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Now, Piper, it's your turn to feel what
Hulkamania feels like coming down heavy
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on you, brother.
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Hulk Hogan was the greatest protagonist
you could have, and Roddy Piper was the
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greatest antagonist you could possibly
have.
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This Hulkamania is going wild all over
the place. Piper was the opposite of
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Hogan. He was the bad boy.
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I had no idea where it was going to go
when he was on my screen.
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Roddy Piper's just gone bananas!
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There was legitimate heat between me and
Piper. I think it was detrimental to us
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really moving forward.
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Oh, my God, I was going to have a
nervous breakdown.
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It was always a war.
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Oh, and a shootout, ladies and
gentlemen.
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But, you know, I'm not a bad guy, okay?
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I'm the reason you've got no hair.
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We haven't had our last dance.
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I'm the only guy you have never...
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When two legends collide, their rivalry
stays pinned in our minds forever.
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This is where we break down the
legendary stories behind the greatest
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of all time.
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I'm Freddie Prinze Jr.
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And this is WWE Rivals.
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You do not throw rocks at a man who's
got a machine gun.
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We're going way back in time on this
one. And we're going to the early 80s.
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was good guy and bad guy.
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It was a simple story. And it was the
birth of a beautiful rivalry.
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It was with Hulk Hogan, who everyone
believed in. And it was one of the
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heels. Of all time, rowdy, rowdy, Piper.
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Piper was an icon in the business.
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Those two figures, you know, just bigger
than life.
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They're so different, but both of them
had, you know, definitely crossed over
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into mainstream popularity.
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It was the birth of WrestleMania.
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It was the birth of MTV.
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It was the birth of pop culture, sort
of, as we know it.
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Everything's on the line.
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There was this unwritten sort of rule
within the wrestling industry that
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owned certain territories.
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And there was like this gentleman's sort
of agreement, I guess, that you didn't
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go into the other guy's territory.
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You could work six months in Florida,
six months in California, six months in
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Portland, six months in Texas.
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I wrestled in the AWA for like three
years. And I had the Hulkamania thing
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figured out. I was selling T -shirts,
merchandise, headbands.
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Started to Hollywood it up a little bit,
really just defining that character and
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really getting it dialed in.
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When you're on
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a roll and when you think positive,
sometimes overconfidence can work for
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And I know sooner or later, my time is
going to come.
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In this time frame, as cable TV is
coming along, Vince sees that cable TV
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coming, and he realizes national
expansion in front of the world is
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One day, we hope to be recognized as the
premier sort of sports entertainment in
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the world today.
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He saw advertising.
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He saw Hollywood. He saw everything that
WWE could be and more.
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to All
-American Wrestling.
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As soon as Vince had that cable signal.
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To infinity and beyond, there was
nowhere that Vince couldn't go with his
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and what he wanted to do. He now had the
vehicle to get there and do what needed
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to be done.
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And because of their nationwide
audience, the World Wrestling Federation
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been able to create coast -to -coast
heroes and villains.
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My dad recognized that America needed a
hero they could believe in. And he
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took one look at Hulk Hogan.
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and knew that that was the hero that
needed to be the beacon for fans all
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the world.
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And the next thing I knew, Vince McMahon
came to my house, and he pretty much
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laid his vision out of the WWE becoming
an international phenomenon, you know,
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taking over the whole world of the WWE.
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The recognized symbol of excellence in
sports entertainment.
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It took me about two seconds to say, I'm
in.
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When I came to work for the WWE and for
the McMahons, I had no idea what kind of
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momentum we were going to get.
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Vince wanted Hulk and made him run wild.
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And the rest is history.
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I feel the energy Hulkamania is running
worldwide, and I felt everyone standing
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behind me all the way, and it felt
great.
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Hulk Hogan, for me, was a comic book
come to life. I couldn't fully grasp it.
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You know, from my little kid brain, it
was just everything awesome.
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I've been training and praying to my
parents to eat my vitamins, and
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I go, man.
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The people are training in the parking
lots, posing in the gym.
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Hulkamaniacs running wild all over the
world. And every time I step in the
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it's like there's a thousand people
stepping in there with me. A thousand
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Hulkamaniacs.
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Have a nice day.
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Go yourself.
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Give me the microphone and get out of my
way.
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From Glasgow, Scotland, weighing 232
pounds, Rowdy.
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Roddy Piper first made a name for
himself outside of the WWE in the Mid
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-Atlantic and Portland territories.
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But right around 1984, Vince McMahon
realized that Roddy Piper was the guy
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he wanted to be his main antagonist.
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This week, you have the opportunity of
seeing someone, a very, very special
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guest, the most intelligent man that I
have ever met in my entire life.
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A man who takes things into his own
hands. A man who gets things done.
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and gentlemen, I would like to introduce
to you at this time.
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Piper was the opposite of Hulk Hogan. He
was the bad boy.
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Ladies!
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No, we're in New York, aren't we? There
ain't none of those here.
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Let me see if I can get this straight.
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People!
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To me, Roddy felt dangerous, and that's
why I couldn't take my eyes off him. I
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had no idea where it was going to go
when he was on my screen.
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And there was something really, really
exciting and also scary about that.
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Hulk was red, white, and blue and doing
everything right, and Roddy Piper was
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this cynical, just really nasty, evil
man that despised everything that Hulk
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Hogan stood for.
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All of a sudden, this Hulkamania is
going wild all over the place, and he's
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becoming a legend.
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There was legitimate heat between me and
Piper.
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Well, you know something, Piper? I
didn't know how low a man could go, but
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you've hit the bottom, brother.
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Piper wanted the Hulk Hogan spot.
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That's the nature of this business, is
to be the number one guy and to be the
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champ. And it was very verbal that, you
know, Piper didn't like me. I mean,
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really didn't like me.
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Wrestling was approaching.
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fever pitch at that time. Piper and
Hogan were the two hottest wrestlers in
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WWE.
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Everywhere you go, everybody is talking
about Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper.
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And that's when MTV got in it.
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In 1984, some of the WWE
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superstars started appearing on MTV.
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While at the same time, some of the
heaviest hitters in the music industry
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started appearing on WWE shows.
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I have a gold and platinum record to
give to the World Wrestling Federation
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the fans.
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Cindy Lauper showing her appreciation in
presenting a gold and platinum record
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to the World Wrestling Federation.
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Roddy Piper at the time, his character
was very anti -rock and roll.
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you know, anti -fun.
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I want to present you with this.
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Oh, look out!
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Captain Lou O 'Battle, Clover!
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Look it, Roddy Piper's just gone
bananas!
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David Wong trying to come to the rescue,
but he's no match!
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Oh, he pound drives it right down into
the canvas.
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Roddy Piper's gone crazy here!
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I have pictures.
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The female vocalist of the year, Cyndi
Lauper in the head.
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I tortured Hogan.
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The future of professional wrestling,
the future of rock and roll is down the
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toilet.
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Vince was always looking for outside
things to help bring new eyes, and MTV
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one of them. And we get the rockin'
wrestling, which will never be used
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that term, but it was so perfect for the
80s.
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The Rockin' Wrestling Connection was
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a
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marketing tool utilized by WWE and MTV
to promote each other's stars.
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You're seeing your favorite wrestlers on
TV, and you're seeing them with these
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rock stars, and you're seeing them with
Cyndi Lauper.
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All of a sudden, this became mainstream
popular.
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Hulk is going to put you down, man.
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He's going to put you down so low,
you're going to have to look up to see a
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skirt. MTV was so invested in the rock
and wrestling connection that they put
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together their own WWE event.
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It was the show that featured the first
match between Hulk Hogan and Roddy
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Piper. Two proud men with such different
viewpoints, backgrounds.
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It seems written in the stars that
ultimately these two men would clash
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This was the inception point. The
psychology of these two men and the
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tell their story all started at this
moment.
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Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, the war
to settle the score.
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We've talked about it. The Rocket
Wrestling Connection, the hottest ticket
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town, the biggest and the best. And
tonight on MTV, live, ladies and
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Hulk Hogan with the conference against
challenger Ronnie Roddy Piper.
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The war to settle the score, it was a
whole different electricity.
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But there was no teamwork whatsoever
because the plan was to take over the
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world with Hogan.
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In the plan, you forgot that it takes
two tangles.
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That's when things really elevated as
far as animosity.
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Whenever I went in there against Piper.
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It was always a war.
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I used to beat the shit out of him, and
he'd give it right back to me.
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You had to take what you could get in
there.
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Oh, what a shootout, ladies and
gentlemen.
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I cannot believe it. The war to settle
the score, I just
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remember, like, it feeling like chaos.
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And it really felt like New York was
going to come over that barricade at any
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second.
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Oh, please.
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Oh,
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you've got to be kidding me.
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Please.
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Here comes Mr.
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T, ladies and gentlemen.
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When I first jumped in the ring, it was
wild.
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That's the only thing I can say. It was
just wild.
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Look at these two. Piper doesn't know
what to do.
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Hogan getting a clean pinfall or
submission would have been the most
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way to conclude the match.
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But unfortunately, that didn't happen.
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There was still that old school
mentality to protect myself.
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Back then, he didn't want to put me
over. And that's why the finish was
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up.
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The winner of this bout, as a result of
a disqualification,
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Hulk Hogan!
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Typically, a disqualification in a match
in the form of storytelling.
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leaves a very unclear, unsatisfying
closure to that story.
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Hogan was the face of business.
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And I agree, he should have been.
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But everybody was butting heads.
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The only way this guy holds his title is
he has this stupid guy with some
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ridiculous haircut. All of a sudden, all
these people are flooding the ring. If
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you ain't got enough guts to fight me
one -on -one, mister, then take a hike
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leave the title with me.
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Now we've got MTV on our side.
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New demo, new kids, new audience, you
know, plugged in.
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It was just like throwing big tanks of
gas on the fire. We knew once MTV got on
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board, this thing was going to be a
monster.
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Anytime you need me, I'll be there,
brother.
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You're my man. I think you're the
greatest. It was great to see Mr. T come
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there and help the Hulk. I mean, it was
incredible.
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In the mid-'80s, Mr.
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T was a huge star, celebrity, actor,
household name. And so the WWE
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brought him in to elevate the Hulk Hogan
and Roddy Piper rivalry.
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That's why the rock and wrestling
connection was so cool, because it was
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blend of what was hot. It was hot. Yeah.
That was the beginning of Hollywood.
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transforming over to professional
wrestling, opposed to professional
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wanting to, you know, be Hollywood.
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That brings us to WrestleMania number
one, which was a spectacle, to say the
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least. The biggest wrestling
extravaganza of all time.
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That big tag team match.
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Mr. Controversy, Rowdy Roddy Piper, and
Mr. Wonderful, Paul Orndorff, with ace
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cowboy Bob Orton in their corner, to
meet World Wrestling Federation
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champ, Paul Kogan, his partner, Mr.
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T.
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Vince being the pioneer that he is, you
say, wow, we're going to broaden and
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bring it to the world. So you got Sidney
Lauper there. You got the MTV crowd.
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You got Mr. T from the A -Team.
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That audience say, hey, now, people say,
wow, Mr. T, you're going to be in
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wrestling. Oh, wow.
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So now you're bringing in the world to
it.
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It was a roll of the dice by Vince
McMahon.
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I mean, this was, he's trying to take
over the world at this point. He
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his home. He got everything into this.
This had to be a success.
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The whole world knows about this, man.
Hulk Hogan and Mr. T. The dream team,
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man. The dream team.
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Check this out, dude.
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Check that out. Check that out.
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I have been brought up old, old school.
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If you bring me somebody outside our
business, I'm going to eat his lunch.
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The children of America today must be
sick to look at someone.
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Mr. T ain't no powder puff, you have to
understand, you know. But I guess his
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ego, you know, would say, okay, we can't
let this come in. I guess that's why he
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had sour grapes going around.
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Roddy was very protective of the
business.
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When it came to wrestling, he was a very
serious guy and took his job very
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serious, and that's why he was as good
as he was.
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So it was kind of left to Hulk Hogan to
kind of be the go -between between Roddy
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Piper and Mr.
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T allowing this high -stakes story.
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To be told.
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The wrestlers at the time didn't have
the mindset to understand how big this
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going to be. And my focus was on trying
to keep this thing together.
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Please don't run this guy off. Please
don't hurt him.
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I'll tell you, you mess with me, D, I'll
put an X on your name, brother.
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The World Wrestling Federation presents
the wrestling extravaganza of all time,
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WrestleMania.
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These were the two guys that hooked me
on this thing, and now they're each
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other's greatest rival.
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And now they're the pieces to putting
this thing on a national map.
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Everything was on the line that night at
WrestleMania.
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I knew that Vince had given everything
he had. His whole life was betting on
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that one night, and I knew we better put
on the best show we could and tear the
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roof off the garden.
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I'm pumped up. I'm pumped up.
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WrestleMania, the greatest in wrestling
history, is taking place right now.
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Right now.
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With the inception of WrestleMania I, it
wasn't just wrestling fans that were
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watching. It was people that watched MTV
bring those two worlds together, and it
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feels even cooler and more magnified
than ever before. And that really
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in a whole different demographic to WWE.
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When you get in the garden, brother,
it's like the Roman Coliseum for
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And I've been there a million times
already.
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But for WrestleMania, whoa, goosebumps
as big as pimples all over my arms. What
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is going on in here?
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The people knew the wrestling business
was changing that night. That was the
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highest vibration I've ever felt.
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In the garden, it's just so packed. I
mean, God, what a show.
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It all hinges on Hulk Hogan and Roddy
Piper. And yeah, Cindy, Mr.
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T. But without those two, quite possibly
an entirely different conversation
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we're having. Or maybe we're not having
this conversation.
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I came up with the ring and I pointed
right at him as soon as I got in there.
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knew he was lit. I knew he was ready.
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So we're going to have a war tonight,
boys.
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Look at the look on Piper's face.
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The fans are chanting, T, T, T, and
they're going nose to nose. Look at nose
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nose. Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper, nose
to nose in the center of the ring.
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Oh, slap across the face, and a return
slap by Mr. T.
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Look at this, they're exchanging slaps.
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Oh, Piper now goes behind quickly, takes
him down to the canvas.
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I was still trying to protect Mr.
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T so that Orndorff and Piper wouldn't
break him in half.
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They were really having a problem with
each other. It was like, and I'm here in
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the middle trying to be like, you know,
the mother goose between all these guys.
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I'm like, oh, my God, I was going to
have a nervous breakdown.
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Here comes the hook, and all four of
them are going at it in the corner, and
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it's turned out already, and we're
getting chaos five minutes into the
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Geno Monsoon.
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Piper giving us a sign for timeout here.
They're headed for the dressing room,
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Jess. I don't believe it. Al Corbin
saying no way to referee Pat Patterson.
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says get him back in the ring, and here
they come.
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Piper and Mr. Wonderful, Paul Orndorff.
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Piper, he wasn't overpowered with
muscles and all that stuff, but he knew
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game. He could wrestle, and he could be
tough.
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He was tough.
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The lookout.
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Without a great antagonist, your
protagonist means nothing.
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And if Hulk didn't have Roddy Piper to
play off of, I don't know how big it
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would have been.
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This place is sold out. It's the hottest
ticket in town. We've got closed
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circuit television, mainstream media
everywhere.
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The reason they came to WrestleMania was
to see me get my butt kicked.
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It was crazy.
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One of the unique things about this
rivalry is the way Piper would lose.
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He didn't want to. The protection of his
character was very, very important to
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the man.
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Of course, now this gives privilege for
Piper to now blame Orton for the loss.
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It's never Piper's fault. No, it's never
Piper's fault. It's never Piper's
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fault.
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And the winners of the main event, Pop
Hogan and Mr.
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T.
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And look at the champ, the greatest
representation in the world of
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wrestling, Jeff Hulk Hogan.
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Roddy was a guy that was pretty strong
on his positions in the sense that he
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wasn't going to just lay down for Hogan.
He protected himself.
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I'd hit him with a cast to get somebody
to stay down.
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A premier event like WrestleMania, you
want a clean winner and loser.
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Everybody, Madison Square Garden, all
the way around the world, now you know
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what it's all about, brother.
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But, you know, I'm not a bad guy, okay?
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Don't be judging me here.
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It's a tough business.
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How do you stay on top?
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He's the man that never got pinned.
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I think because we didn't have an
outcome. It was detrimental to us really
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moving forward.
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So many disqualifications, so many
countouts. I mean, I think the fans get
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of seeing that.
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Where do you go from there?
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The wrestling extravaganza of all time,
WrestleMania.
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As Piper was about to lower the book
now.
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Coming off of WrestleMania, the rivalry
between Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper kind
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of simmered down.
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Without Hulk Hogan ever beating Piper by
pinfall or submission, which left so
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much on the table for fans.
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All in all.
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WrestleMania was a perfect springboard
for what we needed to launch the WWE
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the stratosphere.
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We created a huge amount of positive
momentum.
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It parlayed into different TV deals and
expanding the horizons beyond anywhere
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we'd been.
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But Vince and myself and the whole WWE,
we were all sent in different
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directions. And Vince was moving to
younger wrestlers at the time.
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And it just seemed like the perfect time
for us to mutually part ways because I
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just wasn't finished yet. So it made
sense to dig in and try to reinvent
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WCW, they were basically the number two
company, not even in the same universe
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as the WWE.
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Figured if, you know, there were so many
good wrestlers there.
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And if I went to work there, I saw huge
potential.
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The deal was easy.
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It was a good fit for him and it was a
good fit for us because we needed that
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kind of flagship character to let
everybody know that we were really
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about being a competitor in the space.
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On their feet, the Hulkamaniacs!
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His first match in WCW!
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The first.
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Night on a pay -per -view and won the
belt from Ric Flair.
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You know, Shaq was a ringside.
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Right away, kind of like made everybody
take a double. Whoa, what's going on
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over here?
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This guy that every night would pose.
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You had the people that loved Hulk.
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Hulk Hogan! Oh, man, this is going to be
good. Yes, sir.
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But all of a sudden, the act was getting
a little stale.
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I kept going to the buildings.
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I didn't feel that same energy, you
know, when Hulk and Manny was on track.
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I had discussions with Eric Bischoff
about me turning into a bad guy.
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I had seen Scott come in. I'd seen Kevin
come in.
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I'd seen the edge they put on the bad
guy.
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If I can not be Hulk Hogan, but if I can
do this thing as Hollywood Hulk Hogan,
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you know, and come in with a really
nasty edge on, I'll do it.
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Hulk Hogan has betrayed WCW.
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You can call this the New World Order of
Wrestling, brother.
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All the stuff that was thrown in the
ring, the trash, the bottles, we have
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pissed some people off. And I knew that
we were off and running.
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The following announcement has been paid
for by the New World Order.
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There's a new era of wrestling, and man,
for him to flip the switch like that
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and go bad guy, who would have thought
the red and yellow would go black?
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Everybody was getting pumped. Everybody
was being disrespected.
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Is there any question now?
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What is the most powerful organization
in professional wrestling?
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While Hogan was becoming the new face of
WCW, Piper continued to work for WWE
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both in and out of the ring.
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Rowdy, Rowdy Piper!
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Rowdy, Rowdy Piper! One of the all -time
greats here in the World Wrestling
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Federation!
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I'm the reason Hogan's got no hair. I
pulled it all out.
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I don't retreat, and I don't surrender.
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But there was definitely some unfinished
business between them.
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We still needed a nemesis, and it was
time to give WCW a shot in the arm.
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I'm taking over the WCW.
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Everybody that gets in the ring with the
NWO or
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan is going down.
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Hey.
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What is that? What's this all about?
What's this music?
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You know, I'll give credit where
credit's due with Hogan. And when they
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those bagpipes, Hogan's eyes got pretty
big and white.
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You know, Eric told me, you know, we had
a chance to bring Piper in. What do you
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think? I said, well, we haven't had our
last dance.
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The business wasn't finished for Hogan
and Piper.
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I'm the only guy that Hogan didn't
conquer.
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That's one man who had Pogan, Hogan.
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He was still part of Roddy, Roddy Piper.
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Over 10 years removed from WrestleMania,
Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan finally
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met again to resolve unfinished
business.
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Why don't you shut up for a second?
That's my turn.
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I'm the only guy who has never been able
to...
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Piper never lost legitimately. He never
got pinned. It was either always a
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disqualification or a count out.
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Now that I look in your eyes, maybe we
need to have a war that didn't settle
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score.
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Piper and WCW, that's going to be so
many more eyes.
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This thing could get really, really big.
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It just goes to show you how smart a guy
like Hogan is to say, man, let me just
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go back to the drawing board.
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We kind of reverse roles at this point
in history where Al Piper was the good
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guy and I was the evil guy.
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Hogan can't beat Piper by himself. He's
got to have three or four people hurt
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Piper. It added another dimension to the
Piper character because now he was
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against insurmountable odds.
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You know something, Piper?
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You're a loser fighting a losing battle.
435
00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:18,830
And Roddy being Roddy, he was such a
phenomenal performer.
436
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:21,830
He knew what that history meant to those
fans.
437
00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:24,790
Come on, get out here, Hogan.
438
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:26,190
Let's get it done.
439
00:30:26,590 --> 00:30:31,470
I'm going for the fight of the century
and who the icon is.
440
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:36,730
When you were my equal 10 years ago, you
couldn't get it done.
441
00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:44,350
There it is. Let me tell you, Piper, now
that I've signed that contract, you, my
442
00:30:44,350 --> 00:30:45,350
friend,
443
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,840
Are not going to have a leg to stand on.
444
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,300
Yeah, yeah.
445
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
The NWO isn't going to leave him alone.
446
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,820
Piper, I'm going to break you in half,
you piece of crap.
447
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,760
And he'll fight the whole NWO.
448
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:05,800
There's never any question about that.
449
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000
If that's the best you can do, you're in
trouble.
450
00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:12,220
Because there's no retreat, no
surrender.
451
00:31:13,420 --> 00:31:16,780
Wherever you are watching our telecast,
we're glad you're with us for this
452
00:31:16,780 --> 00:31:17,780
history -making event.
453
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,740
This place is going to erupt.
454
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:32,100
Rowdy Roddy Piper is one man Hogan's
never beat, so let's just hook up our
455
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,140
seatbelts and see if he beats him
tonight.
456
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,380
These were just two old, great legends
that you just want to see.
457
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,700
The entire arena.
458
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,340
was chanting my name.
459
00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:46,860
Holy cow, you couldn't hear yourself.
460
00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:51,520
People standing with NWO t -shirts on,
chanting Roddy's name.
461
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,400
The fact that you could have a rivalry
between Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan in
462
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,400
80s and have it again in the 90s speaks
to their respective talents and their
463
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,800
relationship with the audience.
464
00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:08,980
The bell sounded means this thing is on.
465
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:18,080
It was a test, you know, to stand your
ground with Roddy because, you know, he
466
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,080
wasn't backing up.
467
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,120
It made for a good evening of fun
-filled entertainment for me whenever I
468
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,120
the wrestling.
469
00:32:56,140 --> 00:33:02,240
After all these years of Hulk Hogan
being the top dog in the industry, it
470
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,060
striking to realize when the two met and
a definitive victor was finally
471
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:11,640
announced, it was Piper who came out on
top.
472
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:16,440
We made progress, you know, in WCW with
the storylines.
473
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,960
So with the non -title victory, Piper
earns a shot at Super Bowl.
474
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,760
for the WCW championship.
475
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:30,760
Whatever their personal feelings are,
whatever their baggage is, whatever
476
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:37,240
histories are, whatever issues there
were, once they step inside of the ring,
477
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:38,840
they put all that to the side.
478
00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:41,540
This is for the title! Here you go,
baby!
479
00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:45,840
Bell sounds, and Hogan is walking away.
480
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:48,520
There he is!
481
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,800
There it goes!
482
00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:56,640
at the end of that match with Piper,
fans from 20 to 25 years ago could argue
483
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120
about who was the greatest wrestler, who
was going to win.
484
00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:01,400
Hogan is in a fight of his life.
485
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,180
It's an art. It's an art to fighting.
486
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:06,840
It's like playing chess.
487
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,080
Hey, that's some more NWO.
488
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:12,560
Having a deal on all of them, baby.
489
00:34:14,739 --> 00:34:17,920
Did the best I could to be the coward,
be the bad guy.
490
00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:24,630
Look at this. Turn it around now. It got
Piper wheeling.
491
00:34:28,870 --> 00:34:32,550
You get a gut feeling, you know, when
you're out there. The fans get tired of
492
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:34,949
seeing it. Count out after count out
after this full application.
493
00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:41,590
Savage is putting something in Hogan's
hand. He put something in Hogan's hand.
494
00:34:44,889 --> 00:34:48,190
What happened here? What the hell's
going on? One, two.
495
00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,220
Twelve years in the making for Hulk
Hogan to get this clean victory over
496
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:03,320
Rowdy Piper, and it still isn't clean.
497
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:08,700
He gets some brass knuckles, and that's
how he gets the victory.
498
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,140
Of course, Piper protects his character
at all costs.
499
00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:15,540
That was Piper.
500
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,700
Piper definitely was unique.
501
00:35:18,090 --> 00:35:21,510
And that fact, as far as taking care of
his character, making sure he was
502
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:26,450
protected at all times, making sure that
he stayed at that same level or even
503
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:30,970
bigger than a Hulk Hogan, that's what
Piper was all about.
504
00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:36,930
I thought when Roddy came in, I thought,
this is going to be so hard to manage
505
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:42,070
these two because I've heard all the war
stories. But I never got the sense that
506
00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:43,350
there was anything but respect.
507
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:47,430
Partly because Roddy had matured.
508
00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:53,310
I think coming to WCW was, for the most
part, the end of his run.
509
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:57,570
Thinking, okay, this has been my last
ride. I want to go out and have fun.
510
00:35:59,110 --> 00:36:01,810
I think as you get older, you get wiser.
511
00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:06,670
Piper realized that Huckster was never
there to really take his spot.
512
00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:10,310
And I think Huck realized Piper was not
there to take his spot.
513
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:17,210
Yes, I admit, you're just as big a
superstar as I am.
514
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000
The drama that happens, it all
dissipates.
515
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,120
I think those guys had a mega amount of
respect for each other, but they both
516
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520
wanted to be the man.
517
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:38,920
This didn't end the rivalry, because I
honestly think the rivalry would still
518
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,180
going on if Piper was still with us.
519
00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:43,440
But it ended that story.
520
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:47,960
After WCW ceased to be,
521
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:51,960
Hulk Hogan ended up returning to the
WWE.
522
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:58,720
And once he put that red and yellow back
on, all the Hulkamaniacs were right
523
00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:59,780
back there with him.
524
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:06,360
There's an issue between you and me,
McMahon, and it goes longer than 20
525
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:07,420
brother.
526
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:13,240
We get one more little shot of him at
WrestleMania 19 when Hogan goes back to
527
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,240
the WWE.
528
00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:18,630
And Vince is a very mean Vince McMahon
at this point.
529
00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:21,090
I created Hulkamania.
530
00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,070
And by God, at WrestleMania, I'm going
to kill it.
531
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:31,790
They're going to have a match. The head
of the company is going to wrestle the
532
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:33,450
man who helped build the company.
533
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,930
It is 20 years in the making. Hulkman
Hogan.
534
00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:43,530
McMahon is down.
535
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Hogan is down.
536
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,460
What the hell is he doing here?
537
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,040
That's Roddy, Roddy Piper.
538
00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:54,580
No freaking way.
539
00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:56,400
Roddy Piper is here.
540
00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:58,420
What the hell is going on here?
541
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,860
All you got to do is walk in a trench
coat and take it off and they go, ow.
542
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,280
That's how much credibility.
543
00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:13,590
The entire situation has.
544
00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:16,950
Roddy Piper flooring Hogan.
545
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:24,650
Piper gets a pipe and just goes to town
on Hulk Hogan. And you feel as
546
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:29,570
a fan as if there was a little bit more
than just story trying to be told in
547
00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:30,570
that moment.
548
00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:37,410
There's two guys out there that'll do
anything, anything to keep this art form
549
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:39,110
alive. And we're so much alike.
550
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:40,410
It's scary.
551
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:45,660
You know, two old guys always want to
get over on each other. I mean, you put
552
00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:48,260
Jordan and Bird out there, I don't care
what.
553
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:51,860
One of them is going to try to get over
on the other one. And I think that's
554
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:53,320
what it is with Piper and Hogan.
555
00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:01,400
Over the years, it felt like a bond
formed between these two legends, and I
556
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,040
think that was most evident in 2005 when
they were both inducted into the Hall
557
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040
of Fame.
558
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920
And I got to admit, I was jealous of
Hogan.
559
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,920
Well, I had nothing to do with the hair.
560
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,400
My name is Rowdy Roddy Piper, and you
ain't seen nothing yet.
561
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:26,240
The one, the only, the incredible Hulk
Hogan!
562
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,120
Roddy Piper and I, we had a great time
in this business.
563
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:39,180
And what you gonna do, brothers, when
the WWE runs wild on you?
564
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,000
I gotta tell you, I heard you yelping
all over again about you and Mr. T, how
565
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,300
you beat us at WrestleMania.
566
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,440
He got us! He got us!
567
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,380
Hey, big guy.
568
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,240
Wait a minute.
569
00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,600
Be a man,
570
00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:04,640
Piper. Bury the hatchet.
571
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
My word.
572
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,440
That's a WrestleMania moment.
573
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:28,060
Unfortunately, that sad day did come in
2015 for every wrestling fan in the
574
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:31,640
world when we found out that Roddy Piper
had passed away.
575
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,740
Two days after Piper died, all of a
sudden he gets a voice message. Bing!
576
00:40:38,060 --> 00:40:39,860
I looked at it and I saw it from Piper.
577
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,900
I'm walking with Jesus today, my
brother.
578
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,400
Walking with Jesus.
579
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,420
Loving you and praying for you.
580
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Very strange.
581
00:40:48,350 --> 00:40:49,910
I know there's been delays in Texas.
582
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:53,470
If it's raining here in Florida, the
weather's weird. It may take an hour or
583
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:58,150
to get there. But two days after he
passed to get that, you know,
584
00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:00,930
it's crazy.
585
00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:04,190
I still have it at home.
586
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:13,370
I've always thought, I don't know who
belongs on the Mount Rushmore of great
587
00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:17,270
heels, but I know it starts with Roddy
Piper, and there's no one close.
588
00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:19,450
Who are you supposed to be?
589
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:21,030
Hogan, Mr. Piper.
590
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:22,009
Who's he?
591
00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:25,490
The last time I saw him, he was catching
dogs for the service for the city. Are
592
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:26,249
you the candy?
593
00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:27,470
You got candy in there?
594
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:31,290
The whole world's going to witness this
when you feel the wrath of the officers.
595
00:41:31,870 --> 00:41:34,910
There's two sides of a coin, a heads and
a tails.
596
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:37,470
Piper and Hogan together, unstoppable.
597
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:41,650
If you think of Hogan, you know, don't
you think of Piper?
598
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:46,190
It just was always a natural rivalry
that people could relate to.
599
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:49,990
I am the legend killer.
600
00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:54,950
All of a sudden, this Hulkamania is
going wild all over the place, and he's
601
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:55,950
becoming a legend.
602
00:41:56,490 --> 00:42:02,630
I'm so thankful that those two guys came
together at the same time, and I was
603
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:04,190
watching at the age that I was.
604
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:08,390
I didn't know how the old man could go.
605
00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:10,750
But you hit the bottom, brother.
606
00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:15,390
It'll go down in history. There will
always be a Piper Hogan connection until
607
00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:16,390
the end of time.
608
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,940
Whatever animosity that we may have, I
wouldn't have picked anybody else. I
609
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:24,020
would have said, to heck with that
Hogan. I don't like him.
610
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,480
He's the guy.
611
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:29,740
He's the guy. So I got you. I got you
locked in. Ring the bell.
612
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:31,460
Let's roll.
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