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I would call Mysterio and Guerrero two
of the greatest Latino wrestlers in the

history of world wrestling
entertainment.

A dream team.

We really bonded and connected because
Eddie was definitely a mentor.

Almost like brothers.

Man, we had some great, great times. A
lot of fun.

And then like every marriage, eventually
you're going to bump heads.

We wanted to be the bad guy.

Behind the scenes.

There's an element of tension and
natural competition.

They brought television's best soap
opera to WWE SmackDown.

Hey, Ray, this is your son Dominic's
daycare.

The crazy thing about it is, is you have
to understand you're dealing with real

human beings, real life.

Dominic is Ray's son.

Don't hurt my son!

Oh, like, that's real heavy stuff, man.

What happened to brotherhood, SP?

It all escalated so fast.

He wanted a fight. I gave him a fight.

When two legends collide,

their rivalry stays pinned in our minds
forever.

This is where we break down the
legendary stories behind the greatest

of all time.

I'm Freddie Prinze Jr., and this is WWE
Rivals.

This one is very near and dear to my
heart, and by far my favorite, Eddie

Guerrero versus Rey Mysterio.

And in order to properly invest in this,
we have to talk about Lucha Libre as a

whole. My grandmother from Boqueron,
Puerto Rico, was the first person to

show me a wrestling match.

And she says, Lucha is the struggle.
It's the fight between the two men.

Even though its roots were from Mexico,
in America, this was an opportunity for

the American Chicano to have someone to
grab onto.

Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio were the
greatest two Latino stars of all time.

Two of the greatest stars of all time.
You hate to even pigeonhole them and say

Latino stars.

You can kind of see the effect that they
had on a young man like me when they

were wrestling. And I know they've had
that effect on even younger people who

watched them and saw them as heroes.

Hello, my name is Eddie Guerrero, a
friend to you, but also a professional

wrestler. First time I saw Eddie
Guerrero, I was just a fan.

Eddie was going and he was wrestling at
the auditorium in Tijuana.

wrestling next to my uncle, Ray Mysterio
Sr.

Ray Mysterio!

It's just amazing how life itself
circles around.

You know, I never would have thought
that one day I was going to become his

great partner and then his great
nemesis.

Eddie Guerrero up top!

Jackknife! Eddie Guerrero had the talent
and...

He had it all. He had it. He had the
legacy, the name, Guerrero.

Me growing up with Mexican Lucha Libre,
you always hear about the stories about

the Guerreros being that they came from
Gory Guerrero, the legendary partner of

El Santo.

You know, in my life, I always wanted to
be like my dad.

They used to call him Ave de las
Tempestades, which means...

Thunderbird. And the reason they called
him Thunderbird, he'd go into the

people, you know, take an ass.

I want to be as good as my dad. I want
to be as good as my brothers, you know.

And little by little, I learned that I
couldn't live like that because it was

killing me.

You know, I had to learn how to live my
own story and make my own story. I'm a

second generation wrestler. When I was
born, I came out of my mom. I drop

the doctor. That's right. You don't mess
with me, Jack. I got blood flowing in

my vein.

Wrestling blood.

Now Eddie Guerrero wears the American
colors, red, white, and blue.

As you can hear, that really infuriates
the Mexican fans.

In the world of Lucha Libre, you have
the técnicos, which are the good guys.

What's Guerrero got to do? A poke in the
eyes.

And you have the rulos, which are the
bad guys.

Eddie's character, he had the flip mode
switch.

Here goes Guerrero off the road. Front
kick in midair by Guerrero. He can be a

técnico or he can be a rulo.

To be able to dominate both worlds,
that's a gift.

If you had asked me back then, man,
would you love to work at it, I would

said yes.

I was a skinny, scrumpy little kid that
had this passion for lucha libre.

Prior to becoming Rey Mysterio Jr., I
remember my first match.

My uncle comes up to me and he says,
what do you think about this name or

name? And I'm thinking to myself, wait,
you're saying I'm not going to be Rey

Mysterio Jr.?

He goes, no, no, no, you got to earn
that.

That takes some work.

Within about a year and a half to almost
two years, I walk out to the ring, and

right before the match is getting ready
to start, my uncle walks out.

And I'm thinking to myself, whoa, what's
going on here?

You know, he grabs the mic, and tonight
there will be history in the making.

He will now be known as...

It was like a new beginning for me.

The first time that I kind of understood
what they were all about is when they

came in and like that explosion of
wrestlers that came in to WCW. The debut

Rey Mysterio Jr.

A sensation from Mexico.

And I'd never seen any of this stuff.

It was amazing.

Watch out!

Mysterio is up and down!

Springboard somersault off the top rope!

The vertical leaping abilities on the
ropes.

Ray Mysterio in WCW, he was a superhero,
you know, which is why I fell in love

with this business, period.

Eddie, the moment he walked out, you're
watching.

You didn't change the channel when Eddie
Guerrero was on.

Off the top.

When Eddie and Ray would go out there
and say a few words in Spanish, it was,

can speak to my people in our language.

Everybody will be okay with it.

They change the dream.

I think that Ray has the same kind of
love that I have for this business.

Ray wrestles because he loves it in his
heart.

And that's the main drive in him.

And I believe that to be so in my life.

And that's what I see in Ray.

In WCW is where we really bonded and
connected. My personal life and my

you know, and as a mentor. Because Eddie
was definitely a mentor.

Eddie and I had something very, very
special.

Chemistry that not just happened outside
of the ring.

It happened inside the ring. It happened
any time we were around each other.

It all started in September of 1997.

Eddie and Ray finally put hands on each
other.

It's wild because both men seemingly
never stopped in the ring. It felt like

constant movement, like rushing water.

So much offense and so much intensity
and everything they did was so crisp.

Watching them, you knew it was something
special and magical. Whenever they were

in the ring together, you're just left
speechless and left in awe of the fact

that I felt like that as a kid still
holds true now.

What a comeback

for the kid!

The mask is one of the most important
symbols that represents Lucha Libre.

Some very sacred, some very spiritual,
some very personal that you take with

because when you lose your mask, you
cannot wear it anymore.

That's part of tradition and lucha
libre.

What does the mask mean in lucha libre?

Everything.

It's your heart and your soul.

You wear it as your face.

Try to unmask him. Now this would be the
biggest insult he could do to this guy,

right? On screen.

Eddie Guerrero was playing the ultimate
disrespectful villain by trying to take

the mask off of Rey Mysterio.

It was as if I was to say to you, okay,
I'm going to take your face away.

I'm going to change everything about you
now. And now you're just a human being.

What was really interesting about that
battle was that at the same time that we

were seeing it played out on screen,
behind the scenes, The people that were

control of WCW were also trying to get
Rey Mysterio to start competing without

the mascot.

I just felt that being able to see his
face would enhance his character because

the audience could feel his emotion even
more. But I didn't really understand

the connection, the legacy, the history,
the cultural relevance

of the mask to Rey.

Apparently, the word going around was
that I was losing my mask.

And it came down to Halloween Havoc.
Well, I tell you what, Tony, there's

to be a fight here. Let me tell you
something. What's at stake here?

Guys, livelihood's at stake here.

The mask is Ray.

You're not relating to Ray Mysterio like
he's an average human being.

You're relating to Ray Mysterio like
he's something different.

Because Ray is the mask.

You know, I know he had a lot to prove
that night.

Nice arm drag by Mysterio. Don't try
this at home.

I didn't want to give up something that
was part of my beginning.

Our mask is our legacy. A torch that was
passed on to me by my uncle.

And a surfboard maneuver here, pulling
back on the skin, getting on the back,

and here again, he's kicking on the
mask. Hey, he's got the mask ripped.

So it's 1997, Halloween Havoc. Eddie was
running through people, and here comes

Ray. Ray Mysterio Jr.

There's always got to be a bad guy, and
I think Eddie kind of liked being the

bad guy.

Then you've got this perfect, you know,
the perfect baby face.

He's got the mask ripped, ripping at the
eye hole of Mysterio.

Eddie Guerrero tried to rock.

Rey Mysterio of his entire heritage by
trying to take that mask away.

There was a lot of politicking going on
backstage, and it was a big deal for him

to lose his mask. He didn't want to lose
it. Rey Mysterio Jr.

just will not quit.

What I think made Rey Mysterio so
believable in his fight to maintain his

heritage and who he was is that he was
fighting that fight for real.

You know, I know he had a lot to prove
that night, and so did I.

I always wanted to take care of Ray.

One of my favorite matches of my career.

It was just a great moment in time.

I

was

so proud of him and happy for him
because...

He not only deserved it, man, he stole
the show.

This rivalry that I had with Eddie, he
was able to let me show the world

what I can deliver.

I come to work with my heart, and all
you do is

step on it.

And I'm tired of it.

I had been trying to get out of WCW for
a while. I hated being around that

locker room.

It got to a point where I was taking
work home and I was just real depressed

home.

So you start drinking a little more and
start taking a pill here and a pill

there and start going downhill, you
know.

By the grace of God, I'm a recovering
drug addict and alcoholic that works

day to stay sober, that works every day
to walk in the path of God.

Eddie has some demons.

Eddie was a phenomenal worker.

He was a really good dude. He was just a
generous, loving guy.

I was so excited about working in WWE,
you know, because

Vince gives people opportunities.

Watching Monday Night Raw, that first
appearance, that brought a smile to my

face. And he's one of my guys that I
fell in love with in WCW. He's a big

It almost happened as a way of Eddie
opening doors for not just me, but for

ones that were coming after him.

There's something about Rey Mysterio.

If I really have that value, maybe I
need to go to the place where the

stars in the industry come from.

He is the sensational.

Oh, yeah.

The high -flying Rey Mysterio. He makes
his debut next.

One of the first moves I made as lead
writer of SmackDown was to bring in Rey

Mysterio. That was one of the best moves
I made.

Look at Rey.

Look at Mysterio. Oh, my God. A
crossbody from the top of the cage.

Rey Mysterio is a revolutionary, indeed
evolutionary performer.

There's a reason luchadors didn't make
it in America, because they had masks

For Ray to be able to relate like that,
that's beyond amazing.

We're doing Ray's video, and that, it's
even more awesome. I mean, I'm so happy

for him.

Orale, you know, he deserves it, you
know, and he's worked hard.

This is a, it's, I'm on cloud nine right
now for Ray and for myself.

Man, we had some great, great times.

A lot of fun. You know, not just going
out, just having fun, just being buds.

He was always around.

I would see some cowboy boots, you know,
at our guest bedroom, like, right in

front. And I was like, man, I knew Eddie
was here. So I would walk downstairs,

and there he was, you know, sitting in
the kitchen, you know, having breakfast,

you know, with my dad and my mom.

And I remember just, you know, having,
like, breakfast burritos with him.

Eddie Guerrero and Ray Mysterio was just
a natural tag team.

They traveled together.

They practically lived together on the
road. They loved each other. It was a

natural.

As I would call Mysterio and Guerrero a
dream team.

Arguably two of the greatest Latino
wrestlers in the history of world

entertainment. We had wrestled against

each other, but we had never teamed up.
This was complete magic together.

That's a great way to kick off 2005, you
know.

becoming tag team champions.

And then like every marriage, eventually
you're going to bump heads.

There's nobody that can keep up with us,
man. I mean, Rey Mysterio versus Eddie

Guerrero. WrestleMania 21, hoes. The
biggest night of the year, man. This is

history, este vato.

I think you thought I was there.

I knew it.

Oh,

I'm dead serious.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We are
live in Hollywood, and this is

WrestleMania.

You put Ray and Eddie, first match of
WrestleMania 21, you know exactly what

you're going to get.

You're going to start off with a hot
match where they can go, follow that.

And it just sets the bar right off the
bat. And you knew you were going to have

a great match.

Over the top rope by Ray Mysterio.

Mysterio across the ring.

He got him.

Mysterio got him.

Eddie, at the time, he wanted to be a
bad guy.

He knew exactly what he was doing.

I hadn't seen him in this state of mind
prior to our rivalry, but I knew he

could get there very easily.

It all escalated so fast.

Eddie tapped into that

play that he knew would trigger me.

Not this.

No, no, Eddie, put him down.

Bleeding, mask torn.

I mean, what else could happen to me?

At that point, the fans knew it's done.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are still
in shock over the trance -like beating.

of a man this man once called his family
ray mysterio he's changed i don't know

this eddie guerrero i didn't want to do
it ray why'd you make me do it

you can see it in eddie guerrero's eyes
especially when he had that promo where

he was sitting in the ring and the
lights were dim and he was explaining to

his pain and his anger you were stealing
my passion my

Energy, you are still in my Latino heat.

It made you go, whoa, this is an Eddie
we've never really seen before, and he's

dangerous.

When you get to the frustration of, I
can't beat this guy, and Eddie Guerrero

can't beat Ray Mysterio.

Latino heat's in trouble.

Big one, not connected.

Come on, Ray.

Look at this. And a chop.

Eddie Fendish, wow.

Wow. Wow. It's because he can't beat Rey
Mysterio.

What can I do to get that edge on Rey
Mysterio?

I'm going to get in his head.

I know a secret.

Your secret, Rey.

The one you don't want your son Dominic
to know.

The story behind the battle over the
custody of Dominic came from Bruce

and Eddie Guerrero himself.

The storyline came from Eddie Guerrero's
book.

Eddie Guerrero had written about his
problems with drugs and alcohol, and

had a child with another woman during
his separation.

What if that child were Dominic?

Now, you have to understand you're
dealing with real human beings, real

Dominic is Angie and Ray's son.

My dad looked at me and he goes, I want
to talk to you about something.

And I thought I was in trouble, like
right off the bat, because no parent

that to you and it's like something good
is going to happen.

So I was already freaking out. He was
like, so the company wants to do a

storyline with you and me and Eddie.

And I was like, do I have to do it? And
he goes, no, you don't have to. He goes,

but they're going to pay you.

I said, oh, okay.

I really enjoyed being part of such a
rich storyline.

that included family members, which you
hardly ever see.

It was very, very special.

Hey, Ray.

This is your son Dominic's daycare.

I remember very vividly the scene where
I was filming with Eddie in the park.

And after every take, he'd ask me, are
you okay? And then he would hand me a

Twizzler. Yeah, is it good?

Do you like bedtime stories? I love
bedtime stories, Uncle Eddie. Well.

Uncle Eddie promises to tell you a
bedtime story

you'll never, ever forget.

You know, whether it was in the match or
the skits that we were doing, he just

wanted things to be done the best way
possible.

Hey, Ray Ray, I know you were looking at
that. What do you say, Holmes?

You think I should tell everybody our
little secrets?

This storyline was completely outside of
the realm of what was typical for WWE

then, or quite frankly, any time.

Get on your knees and beg me not to tell
the truth.

We've never really had a storyline that
was completely based around the

offspring of your good guy superstar.

It was tight.

I'm sure he didn't mean it, but just the
way he was like, it's just...

I don't know, with him. And, like, I
know afterwards he was just like, hey,

mijo, it's okay. Like, I didn't mean it.

Dominic! Dominic!

Ray is not your father!

I'm your father, Dominic!

I'm your papi.

I'm your papi.

It's hilarious.

I mean, the whole idea of the whole
storyline, it was like, come on.

But you got invested.

Is it true, Dad?

Is it really true?

My teachers were concerned because I
wasn't in school, and what they were

was what was on TV.

It was this real -life connection.

You know, and Eddie, when you talk about
spitting venom, man, there was nothing

like Eddie spitting venom at Ray.

You can tell when something like that
comes off good because they're close in

real life. You know, Eddie's probably
watched Dom grow up, and for him to

this low and try to bring it out on TV
and try to embarrass not just Ray but

whole family and to confuse Dominic,
like, if you go back and watch Dom's

his little eyes is just...

You know, he was younger than me, and
you just want to, like, hold him. You're

like, it's going to be okay no matter
who's your puppy. Like, it's going to be

okay. So it just really brought you in,
you know. So, yeah, I loved Eddie, but

in this particular storyline, I was
ready to see him get what he deserved.

They probably didn't want to hear the
rest of the story, but I bet all of you

do.

There are audience members today that
still wonder.

Eddie Guerrero brought television's best
soap opera to WWE SmackDown.

Uncle Eddie.

It worked so well because everybody knew
how good of a relationship that Ray and

Eddie had.

When you add that element of reality
into a storyline, like, you're drawn in,

right? How can you not be? Like,
especially now, like, as a father, like,

the custody of my kids, oh, like, that's
real heavy stuff, man.

Prove it to me.

Prove it to everybody that you can beat
me one last time.

SummerSlam for the custody of Dominic.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time
in the history of the WWE, the custody

of a child will be determined in a
ladder match.

The whole family gets involved.

And it makes you want to see a man
get...

be down for what he's doing to this
other man on national television.

Briefcase is hanging up in the center of
the ring, and you have to grab a

ladder, climb that ladder, and pull that
briefcase where the custody papers are

in.

And Eddie Guerrero with a cheap shot.
Typical Guerrero fashion to start off

matchup. As fans, we're not truly
watching.

To see which superstar is going to get
custody of a child.

We're watching to see the good guy win.

I remember watching this with my mom,

and my mom was like, what?

You know, like, she hated Eddie, and I
loved seeing her reaction because it

so...

The fight over a custody of a child, it
was beyond just like creepy, pushing the

edge. Wow.

And you wanted to see Eddie get
destroyed by Ray.

Watching it live there as a kid, you
know, it really did put things in

perspective.

Just hearing the shots of ladders and
like.

You know, the sound of the mat,
everything was just, you know, so

I did worry, you know, because I didn't
want either of them to get hurt.

I

remember

falling, and I landed on top of the
ladder, then on the mat.

It was a pretty rough landing.

At the time, you don't feel none of
that.

Your adrenaline is going, and you're
just focused on the tap.

Oh, my God, that was ugly.

Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Dominic,
get over there!

Get Dominic!

Being in the ring and the cameras
rolling, I was scared, man. Like, I

used to that. So my heart would be
beating, my hands would be sweating, but

just knew that I had to go in there and
do what needed to be done.

Dominic's shaking the ladder!

Looking back at it now, I really did try
to shake it, and I couldn't move the

damn thing.

You can't move it! Not strong enough.

We still give him a brief for that.

Slides in and he grabs the ladder and
he's like,

son, you should have shook that ladder.

What's the matter with you?

Give me a hug.

When you're passionate about your sport,
every little moment counts.

No, look at this.

And that's what made Eddie so special.

Eddie went out there and it's magic.

Freaking magic.

It's inexplicable. You can't explain
this guy.

You've got to understand, when he walked
out, it was like an electric cord that

wasn't grounded. Just electrified a
freaking arena.

Oh, my God. Oh,

my God. I never saw nothing like that.

Here we go.

Eddie had such a huge heart that he
wanted you to do good.

And Eddie gave me that blessing to be
able to go out there and perform as his

best tag team partner or perform as his
number one rival.

We were at a SmackDown taping the last
time I had a chance to see Eddie.

I was getting ready to leave the arena,
and I said bye to everyone.

I remember walking up, said, hey, I'll
see you Sunday, okay?

Perfect. Gave him a hug, kiss, and we
left.

Minneapolis, 2005,

November.

When I arrived to the arena,

They broke it to me right then and
there.

Yeah.

Damn, it's hard.

When I arrived to the arena, they broke
it to

me right then and there. Eddie just
passed.

No, no, no, no.

I remember leaving my stuff, and I
jetted over there.

You know, I made it there as fast as I
could.

I was in denial.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

They found Eddie Guerrero at the hotel.

Eddie's heart gave out brushing his
teeth, and it was horrible.

Absolutely horrible, because it was...

It just was a huge hole in my heart, and
I think a hole in the industry overall.

The doctor spoke to the coroners, and
they let us walk into his room and say

goodbye.

And we just paid our respects.

Paid our respects, and it still wasn't
denial. I couldn't believe.

that this was really happening.

I remember kneeling down and just
bawling, crying. We had lost

a fine soul.

You know, one of the best friends you
could ever have.

I guess we all have our life.

From beginning to end written out, we
just don't know when our ending is going

to come.

This hit me hard. And when I heard about
this, a big part of me said it was

fake.

Because I needed to believe that it was.

And I hated learning the truth that he
was gone.

What I wouldn't give to have Eddie here
now.

I mean, there's only one Eddie Guerrero,
man. People talk about him as Reverend

for very good reason. And when he died,
it was just like part of us died with

him.

I found out about Eddie Guerrero's death
at the Target Center at the arena in

Minneapolis.

I saw all these signs that said, rest in
peace, Eddie.

And as a kid, it just didn't quite hit
me.

And I had this big smile on my face, and
this guy walked up to me and goes, did

you hear?

I go, hear what?

He goes, Eddie Guerrero passed away.

And I just remember everything at that
moment just stopped for me.

I felt like someone hit my heart, but
the glass didn't shatter.

And then I took a look around, and I saw
those signs again, and I was like, this

can't be real.

This can't be real.

Eddie Guerrero has passed away.

Eddie was in the prime of his life, 38
years old, in the prime of his career.

Eddie loved to perform more than
anything else, whether he's booed or

was cheered. He loved to perform for all
of you.

My brother, I love you.

Even now, to this day, I would say I've
seen my dad cry.

I can count on one hand how many times
I've seen him cry.

One of those times being Eddie.

I'd see him upstairs, like, just sitting
on the couch by himself and just, like,

looking back at pictures, voicemails,
texts.

I was one of my dad's best friends, and
to see him go like that so suddenly was

a shock to everybody.

I want to dedicate this Royal Rumble to
my brother, to mi

hermano, Eduardo Guerrero.

Y 'all know he's watching us, right?

Oh man, Royal Rumble, 2006.

Very special moment for me.

For the 19th consecutive year, the road
to WrestleMania begins at the Royal

Rumble. Paying homage to Eddie tonight
in a lowrider, here comes Mysterio.

Coming out with the lowrider, hitting
the switches, bouncing up and down.

There was an empty spot.

I needed Eddie there.

But he was there in spirit.

I have 28 guys following me, so it's not
looking too good for me right off the

get -go.

2006 Royal Rumble is an incredible
moment.

The fight that Ray was fighting is the
same fight that Ray and Eddie fought for

their entire career.

It was a fight against the perception
of...

what an American wrestling champion was
supposed to look like.

And that is what made this Rumble match
so poignant.

Rey Mysterio dedicated his matchup to
his late great friend, Eddie Guerrero.

Rey Mysterio! He did it! He did it! He
did it! He did it! No way! Rey Mysterio

did it!

The explosion of the fans.

This was a picture -perfect moment.

It was such a great moment that I had to
let Eddie know.

It was not just one person, it was two.
I couldn't see the other one, but he

knew he was there.

Rey Mysterio carries the soul of Eddie
Guerrero to one more WrestleMania main

event. Shakespeare.

It's a beautiful play unfolding right in
front of your very eyes.

It's beautiful.

It's great, bud!

And you know the late, great Eddie
Guerrero, Cole, is looking down upon

he's so proud.

Winning that title at WrestleMania 22
was the peak of my career and

a tribute to Eddie because Eddie would
have loved

to have seen me as a champion.

I think it really hit him when he got
home because I would just see him

at the title.

It wasn't real to him, but it was real
for us,

and it was really cool to see.

To me, it's one of the toughest things
that a person could be asked to do.

Ray has to carry the legacy of Eddie
Guerrero.

that's virtually impossible to do.

And Ray did it. And Ray did it
magnificently.

You know, if Eddie Guerrero's looking
down, brother, he's smiling from ear to

ear.

We're at the cemetery where Eddie is
sleeping profoundly, and it hurts.

It really hurts.

I'd rather keep the nice memories in my
head and in my heart.

I miss you.

And I wish you were still here.

And I know you would be so proud of
Dominic.

We talk about you all the time.

You've inspired so many of us.

I feel at peace right now.

The way I had a sense of happiness.

He's constantly in my heart and in my
mind. And, you know,

it's not a day that passes that I don't
think about him.

Amen.

I love these two men so much. I don't
mean loved as in past tense.

I just mean they are beloved to me.

We just felt such a connection.

I don't even know how to explain that
feeling. Like, oh, I'm going to get

up. That's okay.

These were Latin American men who
brought Lucha Libre to the mainstream

it work. And I don't think any other two
men could have pulled off what they

did.

Ray Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero are two of
the best. Not in the business today.

It's just two of the best ever.

They change the game. You know, they
inspire so many people to be larger than

life.

When you have two guys like that that
just want to give their very best to the

fans, you know, you can't go wrong.

Deep down inside, you're thinking of all
these moments, and it's making every

time we step in the ring just mean that
much more.

We both love to deliver.

And what better way than to do it with
your best friend, with your brother?