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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,835 --> 00:00:02,167 [ Food plops ] 2 00:00:02,169 --> 00:00:09,274 ♪♪ 3 00:00:09,276 --> 00:00:16,415 ♪♪ 4 00:00:16,417 --> 00:00:23,522 ♪♪ 5 00:00:23,524 --> 00:00:25,624 [ Sighs ] 6 00:00:25,626 --> 00:00:35,234 ♪♪ 7 00:00:35,236 --> 00:00:44,877 ♪♪ 8 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:54,486 ♪♪ 9 00:00:54,488 --> 00:00:58,290 WOLTER: The history that we were all taught growing up is wrong. 10 00:00:58,292 --> 00:01:02,428 My name is Scott Wolter, and I'm a forensic geologist. 11 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:05,798 There's a hidden history in this country that nobody knows about. 12 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,502 There are pyramids here, chambers, tombs, inscriptions. 13 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:12,871 They're all over this country. 14 00:01:12,873 --> 00:01:15,274 We're gonna investigate these artifacts and sites, 15 00:01:15,276 --> 00:01:17,509 and we're gonna get to the truth. 16 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:20,312 Sometimes history isn't what we've been told. 17 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:28,187 ♪♪ 18 00:01:28,189 --> 00:01:36,061 ♪♪ 19 00:01:36,063 --> 00:01:37,629 ♪♪ 20 00:01:37,631 --> 00:01:39,398 [ Computer beeps ] 21 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,500 [ Mouse clicks ] 22 00:01:41,502 --> 00:01:46,638 ♪♪ 23 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,810 ♪♪ 24 00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:54,513 [ Ringing ] 25 00:01:54,515 --> 00:01:55,614 ATKINS: Hello? 26 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:57,082 Hello, is this Harry Atkins? 27 00:01:57,084 --> 00:01:58,217 Speaking. 28 00:01:58,219 --> 00:02:00,719 Hi, Harry. This is Scott Wolter. How are you? 29 00:02:00,721 --> 00:02:01,954 I'm doing great. 30 00:02:01,956 --> 00:02:04,490 Good. Say, I was just looking at your e-mail, 31 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:07,326 and these artifacts are very intriguing. 32 00:02:07,328 --> 00:02:09,761 I've looked at Viking artifacts before 33 00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:13,132 but never Viking artifacts found in Arizona. 34 00:02:13,134 --> 00:02:15,400 I'd really be interested in taking a look at them. 35 00:02:15,402 --> 00:02:16,602 Is that possible? 36 00:02:16,604 --> 00:02:17,870 It sure is. 37 00:02:17,872 --> 00:02:21,640 Great. I look forward to meeting you in person. 38 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:28,080 ♪♪ 39 00:02:28,082 --> 00:02:34,553 ♪♪ 40 00:02:34,555 --> 00:02:38,323 WOLTER: The Vikings were some of the fiercest warriors of all time, 41 00:02:38,325 --> 00:02:39,958 hailing from Scandinavia, 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,595 a rugged landscape far different from where I am now. 43 00:02:43,597 --> 00:02:47,166 They earned their reputation for battle rage and bloodlust 44 00:02:47,168 --> 00:02:49,301 on countless raids across England 45 00:02:49,303 --> 00:02:51,970 between the 8th and 11th centuries. 46 00:02:51,972 --> 00:02:54,640 They soon set their sights on lands further west 47 00:02:54,642 --> 00:02:57,342 from the fjords and forests they called home, 48 00:02:57,344 --> 00:03:00,445 not to raid, but for one simple reason -- 49 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:03,615 overpopulation. 50 00:03:03,617 --> 00:03:07,553 If Harry Atkins' dad really has authentic Viking artifacts 51 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:09,254 found in Arizona, 52 00:03:09,256 --> 00:03:11,557 it could be the first step in figuring out 53 00:03:11,559 --> 00:03:14,126 if this is one place they settled. 54 00:03:16,897 --> 00:03:18,363 Harry, good to meet you. 55 00:03:18,365 --> 00:03:19,531 Nice to meet you. 56 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:22,367 Well, you picked a fantastic place to meet. 57 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:25,437 I mean, this is a geologist's paradise. 58 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:29,608 Chemical conditions caused this iron oxide to form in the rocks, 59 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:33,912 and now it's weathering out, producing beautiful red colors. 60 00:03:33,914 --> 00:03:36,415 You don't see that too many places. 61 00:03:36,417 --> 00:03:39,518 Speaking of things you don't see too often -- 62 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,287 Viking artifacts that your father found. 63 00:03:42,289 --> 00:03:43,789 Well, my dad actually didn't find them. 64 00:03:43,791 --> 00:03:47,192 He owned an antique shop and an art gallery. 65 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:48,560 A woman came to him and said, 66 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:50,429 "Hey, I found these things 67 00:03:50,431 --> 00:03:53,165 out on the desert around Sedona out hiking, 68 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:54,733 and you're into old things. 69 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:56,201 Here. why don't you take them?" 70 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:58,470 And he was very intrigued, and she told him, 71 00:03:58,472 --> 00:03:59,805 "Well, I found them in what looked like 72 00:03:59,807 --> 00:04:02,407 a rotted pair of saddlebags." 73 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:04,009 He started doing some Internet research, 74 00:04:04,011 --> 00:04:05,877 and based on some of the designs 75 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:08,447 on the largest of the artifacts, 76 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:10,482 he thought that perhaps they were Viking. 77 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:13,385 It's not unheard of that people find things out in the desert, 78 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:16,421 but Viking artifacts, that's a whole nother ball game. 79 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:19,224 So the question is, "How did they get here?" 80 00:04:19,226 --> 00:04:20,359 That is the question, 81 00:04:20,361 --> 00:04:21,893 and I'm hoping you can get the answer. 82 00:04:21,895 --> 00:04:23,929 So, your father passed, right? 83 00:04:23,931 --> 00:04:25,998 Yes, he passed in 2017. 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,301 He wanted you to look into these things, so here we are. 85 00:04:29,303 --> 00:04:32,938 I would love to get the answers for you and your father. 86 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,172 Can we take a look at the artifacts? 87 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:35,374 We sure can. 88 00:04:35,376 --> 00:04:37,442 There's a woman named Bonnie that worked for my dad, 89 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:39,044 and she's got the artifacts right now. 90 00:04:39,046 --> 00:04:41,179 Lead the way. All right. 91 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:46,852 ♪♪ 92 00:04:46,854 --> 00:04:52,190 ♪♪ 93 00:04:52,192 --> 00:04:57,496 ♪♪ 94 00:04:57,498 --> 00:05:01,099 A Viking find out here would be unprecedented. 95 00:05:01,101 --> 00:05:02,334 Wow. 96 00:05:02,336 --> 00:05:06,438 The Viking sagas talk about a place called Vinland. 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,875 Vinland has never been conclusively identified. 98 00:05:09,877 --> 00:05:11,677 They know it's in North America. 99 00:05:11,679 --> 00:05:13,779 Some people think it's on the northeast coast, 100 00:05:13,781 --> 00:05:15,447 and that does make some sense, 101 00:05:15,449 --> 00:05:17,916 but that doesn't mean that they're right. 102 00:05:17,918 --> 00:05:20,452 WOLTER: There is a confirmed Viking settlement 103 00:05:20,454 --> 00:05:22,421 in Newfoundland, which I've seen, 104 00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:24,723 but one thing archaeologists agree on 105 00:05:24,725 --> 00:05:27,426 is that it's not Vinland. 106 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:30,362 They've concentrated their efforts to find Vinland 107 00:05:30,364 --> 00:05:32,531 on the East Coast of the United States 108 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:34,633 because that's where some intriguing things 109 00:05:34,635 --> 00:05:38,170 have already been found, including a stone in the sea 110 00:05:38,172 --> 00:05:39,971 off the coast of Martha's Vineyard 111 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:42,007 inscribed with the name of the Viking's 112 00:05:42,009 --> 00:05:45,210 most notorious explorer, Leif Erikson. 113 00:05:45,212 --> 00:05:47,279 And I think the geology suggests 114 00:05:47,281 --> 00:05:49,915 it could have been carved at the time of his voyage 115 00:05:49,917 --> 00:05:52,050 across the Atlantic. 116 00:05:52,052 --> 00:05:54,419 But if Harry's artifacts are authentic, 117 00:05:54,421 --> 00:05:59,891 maybe we should be looking here, 2,500 miles further west. 118 00:05:59,893 --> 00:06:01,526 If these Viking artifacts 119 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:04,696 that your dad came into are genuine, 120 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:06,531 maybe Vinland is out here. 121 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:12,237 ♪♪ 122 00:06:12,239 --> 00:06:17,909 ♪♪ 123 00:06:17,911 --> 00:06:18,944 Hi, Bonnie. 124 00:06:18,946 --> 00:06:20,379 Hi. Nice to meet you, Scott. 125 00:06:20,381 --> 00:06:22,080 Apparently, you're the one that knows 126 00:06:22,082 --> 00:06:23,982 where these artifacts were found. 127 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:26,251 Well, we don't know exactly where they were found -- 128 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:28,920 just somewhere in this area. 129 00:06:28,922 --> 00:06:31,556 WOLTER: It's too bad we don't have an exact location 130 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:33,291 because we might be able to find 131 00:06:33,293 --> 00:06:35,527 even more artifacts still buried, 132 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:38,697 something that could bolster the provenance of this cache 133 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:40,899 because their archaeological context 134 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:43,668 could be studied and proven. 135 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:46,071 But this is still an amazing find, 136 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:48,507 and there are other ways to explore the possibility 137 00:06:48,509 --> 00:06:52,244 the Vikings left these here if they appear authentic. 138 00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:54,880 WOLTER: [ Laughing ] Wow! 139 00:06:54,882 --> 00:06:56,248 Incredible. 140 00:06:56,250 --> 00:07:04,589 ♪♪ 141 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:07,092 They all have a very similar look to them. 142 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:09,027 Do you notice this green material 143 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:11,363 that's covering pretty much all of them, it looks like? 144 00:07:11,365 --> 00:07:12,364 -Yeah. -Yeah. 145 00:07:12,366 --> 00:07:13,665 That's a copper carbonate, 146 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,967 and that's produced by weathering of the metal, 147 00:07:15,969 --> 00:07:18,403 which tells me that there's copper in here, 148 00:07:18,405 --> 00:07:20,071 as well as other metals. 149 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:23,308 When either bronze or brass oxidizes, 150 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:26,044 it'll produce this green coating on here. 151 00:07:26,046 --> 00:07:28,380 It's called a patina. 152 00:07:28,382 --> 00:07:31,483 That's always been the interesting piece of the bunch. 153 00:07:31,485 --> 00:07:33,552 ATKINS: Have you seen anything like that before? 154 00:07:33,554 --> 00:07:36,521 You know what? Actually, I have. 155 00:07:36,523 --> 00:07:37,756 Let me show you some pictures. 156 00:07:40,194 --> 00:07:42,928 This is Sweden, Scandinavia, 157 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:45,263 and that is Gotland, 158 00:07:45,265 --> 00:07:48,099 which is an island in the middle of the Baltic Sea. 159 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:49,201 And Viking artifacts 160 00:07:49,203 --> 00:07:50,902 have been found on the island of Gotland 161 00:07:50,904 --> 00:07:52,337 for literally centuries. 162 00:07:52,339 --> 00:07:54,206 They're all over. 163 00:07:54,208 --> 00:07:56,708 Here's one that's kind of shaped like this guy right here. 164 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:59,077 See how the end comes straight out? 165 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,246 That's very similar. 166 00:08:01,248 --> 00:08:04,216 Now, this one looks almost [Laughing] exactly 167 00:08:04,218 --> 00:08:06,551 like this guy right here. Wow. Look at that. 168 00:08:06,553 --> 00:08:08,453 ♪♪ 169 00:08:08,455 --> 00:08:10,822 Now, here's an interesting artifact. 170 00:08:10,824 --> 00:08:15,360 That is a broach that was worn by Viking-age women. 171 00:08:15,362 --> 00:08:18,129 That one right there looks a lot like this one. 172 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:19,631 You know what? Actually, it does. 173 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:21,199 You're right. 174 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:24,002 Did Vikings bring their women along on these journeys? 175 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:25,971 The Viking Sagas talk about women 176 00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:28,173 coming over here to the new world. 177 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,742 How do you think they actually got in this area? 178 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:32,677 It's far from the sea. 179 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,246 WOLTER: I explain to Harry and Bonnie 180 00:08:34,248 --> 00:08:37,182 that in ancient times, much of the arid Southwest 181 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:38,850 was actually a lake, 182 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,619 and a giant lake at that, 183 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:42,988 called Lake Cahuilla. 184 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:45,423 Today, all that's left is the Salton Sea 185 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:49,928 in California's Imperial and Coachella Valleys. 186 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:52,364 The Vikings, who we know were sailing west 187 00:08:52,366 --> 00:08:54,332 looking for new lands to settle, 188 00:08:54,334 --> 00:08:56,601 could have gotten to this part of the country 189 00:08:56,603 --> 00:08:58,837 by coming through the Northwest Passage, 190 00:08:58,839 --> 00:09:00,839 around Alaska, 191 00:09:00,841 --> 00:09:04,242 down the coast of California, around Baja, 192 00:09:04,244 --> 00:09:06,011 into the Gulf of California, 193 00:09:06,013 --> 00:09:08,413 and then straight up into the U.S. 194 00:09:08,415 --> 00:09:12,150 Sedona is still a ways from the edge of the ancient lake, 195 00:09:12,152 --> 00:09:14,553 but the Vikings could have traveled here on foot 196 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:17,956 in search of a place to settle. 197 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:19,691 WOLTER: I mean, this would be unprecedented 198 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:22,527 if they actually did come here back at that time. 199 00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:24,195 Okay. 200 00:09:24,197 --> 00:09:26,431 WOLTER: There is, of course, another possibility 201 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:28,466 of how Bonnie and Harry's artifacts 202 00:09:28,468 --> 00:09:31,436 ended up here that I have to point out. 203 00:09:31,438 --> 00:09:32,537 The other possibility 204 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:34,339 is that these artifacts were collected 205 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:37,342 by somebody within the last 150 years, 206 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,311 and they were brought over maybe with immigrants 207 00:09:39,313 --> 00:09:41,580 from Scandinavia. 208 00:09:41,582 --> 00:09:44,883 WOLTER: Starting in the 1830s, millions of Swedes, 209 00:09:44,885 --> 00:09:46,351 Danes and Norwegians, 210 00:09:46,353 --> 00:09:50,722 including some of my ancestors, moved to the United States. 211 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:52,257 But it's a fact that most of them 212 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:54,526 settled in the Midwest where I'm from 213 00:09:54,528 --> 00:09:56,194 and where the climate was similar 214 00:09:56,196 --> 00:10:00,365 to what they left back home, not the Southwest. 215 00:10:00,367 --> 00:10:04,269 All I know right now is these things look authentic, 216 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,871 but there are ways to tell for sure. 217 00:10:06,873 --> 00:10:08,373 WOLTER: As great as this looks, 218 00:10:08,375 --> 00:10:11,242 you have to tap the brakes just a bit. 219 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:12,410 There is a black market 220 00:10:12,412 --> 00:10:15,080 where people are making artifacts like this, 221 00:10:15,082 --> 00:10:17,616 and they're really good at making them look authentic. 222 00:10:17,618 --> 00:10:19,851 But one of the ways that we can tell the difference 223 00:10:19,853 --> 00:10:21,820 between something that is authentic 224 00:10:21,822 --> 00:10:23,455 and something that's modern 225 00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:26,124 is by using something called an XRF gun. 226 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:31,329 ♪♪ 227 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:34,399 WOLTER: XRF stands for X-ray florescence 228 00:10:34,401 --> 00:10:35,767 and is a critical tool 229 00:10:35,769 --> 00:10:38,937 in assessing the authenticity of artifacts. 230 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:41,239 A gun like this can reveal what metals 231 00:10:41,241 --> 00:10:43,742 objects like these are made of. 232 00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:46,011 ♪♪ 233 00:10:46,013 --> 00:10:48,380 WOLTER: The Vikings used crude forges. 234 00:10:48,382 --> 00:10:51,950 I expect that we're probably gonna see copper and zinc, 235 00:10:51,952 --> 00:10:54,486 but it also should have some secondary elements 236 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:57,722 like iron, tin, and lead. 237 00:10:57,724 --> 00:10:59,724 Let's start with this guy right here. 238 00:10:59,726 --> 00:11:04,195 ♪♪ 239 00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:05,730 The suspense is killing you, right? 240 00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:07,565 [ Both laugh ] 241 00:11:07,567 --> 00:11:10,001 [ Laughing ] Oh! 242 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,770 Do you know what we have here? 243 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:15,940 ♪♪ 244 00:11:17,711 --> 00:11:24,449 ♪♪ 245 00:11:24,451 --> 00:11:31,156 ♪♪ 246 00:11:31,158 --> 00:11:35,326 WOLTER: Over 10% copper. Over 10% zinc. 247 00:11:35,328 --> 00:11:37,295 Lead, 3.42%. 248 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:40,665 Iron and a little bit of silver. 249 00:11:40,667 --> 00:11:43,101 These results are very consistent 250 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:45,637 with known Viking-age artifacts, 251 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:48,173 so I really like what we're seeing here. 252 00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:49,841 Even though I love these test results 253 00:11:49,843 --> 00:11:51,476 and they appear to be authentic, 254 00:11:51,478 --> 00:11:52,777 that isn't everything. 255 00:11:52,779 --> 00:11:55,747 I'd really like to sit down with a professor I know. 256 00:11:55,749 --> 00:11:57,949 She teaches at Oxford in the U.K., 257 00:11:57,951 --> 00:12:00,518 one of the top experts in Viking artifacts, 258 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,755 and she'll know if these are authentic artifacts or not. 259 00:12:03,757 --> 00:12:05,190 Is it okay if I take them with me? 260 00:12:05,192 --> 00:12:06,391 Sure. Yeah. 261 00:12:06,393 --> 00:12:07,659 Promise I'll bring them back. 262 00:12:07,661 --> 00:12:09,127 Maybe we'll finally have an answer 263 00:12:09,129 --> 00:12:10,695 for your dad and for you guys. 264 00:12:10,697 --> 00:12:11,896 Sounds great. Okay, thank you. 265 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,232 Sounds great, thank you. 266 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:20,705 ♪♪ 267 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:28,480 ♪♪ 268 00:12:28,482 --> 00:12:31,349 WOLTER: Before I go any further with this investigation 269 00:12:31,351 --> 00:12:34,586 into whether the Vikings made a trip to the Southwest, 270 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:37,722 I need to know if these artifacts are authentic. 271 00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:41,760 ♪♪ 272 00:12:41,762 --> 00:12:43,762 Well, Dr. Kershaw -- Is Jane okay? 273 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:44,863 That's fine, yeah. 274 00:12:44,865 --> 00:12:46,231 What I want to talk to you about today 275 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:47,999 is what you think of these artifacts. 276 00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:50,368 Does the style and what you see here 277 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:51,870 look like they could be Viking? 278 00:12:51,872 --> 00:12:53,371 Yeah, sounds good. 279 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:56,007 WOLTER: First things first -- I show Jane the data 280 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:59,110 from the XRF testing I did in the field. 281 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:03,681 I find the test results promising, and she agrees. 282 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:05,450 Certainly, they look very consistent. 283 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:07,252 It's the results we would expect 284 00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:09,454 for early medieval artifacts, 285 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:11,089 but there's no substitute for actually having a look 286 00:13:11,091 --> 00:13:14,058 at the items themselves. 287 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:17,195 And they're not big, as you can see. 288 00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,063 They're always so much smaller than you think they are. 289 00:13:19,065 --> 00:13:20,165 [ Laughing ] Oh. 290 00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:23,234 ♪♪ 291 00:13:23,236 --> 00:13:26,638 Okay, interesting. 292 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,274 This is a Viking-age broach. 293 00:13:29,276 --> 00:13:30,642 Really? 294 00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:33,311 Women would have worn these in pairs on the shoulder... 295 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:34,312 Right. 296 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:36,614 ...right about here. 297 00:13:36,616 --> 00:13:38,883 They're really distinctive animal art. 298 00:13:38,885 --> 00:13:41,619 They came into Scandinavia around about 800. 299 00:13:41,621 --> 00:13:43,288 This is definitely 10th century. 300 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:44,789 That's incredible. 301 00:13:44,791 --> 00:13:46,791 And so how about this guy here? 302 00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:48,927 This is the bottom plate 303 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:50,995 of a very particular type of broach 304 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:52,831 known as a box broach. 305 00:13:52,833 --> 00:13:54,866 WOLTER: Viking women wore box broaches 306 00:13:54,868 --> 00:13:57,202 to secure their shawls at their collars. 307 00:13:57,204 --> 00:13:59,571 ♪♪ 308 00:13:59,573 --> 00:14:01,206 Well, so far, you're batting a thousand. 309 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:03,808 I'm very curious to see what else there is. 310 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:07,078 We have several pieces here. 311 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,181 This is a crossbow broach 312 00:14:10,183 --> 00:14:14,219 that was really popular with the Roman military elites, 313 00:14:14,221 --> 00:14:15,386 so it's not Vikings. 314 00:14:15,388 --> 00:14:17,222 It's a little bit earlier than that. 315 00:14:17,224 --> 00:14:18,456 So older than Viking? 316 00:14:18,458 --> 00:14:21,559 Definitely older than Viking -- 3rd, 4th century A.D. 317 00:14:21,561 --> 00:14:22,794 A.D., okay. 318 00:14:22,796 --> 00:14:26,097 They would have been trade objects worn by men. 319 00:14:26,099 --> 00:14:27,265 Well, that's interesting. 320 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:30,935 This is a mix of things from a wide time period. 321 00:14:30,937 --> 00:14:34,272 WOLTER: Because some of the artifacts are older than Viking, 322 00:14:34,274 --> 00:14:37,008 it's possible they took them from lands they raided 323 00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:38,509 to add to their collection, 324 00:14:38,511 --> 00:14:40,979 like souvenirs or trophies, 325 00:14:40,981 --> 00:14:43,781 though there is no way to know for sure. 326 00:14:43,783 --> 00:14:45,683 One thing that is certain, 327 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:50,388 Bonnie and Harry do have some authentic Viking artifacts. 328 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:53,358 There are some clear Viking-age pieces. 329 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,427 These ones are Viking-age, 10th century. 330 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:59,030 So, I'm satisfied with all of your conclusions, 331 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:01,799 but the big question is how did these artifacts 332 00:15:01,801 --> 00:15:06,037 in that saddlebag get in the desert in Arizona? 333 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:07,939 It's quite interesting that it's found in North America 334 00:15:07,941 --> 00:15:10,341 'cause it's quite rare, really, for that to happen. 335 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:11,976 It does make me wonder 336 00:15:11,978 --> 00:15:14,078 whether the Scandinavian migrations 337 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,414 to the Midwest in America 338 00:15:16,416 --> 00:15:18,716 might have something to do with the story. 339 00:15:18,718 --> 00:15:21,019 If you have kind of family treasures, 340 00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,021 family heirlooms that get passed down 341 00:15:23,023 --> 00:15:24,322 and then somebody emigrates, 342 00:15:24,324 --> 00:15:26,624 leaves Scandinavia, ends up in America, 343 00:15:26,626 --> 00:15:30,128 maybe that's a partial explanation for this. 344 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,864 WOLTER: Dr. Kershaw's theory is certainly plausible 345 00:15:32,866 --> 00:15:35,233 and one that I'm already considering, 346 00:15:35,235 --> 00:15:37,568 but I also know Viking voyagers 347 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:40,138 could have brought these over themselves 348 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,541 if ancient Lake Cahuilla was deep enough. 349 00:15:43,543 --> 00:15:45,510 In addition to telling Bonnie and Harry 350 00:15:45,512 --> 00:15:47,345 that their artifacts are legit, 351 00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:50,682 I'd like to tell them more definitively how they got there. 352 00:15:50,684 --> 00:15:58,556 ♪♪ 353 00:15:58,558 --> 00:16:06,431 ♪♪ 354 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:10,702 I've come to Travertine Point in southern California. 355 00:16:10,704 --> 00:16:12,737 Today, this giant rock outcrop 356 00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:17,108 is just a mile away from the iconic Salton Sea. 357 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:18,843 Over 1,000 years ago, 358 00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:20,845 it would have been in the northwest quadrant 359 00:16:20,847 --> 00:16:24,716 of Lake Cahuilla's 2,000 square mile spread. 360 00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:27,518 I'm climbing high atop this outcrop 361 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,054 to look for a porous rock called tufa, 362 00:16:30,056 --> 00:16:34,158 which only exists in places once covered with water. 363 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,427 It doesn't take me long to find some, 364 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:39,564 which proves the water level was high enough for the Vikings 365 00:16:39,566 --> 00:16:43,334 to have used this lake to get inland to the Southwest. 366 00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:46,404 And that's good news because there's a legend 367 00:16:46,406 --> 00:16:49,907 of a Viking ship doing exactly that. 368 00:16:49,909 --> 00:16:52,076 I've asked a man who's spent over a decade 369 00:16:52,078 --> 00:16:55,880 researching the fascinating tale to meet me here. 370 00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:57,448 John? Scott. 371 00:16:57,450 --> 00:16:58,983 Good to meet you. [ Laughing ] Nice to meet you. 372 00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:00,885 Can I join you? Sure, have a seat. 373 00:17:00,887 --> 00:17:02,387 [ Grunts ] 374 00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:04,555 So, John, I understand you're the guy that knows 375 00:17:04,557 --> 00:17:08,092 about this Viking ship buried in the desert out here? 376 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:10,094 Yes, I've spent years, decades even, 377 00:17:10,096 --> 00:17:12,230 chasing down this story. 378 00:17:12,232 --> 00:17:15,500 I just came from looking at a cache of artifacts 379 00:17:15,502 --> 00:17:16,768 that look authentic. 380 00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:18,803 They also look like they might be Viking. 381 00:17:18,805 --> 00:17:20,138 In the Southwest you found this? 382 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:21,139 In Sedona. 383 00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:22,707 Oh, my God! 384 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:24,475 You see this right here? Mm-hmm. 385 00:17:24,477 --> 00:17:26,911 This is the tufa that's coating this granite. 386 00:17:26,913 --> 00:17:28,312 Okay. 387 00:17:28,314 --> 00:17:30,381 Take this diluted hydrochloric acid 388 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:32,683 and just drop it on the surface. 389 00:17:32,685 --> 00:17:34,352 You see how it reacts? Oh, wow! The fizzing. 390 00:17:34,354 --> 00:17:35,586 That's the tufa. 391 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:38,856 That's the secondary deposit that grew on this granite 392 00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:40,558 when the water level was up higher. 393 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,393 That proves it was under water then. 394 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:45,763 Based on this, there's no question that the water level, 395 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:48,332 the lake was absolutely up this high. 396 00:17:48,334 --> 00:17:50,868 WOLTER: It's possible someone, like a cowboy, 397 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:52,603 found Harry Atkins' artifacts 398 00:17:52,605 --> 00:17:54,338 somewhere in the dried-up lake bed 399 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,340 and put them in his saddlebag, 400 00:17:56,342 --> 00:17:59,177 which is how they were originally found. 401 00:17:59,179 --> 00:18:01,045 WOLTER: This lake level would have been high enough 402 00:18:01,047 --> 00:18:04,282 for a Viking ship to have been able to come in here. 403 00:18:04,284 --> 00:18:06,984 Geologically and geographically, 404 00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:09,087 the pieces are really coming together. 405 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:11,355 Well, you know what I would really like to do? 406 00:18:11,357 --> 00:18:13,291 Find that ship. Me too. 407 00:18:13,293 --> 00:18:16,094 Where do you think the location of this Viking ship is? 408 00:18:16,096 --> 00:18:17,195 Not far at all 409 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:19,363 in a town called Imperial, California, 410 00:18:19,365 --> 00:18:21,132 and the town location 411 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:23,568 would have been almost dead center 412 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,903 of the southern part of Lake Cahuilla. 413 00:18:25,905 --> 00:18:27,872 Okay. Well, that's gonna be the next stop. 414 00:18:27,874 --> 00:18:29,607 Well, I'd love to tag along with you, 415 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:31,709 but there's a stop to make first. 416 00:18:31,711 --> 00:18:33,044 What's that? 417 00:18:33,046 --> 00:18:35,680 Scott, I want you to hear from an eyewitness 418 00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:37,415 who actually saw the ship. 419 00:18:37,417 --> 00:18:38,850 An eyewitness? Yes. 420 00:18:38,852 --> 00:18:42,253 ♪♪ 421 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:55,032 John, you're telling me there was an eyewitness 422 00:18:55,034 --> 00:18:57,135 who actually saw this Viking ship? 423 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:58,136 When did he see it? 424 00:18:58,138 --> 00:18:59,604 In the early 1900s. 425 00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:01,939 The guy's name is Elmer Carver. 426 00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:04,876 He recorded what he saw in 1964, 427 00:19:04,878 --> 00:19:06,477 then he died shortly after. 428 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:10,114 Primary-source material is always the golden thread. 429 00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:12,783 So, what did he see? 430 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:16,621 Around 1907, Elmer Carver worked for a local farmer 431 00:19:16,623 --> 00:19:18,356 by the name of Niles Jacobsen. 432 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,458 And when he went to Jacobsen's farm, 433 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,729 the first thing he noticed that the boards on the hog pen 434 00:19:24,731 --> 00:19:26,764 were really long, really thick, 435 00:19:26,766 --> 00:19:29,800 and were held up by pegs instead of nails. 436 00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,602 So he goes, "Well, that's odd." 437 00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:32,937 And he asked Jacobsen about it, 438 00:19:32,939 --> 00:19:35,907 and Jacobsen says, "Oh, I get them from ship." 439 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:37,675 And he goes, "What are you talking about, a ship?" 440 00:19:37,677 --> 00:19:40,344 Didn't really go into detail over it right then and there, 441 00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:42,380 but Jacobsen showed him all the chores he had to do, 442 00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,781 then the next day, Carver went out 443 00:19:43,783 --> 00:19:44,849 and looked at the ship. 444 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:46,617 That's when he found out what it was. 445 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:48,119 So, he actually saw it? 446 00:19:48,121 --> 00:19:50,421 Physically touched the ship. 447 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:51,989 Nobody has really listened to the tape 448 00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:54,158 other than the guy who owns the tape and myself, 449 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,795 but I've been granted the extreme special permission 450 00:19:57,797 --> 00:19:59,931 to allow you to listen to the tape. 451 00:19:59,933 --> 00:20:01,399 Well, I sure appreciate that. 452 00:20:01,401 --> 00:20:02,567 The only issue with this 453 00:20:02,569 --> 00:20:06,037 is it's a very old reel-to-reel recording. 454 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,005 WOLTER: John only got the tape recently 455 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:11,776 and hasn't had it transferred over to a more modern medium. 456 00:20:11,778 --> 00:20:13,844 After you, pal. Thank you. 457 00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:16,747 WOLTER: Good thing we found Simply At Home Antiques, 458 00:20:16,749 --> 00:20:20,218 and the shop let us use their reel-to-reel player. 459 00:20:20,220 --> 00:20:23,120 Aha! 460 00:20:23,122 --> 00:20:31,796 ♪♪ 461 00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:35,333 As we're putting on this reel with Elmer Carver's testimony, 462 00:20:35,335 --> 00:20:38,502 I can't believe I'm going to be one of only a couple people 463 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:39,971 to ever hear it. 464 00:20:39,973 --> 00:20:41,505 I'm really hoping there are clues 465 00:20:41,507 --> 00:20:43,307 that could lead us to the ship. 466 00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:48,379 ♪♪ 467 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:54,619 CARVER: I had gone out and looked at this...wreck of the boat. 468 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:59,123 That was a peculiar looking thing. 469 00:20:59,125 --> 00:21:03,861 About 200 foot... in back of the house. 470 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,563 WOLTER: About 200 feet. 471 00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:07,531 Well, if we can find out where the house was... 472 00:21:07,533 --> 00:21:08,699 GRASSON: That's the key. 473 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:11,335 That's what I've been searching for for years. 474 00:21:11,337 --> 00:21:18,843 There was a bow of the boat all just stuck up 475 00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:21,946 about six foot out of the ground. 476 00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:27,118 The stern post...that stuck up 477 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:31,956 about maybe four feet above the ground. 478 00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:35,993 And then along each were the ribs of the boat, 479 00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:38,496 so it looked like a skeleton. 480 00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:41,932 But some of the ribs were missing. 481 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:46,904 Also on that hog pen was some kind of looked like metal, 482 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:50,808 and I've always wondered where he got that metal. 483 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:55,846 But I think that was some of the sheathing off of that ship. 484 00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:58,115 Metal could have been on the front of the ship, on the bow, 485 00:21:58,117 --> 00:22:00,618 when they were going through the Northwest Passage. 486 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:01,619 Didn't even think about that. 487 00:22:01,621 --> 00:22:04,555 Protect it from ice. 488 00:22:04,557 --> 00:22:08,259 WOLTER: Elmer's account of the ship goes on for 45 minutes. 489 00:22:08,261 --> 00:22:11,228 It sounds like the ship was 50 to 60 feet long 490 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:13,597 and was broken apart by Niles the farmer, 491 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:16,400 who used its wood and metal for the hog pen 492 00:22:16,402 --> 00:22:18,936 and other things on his property. 493 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,806 Over time, the ship was simply forgotten... 494 00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:24,675 ♪♪ 495 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:27,011 ...more legend than anything else. 496 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:28,479 ♪♪ 497 00:22:28,481 --> 00:22:32,483 Well, Elmer is a very interesting firsthand witness. 498 00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:34,151 I mean, he definitely saw the ship. 499 00:22:34,153 --> 00:22:36,420 That is critical, and for the most part, 500 00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:38,222 I thought he sounded really credible. 501 00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:39,890 He provides a lot of details. 502 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:41,759 I mean, you know, the bow was sticking up 503 00:22:41,761 --> 00:22:44,628 six feet above the ground after the storm uncovered it. 504 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:45,763 I liked the fact 505 00:22:45,765 --> 00:22:47,698 that he said that there was a mound before. 506 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:49,066 It was uncovered. 507 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,701 He saw the ribs of the ship. 508 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:53,170 He said it's 200 feet behind the house. 509 00:22:53,172 --> 00:22:55,639 I mean, we've got a lot of details here to follow up on. 510 00:22:55,641 --> 00:22:56,640 Absolutely. 511 00:22:56,642 --> 00:22:58,409 I also like he mentioned the metal. 512 00:22:58,411 --> 00:23:01,545 I mean, if it was all wood, that's one type of a search, 513 00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:02,980 but if there's metal involved, 514 00:23:02,982 --> 00:23:05,383 well, that opens up a whole bunch of other things 515 00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:06,717 like metal detecting. 516 00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:09,553 And if that ship is truly a Viking ship 517 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:12,089 that came here 1,000 years ago, 518 00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:14,425 that rewrites the whole history book. 519 00:23:14,427 --> 00:23:18,396 ♪♪ 520 00:23:20,032 --> 00:23:25,169 ♪♪ 521 00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:30,307 ♪♪ 522 00:23:30,309 --> 00:23:32,143 WOLTER: John and I picked up plat maps 523 00:23:32,145 --> 00:23:34,245 at the local property records department 524 00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:35,913 and together try to figure out 525 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:39,483 exactly where Niles Jacobsen's property was located 526 00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:42,987 to narrow down an area where the ship might be. 527 00:23:42,989 --> 00:23:45,856 This is a 1908 survey map, 528 00:23:45,858 --> 00:23:48,626 and this shows all the farm and ranch areas 529 00:23:48,628 --> 00:23:50,127 that were east of Imperial. 530 00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:53,297 Jacobsen owned one, two, three, four, 531 00:23:53,299 --> 00:23:55,266 five, and six properties. Okay. 532 00:23:55,268 --> 00:23:56,600 But you have to match that up 533 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,836 with what Carver said on the tape, as well -- 534 00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:00,137 what year, what time -- 535 00:24:00,139 --> 00:24:02,840 'cause he didn't buy all this property at the same time, 536 00:24:02,842 --> 00:24:05,242 and that leads us to tract 164. 537 00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:07,144 So, you think this is the tract 538 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:10,114 where he saw the ship 200 feet behind the house? Yes. 539 00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:11,582 So, you know what we have to do now? 540 00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,017 What's that? We have to figure out 541 00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:15,753 who owns that property today. 542 00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:21,959 ♪♪ 543 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:28,199 ♪♪ 544 00:24:28,201 --> 00:24:30,835 After making a few calls, John and I learned 545 00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:33,337 that the Jacobsen house that used to be there 546 00:24:33,339 --> 00:24:36,073 isn't standing anymore. 547 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:38,742 But we know where it would have been, 548 00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:41,545 and we find out a family of dairy farmers, 549 00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:44,682 the Schaffners, own the farm today. 550 00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:51,355 ♪♪ 551 00:24:51,357 --> 00:24:52,923 Hello. How can I help you gentlemen? 552 00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:55,125 You look like a guy with an open mind. 553 00:24:55,127 --> 00:24:56,293 Uh, I don't know. 554 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:59,263 [ Laughs ] Well, I'm a forensic geologist, 555 00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:02,266 and I investigate mysteries all over the United States. 556 00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:04,168 We're investigating this whole possibility 557 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:05,736 that maybe Vikings could have come 558 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:07,638 into the Southwest area here, 559 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,273 as you know, living in this area, 560 00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:11,308 that there was a giant lake here at one time. 561 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:12,543 That is true. 562 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:14,478 Have you ever heard the legend of a Viking ship 563 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,847 buried in the desert somewhere around here? 564 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:18,249 I actually have. 565 00:25:18,251 --> 00:25:20,017 We think it might be on your property. 566 00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:21,719 You think it's on our property? 567 00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:23,654 Well, we're pretty convinced that it is. 568 00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:26,957 ♪♪ 569 00:25:26,959 --> 00:25:29,093 Here's the tract -- number 164 -- 570 00:25:29,095 --> 00:25:32,229 where we think that this Viking ship could be. 571 00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,297 Is that your property? 572 00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:34,431 Yeah, it is. 573 00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:36,100 Well, John and I just listened to a recording 574 00:25:36,102 --> 00:25:38,202 where we heard a firsthand witness tell us 575 00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:41,839 that there was a residence here, and 200 feet north, 576 00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:44,975 he said he saw a Viking ship. 577 00:25:44,977 --> 00:25:46,110 Really? 578 00:25:46,112 --> 00:25:47,244 What do you think? 579 00:25:47,246 --> 00:25:48,779 Well, I've heard the legend before, 580 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:51,682 but I never thought in a million years it would be on our farm. 581 00:25:51,684 --> 00:25:53,050 Here's what we'd like to do. 582 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:54,718 We'd like to bring in a geophysicist 583 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,186 with a magnetometer, 584 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:59,089 and he would scan the property in our area of interest, 585 00:25:59,091 --> 00:26:02,693 and if we do find some anomalies, we'd like to dig. 586 00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:04,628 You want to help us find a Viking ship? 587 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:06,030 SCHAFFNER: Well, I got a backhoe. 588 00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:08,165 I'd be more than happy to play in the dirt with you guys. 589 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:14,138 ♪♪ 590 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:20,144 ♪♪ 591 00:26:20,146 --> 00:26:22,580 WOLTER: I'm going to need help scanning below the ground 592 00:26:22,582 --> 00:26:26,250 for anything unusual to find a good spot to dig, 593 00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:29,486 so I reached out to geophysicist Patrick Lehrmann, 594 00:26:29,488 --> 00:26:31,922 who has tools to detect anomalies 595 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:34,491 that suggests things deeply buried. 596 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:37,928 I've updated him on everything we've learned so far. 597 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,163 Hey, Patrick. 598 00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:41,065 WOLTER: And it didn't take a lot of persuading 599 00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:43,367 to get him out here to help. 600 00:26:43,369 --> 00:26:45,970 Now, remember, we're talking about a wooden ship, 601 00:26:45,972 --> 00:26:47,471 and there were two kinds of Viking ships 602 00:26:47,473 --> 00:26:49,340 back about 1,000 years ago. 603 00:26:49,342 --> 00:26:51,976 There was a knarr, and then the long boat style 604 00:26:51,978 --> 00:26:55,879 that had the dragon on the front that everybody is familiar with. 605 00:26:55,881 --> 00:26:58,983 Viking long ships were the enviable vessels of the sea 606 00:26:58,985 --> 00:27:01,619 between the 8th and 11th centuries. 607 00:27:01,621 --> 00:27:03,387 Designed with a shallow hull, 608 00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:06,423 they were capable of reaching speeds of 15 knots 609 00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:08,759 or 17 miles per hour. 610 00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:11,028 These sleek ships were both sturdy enough 611 00:27:11,030 --> 00:27:12,563 to navigate rough seas, 612 00:27:12,565 --> 00:27:16,200 but light enough to be carried over portages as needed. 613 00:27:16,202 --> 00:27:18,769 And knarrs were sturdy cargo ships 614 00:27:18,771 --> 00:27:21,405 capable of carrying the spoils of Viking raids 615 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:24,241 up to 75 miles per day. 616 00:27:24,243 --> 00:27:25,576 There was a piece of metal 617 00:27:25,578 --> 00:27:27,878 reportedly found along with the wood. 618 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,615 We're thinking there was copper or brass or bronze sheets 619 00:27:31,617 --> 00:27:35,285 that were put on the front of the ship to protect it from ice. 620 00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:39,757 So you might encounter wood, metal, who knows what else. 621 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,992 LEHRMANN: I brought a number of different pieces of equipment, 622 00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:44,228 but I think that we should start with the magnetometer. 623 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:47,264 We can cover a lot of ground with that fairly quickly. 624 00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,033 I think our first stage should be to look 625 00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:52,102 for any anomalies we see over a larger area, 626 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,571 and then when we find some targets, 627 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,507 we should then focus on those 628 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:59,276 with a couple of other instruments, including the GPR. 629 00:27:59,278 --> 00:28:00,778 Well, Patrick, let's get after it. 630 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:03,981 ♪♪ 631 00:28:03,983 --> 00:28:06,950 We're covering six acres with the magnetometer, 632 00:28:06,952 --> 00:28:08,519 which can detect metals, 633 00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,155 and using the GPS in the exact spot 634 00:28:11,157 --> 00:28:14,391 where Elmer Carver said he saw this ship. 635 00:28:14,393 --> 00:28:16,493 [ Equipment beeping ] 636 00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:17,928 I hear plenty of beeping, 637 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:20,097 but we won't know what might be underground 638 00:28:20,099 --> 00:28:23,100 until we download the data to Patrick's computer, 639 00:28:23,102 --> 00:28:26,003 which takes just a few minutes. 640 00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:27,571 LEHRMANN: Finished processing the data, 641 00:28:27,573 --> 00:28:30,040 and I made a map of what I found. 642 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:33,010 The bright colors, the reds and the fuchsia and yellow, 643 00:28:33,012 --> 00:28:34,278 those are anomalies. 644 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,879 It's in the Southwest corner 645 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:38,048 where you thought the farmhouse would be 646 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:39,850 and potentially where the buried ship 647 00:28:39,852 --> 00:28:41,518 was supposed to be, as well. 648 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,388 So, basically, this little rectangle here 649 00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:45,856 is this strip right here. 650 00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:49,226 Yeah, it's about 200 feet long and extends 200 feet 651 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,095 from where we started over here. 652 00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:54,064 This almost looks like the ribs of the ship. 653 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:58,502 ♪♪ 654 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:09,179 ♪♪ 655 00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:12,116 [ Birds chirping ] 656 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:16,787 Look at how it's got these -- they look like ribs of a ship. 657 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:17,788 Possibly. 658 00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:19,223 But then right in the middle, 659 00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:23,026 which could be the keel of our Viking ship, 660 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,495 it looks like we got a hot spot. 661 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:27,131 Maybe that's where the metal was close to the keel. 662 00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:28,398 This is incredible. 663 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,135 I mean, do you really expect to find something like this? 664 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:32,669 I mean, this is absolutely cool. 665 00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:34,905 Hell, yes, I expected to find something. 666 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:37,141 Okay, so now this is getting scary. [ Laughs ] 667 00:29:37,143 --> 00:29:38,475 No, now it's getting fun. 668 00:29:38,477 --> 00:29:41,411 I mean, this is just like we heard on the tape, 669 00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,715 exactly like Elmer said on the reel-to-reel. 670 00:29:44,717 --> 00:29:45,783 I'm gonna get on the phone, 671 00:29:45,785 --> 00:29:47,584 get Chase out here with that backhoe. 672 00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:52,055 ♪♪ 673 00:29:52,057 --> 00:29:54,658 WOLTER: One of the challenges with scans like these 674 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:57,594 is that sometimes very small solid objects 675 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:00,063 appear much larger on screen, 676 00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:02,533 but I'm hoping for a very big find. 677 00:30:02,535 --> 00:30:06,703 ♪♪ 678 00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:08,705 Yeah, just clean it out, and then we're good. 679 00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:15,546 ♪♪ 680 00:30:15,548 --> 00:30:18,115 We should just dig through here and see what we find, 681 00:30:18,117 --> 00:30:20,584 if there's anything that might create that anomaly. 682 00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:22,352 We might take the instrument out 683 00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:24,388 and see if we have any responses here. 684 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:30,060 ♪♪ 685 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,729 [ Metal detector chirping ] 686 00:30:32,731 --> 00:30:38,001 ♪♪ 687 00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:43,273 ♪♪ 688 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:45,509 WOLTER: It's important to go through the piles of dirt 689 00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:49,746 that Chase is dumping to ensure that nothing gets by us. 690 00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,281 What the hell is that? 691 00:30:51,283 --> 00:30:52,516 Do you think it's wood? 692 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,885 You know what? This is not wood. 693 00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:56,753 This is clay. 694 00:30:56,755 --> 00:30:58,989 You see on the side, those little pieces there? 695 00:30:58,991 --> 00:31:01,425 Let's go in and look at that. 696 00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,428 Well, this is material that was at the bottom of the lake. 697 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:05,963 Do you see how it's got those lines? 698 00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:07,097 Yeah. 699 00:31:07,099 --> 00:31:10,734 They look like varves that you see in old lakes. 700 00:31:10,736 --> 00:31:12,736 WOLTER: The fact that we're finding these varves 701 00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:16,673 means the lake came this far into Imperial, California. 702 00:31:16,675 --> 00:31:18,175 But what about the ship? 703 00:31:18,177 --> 00:31:21,011 This is the lake bottom right here going all the way down. 704 00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:22,846 This is hardpan clay. 705 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:24,915 If the ship was here, okay, 706 00:31:24,917 --> 00:31:28,185 it would be probably in this zone here 707 00:31:28,187 --> 00:31:29,987 sitting on top of the mud. 708 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:32,489 It doesn't make any sense to go deeper 709 00:31:32,491 --> 00:31:35,425 because this would have been pretty hard mud, 710 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:37,928 and if the ship was sticking up out of the ground... 711 00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:39,563 It wouldn't have been any further down. 712 00:31:39,565 --> 00:31:41,365 Well, it certainly wouldn't be deeper than this. 713 00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:42,699 Yeah. 714 00:31:42,701 --> 00:31:45,636 Well, you're convinced that the anomaly 715 00:31:45,638 --> 00:31:48,605 that you got is metal, and it's here somewhere. 716 00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:49,873 Yeah, it has to be. 717 00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:51,575 Why don't you take the metal detector. 718 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:54,311 Let's do the piles. Go through them carefully. 719 00:31:54,313 --> 00:31:55,312 Sounds great. 720 00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:58,048 [ Metal detector chirping lightly ] 721 00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:06,356 ♪♪ 722 00:32:06,358 --> 00:32:10,761 [ Chirping intensifies ] 723 00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:11,995 Hey [Laughing] Scott. 724 00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:13,163 I got something here. 725 00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:15,766 [ Chirping continues ] 726 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:21,805 ♪♪ 727 00:32:21,807 --> 00:32:23,507 Here, hand me that shovel. 728 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:25,842 [ Chirping continues ] 729 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:27,644 [ Strained ] All right. Yep. 730 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:28,879 [ Grunts ] 731 00:32:28,881 --> 00:32:30,547 [ Chirping intensifies ] 732 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:37,220 ♪♪ 733 00:32:37,222 --> 00:32:38,655 That felt like metal. 734 00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:41,325 Yep, there's something there. 735 00:32:41,327 --> 00:32:42,926 Wait, what is that? Listen. 736 00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:44,461 [ Shovel thuds ] 737 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:45,562 Did you hear that? 738 00:32:45,564 --> 00:32:46,697 What is it? 739 00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:48,265 [ Laughing ] Oh! 740 00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:53,937 ♪♪ 741 00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:59,609 ♪♪ 742 00:32:59,611 --> 00:33:02,846 That's a piece of rebar. 743 00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:05,782 So you're confident this was our anomaly that we hit here? 744 00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:07,484 I'm sure this is what we were seeing. 745 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:10,988 It's disappointing. We had good data. 746 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,790 WOLTER: So, how did a small piece of rebar show up 747 00:33:13,792 --> 00:33:17,394 as such a huge reading on Patrick's magnetometer? 748 00:33:17,396 --> 00:33:19,329 Turns out, the answer is simple, 749 00:33:19,331 --> 00:33:21,832 but it's also over our heads. 750 00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:23,967 It's power lines. 751 00:33:23,969 --> 00:33:26,103 They can sometimes cause interference 752 00:33:26,105 --> 00:33:28,105 in geophysical data. 753 00:33:28,107 --> 00:33:30,574 In this case, I think the magnetometer 754 00:33:30,576 --> 00:33:34,044 picked up the electricity coursing through these lines, 755 00:33:34,046 --> 00:33:37,914 leading us to believe we'd be finding something much larger. 756 00:33:37,916 --> 00:33:39,216 Hey, Chase. 757 00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:41,418 Thanks for letting me put some holes in your property. 758 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:43,553 I appreciate it. No problem. It was fun. 759 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:45,122 Maybe next time, we'll find a Viking ship. 760 00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:46,123 Yeah, next time. 761 00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:49,726 ♪♪ 762 00:33:49,728 --> 00:33:52,529 WOLTER: Well, John [Sighs] we gave it our best effort, 763 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:56,800 and as you can see... no Viking ship. 764 00:33:56,802 --> 00:33:58,335 I'm happy that we're here. 765 00:33:58,337 --> 00:33:59,870 I'm happy that you gave it a shot. 766 00:33:59,872 --> 00:34:01,505 Only thing I can say is it's just not here. 767 00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:02,939 It doesn't mean it's not here. 768 00:34:02,941 --> 00:34:04,574 It's just not here. 769 00:34:04,576 --> 00:34:06,777 And I'm very happy with what you've done. 770 00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:07,878 Thank you very much. 771 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,146 Well, you're quite welcome, 772 00:34:09,148 --> 00:34:11,314 and I'm not gonna give up on this story 773 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:13,316 just because we didn't find a ship. 774 00:34:13,318 --> 00:34:14,684 I'm not done yet. 775 00:34:14,686 --> 00:34:21,925 ♪♪ 776 00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:29,166 ♪♪ 777 00:34:29,168 --> 00:34:32,669 I'm crossing the Mexican border into Baja California 778 00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:35,639 where the Seri Indians have a legend of a longboat 779 00:34:35,641 --> 00:34:37,107 arriving on their shores 780 00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:40,310 carrying strange tall people with yellow hair. 781 00:34:40,312 --> 00:34:43,713 And the front of their boat was shaped like a dragon. 782 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:46,116 The Seris even immortalized the legend 783 00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:49,453 by carving what they saw in stone. 784 00:34:49,455 --> 00:34:52,322 I've only ever seen a picture of the petroglyph, 785 00:34:52,324 --> 00:34:53,957 but I've called a local historian 786 00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:57,194 to lead me to it so I can try to date it. 787 00:34:57,196 --> 00:35:00,030 If it's old enough, then maybe the Seri Indians 788 00:35:00,032 --> 00:35:02,866 witnessed a band of Vikings that could have carried 789 00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:05,902 Harry Atkins' artifacts into the desert. 790 00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:08,705 This petroglyph that we're gonna look at is so important, 791 00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:11,074 and I'm really anxious to see it. 792 00:35:11,076 --> 00:35:13,343 So, tell me a little bit more about it. 793 00:35:13,345 --> 00:35:16,313 What it shows is that the native people, 794 00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:18,548 from over 1,000 years ago perhaps, 795 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:21,451 saw this ship go by, and it moved them so much 796 00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:23,153 that they had to inscribe it into rock. 797 00:35:23,155 --> 00:35:26,089 Well, this wouldn't be the first petroglyph of a ship 798 00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:28,125 that looked to be European 799 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,794 carved by Native Americans that I've seen. 800 00:35:30,796 --> 00:35:33,897 There's actually one right near the shore of Lake Superior 801 00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:36,333 up in the U.P. of Michigan. 802 00:35:36,335 --> 00:35:39,236 WOLTER: The ship carving has the same square-shaped sail 803 00:35:39,238 --> 00:35:43,006 as the petroglyph I'm about to check out in Baja. 804 00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:45,842 In the past, I've also considered whether that ship 805 00:35:45,844 --> 00:35:48,211 was Minoan, a Mediterranean culture 806 00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:50,981 that used a sail similar to the Vikings. 807 00:35:50,983 --> 00:35:54,651 But I think both carvings could be evidence that not one, 808 00:35:54,653 --> 00:35:56,786 but multiple Viking voyages 809 00:35:56,788 --> 00:36:00,423 ended far into the lands of the new world. 810 00:36:00,425 --> 00:36:05,295 ♪♪ 811 00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:06,496 Look at the size of that thing. 812 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,965 Yeah. And they get bigger. 813 00:36:08,967 --> 00:36:10,767 ♪♪ 814 00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:11,968 Watch your footing. 815 00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:15,038 I'll take a bullet if there's a rattlesnake. 816 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,510 ♪♪ 817 00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:25,949 ♪♪ 818 00:36:25,951 --> 00:36:27,284 Oh [Laughing] there it is. 819 00:36:27,286 --> 00:36:31,454 ♪♪ 820 00:36:31,456 --> 00:36:33,156 This sticks out like a sore thumb. 821 00:36:33,158 --> 00:36:35,725 I see a ship, I see the curved bow, 822 00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:41,498 and it looks like it could be a Viking ship. 823 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:43,500 You've got what looks like a sail 824 00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:45,235 standing on a vertical mast 825 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,971 right in the middle that has upturned front end 826 00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:49,806 and an upturned back end. 827 00:36:49,808 --> 00:36:51,808 Just look at the detail that went into the sail, 828 00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:53,777 and something definitely stood out 829 00:36:53,779 --> 00:36:56,713 with these people on what they saw. 830 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:58,114 That almost looks like a tongue, 831 00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:02,452 or water coming out of the mouth of a dragon, or a snake. 832 00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:05,622 ♪♪ 833 00:37:05,624 --> 00:37:07,624 Take a look at this. 834 00:37:07,626 --> 00:37:09,359 You can see the bow of the ship. 835 00:37:09,361 --> 00:37:12,762 There's your rectangular sail, a single mast. 836 00:37:12,764 --> 00:37:15,198 You've got the dragon on the front. 837 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,500 It looks very, very similar. 838 00:37:17,502 --> 00:37:21,271 WOLTER: What I'm most interested in is this petroglyph's age. 839 00:37:21,273 --> 00:37:25,075 The Vikings were exploring around the year 1,000 A.D. 840 00:37:25,077 --> 00:37:29,379 If this petroglyph is as old as that, it could be a connection. 841 00:37:29,381 --> 00:37:33,216 WOLTER: Obviously, scholars and academics have looked at this. 842 00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,951 How old do they say this is? 843 00:37:34,953 --> 00:37:39,522 They've dated it approximately 1,000 to 1,500 A.D. 844 00:37:39,524 --> 00:37:41,324 Well [Laughing] that's right in our wheelhouse 845 00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:42,659 for the Vikings. 846 00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:44,928 I'm gonna take a closer look at this with my hand lens. 847 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:49,599 ♪♪ 848 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:52,135 This is granite. 849 00:37:52,137 --> 00:37:54,371 Looks like some quartz, 850 00:37:54,373 --> 00:37:59,175 micas, and organics built up on the surface. 851 00:37:59,177 --> 00:38:02,212 They're also starting to build up again within the lines, 852 00:38:02,214 --> 00:38:04,381 so this has been here a while. 853 00:38:04,383 --> 00:38:08,718 As far as how old it is, you know, 1,000 to 1,500 -- 854 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,720 this petroglyph could prove 855 00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:13,323 that the Vikings did come to the Southwest, 856 00:38:13,325 --> 00:38:15,191 and if that all pans out, 857 00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:18,228 we're talking about a huge historical rewrite. 858 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:21,598 ♪♪ 859 00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:34,110 WOLTER: Back in Minneapolis, it's time to give Harry Atkins a call. 860 00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:37,547 Delivering good news is the best part of my job, 861 00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:40,417 but it doesn't happen all the time. 862 00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:44,287 The reality is, it's rare for authentic ancient artifacts 863 00:38:44,289 --> 00:38:48,391 to be found in this country that aren't Native American. 864 00:38:48,393 --> 00:38:50,226 I can't wait to tell Harry 865 00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:52,462 what he and Bonnie have their hands on. 866 00:38:52,464 --> 00:38:54,030 ♪♪ 867 00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:55,565 Hey, Harry. How you doing? 868 00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:57,067 I'm doing good, sir. 869 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:59,035 Are you ready for the results? 870 00:38:59,037 --> 00:39:00,270 I am. I'm more than ready. 871 00:39:00,272 --> 00:39:01,971 I'm excited to hear what you have to say. 872 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:04,474 I had been looking for almost 20 years 873 00:39:04,476 --> 00:39:08,144 for real Viking artifacts that were found here 874 00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:09,179 in the United States. 875 00:39:09,181 --> 00:39:11,481 And guess what? 876 00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:12,916 You have them! 877 00:39:12,918 --> 00:39:13,917 Wow! 878 00:39:13,919 --> 00:39:15,118 They are real. 879 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,821 They are genuine Viking artifacts, 880 00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:20,323 and I don't know if I'm more excited than you. 881 00:39:20,325 --> 00:39:21,858 I think it might be me. 882 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,326 But let's ask the question 883 00:39:23,328 --> 00:39:26,496 that everybody's gonna ask, right? 884 00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:27,764 How did they get there? 885 00:39:27,766 --> 00:39:28,898 Exactly. 886 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:33,303 Now, the possibilities, realistically, are two. 887 00:39:33,305 --> 00:39:37,440 The first is that we had an immigrant from Scandinavia 888 00:39:37,442 --> 00:39:39,409 that brought these artifacts with them, 889 00:39:39,411 --> 00:39:42,245 but let's take a look at it from the other possibility. 890 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:45,582 What if it was Vikings that brought these artifacts 891 00:39:45,584 --> 00:39:48,685 that they collected and then brought them over here. 892 00:39:48,687 --> 00:39:49,919 Right. 893 00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:52,989 Probably the most compelling evidence -- down in Baja, 894 00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:55,592 I saw a petroglyph, and in my opinion, 895 00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:57,394 it looked like a Viking ship. 896 00:39:57,396 --> 00:39:58,728 Wow. 897 00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:01,431 There is a Native American legend with the Seri tribe 898 00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:04,067 that is right there near where this petroglyph 899 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:08,638 was that talks about a ship that had blond-haired, 900 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,909 blue-eyed people that was sailing to the north, 901 00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:16,246 and this fits in perfect with the thesis that we have 902 00:40:16,248 --> 00:40:20,183 that the Vikings could have made it across the Northwest Passage, 903 00:40:20,185 --> 00:40:24,220 came around Alaska, the West Coast around Baja, 904 00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:27,457 up the Gulf of California into the Salton Sea, 905 00:40:27,459 --> 00:40:30,527 and then maybe just a little bit beyond to Sedona. 906 00:40:30,529 --> 00:40:33,463 [ Laughs ] Oh, I'm excited. That's really cool to hear. 907 00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:35,098 You got to be thinking about your dad. 908 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,733 I mean, what would he say 909 00:40:36,735 --> 00:40:39,235 if he could be part of this conversation? 910 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:42,572 He would say this is, you know, this is so cool that, 911 00:40:42,574 --> 00:40:45,141 you know, these items were found. 912 00:40:45,143 --> 00:40:46,609 They're brought here. 913 00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,845 You followed where they came from, 914 00:40:48,847 --> 00:40:52,749 but not only that, it adds a new possibility, or page, 915 00:40:52,751 --> 00:40:55,952 to what is given history, so to speak. 916 00:40:55,954 --> 00:40:57,220 It may have taken a while. 917 00:40:57,222 --> 00:41:00,056 Unfortunately, he didn't live to see it, 918 00:41:00,058 --> 00:41:03,259 but there's a part of me that thinks he's watching this, 919 00:41:03,261 --> 00:41:04,494 and he knows. 920 00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:06,296 Me too. Me too. 921 00:41:06,298 --> 00:41:08,431 ♪♪ 922 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:10,366 WOLTER: The quest for the truth in this case 923 00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:13,670 has been a Viking saga of the modern age. 924 00:41:13,672 --> 00:41:15,605 There's no question Bonnie and Harry 925 00:41:15,607 --> 00:41:20,210 have authentic Viking artifacts over 1,000 years old, 926 00:41:20,212 --> 00:41:22,078 and whether they were brought here on a ship 927 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,947 in 1,000 A.D. 928 00:41:23,949 --> 00:41:26,149 or found their way here some other way, 929 00:41:26,151 --> 00:41:30,220 this is a fantastic story no matter what. 930 00:41:30,222 --> 00:41:34,023 In ancient history, the legend of the Vikings loom large, 931 00:41:34,025 --> 00:41:37,660 but I think their real journeys are even more amazing 932 00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:41,064 and are adventures we're only beginning to understand. 933 00:41:43,268 --> 00:41:45,001 If you have a mysterious artifact 934 00:41:45,003 --> 00:41:47,871 or site I need to see, I want to know about it. 935 00:41:47,873 --> 00:41:52,108 Go to travelchannel.com /americaunearthed. 81238

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