons?
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There is none.
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- We don't need
definitive proof.
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What we need is a--
- Oh, just stop talking.
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I'm sick of your voice.
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- Now, come on.
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- Just look at the way
the judge treats their lawyer,
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Abramson.
He doesn't buy it, either.
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- Why is it so hard
for you to believe?
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We know abuse happens
with coaches and priests.
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Are you scared to admit that
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it could happen between
a father and his own sons?
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- I'll tell you what scares me.
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This man José Menendez
pushed his kids,
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and so what?
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He worked hard
to put food on the table.
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And for what?
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So his kids could kill him?
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Is that what being
a good provider gets you?
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- I have two daughters.
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One's in college.
The other graduated last year.
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And this case...
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is making me sorry I spanked
them when they were little.
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- Well, I'm sure
your daughters turned out fine.
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- How far apart we are...
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it'll be a miracle
if we can agree on a verdict.
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- That's because
you're not facing the facts.
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Take this cousin Diane
Vander Molen, for instance.
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She said Lyle told her
he was being abused.
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She's lying.
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- Why do you say she's lying?
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- Because he didn't mention it
when he testified.
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He would've if it was true.
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- She said he was eight
when he told her.
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Maybe he doesn't remember.
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- That makes me believe her
even more.
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If they were gonna lie,
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you'd think they'd get
their story straight.
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- That's women's logic.
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*
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- [clears throat]
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I changed my mind.
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They were abused.
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That's what twisted them,
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twisted everything about them.
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- I get letters thanking me
for exposing the abuse.
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I get other letters that...
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[sighs]
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I shouldn't be surprised.
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I mean,
how can anyone forgive me?
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- God knows the truth.
He forgives you.
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- How can He?
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How can my parents?
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I want them to forgive me.
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- You have to start
by forgiving them.
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- I'm trying.
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I want to.
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- God loves you, Erik.
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- [sighs]
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*
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- In the name of the Father
and the Son
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and the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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- Thank you, Father.
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- Merry Christmas, Erik.
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*
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- Hey, Erik.
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*
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Do you remember
when Mom and Dad took us
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to see "A Christmas Carol"?
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Dad thought
the theater was so phony.
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But he did it because
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that's what high-class people
in Princeton did.
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- [chuckles]
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He fell asleep during the show.
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- [laughs]
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- I miss them, Lyle.
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- God, I miss them too,
little brother.
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*
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- [sighs]
262
00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:16,243
*
263
00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,413
.
264
00:11:20,447 --> 00:11:21,214
- My husband's under
a lot of pressure
265
00:11:23,383 --> 00:11:25,318
from the DA's office to get me
to vote one way or the other,
266
00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:27,454
but he thinks I should
quit the jury,
267
00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:28,922
but I can't.
268
00:11:28,956 --> 00:11:31,825
I've put six months
into this.
269
00:11:31,859 --> 00:11:33,426
- What the hell are you doing?
270
00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:36,063
- You're gonna see the results
of what those brats did
271
00:11:36,096 --> 00:11:37,831
so that things will be fair.
272
00:11:37,865 --> 00:11:39,166
- You cannot put up
some of the evidence
273
00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:41,234
and not all of it.
Take those down now.
274
00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:43,136
- No.
275
00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:45,072
I need them up
to refer to them.
276
00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,107
- Yeah well, pass them around
if you need to refer to them.
277
00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:48,876
Take them down or I will.
278
00:11:48,909 --> 00:11:50,210
- Hey, man, just because
you're the foreman
279
00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:51,745
doesn't mean
you're the boss of me.
280
00:11:51,779 --> 00:11:53,413
- That's exactly what it means.
281
00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:56,183
- Oh, hey, stop it.
[overlapping shouting]
282
00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:58,285
- You better step back.
Step back.
283
00:11:58,318 --> 00:12:00,253
- We've all been here
a long time.
284
00:12:00,287 --> 00:12:02,255
We all want
to get out of here.
285
00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:04,091
We all want to get on
with our lives.
286
00:12:04,124 --> 00:12:06,026
It's been over three weeks.
287
00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:10,798
Let's just do
what we're here to do.
288
00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:12,232
I've thought about it,
289
00:12:12,265 --> 00:12:14,935
and I want to change
my vote again.
290
00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:17,938
[tense music]
291
00:12:17,971 --> 00:12:25,178
*
292
00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:34,822
- So you're voting to convict
Lyle of second-degree murder?
293
00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:37,324
- Yes.
We're allowed to.
294
00:12:37,357 --> 00:12:40,360
- And that means
down the line he gets out.
295
00:12:40,393 --> 00:12:43,263
- And I think that's
a reasonable thing.
296
00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:46,299
- That ain't never gonna
happen, lady.
297
00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:51,471
- If Erik was
really being abused,
298
00:12:51,504 --> 00:12:53,373
he would have told Oziel.
299
00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:56,109
- No, José owned Oziel.
Erik knew that.
300
00:12:56,143 --> 00:12:58,511
- I'm sick of you women
talking about José and Kitty
301
00:12:58,545 --> 00:13:00,313
like they're on trial.
302
00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:02,883
They were good parents,
and society would be better off
303
00:13:02,916 --> 00:13:04,351
if more parents were like them.
304
00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:07,888
- They went to every one
of their sons' tennis games.
305
00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:11,058
You know who went to my
sports games when I was a kid?
306
00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:12,592
Nobody.
307
00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,462
What I would have given
to have had a dad like José.
308
00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:18,198
- Oh, my God.
- Are you kidding?
309
00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:20,433
- I--I feel sorry for you.
I do.
310
00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:23,003
But what has that got
to do with Erik?
311
00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:26,173
With--with reasonable doubt?
312
00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:34,114
- Let's do another vote.
313
00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:38,351
- And one of her eyes
was open.
314
00:13:38,385 --> 00:13:40,153
Kitty had these
bright blue eyes.
315
00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:42,055
She saw who killed her.
316
00:13:42,089 --> 00:13:44,992
The sons she gave birth too.
317
00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:46,359
This poor mother.
318
00:13:46,393 --> 00:13:49,129
[sighs]
I'm sorry, this is--
319
00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:51,231
This has been
a difficult case.
320
00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:54,101
- Erik's jury is coming in.
321
00:13:54,134 --> 00:13:55,368
Might be a verdict.
322
00:13:55,402 --> 00:13:57,304
- Excuse me.
323
00:13:57,337 --> 00:14:00,874
- Have you come
to a decision?
324
00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,410
- We have not, Your Honor.
325
00:14:03,443 --> 00:14:05,012
We're deadlocked.
326
00:14:05,045 --> 00:14:07,514
Our positions haven't changed
after three weeks.
327
00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:09,616
I see no hope
for reaching an agreement
328
00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:11,251
on any of the counts.
329
00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:13,486
I'm sorry.
We tried.
330
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,422
[courtroom murmuring]
331
00:14:17,257 --> 00:14:19,993
- What does this mean?
- Oh, it's good, honey.
332
00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:21,394
If Weisberg
declares a mistrial,
333
00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,363
I can try to get a deal
from the DA.
334
00:14:23,396 --> 00:14:26,366
- I understand
this has been difficult.
335
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,003
I know all of you have made
sacrifices over the holidays.
336
00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:33,140
But I'm going to ask you
to go back
337
00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:35,175
and to try and reach
a consensus.
338
00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:36,676
[dramatic music]
339
00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:38,178
- What?
340
00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:39,913
- You can't do that,
Your Honor.
341
00:14:39,947 --> 00:14:41,448
- Sit down, Ms. Abramson.
- You should consult counsel
342
00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:43,250
before giving
the jury instructions.
343
00:14:43,283 --> 00:14:45,052
- I'm fine with the
instructions, Your Honor.
344
00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:46,619
- I would like to know what
charges are being discussed
345
00:14:46,653 --> 00:14:48,388
and if first-degree murder
is off the table.
346
00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,290
- Please escort the jury
back to the jury room.
347
00:14:50,323 --> 00:14:52,025
- Your Honor,
this is unfair.
348
00:14:52,059 --> 00:14:54,427
You have been biased against
my client this entire time.
349
00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:56,196
- One more word, Ms. Abramson,
350
00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:57,931
and I will hold you
in contempt.
351
00:14:57,965 --> 00:14:59,466
[gavel bangs]
352
00:14:59,499 --> 00:15:03,503
*
353
00:15:03,536 --> 00:15:05,205
[indistinct murmurs]
354
00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:08,441
- That son of a bitch!
355
00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:11,611
Judge Weisberg
is the most high-handed,
356
00:15:11,644 --> 00:15:15,248
obnoxious judge I have ever
tried a case before.
357
00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:17,617
The Judicial Council
should be looking at him.
358
00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:21,321
Erik and Lyle have been
plagued by bad parents,
359
00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:24,057
a bad shrink,
and now a bad judge.
360
00:15:24,091 --> 00:15:27,460
It makes you wonder what the
next disaster is for this case.
361
00:15:27,494 --> 00:15:31,231
- An earthquake measuring 6.7
struck the Los Angeles area
362
00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:33,533
at 4:30 this morning.
- Reports of casualties.
363
00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:35,368
- Strong aftershocks
are still being felt.
364
00:15:35,402 --> 00:15:37,270
- Sections of the freeway
crumbled...
365
00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:39,072
- Entire apartment complexes
are collapsed.
366
00:15:39,106 --> 00:15:41,008
- Total devastation...
- The Van Nuys courthouse,
367
00:15:41,041 --> 00:15:43,176
site of the infamous
Menendez murder trial,
368
00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:44,577
suffered damages.
369
00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:47,981
- Until the damage
can be assessed and repaired,
370
00:15:48,015 --> 00:15:50,217
we'll set you up in here.
371
00:15:56,423 --> 00:15:59,059
- Oh, dear God, it smells
like sewage in here.
372
00:15:59,092 --> 00:16:00,760
- All right,
everyone grab a chair.
373
00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:04,031
- It stinks in here.
- We gotta wrap this up.
374
00:16:04,064 --> 00:16:05,632
- Oh, man.
375
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,641
- And how many
for voluntary manslaughter?
376
00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:17,644
[tense music]
377
00:16:17,677 --> 00:16:24,684
*
378
00:16:34,561 --> 00:16:37,230
- Everyone's put
so much into this.
379
00:16:37,264 --> 00:16:39,332
There are no 12 people
in the world
380
00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:41,201
who will ever be able
to hear the evidence
381
00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:42,635
in the way that we did,
382
00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:44,504
because so many people
followed this trial
383
00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:46,539
and are now tainted
by the media.
384
00:16:46,573 --> 00:16:49,109
We owe it to the court
to see if we can come
385
00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:50,677
to a unanimous decision.
386
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:54,681
So would those of us
currently voting first-degree
387
00:16:54,714 --> 00:16:57,150
or manslaughter be willing
to meet the others
388
00:16:57,184 --> 00:17:00,787
at second-degree?
389
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:02,322
Raise your hand.
390
00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:09,562
*
391
00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:28,848
Dan, there's 11 of us
willing to vote second-degree.
392
00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:32,852
We're gonna need you
to come down from first-degree.
393
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:40,260
*
394
00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:42,595
- We really tried, Your Honor.
395
00:17:42,629 --> 00:17:44,531
We went over all the evidence,
396
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:47,334
but we just couldn't
reach a consensus.
397
00:17:47,367 --> 00:17:50,237
- Are you absolutely sure?
398
00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:52,805
- Yes, Your Honor,
we're absolutely sure.
399
00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:56,743
We're at a complete deadlock.
400
00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:59,879
- You're positive?
401
00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:02,282
- Yes, Your Honor, positive.
402
00:18:02,315 --> 00:18:04,717
*
403
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:09,656
- Then I have no choice
but to declare a mistrial.
404
00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:12,259
Thank you for your service.
You are free to go now.
405
00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:15,128
The defendants are remanded
to custody.
406
00:18:15,162 --> 00:18:18,265
[courtroom murmuring]
407
00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:36,416
[overlapping chatter]
408
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,518
- On behalf of Lyle and Erik,
we want to express
409
00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:41,788
our gratitude to both juries
for their hard work
410
00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:45,258
in considering the issues
in this case.
411
00:18:45,292 --> 00:18:47,560
- Leslie, do you feel
like you won?
412
00:18:47,594 --> 00:18:50,163
- Well, victory would be
for Erik and Lyle
413
00:18:50,197 --> 00:18:51,764
to walk down the street,
414
00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:54,201
but I am glad that
Jill and I had a chance
415
00:18:54,234 --> 00:18:56,336
to shine a light
on a kind of abuse
416
00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:57,937
that people want to ignore.
417
00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,240
There are people who want
to deny it took place
418
00:19:00,273 --> 00:19:03,410
in a beautiful house in
Beverly Hills, but it did.
419
00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:06,546
We asked the jurors
to have compassion
420
00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:08,781
for two young men
who endured it, and they did.
421
00:19:08,815 --> 00:19:12,285
- Excuse me, Jill.
Will there be another trial?
422
00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:13,786
- Hopefully not.
423
00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:15,955
- Hopefully
District Attorney Garcetti
424
00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,225
will save the tax payers money
and offer our clients a deal.
425
00:19:18,258 --> 00:19:20,560
- I want Bozanich in here
as soon as she arrives.
426
00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:22,695
- Will you take that same
gamble in a retrial?
427
00:19:22,729 --> 00:19:24,964
- It's not about whether
it was a risky defense.
428
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:27,467
It was the best defense
because it was true.
429
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,336
[dramatic music]
430
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:32,505
.
431
00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:33,240
- The public is
losing faith in us.
432
00:19:34,707 --> 00:19:36,376
We can't even convict
confessed murderers.
433
00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:37,810
You were too soft, Pam.
You allowed the jury
434
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:39,746
to fall for
that sex abuse crap.
435
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:40,880
- I did that?
436
00:19:40,913 --> 00:19:42,815
Weisberg let
Abramson run wild.
437
00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:44,651
- I can't do much
about Weisberg,
438
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:46,653
but I'm taking you
off the case.
439
00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:48,921
David will handle
the retrial.
440
00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:53,726
- Fine. I'd rather
eat broken glass for a year
441
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,630
than spend another hour
in a room with Leslie Abramson.
442
00:19:57,664 --> 00:20:00,633
Good luck.
443
00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,469
- No margin for error
this time.
444
00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:03,770
We need two convictions.
445
00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,938
- So sex abuse,
that split the juries.
446
00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:08,308
- Weisberg let
the defense run amok.
447
00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:09,709
He's up for reelection.
448
00:20:09,742 --> 00:20:11,511
The county
and the justice system
449
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:14,247
deserve a stronger presence
on the bench.
450
00:20:14,281 --> 00:20:15,715
- When there's a hung jury,
451
00:20:15,748 --> 00:20:17,650
often you have to look
at the judge.
452
00:20:17,684 --> 00:20:19,752
Either his jury instructions
weren't clear
453
00:20:19,786 --> 00:20:21,654
or his rulings were confusing.
454
00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:24,357
Judge Weisberg
has a record of hung juries
455
00:20:24,391 --> 00:20:26,793
and controversial verdicts,
including the McMartin case
456
00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:28,628
and the Rodney King trial.
457
00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:30,797
- There you are.
Jackie sent me to look for you.
458
00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:32,832
Bill Norris
is about to speak.
459
00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:36,903
- That's all I need, a lecture
from a Ninth Circuit liberal.
460
00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,672
And I don't need
the contempt of my colleagues.
461
00:20:39,706 --> 00:20:41,941
They're blaming me
for Menendez.
462
00:20:41,974 --> 00:20:43,643
- As your friend,
I have one piece of advice.
463
00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:45,845
Forget those SOBs.
464
00:20:45,878 --> 00:20:49,716
- It took me two years
to get out of municipal court.
465
00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:52,385
If I don't get reelected
because of those murderers...
466
00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,721
- You're gonna get a chance
to rehabilitate yourself
467
00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,023
if there's a retrial,
or better yet,
468
00:20:57,056 --> 00:20:59,592
if you can get the DA to make
a deal with Leslie Abramson,
469
00:20:59,626 --> 00:21:01,060
you're everybody's hero.
470
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:04,431
- [scoffs]
Leslie Abramson?
471
00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:07,534
That woman...
472
00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:10,703
- Keith's face would get
redder than a radish.
473
00:21:10,737 --> 00:21:13,906
One time he practically
climbed over the table
474
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:15,475
to get in my face.
475
00:21:15,508 --> 00:21:16,943
- Incredible.
- And yet they couldn't
476
00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:19,011
understand the concept
of heat of passion.
477
00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:21,481
- Do you know anything
about a new trial?
478
00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:23,516
- No, we're hoping
for a plea bargain.
479
00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:25,652
- Oh.
[phone rings]
480
00:21:25,685 --> 00:21:28,588
- Is that him?
- Hello.
481
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:31,524
Hi, Erik.
Yes, they're here.
482
00:21:31,558 --> 00:21:35,462
Can I put you on speakerphone?
483
00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:37,497
- Hello.
all: Hi, Erik.
484
00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:38,731
- You guys having
a fun night?
485
00:21:38,765 --> 00:21:40,933
[laughter]
all: Yeah.
486
00:21:40,967 --> 00:21:43,870
- Erik, it's just so strange
to talk to you after all
487
00:21:43,903 --> 00:21:46,373
those months of not being able
to say anything to you.
488
00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,007
- It's strange for me too.
489
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,776
You guys know a lot of stuff
about me.
490
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,011
I don't know anything
about you.
491
00:21:56,383 --> 00:21:57,684
- Okay, we're gonna let you go.
492
00:21:57,717 --> 00:21:59,386
We know you have
other people to call.
493
00:21:59,419 --> 00:22:01,120
- Okay, I just wanted
to thank everyone
494
00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:03,656
for listening to us.
It was nice to meet you.
495
00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:05,658
Bye.
- Good luck, Erik.
496
00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,894
- Bye.
- Good luck.
497
00:22:07,927 --> 00:22:11,764
- That's what Erik was
hoping for, manslaughter.
498
00:22:11,798 --> 00:22:13,933
He was really upset
it didn't happen.
499
00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:16,002
- It's a shame
having to wait once more.
500
00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:18,638
- Erik's just upset he's gonna
have to testify again.
501
00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,039
He's not in good shape.
502
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:21,674
And they told us today
503
00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:23,643
that they're gonna
move me to another row.
504
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,011
So Erik will be alone.
505
00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:27,046
- I can check in on him
if he wants.
506
00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:29,916
- Yeah, that'd be great.
Thanks, Norma.
507
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:35,121
Um, I, uh--
I have three calls tonight.
508
00:22:35,154 --> 00:22:41,594
The first is 571-555-0189.
509
00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:44,130
- 571, that's Virginia.
510
00:22:44,163 --> 00:22:46,766
- Yes, someone who wrote me
a nice card.
511
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,569
I want to say thank you.
512
00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:52,405
- All right.
I'll connect you.
513
00:22:52,439 --> 00:22:55,408
[tense music]
514
00:22:55,442 --> 00:22:58,177
*
515
00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:59,679
[line ringing]
516
00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:01,981
- Hello.
- Hello. Is this Martha?
517
00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:05,852
This is Lyle.
- Hi. You got my card.
518
00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,988
- Yes, I just wanted
to say thank you.
519
00:23:09,021 --> 00:23:11,524
- I saw you on the TV
last Tuesday.
520
00:23:11,558 --> 00:23:12,992
You looked so handsome.
521
00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:14,794
- It's nice of you
to say that, Martha.
522
00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:17,964
[indistinct conversation]
523
00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:20,833
*
524
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:22,201
- We concede nothing.
525
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,437
Justice isn't a game.
526
00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:26,839
We'll file for a new trial
in the Menendez case.
527
00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:28,575
Assistant District Attorney
David Conn
528
00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:30,443
will lead the prosecution.
529
00:23:30,477 --> 00:23:33,145
David.
- Thank you.
530
00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:36,148
The defense managed to put José
and Kitty Menendez on trial
531
00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:38,651
when in reality
they were the victims.
532
00:23:38,685 --> 00:23:41,187
This time we'll make that
crystal clear.
533
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,623
Leslie Abramson
has said in the press
534
00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:45,725
she expects us to offer
a plea bargain.
535
00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,126
Let me be
the first to tell her,
536
00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:49,996
we will not be offering
any deals.
537
00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:56,769
- He's just staking out
a position.
538
00:23:56,803 --> 00:24:01,007
So Marcia told me that
she has taken on a new case.
539
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,142
But I found somebody
really good to replace her,
540
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:07,046
Barry Levin, ex-cop,
and he's a damn good lawyer.
541
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,048
I think the three of us
will make a really good team.
542
00:24:09,081 --> 00:24:10,917
- Leslie, I can't do
another trial.
543
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,653
- I know.
Yes, it's gonna be very hard.
544
00:24:13,686 --> 00:24:17,857
- No, I mean,
I'm not doing another trial.
545
00:24:19,826 --> 00:24:22,895
- What are you talking about?
You can't do that to Lyle.
546
00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:27,199
I'm sorry.
That wasn't fair.
547
00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:30,136
- My daughter has changed
so much in the last four years,
548
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:32,805
and I feel like
I've missed it all.
549
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:35,041
I don't know how you
manage it with your baby,
550
00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:36,809
but you do.
551
00:24:36,843 --> 00:24:38,778
You're different.
You're not like the rest of us.
552
00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:41,614
- Don't blow smoke, please.
You know I hate that.
553
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,617
[tense music]
554
00:24:44,651 --> 00:24:47,554
*
555
00:24:47,587 --> 00:24:49,789
Oh...
[sighs]
556
00:24:51,724 --> 00:24:54,794
Okay, I get it.
557
00:24:57,196 --> 00:24:59,532
- I have grown to truly
care about you, Lyle,
558
00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:02,669
but I have to take care
of my family, too.
559
00:25:02,702 --> 00:25:05,204
- That's okay, Jilly.
560
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:08,240
- There's a friend of mine
I'd like you to meet.
561
00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:10,209
His name is Charles Gessler.
562
00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:12,845
He's very respected
as a public defender,
563
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:16,949
and he's an expert
in death penalty cases.
564
00:25:16,983 --> 00:25:20,820
- Sure.
I'll talk to him.
565
00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:26,726
- I really appreciate you
making this easy on me, Lyle.
566
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,596
- You spent so much time
away from family.
567
00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:31,998
Family is everything.
568
00:25:39,138 --> 00:25:41,107
- I was only appointed
last week.
569
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,143
It'll take at least eight
months to properly prepare.
570
00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:48,881
I request that a new trial date
be set for January, 1995.
571
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:50,282
- Foot-dragging, Your Honor.
572
00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:52,118
I'm new to this case.
I'm ready to go.
573
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:54,120
We request a trial
at the earliest date.
574
00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:56,623
- I'm ready too, Your Honor.
Why don't you sever the trials
575
00:25:56,656 --> 00:25:58,658
so proceedings
for my client can begin?
576
00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:00,192
- I'll take it
under advisement.
577
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:02,094
- Can we talk bail?
578
00:26:02,128 --> 00:26:03,830
- Your Honor, the People will
be pursuing the death penalty.
579
00:26:03,863 --> 00:26:05,732
That takes bail
off the table.
580
00:26:05,765 --> 00:26:08,067
- The DA has been holding our
clients prisoner for four years
581
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,169
when they haven't been
convicted of anything.
582
00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:11,871
It is outrageous.
583
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,106
- Maybe the solution
is a negotiated settlement.
584
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:15,742
That would be appropriate.
585
00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:17,276
- The brutality
of these murders
586
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,111
prohibits us
from offering a deal.
587
00:26:19,145 --> 00:26:22,281
- There has been enough bombast
on both sides.
588
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:24,784
I strongly encourage you all
to sit down
589
00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:27,319
and come to an agreement.
590
00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:31,357
You'll be doing your clients
and the public a favor.
591
00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:33,159
- Let's face it, David,
we were this close
592
00:26:33,192 --> 00:26:35,061
to getting a manslaughter
verdict for our clients.
593
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,696
- Your defense is bull,
and I'll rip it to shreds
594
00:26:36,729 --> 00:26:38,197
in front of you.
595
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,132
- This case puts sexual
abuse out in the public.
596
00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,635
People are talking about it.
Victims are speaking out.
597
00:26:42,669 --> 00:26:46,105
And the jury pool are being
exposed on a daily basis.
598
00:26:46,138 --> 00:26:47,674
- The only people
who believe that
599
00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:49,075
are on your side
of the table.
600
00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:50,810
- If I offered you a deal,
you think I'd be able
601
00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:52,244
to face the detectives
who stood in the blood
602
00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:54,313
under a ceiling dripping
with brain matter?
603
00:26:54,346 --> 00:26:56,749
Your clients are
a couple of craven brats
604
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,217
who killed for money,
and they're laughing
605
00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,352
their asses off at you
for thinking otherwise.
606
00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,755
You tell your boys
to buy some new sweaters,
607
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,224
'cause I'm not offering them
a damn thing.
608
00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:12,231
- [exhales]
609
00:27:16,002 --> 00:27:18,137
- Counselor.
- Detective.
610
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:20,773
You know Barry Levin.
He's ex-LAPD.
611
00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:23,142
- Working for
the other side now, eh?
612
00:27:23,175 --> 00:27:25,945
Boy, Conn was laying it on
a little thick.
613
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,347
- Yeah, he's all talk.
- Eh, I don't know.
614
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,883
You don't seem to have
your old pizzazz.
615
00:27:30,917 --> 00:27:33,820
- Um--
- Don't listen to him.
616
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:35,855
He's just pimping you.
617
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:38,991
It's an old cop trick.
618
00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:43,395
- The house in Calabasas
was auctioned off to pay taxes.
619
00:27:43,429 --> 00:27:45,832
There's hardly anything left
in the estate.
620
00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:47,299
- We can't afford a new trial.
621
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,168
All the experts,
the lawyer fees--
622
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:51,303
- Lyle's new lawyer
was appointed by the court
623
00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:52,839
because Jill left.
624
00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:54,340
His fees are paid
by the state.
625
00:27:54,373 --> 00:27:56,976
Same thing with Mr. Levin,
who replaced Marcia,
626
00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,912
and I will use my fees
to pay experts.
627
00:27:59,946 --> 00:28:03,449
- Leslie, there's not even
enough to pay for you.
628
00:28:03,482 --> 00:28:06,252
I'm sorry.
629
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,955
- I will ask the supervising
judge to appoint me
630
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:10,222
to represent Erik.
631
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:12,324
That way the state
will pay me
632
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:14,727
about a quarter
of my regular rate.
633
00:28:14,761 --> 00:28:17,096
You'll be getting a bargain.
634
00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:21,000
My client is broke,
Your Honor.
635
00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:24,070
Neither he nor his family
can afford my attorney fees.
636
00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:26,438
I am asking to be made Erik's
court-appointed attorney.
637
00:28:26,472 --> 00:28:29,441
- I'm denying your request,
Ms. Abramson.
638
00:28:29,475 --> 00:28:32,378
As supervising judge,
it is my duty to manage
639
00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:35,414
the very limited resources
of the criminal division.
640
00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:37,416
This is one trial
where the taxpayers
641
00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:39,051
don't need to chip in.
642
00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:40,419
- Are you trying to force me
off the case?
643
00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:42,488
You can't expect me
to work for free.
644
00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:44,056
- You've been paid very well.
645
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:46,258
- I don't like the inference
646
00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:48,394
that I am a moneygrubber,
Your Honor.
647
00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:52,064
I have spent 8,600 hours
over the past four years
648
00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:55,034
on this case.
That is $68 an hour.
649
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,302
- Can I speak? Please?
- Erik.
650
00:28:56,335 --> 00:28:58,170
- Please, please.
- Erik.
651
00:28:58,204 --> 00:29:01,107
- Your Honor, I beg you.
652
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,175
There is no way I would
want to do another trial
653
00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,044
without Ms. Abramson.
654
00:29:05,077 --> 00:29:07,279
She's been my lawyer
since my life was revealed.
655
00:29:07,313 --> 00:29:10,216
I don't think that I can
open up to another attorney.
656
00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:15,087
- I am not relieving her
of her position.
657
00:29:15,121 --> 00:29:16,923
As long as you want her
to work for you,
658
00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:18,190
she has to work for you,
659
00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:20,026
but the taxpayers
of California
660
00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:21,260
will not be footing the bill.
661
00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:23,462
We are adjourned.
[gavel bangs]
662
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,798
- I don't understand. They're
paying for Lyle's lawyer.
663
00:29:25,832 --> 00:29:27,199
They're paying for Mr. Levin.
664
00:29:27,233 --> 00:29:29,101
- That's because we replaced
lawyers who left,
665
00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,337
and you want Leslie to stay.
666
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:35,374
- I can't ask you
to work for free.
667
00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:38,477
I'll let you go. I'll say
I want another attorney.
668
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:40,512
- That's what they want.
They want me off the case.
669
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:44,050
We will find a way around this.
I'm not leaving you, Erik.
670
00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:50,189
- This trial could take
another year, at least.
671
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:51,958
And then the appeals.
672
00:29:51,991 --> 00:29:54,193
Now, I know how
committed you are,
673
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:56,462
but you can't pretend
you can afford to do this.
674
00:29:56,495 --> 00:29:59,198
You have to let
Erik fire you.
675
00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:02,434
[somber music]
676
00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:06,072
.
677
00:30:06,105 --> 00:30:07,106
- There's a misconception
that Erik and Lyle are rich.
678
00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:10,176
They are not.
Not anymore.
679
00:30:10,209 --> 00:30:11,978
I'm not rich either.
680
00:30:12,011 --> 00:30:14,246
And because Judge Mills
refuses to make me
681
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,217
Erik's court-appointed lawyer,
I may go broke defending him.
682
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:19,986
As you all know,
justice isn't cheap.
683
00:30:20,019 --> 00:30:21,587
It costs a lot
to mount a defense,
684
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:23,956
especially when the DA
is hell bent
685
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:25,357
on killing our clients
686
00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:28,394
and won't even consider
a plea bargain.
687
00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,897
So we need to raise money.
688
00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:33,532
People have sent in
contributions unsolicited,
689
00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:36,903
very modest contributions
from ordinary people,
690
00:30:36,936 --> 00:30:40,006
but it gave us the idea
to set up a defense fund.
691
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:41,941
- How much are
you hoping to raise?
692
00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:43,642
- We have to spend as
much money defending the boys
693
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:46,045
as Garcetti is spending
to kill them.
694
00:30:46,078 --> 00:30:49,982
- Leslie Abramson may have
the Erik Menendez Defense Fund.
695
00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:51,884
Well, we have one too.
696
00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:53,552
This came to my office today
697
00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:56,622
addressed to the Erik Menendez
Prosecution Fund.
698
00:30:56,655 --> 00:30:59,658
It's for $50, and it's from
an attorney in Chicago.
699
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,094
- And we hear that
some disc jockeys on KFI
700
00:31:02,128 --> 00:31:03,562
are holding a yard sale
and they're donating
701
00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:05,197
the proceeds
to the prosecution.
702
00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:07,433
[laughter]
703
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:11,637
- Garcetti's making it look
704
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:15,007
like I'm helping
the prosecution.
705
00:31:15,041 --> 00:31:17,509
Where's Abramson's
motion to reconsider?
706
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,351
[sighs]
707
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,586
This should make
things interesting.
708
00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:31,490
- Listen, my grandmother
was from Russia.
709
00:31:31,523 --> 00:31:34,126
When I was little,
she told me how the Nazis
710
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,928
wiped out our people.
711
00:31:35,962 --> 00:31:38,664
My people,
just rolled over them.
712
00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:40,499
I don't wanna get
rolled over.
713
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:41,934
Not by anybody.
714
00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:44,103
I will find a way
to pay for it.
715
00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:46,505
- No, you can't pay
for everything, Leslie.
716
00:31:46,538 --> 00:31:49,175
- Look, Tim and I talked about
getting a second mortgage.
717
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:50,476
I got a book offer.
718
00:31:50,509 --> 00:31:53,545
- You just won't quit,
will you?
719
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:57,149
- This is why I have
an office next to K-Town.
720
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,519
- Judge Mills on line two.
721
00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,394
- This is Leslie Abramson.
722
00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:11,063
Uh, okay.
723
00:32:11,097 --> 00:32:12,731
Half?
724
00:32:12,764 --> 00:32:14,633
No, no, no.
I accept.
725
00:32:14,666 --> 00:32:17,169
Yes.
Thank you, Your Honor.
726
00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:21,640
He reversed himself.
727
00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:24,010
He granted
my motion to reconsider.
728
00:32:24,043 --> 00:32:27,313
I am now Erik's
court-appointed attorney,
729
00:32:27,346 --> 00:32:30,182
for half my normal rate.
730
00:32:30,216 --> 00:32:34,686
I am now the cheapest
famous lawyer in the world.
731
00:32:38,024 --> 00:32:40,292
- Just got a phone call.
Mills reversed.
732
00:32:40,326 --> 00:32:41,493
He appointed Abramson.
733
00:32:41,527 --> 00:32:43,395
- Gutless.
734
00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,131
That leaves Weisberg.
735
00:32:45,164 --> 00:32:47,266
I read your preliminary
witness list.
736
00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:49,335
Oziel, really?
- Why not?
737
00:32:49,368 --> 00:32:52,538
- I hear he settled with
Judalon Smyth on her lawsuit.
738
00:32:52,571 --> 00:32:54,973
His credibility is shot.
739
00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:09,055
- That's the agreement
and the nondisclosure.
740
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:20,699
- This should end all claims by
your client against Dr. Oziel.
741
00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:25,271
- It's kind of like
getting a divorce.
742
00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:28,040
- Without the misery of
actually being married to you.
743
00:33:28,074 --> 00:33:30,476
- You're so abusive. You're
the worst therapist ever.
744
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,411
Go to hell.
745
00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:34,313
How much do you think
I could get
746
00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:38,117
for suing "Playboy" for those
articles they wrote about me?
747
00:33:42,088 --> 00:33:46,192
- How 'bout me suing
"Vanity Fair"?
748
00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:47,793
I'm serious.
749
00:33:47,826 --> 00:33:49,828
- "Our local judiciary's
inability to control
750
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:53,599
"the courtroom and
deliver justice has made us
751
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:56,835
the laughingstock of
our criminal justice system."
752
00:33:56,868 --> 00:33:59,371
This is just
a shot across the bow.
753
00:33:59,405 --> 00:34:01,340
- What do you mean?
754
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,309
- Well, there's talk
they're looking for someone
755
00:34:03,342 --> 00:34:06,245
to run against you
in the next election.
756
00:34:06,278 --> 00:34:09,248
[somber music]
757
00:34:09,281 --> 00:34:11,717
*
758
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,486
- I have considered
the defense request
759
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,755
to sever the trials.
I'm denying it.
760
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,591
Both defendants will
be tried at the same time
761
00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:21,227
with one jury.
762
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,162
- Your Honor, waiting
for Lyle's attorney
763
00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:25,264
to get up to speed
is not fair to my client.
764
00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:27,733
- Two trials isn't fair
to the taxpayers.
765
00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:30,169
It is time-consuming
and costly.
766
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:31,770
One trial, one jury.
767
00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:33,739
That's what you've got,
Miss Abramson.
768
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:37,243
We're adjourned.
[bangs gavel]
769
00:34:37,276 --> 00:34:38,677
- Your Honor--
770
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:46,118
*
771
00:34:49,221 --> 00:34:51,723
- I was eight when
I saw you do the Run.
772
00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:54,426
Most exciting moment
of my life.
773
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:55,661
- Thank you.
774
00:34:55,694 --> 00:34:58,764
- We just cleaned it
for you, Juice.
775
00:34:58,797 --> 00:35:02,334
But we'll be back.
Try and take it easy.
776
00:35:02,368 --> 00:35:07,239
[indistinct chatter]
777
00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:09,308
- [Simpson crying]
778
00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:19,485
- Mr. Simpson?
779
00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:21,520
Um, O.J.?
780
00:35:21,553 --> 00:35:24,723
- Who's that?
- I'm Erik Menendez.
781
00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:27,493
Um, you came to my house
in New Jersey
782
00:35:27,526 --> 00:35:30,296
when my dad worked for Hertz.
783
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:32,164
- Oh, yeah?
784
00:35:32,198 --> 00:35:37,736
- Yeah, you were so nice
to my brother and me.
785
00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:40,339
- [Simpson sniffs]
786
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:45,677
- It's gonna get better, O.J.
787
00:35:45,711 --> 00:35:48,180
First three days
are the worst,
788
00:35:48,214 --> 00:35:50,216
but...
789
00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:54,453
It gets better.
790
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,488
- Mr. Simpson will be charged
with two counts
791
00:35:56,522 --> 00:35:59,925
of first-degree murder
with special circumstances.
792
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:02,728
We will not seek the death
penalty in this case.
793
00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:04,530
- If anyone doubted
the District Attorney
794
00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:07,299
had a double-standard,
now we have proof.
795
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,601
What kind of moral
or legal decision
796
00:36:09,635 --> 00:36:12,471
would merit the death penalty
for two young men
797
00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:14,373
accused of killing
their abusers,
798
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:16,342
but not for
a famous wife-beater
799
00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:18,877
accused of killing
his ex-wife and her friend?
800
00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:20,612
I think "famous"
is the key word here.
801
00:36:20,646 --> 00:36:22,648
You believe this?
802
00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:25,684
I've run off
and joined the media circus.
803
00:36:26,985 --> 00:36:28,920
- It pays the Menendez bills,
804
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:31,757
and everybody gets to see
what a smart lady I married.
805
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:34,626
- I'm not feeling so smart.
806
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:36,595
Feel like I'm failing
at everything,
807
00:36:36,628 --> 00:36:39,465
as a lawyer,
as a wife, as a mom.
808
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,970
I don't know if I'm doing
the right thing.
809
00:36:52,311 --> 00:36:52,444
.
810
00:36:52,478 --> 00:36:55,213
- Thanks for signing it, Juice.
My kid's gonna love it.
811
00:36:57,316 --> 00:37:00,286
- Guys, you think I could
get a different pillow?
812
00:37:00,319 --> 00:37:01,920
I couldn't sleep last night.
813
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:03,955
- No problem, Juice.
I'll see what I can do.
814
00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,959
Hold onto that.
815
00:37:12,631 --> 00:37:14,400
- O.J.
816
00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:16,535
Be careful about
what you say to the deputies.
817
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:18,804
They seem like they're
your friends, but they're not.
818
00:37:18,837 --> 00:37:20,572
- [chuckles]
They're just fans.
819
00:37:20,606 --> 00:37:23,375
- No, everything you tell them
goes straight to the police.
820
00:37:23,409 --> 00:37:25,477
Don't talk to anyone but
your lawyer about your case.
821
00:37:25,511 --> 00:37:27,313
That includes
other inmates too.
822
00:37:27,346 --> 00:37:28,780
The jail's full of snitches
who'll try to beat
823
00:37:28,814 --> 00:37:30,949
their cases by making yours.
You understand?
824
00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:32,751
- Yeah.
825
00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:35,053
Thanks, Erik.
826
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:38,857
- And your lawyer,
Robert Shapiro,
827
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:40,826
he screwed up my surrender.
828
00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:45,297
I'm facing the death penalty
because of him, so...
829
00:37:45,331 --> 00:37:47,733
don't believe
everything he says.
830
00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:49,835
- I won't.
831
00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:52,270
Thanks for the heads-up.
832
00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:58,310
- Your Honor,
defense has put
833
00:37:58,344 --> 00:38:00,479
almost a dozen experts
on the stand,
834
00:38:00,512 --> 00:38:03,315
all testifying essentially
about the same thing.
835
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:04,716
We're asking
the court to limit
836
00:38:04,750 --> 00:38:06,552
this quack pack
of psychologists.
837
00:38:06,585 --> 00:38:09,321
- It was six experts, not 12,
838
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:10,922
testifying for two defendants
839
00:38:10,956 --> 00:38:13,024
about a much-misunderstood
subject.
840
00:38:13,058 --> 00:38:15,794
- Mr. Conn, I am denying
People's motion.
841
00:38:15,827 --> 00:38:17,429
Defense experts are in.
842
00:38:17,463 --> 00:38:19,631
- Your Honor, our motion
to exclude testimony
843
00:38:19,665 --> 00:38:20,999
about the Menendez family
history is before you.
844
00:38:21,032 --> 00:38:22,701
- That testimony
is crucial--
845
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:25,671
- Ms. Abramson,
I did not ask you to speak.
846
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:28,574
Mr. Conn,
your motion is granted.
847
00:38:28,607 --> 00:38:31,410
I am excluding
any irrelevant testimony
848
00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:33,545
about the family history.
849
00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:36,415
- Your Honor,
please explain "irrelevant."
850
00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:39,551
- Any unnecessary testimony
from family members
851
00:38:39,585 --> 00:38:41,353
or friends
of the defendants
852
00:38:41,387 --> 00:38:44,923
about physical abuse
or psychological bullying.
853
00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:46,992
- You can't do that.
854
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:50,028
- All such testimony
will only be permitted
855
00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:51,830
in the penalty phase.
856
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:53,499
- That's too late.
857
00:38:53,532 --> 00:38:55,501
The jury needs to hear it
during the trial
858
00:38:55,534 --> 00:38:57,369
before they reach
a verdict.
859
00:38:57,403 --> 00:39:00,672
My defense is built
on imminent fear.
860
00:39:00,706 --> 00:39:02,508
Please, I am not
trying to prove
861
00:39:02,541 --> 00:39:04,776
that my client and his brother
had a sad childhood.
862
00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:07,746
Their entire sense
of safety is at issue.
863
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:10,716
It makes no sense
to present experts
864
00:39:10,749 --> 00:39:12,984
when there is no corroboration
from family members
865
00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:14,820
and the people
in their lives.
866
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,121
- I disagree.
867
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:17,823
- Ugh, this is unbelievable.
868
00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:19,891
- I'm looking forward
to working with you again too,
869
00:39:19,925 --> 00:39:21,059
Miss Abramson.
870
00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:22,561
Only this time around,
871
00:39:22,594 --> 00:39:24,463
things are gonna be
a little different.
872
00:39:24,496 --> 00:39:26,832
For one thing,
that will be coming down.
873
00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:29,635
I am excluding all cameras
from the courtroom.
874
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,437
We're adjourned.
875
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,840
[dramatic music]
876
00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:38,009
- Wh--what does he mean,
no family history?
877
00:39:38,043 --> 00:39:40,779
- Our family can't testify
about what happened to us?
878
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:43,449
- No, but you can,
and we'll appeal.
879
00:39:43,482 --> 00:39:45,417
We will find a way
to get it in.
880
00:39:45,451 --> 00:39:51,590
*
881
00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:53,525
Weisberg just gutted
our case.
882
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,127
- Yeah, I think
you were right.
883
00:39:56,161 --> 00:39:57,763
The fix is in.
884
00:39:57,796 --> 00:40:00,732
- And they don't want
any witnesses.
885
00:40:06,137 --> 00:40:09,174
- I don't care anymore.
I'm just tired of not knowing.
886
00:40:09,207 --> 00:40:10,876
Will I be in jail
for ten years?
887
00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:12,711
Will I be in jail forever?
Will I be executed?
888
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:14,613
I just want to know
so I can get on
889
00:40:14,646 --> 00:40:16,081
with whatever life
I'm gonna have.
890
00:40:16,114 --> 00:40:18,183
- I understand, Erik.
We all do.
891
00:40:18,216 --> 00:40:20,752
You just--you have to
take it moment by moment.
892
00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:22,020
- Hey, we'll get through this,
all right?
893
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:25,591
I know you can do it.
894
00:40:25,624 --> 00:40:28,927
Just remember,
master your emotions.
895
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,065
*
896
00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:37,836
- We should ask to have Erik
put on suicide watch.
897
00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:44,610
*
898
00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:46,845
- What happened to O.J.?
- He went to another unit.
899
00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:50,015
His lawyer, Shapiro, called.
Had him moved.
900
00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:55,554
*
901
00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:58,490
- Ooh, this toy train
looks fun.
902
00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,728
- I think he's
a little young for that.
903
00:41:04,696 --> 00:41:06,898
Oh, this is adorable.
904
00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:10,702
[both chuckle]
905
00:41:10,736 --> 00:41:12,771
- Sold.
906
00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:15,774
[children laughing]
907
00:41:18,076 --> 00:41:21,046
[somber music]
908
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:25,517
*
909
00:41:25,551 --> 00:41:27,853
[indistinct chatter]
910
00:41:27,886 --> 00:41:29,788
There we go.
911
00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:36,828
*
912
00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:40,131
- [sighs]
913
00:41:40,165 --> 00:41:43,134
- What's wrong?
914
00:41:43,168 --> 00:41:46,004
- Just all these happy kids.
915
00:41:46,037 --> 00:41:48,106
- Yeah.
916
00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:49,575
Why are you crying?
917
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:51,810
- I don't know.
918
00:41:58,249 --> 00:42:02,588
*
919
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,590
[gate opens]
920
00:42:04,623 --> 00:42:11,830
*
921
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:22,107
.
922
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:22,574
[dramatic music]
923
00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:32,050
*
924
00:42:51,136 --> 00:42:54,305
[wolf howls]
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