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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:03,207 Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There," 2 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:06,541 is this classic photo a genuine flying saucer? 3 00:00:06,542 --> 00:00:08,291 We now have tools to analyze this 4 00:00:08,292 --> 00:00:10,457 that didn't exist 60 years ago. 5 00:00:10,458 --> 00:00:13,499 Was a camouflaged Bigfoot recorded near a train? 6 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:17,249 Sasquatch has been reported with a range of colors 7 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:20,166 from almost albino to very dark. 8 00:00:20,167 --> 00:00:21,541 Is this a ghost 9 00:00:21,542 --> 00:00:23,791 at the world's most haunted battlefield? 10 00:00:23,792 --> 00:00:26,541 The Battle of Gettysburg was short but deadly, 11 00:00:26,542 --> 00:00:30,499 and some of those soldiers never left the battlefield. 12 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:33,374 Is this a levitating shaman? 13 00:00:33,375 --> 00:00:36,041 And did this reward-winning footage 14 00:00:36,042 --> 00:00:38,207 capture an Icelandic Nessie? 15 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:39,707 Many of the locals firmly believe 16 00:00:39,708 --> 00:00:42,791 that there is some type of strange, serpentine creature 17 00:00:42,792 --> 00:00:44,041 that lives in the lake. 18 00:00:49,125 --> 00:00:50,957 Around the globe are videos. 19 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:52,582 What are those things? 20 00:00:52,583 --> 00:00:53,791 It's moving. 21 00:00:53,792 --> 00:00:54,791 Photos, 22 00:00:55,875 --> 00:00:57,624 and sounds that defy explanation. 23 00:01:02,667 --> 00:01:04,499 We don't know where they come from, 24 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:06,082 who made them, or how they operate. 25 00:01:06,083 --> 00:01:07,541 What are they? 26 00:01:07,542 --> 00:01:09,374 Some sort of bizarre mutation. 27 00:01:09,375 --> 00:01:11,166 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 28 00:01:11,167 --> 00:01:14,624 Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 29 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:18,249 I'm Tony Harris, and as a journalist 30 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:20,999 for more than 30 years, I've followed the facts 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,707 where they take me. 32 00:01:22,708 --> 00:01:25,207 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 33 00:01:25,208 --> 00:01:27,667 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 34 00:01:28,958 --> 00:01:30,957 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 35 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:34,666 It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 36 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:37,457 And pass a verdict on what it is. 37 00:01:37,458 --> 00:01:39,332 This video was clearly faked. 38 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:41,708 "The Proof" starts now. 39 00:01:50,208 --> 00:01:53,332 Good evening, and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 40 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:56,291 Trindade, a small volcanic island 41 00:01:56,292 --> 00:01:59,457 located about 700 miles off the coast of Brazil 42 00:01:59,458 --> 00:02:02,291 is well known today as an important nesting spot 43 00:02:02,292 --> 00:02:04,874 for the endangered green turtle. 44 00:02:04,875 --> 00:02:06,374 But as you'll see in our next story, 45 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:09,707 turtles might not be the only exotic visitors 46 00:02:09,708 --> 00:02:11,999 to this desolate island. 47 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:16,207 It's high noon on January 16th, 1958. 48 00:02:16,208 --> 00:02:20,041 The Brazilian naval training ship, Almirante Saldanha, 49 00:02:20,042 --> 00:02:23,749 is preparing to depart Trindade Island, Brazil. 50 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:26,082 According to author and historian, Amy Teitel, 51 00:02:26,083 --> 00:02:29,082 you'd be hard-pressed to find a more esteemed group of men 52 00:02:29,083 --> 00:02:31,416 in passage to spot a UFO. 53 00:02:31,417 --> 00:02:33,999 Onboard the ship are a number of sailors 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,041 and also scientists who are going out 55 00:02:36,042 --> 00:02:38,791 on an international scientific mission. 56 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:41,499 As the crew members gather on deck before leaving, 57 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:44,124 their attention is all diverted 58 00:02:44,125 --> 00:02:46,499 to this thing flying nearby in the sky. 59 00:02:47,542 --> 00:02:49,207 The crew immediately summons 60 00:02:49,208 --> 00:02:52,332 their esteemed photographer, Almiro Barauna, 61 00:02:52,333 --> 00:02:54,541 and he captures a series of images 62 00:02:54,542 --> 00:02:56,458 that would become UFO legend. 63 00:02:57,750 --> 00:03:00,707 A dark gray aerial object looks to be flying 64 00:03:00,708 --> 00:03:02,208 over the distant mountain. 65 00:03:03,833 --> 00:03:08,582 Zooming in reveals what appears to be a saucer-shaped object 66 00:03:08,583 --> 00:03:10,207 with a ring around its center, 67 00:03:10,208 --> 00:03:12,541 almost resembling the planet Saturn. 68 00:03:12,542 --> 00:03:15,791 Barauna claimed the UFO approached the island, 69 00:03:15,792 --> 00:03:17,666 flew behind a mountain peak, 70 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:20,500 and then turned back around the way it came. 71 00:03:21,708 --> 00:03:22,791 One of the witnesses, 72 00:03:22,792 --> 00:03:26,499 Vice Admiral Paulo de Castro Moreira da Silva, 73 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:30,374 said the object was encircled by a greenish glow. 74 00:03:30,375 --> 00:03:32,957 The crew all saw the object glowing 75 00:03:32,958 --> 00:03:35,124 before it turned towards Wished Peak, 76 00:03:35,125 --> 00:03:39,374 then it turned sharply northwest and disappeared from view. 77 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:43,207 The entire encounter lasted just 20 seconds. 78 00:03:43,208 --> 00:03:45,207 Immediately, Barauna's photos 79 00:03:45,208 --> 00:03:47,541 became an international sensation. 80 00:03:47,542 --> 00:03:49,666 While some were skeptical of the photographs, 81 00:03:49,667 --> 00:03:51,957 their authenticity was seemingly bolstered 82 00:03:51,958 --> 00:03:54,249 by multiple investigations. 83 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:55,749 The photographs were studied 84 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:58,707 by the Brazilian navy's aerial reconnaissance laboratory, 85 00:03:58,708 --> 00:04:01,957 as well as the aero- photogrammetric lab 86 00:04:01,958 --> 00:04:03,457 of Cruzeiro do Sul. 87 00:04:03,458 --> 00:04:04,999 They were deemed to be authentic, 88 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,416 taken of a real event, backed up by the eyewitness testimony 89 00:04:08,417 --> 00:04:11,082 of military experts and personnel. 90 00:04:11,083 --> 00:04:12,457 They were even confirmed 91 00:04:12,458 --> 00:04:15,166 by the Brazilian president at the time. 92 00:04:15,167 --> 00:04:18,332 In the years since, however, new details revealed 93 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:20,541 about the incident have drawn skepticism 94 00:04:20,542 --> 00:04:22,749 to the once bonafide evidence. 95 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:26,082 Barauna held the negatives away from the Brazilian navy 96 00:04:26,083 --> 00:04:28,416 for two days before surrendering them. 97 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:31,041 He had even cut some of the photographs off 98 00:04:31,042 --> 00:04:32,832 of the end of the film roll. 99 00:04:32,833 --> 00:04:35,541 It's unclear whether he tampered with the negatives 100 00:04:35,542 --> 00:04:36,916 before handing them over, 101 00:04:36,917 --> 00:04:38,874 or whether there was something else on the film 102 00:04:38,875 --> 00:04:40,332 he didn't want seen. 103 00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:42,166 And in August of 2010, 104 00:04:42,167 --> 00:04:44,374 a Brazilian TV show claimed he was known 105 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:47,041 to have created hoaxed photographs before. 106 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:50,124 Both in spite of and because of the controversy, 107 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:51,499 the incident continues 108 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:54,874 to be one of Brazil's most famous UFO encounters, 109 00:04:54,875 --> 00:04:56,375 and that's saying something. 110 00:04:57,667 --> 00:05:00,791 The Brazilian UFO archive spans 60 years 111 00:05:00,792 --> 00:05:05,749 and has more than 700 documented and researched UFO cases, 112 00:05:05,750 --> 00:05:09,874 and of all of them, this is one of the most legendary cases 113 00:05:09,875 --> 00:05:12,749 in all of Brazil's history. 114 00:05:15,458 --> 00:05:17,207 Brazilian newspapers ended up 115 00:05:17,208 --> 00:05:19,457 printing Barauna's photographs. 116 00:05:19,458 --> 00:05:21,041 He took six pictures in total, 117 00:05:21,042 --> 00:05:24,749 but the alleged saucer only appeared in four of them, 118 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:27,499 supposedly because he was bumped by sailors 119 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,999 during the excitement of the event. 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,374 Something tells me our experts are just as hyped up 121 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:35,374 to analyze this case. 122 00:05:38,792 --> 00:05:41,499 Visual effects and astronomy expert Marc D'Antonio 123 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:43,374 has seen these photos before. 124 00:05:43,375 --> 00:05:46,457 In fact, he credits them for his getting into ufology 125 00:05:46,458 --> 00:05:47,457 in the first place. 126 00:05:47,458 --> 00:05:48,916 I grew up with this image. 127 00:05:48,917 --> 00:05:53,582 When I was a little kid, this was my gateway UFO. 128 00:05:53,583 --> 00:05:55,707 First, D'Antonio addresses the theory 129 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:58,207 that this is simply a terrestrial aircraft. 130 00:05:58,208 --> 00:06:01,874 Aircraft at the time had very specific shapes, 131 00:06:01,875 --> 00:06:06,333 and it doesn't match any of those configurations for 1958. 132 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:09,374 Astrophotographer Andrew McCarthy 133 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:11,374 reviews another common theory 134 00:06:11,375 --> 00:06:13,333 that this object is simply a bird. 135 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:16,707 It's shaped somewhat similarly to a bird in flight, 136 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:20,541 but birds actually tend to absorb more light, 137 00:06:20,542 --> 00:06:23,291 so they would show up as a shadowy object 138 00:06:23,292 --> 00:06:25,582 against the relatively bright blue sky. 139 00:06:25,583 --> 00:06:27,041 So, in this case, 140 00:06:27,042 --> 00:06:30,582 I think we can safely rule out it being a bird. 141 00:06:30,583 --> 00:06:33,541 But examining the shadows further alerts McCarthy 142 00:06:33,542 --> 00:06:36,332 to a detail he considers suspicious. 143 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:37,707 When you look at this object closely, 144 00:06:37,708 --> 00:06:39,291 you see that the top and bottom of it 145 00:06:39,292 --> 00:06:41,207 are roughly the same brightness. 146 00:06:41,208 --> 00:06:42,624 If this was a flying object, 147 00:06:42,625 --> 00:06:43,666 the top of it would be 148 00:06:43,667 --> 00:06:44,791 illuminated by the Sun, 149 00:06:44,792 --> 00:06:46,707 and the bottom would be in shadow. 150 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:50,666 And since this object doesn't seem to obey the laws 151 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:53,749 of physics, I have to start looking at other explanations 152 00:06:53,750 --> 00:06:56,541 of how this managed to get on film. 153 00:06:56,542 --> 00:06:59,874 So are these legendary photos a hoax after all? 154 00:06:59,875 --> 00:07:02,416 One theory is that airbrushing techniques were used 155 00:07:02,417 --> 00:07:05,457 to create a hoax, but McCarthy disagrees. 156 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:07,666 Airbrushing film is basically like painting 157 00:07:07,667 --> 00:07:10,666 whatever you want directly into the film negative, 158 00:07:10,667 --> 00:07:13,082 which, of course, would be easily detectable 159 00:07:13,083 --> 00:07:14,541 by the Brazilian navy. 160 00:07:14,542 --> 00:07:17,957 So it may still be a hoax, just not airbrushed. 161 00:07:17,958 --> 00:07:20,291 If there's no smoking gun, how do we decide 162 00:07:20,292 --> 00:07:22,499 if it's real or a hoax? 163 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,207 D'Antonio says the answer 164 00:07:24,208 --> 00:07:26,207 is a little more nuanced than that. 165 00:07:26,208 --> 00:07:27,874 There's no way to look at this 166 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:30,707 and definitively say it's a hoax, 167 00:07:30,708 --> 00:07:33,874 or definitively say it's real, 'cause there's problems 168 00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:36,082 with each of those determinations. 169 00:07:36,083 --> 00:07:38,500 But if these are a hoax, you know what I say? 170 00:07:39,208 --> 00:07:41,249 So what, why? 171 00:07:41,250 --> 00:07:45,374 Because these are images that many people grew up with, 172 00:07:45,375 --> 00:07:48,916 and they learn to be critical thinkers as a result of them. 173 00:07:48,917 --> 00:07:52,291 My entry into the field is in part because of this photo. 174 00:07:52,292 --> 00:07:57,207 If it's hoaxed, it brought in a lot of people into ufology, 175 00:07:57,208 --> 00:07:58,583 and we were better for it. 176 00:08:06,042 --> 00:08:10,541 Our verdict, for now, this remains a genuine UFO. 177 00:08:10,542 --> 00:08:13,457 All we really know is that a group of scientists 178 00:08:13,458 --> 00:08:16,457 claim to have seen a glowing object in the sky 179 00:08:16,458 --> 00:08:17,916 at the same time. 180 00:08:17,917 --> 00:08:20,416 We don't think the negatives were airbrushed, 181 00:08:20,417 --> 00:08:24,166 but we still can't explain the anomalous light and shadow. 182 00:08:24,167 --> 00:08:27,416 This flying object could be real, it could be fake, 183 00:08:27,417 --> 00:08:31,541 but until we learn more, it remains unidentified. 184 00:08:33,708 --> 00:08:36,999 Now let's transfer from a boat to a train. 185 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,541 Our next video recently set the internet on fire, 186 00:08:40,542 --> 00:08:42,749 when some tourists on this trip 187 00:08:42,750 --> 00:08:45,833 became part of a monstrous mystery. 188 00:08:46,875 --> 00:08:50,707 October 8th, 2023, southwest Colorado, 189 00:08:50,708 --> 00:08:54,624 a group of railway enthusiasts is enjoying a tranquil voyage 190 00:08:54,625 --> 00:08:57,499 on the scenic Durango and Silverton line 191 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,624 when several of the passengers spot something 192 00:08:59,625 --> 00:09:01,499 they can't quite figure out. 193 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:04,374 One of them takes out a camera and records this. 194 00:09:06,708 --> 00:09:09,832 A hulking, sandy-colored figure is walking on two legs 195 00:09:09,833 --> 00:09:12,332 amongst the brush on a rocky hillside, 196 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:13,957 and then it squats down. 197 00:09:13,958 --> 00:09:14,874 Did you miss him? 198 00:09:14,875 --> 00:09:16,041 Look again. 199 00:09:16,042 --> 00:09:17,499 You can see the subject's brownish coloring 200 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,582 almost blend in perfectly with his surroundings. 201 00:09:20,583 --> 00:09:23,832 This bipedal creature appears to be massive in height 202 00:09:23,833 --> 00:09:26,124 and is taking a stroll in an area that's, 203 00:09:26,125 --> 00:09:28,457 according to field researcher Cliff Barackman, 204 00:09:28,458 --> 00:09:31,207 is well-known Sasquatch territory. 205 00:09:31,208 --> 00:09:33,374 This particular area north of Durango 206 00:09:33,375 --> 00:09:37,082 and south of Silverton has a number of Sasquatch reports. 207 00:09:37,083 --> 00:09:40,499 People have reportedly seen Sasquatches off of the train 208 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,957 long before this video was taken. 209 00:09:42,958 --> 00:09:45,541 Barackman suggests that this creature's motion, 210 00:09:45,542 --> 00:09:47,207 stopping and sitting in place, 211 00:09:47,208 --> 00:09:50,332 may be indicative of typical Bigfoot behavior. 212 00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:53,582 How many times have you been scared of something, 213 00:09:53,583 --> 00:09:55,791 and just like, you totally froze? 214 00:09:55,792 --> 00:09:58,874 That's called attentive immobility. 215 00:09:58,875 --> 00:10:01,166 You've heard of fight or flight? 216 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:04,416 Well, attentive immobility is a third response 217 00:10:04,417 --> 00:10:06,041 used by animals and humans alike 218 00:10:06,042 --> 00:10:08,874 when encountering a dangerous situation. 219 00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:11,416 It's an unconscious decision made by the brain, 220 00:10:11,417 --> 00:10:13,082 triggered by fear. 221 00:10:13,083 --> 00:10:16,958 Sasquatches have repeatedly shown this same behavior. 222 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:23,207 This potential Sasquatch isn't the only giant humanoid 223 00:10:23,208 --> 00:10:26,082 that's been spotted from America's railways. 224 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,791 A mysterious creature, dubbed the Metro Monster, 225 00:10:28,792 --> 00:10:31,041 is said to haunt the dark corners 226 00:10:31,042 --> 00:10:34,874 of the Washington, DC Metro system, scouring the tunnels 227 00:10:34,875 --> 00:10:38,874 of Dupont Circle and terrorizing commuters across its path. 228 00:10:38,875 --> 00:10:43,541 So should we be fearful of this alleged beast in Colorado? 229 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:44,832 Let's see what our experts think. 230 00:10:49,292 --> 00:10:50,999 We brought this uncanny footage 231 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,957 to forensic video analyst Michael Primeau 232 00:10:52,958 --> 00:10:54,791 to make sure it wasn't a fake. 233 00:10:54,792 --> 00:10:57,791 We noted that there is a processing that was done 234 00:10:57,792 --> 00:10:59,541 in some way, shape, or form, 235 00:10:59,542 --> 00:11:00,916 with something called image enlargement 236 00:11:00,917 --> 00:11:02,541 or pixel interpolation. 237 00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:04,082 So the images have been enlarged 238 00:11:04,083 --> 00:11:06,749 to try to gain a more clear depiction 239 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:09,124 of this thing within the scene. 240 00:11:09,125 --> 00:11:11,124 Although this footage was enhanced, 241 00:11:11,125 --> 00:11:13,791 Primeau doesn't believe anything was done to alter 242 00:11:13,792 --> 00:11:16,374 or fabricate the appearance of the creature itself. 243 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:19,791 We did not note any evidence of tampering 244 00:11:19,792 --> 00:11:21,207 that would be consistent 245 00:11:21,208 --> 00:11:25,207 with third-party editing applications or CGI in any way. 246 00:11:25,208 --> 00:11:27,874 It appears that the subject is within this space, 247 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:29,916 and it was captured in real time. 248 00:11:29,917 --> 00:11:31,499 So the video is legit, 249 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:34,707 but could that mean we're looking at an actual Sasquatch? 250 00:11:34,708 --> 00:11:37,207 Bigfoot expert and anthropologist, Jeff Meldrum, 251 00:11:37,208 --> 00:11:40,041 admits the camouflage coloring of this specimen 252 00:11:40,042 --> 00:11:42,874 is congruous with the many shades of Bigfoot. 253 00:11:42,875 --> 00:11:47,833 The Sasquatch has been reported with a range of colors 254 00:11:48,458 --> 00:11:49,999 that span quite a spectrum, 255 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,332 from almost albino to very, very dark, 256 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:57,292 even a light tawny color, very similar to what we see here. 257 00:11:58,792 --> 00:12:00,124 However, according to Meldrum, the indicators 258 00:12:00,125 --> 00:12:02,291 that this could be a real Sasquatch end there. 259 00:12:02,292 --> 00:12:07,041 It clearly is moving in a very contrived way. 260 00:12:07,042 --> 00:12:11,541 It seems odd that it would venture out into the open space 261 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:13,374 in the light of day. 262 00:12:13,375 --> 00:12:16,707 It seems unlikely that a predator would reveal itself 263 00:12:16,708 --> 00:12:19,041 in such a overt way. 264 00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:21,374 And perhaps the biggest red flag, 265 00:12:21,375 --> 00:12:24,207 telltale signs of a costume being used. 266 00:12:24,208 --> 00:12:28,207 The appearance of the fur is more indicative 267 00:12:28,208 --> 00:12:30,250 of artificial fiber. 268 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:35,666 The legs are like straight lines, there's no contour 269 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:39,541 to muscle mass or limb segments, 270 00:12:39,542 --> 00:12:42,624 and it's clearly one of the more popular costumes 271 00:12:42,625 --> 00:12:44,666 available commercially. 272 00:12:44,667 --> 00:12:46,249 So do we have any idea 273 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:48,541 who would try to pull off such a hoax? 274 00:12:48,542 --> 00:12:50,874 As it happens, there's a business in the region, 275 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:53,541 Sasquatch Expedition Campers, 276 00:12:53,542 --> 00:12:57,624 and looking at their advertising, 277 00:12:57,625 --> 00:13:01,624 they employ a Sasquatch costume. 278 00:13:01,625 --> 00:13:02,707 As you can see, 279 00:13:02,708 --> 00:13:04,707 the similarities between that costume 280 00:13:04,708 --> 00:13:07,374 and the creature in the video are strong. 281 00:13:07,375 --> 00:13:10,374 So, exercising due diligence, we reached out 282 00:13:10,375 --> 00:13:13,624 to this local business, where we spoke with employee, 283 00:13:13,625 --> 00:13:15,332 Kass Kramer. 284 00:13:15,333 --> 00:13:17,749 Well, we got a lot of people thinking it was us, 285 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:19,166 and so we had fun with it. 286 00:13:19,167 --> 00:13:21,082 We made a couple little posts maybe implying it was, 287 00:13:21,083 --> 00:13:22,874 maybe it wasn't, but it wasn't us. 288 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:24,041 It'd be cool to find him, 289 00:13:24,042 --> 00:13:25,999 but, what I like about Sasquatch 290 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,082 is, you know, he's out there roaming the countryside 291 00:13:28,083 --> 00:13:30,749 by himself, unbounded. 292 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:36,332 Our verdict, 293 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:39,832 I think we can confidently call this one a hoax. 294 00:13:39,833 --> 00:13:41,791 While Kass and his fellow employees 295 00:13:41,792 --> 00:13:43,166 have denied any involvement, 296 00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:45,832 I think they may be having a little bit of fun 297 00:13:45,833 --> 00:13:49,041 pulling our leg, but as always, 298 00:13:49,042 --> 00:13:52,042 we'll still be keeping an eye out for the real thing. 299 00:13:56,042 --> 00:13:58,124 It's been more than 160 years 300 00:13:58,125 --> 00:14:00,124 since the Battle of Gettysburg. 301 00:14:00,125 --> 00:14:03,041 Many believe this three-day Civil War bloodbath 302 00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:06,624 left behind some of the most haunted ground in America, 303 00:14:06,625 --> 00:14:09,083 and this video may capture the proof. 304 00:14:10,458 --> 00:14:13,416 It's the evening of September 2nd, 2020 305 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:15,207 in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. 306 00:14:15,208 --> 00:14:17,541 A tourist who has asked not to be named 307 00:14:17,542 --> 00:14:20,916 is driving through the historic battlefield with his family. 308 00:14:22,375 --> 00:14:25,166 He suddenly starts hearing strange noises, 309 00:14:25,167 --> 00:14:27,791 and then history comes to life. 310 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:32,082 A camera shooting through the windshield shows two cannons 311 00:14:32,083 --> 00:14:34,374 coming up on the right side of the road, 312 00:14:34,375 --> 00:14:37,124 when out of nowhere, a couple of human-like silhouettes 313 00:14:37,125 --> 00:14:38,417 flash into the frame. 314 00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:41,374 One appears and vanishes quickly, 315 00:14:41,375 --> 00:14:44,749 but the other stays in view for a whole three seconds 316 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:46,291 before disappearing. 317 00:14:46,292 --> 00:14:49,124 For these tourists, who came to this area 318 00:14:49,125 --> 00:14:53,041 just to get a glimpse of the history, to catch a glimpse 319 00:14:53,042 --> 00:14:54,999 of the afterlife I find to be extraordinary. 320 00:14:56,292 --> 00:14:58,124 There may be a very simple explanation 321 00:14:58,125 --> 00:14:59,957 for these ghostly apparitions. 322 00:14:59,958 --> 00:15:02,374 Gettysburg was the single bloodiest battle 323 00:15:02,375 --> 00:15:03,499 of the Civil War, 324 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,541 and these cannons from an unspecified part 325 00:15:05,542 --> 00:15:08,457 of the battlefield likely did their share of killing. 326 00:15:09,583 --> 00:15:11,082 This plot of land is the bullseye. 327 00:15:11,083 --> 00:15:12,624 This is where it's happening, 328 00:15:12,625 --> 00:15:14,499 and I think this is what we were seeing in this footage 329 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:18,041 right by those cannons, ghostly apparitions. 330 00:15:18,042 --> 00:15:20,041 Nearly a third of the soldiers who fought 331 00:15:20,042 --> 00:15:22,249 in Gettysburg were either wounded, killed, 332 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:24,957 or reported missing after the battle. 333 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:28,166 Brooks says eerie energy permeates the entire town 334 00:15:28,167 --> 00:15:31,541 to this day, and there have been regular alleged sightings 335 00:15:31,542 --> 00:15:33,041 of Civil War ghosts. 336 00:15:33,042 --> 00:15:34,707 The Baladerry Inn 337 00:15:34,708 --> 00:15:37,000 served as a Union field hospital. 338 00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:41,957 It has captured many, many images of ghostly remnants 339 00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:44,874 and apparitions around the area. 340 00:15:44,875 --> 00:15:47,457 Then, there's the Daniel Lady Farm. 341 00:15:47,458 --> 00:15:51,917 Now this served as the Confederate field hospital. 342 00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:54,666 There are many accounts of ghostly apparitions 343 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,249 that have shown up there. 344 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:59,124 So could these photos and our video show the souls 345 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:02,167 of Civil War soldiers waiting in purgatory? 346 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:05,374 Catholic miracle researcher, Michael O'Neill, 347 00:16:05,375 --> 00:16:08,999 says this Christian concept is like God's waiting room. 348 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,041 According to Catholic belief, 349 00:16:11,042 --> 00:16:14,249 those people whose souls aren't ready to meet God 350 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:16,082 go through some time of purgation, 351 00:16:16,083 --> 00:16:19,082 in which they're perfected and made ready 352 00:16:19,083 --> 00:16:21,249 to be in the beatific vision with God. 353 00:16:21,250 --> 00:16:24,166 There is no set time for purgatory. 354 00:16:24,167 --> 00:16:26,541 Some might make the argument that returning to the place 355 00:16:26,542 --> 00:16:29,332 of one's death is similar to the idea 356 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:32,832 of working through purgatory on their way to heaven. 357 00:16:34,458 --> 00:16:38,207 There are reports of haunted battlefields worldwide. 358 00:16:38,208 --> 00:16:41,166 In Japan, people still pray in a cave said to be haunted 359 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:44,416 by villagers who were instructed by the army to die 360 00:16:44,417 --> 00:16:47,041 by mass suicide during the Battle of Okinawa 361 00:16:47,042 --> 00:16:48,541 in World War II. 362 00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:51,666 Yet, what's the story with the moving blurs 363 00:16:51,667 --> 00:16:53,374 back in Gettysburg? 364 00:16:53,375 --> 00:16:56,124 Let's let our experts shine a light on this one. 365 00:17:00,375 --> 00:17:03,291 First, physicist Dr. Matthew Szydagis examines 366 00:17:03,292 --> 00:17:06,166 if these wisps could be mini dust devils, 367 00:17:06,167 --> 00:17:09,124 swirling columns of dirt that, unlike tornadoes, 368 00:17:09,125 --> 00:17:10,916 form on clear weather days. 369 00:17:10,917 --> 00:17:14,749 This appears to be a fairly grassy area. 370 00:17:14,750 --> 00:17:19,332 So I don't see any evidence that there's loose dirt or dust, 371 00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:24,250 and I don't see any evidence of wind elsewhere in the video. 372 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:26,499 Then what about the ghost theory? 373 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:28,082 Forensic video analyst Michael Primeau 374 00:17:28,083 --> 00:17:29,916 understands why some people see 375 00:17:29,917 --> 00:17:32,207 what looks like human apparitions. 376 00:17:32,208 --> 00:17:36,832 As the video plays, you can sort of see this faint line 377 00:17:36,833 --> 00:17:40,457 that's running vertically here, and even at a certain point, 378 00:17:40,458 --> 00:17:44,082 it almost looks like you could identify a head 379 00:17:44,083 --> 00:17:46,042 and some sort of torso. 380 00:17:47,375 --> 00:17:50,166 So Primeau goes back in to take a closer look. 381 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:53,541 Adding a filter called Sobel in our enhancement tool, 382 00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:56,957 we can better see the lines within an image, 383 00:17:56,958 --> 00:18:01,249 and thus, shows the dark-toned circular object more clearly. 384 00:18:01,250 --> 00:18:03,624 It appears that this was something that was recorded 385 00:18:03,625 --> 00:18:07,249 in front of the camera, and we can explain it 386 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:09,583 as something on the windshield. 387 00:18:10,792 --> 00:18:13,374 Primeau concludes it's the perfect timing 388 00:18:13,375 --> 00:18:15,957 and positioning of what's likely a dead bug, 389 00:18:15,958 --> 00:18:18,207 a water droplet, or a bit of sap 390 00:18:18,208 --> 00:18:20,207 that brings this spooky scene to life. 391 00:18:20,208 --> 00:18:22,166 The three components that contribute 392 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:25,499 to the false interpretation of these images 393 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:28,791 are the size of the objects, the timing, 394 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:30,249 as it travels past these 395 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:33,124 cannons, as well as the direction, moving from 396 00:18:33,125 --> 00:18:34,541 the right to the left. 397 00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:36,124 They all kind of paint this picture 398 00:18:36,125 --> 00:18:39,707 that this ghost is running from this area, 399 00:18:39,708 --> 00:18:42,374 where they had once lived, into the roadway, 400 00:18:42,375 --> 00:18:44,582 and that's simply not the case. 401 00:18:49,208 --> 00:18:52,791 Our verdict, conveniently placed window smudges. 402 00:18:52,792 --> 00:18:53,957 With that said, 403 00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:55,541 we still have no explanation 404 00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,999 for those mysterious noises the family heard 405 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,124 at the start of this incident. 406 00:19:00,125 --> 00:19:03,457 So maybe there is more to this than meets the eye 407 00:19:03,458 --> 00:19:04,250 and the ear. 408 00:19:08,333 --> 00:19:11,457 Iceland is home to many natural wonders, 409 00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:14,874 including, apparently, a humongous worm monster 410 00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,124 with a 16-letter name. 411 00:19:17,125 --> 00:19:19,749 Does this next video prove the existence 412 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:21,625 of Lagarfljotsormur? 413 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:24,792 Is that close? 414 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:27,625 No? 415 00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:33,500 February 2nd, 2012, Egilsstadir, Iceland. 416 00:19:34,458 --> 00:19:37,082 Hjortur Kjerulf, a sheep farmer, 417 00:19:37,083 --> 00:19:39,041 is having his morning coffee, 418 00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:40,374 when, from the window of his kitchen, 419 00:19:40,375 --> 00:19:42,374 he sees something strange. 420 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:45,166 He grabs his camera and records this. 421 00:19:46,583 --> 00:19:48,707 It appears to be a large, worm-like creature 422 00:19:48,708 --> 00:19:52,416 swimming in the fresh waters of Lagarfljot Lake. 423 00:19:52,417 --> 00:19:55,707 It's black in color, dusted with ice, and is long enough 424 00:19:55,708 --> 00:19:58,291 to have several humps in its body. 425 00:19:58,292 --> 00:20:01,291 As we push in on the video, you can see it undulating 426 00:20:01,292 --> 00:20:03,666 through the cold winter waters. 427 00:20:03,667 --> 00:20:05,624 What's really significant about this case 428 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,207 is that we actually have evidence 429 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,417 that this thing has been there for centuries. 430 00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:16,250 In 1585, a cartographer by the name of Abraham Ortelius 431 00:20:17,375 --> 00:20:21,207 actually notated on his map that the locals believed 432 00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:24,207 that there was a giant, menacing, snake-like animal 433 00:20:24,208 --> 00:20:26,707 that lived in this particular lake. 434 00:20:26,708 --> 00:20:29,999 But there are a number of modern eyewitness sightings 435 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,374 that are pretty notable. 436 00:20:31,375 --> 00:20:35,041 In 1983, some telephone workers 437 00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:38,707 that were maintaining some underwater telephone cables 438 00:20:38,708 --> 00:20:41,874 encountered some kind of strange creature 439 00:20:41,875 --> 00:20:44,874 and also learned that the underwater cables 440 00:20:44,875 --> 00:20:48,124 had actually been damaged by something. 441 00:20:48,125 --> 00:20:52,957 And then as recently as 1998, a teacher and student claimed 442 00:20:52,958 --> 00:20:55,624 that they saw this creature from a schoolhouse 443 00:20:55,625 --> 00:20:57,874 that was situated on the shore. 444 00:20:57,875 --> 00:21:00,416 The rivers and lake around Egilsstadir 445 00:21:00,417 --> 00:21:02,541 are made from melting glaciers, 446 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:06,583 making the waters very deep, very dark, and very cold. 447 00:21:08,042 --> 00:21:11,541 The Lagarfljotsormurinn is described as being anywhere 448 00:21:11,542 --> 00:21:15,582 from 20 to 30 feet long, dark gray in color, 449 00:21:15,583 --> 00:21:19,416 with a horse-like head, and a tail very similar 450 00:21:19,417 --> 00:21:21,666 to a whale's, and it's described 451 00:21:21,667 --> 00:21:25,124 as undulating through the water in either a vertical 452 00:21:25,125 --> 00:21:27,916 or a horizontal fashion, which is exactly what we're seeing 453 00:21:27,917 --> 00:21:29,541 in this particular film. 454 00:21:29,542 --> 00:21:32,457 A scientific commission in Iceland 455 00:21:32,458 --> 00:21:34,916 actually declared this footage as being genuine 456 00:21:34,917 --> 00:21:37,166 or authentic in 2014. 457 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:44,166 The municipality of Egilsstadir offered a reward 458 00:21:44,167 --> 00:21:46,582 of a half a million Icelandic kronas, 459 00:21:46,583 --> 00:21:50,541 or about 3,600 US dollars, to anyone who can find evidence 460 00:21:50,542 --> 00:21:54,207 that proves that the worm-like monster is real. 461 00:21:54,208 --> 00:21:58,082 Will Hjortur be able to collect his reward? 462 00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:00,416 We turn to our experts to find out. 463 00:22:05,125 --> 00:22:06,791 While many speculators have suggested 464 00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:09,291 that this could be a giant snake of some kind, 465 00:22:09,292 --> 00:22:11,707 biologist Stephanie Manka is doubtful. 466 00:22:11,708 --> 00:22:14,166 The biggest reason why this is not a snake 467 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:18,207 is because this is an icy lake. 468 00:22:18,208 --> 00:22:21,207 Snakes don't live in water as cold as this. 469 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:23,707 They can't live in icy conditions. 470 00:22:23,708 --> 00:22:27,499 In areas where there is snow and ice, they hibernate 471 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:31,041 in the winter, and they slow down their metabolism 472 00:22:31,042 --> 00:22:33,082 so that they can survive. 473 00:22:33,083 --> 00:22:34,416 To find out 474 00:22:34,417 --> 00:22:36,416 if this could be the famed Lagarfljotsormur, 475 00:22:36,417 --> 00:22:39,874 we turn to marine biologist, Dr. Shea Steingass. 476 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:42,666 An animal of this size would need an immense amount 477 00:22:42,667 --> 00:22:46,457 of calories to survive and thrive in these waters. 478 00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:50,416 Living in water is a lot more energetically demanding 479 00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:53,707 because water sucks heat away from you a lot quicker 480 00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:56,416 than in air, and the fact 481 00:22:56,417 --> 00:22:59,374 that there would be some kind of a large-bodied worm 482 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:01,457 living in these icy waters 483 00:23:01,458 --> 00:23:04,541 is not a real biological possibility. 484 00:23:04,542 --> 00:23:07,916 If it isn't a snake or the famous Icelandic worm, 485 00:23:07,917 --> 00:23:09,499 what type of animal is it? 486 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,832 When you look at the frame of reference 487 00:23:11,833 --> 00:23:14,707 of what appears to be the head of this creature, 488 00:23:14,708 --> 00:23:17,666 you can tell it's actually not moving forward at all. 489 00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:21,291 It looks like it's fixed in place, and for that reason, 490 00:23:21,292 --> 00:23:23,749 I don't think this is a living animal. 491 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:26,332 Given Iceland's frigid February temperatures, 492 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:29,207 some theorize it could be ice we're seeing. 493 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:32,666 I don't think it's likely that this is just ice on its own 494 00:23:32,667 --> 00:23:36,332 because if this were just ice, it would probably break up 495 00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:37,874 and just float away. 496 00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:40,832 What we are seeing here are likely water particles 497 00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:44,416 bouncing off of this flexible and dynamic object, 498 00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:47,582 and it is creating a wave-like pattern in it 499 00:23:47,583 --> 00:23:50,624 because of the wave energy itself. 500 00:23:50,625 --> 00:23:53,707 I think this is probably some kind of a long rope 501 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:56,124 that has been in the water for a long time 502 00:23:56,125 --> 00:24:01,083 and has accumulated ice and is being buffeted by the action 503 00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:03,374 of the water around it. 504 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:06,416 And because that ice is broken up a little bit, 505 00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:08,749 it's able to have a lot of movement. 506 00:24:13,542 --> 00:24:17,041 Our verdict, we're calling this an unknown object, 507 00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:18,374 and let me explain why. 508 00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:20,999 Our experts are pretty sure it's a frozen rope 509 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,207 that's stuck on something and collecting ice. 510 00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:28,374 Fine, but in August 2014, an Icelandic truth commission 511 00:24:28,375 --> 00:24:31,624 voted to authenticate the video as genuine, 512 00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:35,374 and Hjortur collected the reward. 513 00:24:35,375 --> 00:24:38,707 So that leaves us unsure about either conclusion. 514 00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:40,582 One thing is certain, though. 515 00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:41,916 I deserve a round of applause 516 00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:45,582 for pronouncing all of those Icelandic names. 517 00:24:50,542 --> 00:24:53,041 We have respect for the world's great religions 518 00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:56,332 on this show, so we want to tread carefully 519 00:24:56,333 --> 00:24:58,082 with this next piece. 520 00:24:58,083 --> 00:24:59,791 It's about Christianity 521 00:24:59,792 --> 00:25:03,000 and some ideas that are truly out of this world. 522 00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:08,374 May 2023, about 12 miles northwest of the capital 523 00:25:08,375 --> 00:25:09,916 of Tbilisi, Georgia, 524 00:25:09,917 --> 00:25:13,166 the majestic Svetitskhoveli Cathedral 525 00:25:13,167 --> 00:25:14,624 sits on a hill. 526 00:25:14,625 --> 00:25:16,874 Inside is a painting that's hundreds of years old, 527 00:25:16,875 --> 00:25:20,208 but just now taking the internet by storm. 528 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,791 It's a depiction of Jesus' crucifixion 529 00:25:24,792 --> 00:25:28,416 with what looks like two flying saucers in the background. 530 00:25:28,417 --> 00:25:31,332 One blue, one red, their classic dome shapes 531 00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,874 have three sharp triangles sprouting from their undersides. 532 00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:37,541 It's an image that appears so unusual, 533 00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:40,541 it caught the attention of Bret Nicholson, 534 00:25:40,542 --> 00:25:43,791 lead pastor of One Life Church in Kentucky. 535 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,041 My first reaction was, 536 00:25:45,042 --> 00:25:47,082 "Wow, those look like flying saucers." 537 00:25:47,083 --> 00:25:48,957 Typically, with scenes of the crucifixion, 538 00:25:48,958 --> 00:25:51,874 you'll see Jesus between two thieves. 539 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:54,332 You'll see the people at the base of the cross. 540 00:25:54,333 --> 00:25:56,249 What you don't see in most portrayals 541 00:25:56,250 --> 00:25:59,541 of the crucifixion is UFOs. 542 00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:00,707 That may be true, 543 00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:02,749 but according to author Jason Martell, 544 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:04,707 people have been exploring the connection 545 00:26:04,708 --> 00:26:07,874 between Christianity and UFOs for centuries. 546 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,541 In 1584, a Christian monk 547 00:26:10,542 --> 00:26:12,707 named Giordano Bruno from Naples 548 00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:15,374 theorized that there were an infinite number of planets 549 00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:17,207 all with intelligent life, 550 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:21,124 each one having its own Jesus Christ visiting that planet. 551 00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:23,624 In more recent times, my colleague and good friend, 552 00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,957 Erich von Daniken, has theorized 553 00:26:25,958 --> 00:26:27,874 that many of these depictions 554 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,999 of some type of a religious event 555 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,749 are actually depicting some type 556 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:33,874 of an extraterrestrial interaction, 557 00:26:33,875 --> 00:26:36,958 possibly aliens visiting ancient man. 558 00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:40,207 We know that ancient pagan religions 559 00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:43,874 often explain things by saying the gods were responsible. 560 00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:46,707 For instance, ancient Greeks believed the goddess Demeter 561 00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,957 was responsible for the changing seasons. 562 00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:52,041 Could the authors of the Bible have done the same thing? 563 00:26:52,042 --> 00:26:54,541 If ancient astronauts visited Earth, 564 00:26:54,542 --> 00:26:56,999 did previous civilizations chalk this up 565 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,916 to visitations by angels or communication from God? 566 00:27:00,917 --> 00:27:04,541 Was Jesus himself an extraterrestrial visitor? 567 00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:06,041 Some people have pointed out the fact 568 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,166 Jesus Christ today could be classified 569 00:27:08,167 --> 00:27:10,499 as some type of higher intelligence, 570 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,166 possibly even extraterrestrial. 571 00:27:13,167 --> 00:27:15,624 This would explain some of the miraculous abilities 572 00:27:15,625 --> 00:27:17,124 that he was able to perform. 573 00:27:19,417 --> 00:27:22,166 Pope Francis commented that if Martians were to land 574 00:27:22,167 --> 00:27:24,791 on Earth and wanted to be baptized, 575 00:27:24,792 --> 00:27:27,707 he would welcome them with open arms. 576 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,916 It seems the lines between religion 577 00:27:29,917 --> 00:27:32,541 and ufology have never been blurrier. 578 00:27:32,542 --> 00:27:33,874 Perhaps this painting 579 00:27:33,875 --> 00:27:35,832 can finally prove a distinct connection. 580 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,291 First, Catholic scholar and miracle hunter, Michael O'Neill, 581 00:27:43,292 --> 00:27:44,666 says the scripture makes clear 582 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:47,374 that Jesus was no extraterrestrial. 583 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:49,791 When we see Jesus walking the Earth in the Bible, 584 00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:51,791 he does so as a human. 585 00:27:51,792 --> 00:27:56,207 We also know, Jesus, of course, is born on Earth. 586 00:27:56,208 --> 00:28:00,082 Mary of Nazareth is his biological mother, 587 00:28:00,083 --> 00:28:03,082 so therefore, Jesus is not an alien. 588 00:28:03,083 --> 00:28:05,166 So if you read the Bible literally, 589 00:28:05,167 --> 00:28:07,041 Jesus himself was human. 590 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:09,707 But could other biblical figures have had close encounters 591 00:28:09,708 --> 00:28:10,916 with aliens that 592 00:28:10,917 --> 00:28:13,249 they interpreted as messages from God? 593 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:16,166 Based on modern-day alien abduction reports, 594 00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:18,041 O'Neill doesn't see the connection. 595 00:28:18,042 --> 00:28:20,291 Some people who claim alien abduction 596 00:28:20,292 --> 00:28:23,207 say they've gone through surgical experimentation 597 00:28:23,208 --> 00:28:27,249 or procedures, they've had loss of memory or loss of time 598 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:28,624 during that period. 599 00:28:28,625 --> 00:28:31,124 This is not similar in any way to what we see in the Bible. 600 00:28:31,125 --> 00:28:32,957 Because these are such drastically 601 00:28:32,958 --> 00:28:34,332 different experiences, 602 00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:35,582 there's no reason at all 603 00:28:35,583 --> 00:28:37,707 to think they share a common source. 604 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,707 So if ufology and Christianity 605 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:43,249 truly don't intersect in any way, how do we explain 606 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:46,207 what looks like flying saucers in the painting in Georgia? 607 00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:48,457 According to archeologist Ed Barnhart, 608 00:28:48,458 --> 00:28:50,166 looks can be deceiving. 609 00:28:50,167 --> 00:28:53,332 The principles of art history say we look 610 00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:57,582 to similar examples to try to understand 611 00:28:57,583 --> 00:28:59,041 what these symbols are. 612 00:28:59,042 --> 00:29:01,624 There are hundreds of these paintings 613 00:29:01,625 --> 00:29:04,082 of Jesus at crucifixion, 614 00:29:04,083 --> 00:29:08,457 and each one of them have things floating above his face 615 00:29:08,458 --> 00:29:09,708 on the left and right, 616 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:16,792 but instead of these two alien spaceships, they show angels. 617 00:29:18,167 --> 00:29:19,541 But Barnhart believes that, as this painting 618 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:23,791 is in an Eastern Orthodox church, instead of angels, 619 00:29:23,792 --> 00:29:26,707 the artist chose another symbol. 620 00:29:26,708 --> 00:29:29,499 We know that the Eastern Orthodox Church 621 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:33,957 focuses on the statement that just as he was crucified, 622 00:29:33,958 --> 00:29:35,749 the sky went dark. 623 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,125 So, in standard depictions in Eastern Orthodox crucifixion, 624 00:29:43,208 --> 00:29:48,125 we oftentimes see the sun and the moon half covered. 625 00:29:49,042 --> 00:29:51,749 It's denoting that eclipse moment. 626 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:54,957 So these are really very similar 627 00:29:54,958 --> 00:29:58,832 to other standard depictions of the same time, 628 00:29:58,833 --> 00:30:02,082 in which we see a half moon and a half sun. 629 00:30:06,583 --> 00:30:08,124 Let there be light. 630 00:30:08,125 --> 00:30:10,874 Our verdict, these are just depictions 631 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,041 of the sun and the moon, but scholars estimate 632 00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:16,791 there are about 4,000 different religions practiced 633 00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:19,707 throughout the world, so who's to say? 634 00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:21,916 Maybe one of them has been inspired 635 00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:24,333 by extraterrestrial interaction. 636 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:31,374 We've read about it in books, and we've seen it 637 00:30:31,375 --> 00:30:34,707 on stage and screen, but how does it happen? 638 00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:37,499 We're talking about levitation. 639 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,041 You'll get a rise out of this next video. 640 00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:43,499 It's August 2018, somewhere in Africa. 641 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,999 A crowd has gathered for what looks to be a ritual 642 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,041 or celebration of sorts. 643 00:30:48,042 --> 00:30:51,874 Someone pulls out a camera phone to record the scene. 644 00:30:51,875 --> 00:30:54,707 Drums are pounding, and there's high-pitched singing 645 00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:58,249 as onlookers watch someone apparently hovering several feet 646 00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:01,874 above them, floating and flipping in the air. 647 00:31:01,875 --> 00:31:04,416 Could this be part of some kind of ritual? 648 00:31:04,417 --> 00:31:07,207 One of the constants I think that you will find 649 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:11,582 in shamanic ritual is their sort of mediating role 650 00:31:11,583 --> 00:31:13,999 between the here and the hereafter, 651 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,541 the physical and the spiritual, 652 00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:20,541 and levitation is considered to be sort of this bridge 653 00:31:20,542 --> 00:31:23,207 of the spirit world. 654 00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,666 Yale history and religious studies professor, 655 00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:28,374 Carlos Eire, says that in Catholicism, 656 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:32,166 levitation can be seen as a form of mystical ecstasy. 657 00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:34,666 One saint in particular, St. Joseph of Cupertino, 658 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:38,041 rose to the ceiling of the Basilica of Saint Francis 659 00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:40,374 in Assisi, which is about the same size 660 00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:43,499 as your usual European cathedral. 661 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:48,416 He flew, literally, forwards and backwards. 662 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,374 Brooks says an Indian man named Shirdi Sai Baba 663 00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:56,666 was also famous for levitating during religious rituals, 664 00:31:56,667 --> 00:32:00,707 though it was never caught on film since he died in 1918. 665 00:32:00,708 --> 00:32:05,332 Sai Baba's acts were so astounding and consistent 666 00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:08,499 that actually a revered Indian scientist, 667 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:11,166 who also witnessed some of these acts, 668 00:32:11,167 --> 00:32:13,916 found it very difficult to deny 669 00:32:13,917 --> 00:32:15,541 that these things were happening. 670 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,707 Something to bear in mind here, 671 00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:24,082 all of these historic reports of levitation note a stillness 672 00:32:24,083 --> 00:32:26,832 of the person being levitated. 673 00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:28,999 The man in this video is far from that. 674 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,541 So how does he do it? 675 00:32:30,542 --> 00:32:34,541 Let's ask our experts to bring this levitation story 676 00:32:34,542 --> 00:32:35,707 down to Earth. 677 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:41,957 Theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku says 678 00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:44,666 that there are ways for humans to become airborne 679 00:32:44,667 --> 00:32:48,541 using external forces, such as the concentrated wind tunnels 680 00:32:48,542 --> 00:32:50,916 you'd find at an indoor skydiving park. 681 00:32:50,917 --> 00:32:53,874 Air is blown from the floor upwards, 682 00:32:53,875 --> 00:32:55,749 and you float on a cushion of air. 683 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:57,374 So, airflow levitation 684 00:32:57,375 --> 00:33:00,332 is possible, but it's not practical. 685 00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:03,207 It would have irregularities, you would have eddy currents. 686 00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:06,124 If you are floating that high off the ground, 687 00:33:06,125 --> 00:33:09,082 there would be air everywhere in all directions. 688 00:33:09,083 --> 00:33:11,041 Leaves would fly around, 689 00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:12,916 people's clothing would be fluttering, 690 00:33:12,917 --> 00:33:14,999 people's hair would be up. 691 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,166 Yet Kaku says true levitation does exist 692 00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:20,499 via magnetic levitation. 693 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,124 A north pole and a south pole attract each other, 694 00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:25,332 but two north poles repel each other. 695 00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:30,292 So in a maglev train, the railroad has a north pole 696 00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:32,416 and the train has a north pole, 697 00:33:32,417 --> 00:33:34,249 and they sit on top of each other, 698 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,332 and therefore you levitate. 699 00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:39,874 But you're only a fraction of an inch off the rail, 700 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:41,832 and it takes an enormous amount of magnetism 701 00:33:41,833 --> 00:33:45,916 just to lift you a little bit off the surface of the rail. 702 00:33:45,917 --> 00:33:47,832 So, though it's not likely this man 703 00:33:47,833 --> 00:33:49,499 is being raised up by magnets, 704 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:53,457 science writer Mick West says there are less authentic forms 705 00:33:53,458 --> 00:33:54,624 of levitation. 706 00:33:54,625 --> 00:33:57,124 There are simple versions of levitation, 707 00:33:57,125 --> 00:34:00,582 where you basically have a pretend foot, 708 00:34:00,583 --> 00:34:03,916 and you stick two shoes together in front of you. 709 00:34:03,917 --> 00:34:05,707 A magician demonstrates how, 710 00:34:05,708 --> 00:34:08,541 after covering himself with a blanket to set up this trick, 711 00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:12,041 he takes his right foot out of the attached shoes. 712 00:34:12,042 --> 00:34:14,207 He then steps back on that right foot 713 00:34:14,208 --> 00:34:16,957 while lifting the left foot with the two shoes, 714 00:34:16,958 --> 00:34:19,332 making it appear as if he's floating. 715 00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:22,207 There are other levitation devices, 716 00:34:22,208 --> 00:34:24,374 like the contort levitation device, 717 00:34:24,375 --> 00:34:26,999 which is used by street magicians. 718 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,207 This is basically a very strong steel frame 719 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:33,041 that they use to have the illusion of balancing 720 00:34:33,042 --> 00:34:35,124 on something like a cane. 721 00:34:35,125 --> 00:34:37,332 This isn't something that we see here. 722 00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,791 So how do we explain this elevated feat? 723 00:34:39,792 --> 00:34:43,166 Our experts believe this levitator has some help 724 00:34:43,167 --> 00:34:44,749 from a different type of device. 725 00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:47,707 Look carefully, and you can see that when he rotates, 726 00:34:47,708 --> 00:34:51,332 he rotates around a certain axis, and that allows you 727 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,916 to determine whether or not he's suspended straight up, 728 00:34:54,917 --> 00:34:58,041 or whether he's suspended from the side. 729 00:34:58,042 --> 00:35:00,416 We see him kind of like put his leg over it, 730 00:35:00,417 --> 00:35:03,207 like he's clambering over a rope, 731 00:35:03,208 --> 00:35:06,041 and then he's kind of hanging from it by his hands, 732 00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:08,249 and you see here, he's bouncing up and down. 733 00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:10,332 This is exactly what you would expect 734 00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:12,666 if there's a rope that's suspended from 735 00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:15,791 somewhere over here to perhaps this tree over here. 736 00:35:15,792 --> 00:35:18,582 And West is able to put this levitation aid 737 00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:20,124 to the test. 738 00:35:20,125 --> 00:35:22,457 Here's a rope and here's something on the rope, 739 00:35:22,458 --> 00:35:24,707 and it's bouncing up and down. 740 00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:26,207 Now, if you take this video 741 00:35:26,208 --> 00:35:28,249 and you kind of run it through the type of compression 742 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:32,374 that is typical for someone sending a cell phone video, 743 00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:34,332 you get a much lower quality version. 744 00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:37,207 You can still see what's there, what's in the scene, 745 00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,541 but the rope itself has vanished. 746 00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:42,791 So I think that's what's happening here in the video. 747 00:35:42,792 --> 00:35:46,249 We just can't see it because of the quality of the video. 748 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,207 Our verdict, well, let's just take the suspense 749 00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:54,874 out of this one. 750 00:35:54,875 --> 00:35:58,041 As Mick West suggested, this is a traditional rope dance 751 00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:00,249 from Zambia's eastern province. 752 00:36:00,250 --> 00:36:03,625 It might raise people's spirits but not their bodies. 753 00:36:07,583 --> 00:36:10,249 On an earlier episode, we featured a video 754 00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:13,291 from a viewer who says he successfully used the techniques 755 00:36:13,292 --> 00:36:15,874 of a movement known as CE-5, 756 00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:18,291 close encounters of the fifth kind, 757 00:36:18,292 --> 00:36:21,457 the kind initiated by the experiencer. 758 00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:24,124 In other words, he believes he summoned a UFO 759 00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:26,291 he caught on camera. 760 00:36:26,292 --> 00:36:28,582 We couldn't determine what it was the first time, 761 00:36:28,583 --> 00:36:31,541 but he was adamant we try again. 762 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:32,417 So here goes. 763 00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:37,207 It all started on a crisp night in October 2021, 764 00:36:37,208 --> 00:36:39,416 Bruce Waterbury was out in his backyard 765 00:36:39,417 --> 00:36:42,332 in Meriden, Connecticut following CE-5 protocols 766 00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:44,082 to summon a UFO. 767 00:36:44,083 --> 00:36:45,707 After meditating on the aliens, 768 00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:49,041 he grabs his night vision binoculars, laser pointer, 769 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:51,624 and two-way radio, waiting for contact. 770 00:36:51,625 --> 00:36:55,332 After several minutes, something odd appeared in his viewer, 771 00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:58,541 a large bright orb, a classic UFO shape. 772 00:36:58,542 --> 00:37:01,916 Excited that he may have summoned an actual UFO 773 00:37:01,917 --> 00:37:03,874 using CE-5 techniques, 774 00:37:03,875 --> 00:37:06,374 Bruce immediately began tracing the object 775 00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:07,666 with his laser pointer. 776 00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:10,124 It moves from left to right on his screen. 777 00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:12,374 Once I circled it, it kept moving, 778 00:37:12,375 --> 00:37:14,624 but then it got super small, 779 00:37:14,625 --> 00:37:17,582 and then kind of moved out and up back into space. 780 00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:19,582 On our previous episode of "Proof," 781 00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:22,249 astronomer Marc D'Antonio and Rich Hoffman 782 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:25,042 of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies 783 00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:27,707 explored four different possibilities 784 00:37:27,708 --> 00:37:30,707 of what Bruce's object could and couldn't be. 785 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:33,832 They eliminated planes, drones, and UFOs 786 00:37:33,833 --> 00:37:36,624 due to the object's lighting and movement. 787 00:37:36,625 --> 00:37:39,499 Their best guess was something called earth lights, 788 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,874 luminous, bright spheres seen floating 789 00:37:41,875 --> 00:37:44,499 over different landscapes around the world. 790 00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,957 The earth light phenomena is the closest match 791 00:37:46,958 --> 00:37:48,457 that I can come up with. 792 00:37:48,458 --> 00:37:51,374 But even Hoffman admitted that was just a guess, 793 00:37:51,375 --> 00:37:53,332 and he couldn't say for sure. 794 00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:55,707 Bruce says that since that episode aired, 795 00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:59,582 he has seen the same object over his house more than once, 796 00:37:59,583 --> 00:38:03,499 and now more than ever, he wants a definitive answer. 797 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,999 The mystery of what this object is has deepened 798 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,582 because no one seems to tell me what exactly it is. 799 00:38:11,583 --> 00:38:13,541 Tell me what it is and show me what it is, 800 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,332 then I'll be satisfied. 801 00:38:17,458 --> 00:38:21,332 The CE-5 movement was begun by Dr. Steven Greer, 802 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:23,207 who founded the Center for the Study 803 00:38:23,208 --> 00:38:25,457 of Extraterrestrial Intelligence. 804 00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:27,499 According to Greer's protocols, 805 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:30,374 meditation is the key to summoning aliens, 806 00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:32,707 which is exactly what Bruce said he did. 807 00:38:32,708 --> 00:38:34,707 But can a more definitive conclusion 808 00:38:34,708 --> 00:38:36,541 about his footage be reached? 809 00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:39,332 According to our own physicist, Matthew Szydagis, 810 00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:42,832 the answer is a resounding yes. 811 00:38:47,167 --> 00:38:48,749 When Szydagis saw the episode, 812 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:51,416 he immediately knew he could help. 813 00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:55,207 I started jumping up and down and yelling at the TV, 814 00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:57,041 and I told my wife, 815 00:38:57,042 --> 00:39:00,167 "I know exactly what this is." 816 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:02,916 It reminded Szydagis of something he saw 817 00:39:02,917 --> 00:39:06,041 in July 2021 during a UFO hunting expedition 818 00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:09,624 to Catalina Island, an island just off the California coast 819 00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:11,791 that's considered a UFO hotspot. 820 00:39:11,792 --> 00:39:14,541 The research group UAPX saw an object 821 00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:17,707 that looked like the one Bruce saw in Connecticut. 822 00:39:17,708 --> 00:39:21,874 Even the scientists on the UAPX team 823 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:25,541 weren't able to make the same identification initially 824 00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:28,249 when something like this happened to them. 825 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:29,791 But Szydagis investigated 826 00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:32,749 and realized what the team saw over Catalina 827 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:35,582 was the International Space Station, 828 00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:38,332 and in Bruce's case, he has a similar hunch. 829 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:42,874 The ISS was over Connecticut in October 830 00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:47,833 on at least three nights, at 8:30, 8:50 and 10:20 p.m., 831 00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:52,332 so I believe this is evidence 832 00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:56,499 that the object in the video is the ISS. 833 00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:57,707 The icing on the cake, 834 00:39:57,708 --> 00:40:00,541 Szydagis points to other videos of the ISS 835 00:40:00,542 --> 00:40:04,249 captured with night vision, such as this video from 2023 836 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,874 that looks exactly the same. 837 00:40:06,875 --> 00:40:10,207 As for why so many people mistake the ISS for a UFO... 838 00:40:10,208 --> 00:40:15,458 The ISS has all of these properties of being a shape 839 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,874 that doesn't match almost anything else, 840 00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:23,917 and a size that's bigger than stars or satellites. 841 00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:28,332 All of these properties create a perfect storm 842 00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:30,499 of mistaken identity. 843 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:37,457 Thanks to Professor Szydagis, our new verdict 844 00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:41,916 is that Bruce saw the International Space Station. 845 00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:44,041 Bruce, we hope that conclusion satisfies you 846 00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:46,541 even if it doesn't quite support the premise 847 00:40:46,542 --> 00:40:48,457 of the CE-5 movement. 848 00:40:48,458 --> 00:40:49,957 And that's our show for tonight. 849 00:40:49,958 --> 00:40:52,957 If you have any intriguing videos for us to analyze, 850 00:40:52,958 --> 00:40:54,166 do what Bruce did, 851 00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:55,541 and send them along, 852 00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:56,624 and please, keep 853 00:40:56,625 --> 00:40:58,374 those cameras rolling. 68367

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