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Tonight on "The
Proof Is Out There,"
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is this classic photo a
genuine flying saucer?
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We now have tools
to analyze this
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that didn't exist 60 years ago.
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Was a camouflaged
Bigfoot recorded near a train?
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Sasquatch has been reported
with a range of colors
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from almost albino to very dark.
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Is this a ghost
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at the world's most
haunted battlefield?
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The Battle of Gettysburg
was short but deadly,
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and some of those soldiers
never left the battlefield.
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Is this a
levitating shaman?
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And did this
reward-winning footage
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capture an Icelandic Nessie?
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Many of the locals
firmly believe
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that there is some type of
strange, serpentine creature
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that lives in the lake.
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Around the
globe are videos.
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What
are those things?
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It's moving.
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Photos,
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and sounds that
defy explanation.
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We don't know
where they come from,
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who made them, or
how they operate.
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What are they?
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Some sort
of bizarre mutation.
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What's exciting
is nobody really knows.
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Extraordinary claims
need extraordinary proof.
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I'm Tony Harris,
and as a journalist
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for more than 30 years,
I've followed the facts
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where they take me.
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Now I'm bringing that
spirit of investigation
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to the world's strangest
sounds and images.
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We'll analyze each
one with top experts.
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It's a credible case,
it's a credible video.
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And pass a
verdict on what it is.
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This video was clearly faked.
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"The Proof" starts now.
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Good evening, and welcome
to "The Proof Is Out There."
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Trindade, a small
volcanic island
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located about 700 miles
off the coast of Brazil
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is well known today as
an important nesting spot
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for the endangered green turtle.
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But as you'll see
in our next story,
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turtles might not be
the only exotic visitors
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to this desolate island.
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It's high noon on
January 16th, 1958.
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The Brazilian naval training
ship, Almirante Saldanha,
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is preparing to depart
Trindade Island, Brazil.
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According to author and
historian, Amy Teitel,
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you'd be hard-pressed to find
a more esteemed group of men
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in passage to spot a UFO.
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Onboard the ship are
a number of sailors
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and also scientists
who are going out
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on an international
scientific mission.
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As the crew members gather
on deck before leaving,
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their attention is all diverted
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to this thing flying
nearby in the sky.
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The crew
immediately summons
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their esteemed
photographer, Almiro Barauna,
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and he captures
a series of images
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that would become UFO legend.
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A dark gray aerial
object looks to be flying
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over the distant mountain.
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Zooming in reveals what appears
to be a saucer-shaped object
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with a ring around its center,
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almost resembling
the planet Saturn.
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Barauna claimed the UFO
approached the island,
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flew behind a mountain peak,
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and then turned back
around the way it came.
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One of the witnesses,
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Vice Admiral Paulo de
Castro Moreira da Silva,
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said the object was
encircled by a greenish glow.
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The crew all
saw the object glowing
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before it turned
towards Wished Peak,
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then it turned sharply northwest
and disappeared from view.
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The entire encounter
lasted just 20 seconds.
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Immediately,
Barauna's photos
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became an
international sensation.
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While some were skeptical
of the photographs,
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their authenticity was
seemingly bolstered
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by multiple investigations.
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The photographs were studied
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by the Brazilian navy's aerial
reconnaissance laboratory,
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as well as the aero-
photogrammetric lab
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of Cruzeiro do Sul.
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They were deemed
to be authentic,
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taken of a real event, backed
up by the eyewitness testimony
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of military experts
and personnel.
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They were even confirmed
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by the Brazilian
president at the time.
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In the years since,
however, new details revealed
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about the incident
have drawn skepticism
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to the once bonafide evidence.
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Barauna held the negatives
away from the Brazilian navy
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for two days before
surrendering them.
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He had even cut some
of the photographs off
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of the end of the film roll.
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It's unclear whether he
tampered with the negatives
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before handing them over,
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or whether there was
something else on the film
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he didn't want seen.
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And in August of 2010,
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a Brazilian TV show
claimed he was known
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to have created hoaxed
photographs before.
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Both in spite of and
because of the controversy,
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the incident continues
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to be one of Brazil's most
famous UFO encounters,
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and that's saying something.
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The Brazilian UFO
archive spans 60 years
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and has more than 700 documented
and researched UFO cases,
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and of all of them, this is
one of the most legendary cases
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in all of Brazil's history.
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Brazilian newspapers ended up
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printing Barauna's photographs.
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He took six pictures in total,
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but the alleged saucer only
appeared in four of them,
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supposedly because he
was bumped by sailors
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during the excitement
of the event.
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Something tells me our
experts are just as hyped up
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to analyze this case.
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Visual effects and astronomy
expert Marc D'Antonio
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has seen these photos before.
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In fact, he credits them
for his getting into ufology
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in the first place.
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I grew up with this image.
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When I was a little kid,
this was my gateway UFO.
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First, D'Antonio
addresses the theory
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that this is simply a
terrestrial aircraft.
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Aircraft at the time
had very specific shapes,
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and it doesn't match any of
those configurations for 1958.
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Astrophotographer
Andrew McCarthy
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reviews another common theory
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that this object
is simply a bird.
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It's shaped somewhat
similarly to a bird in flight,
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but birds actually tend
to absorb more light,
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so they would show up
as a shadowy object
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against the relatively
bright blue sky.
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So, in this case,
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I think we can safely
rule out it being a bird.
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But examining the
shadows further alerts McCarthy
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to a detail he
considers suspicious.
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When you look at
this object closely,
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you see that the
top and bottom of it
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are roughly the same brightness.
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If this was a flying object,
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the top of it would be
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illuminated by the Sun,
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and the bottom
would be in shadow.
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And since this object
doesn't seem to obey the laws
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of physics, I have to start
looking at other explanations
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of how this managed
to get on film.
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So are these legendary
photos a hoax after all?
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One theory is that airbrushing
techniques were used
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to create a hoax, but
McCarthy disagrees.
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Airbrushing film is
basically like painting
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whatever you want directly
into the film negative,
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which, of course, would
be easily detectable
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by the Brazilian navy.
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So it may still be a
hoax, just not airbrushed.
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If there's no
smoking gun, how do we decide
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if it's real or a hoax?
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D'Antonio says the answer
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is a little more
nuanced than that.
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There's no way to look at this
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and definitively
say it's a hoax,
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or definitively say it's
real, 'cause there's problems
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with each of those
determinations.
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But if these are a hoax,
you know what I say?
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So what, why?
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Because these are images that
many people grew up with,
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and they learn to be critical
thinkers as a result of them.
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My entry into the field is in
part because of this photo.
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If it's hoaxed, it brought in
a lot of people into ufology,
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and we were better for it.
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Our verdict, for now,
this remains a genuine UFO.
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All we really know is
that a group of scientists
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claim to have seen a
glowing object in the sky
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at the same time.
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We don't think the
negatives were airbrushed,
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but we still can't explain the
anomalous light and shadow.
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This flying object could
be real, it could be fake,
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but until we learn more,
it remains unidentified.
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Now let's transfer
from a boat to a train.
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Our next video recently
set the internet on fire,
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when some tourists on this trip
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became part of a
monstrous mystery.
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October 8th, 2023,
southwest Colorado,
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a group of railway enthusiasts
is enjoying a tranquil voyage
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on the scenic Durango
and Silverton line
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when several of the
passengers spot something
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they can't quite figure out.
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One of them takes out a
camera and records this.
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A hulking, sandy-colored
figure is walking on two legs
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amongst the brush
on a rocky hillside,
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and then it squats down.
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Did you miss him?
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Look again.
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You can see the subject's
brownish coloring
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almost blend in perfectly
with his surroundings.
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This bipedal creature appears
to be massive in height
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and is taking a stroll
in an area that's,
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according to field
researcher Cliff Barackman,
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is well-known
Sasquatch territory.
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This particular
area north of Durango
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and south of Silverton has a
number of Sasquatch reports.
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People have reportedly seen
Sasquatches off of the train
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long before this
video was taken.
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Barackman suggests
that this creature's motion,
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stopping and sitting in place,
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may be indicative of
typical Bigfoot behavior.
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How many times have you
been scared of something,
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and just like,
you totally froze?
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That's called
attentive immobility.
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You've heard
of fight or flight?
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Well, attentive immobility
is a third response
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used by animals and humans alike
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when encountering a
dangerous situation.
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It's an unconscious
decision made by the brain,
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triggered by fear.
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Sasquatches have repeatedly
shown this same behavior.
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This potential Sasquatch
isn't the only giant humanoid
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that's been spotted
from America's railways.
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A mysterious creature,
dubbed the Metro Monster,
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is said to haunt
the dark corners
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of the Washington, DC Metro
system, scouring the tunnels
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of Dupont Circle and terrorizing
commuters across its path.
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So should we be fearful of
this alleged beast in Colorado?
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Let's see what
our experts think.
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We brought this uncanny footage
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to forensic video
analyst Michael Primeau
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to make sure it wasn't a fake.
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We noted that there is
a processing that was done
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in some way, shape, or form,
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with something called
image enlargement
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or pixel interpolation.
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So the images have been enlarged
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to try to gain a
more clear depiction
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of this thing within the scene.
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Although this
footage was enhanced,
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Primeau doesn't believe
anything was done to alter
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or fabricate the appearance
of the creature itself.
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We did not note any
evidence of tampering
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that would be consistent
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with third-party editing
applications or CGI in any way.
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It appears that the subject
is within this space,
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and it was captured
in real time.
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So the video is legit,
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but could that mean we're
looking at an actual Sasquatch?
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Bigfoot expert and
anthropologist, Jeff Meldrum,
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admits the camouflage
coloring of this specimen
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is congruous with the
many shades of Bigfoot.
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The Sasquatch has been
reported with a range of colors
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that span quite a spectrum,
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from almost albino
to very, very dark,
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even a light tawny color, very
similar to what we see here.
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However, according
to Meldrum, the indicators
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that this could be a
real Sasquatch end there.
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It clearly is moving
in a very contrived way.
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It seems odd that it would
venture out into the open space
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in the light of day.
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It seems unlikely that a
predator would reveal itself
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in such a overt way.
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And perhaps
the biggest red flag,
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telltale signs of a
costume being used.
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The appearance of the
fur is more indicative
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of artificial fiber.
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The legs are like straight
lines, there's no contour
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to muscle mass or limb segments,
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and it's clearly one of
the more popular costumes
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available commercially.
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So do we have any idea
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who would try to
pull off such a hoax?
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As it happens, there's
a business in the region,
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Sasquatch Expedition Campers,
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and looking at
their advertising,
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they employ a Sasquatch costume.
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As you can see,
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the similarities
between that costume
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and the creature in
the video are strong.
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So, exercising due
diligence, we reached out
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to this local business,
where we spoke with employee,
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Kass Kramer.
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Well, we got a lot of
people thinking it was us,
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and so we had fun with it.
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We made a couple little
posts maybe implying it was,
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maybe it wasn't,
but it wasn't us.
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It'd be cool to find him,
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but, what I like about Sasquatch
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is, you know, he's out there
roaming the countryside
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by himself, unbounded.
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Our verdict,
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I think we can confidently
call this one a hoax.
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While Kass and his
fellow employees
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have denied any involvement,
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I think they may be
having a little bit of fun
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pulling our leg, but as always,
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we'll still be keeping an
eye out for the real thing.
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It's been more than 160 years
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since the Battle of Gettysburg.
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Many believe this three-day
Civil War bloodbath
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left behind some of the most
haunted ground in America,
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and this video may
capture the proof.
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It's the evening of
September 2nd, 2020
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in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
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A tourist who has
asked not to be named
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is driving through the historic
battlefield with his family.
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He suddenly starts
hearing strange noises,
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and then history comes to life.
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A camera shooting through the
windshield shows two cannons
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coming up on the right
side of the road,
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when out of nowhere, a couple
of human-like silhouettes
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flash into the frame.
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One appears and
vanishes quickly,
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but the other stays in view
for a whole three seconds
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before disappearing.
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For these tourists,
who came to this area
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just to get a glimpse of the
history, to catch a glimpse
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of the afterlife I find
to be extraordinary.
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There may be a
very simple explanation
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for these ghostly apparitions.
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Gettysburg was the
single bloodiest battle
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of the Civil War,
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and these cannons from
an unspecified part
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of the battlefield likely
did their share of killing.
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This plot of
land is the bullseye.
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This is where it's happening,
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and I think this is what we
were seeing in this footage
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right by those cannons,
ghostly apparitions.
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Nearly a third
of the soldiers who fought
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in Gettysburg were
either wounded, killed,
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or reported missing
after the battle.
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Brooks says eerie energy
permeates the entire town
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to this day, and there have
been regular alleged sightings
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of Civil War ghosts.
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The Baladerry Inn
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served as a Union
field hospital.
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It has captured many, many
images of ghostly remnants
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and apparitions around the area.
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Then, there's the
Daniel Lady Farm.
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Now this served as the
Confederate field hospital.
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There are many accounts
of ghostly apparitions
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that have shown up there.
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So could these photos
and our video show the souls
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of Civil War soldiers
waiting in purgatory?
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Catholic miracle
researcher, Michael O'Neill,
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says this Christian concept
is like God's waiting room.
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According to Catholic belief,
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those people whose souls
aren't ready to meet God
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go through some
time of purgation,
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in which they're
perfected and made ready
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to be in the beatific
vision with God.
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There is no set
time for purgatory.
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Some might make the argument
that returning to the place
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of one's death is
similar to the idea
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of working through purgatory
on their way to heaven.
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There are reports of haunted
battlefields worldwide.
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In Japan, people still pray
in a cave said to be haunted
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by villagers who were
instructed by the army to die
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by mass suicide during
the Battle of Okinawa
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in World War II.
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Yet, what's the story
with the moving blurs
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back in Gettysburg?
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Let's let our experts
shine a light on this one.
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First, physicist Dr.
Matthew Szydagis examines
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if these wisps could
be mini dust devils,
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swirling columns of dirt
that, unlike tornadoes,
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form on clear weather days.
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This appears to be
a fairly grassy area.
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So I don't see any evidence
that there's loose dirt or dust,
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and I don't see any evidence
of wind elsewhere in the video.
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Then what
about the ghost theory?
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Forensic video analyst
Michael Primeau
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understands why some people see
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what looks like
human apparitions.
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As the video plays, you can
sort of see this faint line
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that's running vertically here,
and even at a certain point,
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it almost looks like you
could identify a head
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and some sort of torso.
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So Primeau goes back
in to take a closer look.
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Adding a filter called
Sobel in our enhancement tool,
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we can better see the
lines within an image,
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and thus, shows the dark-toned
circular object more clearly.
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It appears that this was
something that was recorded
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in front of the camera,
and we can explain it
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as something on the windshield.
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Primeau concludes
it's the perfect timing
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and positioning of
what's likely a dead bug,
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a water droplet, or a bit of sap
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that brings this
spooky scene to life.
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The three components
that contribute
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to the false interpretation
of these images
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are the size of the
objects, the timing,
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as it travels past these
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cannons, as well as the
direction, moving from
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the right to the left.
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They all kind of
paint this picture
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that this ghost is
running from this area,
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where they had once
lived, into the roadway,
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and that's simply not the case.
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Our verdict, conveniently
placed window smudges.
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With that said,
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we still have no explanation
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for those mysterious
noises the family heard
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at the start of this incident.
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So maybe there is more to
this than meets the eye
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and the ear.
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Iceland is home to
many natural wonders,
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including, apparently,
a humongous worm monster
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with a 16-letter name.
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Does this next video
prove the existence
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of Lagarfljotsormur?
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Is that close?
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No?
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February 2nd, 2012,
Egilsstadir, Iceland.
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Hjortur Kjerulf, a sheep farmer,
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is having his morning coffee,
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when, from the window
of his kitchen,
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he sees something strange.
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He grabs his camera
and records this.
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It appears to be a
large, worm-like creature
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swimming in the fresh
waters of Lagarfljot Lake.
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It's black in color, dusted
with ice, and is long enough
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to have several
humps in its body.
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As we push in on the video,
you can see it undulating
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through the cold winter waters.
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What's really
significant about this case
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is that we actually
have evidence
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that this thing has been
there for centuries.
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In 1585, a cartographer by
the name of Abraham Ortelius
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actually notated on his map
that the locals believed
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that there was a giant,
menacing, snake-like animal
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that lived in this
particular lake.
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But there are a number of
modern eyewitness sightings
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that are pretty notable.
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In 1983, some telephone workers
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that were maintaining some
underwater telephone cables
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encountered some kind
of strange creature
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and also learned that
the underwater cables
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had actually been
damaged by something.
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And then as recently as 1998,
a teacher and student claimed
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that they saw this
creature from a schoolhouse
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that was situated on the shore.
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The rivers and
lake around Egilsstadir
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are made from melting glaciers,
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making the waters very deep,
very dark, and very cold.
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The Lagarfljotsormurinn is
described as being anywhere
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from 20 to 30 feet long,
dark gray in color,
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with a horse-like head,
and a tail very similar
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to a whale's, and it's described
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as undulating through the
water in either a vertical
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or a horizontal fashion, which
is exactly what we're seeing
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in this particular film.
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A scientific
commission in Iceland
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actually declared this
footage as being genuine
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or authentic in 2014.
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The municipality of
Egilsstadir offered a reward
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of a half a million
Icelandic kronas,
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or about 3,600 US dollars, to
anyone who can find evidence
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that proves that the
worm-like monster is real.
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Will Hjortur be able
to collect his reward?
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We turn to our
experts to find out.
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While many speculators
have suggested
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that this could be a
giant snake of some kind,
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00:22:09,292 --> 00:22:11,707
biologist Stephanie
Manka is doubtful.
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The biggest reason
why this is not a snake
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is because this is an icy lake.
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Snakes don't live in
water as cold as this.
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They can't live
in icy conditions.
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In areas where there is
snow and ice, they hibernate
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in the winter, and they
slow down their metabolism
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so that they can survive.
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To find out
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if this could be the
famed Lagarfljotsormur,
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we turn to marine biologist,
Dr. Shea Steingass.
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An animal of this size
would need an immense amount
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of calories to survive and
thrive in these waters.
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Living in water is a lot
more energetically demanding
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because water sucks heat
away from you a lot quicker
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than in air, and the fact
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that there would be some
kind of a large-bodied worm
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living in these icy waters
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is not a real
biological possibility.
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If it isn't a snake
or the famous Icelandic worm,
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what type of animal is it?
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When you look at
the frame of reference
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of what appears to be the
head of this creature,
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you can tell it's actually
not moving forward at all.
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It looks like it's fixed in
place, and for that reason,
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I don't think this
is a living animal.
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Given Iceland's
frigid February temperatures,
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some theorize it could
be ice we're seeing.
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I don't think it's likely
that this is just ice on its own
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because if this were just ice,
it would probably break up
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and just float away.
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What we are seeing here
are likely water particles
497
00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:44,416
bouncing off of this
flexible and dynamic object,
498
00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:47,582
and it is creating a
wave-like pattern in it
499
00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:50,624
because of the
wave energy itself.
500
00:23:50,625 --> 00:23:53,707
I think this is probably
some kind of a long rope
501
00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:56,124
that has been in the
water for a long time
502
00:23:56,125 --> 00:24:01,083
and has accumulated ice and is
being buffeted by the action
503
00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:03,374
of the water around it.
504
00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:06,416
And because that ice is
broken up a little bit,
505
00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:08,749
it's able to have
a lot of movement.
506
00:24:13,542 --> 00:24:17,041
Our verdict, we're calling
this an unknown object,
507
00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:18,374
and let me explain why.
508
00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:20,999
Our experts are pretty
sure it's a frozen rope
509
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,207
that's stuck on something
and collecting ice.
510
00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:28,374
Fine, but in August 2014, an
Icelandic truth commission
511
00:24:28,375 --> 00:24:31,624
voted to authenticate
the video as genuine,
512
00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:35,374
and Hjortur
collected the reward.
513
00:24:35,375 --> 00:24:38,707
So that leaves us unsure
about either conclusion.
514
00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:40,582
One thing is certain, though.
515
00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:41,916
I deserve a round of applause
516
00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:45,582
for pronouncing all of
those Icelandic names.
517
00:24:50,542 --> 00:24:53,041
We have respect for the
world's great religions
518
00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:56,332
on this show, so we
want to tread carefully
519
00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:58,082
with this next piece.
520
00:24:58,083 --> 00:24:59,791
It's about Christianity
521
00:24:59,792 --> 00:25:03,000
and some ideas that are
truly out of this world.
522
00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:08,374
May 2023, about 12 miles
northwest of the capital
523
00:25:08,375 --> 00:25:09,916
of Tbilisi, Georgia,
524
00:25:09,917 --> 00:25:13,166
the majestic
Svetitskhoveli Cathedral
525
00:25:13,167 --> 00:25:14,624
sits on a hill.
526
00:25:14,625 --> 00:25:16,874
Inside is a painting that's
hundreds of years old,
527
00:25:16,875 --> 00:25:20,208
but just now taking
the internet by storm.
528
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,791
It's a depiction of
Jesus' crucifixion
529
00:25:24,792 --> 00:25:28,416
with what looks like two flying
saucers in the background.
530
00:25:28,417 --> 00:25:31,332
One blue, one red, their
classic dome shapes
531
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,874
have three sharp triangles
sprouting from their undersides.
532
00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:37,541
It's an image that
appears so unusual,
533
00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:40,541
it caught the attention
of Bret Nicholson,
534
00:25:40,542 --> 00:25:43,791
lead pastor of One Life
Church in Kentucky.
535
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,041
My first reaction was,
536
00:25:45,042 --> 00:25:47,082
"Wow, those look
like flying saucers."
537
00:25:47,083 --> 00:25:48,957
Typically, with scenes
of the crucifixion,
538
00:25:48,958 --> 00:25:51,874
you'll see Jesus
between two thieves.
539
00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:54,332
You'll see the people at
the base of the cross.
540
00:25:54,333 --> 00:25:56,249
What you don't see
in most portrayals
541
00:25:56,250 --> 00:25:59,541
of the crucifixion is UFOs.
542
00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:00,707
That may be true,
543
00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:02,749
but according to
author Jason Martell,
544
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:04,707
people have been
exploring the connection
545
00:26:04,708 --> 00:26:07,874
between Christianity
and UFOs for centuries.
546
00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,541
In 1584, a Christian monk
547
00:26:10,542 --> 00:26:12,707
named Giordano Bruno from Naples
548
00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:15,374
theorized that there were an
infinite number of planets
549
00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:17,207
all with intelligent life,
550
00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:21,124
each one having its own Jesus
Christ visiting that planet.
551
00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:23,624
In more recent times, my
colleague and good friend,
552
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,957
Erich von Daniken, has theorized
553
00:26:25,958 --> 00:26:27,874
that many of these depictions
554
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,999
of some type of
a religious event
555
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,749
are actually depicting some type
556
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:33,874
of an extraterrestrial
interaction,
557
00:26:33,875 --> 00:26:36,958
possibly aliens
visiting ancient man.
558
00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:40,207
We know that
ancient pagan religions
559
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:43,874
often explain things by saying
the gods were responsible.
560
00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:46,707
For instance, ancient Greeks
believed the goddess Demeter
561
00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,957
was responsible for
the changing seasons.
562
00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:52,041
Could the authors of the Bible
have done the same thing?
563
00:26:52,042 --> 00:26:54,541
If ancient astronauts
visited Earth,
564
00:26:54,542 --> 00:26:56,999
did previous civilizations
chalk this up
565
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,916
to visitations by angels
or communication from God?
566
00:27:00,917 --> 00:27:04,541
Was Jesus himself an
extraterrestrial visitor?
567
00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:06,041
Some people have
pointed out the fact
568
00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,166
Jesus Christ today
could be classified
569
00:27:08,167 --> 00:27:10,499
as some type of
higher intelligence,
570
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,166
possibly even extraterrestrial.
571
00:27:13,167 --> 00:27:15,624
This would explain some of
the miraculous abilities
572
00:27:15,625 --> 00:27:17,124
that he was able to perform.
573
00:27:19,417 --> 00:27:22,166
Pope Francis commented
that if Martians were to land
574
00:27:22,167 --> 00:27:24,791
on Earth and wanted
to be baptized,
575
00:27:24,792 --> 00:27:27,707
he would welcome
them with open arms.
576
00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,916
It seems the lines
between religion
577
00:27:29,917 --> 00:27:32,541
and ufology have
never been blurrier.
578
00:27:32,542 --> 00:27:33,874
Perhaps this painting
579
00:27:33,875 --> 00:27:35,832
can finally prove a
distinct connection.
580
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,291
First, Catholic scholar and
miracle hunter, Michael O'Neill,
581
00:27:43,292 --> 00:27:44,666
says the scripture makes clear
582
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:47,374
that Jesus was no
extraterrestrial.
583
00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:49,791
When we see Jesus walking
the Earth in the Bible,
584
00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:51,791
he does so as a human.
585
00:27:51,792 --> 00:27:56,207
We also know, Jesus, of
course, is born on Earth.
586
00:27:56,208 --> 00:28:00,082
Mary of Nazareth is
his biological mother,
587
00:28:00,083 --> 00:28:03,082
so therefore, Jesus
is not an alien.
588
00:28:03,083 --> 00:28:05,166
So if you read
the Bible literally,
589
00:28:05,167 --> 00:28:07,041
Jesus himself was human.
590
00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:09,707
But could other biblical figures
have had close encounters
591
00:28:09,708 --> 00:28:10,916
with aliens that
592
00:28:10,917 --> 00:28:13,249
they interpreted as
messages from God?
593
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:16,166
Based on modern-day
alien abduction reports,
594
00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:18,041
O'Neill doesn't
see the connection.
595
00:28:18,042 --> 00:28:20,291
Some people who
claim alien abduction
596
00:28:20,292 --> 00:28:23,207
say they've gone through
surgical experimentation
597
00:28:23,208 --> 00:28:27,249
or procedures, they've had
loss of memory or loss of time
598
00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:28,624
during that period.
599
00:28:28,625 --> 00:28:31,124
This is not similar in any way
to what we see in the Bible.
600
00:28:31,125 --> 00:28:32,957
Because these are
such drastically
601
00:28:32,958 --> 00:28:34,332
different experiences,
602
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:35,582
there's no reason at all
603
00:28:35,583 --> 00:28:37,707
to think they share
a common source.
604
00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,707
So if ufology
and Christianity
605
00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:43,249
truly don't intersect in
any way, how do we explain
606
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:46,207
what looks like flying saucers
in the painting in Georgia?
607
00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:48,457
According to
archeologist Ed Barnhart,
608
00:28:48,458 --> 00:28:50,166
looks can be deceiving.
609
00:28:50,167 --> 00:28:53,332
The principles of
art history say we look
610
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:57,582
to similar examples
to try to understand
611
00:28:57,583 --> 00:28:59,041
what these symbols are.
612
00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:01,624
There are hundreds
of these paintings
613
00:29:01,625 --> 00:29:04,082
of Jesus at crucifixion,
614
00:29:04,083 --> 00:29:08,457
and each one of them have
things floating above his face
615
00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:09,708
on the left and right,
616
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:16,792
but instead of these two alien
spaceships, they show angels.
617
00:29:18,167 --> 00:29:19,541
But Barnhart believes
that, as this painting
618
00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:23,791
is in an Eastern Orthodox
church, instead of angels,
619
00:29:23,792 --> 00:29:26,707
the artist chose another symbol.
620
00:29:26,708 --> 00:29:29,499
We know that the
Eastern Orthodox Church
621
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:33,957
focuses on the statement that
just as he was crucified,
622
00:29:33,958 --> 00:29:35,749
the sky went dark.
623
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,125
So, in standard depictions in
Eastern Orthodox crucifixion,
624
00:29:43,208 --> 00:29:48,125
we oftentimes see the sun
and the moon half covered.
625
00:29:49,042 --> 00:29:51,749
It's denoting that
eclipse moment.
626
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:54,957
So these are really very similar
627
00:29:54,958 --> 00:29:58,832
to other standard
depictions of the same time,
628
00:29:58,833 --> 00:30:02,082
in which we see a half
moon and a half sun.
629
00:30:06,583 --> 00:30:08,124
Let there be light.
630
00:30:08,125 --> 00:30:10,874
Our verdict, these
are just depictions
631
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,041
of the sun and the moon,
but scholars estimate
632
00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:16,791
there are about 4,000
different religions practiced
633
00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:19,707
throughout the world,
so who's to say?
634
00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:21,916
Maybe one of them
has been inspired
635
00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:24,333
by extraterrestrial interaction.
636
00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:31,374
We've read about it in
books, and we've seen it
637
00:30:31,375 --> 00:30:34,707
on stage and screen,
but how does it happen?
638
00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:37,499
We're talking about levitation.
639
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,041
You'll get a rise out
of this next video.
640
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:43,499
It's August 2018,
somewhere in Africa.
641
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,999
A crowd has gathered for
what looks to be a ritual
642
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,041
or celebration of sorts.
643
00:30:48,042 --> 00:30:51,874
Someone pulls out a camera
phone to record the scene.
644
00:30:51,875 --> 00:30:54,707
Drums are pounding, and
there's high-pitched singing
645
00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:58,249
as onlookers watch someone
apparently hovering several feet
646
00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:01,874
above them, floating
and flipping in the air.
647
00:31:01,875 --> 00:31:04,416
Could this be part of
some kind of ritual?
648
00:31:04,417 --> 00:31:07,207
One of the constants I
think that you will find
649
00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:11,582
in shamanic ritual is their
sort of mediating role
650
00:31:11,583 --> 00:31:13,999
between the here
and the hereafter,
651
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,541
the physical and the spiritual,
652
00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:20,541
and levitation is considered
to be sort of this bridge
653
00:31:20,542 --> 00:31:23,207
of the spirit world.
654
00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,666
Yale history and
religious studies professor,
655
00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:28,374
Carlos Eire, says
that in Catholicism,
656
00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:32,166
levitation can be seen as
a form of mystical ecstasy.
657
00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:34,666
One saint in particular,
St. Joseph of Cupertino,
658
00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:38,041
rose to the ceiling of the
Basilica of Saint Francis
659
00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:40,374
in Assisi, which is
about the same size
660
00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:43,499
as your usual
European cathedral.
661
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:48,416
He flew, literally,
forwards and backwards.
662
00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,374
Brooks says an Indian
man named Shirdi Sai Baba
663
00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:56,666
was also famous for levitating
during religious rituals,
664
00:31:56,667 --> 00:32:00,707
though it was never caught on
film since he died in 1918.
665
00:32:00,708 --> 00:32:05,332
Sai Baba's acts were so
astounding and consistent
666
00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:08,499
that actually a
revered Indian scientist,
667
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:11,166
who also witnessed
some of these acts,
668
00:32:11,167 --> 00:32:13,916
found it very difficult to deny
669
00:32:13,917 --> 00:32:15,541
that these things
were happening.
670
00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,707
Something to
bear in mind here,
671
00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:24,082
all of these historic reports
of levitation note a stillness
672
00:32:24,083 --> 00:32:26,832
of the person being levitated.
673
00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:28,999
The man in this video
is far from that.
674
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,541
So how does he do it?
675
00:32:30,542 --> 00:32:34,541
Let's ask our experts to
bring this levitation story
676
00:32:34,542 --> 00:32:35,707
down to Earth.
677
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:41,957
Theoretical physicist
Dr. Michio Kaku says
678
00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:44,666
that there are ways for
humans to become airborne
679
00:32:44,667 --> 00:32:48,541
using external forces, such as
the concentrated wind tunnels
680
00:32:48,542 --> 00:32:50,916
you'd find at an
indoor skydiving park.
681
00:32:50,917 --> 00:32:53,874
Air is blown from
the floor upwards,
682
00:32:53,875 --> 00:32:55,749
and you float on
a cushion of air.
683
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:57,374
So, airflow levitation
684
00:32:57,375 --> 00:33:00,332
is possible, but
it's not practical.
685
00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:03,207
It would have irregularities,
you would have eddy currents.
686
00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:06,124
If you are floating that
high off the ground,
687
00:33:06,125 --> 00:33:09,082
there would be air
everywhere in all directions.
688
00:33:09,083 --> 00:33:11,041
Leaves would fly around,
689
00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:12,916
people's clothing
would be fluttering,
690
00:33:12,917 --> 00:33:14,999
people's hair would be up.
691
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,166
Yet Kaku says
true levitation does exist
692
00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:20,499
via magnetic levitation.
693
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,124
A north pole and a south
pole attract each other,
694
00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:25,332
but two north poles
repel each other.
695
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:30,292
So in a maglev train, the
railroad has a north pole
696
00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:32,416
and the train has a north pole,
697
00:33:32,417 --> 00:33:34,249
and they sit on
top of each other,
698
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,332
and therefore you levitate.
699
00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,874
But you're only a fraction
of an inch off the rail,
700
00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:41,832
and it takes an enormous
amount of magnetism
701
00:33:41,833 --> 00:33:45,916
just to lift you a little bit
off the surface of the rail.
702
00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:47,832
So, though
it's not likely this man
703
00:33:47,833 --> 00:33:49,499
is being raised up by magnets,
704
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:53,457
science writer Mick West says
there are less authentic forms
705
00:33:53,458 --> 00:33:54,624
of levitation.
706
00:33:54,625 --> 00:33:57,124
There are simple
versions of levitation,
707
00:33:57,125 --> 00:34:00,582
where you basically
have a pretend foot,
708
00:34:00,583 --> 00:34:03,916
and you stick two shoes
together in front of you.
709
00:34:03,917 --> 00:34:05,707
A magician
demonstrates how,
710
00:34:05,708 --> 00:34:08,541
after covering himself with a
blanket to set up this trick,
711
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:12,041
he takes his right foot
out of the attached shoes.
712
00:34:12,042 --> 00:34:14,207
He then steps back
on that right foot
713
00:34:14,208 --> 00:34:16,957
while lifting the left
foot with the two shoes,
714
00:34:16,958 --> 00:34:19,332
making it appear as
if he's floating.
715
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:22,207
There are other
levitation devices,
716
00:34:22,208 --> 00:34:24,374
like the contort
levitation device,
717
00:34:24,375 --> 00:34:26,999
which is used by
street magicians.
718
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,207
This is basically a
very strong steel frame
719
00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:33,041
that they use to have
the illusion of balancing
720
00:34:33,042 --> 00:34:35,124
on something like a cane.
721
00:34:35,125 --> 00:34:37,332
This isn't
something that we see here.
722
00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,791
So how do we explain
this elevated feat?
723
00:34:39,792 --> 00:34:43,166
Our experts believe this
levitator has some help
724
00:34:43,167 --> 00:34:44,749
from a different type of device.
725
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:47,707
Look carefully, and you
can see that when he rotates,
726
00:34:47,708 --> 00:34:51,332
he rotates around a certain
axis, and that allows you
727
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,916
to determine whether or not
he's suspended straight up,
728
00:34:54,917 --> 00:34:58,041
or whether he's
suspended from the side.
729
00:34:58,042 --> 00:35:00,416
We see him kind of
like put his leg over it,
730
00:35:00,417 --> 00:35:03,207
like he's clambering
over a rope,
731
00:35:03,208 --> 00:35:06,041
and then he's kind of
hanging from it by his hands,
732
00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:08,249
and you see here, he's
bouncing up and down.
733
00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:10,332
This is exactly what
you would expect
734
00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:12,666
if there's a rope
that's suspended from
735
00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:15,791
somewhere over here
to perhaps this tree over here.
736
00:35:15,792 --> 00:35:18,582
And West is able
to put this levitation aid
737
00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:20,124
to the test.
738
00:35:20,125 --> 00:35:22,457
Here's a rope and here's
something on the rope,
739
00:35:22,458 --> 00:35:24,707
and it's bouncing up and down.
740
00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:26,207
Now, if you take this video
741
00:35:26,208 --> 00:35:28,249
and you kind of run it through
the type of compression
742
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:32,374
that is typical for someone
sending a cell phone video,
743
00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:34,332
you get a much lower
quality version.
744
00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,207
You can still see what's
there, what's in the scene,
745
00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,541
but the rope itself
has vanished.
746
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:42,791
So I think that's what's
happening here in the video.
747
00:35:42,792 --> 00:35:46,249
We just can't see it because
of the quality of the video.
748
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,207
Our verdict, well, let's
just take the suspense
749
00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:54,874
out of this one.
750
00:35:54,875 --> 00:35:58,041
As Mick West suggested, this
is a traditional rope dance
751
00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:00,249
from Zambia's eastern province.
752
00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:03,625
It might raise people's
spirits but not their bodies.
753
00:36:07,583 --> 00:36:10,249
On an earlier episode,
we featured a video
754
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:13,291
from a viewer who says he
successfully used the techniques
755
00:36:13,292 --> 00:36:15,874
of a movement known as CE-5,
756
00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:18,291
close encounters
of the fifth kind,
757
00:36:18,292 --> 00:36:21,457
the kind initiated
by the experiencer.
758
00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:24,124
In other words, he
believes he summoned a UFO
759
00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:26,291
he caught on camera.
760
00:36:26,292 --> 00:36:28,582
We couldn't determine what
it was the first time,
761
00:36:28,583 --> 00:36:31,541
but he was adamant we try again.
762
00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:32,417
So here goes.
763
00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:37,207
It all started on a crisp
night in October 2021,
764
00:36:37,208 --> 00:36:39,416
Bruce Waterbury was
out in his backyard
765
00:36:39,417 --> 00:36:42,332
in Meriden, Connecticut
following CE-5 protocols
766
00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:44,082
to summon a UFO.
767
00:36:44,083 --> 00:36:45,707
After meditating on the aliens,
768
00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:49,041
he grabs his night vision
binoculars, laser pointer,
769
00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:51,624
and two-way radio,
waiting for contact.
770
00:36:51,625 --> 00:36:55,332
After several minutes, something
odd appeared in his viewer,
771
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:58,541
a large bright orb,
a classic UFO shape.
772
00:36:58,542 --> 00:37:01,916
Excited that he may have
summoned an actual UFO
773
00:37:01,917 --> 00:37:03,874
using CE-5 techniques,
774
00:37:03,875 --> 00:37:06,374
Bruce immediately began
tracing the object
775
00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:07,666
with his laser pointer.
776
00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:10,124
It moves from left to
right on his screen.
777
00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:12,374
Once I circled
it, it kept moving,
778
00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:14,624
but then it got super small,
779
00:37:14,625 --> 00:37:17,582
and then kind of moved out
and up back into space.
780
00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:19,582
On our previous
episode of "Proof,"
781
00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:22,249
astronomer Marc D'Antonio
and Rich Hoffman
782
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:25,042
of the Scientific
Coalition for UAP Studies
783
00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:27,707
explored four
different possibilities
784
00:37:27,708 --> 00:37:30,707
of what Bruce's object
could and couldn't be.
785
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:33,832
They eliminated planes,
drones, and UFOs
786
00:37:33,833 --> 00:37:36,624
due to the object's
lighting and movement.
787
00:37:36,625 --> 00:37:39,499
Their best guess was
something called earth lights,
788
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,874
luminous, bright
spheres seen floating
789
00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,499
over different landscapes
around the world.
790
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,957
The earth light phenomena
is the closest match
791
00:37:46,958 --> 00:37:48,457
that I can come up with.
792
00:37:48,458 --> 00:37:51,374
But even Hoffman
admitted that was just a guess,
793
00:37:51,375 --> 00:37:53,332
and he couldn't say for sure.
794
00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:55,707
Bruce says that since
that episode aired,
795
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:59,582
he has seen the same object
over his house more than once,
796
00:37:59,583 --> 00:38:03,499
and now more than ever, he
wants a definitive answer.
797
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,999
The mystery of what this
object is has deepened
798
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,582
because no one seems to
tell me what exactly it is.
799
00:38:11,583 --> 00:38:13,541
Tell me what it is and
show me what it is,
800
00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,332
then I'll be satisfied.
801
00:38:17,458 --> 00:38:21,332
The CE-5 movement was
begun by Dr. Steven Greer,
802
00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:23,207
who founded the
Center for the Study
803
00:38:23,208 --> 00:38:25,457
of Extraterrestrial
Intelligence.
804
00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:27,499
According to Greer's protocols,
805
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,374
meditation is the key
to summoning aliens,
806
00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:32,707
which is exactly what
Bruce said he did.
807
00:38:32,708 --> 00:38:34,707
But can a more
definitive conclusion
808
00:38:34,708 --> 00:38:36,541
about his footage be reached?
809
00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:39,332
According to our own
physicist, Matthew Szydagis,
810
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:42,832
the answer is a resounding yes.
811
00:38:47,167 --> 00:38:48,749
When Szydagis saw the episode,
812
00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:51,416
he immediately
knew he could help.
813
00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:55,207
I started jumping up and
down and yelling at the TV,
814
00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:57,041
and I told my wife,
815
00:38:57,042 --> 00:39:00,167
"I know exactly what this is."
816
00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:02,916
It reminded
Szydagis of something he saw
817
00:39:02,917 --> 00:39:06,041
in July 2021 during a
UFO hunting expedition
818
00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:09,624
to Catalina Island, an island
just off the California coast
819
00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:11,791
that's considered a UFO hotspot.
820
00:39:11,792 --> 00:39:14,541
The research group
UAPX saw an object
821
00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:17,707
that looked like the one
Bruce saw in Connecticut.
822
00:39:17,708 --> 00:39:21,874
Even the scientists
on the UAPX team
823
00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:25,541
weren't able to make the
same identification initially
824
00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:28,249
when something like
this happened to them.
825
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:29,791
But
Szydagis investigated
826
00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:32,749
and realized what the
team saw over Catalina
827
00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:35,582
was the International
Space Station,
828
00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:38,332
and in Bruce's case,
he has a similar hunch.
829
00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:42,874
The ISS was over
Connecticut in October
830
00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:47,833
on at least three nights, at
8:30, 8:50 and 10:20 p.m.,
831
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:52,332
so I believe this is evidence
832
00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:56,499
that the object in
the video is the ISS.
833
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:57,707
The icing on the cake,
834
00:39:57,708 --> 00:40:00,541
Szydagis points to
other videos of the ISS
835
00:40:00,542 --> 00:40:04,249
captured with night vision,
such as this video from 2023
836
00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,874
that looks exactly the same.
837
00:40:06,875 --> 00:40:10,207
As for why so many people
mistake the ISS for a UFO...
838
00:40:10,208 --> 00:40:15,458
The ISS has all of these
properties of being a shape
839
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,874
that doesn't match
almost anything else,
840
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:23,917
and a size that's bigger
than stars or satellites.
841
00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:28,332
All of these properties
create a perfect storm
842
00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:30,499
of mistaken identity.
843
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:37,457
Thanks to Professor
Szydagis, our new verdict
844
00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:41,916
is that Bruce saw the
International Space Station.
845
00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:44,041
Bruce, we hope that
conclusion satisfies you
846
00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:46,541
even if it doesn't quite
support the premise
847
00:40:46,542 --> 00:40:48,457
of the CE-5 movement.
848
00:40:48,458 --> 00:40:49,957
And that's our show for tonight.
849
00:40:49,958 --> 00:40:52,957
If you have any intriguing
videos for us to analyze,
850
00:40:52,958 --> 00:40:54,166
do what Bruce did,
851
00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:55,541
and send them along,
852
00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:56,624
and please, keep
853
00:40:56,625 --> 00:40:58,374
those cameras rolling.
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