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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,149 --> 00:00:07,330 Now, Piper, it's your turn to feel what Hulkamania feels like coming down heavy 2 00:00:07,330 --> 00:00:08,330 on you, brother. 3 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:13,350 Hulk Hogan was the greatest protagonist you could have, and Roddy Piper was the 4 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:15,370 greatest antagonist you could possibly have. 5 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:21,350 This Hulkamania is going wild all over the place. Piper was the opposite of 6 00:00:21,350 --> 00:00:22,770 Hogan. He was the bad boy. 7 00:00:23,070 --> 00:00:27,450 I had no idea where it was going to go when he was on my screen. 8 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:29,450 Roddy Piper's just gone bananas! 9 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:34,530 There was legitimate heat between me and Piper. I think it was detrimental to us 10 00:00:34,530 --> 00:00:35,530 really moving forward. 11 00:00:36,590 --> 00:00:38,930 Oh, my God, I was going to have a nervous breakdown. 12 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:40,430 It was always a war. 13 00:00:42,330 --> 00:00:44,430 Oh, and a shootout, ladies and gentlemen. 14 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:47,690 But, you know, I'm not a bad guy, okay? 15 00:00:48,390 --> 00:00:50,450 I'm the reason you've got no hair. 16 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:53,170 We haven't had our last dance. 17 00:00:54,250 --> 00:00:58,670 I'm the only guy you have never... 18 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:17,160 When two legends collide, their rivalry stays pinned in our minds forever. 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,980 This is where we break down the legendary stories behind the greatest 20 00:01:22,980 --> 00:01:23,980 of all time. 21 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,220 I'm Freddie Prinze Jr. 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,740 And this is WWE Rivals. 23 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:37,700 You do not throw rocks at a man who's got a machine gun. 24 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:43,360 We're going way back in time on this one. And we're going to the early 80s. 25 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,700 was good guy and bad guy. 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,980 It was a simple story. And it was the birth of a beautiful rivalry. 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:55,720 It was with Hulk Hogan, who everyone believed in. And it was one of the 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,860 heels. Of all time, rowdy, rowdy, Piper. 29 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:03,660 Piper was an icon in the business. 30 00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:06,940 Those two figures, you know, just bigger than life. 31 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,200 They're so different, but both of them had, you know, definitely crossed over 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,720 into mainstream popularity. 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,560 It was the birth of WrestleMania. 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,420 It was the birth of MTV. 35 00:02:17,780 --> 00:02:21,580 It was the birth of pop culture, sort of, as we know it. 36 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:23,880 Everything's on the line. 37 00:02:26,350 --> 00:02:31,510 There was this unwritten sort of rule within the wrestling industry that 38 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:32,890 owned certain territories. 39 00:02:33,210 --> 00:02:37,770 And there was like this gentleman's sort of agreement, I guess, that you didn't 40 00:02:37,770 --> 00:02:39,470 go into the other guy's territory. 41 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:43,550 You could work six months in Florida, six months in California, six months in 42 00:02:43,550 --> 00:02:45,110 Portland, six months in Texas. 43 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:51,650 I wrestled in the AWA for like three years. And I had the Hulkamania thing 44 00:02:51,650 --> 00:02:55,570 figured out. I was selling T -shirts, merchandise, headbands. 45 00:02:56,060 --> 00:03:00,160 Started to Hollywood it up a little bit, really just defining that character and 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,460 really getting it dialed in. 47 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:13,760 When you're on 48 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,420 a roll and when you think positive, sometimes overconfidence can work for 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,040 And I know sooner or later, my time is going to come. 50 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:28,150 In this time frame, as cable TV is coming along, Vince sees that cable TV 51 00:03:28,150 --> 00:03:33,030 coming, and he realizes national expansion in front of the world is 52 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:39,510 One day, we hope to be recognized as the premier sort of sports entertainment in 53 00:03:39,510 --> 00:03:40,249 the world today. 54 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:41,670 He saw advertising. 55 00:03:41,950 --> 00:03:47,250 He saw Hollywood. He saw everything that WWE could be and more. 56 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:49,970 Hello, everyone. Welcome to All -American Wrestling. 57 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:52,690 As soon as Vince had that cable signal. 58 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:56,800 To infinity and beyond, there was nowhere that Vince couldn't go with his 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,720 and what he wanted to do. He now had the vehicle to get there and do what needed 60 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,579 to be done. 61 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:06,040 And because of their nationwide audience, the World Wrestling Federation 62 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,940 been able to create coast -to -coast heroes and villains. 63 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:17,079 My dad recognized that America needed a hero they could believe in. And he 64 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,519 took one look at Hulk Hogan. 65 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,580 and knew that that was the hero that needed to be the beacon for fans all 66 00:04:25,580 --> 00:04:26,399 the world. 67 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,180 And the next thing I knew, Vince McMahon came to my house, and he pretty much 68 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:36,900 laid his vision out of the WWE becoming an international phenomenon, you know, 69 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:38,600 taking over the whole world of the WWE. 70 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:42,180 The recognized symbol of excellence in sports entertainment. 71 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,700 It took me about two seconds to say, I'm in. 72 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,740 When I came to work for the WWE and for the McMahons, I had no idea what kind of 73 00:05:14,740 --> 00:05:15,760 momentum we were going to get. 74 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,280 Vince wanted Hulk and made him run wild. 75 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:19,960 And the rest is history. 76 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:43,590 I feel the energy Hulkamania is running worldwide, and I felt everyone standing 77 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:45,310 behind me all the way, and it felt great. 78 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:51,490 Hulk Hogan, for me, was a comic book come to life. I couldn't fully grasp it. 79 00:05:51,530 --> 00:05:55,610 You know, from my little kid brain, it was just everything awesome. 80 00:05:59,030 --> 00:06:02,370 I've been training and praying to my parents to eat my vitamins, and 81 00:06:02,370 --> 00:06:03,370 I go, man. 82 00:06:03,610 --> 00:06:06,550 The people are training in the parking lots, posing in the gym. 83 00:06:06,990 --> 00:06:10,510 Hulkamaniacs running wild all over the world. And every time I step in the 84 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:13,790 it's like there's a thousand people stepping in there with me. A thousand 85 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:14,790 Hulkamaniacs. 86 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:17,590 Have a nice day. 87 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:19,050 Go yourself. 88 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:20,910 Give me the microphone and get out of my way. 89 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:28,170 From Glasgow, Scotland, weighing 232 pounds, Rowdy. 90 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,240 Roddy Piper first made a name for himself outside of the WWE in the Mid 91 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,040 -Atlantic and Portland territories. 92 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:48,200 But right around 1984, Vince McMahon realized that Roddy Piper was the guy 93 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,740 he wanted to be his main antagonist. 94 00:06:52,060 --> 00:06:56,800 This week, you have the opportunity of seeing someone, a very, very special 95 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,700 guest, the most intelligent man that I have ever met in my entire life. 96 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:04,850 A man who takes things into his own hands. A man who gets things done. 97 00:07:04,850 --> 00:07:07,530 and gentlemen, I would like to introduce to you at this time. 98 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:14,830 Piper was the opposite of Hulk Hogan. He was the bad boy. 99 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:17,070 Ladies! 100 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:21,450 No, we're in New York, aren't we? There ain't none of those here. 101 00:07:22,630 --> 00:07:24,050 Let me see if I can get this straight. 102 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:26,370 People! 103 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:37,270 To me, Roddy felt dangerous, and that's why I couldn't take my eyes off him. I 104 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:39,930 had no idea where it was going to go when he was on my screen. 105 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:45,430 And there was something really, really exciting and also scary about that. 106 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:53,810 Hulk was red, white, and blue and doing everything right, and Roddy Piper was 107 00:07:53,810 --> 00:07:59,210 this cynical, just really nasty, evil man that despised everything that Hulk 108 00:07:59,210 --> 00:08:00,210 Hogan stood for. 109 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,440 All of a sudden, this Hulkamania is going wild all over the place, and he's 110 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,440 becoming a legend. 111 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,100 There was legitimate heat between me and Piper. 112 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,380 Well, you know something, Piper? I didn't know how low a man could go, but 113 00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:13,560 you've hit the bottom, brother. 114 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,220 Piper wanted the Hulk Hogan spot. 115 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:20,240 That's the nature of this business, is to be the number one guy and to be the 116 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,360 champ. And it was very verbal that, you know, Piper didn't like me. I mean, 117 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:27,380 really didn't like me. 118 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:29,460 Wrestling was approaching. 119 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,240 fever pitch at that time. Piper and Hogan were the two hottest wrestlers in 120 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,240 WWE. 121 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Everywhere you go, everybody is talking about Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper. 122 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,120 And that's when MTV got in it. 123 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:53,540 In 1984, some of the WWE 124 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:56,780 superstars started appearing on MTV. 125 00:08:57,660 --> 00:09:01,360 While at the same time, some of the heaviest hitters in the music industry 126 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,320 started appearing on WWE shows. 127 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:11,760 I have a gold and platinum record to give to the World Wrestling Federation 128 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,760 the fans. 129 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Cindy Lauper showing her appreciation in presenting a gold and platinum record 130 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,960 to the World Wrestling Federation. 131 00:09:22,340 --> 00:09:26,580 Roddy Piper at the time, his character was very anti -rock and roll. 132 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,380 you know, anti -fun. 133 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,700 I want to present you with this. 134 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Oh, look out! 135 00:09:35,140 --> 00:09:37,240 Captain Lou O 'Battle, Clover! 136 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:41,220 Look it, Roddy Piper's just gone bananas! 137 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,460 David Wong trying to come to the rescue, but he's no match! 138 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,520 Oh, he pound drives it right down into the canvas. 139 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:51,840 Roddy Piper's gone crazy here! 140 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,420 I have pictures. 141 00:09:55,710 --> 00:09:59,410 The female vocalist of the year, Cyndi Lauper in the head. 142 00:09:59,810 --> 00:10:01,590 I tortured Hogan. 143 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:07,390 The future of professional wrestling, the future of rock and roll is down the 144 00:10:07,390 --> 00:10:08,390 toilet. 145 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:14,130 Vince was always looking for outside things to help bring new eyes, and MTV 146 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:19,250 one of them. And we get the rockin' wrestling, which will never be used 147 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:22,050 that term, but it was so perfect for the 80s. 148 00:10:22,460 --> 00:10:24,680 The Rockin' Wrestling Connection was 149 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:33,380 a 150 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:38,440 marketing tool utilized by WWE and MTV to promote each other's stars. 151 00:10:39,580 --> 00:10:44,980 You're seeing your favorite wrestlers on TV, and you're seeing them with these 152 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:47,260 rock stars, and you're seeing them with Cyndi Lauper. 153 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:50,660 All of a sudden, this became mainstream popular. 154 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:54,470 Hulk is going to put you down, man. 155 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:58,210 He's going to put you down so low, you're going to have to look up to see a 156 00:10:58,210 --> 00:11:03,570 skirt. MTV was so invested in the rock and wrestling connection that they put 157 00:11:03,570 --> 00:11:05,570 together their own WWE event. 158 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:10,090 It was the show that featured the first match between Hulk Hogan and Roddy 159 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:14,510 Piper. Two proud men with such different viewpoints, backgrounds. 160 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:19,470 It seems written in the stars that ultimately these two men would clash 161 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:26,060 This was the inception point. The psychology of these two men and the 162 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:28,240 tell their story all started at this moment. 163 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,580 Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, the war to settle the score. 164 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:37,460 We've talked about it. The Rocket Wrestling Connection, the hottest ticket 165 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:43,580 town, the biggest and the best. And tonight on MTV, live, ladies and 166 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,900 Hulk Hogan with the conference against challenger Ronnie Roddy Piper. 167 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:11,970 The war to settle the score, it was a whole different electricity. 168 00:12:14,570 --> 00:12:21,570 But there was no teamwork whatsoever because the plan was to take over the 169 00:12:21,570 --> 00:12:22,570 world with Hogan. 170 00:12:22,890 --> 00:12:26,030 In the plan, you forgot that it takes two tangles. 171 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:33,130 That's when things really elevated as far as animosity. 172 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:35,530 Whenever I went in there against Piper. 173 00:12:36,810 --> 00:12:37,990 It was always a war. 174 00:12:38,910 --> 00:12:42,330 I used to beat the shit out of him, and he'd give it right back to me. 175 00:12:43,010 --> 00:12:44,730 You had to take what you could get in there. 176 00:12:46,070 --> 00:12:48,170 Oh, what a shootout, ladies and gentlemen. 177 00:12:48,670 --> 00:12:55,370 I cannot believe it. The war to settle the score, I just 178 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:58,090 remember, like, it feeling like chaos. 179 00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:02,370 And it really felt like New York was going to come over that barricade at any 180 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:03,370 second. 181 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Oh, please. 182 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:13,260 Oh, 183 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:15,140 you've got to be kidding me. 184 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Please. 185 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:19,260 Here comes Mr. 186 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:20,500 T, ladies and gentlemen. 187 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:23,480 When I first jumped in the ring, it was wild. 188 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,740 That's the only thing I can say. It was just wild. 189 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,900 Look at these two. Piper doesn't know what to do. 190 00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:36,440 Hogan getting a clean pinfall or submission would have been the most 191 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,840 way to conclude the match. 192 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,500 But unfortunately, that didn't happen. 193 00:13:41,140 --> 00:13:44,680 There was still that old school mentality to protect myself. 194 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Back then, he didn't want to put me over. And that's why the finish was 195 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,920 up. 196 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:57,320 The winner of this bout, as a result of a disqualification, 197 00:13:57,660 --> 00:14:00,120 Hulk Hogan! 198 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:06,060 Typically, a disqualification in a match in the form of storytelling. 199 00:14:06,810 --> 00:14:12,150 leaves a very unclear, unsatisfying closure to that story. 200 00:14:13,510 --> 00:14:15,810 Hogan was the face of business. 201 00:14:16,050 --> 00:14:18,190 And I agree, he should have been. 202 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:21,930 But everybody was butting heads. 203 00:14:22,450 --> 00:14:26,090 The only way this guy holds his title is he has this stupid guy with some 204 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:29,130 ridiculous haircut. All of a sudden, all these people are flooding the ring. If 205 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:33,410 you ain't got enough guts to fight me one -on -one, mister, then take a hike 206 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:34,450 leave the title with me. 207 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,140 Now we've got MTV on our side. 208 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:40,880 New demo, new kids, new audience, you know, plugged in. 209 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:46,960 It was just like throwing big tanks of gas on the fire. We knew once MTV got on 210 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,660 board, this thing was going to be a monster. 211 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:50,640 Anytime you need me, I'll be there, brother. 212 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:57,180 You're my man. I think you're the greatest. It was great to see Mr. T come 213 00:14:57,180 --> 00:14:58,940 there and help the Hulk. I mean, it was incredible. 214 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,000 In the mid-'80s, Mr. 215 00:15:02,220 --> 00:15:08,860 T was a huge star, celebrity, actor, household name. And so the WWE 216 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:13,600 brought him in to elevate the Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper rivalry. 217 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:18,580 That's why the rock and wrestling connection was so cool, because it was 218 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:22,800 blend of what was hot. It was hot. Yeah. That was the beginning of Hollywood. 219 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,020 transforming over to professional wrestling, opposed to professional 220 00:15:28,020 --> 00:15:29,620 wanting to, you know, be Hollywood. 221 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,880 That brings us to WrestleMania number one, which was a spectacle, to say the 222 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,400 least. The biggest wrestling extravaganza of all time. 223 00:15:40,830 --> 00:15:42,370 That big tag team match. 224 00:15:42,610 --> 00:15:47,910 Mr. Controversy, Rowdy Roddy Piper, and Mr. Wonderful, Paul Orndorff, with ace 225 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:51,790 cowboy Bob Orton in their corner, to meet World Wrestling Federation 226 00:15:51,790 --> 00:15:53,570 champ, Paul Kogan, his partner, Mr. 227 00:15:53,790 --> 00:15:54,790 T. 228 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,780 Vince being the pioneer that he is, you say, wow, we're going to broaden and 229 00:15:58,780 --> 00:16:02,860 bring it to the world. So you got Sidney Lauper there. You got the MTV crowd. 230 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,140 You got Mr. T from the A -Team. 231 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,420 That audience say, hey, now, people say, wow, Mr. T, you're going to be in 232 00:16:08,420 --> 00:16:09,620 wrestling. Oh, wow. 233 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,080 So now you're bringing in the world to it. 234 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:14,200 It was a roll of the dice by Vince McMahon. 235 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,940 I mean, this was, he's trying to take over the world at this point. He 236 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:21,240 his home. He got everything into this. This had to be a success. 237 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,680 The whole world knows about this, man. Hulk Hogan and Mr. T. The dream team, 238 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:27,820 man. The dream team. 239 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:29,440 Check this out, dude. 240 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,480 Check that out. Check that out. 241 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:37,660 I have been brought up old, old school. 242 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:42,640 If you bring me somebody outside our business, I'm going to eat his lunch. 243 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,840 The children of America today must be sick to look at someone. 244 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,620 Mr. T ain't no powder puff, you have to understand, you know. But I guess his 245 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:57,240 ego, you know, would say, okay, we can't let this come in. I guess that's why he 246 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,600 had sour grapes going around. 247 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,140 Roddy was very protective of the business. 248 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:05,740 When it came to wrestling, he was a very serious guy and took his job very 249 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:07,599 serious, and that's why he was as good as he was. 250 00:17:08,339 --> 00:17:13,760 So it was kind of left to Hulk Hogan to kind of be the go -between between Roddy 251 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,759 Piper and Mr. 252 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,300 T allowing this high -stakes story. 253 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:20,020 To be told. 254 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:24,800 The wrestlers at the time didn't have the mindset to understand how big this 255 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 going to be. And my focus was on trying to keep this thing together. 256 00:17:28,220 --> 00:17:30,700 Please don't run this guy off. Please don't hurt him. 257 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,900 I'll tell you, you mess with me, D, I'll put an X on your name, brother. 258 00:17:36,820 --> 00:17:42,080 The World Wrestling Federation presents the wrestling extravaganza of all time, 259 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,200 WrestleMania. 260 00:17:45,740 --> 00:17:48,700 These were the two guys that hooked me on this thing, and now they're each 261 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:50,040 other's greatest rival. 262 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,520 And now they're the pieces to putting this thing on a national map. 263 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,600 Everything was on the line that night at WrestleMania. 264 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,080 I knew that Vince had given everything he had. His whole life was betting on 265 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,280 that one night, and I knew we better put on the best show we could and tear the 266 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,280 roof off the garden. 267 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,600 I'm pumped up. I'm pumped up. 268 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,520 WrestleMania, the greatest in wrestling history, is taking place right now. 269 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:27,660 Right now. 270 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,520 With the inception of WrestleMania I, it wasn't just wrestling fans that were 271 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,420 watching. It was people that watched MTV bring those two worlds together, and it 272 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:45,860 feels even cooler and more magnified than ever before. And that really 273 00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:47,720 in a whole different demographic to WWE. 274 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,560 When you get in the garden, brother, it's like the Roman Coliseum for 275 00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:55,720 And I've been there a million times already. 276 00:18:56,120 --> 00:19:02,060 But for WrestleMania, whoa, goosebumps as big as pimples all over my arms. What 277 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:03,280 is going on in here? 278 00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:09,100 The people knew the wrestling business was changing that night. That was the 279 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:10,860 highest vibration I've ever felt. 280 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,120 In the garden, it's just so packed. I mean, God, what a show. 281 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:22,750 It all hinges on Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper. And yeah, Cindy, Mr. 282 00:19:22,990 --> 00:19:28,450 T. But without those two, quite possibly an entirely different conversation 283 00:19:28,450 --> 00:19:31,110 we're having. Or maybe we're not having this conversation. 284 00:19:33,010 --> 00:19:37,370 I came up with the ring and I pointed right at him as soon as I got in there. 285 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:39,070 knew he was lit. I knew he was ready. 286 00:19:39,770 --> 00:19:41,230 So we're going to have a war tonight, boys. 287 00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:43,890 Look at the look on Piper's face. 288 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,280 The fans are chanting, T, T, T, and they're going nose to nose. Look at nose 289 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,640 nose. Mr. T and Rowdy Roddy Piper, nose to nose in the center of the ring. 290 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:58,620 Oh, slap across the face, and a return slap by Mr. T. 291 00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:02,180 Look at this, they're exchanging slaps. 292 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,420 Oh, Piper now goes behind quickly, takes him down to the canvas. 293 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,080 I was still trying to protect Mr. 294 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,640 T so that Orndorff and Piper wouldn't break him in half. 295 00:20:13,230 --> 00:20:16,410 They were really having a problem with each other. It was like, and I'm here in 296 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:20,030 the middle trying to be like, you know, the mother goose between all these guys. 297 00:20:20,050 --> 00:20:22,370 I'm like, oh, my God, I was going to have a nervous breakdown. 298 00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:26,870 Here comes the hook, and all four of them are going at it in the corner, and 299 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:30,990 it's turned out already, and we're getting chaos five minutes into the 300 00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:32,090 Geno Monsoon. 301 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,020 Piper giving us a sign for timeout here. They're headed for the dressing room, 302 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,060 Jess. I don't believe it. Al Corbin saying no way to referee Pat Patterson. 303 00:20:41,060 --> 00:20:42,800 says get him back in the ring, and here they come. 304 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,940 Piper and Mr. Wonderful, Paul Orndorff. 305 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,180 Piper, he wasn't overpowered with muscles and all that stuff, but he knew 306 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:54,000 game. He could wrestle, and he could be tough. 307 00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:55,400 He was tough. 308 00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:57,340 The lookout. 309 00:20:57,830 --> 00:21:01,150 Without a great antagonist, your protagonist means nothing. 310 00:21:01,370 --> 00:21:05,750 And if Hulk didn't have Roddy Piper to play off of, I don't know how big it 311 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:06,750 would have been. 312 00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:10,970 This place is sold out. It's the hottest ticket in town. We've got closed 313 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:14,090 circuit television, mainstream media everywhere. 314 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:20,410 The reason they came to WrestleMania was to see me get my butt kicked. 315 00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:21,850 It was crazy. 316 00:21:53,299 --> 00:21:58,790 One of the unique things about this rivalry is the way Piper would lose. 317 00:21:59,810 --> 00:22:05,170 He didn't want to. The protection of his character was very, very important to 318 00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:05,769 the man. 319 00:22:05,770 --> 00:22:12,390 Of course, now this gives privilege for Piper to now blame Orton for the loss. 320 00:22:12,610 --> 00:22:16,650 It's never Piper's fault. No, it's never Piper's fault. It's never Piper's 321 00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:17,650 fault. 322 00:22:18,190 --> 00:22:22,290 And the winners of the main event, Pop Hogan and Mr. 323 00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:23,550 T. 324 00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:30,470 And look at the champ, the greatest representation in the world of 325 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:33,170 wrestling, Jeff Hulk Hogan. 326 00:22:34,290 --> 00:22:37,790 Roddy was a guy that was pretty strong on his positions in the sense that he 327 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:41,190 wasn't going to just lay down for Hogan. He protected himself. 328 00:22:42,670 --> 00:22:44,910 I'd hit him with a cast to get somebody to stay down. 329 00:22:45,610 --> 00:22:49,410 A premier event like WrestleMania, you want a clean winner and loser. 330 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:53,810 Everybody, Madison Square Garden, all the way around the world, now you know 331 00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:54,910 what it's all about, brother. 332 00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,940 But, you know, I'm not a bad guy, okay? 333 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Don't be judging me here. 334 00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:02,620 It's a tough business. 335 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,880 How do you stay on top? 336 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,640 He's the man that never got pinned. 337 00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:12,220 I think because we didn't have an outcome. It was detrimental to us really 338 00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:13,139 moving forward. 339 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:18,080 So many disqualifications, so many countouts. I mean, I think the fans get 340 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,079 of seeing that. 341 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,200 Where do you go from there? 342 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:30,760 The wrestling extravaganza of all time, WrestleMania. 343 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:34,360 As Piper was about to lower the book now. 344 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,740 Coming off of WrestleMania, the rivalry between Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper kind 345 00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:43,740 of simmered down. 346 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:50,620 Without Hulk Hogan ever beating Piper by pinfall or submission, which left so 347 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:52,440 much on the table for fans. 348 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:54,640 All in all. 349 00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:59,370 WrestleMania was a perfect springboard for what we needed to launch the WWE 350 00:23:59,370 --> 00:24:00,129 the stratosphere. 351 00:24:00,130 --> 00:24:03,490 We created a huge amount of positive momentum. 352 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:09,290 It parlayed into different TV deals and expanding the horizons beyond anywhere 353 00:24:09,290 --> 00:24:10,290 we'd been. 354 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:20,930 But Vince and myself and the whole WWE, we were all sent in different 355 00:24:20,930 --> 00:24:25,510 directions. And Vince was moving to younger wrestlers at the time. 356 00:24:26,150 --> 00:24:31,690 And it just seemed like the perfect time for us to mutually part ways because I 357 00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:35,810 just wasn't finished yet. So it made sense to dig in and try to reinvent 358 00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:44,770 WCW, they were basically the number two company, not even in the same universe 359 00:24:44,770 --> 00:24:46,250 as the WWE. 360 00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:50,210 Figured if, you know, there were so many good wrestlers there. 361 00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:54,310 And if I went to work there, I saw huge potential. 362 00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:56,850 The deal was easy. 363 00:24:57,810 --> 00:25:01,090 It was a good fit for him and it was a good fit for us because we needed that 364 00:25:01,090 --> 00:25:04,570 kind of flagship character to let everybody know that we were really 365 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:06,630 about being a competitor in the space. 366 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,990 On their feet, the Hulkamaniacs! 367 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:17,290 His first match in WCW! 368 00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:18,930 The first. 369 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,020 Night on a pay -per -view and won the belt from Ric Flair. 370 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,680 You know, Shaq was a ringside. 371 00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:32,320 Right away, kind of like made everybody take a double. Whoa, what's going on 372 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320 over here? 373 00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:37,900 This guy that every night would pose. 374 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,440 You had the people that loved Hulk. 375 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:45,020 Hulk Hogan! Oh, man, this is going to be good. Yes, sir. 376 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440 But all of a sudden, the act was getting a little stale. 377 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:52,240 I kept going to the buildings. 378 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:56,640 I didn't feel that same energy, you know, when Hulk and Manny was on track. 379 00:25:57,220 --> 00:26:01,680 I had discussions with Eric Bischoff about me turning into a bad guy. 380 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,200 I had seen Scott come in. I'd seen Kevin come in. 381 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,620 I'd seen the edge they put on the bad guy. 382 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:22,780 If I can not be Hulk Hogan, but if I can do this thing as Hollywood Hulk Hogan, 383 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,260 you know, and come in with a really nasty edge on, I'll do it. 384 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:31,360 Hulk Hogan has betrayed WCW. 385 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:37,400 You can call this the New World Order of Wrestling, brother. 386 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:43,420 All the stuff that was thrown in the ring, the trash, the bottles, we have 387 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:46,440 pissed some people off. And I knew that we were off and running. 388 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,080 The following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order. 389 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:57,120 There's a new era of wrestling, and man, for him to flip the switch like that 390 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:02,560 and go bad guy, who would have thought the red and yellow would go black? 391 00:27:03,220 --> 00:27:06,740 Everybody was getting pumped. Everybody was being disrespected. 392 00:27:07,180 --> 00:27:08,920 Is there any question now? 393 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,880 What is the most powerful organization in professional wrestling? 394 00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:21,430 While Hogan was becoming the new face of WCW, Piper continued to work for WWE 395 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:23,590 both in and out of the ring. 396 00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:24,970 Rowdy, Rowdy Piper! 397 00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:31,250 Rowdy, Rowdy Piper! One of the all -time greats here in the World Wrestling 398 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:32,250 Federation! 399 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:36,630 I'm the reason Hogan's got no hair. I pulled it all out. 400 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:40,330 I don't retreat, and I don't surrender. 401 00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:44,630 But there was definitely some unfinished business between them. 402 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:51,000 We still needed a nemesis, and it was time to give WCW a shot in the arm. 403 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,160 I'm taking over the WCW. 404 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,960 Everybody that gets in the ring with the NWO or 405 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,800 Hollywood Hulk Hogan is going down. 406 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,100 Hey. 407 00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:14,360 What is that? What's this all about? What's this music? 408 00:28:24,650 --> 00:28:27,930 You know, I'll give credit where credit's due with Hogan. And when they 409 00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:31,650 those bagpipes, Hogan's eyes got pretty big and white. 410 00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:36,450 You know, Eric told me, you know, we had a chance to bring Piper in. What do you 411 00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:39,190 think? I said, well, we haven't had our last dance. 412 00:28:40,350 --> 00:28:44,470 The business wasn't finished for Hogan and Piper. 413 00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:48,950 I'm the only guy that Hogan didn't conquer. 414 00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:53,170 That's one man who had Pogan, Hogan. 415 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:57,580 He was still part of Roddy, Roddy Piper. 416 00:28:57,940 --> 00:29:04,440 Over 10 years removed from WrestleMania, Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan finally 417 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,200 met again to resolve unfinished business. 418 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,780 Why don't you shut up for a second? That's my turn. 419 00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:19,660 I'm the only guy who has never been able to... 420 00:29:21,010 --> 00:29:24,990 Piper never lost legitimately. He never got pinned. It was either always a 421 00:29:24,990 --> 00:29:26,890 disqualification or a count out. 422 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:32,410 Now that I look in your eyes, maybe we need to have a war that didn't settle 423 00:29:32,410 --> 00:29:33,410 score. 424 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:40,290 Piper and WCW, that's going to be so many more eyes. 425 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:43,290 This thing could get really, really big. 426 00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:48,490 It just goes to show you how smart a guy like Hogan is to say, man, let me just 427 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:49,890 go back to the drawing board. 428 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,040 We kind of reverse roles at this point in history where Al Piper was the good 429 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,160 guy and I was the evil guy. 430 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,920 Hogan can't beat Piper by himself. He's got to have three or four people hurt 431 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Piper. It added another dimension to the Piper character because now he was 432 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,640 against insurmountable odds. 433 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:11,480 You know something, Piper? 434 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:15,240 You're a loser fighting a losing battle. 435 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:18,830 And Roddy being Roddy, he was such a phenomenal performer. 436 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:21,830 He knew what that history meant to those fans. 437 00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:24,790 Come on, get out here, Hogan. 438 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:26,190 Let's get it done. 439 00:30:26,590 --> 00:30:31,470 I'm going for the fight of the century and who the icon is. 440 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:36,730 When you were my equal 10 years ago, you couldn't get it done. 441 00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:44,350 There it is. Let me tell you, Piper, now that I've signed that contract, you, my 442 00:30:44,350 --> 00:30:45,350 friend, 443 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,840 Are not going to have a leg to stand on. 444 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,300 Yeah, yeah. 445 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200 The NWO isn't going to leave him alone. 446 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,820 Piper, I'm going to break you in half, you piece of crap. 447 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,760 And he'll fight the whole NWO. 448 00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:05,800 There's never any question about that. 449 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000 If that's the best you can do, you're in trouble. 450 00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:12,220 Because there's no retreat, no surrender. 451 00:31:13,420 --> 00:31:16,780 Wherever you are watching our telecast, we're glad you're with us for this 452 00:31:16,780 --> 00:31:17,780 history -making event. 453 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,740 This place is going to erupt. 454 00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:32,100 Rowdy Roddy Piper is one man Hogan's never beat, so let's just hook up our 455 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,140 seatbelts and see if he beats him tonight. 456 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,380 These were just two old, great legends that you just want to see. 457 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,700 The entire arena. 458 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,340 was chanting my name. 459 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:46,860 Holy cow, you couldn't hear yourself. 460 00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:51,520 People standing with NWO t -shirts on, chanting Roddy's name. 461 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,400 The fact that you could have a rivalry between Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan in 462 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,400 80s and have it again in the 90s speaks to their respective talents and their 463 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,800 relationship with the audience. 464 00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:08,980 The bell sounded means this thing is on. 465 00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:18,080 It was a test, you know, to stand your ground with Roddy because, you know, he 466 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,080 wasn't backing up. 467 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,120 It made for a good evening of fun -filled entertainment for me whenever I 468 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,120 the wrestling. 469 00:32:56,140 --> 00:33:02,240 After all these years of Hulk Hogan being the top dog in the industry, it 470 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,060 striking to realize when the two met and a definitive victor was finally 471 00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:11,640 announced, it was Piper who came out on top. 472 00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:16,440 We made progress, you know, in WCW with the storylines. 473 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,960 So with the non -title victory, Piper earns a shot at Super Bowl. 474 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,760 for the WCW championship. 475 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:30,760 Whatever their personal feelings are, whatever their baggage is, whatever 476 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:37,240 histories are, whatever issues there were, once they step inside of the ring, 477 00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:38,840 they put all that to the side. 478 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:41,540 This is for the title! Here you go, baby! 479 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:45,840 Bell sounds, and Hogan is walking away. 480 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:48,520 There he is! 481 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,800 There it goes! 482 00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:56,640 at the end of that match with Piper, fans from 20 to 25 years ago could argue 483 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120 about who was the greatest wrestler, who was going to win. 484 00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:01,400 Hogan is in a fight of his life. 485 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,180 It's an art. It's an art to fighting. 486 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:06,840 It's like playing chess. 487 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,080 Hey, that's some more NWO. 488 00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:12,560 Having a deal on all of them, baby. 489 00:34:14,739 --> 00:34:17,920 Did the best I could to be the coward, be the bad guy. 490 00:34:21,610 --> 00:34:24,630 Look at this. Turn it around now. It got Piper wheeling. 491 00:34:28,870 --> 00:34:32,550 You get a gut feeling, you know, when you're out there. The fans get tired of 492 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:34,949 seeing it. Count out after count out after this full application. 493 00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:41,590 Savage is putting something in Hogan's hand. He put something in Hogan's hand. 494 00:34:44,889 --> 00:34:48,190 What happened here? What the hell's going on? One, two. 495 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,220 Twelve years in the making for Hulk Hogan to get this clean victory over 496 00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:03,320 Rowdy Piper, and it still isn't clean. 497 00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:08,700 He gets some brass knuckles, and that's how he gets the victory. 498 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,140 Of course, Piper protects his character at all costs. 499 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:15,540 That was Piper. 500 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,700 Piper definitely was unique. 501 00:35:18,090 --> 00:35:21,510 And that fact, as far as taking care of his character, making sure he was 502 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:26,450 protected at all times, making sure that he stayed at that same level or even 503 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:30,970 bigger than a Hulk Hogan, that's what Piper was all about. 504 00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:36,930 I thought when Roddy came in, I thought, this is going to be so hard to manage 505 00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:42,070 these two because I've heard all the war stories. But I never got the sense that 506 00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:43,350 there was anything but respect. 507 00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:47,430 Partly because Roddy had matured. 508 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:53,310 I think coming to WCW was, for the most part, the end of his run. 509 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:57,570 Thinking, okay, this has been my last ride. I want to go out and have fun. 510 00:35:59,110 --> 00:36:01,810 I think as you get older, you get wiser. 511 00:36:02,430 --> 00:36:06,670 Piper realized that Huckster was never there to really take his spot. 512 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:10,310 And I think Huck realized Piper was not there to take his spot. 513 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:17,210 Yes, I admit, you're just as big a superstar as I am. 514 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000 The drama that happens, it all dissipates. 515 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,120 I think those guys had a mega amount of respect for each other, but they both 516 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520 wanted to be the man. 517 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:38,920 This didn't end the rivalry, because I honestly think the rivalry would still 518 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,180 going on if Piper was still with us. 519 00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:43,440 But it ended that story. 520 00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:47,960 After WCW ceased to be, 521 00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:51,960 Hulk Hogan ended up returning to the WWE. 522 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:58,720 And once he put that red and yellow back on, all the Hulkamaniacs were right 523 00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:59,780 back there with him. 524 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:06,360 There's an issue between you and me, McMahon, and it goes longer than 20 525 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:07,420 brother. 526 00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:13,240 We get one more little shot of him at WrestleMania 19 when Hogan goes back to 527 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,240 the WWE. 528 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:18,630 And Vince is a very mean Vince McMahon at this point. 529 00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:21,090 I created Hulkamania. 530 00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,070 And by God, at WrestleMania, I'm going to kill it. 531 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:31,790 They're going to have a match. The head of the company is going to wrestle the 532 00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:33,450 man who helped build the company. 533 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,930 It is 20 years in the making. Hulkman Hogan. 534 00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:43,530 McMahon is down. 535 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Hogan is down. 536 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,460 What the hell is he doing here? 537 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,040 That's Roddy, Roddy Piper. 538 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:54,580 No freaking way. 539 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:56,400 Roddy Piper is here. 540 00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:58,420 What the hell is going on here? 541 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,860 All you got to do is walk in a trench coat and take it off and they go, ow. 542 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,280 That's how much credibility. 543 00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:13,590 The entire situation has. 544 00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:16,950 Roddy Piper flooring Hogan. 545 00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:24,650 Piper gets a pipe and just goes to town on Hulk Hogan. And you feel as 546 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:29,570 a fan as if there was a little bit more than just story trying to be told in 547 00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:30,570 that moment. 548 00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:37,410 There's two guys out there that'll do anything, anything to keep this art form 549 00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:39,110 alive. And we're so much alike. 550 00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:40,410 It's scary. 551 00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:45,660 You know, two old guys always want to get over on each other. I mean, you put 552 00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:48,260 Jordan and Bird out there, I don't care what. 553 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:51,860 One of them is going to try to get over on the other one. And I think that's 554 00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:53,320 what it is with Piper and Hogan. 555 00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:01,400 Over the years, it felt like a bond formed between these two legends, and I 556 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,040 think that was most evident in 2005 when they were both inducted into the Hall 557 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040 of Fame. 558 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920 And I got to admit, I was jealous of Hogan. 559 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,920 Well, I had nothing to do with the hair. 560 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,400 My name is Rowdy Roddy Piper, and you ain't seen nothing yet. 561 00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:26,240 The one, the only, the incredible Hulk Hogan! 562 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,120 Roddy Piper and I, we had a great time in this business. 563 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:39,180 And what you gonna do, brothers, when the WWE runs wild on you? 564 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,000 I gotta tell you, I heard you yelping all over again about you and Mr. T, how 565 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,300 you beat us at WrestleMania. 566 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,440 He got us! He got us! 567 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,380 Hey, big guy. 568 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,240 Wait a minute. 569 00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,600 Be a man, 570 00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:04,640 Piper. Bury the hatchet. 571 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000 My word. 572 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,440 That's a WrestleMania moment. 573 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:28,060 Unfortunately, that sad day did come in 2015 for every wrestling fan in the 574 00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:31,640 world when we found out that Roddy Piper had passed away. 575 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,740 Two days after Piper died, all of a sudden he gets a voice message. Bing! 576 00:40:38,060 --> 00:40:39,860 I looked at it and I saw it from Piper. 577 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,900 I'm walking with Jesus today, my brother. 578 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:44,400 Walking with Jesus. 579 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,420 Loving you and praying for you. 580 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Very strange. 581 00:40:48,350 --> 00:40:49,910 I know there's been delays in Texas. 582 00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:53,470 If it's raining here in Florida, the weather's weird. It may take an hour or 583 00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:58,150 to get there. But two days after he passed to get that, you know, 584 00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:00,930 it's crazy. 585 00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:04,190 I still have it at home. 586 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:13,370 I've always thought, I don't know who belongs on the Mount Rushmore of great 587 00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:17,270 heels, but I know it starts with Roddy Piper, and there's no one close. 588 00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:19,450 Who are you supposed to be? 589 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:21,030 Hogan, Mr. Piper. 590 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:22,009 Who's he? 591 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:25,490 The last time I saw him, he was catching dogs for the service for the city. Are 592 00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:26,249 you the candy? 593 00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:27,470 You got candy in there? 594 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:31,290 The whole world's going to witness this when you feel the wrath of the officers. 595 00:41:31,870 --> 00:41:34,910 There's two sides of a coin, a heads and a tails. 596 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:37,470 Piper and Hogan together, unstoppable. 597 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:41,650 If you think of Hogan, you know, don't you think of Piper? 598 00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:46,190 It just was always a natural rivalry that people could relate to. 599 00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:49,990 I am the legend killer. 600 00:41:50,530 --> 00:41:54,950 All of a sudden, this Hulkamania is going wild all over the place, and he's 601 00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:55,950 becoming a legend. 602 00:41:56,490 --> 00:42:02,630 I'm so thankful that those two guys came together at the same time, and I was 603 00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:04,190 watching at the age that I was. 604 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:08,390 I didn't know how the old man could go. 605 00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:10,750 But you hit the bottom, brother. 606 00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:15,390 It'll go down in history. There will always be a Piper Hogan connection until 607 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:16,390 the end of time. 608 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,940 Whatever animosity that we may have, I wouldn't have picked anybody else. I 609 00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:24,020 would have said, to heck with that Hogan. I don't like him. 610 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,480 He's the guy. 611 00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:29,740 He's the guy. So I got you. I got you locked in. Ring the bell. 612 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:31,460 Let's roll. 51558

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