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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,167 --> 00:00:04,170 [♪ eerie music playing] 2 00:00:56,848 --> 00:00:57,849 [clicking] 3 00:01:04,981 --> 00:01:07,984 [♪ intense music playing] 4 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:15,492 We have almost two dozen young women dead, the victims of the Green River Killer. 5 00:01:17,118 --> 00:01:20,246 [William Birnes] The whole premise was using one killer 6 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:21,498 to catch another killer. 7 00:01:22,123 --> 00:01:24,167 It had never been done before. 8 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:28,505 And that became The Silence of the Lambs. 9 00:01:37,263 --> 00:01:40,266 [♪ intense music continues] 10 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,043 Less than six hours from now, 11 00:02:07,127 --> 00:02:10,338 accused mass murderer Ted Bundy is scheduled to be executed 12 00:02:10,421 --> 00:02:11,589 in a Florida prison. 13 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:21,558 [♪ intense music playing] 14 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:33,236 [♪ dark music playing] 15 00:02:42,078 --> 00:02:45,832 [Bob Keppel] In 1988, the Green River case was six years old, 16 00:02:46,416 --> 00:02:48,543 and the killer was still on the loose. 17 00:02:49,043 --> 00:02:51,754 Ted Bundy asked for another interview with me. 18 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:53,173 His appeals were running out, 19 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:56,259 and his life was being measured in months, if not weeks. 20 00:02:56,926 --> 00:03:00,847 He was looking for a way out, or at least more time. 21 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:02,974 [reporter] Convicted killer, Ted Bundy 22 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:05,476 is one step closer to the electric chair now. 23 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:10,481 [Bob Keppel] Ted said he wanted to teach me how to interview serial killers, 24 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:13,318 which was a lie, of course. 25 00:03:13,401 --> 00:03:15,778 But, if I could get him to confess 26 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:20,158 to the eight unsolved 1974 murders in Washington, 27 00:03:21,284 --> 00:03:22,577 I'd play his game. 28 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:25,455 I had a plan to draw him out 29 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:29,918 and ask him under what circumstances a convicted killer like himself 30 00:03:30,001 --> 00:03:31,753 would talk about his crimes. 31 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:35,882 [Dave Keppel] Ted Bundy was trying to manipulate. 32 00:03:35,965 --> 00:03:37,383 He wanted to be kept alive 33 00:03:37,467 --> 00:03:39,844 with the little bits of information he would get out. 34 00:03:41,429 --> 00:03:45,391 I think Dad just immediately knew that it was a manipulation. 35 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:49,187 [Bob Keppel] Like my partner Dave Reichert used to say, 36 00:03:50,021 --> 00:03:53,608 sometimes you have to be the best friend in the world 37 00:03:53,691 --> 00:03:56,152 to a person you absolutely hate. 38 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:39,487 [♪ dark music playing] 39 00:04:39,570 --> 00:04:42,198 [film strip whirring] 40 00:04:43,157 --> 00:04:45,118 [reporter] Convicted kidnapper, Theodore Bundy 41 00:04:45,201 --> 00:04:46,828 is on his way to Aspen, Colorado, 42 00:04:46,911 --> 00:04:49,747 where he will stand trial for first-degree murder. 43 00:04:50,373 --> 00:04:53,626 He'd been extradited to defend himself in the Caryn Campbell killing 44 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:56,587 and about to be indicted in Colorado. 45 00:04:56,671 --> 00:04:59,507 This is after he was already charged with the crime in Utah. 46 00:05:00,675 --> 00:05:03,261 [reporter] Bundy, who was serving a one to 15-year term 47 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:04,387 at the Utah State Prison 48 00:05:04,470 --> 00:05:06,764 for his kidnapping conviction of Carol DaRonch. 49 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:13,229 [Birnes] When they got the two notices from Colorado and Utah, 50 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:14,314 they were thrilled. 51 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:17,275 That was it. They had their guy. 52 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:20,903 [♪ tense music playing] 53 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:24,866 Good evening, convicted Utah kidnapper, Theodore Bundy has escaped 54 00:05:24,949 --> 00:05:27,660 from an Aspen, Colorado courtroom 55 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:31,080 and remains, at this hour, the subject of a manhunt. 56 00:05:31,789 --> 00:05:35,209 He always struck up a comradery with his jailers 57 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:37,003 and with the people who were charged with him. 58 00:05:37,086 --> 00:05:40,631 And so, he was in this courthouse and gained the trust of these guys 59 00:05:40,715 --> 00:05:44,010 who eventually sort of let him wander farther and farther away. 60 00:05:44,093 --> 00:05:46,054 That law library was on the second floor, 61 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:49,098 and at one point, he turned the corner, he disappeared, 62 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:50,224 he was off. 63 00:05:50,975 --> 00:05:52,477 [Bob Keppel] Out of sight of his guard, 64 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,896 Bundy jumped out of the second-story window. 65 00:05:55,730 --> 00:05:59,942 The authorities launched one of the largest manhunts ever in the area, 66 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:04,489 leaving the small-town community in total shock and disbelief. 67 00:06:04,572 --> 00:06:07,784 Jumping from the courthouse window during the day was just-- 68 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:09,369 You know, it's hard to believe. 69 00:06:09,452 --> 00:06:11,871 Of course, I didn't think, "Alright, yay, he escaped!" 70 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:14,582 And I also did not think to myself, 71 00:06:14,665 --> 00:06:17,001 "Well, shoot, then that's kind of an admission of guilt," 72 00:06:17,752 --> 00:06:19,087 which basically it is. 73 00:06:19,837 --> 00:06:24,092 [Bob Keppel] I was 1,200 miles away, powerless and bewildered. 74 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:29,472 The most dangerous man in America, and they couldn't keep him behind bars. 75 00:06:30,681 --> 00:06:33,184 A wave of dread washed over me. 76 00:06:35,978 --> 00:06:37,772 [reporter] After six days, they got him. 77 00:06:37,855 --> 00:06:40,191 Bundy's plan to escape through the wilderness failed. 78 00:06:40,274 --> 00:06:41,275 He broke into a cabin, 79 00:06:41,359 --> 00:06:44,070 then tried to make a break for it in a stolen Cadillac, 80 00:06:44,153 --> 00:06:45,571 and was caught in Aspen. 81 00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:47,407 Back in the hands of authorities that night, 82 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:49,283 Bundy put on a cocky smile. 83 00:06:50,326 --> 00:06:52,537 [Bob Keppel] Bundy was taken to Glenwood Springs Jail, 84 00:06:52,620 --> 00:06:55,748 where he would be held during his trial in Aspen. 85 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:59,001 [reporter 1] Judge George Lohr advised him of additional charges: 86 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:03,965 escape, second-degree burglary, misdemeanor theft, and a felony theft. 87 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:05,925 -[reporter 2] Hi, Ted. -How you doing? 88 00:07:06,008 --> 00:07:08,302 -[reporter 2] Good, how are you? -Uh, I'm here. 89 00:07:11,222 --> 00:07:13,433 [Bob Keppel] But then, the unthinkable happened. 90 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:15,309 [♪ dramatic sting] 91 00:07:15,393 --> 00:07:20,398 Bundy celebrated New Year's Eve by escaping... again. 92 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:27,071 [♪ tense music playing] 93 00:07:55,975 --> 00:07:58,561 [♪ tense music playing] 94 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:03,441 [phone ringing] 95 00:08:06,819 --> 00:08:10,490 [Bob Keppel] I'll never forget the call I got from the Salt Lake City investigator 96 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:13,951 who said, "The son of a bitch escaped again." 97 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:17,997 I was beyond angry, 98 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,169 and before I knew it, I had stood up and was gripping the edge of my desk. 99 00:08:23,252 --> 00:08:27,006 How could this happen, again? 100 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:31,594 [reporter] Bundy was being held here in the Garfield County Jail 101 00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:36,766 because it is modern and said to be much more secure than facilities in Aspen. 102 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:39,143 [Steven Winn] He plotted very carefully what he was gonna do. 103 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:40,853 He lost 35 pounds, 104 00:08:40,937 --> 00:08:44,023 scoped out the plate in the ceiling that he could remove. 105 00:08:44,106 --> 00:08:47,318 He determined where that was going to lead him. 106 00:08:47,401 --> 00:08:48,653 He did it on New Year's Eve, 107 00:08:48,736 --> 00:08:50,738 knowing that defenses were gonna be down. 108 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:53,449 [Bob Keppel] Bundy then crawled along the attic 109 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:55,910 through a maze of wires and pipes, 110 00:08:55,993 --> 00:08:57,578 dropped into an empty office, 111 00:08:57,662 --> 00:09:01,082 grabbed two guns and walked out the door. 112 00:09:01,916 --> 00:09:05,753 The fact that he escaped a second time remains a sort of moral failing 113 00:09:05,836 --> 00:09:07,838 on the part of the authorities. 114 00:09:08,464 --> 00:09:10,758 [Kathleen McChesney] It was very unfortunate for law enforcement 115 00:09:10,841 --> 00:09:12,176 there in Colorado. 116 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,053 It wasn't a good moment for them. 117 00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:16,347 [Bob Keppel] Every minute he was loose 118 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:19,267 was another moment of danger for everyone around him. 119 00:09:19,850 --> 00:09:24,438 Who knew what this psychopath would do to avoid capture? 120 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:26,649 He knew that the police departments 121 00:09:26,732 --> 00:09:29,318 wouldn't necessarily coordinate about these things. 122 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:32,697 They're famously adversarial with each other and competitive. 123 00:09:33,447 --> 00:09:36,617 [Bob Keppel] This lack of cooperation between police agencies 124 00:09:36,701 --> 00:09:39,036 had already allowed Bundy to get away with murder 125 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,248 in Washington, Utah, and Colorado. 126 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:47,253 The FBI took over the search and issued a fugitive warrant for Bundy. 127 00:09:47,336 --> 00:09:49,714 Agents feel the former Utahn is out of Colorado 128 00:09:49,797 --> 00:09:51,424 and possibly even out of the country. 129 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:55,803 [reporter] At this point, with almost nothing to go on, 130 00:09:55,886 --> 00:09:57,972 the bureau needs all the help it can get. 131 00:09:58,055 --> 00:10:02,226 [♪ intense music playing] 132 00:10:04,937 --> 00:10:07,940 [♪ dark, ominous music playing] 133 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,209 [thudding] 134 00:11:05,831 --> 00:11:07,750 [McChesney] If he came back to Washington State, 135 00:11:07,833 --> 00:11:12,129 it was a state he was very familiar with, probably knew places to hide. 136 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:15,800 And on the other hand, he was not a stupid fellow. 137 00:11:15,883 --> 00:11:16,884 [camera clicks] 138 00:11:17,843 --> 00:11:18,928 To go somewhere else 139 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:23,015 where his picture hadn't been on the front page of the paper numerous times 140 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:24,517 where he would just be unknown 141 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,769 was probably the wiser move. 142 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:29,271 We always believed that he would go 143 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:33,984 to a place that was more urban and had a college campus, 144 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:36,612 because he was very comfortable in that environment. 145 00:11:37,571 --> 00:11:39,448 [Bob Keppel] Ted saw a news report of his escape 146 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:42,493 while he was staying at the Ann Arbor, Michigan YMCA. 147 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,787 The walls were closing in. 148 00:11:45,287 --> 00:11:47,540 He was desperate, running out of money. 149 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,126 He stole a car and headed south. 150 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,880 He's driving across the whole country to Florida. 151 00:11:56,382 --> 00:12:00,511 He's hungry. His hormones are driving him crazy. 152 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:02,430 What's in Florida? 153 00:12:03,013 --> 00:12:06,475 Just like University of Washington: sorority houses. 154 00:12:13,941 --> 00:12:16,777 [Kathy Kleiner Rubin] My parents lived in Miami. 155 00:12:16,861 --> 00:12:22,658 And I found that Florida State University was as far away from Miami as I could get 156 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:24,702 and still pay in-state tuition. 157 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:26,912 [♪ dramatic, tense music playing] 158 00:12:26,996 --> 00:12:29,457 As a freshman, I had lived in a dorm. 159 00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:35,129 My parents were very adamant that I get out of the dormitory. 160 00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:37,298 They felt it wasn't safe enough for me. 161 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:40,301 So, that's when they chose Chi Omega. 162 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:46,599 I got to move in in the fall of my sophomore year. 163 00:12:47,683 --> 00:12:52,605 In the sorority house, there were 40 women who actually had rooms 164 00:12:52,688 --> 00:12:54,023 and slept in the house. 165 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:58,986 I had a roommate, and our room was on the second floor, 166 00:12:59,069 --> 00:13:01,781 and it faced the back of the parking lot. 167 00:13:03,073 --> 00:13:05,701 [Bob Keppel] No one knew that Bundy was in Tallahassee 168 00:13:06,535 --> 00:13:08,871 renting a room just a few blocks away. 169 00:13:10,331 --> 00:13:11,916 [insects chirring] 170 00:13:11,999 --> 00:13:15,628 [Kleiner Rubin] January 14th, I'll never forget that night. 171 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:18,088 [♪ tense music playing] 172 00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:20,716 [♪ dramatic sting] 173 00:13:22,843 --> 00:13:26,514 Around 11:30, my roommate and I decided to go to bed. 174 00:13:27,556 --> 00:13:30,684 So, we turned off the lights, and we both went to sleep. 175 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:36,774 And then, I heard a noise in the room. 176 00:13:37,441 --> 00:13:42,446 And that noise was the door swishing over the carpet when it opened. 177 00:13:43,906 --> 00:13:45,449 And I didn't have my glasses on. 178 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:48,536 So, all I saw was a blur. 179 00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:51,622 And I saw him raise his hand... 180 00:13:51,872 --> 00:13:52,873 [thuds] 181 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:57,670 ...and he slammed it down on my face so hard 182 00:13:57,753 --> 00:14:00,005 that he broke my jaw in three places. 183 00:14:00,214 --> 00:14:02,216 [♪ dramatic music playing] 184 00:14:05,386 --> 00:14:09,849 He cut open my cheek, exposed the inside of my mouth. 185 00:14:10,432 --> 00:14:12,226 I almost bit my tongue off. 186 00:14:12,893 --> 00:14:16,564 And the lacerations went down into my neck. 187 00:14:17,773 --> 00:14:19,275 It hurt so bad, 188 00:14:19,358 --> 00:14:24,154 and it shot daggers and knives into my whole face. 189 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,702 And then this person went to my roommate. 190 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:33,330 [♪ dramatic music continues] 191 00:14:34,164 --> 00:14:35,416 He attacked her. 192 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:38,085 [thudding] 193 00:14:38,168 --> 00:14:42,298 And in the meantime, I'm awake, and I'm trying to make noise. 194 00:14:43,382 --> 00:14:45,426 And I knew he was gonna kill me. 195 00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:48,762 And just as he was in my room, raising his arm up, 196 00:14:49,471 --> 00:14:53,058 a car was returning a sorority sister home that night. 197 00:14:55,019 --> 00:14:56,687 It just illuminated the room. 198 00:14:57,354 --> 00:14:59,189 And he then ran out my door. 199 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:03,861 [♪ dark tones playing] 200 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:08,407 Frightened co-eds at Florida State University in Tallahassee 201 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:10,492 walked to class in groups today 202 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:12,369 while detectives tried to track a man 203 00:15:12,453 --> 00:15:15,122 who slipped into a sorority house early yesterday 204 00:15:15,205 --> 00:15:16,415 and murdered two women. 205 00:15:16,498 --> 00:15:17,499 [camera clicking] 206 00:15:17,791 --> 00:15:19,084 [Bob Keppel] Armed with an oak log, 207 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:23,172 Bundy clubbed and strangled to death 20-year-old Lisa Levy 208 00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:25,841 and 21-year-old Margaret Bowman. 209 00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:27,551 [camera clicking] 210 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:31,639 He then brutally beat three more of the sleeping co-eds, 211 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,725 including Karen Chandler and Kathy Kleiner. 212 00:15:35,309 --> 00:15:37,603 It was kind of a replay of Lake Sammamish, 213 00:15:37,686 --> 00:15:39,980 'cause there were A, multiple victims, 214 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:43,651 and B, there was 30-some women sleeping at a sorority house. 215 00:15:44,818 --> 00:15:47,112 He was unraveling. 216 00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:48,822 He couldn't keep it together anymore. 217 00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:51,241 [♪ dramatic, tense music playing] 218 00:15:51,325 --> 00:15:57,039 I believe that was his, "Here I am. Why can't this be stopped?" You know? 219 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:03,379 [muffled fighting] 220 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:10,844 [♪ dark music playing] 221 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:16,141 [reporter] The killer came in from the night 222 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:20,229 and then returned to it with an ease that has so far baffled the police 223 00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:22,731 and left most co-eds here terrified. 224 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,069 [Ken Katsaris] Yeah, I started thinking about my own daughter. 225 00:16:27,152 --> 00:16:32,324 So, I determined, as the sheriff, and with the authority to do so, 226 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:36,704 that the sheriff's office would be the lead investigative agency 227 00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:38,914 to solve this case 228 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:42,876 and bring that person to the ultimate justice, 229 00:16:43,544 --> 00:16:46,797 which would be the death penalty which was authorized in Florida. 230 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,132 [♪ dark music playing] 231 00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:51,468 [film strip whirring] 232 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:55,097 [Bob Keppel] Just like Bundy, 233 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:57,933 the longer the Green River Killer was free, 234 00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:01,145 the more comfortable he was with his urge to kill. 235 00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:03,397 [reporter] Over the last several months, 236 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,900 police have set up a 37-member Green River Task Force, 237 00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:09,528 but officials say the case is difficult to solve 238 00:17:09,611 --> 00:17:13,532 because in general, mass murderers don't leave much evidence behind 239 00:17:13,615 --> 00:17:16,744 and because not much is known about their motivations. 240 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:20,330 [♪ dark music playing] 241 00:17:20,414 --> 00:17:22,416 [inmates chattering] 242 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:38,474 [Bob Keppel] Ted opened the door to a place we desperately wanted to explore: 243 00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:41,060 the source of that urge to kill. 244 00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:49,068 [Bob Keppel] Ted cleared his throat and placed his finger alongside his head 245 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:51,945 as if he were winding up for a long lecture. 246 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:55,741 This was something he wanted to talk about, 247 00:17:55,824 --> 00:17:57,868 at least in the third person. 248 00:19:10,357 --> 00:19:13,026 [film strip whirring] 249 00:19:15,487 --> 00:19:18,490 [Roger Dunn] We heard about the Chi Omega case on the news, 250 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:24,163 and Kathy, and Bob, and I looked at each other 251 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:26,915 and thought, "Bundy's in Florida." 252 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:31,753 [Bob Keppel] Ted went on the run after the sorority house attacks. 253 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:34,047 For the next two weeks, he drove around Florida 254 00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:36,967 in a desperate attempt to elude the police. 255 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:40,429 If you've ever watched, uh, The Andy Griffith Show, 256 00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:43,307 Lake City was not quite Mayberry, 257 00:19:43,390 --> 00:19:44,641 but it was close. 258 00:19:45,934 --> 00:19:48,270 Kids go anywhere they wanted to. 259 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:51,648 They'd, uh, ride their bicycles all over town. 260 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:56,695 Doors were not locked, and houses, you know, no big deal. 261 00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,697 That's-- That's not that way anymore. 262 00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:03,202 And what started changing it was, uh, this-- this mess with Ted Bundy. 263 00:20:04,661 --> 00:20:06,371 [Bob Keppel] Bundy arrived in Lake City. 264 00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:09,708 And on the morning of February 9th, 1978, 265 00:20:09,791 --> 00:20:12,544 he spotted a girl walking behind a building 266 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:14,171 at her junior high school. 267 00:20:16,423 --> 00:20:20,344 [Bob Dekle] Kim was a, uh, 12-year-old girl at Lake City Junior High. 268 00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:27,601 And in the first period, somebody found a, uh, pocketbook. 269 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:32,272 And one of the girls says, "That-- that's, uh, Kim Leach's purse." 270 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,276 Kim went back, picks it up, walks out the door, 271 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:40,489 and, for all practical purposes, just fell off the face of the earth. 272 00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:43,742 [♪ unsettling music playing] 273 00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:47,996 [♪ eerie musical vocalizing] 274 00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:06,390 [Bob Keppel] Paramedics reported 275 00:21:06,473 --> 00:21:10,269 a man leading a girl away from the school by the arm. 276 00:21:10,352 --> 00:21:12,980 [♪ unsettling music and eerie vocalizing continue] 277 00:21:18,485 --> 00:21:21,905 It was the last time anyone would see Kimberly alive. 278 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:27,869 [♪ music fades out] 279 00:21:28,495 --> 00:21:31,957 [♪ dark, tense music playing] 280 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:34,793 [Dekle] You know, when Kim went missing, 281 00:21:34,876 --> 00:21:40,757 from day one, law enforcement knew that, uh, she was not a runaway, 282 00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:44,636 that more than likely somebody had snatched her. 283 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:49,391 So, there was a huge effort among the three local agencies 284 00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,518 to find Kim Leach. 285 00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:56,273 [reporter] Theodore George Bundy was arrested on Wednesday 286 00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:57,858 while driving a stolen car. 287 00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:02,070 But yesterday, it was discovered he was on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list, 288 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:06,116 who's suspected of 36 rape-murders in several Western states. 289 00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:08,910 [Dekle] I'd never heard of Ted Bundy. 290 00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:13,874 Uh, I don't think anybody in law enforcement in Florida 291 00:22:13,957 --> 00:22:15,500 had ever heard of Ted Bundy. 292 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,545 [reporter] Among the first to arrive to question Bundy 293 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:21,173 were these detectives from Tallahassee, Florida. 294 00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:25,510 At a point, Ted Bundy says to the investigators, 295 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:27,804 "You don't know who you have in custody." 296 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:31,099 Our ears perked up and said, "Wait a minute." 297 00:22:31,183 --> 00:22:34,019 I knew that this was unfolding rapidly, 298 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:37,606 so we went and, uh, started the investigation. 299 00:22:39,983 --> 00:22:42,986 [McChesney] We believed that there was a real possibility 300 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:46,073 that Ted Bundy was responsible for those cases. 301 00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:50,786 [Dunn] Bob stayed in contact with those people in Florida 302 00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:54,289 offering any assistance or anything that he could remember. 303 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:57,084 I think Bob kept a lot of his notes. 304 00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:58,919 Fortunately, the state of Florida 305 00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:01,838 got the pound of flesh that everybody wanted. 306 00:23:06,009 --> 00:23:07,219 [♪ dark music playing] 307 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:10,180 [film strip whirring] 308 00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:15,852 [Bob Keppel] When police in Pensacola, Florida arrested Bundy, 309 00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:19,231 they'd captured a criminal type they'd never seen before: 310 00:23:19,314 --> 00:23:23,318 an alleged serial killer on the FBI's Most Wanted list, 311 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:26,405 a suspect in more than 25 murders. 312 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:29,199 And Bundy was soon their prime suspect 313 00:23:29,282 --> 00:23:31,993 in the Kimberly Leach missing persons case. 314 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:36,456 [reporter] The badly decomposed body of 12-year-old Kimberly Leach 315 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:40,710 of Lake City, Florida was found under a piece of tin in an old hog shed, 316 00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:44,131 40 miles from where she was abducted on February 9th. 317 00:23:45,382 --> 00:23:48,218 [Dekle] The body been placed under a shed. 318 00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:51,888 And I got down and I saw Kim, and I saw her clothing, 319 00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:55,308 and I said, "You know, here we are, we found her." 320 00:23:56,226 --> 00:24:03,108 Then the crime scene crew worked the scene and found a treasure trove of evidence. 321 00:24:03,191 --> 00:24:06,653 And, uh, there was-- you know, we had no question who'd-- 322 00:24:06,736 --> 00:24:09,364 uh, that, uh, Bundy was guilty 323 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,324 and no question that we could prove it. 324 00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:12,409 [camera clicks] 325 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:16,121 [Winn] He had stolen a van from Florida State and driven over there, 326 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,667 and there were all sorts of hair samples and blood 327 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:23,628 and the leaves that matched where she was found. 328 00:24:23,712 --> 00:24:26,673 It was just a traveling van of probative evidence 329 00:24:26,756 --> 00:24:30,177 that was-- that was gonna convict him, which he surely knew by then. 330 00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:38,477 He arrived at the Leon County Jail and I was there waiting for him. 331 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,064 I put my hand on his bicep and I told him, "You aren't going anywhere." 332 00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,150 Step out, Mr. Bundy. 333 00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:48,570 [reporter] In an unusual setting, Bundy was informed of the charges 334 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:50,989 as he stepped from the jailhouse elevator. 335 00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:53,116 [Ted Bundy] Yeah, let's see. Oh, it's saying an indictment. 336 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,076 Alright, why don't you read it to me? 337 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,245 [Winn] Ken Katsaris relished this. 338 00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:58,622 Katsaris made a show of it. 339 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:01,750 He invited the press. There were video cameras there. 340 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:03,168 My chance to talk to the press-- 341 00:25:03,251 --> 00:25:06,087 [Katsaris] "Contrary to Section 782.04, Florida statute." 342 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:07,756 I'll plead not guilty right now. 343 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,675 You know, Katsaris was a showman and Bundy was a showman 344 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,177 and they were in competition. 345 00:25:13,386 --> 00:25:15,889 He and Bundy were serious adversaries. 346 00:25:15,972 --> 00:25:18,266 [Bundy] You're on the ballot for election, aren't you? 347 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:20,769 -Mr. Bundy-- Mr. Bundy-- -You finally got it, didn't you? 348 00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:22,854 Told them that-- you told them that you were gonna get me. 349 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:24,022 He said he was gonna get me. 350 00:25:24,105 --> 00:25:27,025 Okay, you've got the indictment. It's all you're gonna get. 351 00:25:27,108 --> 00:25:28,527 Let's read it. Let's go. 352 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:33,740 We locked him up under circumstances that were tighter than anybody else. 353 00:25:33,823 --> 00:25:36,868 He was in a solid cell for four people 354 00:25:37,452 --> 00:25:38,453 by himself. 355 00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,414 At that time, I had my investigators there, 356 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:45,252 and he was acting weird and had special requirements. 357 00:25:45,335 --> 00:25:48,046 He wanted to be interviewed by a window. 358 00:25:48,129 --> 00:25:50,215 He wanted to be able to see the full moon. 359 00:25:50,298 --> 00:25:52,759 And he had all these special requests. 360 00:25:52,842 --> 00:25:54,844 And I-- I was getting a little irritated 361 00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:57,973 because they were not getting any information from him. 362 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:03,270 [Bob Keppel] Now, at last, Ted Bundy was back behind bars, 363 00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:05,855 and after just a few hours in jail, 364 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:09,859 he was especially vulnerable and willing to talk. 365 00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,988 [♪ dark music playing] 366 00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:18,994 [♪ dark, tense music playing] 367 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:47,355 [Bob Keppel] I knew what Bundy meant. 368 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:51,067 Serial killers are unlike any other type of criminals. 369 00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:53,069 They're battle-hardened. 370 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:57,407 They can stand up to interrogators looking for a quick confession, 371 00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:02,329 and they know more about serial murder than almost any detective. 372 00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,748 [Louis Schlesinger] He doesn't want publicity. 373 00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:48,667 He wants to keep quiet. Really? 374 00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:52,587 Why did you represent yourself pro se with the cameras on there 375 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,963 if you don't want publicity? 376 00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,882 He absolutely wanted publicity, 377 00:27:55,965 --> 00:27:59,678 because it feeds in to another personality trait that he has, 378 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,346 which is narcissism. 379 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:05,600 He wants to be the center of attention to everybody. 380 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,269 [♪ dark music playing] 381 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:10,021 [crowd chattering] 382 00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:13,316 [Bob Keppel] More than 20 television stations 383 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,068 set up in a Miami courthouse 384 00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:18,446 for the trial of the former law student and accused killer 385 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:20,198 as he led his own defense. 386 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:24,703 This was the first criminal case ever televised. 387 00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:27,205 It was actually fascinating to watch. 388 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:29,624 The Bundy trial has drawn a lot of attention, 389 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,209 partly because of who he is, 390 00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:34,087 a mysterious former law student with a charming air in court, 391 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:37,048 and partly because of the crimes he is accused of committing. 392 00:28:38,341 --> 00:28:42,095 [Bob Keppel] His Florida trial gave Bundy center stage. 393 00:28:42,178 --> 00:28:45,890 It was a showcase for his grandiosity, bravado, 394 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:47,767 and overinflated ego. 395 00:28:48,476 --> 00:28:52,063 In court, Ted Bundy ended up being his own attorney, 396 00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:56,109 asking questions of both the victims of his crime 397 00:28:56,192 --> 00:28:58,278 as well as witnesses. 398 00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:02,157 [Winn] He was a terrible law student. He never finished law school. 399 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,241 Judge Cowart said, 400 00:29:03,324 --> 00:29:06,411 "Well, you defend yourself, you got a fool for a client." [chuckles] 401 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:13,376 [Winn] There were times in the courtroom when he looked lifeless and bereft. 402 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:16,004 There was a kind of a dead-behind-the-eyes quality. 403 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:22,177 [Bob Keppel] Outside the courtroom, Bundy's mystique was growing. 404 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:24,012 There were Bundy souvenirs, 405 00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:25,805 Bundy memorabilia, 406 00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:28,141 even Bundy fan clubs. 407 00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:31,561 [Katherine Ramsland] Ted Bundy has gotten the most media attention. 408 00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:38,151 He had charisma, he did a lot of representing himself to the media. 409 00:29:38,234 --> 00:29:41,988 I think Bundy's just become the most visible of serial killers. 410 00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:44,783 When you think of the phrase "serial killer," 411 00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:47,911 that's the person that most often springs to mind. 412 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:53,041 [reporter] What is unusual to see is that many of the onlookers are women, 413 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:56,419 young women, contemporaries of the five Florida State sorority sisters 414 00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:59,255 who were assaulted in their beds a year and a half ago. 415 00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:01,508 Every time he turns around, I kinda get that feeling, 416 00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:04,344 "Oh, no," you know? [chuckles] "Gonna get me next." 417 00:30:04,427 --> 00:30:06,179 [reporter] But, yet you're fascinated by it. 418 00:30:06,262 --> 00:30:07,263 Very, very. 419 00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:11,726 [Kleiner Rubin] The public is interested and fascinated by Ted Bundy. 420 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:13,478 How could he be a serial killer? 421 00:30:13,561 --> 00:30:16,523 People look at him and think, "Oh, he's just a normal guy. 422 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:19,526 He went to law school," and you know, all this stuff. 423 00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:23,238 He doesn't have horns and he doesn't look like a devil, 424 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:24,322 but he was. 425 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:26,658 [♪ dark, unsettling music playing] 426 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:33,164 When it was my day to testify, I put on this bright red dress, 427 00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:34,916 and I went to the courtroom. 428 00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:37,752 I saw Ted Bundy. 429 00:30:38,753 --> 00:30:41,422 He was sitting there staring at me, 430 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:43,758 and I stared at him. 431 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:46,427 And then when I was through with my testimony, 432 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,471 I was walked back out of the court, 433 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:50,139 and I felt I was gonna throw up. 434 00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:54,477 The whole process had just hit me, 435 00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:58,064 and-- and I understood everything that had happened 436 00:30:58,147 --> 00:31:02,151 and that my part of the story now was over 437 00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:07,866 and I had done the best I could to help in prosecuting him. 438 00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:12,161 [reporter] The jury took little time finalizing its decision. 439 00:31:12,245 --> 00:31:16,416 The scramble was on to beam the news by satellite across Florida 440 00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:20,086 and west to Seattle, Salt Lake City, and Denver. 441 00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:22,005 [Judge Edward Cowart] Count Three of the information, 442 00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:25,341 a jury of your peers, having found you guilty of Murder in the First Degree 443 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,302 of this court, adjudged you guilty. 444 00:31:28,595 --> 00:31:30,054 [♪ dramatic music plays] 445 00:31:33,182 --> 00:31:36,060 [♪ dark, tense music playing] 446 00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:42,233 In Miami, Theodore Bundy has been sentenced to die in the electric chair 447 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:44,527 for the murder of two Florida sorority sisters. 448 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,864 [Judge Cowart] It is further ordered that on such scheduled date 449 00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:49,365 that you be put to death. 450 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:51,409 [Winn] After he was sentenced, 451 00:31:51,492 --> 00:31:55,246 he told Judge Edward Cowart, "I'm not asking for mercy. 452 00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:59,125 I find it somewhat absurd to ask for mercy for something I did not do." 453 00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:02,879 [Bundy] So, I will be tortured for and will suffer for 454 00:32:02,962 --> 00:32:04,797 and receive the pain for that act, 455 00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:11,304 but I will not share the burden or the guilt. 456 00:32:12,221 --> 00:32:14,515 [Bob Keppel] Ted's denials were true to form, 457 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,185 his usual mix of arrogance and lies. 458 00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:18,978 It left a bitter taste, 459 00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:22,023 but what did I expect from this wormy psychopath? 460 00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:24,359 The truth? Remorse? 461 00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:25,443 Never. 462 00:32:26,277 --> 00:32:29,447 [film strip whirring] 463 00:32:31,407 --> 00:32:33,993 After less than seven hours of deliberation, 464 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:39,332 the jury finds Bundy guilty of kidnapping and murdering Kimberly Leach. 465 00:32:39,415 --> 00:32:42,377 The judge hands down Bundy's second death sentence. 466 00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,087 -Get off! -[lawyer] Wait a minute. Judge-- 467 00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:45,588 Let go of me. 468 00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,090 We're gonna go up to the holdings. 469 00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:48,508 [lawyer] The court be in recess. 470 00:32:49,175 --> 00:32:52,553 [Dekle] After the dust had settled and the smoke had cleared, 471 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:57,058 the awful nature of what had happened really hit me. 472 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,812 They had just published a picture of her in a paper. 473 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:03,856 Thinking about that, 474 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:08,611 thinking about what awful things had happened to her, 475 00:33:09,904 --> 00:33:11,072 I cried. 476 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:17,745 Uh, I got psychological scars from that that, uh, I'll carry to my grave. 477 00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:20,707 [reporter] The jury deliberated about 45 minutes. 478 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:22,959 They came back with the decision of death. 479 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:25,378 "And it impose the death penalty upon the defendant, 480 00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:26,796 Theodore Robert Bundy." 481 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:28,798 Tell the jury that they were wrong. 482 00:33:29,757 --> 00:33:31,843 [Bob Keppel] Bundy was now convicted and sentenced, 483 00:33:31,926 --> 00:33:35,013 so I had assumed the story of Ted Bundy would end in Florida. 484 00:33:36,097 --> 00:33:39,350 Fate, however, had charted a different course. 485 00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:42,770 [Dekle] He was getting closer and closer to the end, 486 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:49,360 uh, so he was casting about for excuses to not get the death penalty. 487 00:33:49,444 --> 00:33:54,157 And if he could turn himself into some kind of a, uh, guru 488 00:33:54,824 --> 00:33:57,910 for, uh, helping people solve serial killer cases, 489 00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:02,165 you know, that just might be his ticket to escaping the death penalty. 490 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:05,585 [♪ dark music playing] 491 00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:08,171 [film strip whirring] 492 00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:20,183 [Bob Keppel] Bundy wanted to talk, I agreed, 493 00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:25,104 even though being part of a serial killer's scheme to avoid justice 494 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:27,148 made my skin crawl. 495 00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:36,115 But still, I agreed to meet with him. 496 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:40,495 I believed Bundy's insights into serial killers 497 00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:45,249 could provide valuable information for homicide investigators in the future. 498 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:50,171 Besides, Bundy was behind bars, The Riverman wasn't. 499 00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:56,260 By 1985, he was suspected of killing 42 women. 500 00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:00,807 By the end of the year, the total would be even higher. 501 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:07,313 [reporter] Authorities in Oregon said today 502 00:35:07,396 --> 00:35:10,233 that the bodies of five young women found last week 503 00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,360 may be victims of the Green River Killer. 504 00:35:13,444 --> 00:35:16,322 [Bob Keppel] In 1985, the remains of a young woman 505 00:35:16,405 --> 00:35:19,242 were found near a golf course in Tigard, Oregon. 506 00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:24,330 Investigators suspected she was another victim of The Riverman. 507 00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:29,127 Dental records identified her as 16-year-old Tammie Liles. 508 00:35:29,919 --> 00:35:32,880 Tammie's family reported her missing two years earlier. 509 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:33,965 [camera clicks] 510 00:35:34,048 --> 00:35:36,717 I remember coming in the house from playing outside 511 00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,302 and KING 5 News was on, 512 00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:44,851 and they were showing a Task Force picking up bones in Oregon, 513 00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:48,312 not knowing... that that was our sister, Tammie. 514 00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:51,023 [♪ dark, somber music playing] 515 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:55,653 [John Liles] We got pulled outta school and we went to my mom's office. 516 00:35:55,736 --> 00:35:57,071 She worked at the hospital. 517 00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,906 And when we got there, there were all the police, 518 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:01,325 the sheriffs, and everything, and that's when they told us. 519 00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:02,410 [camera clicks] 520 00:36:02,577 --> 00:36:05,288 [Jason Liles] They were wearing those Green River Task Force jackets. 521 00:36:05,371 --> 00:36:06,414 [siblings] Mm-hmm. 522 00:36:06,497 --> 00:36:08,082 So, once you see that, 523 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,584 -then you kind of think-- -Then you know. 524 00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:12,378 Like, "Okay, now something's really gonna be going on here," you know? 525 00:36:12,461 --> 00:36:15,548 That's when I kinda started thinking about, "Okay, maybe-- 526 00:36:15,631 --> 00:36:17,633 maybe this is what happened to her." 527 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:21,512 [Bob Keppel] Tammie Liles was laid to rest, 528 00:36:22,221 --> 00:36:25,099 but The Green River Killer was still free. 529 00:36:27,393 --> 00:36:28,978 There was no closure, 530 00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:31,147 only questions. 531 00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:39,405 [♪ tense music playing] 532 00:36:39,488 --> 00:36:43,034 [Bob Keppel] By the time Bundy and I sat down in 1988, 533 00:36:43,117 --> 00:36:46,537 he was still appealing his case, but the clock was ticking. 534 00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:51,167 I was flipping back and forth between Ted and The Green River Killer. 535 00:36:52,084 --> 00:36:56,672 After all these years, I now needed Ted to talk about himself. 536 00:36:57,256 --> 00:36:58,424 I played for time, 537 00:36:59,342 --> 00:37:01,510 even when I knew there was no time. 538 00:37:03,429 --> 00:37:04,847 He had to come to me. 539 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:06,766 [♪ tense music continues] 540 00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,434 [Bob Keppel] Ted was talking about himself. 541 00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:53,354 He didn't want to die in the electric chair. 542 00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:57,191 It seemed like he was really close to opening up. 543 00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:00,987 He was wriggling around in his chair like I'd never seen before. 544 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,383 [Bob Keppel] What I didn't know was that the day before, 545 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,553 Ted's attorney had convinced him not to confess to me. 546 00:38:27,054 --> 00:38:29,098 If it hadn't been for his attorney, 547 00:38:29,181 --> 00:38:32,018 I suspect Bundy would've begun telling all. 548 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:38,232 [♪ tense music continues playing] 549 00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:43,070 Keppel thought he had failed with Bundy 550 00:38:43,946 --> 00:38:48,534 because although Bundy had told him a lot, didn't tell him enough. 551 00:38:50,786 --> 00:38:55,207 [Katsaris] He was never going to give us good or valuable information. 552 00:38:55,791 --> 00:38:58,961 The people that were there collecting it, I admire them, 553 00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:01,714 but in my opinion, he was playing them. 554 00:39:02,631 --> 00:39:04,925 And he would continue playing that game, 555 00:39:05,843 --> 00:39:09,221 and to this day, we'd be playing games with Ted Bundy. 556 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,226 Uh, he'd talk till he was blue in the face. 557 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:16,395 He's not gonna do those victim's a bit of good. 558 00:39:16,479 --> 00:39:18,105 They're dead, they're gone. 559 00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:22,234 And, uh, he is breathing good air 560 00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:24,945 that somebody else could be breathing, 561 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:26,697 and he needs to die. 562 00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:29,283 [phone ringing] 563 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,621 [Bob Keppel] I got a call from Bundy's lawyers 564 00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:35,915 asking me to come back to Florida. 565 00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:39,335 [Birnes] Bundy comes up with a strategy. 566 00:39:39,418 --> 00:39:44,840 He says, "If I can tell you stories of my crimes, I can stay alive." 567 00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:49,387 [Winn] You know, he held the cards, he knew everything. 568 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,305 Even as he was awaiting his execution, 569 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:54,809 he had a kind of a power that gratified him. 570 00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:57,061 [♪ dark, tense music playing] 571 00:40:02,858 --> 00:40:05,820 [Bill Hagmaier] There were investigators from four states: 572 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:11,117 Colorado, Utah, Idaho, and, um, Washington. 573 00:40:11,575 --> 00:40:13,702 At that point, I think there were only six days left 574 00:40:13,786 --> 00:40:15,162 before he was going to die. 575 00:40:39,562 --> 00:40:42,022 [Bob Keppel] Was Bundy playing another game? 576 00:40:43,399 --> 00:40:47,027 If so, this time, the game involved his own life. 577 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:49,864 He had just days to live. 578 00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:17,892 [♪ dramatic music plays] 579 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:22,271 [reporter] The latest attempts to spare Bundy 580 00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:24,190 from Florida's electric chair ran their course 581 00:41:24,273 --> 00:41:26,942 when the US Supreme Court refused to hear his case. 582 00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:30,362 [Birnes] His lawyers were going to the Supreme Court. 583 00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:32,907 He says, "I can give you a lot more information 584 00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:34,700 if I can stay alive." 585 00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:37,953 Ted's trying to extend his life. 586 00:41:38,537 --> 00:41:43,125 And he's going to say enough that they're going to go back and say, 587 00:41:43,209 --> 00:41:44,752 "Hey, give him another 90 days." 588 00:41:45,836 --> 00:41:49,131 [reporter] Ted Bundy confessed that he committed at least eight murders 589 00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:50,841 in Washington State. 590 00:42:06,398 --> 00:42:09,235 Keppel wants to solve The Green River murders case. 591 00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:13,906 It was kind of just this legendary case in the office that had never been solved. 592 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,033 [Dave Reichert] It almost seemed like 593 00:42:16,116 --> 00:42:18,911 you're working in the Super Bowl of murder cases, 594 00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:22,456 and someone tells you it's-- it's over and you've lost. 595 00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:26,585 I never had a thought that we weren't gonna catch him. 596 00:42:27,002 --> 00:42:29,755 I just wondered how, when, and where. 597 00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:32,132 And I knew I wanted to be a part of it. 598 00:42:32,758 --> 00:42:34,552 [Patty Eakes] There were a lot more missing women 599 00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:37,471 and he was much more effective at hiding their bodies. 600 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,057 The Supreme Court said, "There's nothing more to be gained, 601 00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:42,601 carry out the sentence." 602 00:42:42,685 --> 00:42:46,313 [Bob Keppel] Come on, partner. These are things I don't know about you. 603 00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:49,108 [reporter] No one could be sure Bundy didn't have 604 00:42:49,191 --> 00:42:51,402 a last trick up his sleeve. 605 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:54,321 [clicking] 606 00:42:54,613 --> 00:42:59,076 [♪ tense music playing] 50984

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