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Mankind and The Undertaker, they're
battling for control of the dark side.
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The only way mankind could take on The
Undertaker was to have a really dark
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soul. There was only one way to go with
it, and that was violence.
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They were put on this earth to fight
each other.
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It's different, it's gritty, I love it.
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You're going to get buried alive, you're
like, with dirt?
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Nick and I took years off each other's
careers.
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You have to admire my spunk.
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The Mankind Undertaker story, I think
that was there.
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This rivalry has just escalated into a
war.
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When two legends collide.
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Their rivalry stays pinned in our minds
forever.
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This is where we break down the
legendary stories behind the greatest
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of all time.
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I'm Freddie Prinze Jr., and this is WWE
Rivals.
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This is one of my favorite rivalries,
Undertaker and Mankind. The types of
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matches they had were so different.
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So unique and so crazy. This rivalry, as
far as the extremity of
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it, can never be topped.
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You got Taker, who's dead.
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You know, you have... Literally, they
call him the dead man.
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You have Mick Foley, who's crazier than
crazy. I mean, you can't get any crazier
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than Mick Foley.
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Let's talk about Undertaker in 1995,
just before Mankind comes over in 96.
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I've never seen anybody that had more
respect in any business, anywhere.
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There was one constant that was
Undertaker, always.
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He was the barometer.
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I want to switch over to Mankind and
paint a picture of what kind of wrestler
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Mankind was.
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Legitimate. He brought a pain tolerance.
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No other man that I've been around.
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That's why coming into the WWE and
facing The Undertaker, it was as real as
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possibly could be.
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Look at the car. It's bad for my image.
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Mick was a different kind of cat.
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Hi, nice to meet you.
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The man has got a really gentle nature
about him. You like the Backstreet Boys?
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Yeah.
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It just kind of brings an energy to a
room that you enjoy being around.
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And then you go out to the arena and he
turns into a complete lunatic.
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It's a story based on brutality.
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I rode with Mark Calloway
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before he was The Undertaker. When we
were together in WCW, I split rooms.
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with Mark Calloway. I stayed at Mark
Calloway's parents' house.
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But this guy who showed up at Survivor
Series, this was The Undertaker.
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Awesome is the only word I can take to
describe this Undertaker.
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He hits like a ton of brick, this guy.
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I'm watching the pay -per -view, and I
very much realize that this is, on a
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certain level, the same guy that I drove
with and split rooms with. But on
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another level, he's a completely
different guy.
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Oh, inverted pall driver.
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Then he calls the tombstone.
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Look at this. Look at the arms.
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Please. R .I .P., pal.
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The almost white face as a child. I've
watched that. And there was a genuine
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fear to that character.
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He's got six foot ten. He's over 300
pounds.
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Ashes to ashes.
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Dust to dust.
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Coming down the aisle with his
miniature.
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It really became apparent to me early on
that Undertaker and Mark Calloway, they
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were going to somehow have to become the
same person. Mark Calloway got put way,
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way back on the back shelf. And the
Undertaker is what most people most of
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time saw.
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You know, the spirit of Undertaker has
been handed down throughout the
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centuries.
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For five or six years running,
Undertaker had beaten guys who were
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than him or bigger than him.
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People just expected me to just mow
through everybody.
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Somehow he became this iconic good guy.
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The Undertaker had been a character that
conquered monsters.
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What if we had somebody that, while
maybe they weren't quite as big as The
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Undertaker, was nuts and didn't care?
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Part of what I brought to the game was
this reputation for
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wildness.
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Kept pitching and pitching Mick to
Vince.
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So I told Vince, I said, hey, look, if
nothing else, we bring Foley in.
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We give him a shot.
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I talk to the Undertaker.
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He knows him. He likes him. Once Vince
saw Mick and the Undertaker do their
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thing, he would like it.
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Secondly, once Vince got to know Mick on
an individual basis, he would love the
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guy.
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I didn't know at the time that Mr.
McMahon had not been a big fan of mine.
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Jim Ross was pushing for me. Mr. McMahon
slammed his hand down on the table,
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said, all right, I'll bring him in.
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But I'm covering up his face.
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So when Jim Ross tells me, this is how
you're starting, I realize you only have
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one chance to make a first impression.
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And on the eighth day, God created
mankind.
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Why was he having such a bad day?
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When I debuted in 1996 as Mankind, that
character was kind of a tortured soul.
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You understand me, don't you, George?
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You understand that mankind is in pain.
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I wanted to be a darker character
because I felt like the only way this
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creation could feasibly take on The
Undertaker was to have a really dark
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soul. You think you're normal?
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Think inside!
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You are merely a mirror image of all my
atrocities! From a storytelling
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perspective.
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Mick Foley is borderline genius.
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April 1st, 1996, the day after
WrestleMania.
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From Death Valley, weighing 328 pounds,
The
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Undertaker!
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You have one character in The Undertaker
who dishes out a lot of pain to people.
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And, you know, that's his calling card.
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And then now you have this character who
just thrives on it.
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Mankind's debut. We have one person at
the table here who had a very unique
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perspective on this because you happen
to be in the ring with the man he was
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about to have this rivalry with. Yeah, I
just remember when he came out, I just
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remember rolling the floor and thought,
okay, there's a bunch of carnage about
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to happen. I'm just going to get out of
the way.
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I'm coming hot out of the gate with The
Undertaker. Like, I'm not waiting in
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line. I attack the biggest dog in the
yard.
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Now you have this crazy character going
against this monster babyface.
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I want to say a match made in heaven. I
think it was more of a match made in
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hell.
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Getting there and debuting in WWE
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with The Undertaker, that is the
ultimate pressure.
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Someone like Mankind coming in being
just as diabolical, maybe even more so
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The Undertaker.
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Now we have two characters that have no
parameters.
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There was only one way to go with it,
and that was violence.
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But The Undertaker got a chance.
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He was going to go for it and Foley gave
him that chance.
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And after their first match, They had a
lot of trust for each other.
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How do you tell a story between two
supernatural -type characters? You can't
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just have a regular match. So we have
the boiler room brawl.
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Mankind basically lived in a boiler room
with his pet rat, George.
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That was his home. That's where mankind
felt at home.
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So the idea to have a match in mankind's
environment was unique.
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The way this match works is that both
superstars start the match in the boiler
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room. They have to fight all the way
through the arena, get to ringside, and
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obtain the Undertaker's powerful urn
from Paul Bearer's hands.
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We actually had to record the boiler
room brawl the night before SummerSlam.
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Yeah, Undertaker just needs a couple of
minutes to get into it.
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Being able to record it in advance took
away a lot of that risk where if
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something didn't go exactly as we wanted
it to go, we could stop it down and
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shoot it a different way.
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Here we go.
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You rolling?
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Board of the Room Brawl, I was there
when we recorded it. That was brutal,
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And that was just all -out war.
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Let's do it. Good luck.
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Open it.
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Say you're sorry before we ring the
bell, because I'm going to tell you
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now. I ain't holding nothing back. I
suggest you don't either.
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Mankind is in that boiler room
someplace.
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Oh.
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Gundarina in Cleveland.
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Filthy. Dirt everywhere. Dust
everywhere.
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Anything that wasn't tied down, you were
probably going to get hit with.
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The boiler room ball allows me to
utilize everything around me.
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So I thought, here's something that can
highlight the things that I can do.
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Everything that happened in that match,
you know, it was real.
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I climb up that ladder. I know there's
some cardboard boxes that I'm hoping are
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going to break my fall.
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They do to some extent, but half my body
doesn't land on those boxes, right? I
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undershoot it just a little bit.
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I think Mick and I took years off each
other's careers.
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A potato in wrestling speak is
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a really stiff blow above and beyond
what we usually deliver. And sometimes
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our urgency to have a great match, we
might serve up a couple of potatoes.
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We get to the point where we'll pick up
from here tomorrow at the pay -per
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-view. I remember getting a cut on my
elbow.
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They have a doctor there and they said,
hey, you want me to sew that up? And I
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was like, no, I can't sew it up. It's
got to be open tomorrow or it's not
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to, you know, it's not going to match
up. You know, how in the world did I get
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stitches in between this and this?
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The Boiler Room Brawl.
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Coming up next here at SummerSlam.
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I remember walking backstage on the
actual day of the event.
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Terry Runnels was walking behind me, and
she goes, do you know that every time
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that your arm bends, there's blood
shooting out of your elbow?
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So I'm walking down the hall, and every
time my arm would come down, it's just
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shooting out of my arm.
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He actually had to re -bust open his
elbow to create some continuity.
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I mean, it was a big deal.
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Wow. Pretty remarkable thing that he
did.
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We were able to have the performers make
their way out to the arena and finish
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the match in front of the live audience.
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I had to come up with something because
we were both so beaten up and worn out
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from the boiler room brawl the night
before. And now we have to like
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appear backstage and brawl in a
meaningful way.
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You use your surroundings.
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I see a coffee machine.
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Sorry. You know, you apologize ahead of
time.
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What's hot coffee?
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There just happened to be a big pot of
coffee.
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He saw it. He grabbed it.
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Scalding hot coffee. No one had scalding
coffee on their bingo card, but a guy's
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got to do what a guy's got to do when
he's up against a female.
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Mankind's going to come into the arena.
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But you didn't just have to get out of
the boiler room into the ring. You had
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claim ownership of the urn.
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It's amazing either of these men can
even stand.
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Oh, my God, did you hear that?
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And the undertaker, the victor here
tonight at SummerSlam.
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Give him the urn.
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Nobody thought Paul Bearer would ever
turn on The Undertaker.
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People were pissed.
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People were upset.
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Paul Bearer was like Undertaker's dad.
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I mean, he represented a father figure.
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The audience. And when you think about
father figure, you think about trust,
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think about respect, you think about
loyalty. So when the audience feels
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betrayed, it really ignites an emotional
reaction.
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And now what? Yeah. What else can
happen?
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There's a legitimate chance that, you
know, you're going to see the end of The
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Undertaker.
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They told a very cinematic story with
this mesh. Had you ever seen anything
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this before?
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Well, the company was doing things that
had never been done before.
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And it definitely worked because we're
talking about it 20 years later.
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Mankind, you will never rest.
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You get to a spot with character where
they're so rich, you almost need to
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invent new ways for them to battle.
That's what happened with The Undertaker
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Mankind. A new match was created just
for them called the Buried Alive match.
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And they explained, well, there's going
to be a grave plot with a six -foot
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hole. And in order to win the match, you
have to put your opponent in the grave
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and bury them alive.
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Well, you know, when you say you're
going to get buried alive, you're like,
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with dirt?
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All that's left to do is to fill this
grave with your rotting maggot
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-infested carcass.
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Are you ready to see someone get buried
alive?
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This is... The first time a match like
this has happened, and it's a constant
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flirtation with death.
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Somebody's literally going to be buried
alive.
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If you die, you lose.
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It's basically the stipulation. And I
remember even Vince going, this is an
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unsanctioned match. This is the first
ever unsanctioned match. I don't believe
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you. And whoever was on the other mic
goes, well, yeah, obviously, because
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there's no way this could happen.
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Oh, my goodness.
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This war continues.
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It's this match that presents all these
opportunities because whatever we're
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doing in and around the ring is just a
pretense to get us up here to the grave.
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These two evil entities are battling for
control of the dark side and to tell
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the story that needs to be told with
these two guys, you're going to have to
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something that is desperate and, you
know, it's just like Hail Mary.
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It kind of reminded me of watching a
Friday the 13th with Jason. I was going
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say that. And Michael Myers, because
whenever they would get hit, you know,
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was always that moment you thought they
were down and dead, and all of a sudden
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they were alive.
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You're like, oh, run, you know, get out
the way, don't stand there. He's not
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dead.
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These guys are trying to kill each
other.
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I end up getting chokeslammed into a
grave, and then the earth starts coming
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down on top of me.
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I'm tired, I'm exhausted, I've been
through a lot, and now a human being is
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throwing earth on me.
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Mankind is not moving.
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And you have people thinking to
themselves, surely nobody's getting
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front of our eyes.
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Terry Gordy comes out as the
executioner. He waylays The Undertaker.
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Mankind is coming back under threat!
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Now begins this.
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mammoth attempt to completely fill that
grave in a few minutes without any
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machinery. Everybody wants to bury the
Undertaker!
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The real story is there was a myth
calculation of how long it would
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take to fill up the hole once Undertaker
was in there. So we had to send out
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half the roster.
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We rush out there with shovels to fill
up a full grave.
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Try filling in a grave with a shovel in
10 minutes on live television. That was
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the dumbest thing.
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We didn't get a quarter of the grave
filled.
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Mick Foley's scraping dirt in. He's
blown up from the match.
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But if you'd have seen the crowd that
night, it was horror and shock thinking
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that Undertaker had actually been
killed. People were buying it.
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And I'm thinking, somebody's coming over
this rail.
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There are people to this day that were
kids then
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that are adults now.
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Like, you don't know what that did to
me. I mean, I was freaked out. Like, I
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to sleep with the lights on for a while.
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This one's over. The Undertaker did not
survive.
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I remember looking at the face of a
father and he says,
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I can't believe I'm watching this
because we're watching a human being get
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buried.
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When that purple glove come out of the
bird, man, it was another one of those
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moments that people did not expect, but
gave them such hope.
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It's those kind of stories that let you
know that what you do means something.
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We've had these incredible wars, Mankind
and Undertaker.
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And
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I
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haven't fared that great.
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And we get this lightning strike, and
the whole crowd gasps.
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His hand busts through, still gloved,
and we're left with that lasting image.
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It actually worked because you had the
right ingredients to make it work. All
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that's important is the setup for what's
coming next. To get to the match that
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you remember. That's right.
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That's right, because you're setting up
something great. Yes.
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It's a Mankind preppy look, just in time
for summer.
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What we had to wait for was the second
Hell in a Cell match ever.
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A Hell in a Cell match is a match in
which you compete inside of a ring that
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completely covered by a solid steel
cage.
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The structure itself is intimidating.
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The first Hell in a Cell match, they
were looking to do something
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And mankind was looking to, I've got to
do something bigger.
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And if that's not enough, I can
guarantee that mankind will have a
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everyone that you will not soon forget.
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I had a lot of concerns going into that
Hell in a Cell match with The
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Undertaker. Have a nice day!
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The challenge for me...
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was not trying to reach the bar that
Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker had
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in October of 1997.
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It was to just do some kind of justice
to it.
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Terry Funk and I visit the WWE offices.
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We watch the first cell match in its
entirety.
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After about a minute of odd silence, I
said to Terry, I said, what am I going
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do? And then he starts to laugh. And he
starts riffing about being thrown off
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the top of the cell.
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And he keeps laughing.
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And I look at him and I said, I think I
can do that.
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And every day I would approach The
Undertaker with the idea of starting the
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match on top of the cell.
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And every single day he shot it down.
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And he persisted. You know, he really
wanted to take that bump because he felt
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like he needed it. And I ended up asking
him.
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Like, Mick, why do you want to kill
yourself?
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And it was a serious moment.
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And it got to the point, I think it was
the day of, I'm a firm no.
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And somehow he got to Vince and
convinced Vince that it was okay.
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And then they double teamed me.
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And it's like, Mark, he's pretty sure
that he can take that bump.
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And I'm like.
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No, I don't think we need it.
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And they kept on. I'm like, look, fine.
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If that's what you want to do, then
we'll do it.
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We have only seen one Hell in a Cell
matchup in WWF history, and it was the
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unbelievable match that I think I've
ever witnessed, JR.
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It is a perverse, vile, diabolical
structure.
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Satanic.
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Hellish.
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It will absolutely be unforgiving as
this night progresses.
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We know we got some fireworks.
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We know we're going to do something no
one's ever thought to do before.
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The Undertaker has a broken foot.
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We think the worst part of his night
physically is going to be that journey
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to the top of the cell.
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Undertaker in a very precarious
position.
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between the Undertaker and the concrete
floor, but imagination.
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He's there!
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He's there!
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And apparently the Hell in a Cell match
is officially underway in the most god
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-awful...
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Well, if a lot of white people are...
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I can see myself standing there watching
him fall.
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He ain't getting up from this.
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And I'm thinking in my head, just move,
man, move.
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You know, when he grabs me by the collar
and the waistband, bam, off I go. Like
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that flight didn't seem like it was ever
going to end.
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Mankind went off the cage.
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Everybody in the arena, I no doubt would
think they would have thought that this
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thing is over.
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When we really put that in perspective,
mankind could have died that day. Right,
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yeah. Oh, yeah.
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This was a guy that was willing to die
in the middle of that ring to go out
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there and get his point across.
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It was so surreal that I thought that
maybe I was having like an aneurysm or
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something.
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I wasn't really seeing what I was
seeing.
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I generally felt that he was dead.
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He
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was
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falling through a wood table that was
sitting on a concrete floor.
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And there was no padding under the
table.
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It was Foley's body hitting wood,
hitting concrete.
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So in my mind's eye, I'm thinking, an
average human being cannot live through
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that ordeal.
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And obviously, Mick Foley was far from
being an average human being.
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He landed through the table right at my
feet, and I'm looking down at him, and
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he opened his eyes, and he smiled.
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And he started moving around, and I'm
like, that's the toughest son of a bitch
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right there.
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I have ever seen in my life.
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The Undertaker is a legend,
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right? The biggest, probably the biggest
one in our business.
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But I'll admit that when I was lying
underneath the wreckage of that table
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half my body was sticking out into the
crowd and they were chanting The
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Undertaker's name, there was part of me
thinking, maybe you guys are cheering
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for the wrong guy.
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Wait, now the cage is coming back down.
I guess they've got to get the
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Undertaker off of the top of this cage.
The Undertaker is coming down. He's
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climbing down before the cage is even on
the ground.
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So now I'm thinking, boy, we're really
screwed because this is early in the
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match. I mean, really early.
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How in the hell are we going to finish?
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Again, if this match has ended, we
apologize.
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I have never... Why do you apologize for
that?
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And lo and behold, somehow...
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Mick, knowing that he's got to deliver
for this audience and for The
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he wills himself back into this match.
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And that's what it was.
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That sucker, man.
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He got off of that gurney. He started
back up the cell. I'm like, good night.
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When I start climbing up and the fans in
the Civic Arena realize this thing's
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not over, they respond with a type of
energy that could have lit that city up
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for a week.
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I just get the goosebumps thinking of
it.
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This is absolutely amazing.
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I've suffered a lot from that fall. So
when I get up to the top, I don't have
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much left in the tank. And I'm thinking
in my head.
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At least the worst part of my night is
over. I was tank corrected because
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are about to get a lot worse.
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When Mick hit that panel, and the panel
just broke away, and it was such a
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violent, I mean, just a whole
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other level of violent bump that he
took.
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He rotates another few inches.
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He don't get up.
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And that one night, for whatever reason,
my feet never left the mesh.
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And it's a godsend they did not, because
when I hit that mesh, and it just, like
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a hot knife through butter.
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There's a chair up on top of that cell
structure that I've had the wisdom and
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foresight to bring up there with me.
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And when the Undertaker chokeslamming
and I go through, that chair follows me
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down.
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Every foot of the way, it smashes into
my face, you know, to this day.
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Still missing those teeth. And one of
them ends up lodged in my nostril.
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I just knew he was through.
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And I looked at him and looked down at
him. I said, turn around the referee and
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said, he's out. He's gone.
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It's over.
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He's not going to get up.
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I was scared to death for him.
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The ring fills up with people to check
on me. It looks like Terry haphazardly
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touching my face.
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It wasn't just touching my face. He was
taking my pulse.
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Stands up, says to the undertaker, he's
still breathing.
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over to my stomach and my head goes like
this the reason my head bobbed is
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because my first conscious thought was
where'd their shoes come from how is he
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still standing up i don't have a damn
flu oh my oh and he's smiling he's got a
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tooth in his nose he's kind of got a
perverse smile on his face like i'm not
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dead yet you may think i'm done but i'm
not done
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I'm punching him and trying to create
time so that he can get his thoughts
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together again.
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And every time I hit him, I'm just
saying, Mick, stay down.
438
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000
Just stay down.
439
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,699
I went into the match with a broken
ankle.
440
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:40,080
You know, I'm questioning my manhood,
like, right? Like, I ain't saying about
441
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,780
my ankle.
442
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,739
After this.
443
00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:52,320
To watch mankind
444
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:59,280
and The Undertaker create that magic in
such a dangerous situation, to
445
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,820
have that on your mind and still be able
to perform at the highest level, that's
446
00:35:03,820 --> 00:35:06,100
what true pros do. That's what
professionals do.
447
00:35:06,810 --> 00:35:12,570
Just the spectacle of trying to watch
two human beings limp over the finish
448
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,450
line. By God, we didn't cut the match
short.
449
00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:19,710
Steele just ramming and jamming into the
flesh of the Undertaker.
450
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:23,310
And there's a cover. That's it. Tell me
it's over. Got him.
451
00:35:23,570 --> 00:35:29,730
The Undertaker, he had the long mane of
dark red hair, and he leaned over and he
452
00:35:29,730 --> 00:35:32,050
said the words, go home.
453
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:34,770
What's he got now? Uh -oh.
454
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,240
He went under the ring to get something.
455
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:38,940
What is it?
456
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920
A sack. Put it in a bag or something.
457
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:44,660
Got it in that.
458
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:49,920
I got it. What is that?
459
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,280
Stump pack.
460
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:52,700
Uh -oh.
461
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,760
Stump pack.
462
00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:58,680
My God.
463
00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:01,020
He has to finish.
464
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,440
He has to get to the tacks.
465
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,260
He's going to try to throw the
Undertaker right on those tacks.
466
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Some of the things that seemed like good
ideas at the time have not aged well.
467
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:24,240
But
468
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,740
I
469
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:33,960
think you have to admire my spunk.
470
00:36:54,260 --> 00:37:00,560
I'm trying to reason with a man who's
just cheated death twice.
471
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Nick, we're good.
472
00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:06,660
Just stay down.
473
00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:08,640
I gotta get to the tax, brother.
474
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,080
I'm... We don't need the tax, man.
475
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,020
We don't need the tax.
476
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:18,360
We got to the tax.
477
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,760
He didn't like the way the tax worked
the first time. We did it twice.
478
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:17,570
The referee, Mike Chioda, he wasn't the
match referee, but he came out and he
479
00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:20,310
said, we're bringing a stretcher out for
you.
480
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:25,170
And I asked him this question. I say,
have I already been on a stretcher
481
00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:26,170
tonight?
482
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:31,210
And he informed me that I had. And I
just said, I can't be on two stretchers
483
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:32,210
one night.
484
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:37,950
Look at mankind. It's almost as if he
doesn't want, you are kidding, to leave
485
00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:38,950
a stretcher.
486
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:51,130
I mean, that tells you everything you
need to know about Mick Foley, the
487
00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:52,130
entertainer.
488
00:38:54,370 --> 00:39:01,350
He was willing to put it all on the line
so that he could have that match that
489
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:02,350
he wanted.
490
00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:05,910
He wanted it for me, and he wanted it
for the fans.
491
00:39:06,270 --> 00:39:08,590
And he's always been like that.
492
00:39:10,670 --> 00:39:11,670
That match.
493
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:20,120
That's the next level stuff that most
people don't have inside them.
494
00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:25,680
It really is incredible.
495
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:30,820
It's a beautiful art of violence.
496
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,400
That level of sacrifice, commitment, is
something that I think will forever be
497
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,000
remembered by the fans and why those two
men will forever be respected.
498
00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:44,670
We didn't watch it. We believed it.
499
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:57,490
You know, I had a hard time dealing with
the aftermath of the South.
500
00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:01,910
I'm talking about for years to follow.
501
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:09,770
Nothing I would ever do from that moment
on would make fans forget how we had
502
00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:10,770
made them feel.
503
00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:15,160
in that moment of time. I could get
pretty cantankerous about it. It was a
504
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,240
night, but I've gotten a lot of
publicity off of it over the last two
505
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Every day, I'm asked about the same
match, the same question, did it hurt?
506
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,140
And I was tired of it.
507
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:32,340
And it wasn't until The Undertaker came
to see me doing one of my storytelling
508
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:37,400
shows, and he said these words to me. He
said, you know, Jack, what you and I
509
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,540
did that night...
510
00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:46,080
will outlive us both people will be
talking about that match when we're both
511
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,200
dead and gone and when i drove home that
night i felt like a giant weight had
512
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:57,380
been lifted off my shoulders because i
felt free to embrace it and free to
513
00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:00,380
celebrate it and free to talk about it
514
00:41:01,450 --> 00:41:05,410
And now the last person I'd like to
mention without whom none of this would
515
00:41:05,410 --> 00:41:11,070
happened. I might be here on this very
night, but I'd be out there watching it
516
00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:15,590
instead of up here being inducted. And
the person in question is The
517
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:23,650
Over the years, I have often wondered
where my life would have gone had The
518
00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:29,050
Undertaker and I not crossed paths when
we did in April of 1996.
519
00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:33,810
I'm not in the WWE Hall of Fame without
The Undertaker.
520
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:39,610
I'm not in a position where I can
continue to wear sweatpants and a fanny
521
00:41:39,610 --> 00:41:40,610
in public.
522
00:41:41,070 --> 00:41:45,750
I'm not in a position where I can be a
guy with one ear who doesn't care what
523
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:46,890
other people think about him.
524
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:53,870
I look back at that moment in time and
I'm just so grateful
525
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:59,530
that our lives were entwined.
526
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:03,460
Very rarely do we talk business.
527
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,320
It's more of a, how are you? How's the
family?
528
00:42:07,780 --> 00:42:08,860
How are you feeling?
529
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:11,060
We have our history.
530
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:12,860
No one's going to take that away.
531
00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:19,480
And we have a very prominent piece of
history in the WWE legacy.
532
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,580
The story of Undertaker and Mankind, I
mean...
533
00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:34,110
it'll last the annals of time.
534
00:42:34,850 --> 00:42:37,950
My life would not be the same without
you, and that's the truth.
535
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:45,410
Thank you, man. And I don't say that to
boast. I mean, it is what it is. I mean,
536
00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:52,270
it's a great story that was told by two
guys that are still here to tell
537
00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:53,270
it.
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