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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:02,999 Tonight on the "Proof is Out There"... 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,291 Is a UFO swimming over Colorado? 3 00:00:05,292 --> 00:00:07,291 What the are those? 4 00:00:07,292 --> 00:00:10,374 Is a poltergeist destroying this office? 5 00:00:10,375 --> 00:00:12,041 To the layperson, this video 6 00:00:12,042 --> 00:00:15,874 is the pinpoint definition of paranormal activity. 7 00:00:15,875 --> 00:00:17,082 Did this elephant learn to talk? 8 00:00:17,083 --> 00:00:18,541 Jo-ah. 9 00:00:18,542 --> 00:00:19,999 Jo-ah. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,957 And you know about the rings of Saturn, 11 00:00:21,958 --> 00:00:25,124 but can you solve the mystery of its hexagon? 12 00:00:30,292 --> 00:00:32,207 Around the globe are videos... 13 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:33,916 What are those things? 14 00:00:33,917 --> 00:00:35,416 It's moving. 15 00:00:35,417 --> 00:00:38,874 Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 16 00:00:44,208 --> 00:00:46,041 We don't know where they come from, 17 00:00:46,042 --> 00:00:47,791 who made them or how they operate. 18 00:00:47,792 --> 00:00:49,166 What are they? 19 00:00:49,167 --> 00:00:50,874 Some sort of bizarre mutation. 20 00:00:50,875 --> 00:00:52,624 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 21 00:00:52,625 --> 00:00:55,957 Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 22 00:00:57,833 --> 00:00:59,832 I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist 23 00:00:59,833 --> 00:01:01,207 for more than 30 years, 24 00:01:01,208 --> 00:01:04,124 I've followed the facts where they take me. 25 00:01:04,125 --> 00:01:06,457 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 26 00:01:06,458 --> 00:01:09,083 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 27 00:01:10,125 --> 00:01:13,082 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 28 00:01:13,083 --> 00:01:16,124 It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 29 00:01:16,125 --> 00:01:18,957 And pass the verdict on what it is. 30 00:01:18,958 --> 00:01:20,957 This video is clearly fake. 31 00:01:20,958 --> 00:01:23,041 The proof, starts now. 32 00:01:30,542 --> 00:01:33,541 Good evening and welcome to the "Proof is Out There". 33 00:01:33,542 --> 00:01:35,707 Although famous for its natural beauty, 34 00:01:35,708 --> 00:01:37,457 Colorado Springs is also known 35 00:01:37,458 --> 00:01:39,666 for its numerous military bases 36 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:42,291 like the United States Air Force Academy 37 00:01:42,292 --> 00:01:45,207 and its large number of UFO sightings, 38 00:01:45,208 --> 00:01:47,166 as our next video will show you. 39 00:01:47,167 --> 00:01:49,249 If you want to see something truly unique 40 00:01:49,250 --> 00:01:53,207 while visiting the area, I suggest you look up. 41 00:01:53,208 --> 00:01:57,207 August 29th, 2021, Colorado Springs, Colorado, 42 00:01:57,208 --> 00:02:00,625 Josh Stoner is driving when he spots this in the sky. 43 00:02:02,167 --> 00:02:03,707 That's in the sky right now, everybody. 44 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:06,207 Two mysterious, somewhat menacing objects 45 00:02:06,208 --> 00:02:08,416 hover in the distance. 46 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:12,124 They begin undulating about, independent from one another. 47 00:02:12,125 --> 00:02:15,041 In the footage you can hear Josh's utter confusion 48 00:02:15,042 --> 00:02:16,417 and we understand why. 49 00:02:17,875 --> 00:02:20,582 What the are those? 50 00:02:20,583 --> 00:02:22,416 Field researcher Ken Gerhard says, 51 00:02:22,417 --> 00:02:24,999 "These airborne objects move more like something 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,666 you'd see deep in the ocean." 53 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:28,207 Whoa, that's crazy! 54 00:02:28,208 --> 00:02:29,874 Both of them look like they're alive. 55 00:02:29,875 --> 00:02:33,749 It's displaying some tentacles or limbs or something. 56 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:37,457 It actually looks like some type of octopus or squid. 57 00:02:37,458 --> 00:02:39,374 Tentacled creatures from outer space 58 00:02:39,375 --> 00:02:41,332 are a common theme in the horror fiction 59 00:02:41,333 --> 00:02:43,624 of writers like H.P. Lovecraft. 60 00:02:43,625 --> 00:02:45,416 Could it be possible that we are looking 61 00:02:45,417 --> 00:02:48,874 at real evidence of interstellar visitors from beyond? 62 00:02:48,875 --> 00:02:50,832 There are actually many reports 63 00:02:50,833 --> 00:02:55,707 of what researchers view to be UFOs that are alive. 64 00:02:55,708 --> 00:02:59,457 Unidentified flying objects that either look like 65 00:02:59,458 --> 00:03:02,749 giant disc-shaped objects made out of flesh 66 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:07,916 or in some cases octopus, squid or jellyfish type of animals 67 00:03:07,917 --> 00:03:10,207 that are floating through the air. 68 00:03:10,208 --> 00:03:12,207 Celebrated US astronaut Leland Melvin, 69 00:03:12,208 --> 00:03:15,124 who has clocked over 560 hours in space, 70 00:03:15,125 --> 00:03:19,207 believes he saw a translucent, curved, organic-looking thing 71 00:03:19,208 --> 00:03:21,666 hovering around the payload bay doors 72 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:25,583 during his time on the space shuttle Atlantis in 2009. 73 00:03:26,375 --> 00:03:27,957 It's a fascinating theory, 74 00:03:27,958 --> 00:03:32,207 but we'd be remiss not to point out the unique area below, 75 00:03:32,208 --> 00:03:34,332 which is dotted with military installations 76 00:03:34,333 --> 00:03:36,207 and air force bases. 77 00:03:36,208 --> 00:03:37,541 Could these sites be related 78 00:03:37,542 --> 00:03:40,082 to the strange events in the clouds above? 79 00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:43,499 In 2019, the military demonstrated 80 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:46,082 a new type of drone technology. 81 00:03:46,083 --> 00:03:47,874 Consisting of micro drones, 82 00:03:47,875 --> 00:03:51,707 the drones are a collective organism utilizing one brain 83 00:03:51,708 --> 00:03:54,666 for decision making and these micro drones 84 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:58,249 actually adapt to each other and interact like a swarm 85 00:03:58,250 --> 00:04:00,250 or a hive of individual units. 86 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:03,624 It was recently reported that the US 87 00:04:03,625 --> 00:04:06,374 is developing swarm technology that could be used 88 00:04:06,375 --> 00:04:09,874 to thwart a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan. 89 00:04:09,875 --> 00:04:13,166 If the objective behind this micro drone technology 90 00:04:13,167 --> 00:04:15,207 is to confuse the enemy, 91 00:04:15,208 --> 00:04:17,916 then what a better alignment than the shape 92 00:04:17,917 --> 00:04:20,874 of a giant octopus or squid flying through the air 93 00:04:20,875 --> 00:04:22,333 with flowing tentacles. 94 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:27,541 Scarily enough, it's not just the military 95 00:04:27,542 --> 00:04:29,541 that's using advanced drone technology. 96 00:04:29,542 --> 00:04:31,999 Several years ago a drone carrying 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,166 six pounds of methamphetamines 98 00:04:34,167 --> 00:04:36,416 crashed on the US Mexican border. 99 00:04:36,417 --> 00:04:38,166 Local authorities said this was hardly 100 00:04:38,167 --> 00:04:40,332 the first time this had happened. 101 00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:42,874 To find out more about what's in the skies overhead, 102 00:04:42,875 --> 00:04:44,374 we turned to our experts. 103 00:04:47,792 --> 00:04:49,082 First things first, 104 00:04:49,083 --> 00:04:51,666 we checked in with video authenticator Michael Primeau, 105 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,041 to test the legitimacy of this video. 106 00:04:54,042 --> 00:04:55,707 Using some scientific methodology, 107 00:04:55,708 --> 00:04:59,041 we can confirm that these objects are in the air 108 00:04:59,042 --> 00:05:00,374 and are traveling throughout the air 109 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:02,374 and were being photographed that way 110 00:05:02,375 --> 00:05:03,582 based on the natural movements 111 00:05:03,583 --> 00:05:05,499 of the camera at that distance. 112 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:08,707 So it's real, but what is it? 113 00:05:08,708 --> 00:05:11,374 Astronomer and video analyst, Marc D'Antonio 114 00:05:11,375 --> 00:05:14,541 is doubtful that this is some living UFO. 115 00:05:14,542 --> 00:05:17,832 The problem that I have with that theory 116 00:05:17,833 --> 00:05:20,707 is that you can see that in some cases 117 00:05:20,708 --> 00:05:24,374 those tentacles separate from the object and come back. 118 00:05:24,375 --> 00:05:25,624 If we zoom into the video, 119 00:05:25,625 --> 00:05:27,457 we can see that this may not actually 120 00:05:27,458 --> 00:05:29,832 be a solid singular, structure. 121 00:05:29,833 --> 00:05:31,999 You would expect the alien entity to be cohesive 122 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,916 and that tells me that these are separate objects 123 00:05:34,917 --> 00:05:38,124 all working in unison with each other. 124 00:05:38,125 --> 00:05:41,249 So are they tiny drones in a drone swarm? 125 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:43,124 D'Antonio says, "Not so fast." 126 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:44,624 So with a military drone technology, 127 00:05:44,625 --> 00:05:46,916 one of the things you would probably expect 128 00:05:46,917 --> 00:05:49,416 is that you'll have one leader and the others will follow. 129 00:05:49,417 --> 00:05:51,124 But in this particular case, 130 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:54,207 we're watching the leader change every split second. 131 00:05:54,208 --> 00:05:56,624 It's changing all the time. 132 00:05:56,625 --> 00:06:00,874 You would expect that there would be one cohesive leader 133 00:06:00,875 --> 00:06:02,999 with the rest following in a formation. 134 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,916 This is too random. 135 00:06:04,917 --> 00:06:07,582 But, before we admit that we're stumped, 136 00:06:07,583 --> 00:06:10,957 D'Antonio thinks he knows exactly what this is. 137 00:06:10,958 --> 00:06:12,791 We know, in nature, 138 00:06:12,792 --> 00:06:15,374 that this is something we've seen before. 139 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,124 A starling is a small bird. 140 00:06:17,125 --> 00:06:18,499 In this particular case 141 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:21,332 we have hundreds and hundreds of them. 142 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:23,124 They're safe moving in a flock. 143 00:06:23,125 --> 00:06:24,541 One becomes a leader, one second, 144 00:06:24,542 --> 00:06:26,582 another becomes a leader, another second. 145 00:06:26,583 --> 00:06:28,832 While it still remains somewhat of a mystery, 146 00:06:28,833 --> 00:06:31,874 scientists theorize that starling's move like this 147 00:06:31,875 --> 00:06:34,374 in order to confuse airborne predators 148 00:06:34,375 --> 00:06:35,916 like the peregrine falcon. 149 00:06:35,917 --> 00:06:39,332 That is something that looks like this octopus in the sky 150 00:06:39,333 --> 00:06:42,041 to people who may not know what this is. 151 00:06:42,042 --> 00:06:44,207 And it does look very strange, 152 00:06:44,208 --> 00:06:45,541 but that's what we're seeing here, 153 00:06:45,542 --> 00:06:48,249 a murmuration of starlings. 154 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:53,249 Our verdict... 155 00:06:53,250 --> 00:06:55,332 A murmuration of starlings. 156 00:06:55,333 --> 00:06:57,041 This creature looks so otherworldly 157 00:06:57,042 --> 00:07:00,374 because it isn't just one creature, it's many. 158 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:02,374 It wasn't micro drones this time, 159 00:07:02,375 --> 00:07:04,999 but given the Space Force Installation 160 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,332 in Colorado Springs, 161 00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:08,416 we're going to keep our eyes on the skies. 162 00:07:10,167 --> 00:07:13,999 We're currently living in the Second Golden Age of UFOs, 163 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,166 which obviously means there was a First Golden Age. 164 00:07:17,167 --> 00:07:18,624 It happened in the 1940s and '50s 165 00:07:18,625 --> 00:07:21,416 and one of the most compelling pieces of evidence 166 00:07:21,417 --> 00:07:23,874 was a photo of a flying saucer 167 00:07:23,875 --> 00:07:27,624 that fascinated and perplexed researchers for decades. 168 00:07:27,625 --> 00:07:29,958 But was it a UFO or not? 169 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:34,416 It's around 7:30 PM on May 11th, 1950 170 00:07:34,417 --> 00:07:36,416 in McMinnville, Oregon. 171 00:07:36,417 --> 00:07:38,541 Evelyn Trent goes out to feed her animals 172 00:07:38,542 --> 00:07:42,082 behind the farmhouse she and her husband Paul live in. 173 00:07:42,083 --> 00:07:43,541 While attending to her chores, 174 00:07:43,542 --> 00:07:46,041 she is astonished by what she sees in the sky. 175 00:07:46,042 --> 00:07:48,457 She runs towards the house, yelling for Paul 176 00:07:48,458 --> 00:07:50,749 to grab their trusty folding camera. 177 00:07:50,750 --> 00:07:53,166 They manage to snap two photographs. 178 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:57,791 Both photos show a large metallic-looking 179 00:07:57,792 --> 00:08:00,374 disc-shaped object hovering in the sky. 180 00:08:00,375 --> 00:08:02,582 In one shot, power lines can clearly be seen 181 00:08:02,583 --> 00:08:04,624 above and below the object. 182 00:08:04,625 --> 00:08:08,374 In another shot, the UFO appears to be trapezoidal in shape 183 00:08:08,375 --> 00:08:11,249 with what looks like an antenna or beacon. 184 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:13,374 Journalist Erin McCarthy says, 185 00:08:13,375 --> 00:08:16,166 the Trent photos soon become iconic. 186 00:08:16,167 --> 00:08:19,416 The 1950s were considered the Golden Age of UFOs 187 00:08:19,417 --> 00:08:20,957 for a couple of reasons. 188 00:08:20,958 --> 00:08:24,624 In June, 1947, we have Kenneth Arnold, a pilot, 189 00:08:24,625 --> 00:08:27,791 seeing some really strange UFOs over Mount Rainier 190 00:08:27,792 --> 00:08:29,707 and the media coverage of that 191 00:08:29,708 --> 00:08:31,707 gave us the term 'flying saucer'. 192 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:35,541 In July of 1947, we have the crash at Roswell, 193 00:08:35,542 --> 00:08:39,541 which really kicked UFO mania into high gear 194 00:08:39,542 --> 00:08:40,916 in the United States. 195 00:08:40,917 --> 00:08:44,416 Then in 1948, a veteran combat pilot, 196 00:08:44,417 --> 00:08:46,582 George Gorman reports an altercation 197 00:08:46,583 --> 00:08:49,082 with a speeding, glowing orb from the cockpit 198 00:08:49,083 --> 00:08:52,416 of his P-51 Mustang over Fargo, North Dakota. 199 00:08:52,417 --> 00:08:54,999 By 1950, the floodgates were open. 200 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,416 So in the midst of all of these things, 201 00:08:57,417 --> 00:08:58,999 you have the Trent case. 202 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,874 The Trent photos were first published in 1950. 203 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:05,416 They went on to be circulated and scrutinized 204 00:09:05,417 --> 00:09:09,416 in newspapers across the country for more than two decades. 205 00:09:09,417 --> 00:09:11,582 But in 1976 they'd received 206 00:09:11,583 --> 00:09:13,791 their most exhaustive analysis yet 207 00:09:13,792 --> 00:09:16,957 when Bruce Maccabee, an optical physicist for the US Navy, 208 00:09:16,958 --> 00:09:19,791 conducted his own examination of the negatives. 209 00:09:19,792 --> 00:09:23,457 Bruce Maccabee determined that they were not tampered with 210 00:09:23,458 --> 00:09:26,541 in any way, and he also determined 211 00:09:26,542 --> 00:09:28,416 that the line of sight for the two photos 212 00:09:28,417 --> 00:09:30,207 converged behind the power lines, 213 00:09:30,208 --> 00:09:33,917 which in his opinion meant that the object was genuine. 214 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:37,624 The story of what happened to the original negatives 215 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:39,416 is its own controversy. 216 00:09:39,417 --> 00:09:44,374 For some reason, Bruce Maccabee held onto them for 25 years. 217 00:09:44,375 --> 00:09:46,457 The family thought they'd been lost. 218 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:48,291 A newspaper later claimed ownership, 219 00:09:48,292 --> 00:09:50,999 which prompted an ugly legal battle between the paper 220 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,749 and the family over this incredible piece of UFO history. 221 00:09:54,750 --> 00:09:57,457 You can only imagine what the UFO community 222 00:09:57,458 --> 00:09:58,916 makes of all of this. 223 00:09:58,917 --> 00:10:01,082 Let's see if our experts can shed any new light 224 00:10:01,083 --> 00:10:02,749 on this age old mystery. 225 00:10:06,042 --> 00:10:08,207 First off, we take the photographs 226 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:10,832 to astrophotography expert, Andrew McCarthy. 227 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:13,791 He has his doubts about the authenticity of the images. 228 00:10:13,792 --> 00:10:15,957 There's a few ways you can produce 229 00:10:15,958 --> 00:10:18,916 this type of effect in camera, 230 00:10:18,917 --> 00:10:21,207 throw a hubcap like a Frisbee. 231 00:10:21,208 --> 00:10:23,999 But I think that would produce motion blur 232 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,082 that would be very evident in the photos. 233 00:10:27,083 --> 00:10:29,207 There is another way it could be done, however. 234 00:10:29,208 --> 00:10:32,916 You could simply tie an object to the power lines 235 00:10:32,917 --> 00:10:34,207 and have it dangle there. 236 00:10:34,208 --> 00:10:37,707 Using nylon string, it might not be visible 237 00:10:37,708 --> 00:10:39,249 and it would look like the object 238 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:41,041 was floating some distance away. 239 00:10:41,042 --> 00:10:43,707 I think the most likely answer here 240 00:10:43,708 --> 00:10:46,791 is there was some small object that resembled a craft 241 00:10:46,792 --> 00:10:49,582 that was hung from the power lines in this photo. 242 00:10:49,583 --> 00:10:51,082 But what would the family have to gain 243 00:10:51,083 --> 00:10:53,832 by staging such an elaborate hoax? 244 00:10:53,833 --> 00:10:56,166 Rich Hoffman, the Head of the Scientific Coalition 245 00:10:56,167 --> 00:10:58,999 for UAP Studies, points out that the Trents 246 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,249 never seemed to exploit their photos for financial gain. 247 00:11:02,250 --> 00:11:04,666 There was no intent on trying to make money 248 00:11:04,667 --> 00:11:06,207 or selling a story. 249 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:09,457 In fact, their belief was that what they were seeing 250 00:11:09,458 --> 00:11:12,082 was something that might have been from the US government 251 00:11:12,083 --> 00:11:13,499 and they were questioning whether 252 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:15,249 they should even talk about it at all. 253 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:17,624 Hoffman acknowledges that our military, 254 00:11:17,625 --> 00:11:18,999 as well as others, 255 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,124 was experimenting with various exotic 256 00:11:21,125 --> 00:11:25,082 flight technologies at the time, including V-toll vehicles, 257 00:11:25,083 --> 00:11:28,416 which stands for Vertical Takeoff and Landing Aircraft. 258 00:11:28,417 --> 00:11:30,957 You have the Avro disc that was created 259 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:33,957 to build like a flying saucer, kind of, platform, 260 00:11:33,958 --> 00:11:36,582 which had a jet engine that was pointing down 261 00:11:36,583 --> 00:11:40,792 with a large blade and it helped to lift the object up. 262 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,541 Hoffman also points out 263 00:11:43,542 --> 00:11:47,416 that one examiner's careful scrutiny of the lines of sight 264 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:50,541 and the relative position of the power lines in each photo 265 00:11:50,542 --> 00:11:52,417 eliminates the wire dangling theory. 266 00:11:53,542 --> 00:11:55,166 Dr. Bruce Maccabee said, 267 00:11:55,167 --> 00:11:57,832 "If I stood in this spot and I took this photo..." 268 00:11:57,833 --> 00:12:00,707 and he drew a line to where that line of sight would be. 269 00:12:00,708 --> 00:12:02,582 And then he moves over to the next spot 270 00:12:02,583 --> 00:12:04,166 where the object is now seen 271 00:12:04,167 --> 00:12:06,666 in a different position when it's tilted up, 272 00:12:06,667 --> 00:12:08,624 where the lines would converge at 273 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:11,082 would be beyond the telephone wires, 274 00:12:11,083 --> 00:12:13,874 which then indicates that it was not connected 275 00:12:13,875 --> 00:12:15,582 to the telephone lines. 276 00:12:15,583 --> 00:12:18,082 Maccabee's analysis proves the two lines of sight 277 00:12:18,083 --> 00:12:20,874 don't converge directly under the wires, 278 00:12:20,875 --> 00:12:23,666 which is what we'd expect in the case of a hanging model. 279 00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:26,207 So I completely rule out that it's a hoax 280 00:12:26,208 --> 00:12:29,917 or anything contrived and I go with this being a UFO. 281 00:12:35,708 --> 00:12:37,207 Our verdict... 282 00:12:37,208 --> 00:12:40,832 We're calling this a genuine UFO, at least for now. 283 00:12:40,833 --> 00:12:42,832 The hard math in Hoffman and Maccabee's 284 00:12:42,833 --> 00:12:45,082 line of sight analysis seems to blow up 285 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:48,541 McCarthy's power line theory and a lack of motion blur 286 00:12:48,542 --> 00:12:51,374 contradicts any thrown disc theory. 287 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:53,041 The debate proves one thing, 288 00:12:53,042 --> 00:12:54,832 while the photos can't be confirmed, 289 00:12:54,833 --> 00:12:57,417 they are also quite hard to debunk. 290 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:03,416 We can sometimes be here late investigating stories, 291 00:13:03,417 --> 00:13:06,124 but once we're done, we lock up and the next day 292 00:13:06,125 --> 00:13:08,707 everything is right where we left it. 293 00:13:08,708 --> 00:13:10,791 But we can't say the same for the office 294 00:13:10,792 --> 00:13:12,125 we're about to show you. 295 00:13:13,083 --> 00:13:16,374 We're in Porto, Portugal around 2017. 296 00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:18,374 It's late at night in the basement office 297 00:13:18,375 --> 00:13:20,875 of a completely empty advertising agency. 298 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,666 But tonight someone or something is still here 299 00:13:25,667 --> 00:13:28,707 doing a different kind of business. 300 00:13:28,708 --> 00:13:32,707 Look, security camera footage shows a flickering desk lamp 301 00:13:32,708 --> 00:13:35,082 through the doorway of a dark room. 302 00:13:35,083 --> 00:13:37,749 Suddenly the room becomes illuminated. 303 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:39,875 Then out of nowhere, bam! 304 00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:44,917 Seconds later, a set of desk drawers goes crazy. 305 00:13:47,250 --> 00:13:50,208 Then the eerie flickering lamp resumes. 306 00:13:51,417 --> 00:13:53,874 Journalist Alexis Brooks says at first glance, 307 00:13:53,875 --> 00:13:57,124 this looks like the work of a poltergeist. 308 00:13:57,125 --> 00:13:58,874 Poltergeist is a German word 309 00:13:58,875 --> 00:14:02,166 that means noisy ghost or noisy spirit. 310 00:14:02,167 --> 00:14:03,707 Most people became familiar 311 00:14:03,708 --> 00:14:05,041 with this supernatural being 312 00:14:05,042 --> 00:14:08,249 from the 1982 horror film of the same name. 313 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:10,332 A classic poltergeist situation, 314 00:14:10,333 --> 00:14:14,083 you will see doors slamming open and close, 315 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:16,874 lights going on and off, 316 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:18,917 all of which we saw in this footage. 317 00:14:19,875 --> 00:14:20,999 According to legend, 318 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,791 poltergeists can be powerful enough 319 00:14:22,792 --> 00:14:26,499 to throw people across rooms and leave visible bite marks. 320 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,874 Brooks says the energy of the environment 321 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:30,207 might bring them about. 322 00:14:30,208 --> 00:14:32,207 It's been said that poltergeist activity 323 00:14:32,208 --> 00:14:35,874 can actually be produced by extreme emotional effects 324 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:37,791 from a living human being. 325 00:14:37,792 --> 00:14:41,166 Could there have been some bad juju going on? 326 00:14:41,167 --> 00:14:43,041 Local legend offers a theory 327 00:14:43,042 --> 00:14:45,416 that could be the key to this mystery. 328 00:14:45,417 --> 00:14:47,707 Not far from the office was a convent 329 00:14:47,708 --> 00:14:50,291 that was home to the last surviving nun 330 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:54,041 from the disbanded order of the Sao Bento de Ave Maria. 331 00:14:54,042 --> 00:14:56,166 It was destroyed to build a train station 332 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:58,207 after her death in the late 1800s 333 00:14:58,208 --> 00:15:01,041 and it said the nun still seeks revenge 334 00:15:01,042 --> 00:15:03,875 against those who brought about her order's extinction. 335 00:15:05,042 --> 00:15:07,957 The question is, is this nun angry 336 00:15:07,958 --> 00:15:10,957 about the demolition of the convent? 337 00:15:10,958 --> 00:15:12,832 In certain cultures, 338 00:15:12,833 --> 00:15:15,374 the vengeful ghosts are said to be female. 339 00:15:15,375 --> 00:15:18,957 So wouldn't it be any surprise that this nun 340 00:15:18,958 --> 00:15:21,541 roams these halls to this day. 341 00:15:24,042 --> 00:15:26,624 The convent of Sao Bento de Ave Maria 342 00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:29,666 was struggling long before the final nun died 343 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:31,416 and the order was forced to sell 344 00:15:31,417 --> 00:15:34,207 its prized silver in the public square. 345 00:15:34,208 --> 00:15:37,124 So could the ghost of that angry last nun 346 00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:39,874 actually be creating all of this chaos? 347 00:15:39,875 --> 00:15:41,666 Let's see if our experts can find 348 00:15:41,667 --> 00:15:43,582 the cause of this creepiness. 349 00:15:48,042 --> 00:15:50,541 First, physicist Matthew Szydagis analyzes 350 00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:53,291 if this could have been seismic activity. 351 00:15:53,292 --> 00:15:56,207 Porto was a few hundred miles north of the Gloria Fault, 352 00:15:56,208 --> 00:15:58,124 which has triggered several large quakes 353 00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:00,458 along the Eurasia Africa plate boundary. 354 00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:07,583 In the year that this video was allegedly taken, 2017, 355 00:16:08,042 --> 00:16:11,249 we don't really have records of any major earthquakes, 356 00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:13,166 at least in Portugal. 357 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,499 Moreover, some of the effects we're seeing 358 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:18,999 such as the drawers popping out of the desk right here, 359 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,457 seem a bit too localized 360 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,457 in order to explain this as a tremor. 361 00:16:24,458 --> 00:16:27,374 Another theory is Porto's coastal tides. 362 00:16:27,375 --> 00:16:30,874 In this area there are underground springs 363 00:16:30,875 --> 00:16:33,832 which could explain not only 364 00:16:33,833 --> 00:16:35,499 what we're seeing in this video, 365 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:39,582 but poltergeist activity claims in general. 366 00:16:39,583 --> 00:16:40,707 In other words, 367 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:42,457 the fast moving underground water 368 00:16:42,458 --> 00:16:45,041 could cause a building's foundation walls 369 00:16:45,042 --> 00:16:48,041 and furnishings to shake and shift. 370 00:16:48,042 --> 00:16:50,207 But after reviewing the video a few times, 371 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:53,791 Szydagis concludes another explanation is more likely. 372 00:16:53,792 --> 00:16:57,166 He notices that the video is telling too perfect a story. 373 00:16:57,167 --> 00:17:00,457 In this video we have a beginning 374 00:17:00,458 --> 00:17:03,041 and an end that refer to each other. 375 00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:04,957 We've got the flashing lights 376 00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:07,832 and then at the end we have that in reverse. 377 00:17:07,833 --> 00:17:10,582 That makes for a beautiful visual story 378 00:17:10,583 --> 00:17:12,374 and that's a hint to me 379 00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:15,332 that this is a well choreographed fake video. 380 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:17,374 What's more science writer Mick West 381 00:17:17,375 --> 00:17:20,707 can demonstrate how this supernatural activity 382 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:24,416 would be easy to reproduce manually with everyday tools. 383 00:17:24,417 --> 00:17:26,874 What I would use for that is just simple fishing line. 384 00:17:26,875 --> 00:17:29,124 If you're in just regular office lighting 385 00:17:29,125 --> 00:17:31,374 and you're in a relatively low resolution video 386 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:33,957 like you have here, you wouldn't be able to see it. 387 00:17:33,958 --> 00:17:35,707 And this can pull quite a lot. 388 00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:39,124 I could quite easily pull this drawer open 389 00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:42,041 just using some, kind of, fishing line like I have here. 390 00:17:45,875 --> 00:17:47,832 Another curious detail. 391 00:17:47,833 --> 00:17:49,291 The person who gave us this video 392 00:17:49,292 --> 00:17:51,957 declined our request for an on-camera interview. 393 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:59,041 So since we couldn't get the person who filmed this clip 394 00:17:59,042 --> 00:18:00,832 to admit to staging the action, 395 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:02,666 we may never know the full story, 396 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:05,541 but our verdict is it's likely a hoax. 397 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:09,332 Our experts say it looks almost too perfect not to be. 398 00:18:09,333 --> 00:18:12,374 That said, if you ever find yourself in Porto, 399 00:18:12,375 --> 00:18:15,541 head to the Sao Bento Station and you may just 400 00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:18,708 catch a glimpse of the ghost of the last nun. 401 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:24,207 We've brought you a number of stories over the years 402 00:18:24,208 --> 00:18:25,707 about strange things that have washed up on shore. 403 00:18:25,708 --> 00:18:28,249 they often turn out to be sea creatures. 404 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:31,374 But this latest beached object is something else entirely 405 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:34,041 and it may have a more nefarious purpose. 406 00:18:35,708 --> 00:18:38,624 It's February, 2023 in the coastal city 407 00:18:38,625 --> 00:18:39,957 of Hamamatsu, Japan. 408 00:18:39,958 --> 00:18:43,999 Local resident Eihan Katsura has made his way to Enshu Beach 409 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,832 to document an unusual object that's washed up on the shore. 410 00:18:47,833 --> 00:18:49,624 Eihan's photos and videos reveal 411 00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:53,208 a large, spherical object embedded in the sand. 412 00:19:01,542 --> 00:19:04,041 It's almost five feet in diameter, 413 00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:06,082 made of metal with a light orange hue 414 00:19:06,083 --> 00:19:08,416 and darker patches of rust. 415 00:19:08,417 --> 00:19:12,457 On the upper right side is a small, protruding eyelet hook. 416 00:19:12,458 --> 00:19:14,124 Officials surround the sphere 417 00:19:14,125 --> 00:19:16,791 wearing protective helmets and masks. 418 00:19:16,792 --> 00:19:20,125 Eihan says he just can't fathom how it ended up there. 419 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:29,249 Journalist MJ Banias explains 420 00:19:29,250 --> 00:19:31,041 that given the location, 421 00:19:31,042 --> 00:19:33,041 some wonder if it's an explosive device 422 00:19:33,042 --> 00:19:35,541 sent by a nearby geopolitical foe. 423 00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:39,541 A month after this orb washed up on the beach 424 00:19:39,542 --> 00:19:42,166 in Hamamatsu City, the North Koreans publicly came out 425 00:19:42,167 --> 00:19:44,124 and said that they were testing 426 00:19:44,125 --> 00:19:46,874 underwater nuclear armed drones. 427 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:48,874 And then we found this. 428 00:19:48,875 --> 00:19:52,832 In 2016, images were released showing North Korean leader, 429 00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:55,916 Kim Jong Un standing next to a purported 430 00:19:55,917 --> 00:19:59,041 miniaturized nuclear warhead that looks surprisingly 431 00:19:59,042 --> 00:20:02,791 like this washed up object, if just a little bit smaller. 432 00:20:02,792 --> 00:20:05,957 Yet, North Korea is not the only regional power 433 00:20:05,958 --> 00:20:07,416 Japan is at odds with. 434 00:20:07,417 --> 00:20:10,374 China has an interest in territorial expansion 435 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,332 and Japan is its closest neighbor. 436 00:20:12,333 --> 00:20:15,416 So this could be some sort of surveillance device 437 00:20:15,417 --> 00:20:19,332 used by the Chinese to monitor underwater traffic 438 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:21,124 or communications cables. 439 00:20:21,125 --> 00:20:23,707 So, maybe this is a giant spy tool. 440 00:20:23,708 --> 00:20:26,832 During the Cold War, the US Navy used vehicles, 441 00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:28,082 similar in shape to this one, 442 00:20:28,083 --> 00:20:30,499 to help eavesdrop on the Soviets. 443 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:33,416 In what was known as Operation Ivy Bells, 444 00:20:33,417 --> 00:20:37,374 they wrapped a recording device around an undersea cable, 445 00:20:37,375 --> 00:20:40,707 but there's another possibility that's even more exotic. 446 00:20:40,708 --> 00:20:43,082 This could be what's called a USO 447 00:20:43,083 --> 00:20:45,791 or an unidentified submersible object. 448 00:20:45,792 --> 00:20:48,707 Some people believe that this resembles an object 449 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:51,916 that was recorded by the USS Omaha in the Pacific. 450 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:54,750 Basically a round object that had crashed into the ocean. 451 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,874 Sightings of USOs are less common than reports of UFOs, 452 00:21:01,875 --> 00:21:05,416 but US Navy experts say unidentified submerged objects 453 00:21:05,417 --> 00:21:07,874 pose a much greater threat to naval vessels 454 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:09,291 than flying ones. 455 00:21:09,292 --> 00:21:11,624 Maybe that's why those Japanese investigators 456 00:21:11,625 --> 00:21:14,957 first approached this washed up orb in protective gear. 457 00:21:14,958 --> 00:21:17,832 Their initial examination yielded few answers. 458 00:21:17,833 --> 00:21:19,999 Let's see what our experts can find out. 459 00:21:23,625 --> 00:21:26,666 Military analyst Tim McMillan considers whether this object 460 00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:28,541 could be an advanced piece of equipment 461 00:21:28,542 --> 00:21:32,207 used for deep sea espionage or surveillance. 462 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:34,499 Based on the degree of rust on it, 463 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:38,041 this object is most likely iron, possibly steel. 464 00:21:38,042 --> 00:21:42,416 That's not really a material that you would see used 465 00:21:42,417 --> 00:21:45,041 in any type of underwater espionage. 466 00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:46,457 Because it would be something 467 00:21:46,458 --> 00:21:50,041 that would be highly susceptible to oxidation. 468 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:53,166 And obviously if you're sneaking in a listening device, 469 00:21:53,167 --> 00:21:54,666 this is not something you're going to 470 00:21:54,667 --> 00:21:59,541 want to keep going back and forth to repair and fix. 471 00:21:59,542 --> 00:22:02,457 So if this isn't a surveillance device, 472 00:22:02,458 --> 00:22:03,999 then could it be a weapon of war 473 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,957 from somewhere like North Korea? 474 00:22:05,958 --> 00:22:10,499 North Korea is often involved in all sorts of claims 475 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:14,707 of having weapons capable of delivering nuclear explosions. 476 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,249 One of which, at least is claimed, 477 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:19,541 to be possibly shaped similar to the object 478 00:22:19,542 --> 00:22:21,624 we're seeing here in in this image. 479 00:22:21,625 --> 00:22:24,749 If that was the case, this would just be 480 00:22:24,750 --> 00:22:27,541 the warhead component of whatever that is. 481 00:22:27,542 --> 00:22:30,707 And I would hardly call it a successful nuclear device, 482 00:22:30,708 --> 00:22:33,999 if the the warhead has separated from the delivery system, 483 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,541 we don't have a boom. 484 00:22:35,542 --> 00:22:37,707 Just to be sure, officials eventually x-rayed 485 00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:40,499 this mysterious object and discovered that it's hollow, 486 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:43,207 without any explosives inside. 487 00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:45,999 So could this actually be a USO created 488 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,624 using a sophisticated alien cloaking technology? 489 00:22:49,625 --> 00:22:51,499 Again, McMillan says it's iron 490 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:55,082 or steel composition suggests otherwise. 491 00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:56,916 It's a very durable material, 492 00:22:56,917 --> 00:23:00,541 but it's a very heavy material and it corrodes 493 00:23:00,542 --> 00:23:03,957 rather quickly in underwater, salt water environments. 494 00:23:03,958 --> 00:23:06,582 And so it's not going to be a material 495 00:23:06,583 --> 00:23:07,916 that's conducive, really, 496 00:23:07,917 --> 00:23:11,416 for any type of exotic extraterrestrial craft. 497 00:23:11,417 --> 00:23:13,416 Archeologist Ed Barnhart believes 498 00:23:13,417 --> 00:23:15,332 this object's exterior design 499 00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:17,832 provides the clue to its prosaic purpose. 500 00:23:17,833 --> 00:23:20,457 There's really no distinguishing features 501 00:23:20,458 --> 00:23:25,749 on its surface, except for two little eyelets. 502 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:29,332 Things that look like they could attach a rope or a chain. 503 00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:32,666 It now takes a shape that's very well known 504 00:23:32,667 --> 00:23:35,416 and that is mooring buoy. 505 00:23:35,417 --> 00:23:38,541 They're these big metal balls that have chains 506 00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:42,041 that link them to anchors at the bottom 507 00:23:42,042 --> 00:23:44,332 of a deep spot of the ocean. 508 00:23:48,542 --> 00:23:49,749 Our verdict... 509 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:52,124 This is a mooring buoy that was likely 510 00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:53,707 floating out far at sea 511 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:55,124 when it got loose from the chain, 512 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:58,666 attaching it to a heavy anchor at the ocean floor. 513 00:23:58,667 --> 00:24:01,167 That freed the buoy to drift to the shores of Japan. 514 00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:07,499 Some biologists believe the reason Australia is home 515 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:10,082 to so many deadly creatures is due to the fact 516 00:24:10,083 --> 00:24:11,916 that it's an isolated continent. 517 00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:13,791 One that's been drifting through the ocean 518 00:24:13,792 --> 00:24:17,249 since breaking off from Antarctica 30 million years ago. 519 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:20,582 It's become a magnet for all forms of resilient species, 520 00:24:20,583 --> 00:24:23,416 creating a pretty monstrous ecosystem 521 00:24:23,417 --> 00:24:25,625 as two fishermen found out the hard way. 522 00:24:27,125 --> 00:24:31,874 February, 2019, Kakadu National Park in Australia, 523 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:35,666 Andrew Rose and Tee Hokin are fishing in the Mary River, 524 00:24:35,667 --> 00:24:39,124 when all of a sudden Andrew's line begins acting strangely. 525 00:24:39,125 --> 00:24:42,374 He pulls it from the water and the friends discover this. 526 00:24:44,583 --> 00:24:46,792 It was certainly a shock. 527 00:24:48,125 --> 00:24:50,082 The creature itself, I'd never seen anything like it. 528 00:24:50,083 --> 00:24:52,207 No eyes, sharp teeth. 529 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:53,624 Yeah, it was about six inches long. 530 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:55,541 The creature was not hooked in the lure, 531 00:24:55,542 --> 00:24:57,666 but rather wrapped itself around it. 532 00:24:57,667 --> 00:24:59,707 Andrew made sure to keep his distance 533 00:24:59,708 --> 00:25:02,041 as the pair snapped pictures of the strange creature 534 00:25:02,042 --> 00:25:04,916 before releasing it back into the Mary River. 535 00:25:04,917 --> 00:25:07,874 We didn't know whether it was going to be toxic or what. 536 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:09,249 I didn't know if it was going to bite me, 537 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:10,833 poison me, kill me. 538 00:25:12,167 --> 00:25:14,124 Considering the variety of deadly animals 539 00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:15,874 that populate Australia, 540 00:25:15,875 --> 00:25:18,041 Andrew was wise not to get too friendly 541 00:25:18,042 --> 00:25:21,999 with the unknown creature, despite its diminutive stature. 542 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,582 I mean, this is the home of the Irukandji jellyfish, 543 00:25:25,583 --> 00:25:27,124 who at only two centimeters long, 544 00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:31,707 still has a venom 100 times more powerful than a cobra. 545 00:25:31,708 --> 00:25:32,999 As for this thing, 546 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,749 we had to ask field researcher Ken Gerhard. 547 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:39,666 He says the key to what it is might be where it is. 548 00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:41,582 Where this weird creature was captured 549 00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:44,541 is actually in the Mary River in Northern Australia, 550 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:47,624 and this is the home to a legendary creature 551 00:25:47,625 --> 00:25:49,874 known as the Mary River gharial. 552 00:25:49,875 --> 00:25:54,832 A serpentine animal with a very long, skinny head 553 00:25:54,833 --> 00:25:57,041 that's shaped like a crocodilian, 554 00:25:57,042 --> 00:26:00,249 a long body with four paddles and a long tail. 555 00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:03,082 Could this be a juvenile version 556 00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:04,874 of the Mary River gharial? 557 00:26:04,875 --> 00:26:07,374 Perhaps in its larval stage. 558 00:26:07,375 --> 00:26:10,874 In the late 1800s, new settlers to this area 559 00:26:10,875 --> 00:26:13,707 were told stories by the local Aboriginals 560 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:15,957 about the monstrous gharial that frequently 561 00:26:15,958 --> 00:26:18,374 attacked their women and children. 562 00:26:18,375 --> 00:26:19,707 And over the next century, 563 00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:21,791 the giant gharial would be reported 564 00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:24,124 for overturning boats in the water. 565 00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:28,332 In the 1980s, a local fisherman actually claimed 566 00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:31,749 that his boat was rammed by the Mary River gharial. 567 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,707 Gerhard also explores a more practical theory. 568 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,041 There's also a possibility 569 00:26:36,042 --> 00:26:37,541 that what we could be dealing with here, 570 00:26:37,542 --> 00:26:39,749 is some type of mutated animal. 571 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:42,124 A 2014 expose revealed 572 00:26:42,125 --> 00:26:46,124 that rapid industrialization in neighboring Indonesia 573 00:26:46,125 --> 00:26:49,124 has led to massive amounts of toxins and pollution 574 00:26:49,125 --> 00:26:50,874 being dumped into the river systems. 575 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:52,374 The appearance of strange 576 00:26:52,375 --> 00:26:54,874 and grotesque creatures like this one, 577 00:26:54,875 --> 00:26:58,125 could be an indicator of how bad the situation is getting. 578 00:27:00,542 --> 00:27:02,707 Genetic mutations from toxic environments 579 00:27:02,708 --> 00:27:04,207 are nothing new on this show. 580 00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:07,249 In the past we showed you a mutant two-headed snake 581 00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:09,749 that our experts said could very well have been caused 582 00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:11,957 by industrial pollution. 583 00:27:11,958 --> 00:27:14,832 Is that what spawned this alien-like creature? 584 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:16,791 To find out, we turn to our experts. 585 00:27:20,167 --> 00:27:24,541 We first sit down with marine biologist Dr. Shea Steingass 586 00:27:24,542 --> 00:27:27,207 to discuss the idea that this mysterious creature 587 00:27:27,208 --> 00:27:29,874 is the product of pollution from Indonesia. 588 00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,041 A theory she finds flawed. 589 00:27:32,042 --> 00:27:34,374 The Mary River flows to the sea, 590 00:27:34,375 --> 00:27:39,166 and while we may see off-flow of pollutants like fertilizers 591 00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:42,541 or chemicals that make their way through this system, 592 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:45,541 oftentimes the impacts of these chemicals 593 00:27:45,542 --> 00:27:47,207 end up in the ocean itself 594 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:49,374 because that's where the rivers drain to. 595 00:27:49,375 --> 00:27:52,416 So the effects that we would see from those pollutants 596 00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:54,416 would probably be offshore 597 00:27:54,417 --> 00:27:56,707 and not so much in the animals here. 598 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:58,582 So then what about the earlier theory 599 00:27:58,583 --> 00:28:00,957 that this tiny terror could somehow be related 600 00:28:00,958 --> 00:28:03,957 to the legendary Mary River gharial? 601 00:28:03,958 --> 00:28:06,791 Those were prehistoric crocodiles 602 00:28:06,792 --> 00:28:09,499 that had paddle-like limbs, 603 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:13,249 but we don't see any kind of limbs on this animal. 604 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:15,374 So this is not a gharial, 605 00:28:15,375 --> 00:28:19,166 rather this is very clearly a mud-dwelling fish. 606 00:28:19,167 --> 00:28:21,832 The fact that it can't see means that it lives 607 00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:24,541 in the sediment or under the mud, 608 00:28:24,542 --> 00:28:29,374 where eyesight really isn't even an asset, it's a liability. 609 00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:32,249 We followed up with biologist Floyd Hayes, 610 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,499 who said he can identify not only the type of fish, 611 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:37,041 but the exact species. 612 00:28:37,042 --> 00:28:41,082 You could identify it by the odd-shaped head, 613 00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:43,499 and the eyes are covered with skin, 614 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,999 and it has a lot of weird bumps and skin folds on the head, 615 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,207 and also has a elongated body. 616 00:28:51,208 --> 00:28:53,999 So this appears to be a species of worm goby 617 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,041 of the genus Taenioides. 618 00:28:56,042 --> 00:28:58,166 They're about 13 or 14 species 619 00:28:58,167 --> 00:29:00,624 that live in the Indo-Pacific area. 620 00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:06,291 Our experts concur... 621 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:09,457 What we are looking at here is a mud-dwelling fish 622 00:29:09,458 --> 00:29:11,541 known as the worm goby. 623 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,541 And while it might not be as dangerous as we first thought, 624 00:29:14,542 --> 00:29:17,707 I'd still suggest keeping your hands inside the boat 625 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:19,708 while traveling down an Australian river. 626 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:24,666 Elephants might never forget, 627 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:26,499 but they also never talk, right? 628 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,124 I mean, we all remember Dumbo. 629 00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:32,332 But hang on, over In Asia, there is a loquacious pachyderm 630 00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:36,041 who's got something to say, so listen up. 631 00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:39,707 2012, just outside Seoul, South Korea sits Everland, 632 00:29:39,708 --> 00:29:41,416 the country's largest theme park. 633 00:29:41,417 --> 00:29:44,791 Large enough in fact that it houses a whole zoo. 634 00:29:44,792 --> 00:29:47,041 Within that zoo, 22-year-old Koshik, 635 00:29:47,042 --> 00:29:48,707 a young male Asian elephant 636 00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:50,582 is being recorded in a large room. 637 00:29:50,583 --> 00:29:52,624 He is a marvel to look at, 638 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:55,499 towering over his handler by several feet, 639 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,082 but if we listen closely, 640 00:29:57,083 --> 00:30:00,041 it's clear he's even more amazing to hear. 641 00:30:00,042 --> 00:30:03,207 Offscreen his handler tells Koshik, 'jo-ah', 642 00:30:03,208 --> 00:30:03,874 'good' in Korean. 643 00:30:03,875 --> 00:30:05,041 Jo-ah. 644 00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:06,332 Koshik paces a bit 645 00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:08,707 and then raises his trunk to his mouth. 646 00:30:08,708 --> 00:30:11,624 And according to some, repeats the phrase back. 647 00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:12,749 Jo-ah. 648 00:30:12,750 --> 00:30:13,749 Let's hear that again. 649 00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:14,875 Jo-ah. 650 00:30:15,625 --> 00:30:17,416 Jo-ah. 651 00:30:17,417 --> 00:30:20,707 Koshik allegedly knows six words, all in Korean 652 00:30:20,708 --> 00:30:22,916 and uses them with regularity. 653 00:30:22,917 --> 00:30:24,957 This clip of Koshik, the elephant, 654 00:30:24,958 --> 00:30:27,957 started circulating in 2006 and it, kind of, 655 00:30:27,958 --> 00:30:29,582 set the world on fire. 656 00:30:29,583 --> 00:30:31,707 Koshik was able to speak in Korean. 657 00:30:31,708 --> 00:30:35,874 'Hello', 'good', 'down', 'lie down' and 'no'. 658 00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:36,917 Jo-ah. 659 00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:39,374 Jo-ah. 660 00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:42,874 Scientists ran a study and Korean speakers 661 00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:45,541 could actually identify what Koshik was saying. 662 00:30:45,542 --> 00:30:46,999 Jo-ah. 663 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,332 A very smart elephant, but all elephants are smart. 664 00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:52,374 Elephants actually have the largest brain 665 00:30:52,375 --> 00:30:55,207 of any land animal and are thought to equal dolphins 666 00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:57,874 in terms of problem solving capability. 667 00:30:57,875 --> 00:31:00,291 Nature philosophers like Pliny the Elder 668 00:31:00,292 --> 00:31:01,874 believed they were even smart enough 669 00:31:01,875 --> 00:31:03,916 to create their own religion. 670 00:31:03,917 --> 00:31:07,207 Pliny thought that elephants actually participated 671 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:11,416 in religious activities because they would wave sticks at 672 00:31:11,417 --> 00:31:14,916 and bathe during certain phases of the moon. 673 00:31:14,917 --> 00:31:16,999 They exhibit ritual behavior. 674 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,291 Elephants will actually stroke the bodies 675 00:31:19,292 --> 00:31:22,082 of the dead members of their herd 676 00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:25,082 and they will sit with the bodies for quite some time. 677 00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:26,832 According to journalist Erin McCarthy, 678 00:31:26,833 --> 00:31:28,874 the old expression, "An elephant never forgets", 679 00:31:28,875 --> 00:31:30,416 is actually quite accurate. 680 00:31:30,417 --> 00:31:32,874 Some say these thought-provoking pachyderms 681 00:31:32,875 --> 00:31:34,707 are even known to hold a grudge. 682 00:31:34,708 --> 00:31:37,249 One instance involves an Indian woman who was rumored 683 00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:39,291 to have assisted elephant poachers. 684 00:31:39,292 --> 00:31:43,041 In 2022, a 70-year-old woman in India 685 00:31:43,042 --> 00:31:45,832 was trampled by an elephant. 686 00:31:45,833 --> 00:31:47,374 According to some reports, 687 00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:49,916 the woman had actually been part of a group 688 00:31:49,917 --> 00:31:52,082 that had thrown rocks at the elephant 689 00:31:52,083 --> 00:31:54,541 in order to take her baby away. 690 00:31:54,542 --> 00:31:56,749 She later died of her injuries. 691 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:59,041 At her funeral, it was reported that 692 00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:00,832 that same elephant came back 693 00:32:00,833 --> 00:32:03,541 and actually trampled her body again. 694 00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:06,124 Which some have suggested means the elephant 695 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,874 was holding a grudge and even seeking revenge. 696 00:32:08,875 --> 00:32:09,667 Jo-ah. 697 00:32:11,083 --> 00:32:12,374 Jo-ah. 698 00:32:12,375 --> 00:32:13,666 So does this sophisticated behavior 699 00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:15,166 mean elephants can learn to talk? 700 00:32:15,167 --> 00:32:19,124 Or are these sounds possibly some strange coincidence? 701 00:32:19,125 --> 00:32:21,041 Elephants communicate with each other 702 00:32:21,042 --> 00:32:24,041 with a number of sounds and vocalizations. 703 00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:25,457 Some have actually wondered, 704 00:32:25,458 --> 00:32:27,957 have they evolved to develop a language 705 00:32:27,958 --> 00:32:29,292 to communicate with us? 706 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:34,207 According to ancient Indonesian legend, 707 00:32:34,208 --> 00:32:37,499 the orangutan actually can speak, but chooses not to 708 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,457 out of fear that humans would enslave him. 709 00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:42,916 Could the same be true of the elephant? 710 00:32:42,917 --> 00:32:45,166 Our experts aren't working for peanuts, 711 00:32:45,167 --> 00:32:47,207 so let's see what they have to say. 712 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:54,624 Forensic sound analyst Rob Maher says first things first. 713 00:32:54,625 --> 00:32:58,124 What we are hearing is not actual talking, but whistling. 714 00:32:58,125 --> 00:33:01,332 When we speak normally, we have air pressure 715 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:03,749 from our diaphragm in our lungs 716 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:08,207 and in our glottis we have vocal folds or vocal cords, 717 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:11,916 and the air that's being forced between them, vibrates. 718 00:33:11,917 --> 00:33:15,291 Now, a whistle is not involving the glottis, 719 00:33:15,292 --> 00:33:18,082 it's in the upper part of our mouth. 720 00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:20,749 A person can either just use their lips and blow 721 00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:22,207 or use their fingers. 722 00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:24,749 But apparently this elephant is able to use 723 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:27,207 the shape of the trunk in such a way 724 00:33:27,208 --> 00:33:29,124 to create these whistling sounds. 725 00:33:29,125 --> 00:33:32,124 And so we are able to interpret 726 00:33:32,125 --> 00:33:35,416 this interesting whistly sound as if it's an actual word. 727 00:33:35,417 --> 00:33:37,124 Biologist Stephanie Manka 728 00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:39,707 doesn't question Koshik's advanced intelligence, 729 00:33:39,708 --> 00:33:42,374 but Manka is skeptical that what we are seeing here 730 00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:44,541 is a real, live talking elephant. 731 00:33:44,542 --> 00:33:47,041 Elephants vocalize a lot with each other. 732 00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,666 Typically their sounds are in infrasonic, 733 00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:53,207 which means that they are below the level of human hearing 734 00:33:53,208 --> 00:33:56,166 and this elephant created these sounds 735 00:33:56,167 --> 00:33:58,041 so that we could hear them 736 00:33:58,042 --> 00:34:01,207 and probably looked for the human reaction. 737 00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:04,249 Most likely it is mimicking words 738 00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:07,082 that have been said by the trainer. 739 00:34:07,083 --> 00:34:09,791 In fact, Asian and African elephants 740 00:34:09,792 --> 00:34:13,291 have both been documented, mimicking a variety of sounds, 741 00:34:13,292 --> 00:34:15,957 including crickets and truck engines. 742 00:34:15,958 --> 00:34:18,166 A peek into Koshik's past may reveal 743 00:34:18,167 --> 00:34:21,291 what motivated him to create these sounds. 744 00:34:21,292 --> 00:34:22,916 Koshik was separated from 745 00:34:22,917 --> 00:34:25,541 the rest of his herd at age five. 746 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:30,625 He was alone for a long part of his youth. 747 00:34:31,875 --> 00:34:33,457 Elephants are very social creatures. 748 00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:38,416 I do think that this elephant was trying to mimic sounds 749 00:34:38,417 --> 00:34:41,541 that it heard other humans saying to each other 750 00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:42,874 to get attention. 751 00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,666 Jo-ah. 752 00:34:48,042 --> 00:34:49,582 Our verdict... 753 00:34:49,583 --> 00:34:52,082 We're calling this a case of mimicry and bonding. 754 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:54,541 Koshik is one smart elephant, 755 00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:57,291 but he's not fluent in Korean-smart. 756 00:34:57,292 --> 00:34:59,541 He doesn't know the sound, 'jo-ah' means 'good', 757 00:34:59,542 --> 00:35:01,707 but he does know it creates a good connection 758 00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:03,291 with the humans around him. 759 00:35:03,292 --> 00:35:05,541 And hopefully he gets the love and attention 760 00:35:05,542 --> 00:35:07,583 an elephant of his intellect, deserves. 761 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:14,041 You've probably heard of earth's polar vortices. 762 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,291 They are large swaths of cold winds 763 00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:17,457 that circle around both of the poles. 764 00:35:17,458 --> 00:35:19,707 Here they're shaped pretty organically 765 00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:21,332 with a swirling motion, 766 00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:24,457 but look just a billion miles away, give or take, 767 00:35:24,458 --> 00:35:28,041 and you'll find that Saturn has its own polar vortex. 768 00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:30,207 And the one in the north sure looks like 769 00:35:30,208 --> 00:35:33,167 it was designed, purposely, by something intelligent. 770 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:38,541 It's 2007, above the northern hemisphere of Saturn, 771 00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:42,332 the Cassini spacecraft is beaming data back to earth, 772 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,083 showing a glimpse of Saturn's northern hemisphere. 773 00:35:46,375 --> 00:35:49,541 But what's that almost perfectly equilateral polygon, 774 00:35:49,542 --> 00:35:51,625 there, above the north pole? 775 00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:54,707 British planetary scientist Leigh Fletcher 776 00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:58,249 was amazed when he first observed this shape for himself. 777 00:35:58,250 --> 00:36:02,332 When the hexagon jumped out at me, I was gobsmacked. 778 00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:05,499 The question of what caused that 779 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,749 is one that still holds a lot of mystery. 780 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:09,541 Take another look. 781 00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:12,041 Saturn is known for its rings, 782 00:36:12,042 --> 00:36:14,374 but this hexagon is really bizarre, 783 00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:16,707 no other planet has anything like it. 784 00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:19,624 Science writer Amy Teitel says Leigh was the first 785 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:22,749 to see the hexagon during Saturn's long winter, 786 00:36:22,750 --> 00:36:25,582 but it's been mystifying scientists for years. 787 00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:28,749 This hexagon shape on Saturn's north pole 788 00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:32,499 was first discovered by the Voyager satellites in the 1980s, 789 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:36,082 so it's been present on Saturn for decades. 790 00:36:36,083 --> 00:36:37,541 What's strange is it seems 791 00:36:37,542 --> 00:36:39,916 to have changed color from blue to gold 792 00:36:39,917 --> 00:36:43,207 and it appears much larger than originally thought. 793 00:36:43,208 --> 00:36:44,791 So why is it here? 794 00:36:44,792 --> 00:36:48,041 To some, it's evidence of a spiritual belief 795 00:36:48,042 --> 00:36:50,541 known as sacred geometry. 796 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,541 Sacred geometry is the idea that certain shapes 797 00:36:53,542 --> 00:36:57,499 and patterns appear like that for a reason. 798 00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,707 According to sacred geometry, 799 00:36:59,708 --> 00:37:02,458 the hexagon represents a potential for life. 800 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:06,207 One of the most sacred shapes is the flower of life, 801 00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:07,541 which is a shape created 802 00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:11,207 of 19 identical overlapping circles. 803 00:37:11,208 --> 00:37:14,082 We see this going back as far as the ancient Hindu 804 00:37:14,083 --> 00:37:15,458 and Christian cultures. 805 00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:19,291 But what or who could have created 806 00:37:19,292 --> 00:37:22,207 this seemingly deliberate form above Saturn? 807 00:37:22,208 --> 00:37:24,749 Author Jason Martell has an idea. 808 00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,499 We know that humans are capable of weather manipulation 809 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,291 such as cloud seeding. 810 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:30,624 It's very possible that aliens 811 00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:32,541 would have similar technology. 812 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,832 This hexagonal vortex could be some type 813 00:37:34,833 --> 00:37:38,208 of delivery mechanism for the potential of life. 814 00:37:39,417 --> 00:37:41,207 Think about that perfect monolith 815 00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:43,582 from "2001: A Space Odyssey." 816 00:37:43,583 --> 00:37:46,749 It wasn't just a cool, geometric artifact, 817 00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:50,249 it was a mechanism for advancing intelligent life. 818 00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:52,750 Could this sacred hexagon be something similar? 819 00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:55,416 It sounds like a stretch, 820 00:37:55,417 --> 00:38:00,124 but some think life may already be advancing near Saturn. 821 00:38:00,125 --> 00:38:01,791 Saturn's Moon, Titan, is one 822 00:38:01,792 --> 00:38:03,874 of the most interesting places for a lot of people 823 00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:06,582 to look for life because it's chemically very similar 824 00:38:06,583 --> 00:38:09,041 to early earth and it's got a lot of the things 825 00:38:09,042 --> 00:38:11,374 that we think life needs to thrive. 826 00:38:11,375 --> 00:38:13,749 The hexagonal formation could actually 827 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:17,207 be a key to unlocking secrets of the universe. 828 00:38:19,542 --> 00:38:21,582 Mathematicians say the hexagon 829 00:38:21,583 --> 00:38:24,041 is nature's most efficient shape. 830 00:38:24,042 --> 00:38:28,291 With mechanically balanced angles at 120 degrees each, 831 00:38:28,292 --> 00:38:29,707 it can hold the most weight 832 00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:31,791 with the least amount of material. 833 00:38:31,792 --> 00:38:35,041 But is Saturn's hexagonal vortex proof 834 00:38:35,042 --> 00:38:37,207 that there is more to this shape? 835 00:38:37,208 --> 00:38:39,291 Our experts explore all the angles. 836 00:38:43,458 --> 00:38:45,832 This hexagonal shape isn't actually visible 837 00:38:45,833 --> 00:38:48,207 on any of the other planets in our solar system, 838 00:38:48,208 --> 00:38:50,291 it's truly unique to Saturn. 839 00:38:50,292 --> 00:38:52,207 It's almost like a snowflake 840 00:38:52,208 --> 00:38:54,791 in it's precision and its beauty. 841 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:57,707 So it is unique, but is that proof 842 00:38:57,708 --> 00:39:00,291 it's the result of intelligent design? 843 00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:02,207 That hexagon looks like it's something 844 00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:04,082 that might have been created artificially, 845 00:39:04,083 --> 00:39:06,666 but this is a natural resonance 846 00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:10,874 that's based on the way the bands on Saturn operate 847 00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:13,874 and the way the atmospheric currents flow. 848 00:39:13,875 --> 00:39:16,999 And NASA geologist Dr. Bob Anderson 849 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,749 thinks he can explain how and why it was created. 850 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:23,957 This atmosphere is a fluid of gas, 851 00:39:23,958 --> 00:39:25,874 and so as it's rotating, 852 00:39:25,875 --> 00:39:28,832 it has what's called surface tension between the particles. 853 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,166 When two particles rub against each other, 854 00:39:31,167 --> 00:39:32,666 they have like a tension to them. 855 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:34,541 The hexagon shape will fall out 856 00:39:34,542 --> 00:39:37,624 when fluids of different densities flow past each other 857 00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:40,207 and when they harden, they form a hexagon shape 858 00:39:40,208 --> 00:39:42,374 because it's the most efficient way 859 00:39:42,375 --> 00:39:44,082 to get into a stable configuration 860 00:39:44,083 --> 00:39:46,166 when you are using gas and liquids. 861 00:39:46,167 --> 00:39:48,374 In order to get this hexagon there, 862 00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:50,582 all the conditions have to be right. 863 00:39:50,583 --> 00:39:52,374 But how could the perfect conditions 864 00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:53,916 last for decades? 865 00:39:53,917 --> 00:39:57,166 These structures are so ingrained into the atmosphere 866 00:39:57,167 --> 00:39:59,374 that they remain very constant. 867 00:39:59,375 --> 00:40:00,957 A perfect example is Jupiter. 868 00:40:00,958 --> 00:40:03,374 The great red spot has been seen since 869 00:40:03,375 --> 00:40:05,167 around the time of Galileo. 870 00:40:05,917 --> 00:40:08,249 And why has the hexagon changed colors 871 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:09,957 since the end of 2012? 872 00:40:09,958 --> 00:40:12,374 Planetary scientist Leigh Fletcher says, 873 00:40:12,375 --> 00:40:14,749 "The key is understanding that it takes more 874 00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:17,874 than seven earth years for seasons to change on Saturn." 875 00:40:17,875 --> 00:40:20,874 As sunlight returns to those springtime, 876 00:40:20,875 --> 00:40:24,916 northern latitudes, you get these smoggy particles 877 00:40:24,917 --> 00:40:28,707 being created by chemistry high up within the atmosphere, 878 00:40:28,708 --> 00:40:32,332 that started to fill in the center of the hexagon 879 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:34,207 and making it appear gold. 880 00:40:38,333 --> 00:40:39,874 Our verdict... 881 00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:42,999 Surface tension is creating this natural phenomenon. 882 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,374 And if it is a sign from an alien or divine intelligence, 883 00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:49,582 we're not intelligent enough to figure out 884 00:40:49,583 --> 00:40:51,291 what it means just yet. 885 00:40:51,292 --> 00:40:52,707 And that's our show for tonight. 886 00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:56,041 Thank you so much for joining us, and as always, 887 00:40:56,042 --> 00:40:57,957 keep those cameras rolling. 70714

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