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I've been a wine
professional now for, you know,
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roughly 15 years.
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I've seen thousands of
different grape varieties.
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I've tasted tens of thousands,
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if not hundreds of thousands
of different wines.
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As sommeliers, as wine people,
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we spend a lot of
time looking forward.
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You know, what's--
what's the new cool thing?
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But I think it's equally
as interesting to look back
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and start to understand,
really,
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where did these
things come from.
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Tomorrow morning
I fly to Tehran - Mm-hm.
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and spend the day in Tehran
seeing the wine merchant.
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Checking out the grapes.
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The ancient world of wine
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really centers around modern
day Iran, Armenia, Georgia,
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Caucus Mountains, these places.
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Iran is one of the countries
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considered the birthplace
of the wine, you know.
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They belong to a different club.
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This area
of the world, for wine,
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is really starting to wake up.
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It's an ancient place that's
been sleeping for a long time.
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Is there any concern
with the truckers
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getting the grapes
across the border?
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Yeah, the problem is
they're not eating grapes.
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I mean, as far
Iran is concerned,
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all grapes are eating grapes.
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This is just like one
of the wildest things
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I think that could
ever happen in wine.
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You okay?
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Um well, it's not--
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I'll call you from jail.
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Okay?
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Please don't.
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If you have to call me
from jail, just don't call.
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Okay, I understand.
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The government
has an alcohol ban.
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It's extremely illegal and what
we're doing is very public.
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I mean, a little danger
is fine, I don't mind.
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You know, do I want to go to
prison in Iran or elsewhere?
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Probably not. But anyway,
it'll be fine, yeah.
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- You're okay, you'll be okay.
- Yeah.
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- All right.
- Okay, yeah.
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I'll leave you, let me go.
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I have other things to do.
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- You keep the map.
- Yeah.
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And I'll call you on WhatsApp.
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- Okay.
- Okay, bye.
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Okay? Thanks.
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It's the most dangerous
wine in the world.
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Nice, clear day.
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Look at Ararat, so majestic.
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Noah's Ark, on the mountain,
sat on the Mount Ararat.
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Then Noah came down,
planted vineyard,
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made wine and he got drunk.
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I dunno if you know the story.
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It's in the Bible.
There's no escaping it.
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Hey, Luca, it's me.
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Hi, not too much.
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Is it Hell's Canyon
or Devil's Canyon?
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Hell's Canyon.
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And does the road
go a little bit in
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so we don't hear the car,
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so if we want to shoot,
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is there a road that goes
into the Hell's Canyon?
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No, I'm not gonna
go through the canyon.
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I want to see the canyon,
but not be on the road.
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I want to, so we can
walk a little bit down,
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is that what you're saying?
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All right.
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Okay, all right.
Thanks, honey, okay.
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I'll call you back later, bye.
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The first time I
came here was '97.
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I was born in Syria,
but I grew up in Lebanon.
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But then I went to
Italy when I was 19,
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the first time, a
couple of years,
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fell in love with the country,
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then went to the States,
became serious,
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got my college degree,
then became un-serious,
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opened a restaurant.
You know, that kind of thing.
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I'm Armenian.
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Parents, Armenian,
Armenian school, church,
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everything else was Armenian.
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So we grew up as Armenians
in a host country.
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Lebanon was a host,
Syria was a host country.
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We went, we worked hard,
we did whatever we had to do,
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but we didn't mingle too much.
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When you are always
being pushed around,
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you figure out how to
hang in there, you know,
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how to survive.
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We're always in this
survival mode, you know?
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But the beauty of
being on your own land,
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your own soil, your own country,
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is that in the
context of vineyards,
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you can plant and you don't
have to worry about it
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because you don't worry
that you have to move again.
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We're not moving
anything from now.
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From here, we're
not going anywhere.
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I'm not going anywhere.
My family will be here.
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So the vineyards that
we plant will be here
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for a very long time.
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Yeah, so, sorry,
I didn't know what animal
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was coming behind me.
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What's up, bro? You wanna
be in the video, huh?
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Cute, huh?
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Oh, Aimee would kill for it.
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You know, Aimee has a horse.
She rides a horse, yeah.
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I never call him Dad.
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I never call Vahe Dad.
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Vahe is always Vahe to me.
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We work together. It's Vahe.
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He's a dreamer, romantic type,
but he sees the big picture.
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So I have twins,
Luca and Aimee.
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The first project
that I did in Armenia...
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the first six barrels I made,
I made with Luca, my son.
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You know, he likes it,
he loves drinking it,
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he loves everything about it,
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but he's not into the
wine business per se.
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But somehow she got
attracted to the wine,
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the concept, the vineyards,
the making of the wine,
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the consuming of the
wine, the whole scene.
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I'm Armenian,
I'm half Armenian.
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My father's Armenian.
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My mother is very
New England American.
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I never really felt Armenian
until I came to Armenia
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and started working in wine.
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I graduated college.
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A couple of weeks
before I graduated,
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my father sent me
an email and said,
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"Aimee, would you like
to come work in wine?"
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It took me about five minutes
to answer, and I answered yes.
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And then I came to Armenia
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and that was my first
harvest that fall.
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She really loves it.
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And she started from day one
also to have her own brand.
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This is
about 100 years old.
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It's her own wine.
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She does all the
marketing, the branding,
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the positioning, rather
than work for the father.
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Except for our
sparkling wine project
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that carries our family name
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and that will be
a family brand.
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For me, I think it is, in some
ways, it's a legacy thing.
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So now you have
two generations of Armenians making wine,
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which is pretty amazing
considering how young
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modern wine making
is in Armenia,
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to have a father and daughter
making wine together.
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Of course, Armenians
have been making wine
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for thousands of years,
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but it's been interrupted
for the past 100.
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Vines are not like tomatoes.
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Vines are two or three
generation crops.
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A vine will live until
it's 70, 100 years old.
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And vines have to struggle
to survive. So do people.
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Armenia is situated
in the Caucasus Mountains.
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We're surrounded by Azerbaijan,
Georgia, Turkey, Iran.
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We are situated
in the highlands,
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so everything is high elevation.
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We sit in this mountaintop.
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It's a nation that has this advantage today
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of being a global nation.
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I mean, Armenians
were always tradesman,
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because we lived
on the crossroads
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of different civilizations.
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As being a crossroads
of civilization,
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it has a very old culture.
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That culture is
about architecture...
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because Armenia was
one of the first
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to adopt
Christian architecture.
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It was the first state
kingdom that became Christian
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in the year 301.
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Armenians,
we have a sense of territory,
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of place, of culture, of food,
of morality, of family.
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Armenia is our land
because we've survived here
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for thousands of years.
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In general, our
existence is a miracle for me.
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As a historian,
it's very difficult to explain
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how we survived, you know.
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It's really miracle by itself.
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The darkest
moment for Armenians
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came in the form of genocide.
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Preceding World War I,
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the Ottoman Empire
attempted to erase
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a large population of Armenians
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and other Christian minorities
living in their territories.
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We lost 1.5 million Armenians.
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Fifty percent
of the Armenian people.
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My grandfather was a survivor.
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He lost his entire family
of 17.
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We were Christians
in a Muslim country.
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There was a war going on.
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They thought it was a good
time to clean up the mess.
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While many
civilizations have disappeared
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way before classical
Greece collapsed,
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the Roman Empire collapsed,
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the Ottoman Empire collapsed.
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If you're from a
mountain civilization,
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the land is everything
because it's rare.
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You need to hold onto
as much as possible.
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Being Armenian is, there's a sense of pride.
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Growing up, there were
so few of us in the world
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and we've been
around for so long,
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there's a sense of
pride for that survival.
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Genocide is part of
our family, who we are.
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Most of our songs
tend to be sad...
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because we are always
reminded, yeah,
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that there's always
bad in this world.
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But at some point
we will move forward.
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I'm of the generation
in Armenia currently
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that was born
in the early '90s,
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so when the country was
just becoming a country,
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and it was the dissolution
of the Soviet Union.
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So we're very much
a part of defining
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what our country's
new identity is.
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And now we've adopted
wine as our identity.
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So it's really beautiful
to be a part of.
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Wine has always been, to me,
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it's always been this
international language.
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You can put a bottle of wine
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and people of different cultures
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and different nationalities
and ages, it doesn't matter.
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It brings everyone together.
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When I met Vahe, he had a map.
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He had all the different grapes
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that were growing in all
the different regions.
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It's not a political
map as much as wine map
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of how viticulture started.
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And he said that a lot of these,
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they didn't even know existed.
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Over the
last 8,000 years,
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farmers have been selecting,
selecting, selecting.
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It's the kid in a
candy store, literally.
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What this man is doing
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to revive the historical
significance of grape growing.
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Fascinating.
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It's a labor of love.
It's a passion project.
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He doesn't do this
because someone's
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paying him a lot of money.
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He's doing this because it's
his mark as an Armenian.
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In this region, the red
varietal that is the most famous
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and I think has the most
potential is Areni Noir.
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Areni itself is not
a thick-skinned grape,
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so it doesn't have a lot of
color, a lot of extension,
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not unlike a Pinot Noir.
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Yeah.
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Areni also has a black
pepper character,
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has a little bit of pepperiness.
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And the important thing
for Areni in general
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is that it needs to be ripe.
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Unripe Areni is really hard.
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It's not-- it's not ripe,
it doesn't express itself.
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But once it's ripe, it really
expresses itself nicely.
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Absolutely gorgeous.
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It is possible that Areni
is a very ancient grape.
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And I always like to say
that wine was not invented,
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it was discovered.
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So there's this
cave in modern day Armenia
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that was recently discovered,
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and in it,
a place to make wine.
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Kind of a ancient
winery, if you will.
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So we are going
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to the inner part
of the first gallery...
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where the main ritual
events took place
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thousands of years ago.
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The grape is a very
mysterious plant.
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It related with
the cult of the sun
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and people who lived here
were worshiping the sun.
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So you can see these
clay structures,
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and in the context of
these clay structures,
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you can see what is believed
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to be the earliest
wine making unit.
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So the wine was pressed
on this platform,
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and with the help of gravity,
it flowed down into the tank.
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We dated it and it's 4,000 BC.
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So there are not
wine making units
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known in the world like this,
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so this is the
oldest at the moment.
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The clay structures
contains animal remains
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and as well parts of human body.
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Those structures were
not burials themselves,
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but ritual basins,
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which was reflecting
a very complicated ritual
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related with dying
and reviving God.
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It was deeply believed
that wine
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was connecting this world
with the next world,
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because people believed
that everyone drinks wine,
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people alive, people
dead and gods.
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So wine was kind of a beverage
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who was opening gates
to the next world.
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There was
a culture here.
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And to put it in perspective,
they were, I think,
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discovering the wheel.
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Can you imagine, like,
it's the same period.
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There was sophistication
that they were making wine
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while they were tinkering
about how to make the wheel,
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or they had made the wheel.
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This was the time that
humans were changing,
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transforming from
hunters and collectors
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into those who could
produce agricultural goods.
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And these people
who were agricultural people,
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they see each year, nature
is dying and reviving,
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and these rituals were
related with this,
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death and revival.
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Those who stayed here
became also Armenians.
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During the time when you had Christianity, they made wine.
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When Armenia was not
ruled by Christians,
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they stopped making wine.
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There were times they'd
go 300, 400 years
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without making any wine,
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and then they'd have
to start up again.
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And they've done
that over and over.
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The residues that are found
in the amphora in that cave
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have been carbon dated
and analyzed genetically
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and those residues carry
the same grape variety
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that exists today,
over 6,000 years old.
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It is a strange irony that Armenia is starting over
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with very ancient
plant material.
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And I'm not sure that's
ironic as it is a connection.
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Think about the level of pride
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and excitement that
you or you as a country
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or certainly as a
region might experience
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if you've been kind of sitting
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on that winning lottery
ticket for thousands of years
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and just not being
able to cash it in.
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And now, all of a sudden,
someone had the balls
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to go cash it in.
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Armenia was an independent country
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for three years
after World War I,
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then it became part of USSR.
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It disrupted the whole
trajectory of viticulture,
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or wine making,
here, if you will.
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It got interrupted
for 70 or 80 years.
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We are in Getap Winery.
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It's an old-school winery.
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Very classic Soviet.
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It wasn't modern wine making at all, whatsoever.
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They would process
the fruit fairly rough.
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The machines were, you know,
pretty industrial machines.
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This is as Soviet
as it will get.
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You like it?
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During the Soviet times,
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each country had to
produce something.
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Georgia made wine,
Bulgaria made wine.
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Armenia was told to
make fortified wine.
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The Soviet Union decided
you guys stop doing wine,
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you do brandy.
348
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So Armenia became the cognac country for the Soviet Union.
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When the Soviet Union
was making brandy
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and planting vineyards
for large scale production,
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they wanted flat land.
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All the vineyards that were
planted pre-Soviet times
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were left untouched.
354
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It just so happens
that 120 years ago
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we had Armenians
that planted Areni.
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So that's why we
have these vineyards
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that essentially have been
untouched for 120 years.
358
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So it kind of
slipped through the cracks,
359
00:20:56,276 --> 00:20:58,076
kind of thing, you know.
360
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Areni Noir, it's such a complex varietal.
361
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I think it can rival some
of the best in-- in the world.
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Areni has the possibility
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of bringing a lot of
international recognition
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to a country that has a
great and rich history.
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As wine has become more and more popular globally,
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making high quality wine has
almost become sort of a seal
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of your cultural significance.
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I think Areni as a wine
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could do kind of what
Malbec did for Argentina.
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When I think about
Argentina, for instance,
371
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the first thing comes to mind
is great steak and great wine.
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Malbec was a sleeper
as a variety.
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So all we did was to say, "Well,
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what if we could grow
this grape, you know,
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just make a high
quality vineyard?
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How would it perform?"
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And so that's what we tried.
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And when we did that,
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we were like shocked how
good the wine was.
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00:22:08,157 --> 00:22:09,637
Paul Hobbs turned out to be
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one of the most influential
winemakers in the world.
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00:22:13,157 --> 00:22:17,397
He was vital in shaping
the wine culture
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00:22:17,517 --> 00:22:19,757
that we see in Argentina today.
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00:22:20,637 --> 00:22:22,597
Malbec solidified Argentina
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00:22:22,717 --> 00:22:24,917
as a world-class
producing region.
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Having a variety that
you're known for,
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you're the world leader,
I think is a huge asset.
388
00:22:33,438 --> 00:22:37,077
When Malbec took hold,
it infected everything.
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00:22:37,517 --> 00:22:41,317
Tourism, restaurants,
hotels bloomed,
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00:22:41,437 --> 00:22:43,598
or even exploded in the region.
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00:22:44,398 --> 00:22:46,397
That's one of the
reasons I love working
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00:22:46,517 --> 00:22:47,757
in these kind of places,
393
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because there's
always the possibility
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00:22:49,957 --> 00:22:54,238
of helping either resurrect
or create something afresh.
395
00:22:55,238 --> 00:22:56,677
In the case of Armenia, yeah,
396
00:22:56,797 --> 00:23:00,117
I think Areni as a wine
could have enormous power.
397
00:23:02,398 --> 00:23:04,477
Paul Hobbs has a
bit of a reputation in wine
398
00:23:04,598 --> 00:23:07,318
as a prospector and
recently he was one
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00:23:07,438 --> 00:23:09,238
of the first outsiders
to go to Armenia
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00:23:09,358 --> 00:23:12,358
to make wine with
the Areni grape.
401
00:23:14,398 --> 00:23:17,718
This is a 2016 version.
402
00:23:17,838 --> 00:23:23,878
This grape clearly stood
out in terms of quality.
403
00:23:23,998 --> 00:23:27,318
Beautiful color, this freshness.
404
00:23:28,278 --> 00:23:30,558
And then it finishes, right,
405
00:23:30,958 --> 00:23:33,758
and you can feel the nice grip
406
00:23:33,878 --> 00:23:36,638
and you get the feeling of
the mineral, chalky soils
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00:23:36,758 --> 00:23:38,599
from the sites that
these are grown. - Mm-Hm.
408
00:23:38,718 --> 00:23:43,838
With all this dynamic
activity going on in Armenia,
409
00:23:44,238 --> 00:23:46,438
do you feel any
kind of pressure?
410
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:49,198
Because it's really gonna
fall on the shoulders
411
00:23:49,318 --> 00:23:51,918
of people like you that
are gonna carry this thing
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00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,639
and make it to be
whatever it's going to be.
413
00:24:00,318 --> 00:24:02,918
This is a nation that lived on the crossroad,
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00:24:03,038 --> 00:24:05,358
always surrounded
by different nations.
415
00:24:05,479 --> 00:24:08,118
Not always friends.
416
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,878
Sometimes very hostile.
417
00:24:10,998 --> 00:24:14,038
But that created a new
DNA in these people,
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00:24:14,158 --> 00:24:17,239
which is a DNA of a survivor.
419
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:32,439
When the
Soviet Union dissolved,
420
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,399
when USSR dissolved...
borders were drawn.
421
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:39,719
Repeating once
again, our top story,
422
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:41,439
Soviet President
Mikhail Gorbachev
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00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,119
has been removed from power
and there are tanks now
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00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:46,719
in the streets of Moscow.
425
00:24:46,879 --> 00:24:48,599
He has declared a
state of emergency
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00:24:48,719 --> 00:24:50,279
in individual localities.
427
00:24:50,399 --> 00:24:52,319
It is not clear what that means.
428
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:55,319
There were
Armenians and Azeris
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00:24:55,439 --> 00:24:57,880
living in different areas.
430
00:24:58,479 --> 00:25:00,359
The borders were
redefined for Armenia
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00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,039
to be an independent
country and Azerbaijan,
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00:25:03,159 --> 00:25:05,439
and that's when the
conflict started.
433
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:12,240
So it's really kind
of a country, you know, at war.
434
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:14,079
It's always a state of war.
435
00:25:14,239 --> 00:25:15,960
There's always soldiers
coming, soldiers going.
436
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,199
We might even see a column
of tanks going, you know,
437
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:20,720
it's very common.
438
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,719
Because this is the road
439
00:25:22,879 --> 00:25:25,520
that goes to Artsakh,
or Nagorno Karabakh.
440
00:25:25,639 --> 00:25:29,439
So stuff is always
moving from here, there.
441
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,920
It's the main road.
442
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:38,000
See these things
are all to protect
443
00:25:39,999 --> 00:25:42,319
from sniper fire.
444
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,000
When Vahe came and wanted
to make sparkling in Armenia,
445
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,279
he had always dreamt
of making bubbles.
446
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,400
And he came to Armenia
447
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,240
and he went to different
vineyard sites and said,
448
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,960
"Where is the best place
to make sparkling?"
449
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520
And they happened upon Khachik.
450
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,561
Khachik is a village
451
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,401
at around 1,800 meters
above sea level.
452
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,960
So that represents
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00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,641
the highest elevation
vineyards in Armenia.
454
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,520
Every year, I buy all the
grapes of the village.
455
00:26:31,361 --> 00:26:35,680
Always. The only
people that buy are us.
456
00:26:36,881 --> 00:26:39,560
Whether it be 50 tons,
80 tons, 100 tons.
457
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,601
I have promised them and
every year I buy it from them.
458
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,480
We'll drive now past
the military base,
459
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,041
and then we get
to our vineyards.
460
00:26:50,321 --> 00:26:53,920
And our vineyards are 500
meters from the Azeri border.
461
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,681
And I want to
build my winery there.
462
00:27:00,321 --> 00:27:04,321
So when I got an architect,
a structural engineer,
463
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,001
I asked to build that could
withstand, you know, mortars.
464
00:27:12,041 --> 00:27:13,441
Yeah, yeah.
465
00:27:13,561 --> 00:27:16,761
Vahe, my father wants to build
a bombproof-- bombproof cellar.
466
00:27:16,881 --> 00:27:20,201
So that my cellar
wouldn't be, you know,
467
00:27:20,321 --> 00:27:22,241
short of a bunker buster,
468
00:27:22,361 --> 00:27:24,161
whatever those big
bombs are, you know.
469
00:27:24,281 --> 00:27:27,481
Every time he says that,
I'm like, "Will we need it?"
470
00:27:27,601 --> 00:27:28,881
And it was gonna be
471
00:27:29,002 --> 00:27:30,401
four to five times
more expensive
472
00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:33,601
because of the amount of
concrete we had to pour.
473
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:36,361
I mean, it's a little surreal.
474
00:27:37,201 --> 00:27:39,321
But if we're gonna
age our Keush up here,
475
00:27:39,441 --> 00:27:40,802
1,500 meters from the border
476
00:27:40,961 --> 00:27:43,161
and any war breaks out,
then yeah.
477
00:27:45,761 --> 00:27:49,002
I'm a little concerned,
but I'm not gonna run away.
478
00:27:50,242 --> 00:27:52,881
These are our vineyards,
this is our land,
479
00:27:53,761 --> 00:27:55,681
so we're gonna make
wine no matter what.
480
00:27:58,442 --> 00:28:01,242
The first war,
which started in 1988,
481
00:28:01,362 --> 00:28:05,042
the peace accord was
signed more or less in '94.
482
00:28:05,602 --> 00:28:09,602
That brutal conflict was won
by the Armenians. Hands down.
483
00:28:09,761 --> 00:28:13,481
They really-- the Azeri
army got a serious beating
484
00:28:13,601 --> 00:28:14,882
and took heavy losses.
485
00:28:15,442 --> 00:28:19,202
For the Azeris, it's a
question of revenge as well.
486
00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:21,561
They claim that it's
their territory.
487
00:28:22,362 --> 00:28:25,762
Now, if a country claims
that this is their territory,
488
00:28:25,922 --> 00:28:27,882
then we can go back in
time indefinitely and say,
489
00:28:28,002 --> 00:28:30,482
"Well, actually, Armenians were
there way before you were."
490
00:28:30,602 --> 00:28:35,002
The Turks didn't come before
the early 11th century.
491
00:28:35,122 --> 00:28:37,922
The Armenians had been there
many hundreds of years before,
492
00:28:38,082 --> 00:28:40,042
so if you go into
that logic, then, well,
493
00:28:40,162 --> 00:28:42,642
Armenians, that's their land.
It's not Turkish land.
494
00:28:42,762 --> 00:28:46,002
Of course, the reality on the
ground is quite different.
495
00:28:58,042 --> 00:29:01,003
Women and children
were evacuated a week ago
496
00:29:02,042 --> 00:29:05,442
and most of the farmers have
reported to the front lines
497
00:29:05,563 --> 00:29:07,122
to defend the village.
498
00:29:07,843 --> 00:29:10,122
We're preparing for air raids.
499
00:29:18,922 --> 00:29:20,923
This war is very dangerous.
500
00:29:21,522 --> 00:29:23,002
Not only just at the front line
501
00:29:23,122 --> 00:29:24,563
when you are there
with the troops.
502
00:29:24,683 --> 00:29:26,442
I mean, yeah, you're
getting shelled constantly
503
00:29:26,562 --> 00:29:29,162
and you don't know if the
next bomb is for you or not.
504
00:29:29,283 --> 00:29:31,362
But it was very
dangerous on the roads.
505
00:29:31,523 --> 00:29:33,163
We knew there are
drones everywhere.
506
00:29:33,282 --> 00:29:36,243
It's like having a giant
sniper up in the air.
507
00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:38,883
The difference that
the sniper gets tired,
508
00:29:39,003 --> 00:29:40,243
these drones don't.
509
00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:42,043
They could keep circling
for 24 hours, replace.
510
00:29:42,163 --> 00:29:43,803
I mean, it's nonstop.
511
00:29:46,643 --> 00:29:49,323
A lot of people that
I met who stayed,
512
00:29:50,083 --> 00:29:52,483
they stayed because
it was their home,
513
00:29:52,683 --> 00:29:57,163
either the house or the land,
or because they had cattle.
514
00:29:58,043 --> 00:30:01,883
Also, the grapes, you know, the
people who were making wine.
515
00:30:10,883 --> 00:30:14,684
The vineyards sit
right between the Armenian military base
516
00:30:14,804 --> 00:30:16,923
and the Azeri military base.
517
00:30:18,723 --> 00:30:21,244
It is around a half a mile,
518
00:30:21,364 --> 00:30:26,284
maybe a mile maximum from
their post to our border.
519
00:30:26,403 --> 00:30:32,484
So it is in a direct line
of fire, the vineyards.
520
00:30:35,604 --> 00:30:38,283
For the most part, we've
never had a problem.
521
00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:42,084
There was not much happening
in the last 30 or some years,
522
00:30:42,244 --> 00:30:45,843
but because now it's
a full-blown war...
523
00:30:48,924 --> 00:30:51,924
people are hesitating
whether they should harvest.
524
00:30:54,404 --> 00:30:57,164
The harvest date is the most important date
525
00:30:57,284 --> 00:31:00,164
in the entire process
of making wine.
526
00:31:00,324 --> 00:31:03,044
Winemakers have to wait
until the perfect moment
527
00:31:03,164 --> 00:31:04,804
to pick the fruit.
528
00:31:04,924 --> 00:31:08,164
And if you miss the window,
you can't make wine that year.
529
00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:11,484
It is exact time
to do the harvest,
530
00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:13,524
probably either today, tomorrow,
531
00:31:13,644 --> 00:31:16,724
the next three,
four days is the window
532
00:31:16,844 --> 00:31:19,564
before the sugars
go up too much.
533
00:31:20,844 --> 00:31:24,004
It is potentially
30,000 bottles
534
00:31:24,164 --> 00:31:27,205
of blanc de noirs
from that village.
535
00:31:27,765 --> 00:31:28,844
It's not about money, I think,
536
00:31:28,964 --> 00:31:31,284
it's about the
work that they did
537
00:31:31,404 --> 00:31:34,844
that they can't harvest and
it has to stay on the vine.
538
00:31:36,324 --> 00:31:38,205
It's their year
that they've spent, you know,
539
00:31:38,325 --> 00:31:41,885
growing these grapes and they
wanna see it go into fruition.
540
00:31:42,804 --> 00:31:46,444
It's kind of a dilemma.
541
00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:49,565
Do we risk going to the fields
542
00:31:49,685 --> 00:31:52,805
and perhaps aggravate
the situation
543
00:31:52,924 --> 00:31:54,564
by them fighting on them,
544
00:31:54,725 --> 00:31:59,125
or we let go of the fruit and
let it stand in the vineyard?
545
00:32:01,565 --> 00:32:03,005
First of all,
the road to Khachik
546
00:32:03,125 --> 00:32:06,405
at the moment is closed for
military personnel only.
547
00:32:09,805 --> 00:32:14,205
So if they were to allow us
to go and harvest the grapes,
548
00:32:14,325 --> 00:32:17,285
that would be a very
strategic military decision
549
00:32:17,445 --> 00:32:18,525
at the moment.
550
00:32:19,245 --> 00:32:20,685
We can't go at
night with lights.
551
00:32:20,805 --> 00:32:21,845
You know, they have snipers,
552
00:32:21,965 --> 00:32:23,365
they have certain technologies
553
00:32:23,485 --> 00:32:25,165
that can see you when
you harvest the grapes.
554
00:32:25,285 --> 00:32:27,645
So we're talking about a
completely different ballgame.
555
00:32:28,525 --> 00:32:33,125
This is a war of our right to
live peacefully in our land.
556
00:32:34,965 --> 00:32:38,565
And the vineyards actually
are a pretty big part of that.
557
00:32:38,725 --> 00:32:40,405
It's not a new thing
that the vineyards
558
00:32:40,525 --> 00:32:43,045
have acted like borders
where farmers stay
559
00:32:43,165 --> 00:32:45,005
and they defend their land.
560
00:32:46,285 --> 00:32:48,325
Look, we can pull it off.
561
00:32:49,086 --> 00:32:51,006
It's gonna be
a day-to-day decision.
562
00:32:57,326 --> 00:32:59,206
No, I'm calm. Yeah.
563
00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,925
Yeah, and it's not a fake calm,
it's a real calm.
564
00:33:04,205 --> 00:33:07,125
Vahe, Vahe is,
565
00:33:07,245 --> 00:33:09,886
you would think I understand
how he's thinking.
566
00:33:11,046 --> 00:33:14,925
He does well when there's
something that needs to happen.
567
00:33:16,165 --> 00:33:18,846
He has war experience,
so it's a little different.
568
00:33:18,966 --> 00:33:21,606
He can see this from
a different perspective.
569
00:33:25,686 --> 00:33:27,726
He's very much a leader and
a lot of people around us
570
00:33:27,846 --> 00:33:30,006
are looking at him
to be a leader.
571
00:33:31,526 --> 00:33:34,126
Actually, I do better
in times of difficulty
572
00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:35,646
than in times of peace.
573
00:33:35,766 --> 00:33:39,766
For some reason, I'm better
suited to take charge
574
00:33:39,886 --> 00:33:42,766
when things are out
of your control.
575
00:33:42,886 --> 00:33:44,566
I think it's best.
Yeah, let's-- okay.
576
00:33:48,326 --> 00:33:49,606
Okay.
577
00:34:13,806 --> 00:34:17,287
Usually we see a lot more trucks with grapes.
578
00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:18,566
It's mid-harvest season,
579
00:34:18,726 --> 00:34:21,127
but it looks really
calm right now.
580
00:34:26,646 --> 00:34:29,567
It's becoming more and
more real, by the way.
581
00:34:29,686 --> 00:34:32,327
It's coming, you know, closer.
582
00:34:33,246 --> 00:34:36,366
And now we know we're
hearing about people
583
00:34:36,487 --> 00:34:40,766
that we know got hurt,
injured or died, you know?
584
00:34:53,127 --> 00:34:55,167
So freaking quiet.
585
00:34:55,286 --> 00:34:56,367
Yeah?
586
00:34:56,487 --> 00:34:57,927
Yeah, it's
almost too quiet.
587
00:34:58,047 --> 00:35:00,487
Yeah, exactly. The
famous calm before the storm.
588
00:35:00,607 --> 00:35:03,207
Hopefully the storm
never comes here.
589
00:35:17,208 --> 00:35:18,687
Here we go.
590
00:35:33,567 --> 00:35:34,927
Okay.
591
00:35:36,327 --> 00:35:37,888
You got it?
592
00:35:51,368 --> 00:35:52,408
Okay.
593
00:36:02,808 --> 00:36:04,528
The plan is each
farmer and their plot
594
00:36:04,648 --> 00:36:06,128
will have three,
four people harvesting.
595
00:36:06,248 --> 00:36:08,608
Yeah, basically, rather than
the whole village harvest--
596
00:36:08,728 --> 00:36:10,728
They do plot by
plot slowly, slowly.
597
00:36:10,848 --> 00:36:13,128
So that there's no big
concentration, you know?
598
00:36:13,288 --> 00:36:14,488
Yeah.
599
00:36:19,048 --> 00:36:21,368
Do you know they used to
plant, in the Roman Empire,
600
00:36:21,488 --> 00:36:24,969
they used to plant vineyards
on the borders of the empire
601
00:36:25,128 --> 00:36:28,529
because they figured any
community that has vineyards,
602
00:36:28,648 --> 00:36:31,728
they will never run away because
they've invested so much.
603
00:36:31,848 --> 00:36:35,888
This is what?
120, 130, 140 years.
604
00:36:36,008 --> 00:36:40,688
It's been--
to let go of this without putting up a fight,
605
00:36:41,088 --> 00:36:43,209
it's almost impossible.
606
00:36:46,448 --> 00:36:47,528
Yeah, that's the white line.
607
00:36:47,688 --> 00:36:48,848
You see the white
line? That's the--
608
00:36:48,969 --> 00:36:50,329
- The road looking thing.
- Yeah.
609
00:36:50,449 --> 00:36:52,008
And that's their post.
610
00:36:54,208 --> 00:36:57,648
Our fields go 300 meters
from their post.
611
00:36:57,768 --> 00:37:00,489
I mean, people farm,
they're gutsy, man.
612
00:37:01,449 --> 00:37:03,248
They've seen war,
they've seen so much
613
00:37:03,369 --> 00:37:07,889
that then farming
there is, you know,
614
00:37:08,009 --> 00:37:10,049
it's a normal
day-to-day thing, honey.
615
00:37:10,169 --> 00:37:11,488
- They're used to it.
- They don't care.
616
00:37:11,608 --> 00:37:12,889
Yeah.
617
00:37:13,008 --> 00:37:15,249
Do you know another
beauty is that you see,
618
00:37:15,369 --> 00:37:17,729
we stand right, Ararat, you see?
619
00:37:20,808 --> 00:37:22,969
That mountain is a symbol.
620
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:26,049
Symbol of who we
are, what we've done,
621
00:37:26,169 --> 00:37:29,529
from Noah to this day.
622
00:37:29,649 --> 00:37:31,729
Yeah, of course,
let's leave religion
623
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:33,329
on the side for a
minute, but, you know,
624
00:37:33,449 --> 00:37:38,369
had it been Noah and whatnot,
it's a remarkable story
625
00:37:39,009 --> 00:37:41,689
you'll tell to
your kids one day.
626
00:37:41,809 --> 00:37:43,529
I'm telling you now.
627
00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:04,810
It will be a historic
moment for the village,
628
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:07,690
for the country in
saying in spite of it,
629
00:38:07,849 --> 00:38:08,930
we did it, you know?
630
00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:12,330
Even if it's 7,000 bottles,
who cares, you know?
631
00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:16,330
It's what that 7,000 represent.
632
00:39:21,331 --> 00:39:22,851
After a couple of weeks,
633
00:39:22,971 --> 00:39:25,650
they knew the war was going
really badly for them.
634
00:39:26,411 --> 00:39:28,370
Maybe they wouldn't
express it publicly,
635
00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:31,211
but inside, they
knew they had lost.
636
00:39:33,131 --> 00:39:35,650
There's no question about it.
637
00:39:37,091 --> 00:39:39,411
They lost quite a bit
of territory, too.
638
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:02,571
We truly thought
we would win this one.
639
00:40:02,731 --> 00:40:05,331
And then slowly we
came to the belief
640
00:40:05,451 --> 00:40:07,691
that we were going
to lose this one.
641
00:40:08,091 --> 00:40:10,411
And we did lose it, honestly.
642
00:40:13,131 --> 00:40:14,531
We lost three major wineries,
643
00:40:14,651 --> 00:40:16,651
several large-scale
vineyard projects,
644
00:40:16,811 --> 00:40:18,611
and the majority
of the oak forest
645
00:40:18,731 --> 00:40:20,571
that are used to
make our barrels.
646
00:40:21,011 --> 00:40:23,531
It's kind
of a rough one,
647
00:40:23,691 --> 00:40:25,652
seeing all that lost, you know?
648
00:40:27,131 --> 00:40:30,411
We'll pick up the pieces
and we'll move forward.
649
00:40:35,011 --> 00:40:39,851
The people who stick it
out through thick and thin
650
00:40:40,012 --> 00:40:42,571
respect the vine,
respect the struggle
651
00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:44,051
the vine has to go through,
652
00:40:44,172 --> 00:40:47,491
respect the age to
which the vines live
653
00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:51,292
and respect the
produce of the vine,
654
00:40:51,412 --> 00:40:52,772
which is just
a bunch of grapes,
655
00:40:52,892 --> 00:40:55,171
which they, through
their intelligence,
656
00:40:55,291 --> 00:40:57,132
manage to turn into wine.
657
00:40:58,451 --> 00:41:02,092
Wine is a product which can
be sold across the world.
658
00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:05,492
That's a great advantage.
659
00:41:06,532 --> 00:41:10,692
If you are a country
that produces very high quality wine
660
00:41:10,812 --> 00:41:12,972
and become globally
recognized for it,
661
00:41:13,131 --> 00:41:16,972
it can really help to
market you as a country,
662
00:41:17,092 --> 00:41:20,572
can show people that you should
be seen on the global stage
663
00:41:20,692 --> 00:41:22,852
alongside these other
places in the world
664
00:41:22,972 --> 00:41:25,732
that make high quality wine.
665
00:41:26,612 --> 00:41:28,492
I'm gonna take the
Areni to Napa Valley
666
00:41:28,612 --> 00:41:31,292
and see what the
world thinks of it.
667
00:41:35,892 --> 00:41:38,292
Getting the message
out is the toughest part.
668
00:41:39,372 --> 00:41:41,452
There's a story
that has to be told.
669
00:41:41,932 --> 00:41:43,532
Not many people
have heard of Areni
670
00:41:43,652 --> 00:41:46,132
and not many people
have heard of Armenia.
671
00:41:46,612 --> 00:41:49,412
First of all,
the wine has to be good.
672
00:41:49,532 --> 00:41:52,333
You gotta get people
to try it, to taste it.
673
00:41:52,453 --> 00:41:55,053
But it's not a wine that
anybody's familiar with.
674
00:41:55,173 --> 00:41:56,732
This is a first for me.
675
00:41:56,853 --> 00:41:58,773
I don't think I've ever
had an Armenian wine.
676
00:41:58,893 --> 00:42:00,332
I've never had the
grape variety before,
677
00:42:00,492 --> 00:42:02,252
so I don't really
know what to expect.
678
00:42:02,453 --> 00:42:05,453
Everyone's,
at first, a little hesitant.
679
00:42:06,252 --> 00:42:08,692
You've got words on
here that I can't pronounce.
680
00:42:08,812 --> 00:42:10,492
How do you market
it outside of Armenia?
681
00:42:10,612 --> 00:42:13,133
If you're trying to sell
something that nobody can say,
682
00:42:13,253 --> 00:42:15,012
that's a bit of an obstacle.
683
00:42:15,132 --> 00:42:16,613
Because you
know what you get in Napa,
684
00:42:16,733 --> 00:42:17,973
you know what you
get in Bordeaux,
685
00:42:18,093 --> 00:42:19,372
you know what you get
in Burgundy or La Morra.
686
00:42:19,532 --> 00:42:20,373
Yep.
687
00:42:20,492 --> 00:42:21,773
With Caucasus oak,
688
00:42:21,893 --> 00:42:23,333
is it at faster
growing or slower growing?
689
00:42:23,453 --> 00:42:24,452
Caucasian, it's slow growth.
690
00:42:24,572 --> 00:42:25,733
It's very delicate grape.
691
00:42:25,853 --> 00:42:27,373
It's very thin-skinned,
tight clustered.
692
00:42:27,533 --> 00:42:28,853
So what's
the viticulture like?
693
00:42:28,972 --> 00:42:30,813
How are you harvesting
these grapes? What, what--
694
00:42:30,933 --> 00:42:32,613
Yeah, yeah.
695
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:34,973
Viticulture is, yeah.
696
00:42:35,093 --> 00:42:37,133
Is there a
problem with winter cold?
697
00:42:37,253 --> 00:42:38,493
Do you do any
special winterization,
698
00:42:38,613 --> 00:42:39,613
burying the trunks or
anything like that?
699
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:40,933
We don't do any of that.
700
00:42:41,053 --> 00:42:42,893
Areni is grown in volcanic soil.
701
00:42:43,013 --> 00:42:44,613
It's all volcanic
soil, high elevation.
702
00:42:44,733 --> 00:42:47,334
The vineyards range
from 1,300 meters
703
00:42:47,453 --> 00:42:49,213
all the way up to 1,700 meters.
704
00:42:49,333 --> 00:42:50,453
Those vineyards are first
705
00:42:50,573 --> 00:42:51,973
or second highest
elevation vineyards
706
00:42:52,093 --> 00:42:53,613
in the Northern Hemisphere.
707
00:42:53,774 --> 00:42:57,253
Do the local skirmishes
affect when you can harvest?
708
00:42:57,933 --> 00:42:59,254
We don't have
certifications yet,
709
00:42:59,373 --> 00:43:00,573
we don't have appellations.
710
00:43:00,693 --> 00:43:01,893
We're at the very beginning.
711
00:43:02,013 --> 00:43:04,253
We're just starting
to export, really.
712
00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:06,053
No one was making
wine in Armenia
713
00:43:06,173 --> 00:43:07,933
and Armenia has only been
a country for around 20 years.
714
00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:09,613
Oh, now I'm gonna have
to go look at a map.
715
00:43:09,773 --> 00:43:11,093
Yeah.
Figure this all out.
716
00:43:11,213 --> 00:43:12,853
- Should we try it?
- So let's do it. Yeah.
717
00:43:12,974 --> 00:43:14,373
- Let's taste.
- I think we shall.
718
00:43:14,493 --> 00:43:15,773
Thanks so much.
719
00:43:25,694 --> 00:43:27,054
It smells lovely.
720
00:43:32,613 --> 00:43:34,054
It's very exotic.
721
00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:37,813
A lot of people try to
compare it or place it.
722
00:43:37,934 --> 00:43:41,094
Like, "Oh, Areni tastes
like Pinot Noir,"
723
00:43:41,214 --> 00:43:42,414
but it's not a Pinot Noir.
724
00:43:42,534 --> 00:43:45,334
It's a completely
different grape.
725
00:44:19,134 --> 00:44:22,615
I don't think-- I-I don't think
that it should be compared
726
00:44:22,734 --> 00:44:24,774
to other grapes, personally.
727
00:44:25,334 --> 00:44:29,615
This wine is totally singular.
728
00:44:41,575 --> 00:44:43,094
Well, I really like it.
729
00:44:44,455 --> 00:44:47,094
I love the wine.
The wine is pleasurable.
730
00:44:47,214 --> 00:44:50,295
It's got great acid,
it's got great tannin.
731
00:44:50,415 --> 00:44:52,935
This is a quality wine.
I really dig it.
732
00:44:53,055 --> 00:44:55,695
It has crazy balance.
733
00:44:57,774 --> 00:44:59,655
This one, you could call
this a noble variety,
734
00:44:59,775 --> 00:45:01,614
if you were to use that term.
735
00:45:03,215 --> 00:45:05,775
It has, it's the whole package.
736
00:45:07,335 --> 00:45:09,095
It should
be a noble grape.
737
00:45:09,215 --> 00:45:11,055
I mean, the grape is one of
the oldest grape varieties
738
00:45:11,175 --> 00:45:14,615
in the world and somehow it
still survives to this day.
739
00:45:16,695 --> 00:45:19,855
The story of an ancient land, you know,
740
00:45:19,975 --> 00:45:23,895
with such an ancient,
ancient wine culture.
741
00:45:24,015 --> 00:45:25,575
I think it's a winner.
742
00:45:27,295 --> 00:45:30,256
This would be
the closing of a circle.
743
00:45:31,496 --> 00:45:32,935
It's originated here
744
00:45:33,536 --> 00:45:36,175
and now it's coming
back with a vengeance.
745
00:45:37,295 --> 00:45:39,856
Wine can be used
as a form of diplomacy,
746
00:45:39,976 --> 00:45:44,335
can be used as a form of
peacemaking, of negotiations.
747
00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:47,215
Wine can be used
as many things.
748
00:45:48,695 --> 00:45:50,696
She can,
if not the world,
749
00:45:50,816 --> 00:45:54,175
she can change parts of
the world through wine
750
00:45:54,295 --> 00:45:56,775
and she can make it
a little bit better
751
00:45:57,256 --> 00:46:00,735
because she's...
she's my daughter.
752
00:46:23,936 --> 00:46:25,736
It's the harvest
season in Armenia.
753
00:46:26,376 --> 00:46:28,096
We're harvesting grapes
from five different regions,
754
00:46:28,216 --> 00:46:31,216
so it's definitely hectic
here at the winery.
755
00:46:33,856 --> 00:46:36,936
I like the
excitement of the new.
756
00:46:38,176 --> 00:46:40,816
The thrill of the chase.
757
00:46:40,936 --> 00:46:42,456
I think it's my character.
758
00:46:42,576 --> 00:46:44,136
I'm not irresponsible,
759
00:46:44,256 --> 00:46:50,696
but I like the high of doing
something new, you know,
760
00:46:50,816 --> 00:46:53,296
and maybe getting away with it.
761
00:46:53,936 --> 00:46:57,696
The idea came to me to
make first wine from Iran.
762
00:47:01,857 --> 00:47:07,737
The whole idea started because
we have the map behind me.
763
00:47:07,857 --> 00:47:10,136
Iran is a critical part of it.
764
00:47:11,216 --> 00:47:13,617
When you drink
wine, the majority,
765
00:47:14,017 --> 00:47:16,937
ninety-nine-point-something
percent of what you drink
766
00:47:17,057 --> 00:47:20,057
is from a species of vine
called vitis vinifera.
767
00:47:20,177 --> 00:47:23,176
That is Pinot Noir, that is
Chardonnay, that is Gamay,
768
00:47:23,296 --> 00:47:25,017
that's Shiraz, that's
Cabernet Sauvignon,
769
00:47:25,137 --> 00:47:26,497
that's Cabernet Franc.
770
00:47:26,617 --> 00:47:29,176
It all comes back
to vitis vinifera.
771
00:47:29,297 --> 00:47:31,617
A lot of experts
believe that the origin
772
00:47:31,737 --> 00:47:34,697
of vitis vinifera
comes from Iran.
773
00:47:35,857 --> 00:47:38,096
Well, we have two
neighbors that are friendly.
774
00:47:38,217 --> 00:47:40,696
So one is Georgia,
which is fine.
775
00:47:40,817 --> 00:47:44,737
And then we have Iran, which
we get along very nicely,
776
00:47:44,857 --> 00:47:47,857
but no one else in the
world gets along, you know.
777
00:47:47,977 --> 00:47:49,657
It's interesting that
the Armenians
778
00:47:49,777 --> 00:47:53,817
and the Persians get along
for a multitude of reasons.
779
00:47:53,937 --> 00:47:56,097
One of them is because
they are alike.
780
00:47:56,217 --> 00:47:58,337
They were enemies,
but they were also allies
781
00:47:58,457 --> 00:48:01,457
that went back and forth since
the fifth century, really.
782
00:48:01,577 --> 00:48:03,137
They have a common history.
783
00:48:14,698 --> 00:48:17,657
Maysara is
an ancient Persian word
784
00:48:17,777 --> 00:48:19,618
meaning house of wine.
785
00:48:19,738 --> 00:48:23,417
"May" means wine
and "Sara" is house.
786
00:48:31,857 --> 00:48:36,537
Initially when we started
owning a vineyard and a winery,
787
00:48:37,097 --> 00:48:38,938
we made it very
clear to our kids
788
00:48:39,058 --> 00:48:42,738
that they should pursue
their own dreams,
789
00:48:43,377 --> 00:48:46,098
but I am so excited
and thrilled
790
00:48:46,257 --> 00:48:49,098
for it to become
a family business.
791
00:48:55,778 --> 00:48:58,258
I have to say, it
didn't seem as much
792
00:48:58,418 --> 00:49:01,098
whatever you girls
wanna do, go do.
793
00:49:01,218 --> 00:49:02,738
It was always expected,
794
00:49:02,898 --> 00:49:05,138
but it could also be that we
put that pressure on ourselves,
795
00:49:05,298 --> 00:49:08,498
right, where we wanted
to kind of perform,
796
00:49:08,658 --> 00:49:10,138
seeing what they've done.
797
00:49:10,258 --> 00:49:12,018
I mean, they escaped from a
country with whatever they had
798
00:49:12,178 --> 00:49:14,978
and I think that it does hold
us to a different standard.
799
00:49:15,698 --> 00:49:17,818
I mean, I'm American,
I was born here,
800
00:49:18,498 --> 00:49:19,538
but I'm so proud of my roots.
801
00:49:19,699 --> 00:49:22,579
I'm so proud that I'm Iranian.
802
00:49:24,338 --> 00:49:26,658
Of course, we
get people asking,
803
00:49:26,778 --> 00:49:28,978
well, in your country you
don't have wine culture
804
00:49:29,139 --> 00:49:32,299
or you're Muslim, how
come you have a winery?
805
00:49:32,418 --> 00:49:34,619
I think people often,
when they think Persia
806
00:49:34,738 --> 00:49:36,259
or they think Iran,
807
00:49:36,378 --> 00:49:39,098
they think of the regime
that's going on with religion
808
00:49:39,218 --> 00:49:41,818
and then they pull
away being like, well, they can't drink wine.
809
00:49:41,938 --> 00:49:44,418
And it's just like,
let's go back to history
810
00:49:44,538 --> 00:49:45,778
and see where it all started.
811
00:49:45,938 --> 00:49:47,418
It came from our home country.
812
00:49:48,059 --> 00:49:49,658
In the western world,
813
00:49:49,938 --> 00:49:51,739
we mainly talk about
814
00:49:52,378 --> 00:49:55,739
the flavor,
aroma, acidity.
815
00:49:55,859 --> 00:49:59,819
But in our Persian
culture, in our poetry,
816
00:49:59,939 --> 00:50:05,378
it's mainly talked about
the spirit of wine.
817
00:50:05,499 --> 00:50:10,299
Wine was considered as
like a sun's radiance
818
00:50:10,419 --> 00:50:12,499
in a liquid form.
819
00:50:13,819 --> 00:50:16,099
It was a very sacred thing.
820
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:19,579
What happened
was that there was
821
00:50:19,699 --> 00:50:22,699
a religious revolution in 1979.
822
00:50:24,739 --> 00:50:27,979
The country became
an Islamic republic.
823
00:50:28,979 --> 00:50:33,379
So immediately, use
of alcohol was banned.
824
00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:37,299
You know, you hear
a lot of these stories
825
00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:39,979
of these Persians fleeing
when the revolution happened.
826
00:50:40,099 --> 00:50:41,819
They fled after the revolution.
827
00:50:41,939 --> 00:50:43,539
It was even harder to get out.
828
00:50:43,699 --> 00:50:45,779
They came with what they had
on their back and, you know,
829
00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:47,699
my mom was eight
months pregnant.
830
00:50:48,339 --> 00:50:51,180
- It was difficult.
- It was really hard, yeah.
831
00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:54,899
Of course they closed
down the wineries,
832
00:50:55,059 --> 00:51:00,259
but before the revolution, there
was about like 300 wineries.
833
00:51:01,779 --> 00:51:06,100
But a lot of those vineyards,
they got demolished.
834
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:13,579
It's unfortunate that when
you get a lot of politics
835
00:51:13,699 --> 00:51:15,660
and religion and
things like that,
836
00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:19,220
they forget history and it
automatically goes to a place
837
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:22,459
of just like
negative, bad, right?
838
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:24,140
They took something
that was so important
839
00:51:24,259 --> 00:51:26,700
to my parents' culture
840
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:30,380
and so it makes-- it makes
it hard, you know, so.
841
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:45,980
Let's put the
show on the road.
842
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:48,340
- Let's see.
- As they say.
843
00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:52,140
So tomorrow, I'll fly to Tehran.
844
00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:55,060
I've never been to Tehran.
845
00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:57,780
Tuesday, Wednesday,
we'll be in the grape region.
846
00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:00,780
This part is Kurdistan.
You see, it's all mountains,
847
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,060
and we'll get the
grapes from there. - Mm-hm.
848
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:05,260
I'm looking for Rasheh grapes.
849
00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:07,141
The harvest has started already,
850
00:52:07,261 --> 00:52:10,060
so it's going to be
treasure trove, you know.
851
00:52:10,821 --> 00:52:11,941
The problem I need to be careful
852
00:52:12,061 --> 00:52:13,940
is that we're going
to go around here
853
00:52:14,101 --> 00:52:16,540
with lots of cameras,
drones and whatnot.
854
00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:19,700
And that, you know, it
might attract attention
855
00:52:19,861 --> 00:52:23,421
as to why would anybody video.
856
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:27,780
So wine is going to
be a distant idea
857
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:32,020
that we know but not
everyone to know.
858
00:52:32,181 --> 00:52:33,260
Why now?
859
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:35,101
So at some point
it's the right time.
860
00:52:35,221 --> 00:52:37,620
You know, it's the right
time to do something.
861
00:52:38,101 --> 00:52:43,141
And you know, wine hasn't
been made for 40 years.
862
00:52:43,261 --> 00:52:44,941
It's something new.
863
00:52:48,821 --> 00:52:51,341
Yeah, you'll come
visit me in jail, okay?
864
00:52:51,460 --> 00:52:52,381
It'll be fine, yeah.
865
00:52:52,501 --> 00:52:54,501
You're okay. It'll be okay.
866
00:53:02,661 --> 00:53:05,941
He's been talking about this for four, five years.
867
00:53:06,101 --> 00:53:08,341
I remember every year during
harvest season, he says,
868
00:53:08,501 --> 00:53:10,102
"Should we get the grapes?
Should we bring the grapes in?
869
00:53:10,261 --> 00:53:12,022
Should we go find
grapes in Iran?"
870
00:53:16,262 --> 00:53:18,501
It's a state with very
heavy surveillance
871
00:53:18,621 --> 00:53:20,341
that happens
on a day-to-day basis.
872
00:53:23,262 --> 00:53:28,342
I've had friends that,
they got caught drinking
873
00:53:28,462 --> 00:53:30,701
and they wanted to take
him out to the street
874
00:53:30,821 --> 00:53:33,262
and slash him with belts.
875
00:53:42,221 --> 00:53:45,582
So somehow we managed
enough contacts and people
876
00:53:45,702 --> 00:53:48,182
that now it's
gonna be a reality.
877
00:53:49,182 --> 00:53:50,702
I don't know what to expect,
878
00:53:50,822 --> 00:53:53,822
but something's going to
happen, let's put it that way.
879
00:54:14,862 --> 00:54:16,462
We land in Iran
and it's nothing
880
00:54:16,582 --> 00:54:19,382
like I've experienced
before other countries.
881
00:54:19,542 --> 00:54:23,062
There is security concerns.
882
00:54:24,182 --> 00:54:28,102
It is a police state because
there's so many rules
883
00:54:28,222 --> 00:54:29,862
that people have to obey,
884
00:54:29,982 --> 00:54:33,623
so you have to have a lot of
people to enforce those rules.
885
00:54:36,343 --> 00:54:38,263
You asked me if I'm nervous.
886
00:54:38,582 --> 00:54:40,982
It takes a lot to
make me nervous.
887
00:54:48,423 --> 00:54:49,783
It's one thing being in
prisons,
888
00:54:49,903 --> 00:54:52,742
another thing being
in Iranian prison.
889
00:54:56,663 --> 00:54:58,263
This is
gonna be the first time
890
00:54:58,423 --> 00:55:00,623
anyone is making wine
with modern technology
891
00:55:00,743 --> 00:55:02,223
from these Iranian grapes
892
00:55:02,342 --> 00:55:04,343
and that is just too hard
to pass up, honestly.
893
00:55:04,463 --> 00:55:07,262
It's just too exciting.
It's very risky.
894
00:55:09,783 --> 00:55:13,463
I don't look at the risk,
I look only at the rewards.
895
00:55:15,223 --> 00:55:19,103
If we don't take risks in
life, what's the point?
896
00:55:21,143 --> 00:55:23,142
I'm gonna spend
the day in Tehran.
897
00:55:23,263 --> 00:55:24,662
I'll figure out
which are the grapes
898
00:55:24,823 --> 00:55:26,583
that we would like to get.
899
00:55:28,383 --> 00:55:30,903
Hello, nice to meet
you. How are you?
900
00:55:31,023 --> 00:55:32,743
Yes, you want some
jewelry?
901
00:55:32,863 --> 00:55:34,383
They might stop us,
ask us questions.
902
00:55:34,503 --> 00:55:37,303
Say we're doing a
documentary on grapes, DNA,
903
00:55:37,463 --> 00:55:39,063
origins of grapes, whatever.
904
00:55:39,184 --> 00:55:46,223
We'll make it up, something.
905
00:55:54,743 --> 00:55:57,783
Now, you know, we are playing
with fire a little bit.
906
00:55:58,583 --> 00:55:59,864
Nice to meet you. Pleasure.
907
00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:01,903
It's so good to meet you.
Thank you very much.
908
00:56:02,023 --> 00:56:04,824
Thanks for having me.
It's a pleasure here.
909
00:56:05,464 --> 00:56:09,904
Anyway, so, my first
time in Tehran.
910
00:56:10,024 --> 00:56:12,983
First time. Looks okay,
I'll come back again, I think.
911
00:56:13,144 --> 00:56:14,384
It's very nice.
912
00:56:14,504 --> 00:56:16,424
So you will translate?
913
00:56:16,543 --> 00:56:17,623
How's your English? It's okay?
914
00:56:17,784 --> 00:56:19,464
You understand quite well?
915
00:56:19,584 --> 00:56:20,704
Yeah? Okay.
916
00:56:20,824 --> 00:56:24,384
So the purpose
is for me to buy grapes,
917
00:56:24,504 --> 00:56:29,104
maybe 10, 15 ton of grapes
918
00:56:29,224 --> 00:56:31,904
for us for do research,
919
00:56:32,024 --> 00:56:33,824
do some microvinification.
920
00:56:33,944 --> 00:56:38,144
Try to see, you know,
how Iranian grapes are.
921
00:56:38,264 --> 00:56:42,224
I guess you must produce
a lot of fruit, yeah,
922
00:56:42,344 --> 00:56:44,104
grapes in Iran, yeah?
923
00:56:45,144 --> 00:56:50,704
So my interest, I want to see
what varieties is available,
924
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:51,904
what we can get.
925
00:56:52,024 --> 00:56:53,864
Maybe we drive around,
we see some vineyards.
926
00:56:53,984 --> 00:56:56,584
If you have a supplier there,
we can go see them,
927
00:56:56,704 --> 00:56:59,104
see the grape and
we can purchase,
928
00:56:59,224 --> 00:57:01,704
if you have anybody
in Kermanshah.
929
00:57:02,184 --> 00:57:04,664
We know historically
grapes were grown there
930
00:57:04,824 --> 00:57:06,144
for thousands of years
931
00:57:06,265 --> 00:57:10,264
because it's one of the
birthplaces of the vine.
932
00:57:10,424 --> 00:57:11,465
Where are the grapes?
933
00:57:11,584 --> 00:57:12,985
I need vineyards.
934
00:57:17,024 --> 00:57:19,864
This is Western Azerbaijan
or something, right?
935
00:57:19,985 --> 00:57:22,705
Yeah, and
that is Kermanshah.
936
00:57:22,825 --> 00:57:24,664
Kermanshah?
937
00:57:24,785 --> 00:57:26,904
Does it have a name, this grape?
938
00:57:28,104 --> 00:57:30,864
- Rasheh, Rasheh.
- Rasheh, Rasheh? Okay.
939
00:57:46,425 --> 00:57:48,985
Fifteen ton, 10 cent
makes no difference.
940
00:57:49,105 --> 00:57:51,665
One thousand dollar, 500.
941
00:57:54,505 --> 00:57:56,825
So tomorrow, where can
we go tomorrow? Tomorrow?
942
00:57:58,585 --> 00:57:59,705
Here?
943
00:58:00,185 --> 00:58:02,705
Over to Sanandaj,
and here over to Mahabad.
944
00:58:02,825 --> 00:58:05,665
From here, they are
three hours, so five hours?
945
00:58:07,185 --> 00:58:10,585
I think I have a new
road, but I don't...
946
00:58:10,705 --> 00:58:16,025
So we decided not to
wait and drive to Sanandaj.
947
00:58:18,425 --> 00:58:21,905
Here we are going to
the hills in Kurdistan
948
00:58:22,425 --> 00:58:24,225
trying to find grapes,
949
00:58:24,345 --> 00:58:26,745
and they didn't know
if there were grapes.
950
00:58:28,025 --> 00:58:30,425
And there was one point
we kept driving, driving.
951
00:58:30,545 --> 00:58:31,706
I wasn't seeing any vineyards,
952
00:58:31,865 --> 00:58:33,585
like what the hell
am I going to do
953
00:58:33,705 --> 00:58:36,346
if there's no grapes
in this goddamn country?
954
00:58:39,666 --> 00:58:41,785
No grapes? Grapes, no grapes?
955
00:58:43,025 --> 00:58:44,826
He says six kilometers.
956
00:58:44,945 --> 00:58:46,585
- Maybe.
- No, no, three kilometers.
957
00:58:46,705 --> 00:58:49,145
- Maybe, or there is grapes?
- Yes, there is.
958
00:58:58,586 --> 00:59:00,186
Thank you. Vahe.
959
00:59:00,906 --> 00:59:02,266
And this fellow, he's Kurdish,
960
00:59:02,426 --> 00:59:04,505
he's gonna accompany
us to a place
961
00:59:04,626 --> 00:59:07,385
where he knows where
those grapes are grown.
962
00:59:07,506 --> 00:59:09,746
But he insisted on having tea,
so we're having tea.
963
00:59:09,865 --> 00:59:11,586
Yes, shall we have tea?
964
00:59:13,786 --> 00:59:15,866
You drink a lot of tea, huh?
965
00:59:16,705 --> 00:59:17,626
You don't?
966
00:59:17,786 --> 00:59:20,026
Iranians drinking tea,
967
00:59:20,146 --> 00:59:21,706
Kurdistan doesn't
have a good tea.
968
00:59:21,826 --> 00:59:24,066
Yeah, they grow it here?
969
00:59:24,626 --> 00:59:25,946
Smuggle it, yeah.
970
00:59:26,106 --> 00:59:26,946
The good tea.
971
00:59:27,066 --> 00:59:28,186
They smuggle tea?
972
00:59:28,346 --> 00:59:29,266
Why?
973
00:59:29,386 --> 00:59:30,666
They just take it
in the car, no? No?
974
00:59:30,786 --> 00:59:32,187
No, no.
975
00:59:32,346 --> 00:59:34,706
If they wanna smuggle,
smuggle something better, no?
976
00:59:40,147 --> 00:59:41,507
What?
977
00:59:41,626 --> 00:59:44,947
He says if you
want some place for resting--
978
00:59:45,067 --> 00:59:46,707
No, no, it's okay.
Yeah, it's okay.
979
00:59:46,826 --> 00:59:48,186
We want vineyards.
980
00:59:48,306 --> 00:59:50,586
We want grapes, vineyards. Yeah.
981
01:00:03,547 --> 01:00:06,547
Slowly, we started
seeing vineyards.
982
01:00:08,706 --> 01:00:11,227
So you can see there's a
piece of vineyard there.
983
01:00:11,787 --> 01:00:15,546
There's an impossible piece
of vineyard over there.
984
01:00:16,786 --> 01:00:19,786
I have no idea why would anybody
985
01:00:19,907 --> 01:00:21,947
want to put a vineyard there,
986
01:00:22,107 --> 01:00:24,027
but I guess they
don't have a choice.
987
01:00:24,787 --> 01:00:26,506
We'll drive another
half an hour, an hour
988
01:00:26,627 --> 01:00:28,547
and see what we need.
989
01:00:29,587 --> 01:00:32,627
How do they farm this land, man?
990
01:00:32,747 --> 01:00:34,507
Okay, so I'm gonna go.
991
01:00:35,067 --> 01:00:36,507
Let me go.
992
01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:02,347
Oh, fuck.
993
01:01:02,708 --> 01:01:03,907
Sorry.
994
01:01:11,348 --> 01:01:12,828
Where's the vineyard? There?
995
01:01:42,108 --> 01:01:44,348
These are definitely ready.
996
01:01:48,468 --> 01:01:49,627
Perfect, yeah.
997
01:01:50,268 --> 01:01:53,788
I'm gonna go talk to the owner
and see how much he has
998
01:01:53,948 --> 01:01:55,828
and what he wants to sell.
999
01:02:03,868 --> 01:02:05,468
When it comes to wine,
he's always, I think,
1000
01:02:05,588 --> 01:02:07,428
been at the right place
at the right time.
1001
01:02:12,509 --> 01:02:15,588
He does all this out
of pure excitement
1002
01:02:15,708 --> 01:02:19,308
and seeing a boundary
and wanting to push it.
1003
01:02:21,108 --> 01:02:24,948
His ability to be
inspiring is contagious.
1004
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:40,828
Grapes cannot grow
anywhere for 8,000 years
1005
01:02:40,948 --> 01:02:42,988
and not have something special.
1006
01:02:43,428 --> 01:02:45,389
You know, it's
something beautiful,
1007
01:02:45,509 --> 01:02:48,229
and if people can't see
beauty, it's their problem,
1008
01:02:48,348 --> 01:02:49,789
it's not my problem.
1009
01:02:58,669 --> 01:03:04,069
For 40 years, no modern
wine was made in Iran,
1010
01:03:04,189 --> 01:03:06,629
so as if time has stood still.
1011
01:03:09,149 --> 01:03:11,229
Now we're trying to catch up,
1012
01:03:11,389 --> 01:03:15,549
get the grapes, make the
wine and see what they have.
1013
01:03:16,429 --> 01:03:20,189
For a winemaker,
it's the holy grail.
1014
01:03:23,549 --> 01:03:25,349
We used professional people
1015
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:28,109
that truck between
Iran and Armenia.
1016
01:03:28,229 --> 01:03:30,909
I'm not saying they
bribed or they didn't bribe,
1017
01:03:31,069 --> 01:03:35,190
but I'm saying they figured
it out how to bring it.
1018
01:03:37,790 --> 01:03:40,950
Of course, we have to put a
different name on the paperwork
1019
01:03:41,069 --> 01:03:44,790
so that it crosses the
border with relative ease.
1020
01:03:49,789 --> 01:03:52,870
Shipping grapes for
three days, four days
1021
01:03:52,990 --> 01:03:54,630
is not something common.
1022
01:03:54,910 --> 01:03:57,989
But because
of the circumstances, we don't have a choice.
1023
01:03:58,110 --> 01:04:01,829
You know, I can't sit there
in Kurdistan and make wine.
1024
01:04:04,429 --> 01:04:05,829
At least not yet.
1025
01:04:13,870 --> 01:04:15,510
Things could go wrong.
1026
01:04:17,590 --> 01:04:19,710
I'm hoping that everything
is perfect, but you never know.
1027
01:04:19,830 --> 01:04:21,989
This is a first for us.
1028
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:28,310
We're doing something
that maybe some people
1029
01:04:28,429 --> 01:04:32,150
have dreamt of
but never thought that it would be possible.
1030
01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:56,070
So far...
so far, so good.
1031
01:05:11,110 --> 01:05:12,750
It's gonna have a huge impact.
1032
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:14,711
It's going to open talks,
1033
01:05:14,830 --> 01:05:16,710
people are going
to write articles.
1034
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:21,071
Not because of the wine, but
because of the possibility.
1035
01:05:24,830 --> 01:05:26,271
For Aimee, my daughter,
1036
01:05:26,391 --> 01:05:28,951
you know, there's a
big question mark.
1037
01:05:29,711 --> 01:05:31,311
I am very concerned.
1038
01:05:32,511 --> 01:05:35,671
We don't know how the
government is going to react.
1039
01:05:36,431 --> 01:05:39,431
There isn't a precedent
for something like this.
1040
01:05:43,951 --> 01:05:47,231
Perhaps the Iranian
government might not like it.
1041
01:05:48,831 --> 01:05:50,471
I don't know what they can do.
1042
01:05:51,151 --> 01:05:52,351
I'm not going to not do it
1043
01:05:52,471 --> 01:05:54,351
because it might
happen, you know?
1044
01:06:04,071 --> 01:06:05,271
- Twenty-two?
- Yeah, 22.
1045
01:06:05,391 --> 01:06:07,311
- Twenty-two.
- Exactly 22.
1046
01:06:07,832 --> 01:06:10,312
Now we have something
special, I think.
1047
01:06:10,432 --> 01:06:12,191
- We can start the process.
- Cool.
1048
01:06:12,311 --> 01:06:14,552
- Let's get it done, yeah?
- Yellah.
1049
01:06:15,871 --> 01:06:17,712
Okay, yellah.
1050
01:06:18,672 --> 01:06:22,112
It was risk worth
taking, you know, so we'll see.
1051
01:06:23,391 --> 01:06:25,551
She's fine. She'll be okay.
1052
01:06:27,872 --> 01:06:31,631
I think it's a
wait-and-see kind of thing.
1053
01:06:54,231 --> 01:06:57,992
We bottled the wine
and we had to get a pulse
1054
01:06:58,112 --> 01:07:00,832
and we wanted to put it
in front of professionals
1055
01:07:00,992 --> 01:07:03,392
to see what we had achieved.
1056
01:07:05,832 --> 01:07:07,272
I think it represents
1057
01:07:07,392 --> 01:07:09,352
- the Persian culture very well.
- Yeah, it's very nice.
1058
01:07:10,192 --> 01:07:12,352
Came out beautifully,
it's wonderful.
1059
01:07:12,512 --> 01:07:13,472
Yeah.
1060
01:07:13,632 --> 01:07:15,392
- Yeah.
- I like it, yeah.
1061
01:07:15,992 --> 01:07:17,592
I'm sure people
will like it, too.
1062
01:07:19,352 --> 01:07:21,432
Before we release the wine,
1063
01:07:21,552 --> 01:07:24,432
we can know what kind
of product we have
1064
01:07:24,552 --> 01:07:26,592
and how to approach it
and how to release it
1065
01:07:26,713 --> 01:07:28,353
and what we're going
to do next,
1066
01:07:28,473 --> 01:07:30,312
and New York is
the place to do it.
1067
01:07:30,432 --> 01:07:34,152
New York City is
the most dynamic.
1068
01:07:34,272 --> 01:07:37,273
Top restaurants and
the top sommeliers.
1069
01:07:38,353 --> 01:07:41,793
Well, I'm very nervous
because it's one thing
1070
01:07:41,913 --> 01:07:45,392
you make the wine, you
taste it during its progress
1071
01:07:45,512 --> 01:07:47,472
and you become very
acquainted to it.
1072
01:07:47,592 --> 01:07:49,352
And then you can
be often biased,
1073
01:07:49,473 --> 01:07:51,233
so it's very important
not to be biased.
1074
01:07:51,353 --> 01:07:56,072
So that's the anxiety,
if anything, I have
1075
01:07:56,193 --> 01:07:59,713
and butterflies right
before we taste,
1076
01:07:59,833 --> 01:08:02,873
because, "What if,
what if," in my mind.
1077
01:08:29,833 --> 01:08:31,233
I've been carrying
these things.
1078
01:08:31,353 --> 01:08:33,033
I'll put it down
before I break it.
1079
01:08:33,153 --> 01:08:34,833
All right,
it made it all this way.
1080
01:08:34,953 --> 01:08:36,193
Amazing.
1081
01:08:47,393 --> 01:08:49,593
- Hi.
- Oh, sorry.
1082
01:08:49,713 --> 01:08:50,754
Dustin, good to see you.
How's it going?
1083
01:08:50,914 --> 01:08:52,233
- Good, you?
- Pleasure.
1084
01:08:52,353 --> 01:08:53,354
- Nice to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
1085
01:08:53,473 --> 01:08:54,513
- Lovely show.
- Thank you.
1086
01:08:54,633 --> 01:08:56,273
Thanks very much.
Yeah, absolutely.
1087
01:08:56,394 --> 01:08:57,833
Looking forward
to tasting with you. - Very excited to meet you.
1088
01:08:57,953 --> 01:08:59,353
You've come a long
way to get here.
1089
01:09:00,833 --> 01:09:03,794
So, first bottle, you'll
be the first to taste it,
1090
01:09:03,914 --> 01:09:04,793
outside of Armenia.
1091
01:09:04,913 --> 01:09:06,114
- Armenia--
- Wow.
1092
01:09:06,274 --> 01:09:07,874
Where we made at the
winery, we've tasted it.
1093
01:09:08,034 --> 01:09:10,114
But outside you will
be the first, so--
1094
01:09:10,234 --> 01:09:12,233
- This has come a long way.
- I'm a bit apprehensive.
1095
01:09:12,353 --> 01:09:14,634
I don't know, but I'm guessing
1096
01:09:14,754 --> 01:09:16,473
it will do just fine, you know?
1097
01:09:16,593 --> 01:09:19,274
You're a tough judge,
I'm guessing.
1098
01:09:19,394 --> 01:09:21,393
It's not like my
friends or something,
1099
01:09:21,513 --> 01:09:23,954
so your input will be,
you know, because it's--
1100
01:09:24,074 --> 01:09:25,314
- I've heard the story.
- No one's tasted it,
1101
01:09:25,474 --> 01:09:27,794
so I'm apprehensive,
will people like it,
1102
01:09:27,914 --> 01:09:30,234
and the whole journey to
make something like this.
1103
01:09:30,354 --> 01:09:32,234
- Right.
- And then you're kind of like,
1104
01:09:32,353 --> 01:09:34,514
was it all worth it,
you know, so.
1105
01:09:34,634 --> 01:09:36,354
Right, well,
what do you think?
1106
01:09:36,514 --> 01:09:38,513
Yeah, no, I think
of course, it's worth it.
1107
01:09:38,634 --> 01:09:39,874
- Yeah.
- Hopefully,
1108
01:09:40,034 --> 01:09:42,314
it's the first bottle,
1109
01:09:42,434 --> 01:09:44,914
actually without
over dramatizing it,
1110
01:09:45,034 --> 01:09:48,114
it will be the first
bottle of fine Iranian wine
1111
01:09:48,234 --> 01:09:50,994
- ever made in the last 40, 50--
- Wow.
1112
01:09:51,114 --> 01:09:52,674
Forty-some years.
1113
01:09:52,794 --> 01:09:54,154
And before that there
was no technology
1114
01:09:54,275 --> 01:09:55,714
- to make wines like this.
- Sure.
1115
01:09:55,874 --> 01:09:59,834
So this would be
the first bottle made,
1116
01:09:59,954 --> 01:10:02,554
modern style wine
in the history of Iran,
1117
01:10:02,674 --> 01:10:03,834
let's put it that way.
1118
01:10:03,954 --> 01:10:05,874
So for what it's worth,
we tasted it
1119
01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:10,554
and I am hoping, I'm hoping
we are onto something.
1120
01:10:10,674 --> 01:10:12,554
Now what do
you hope to accomplish with this wine?
1121
01:10:12,674 --> 01:10:15,515
- Do you have some--
- This wine, just start curiosity,
1122
01:10:15,635 --> 01:10:18,074
I think, you know?
1123
01:10:18,194 --> 01:10:20,634
You know, the romantic in me
says maybe the government
1124
01:10:20,754 --> 01:10:23,995
might allow a little
bit of wine to be made
1125
01:10:24,115 --> 01:10:27,074
within a decade or
maybe two decades.
1126
01:10:27,234 --> 01:10:29,915
Things will open up and we'll
be able to taste more wines.
1127
01:10:30,035 --> 01:10:32,195
Well, it's a way more humble
answer than I was expecting.
1128
01:10:32,355 --> 01:10:34,754
- Yeah.
- I mean, you could do a lot with this thing.
1129
01:10:34,914 --> 01:10:37,155
- Yeah.
- Change the whole world.
1130
01:10:37,315 --> 01:10:39,554
- If you don't mind opening it.
- I'd be happy to.
1131
01:10:39,675 --> 01:10:41,275
- Yeah.
- Thanks.
1132
01:10:43,315 --> 01:10:46,435
Honored to be the first
one to taste this with you.
1133
01:10:46,595 --> 01:10:48,594
I'm honored to taste
it with you also.
1134
01:10:48,715 --> 01:10:49,875
Do you wanna do the honors?
1135
01:10:49,995 --> 01:10:51,754
- May I?
- Yeah, of course, of course.
1136
01:10:51,875 --> 01:10:52,995
So tell me about
the label here.
1137
01:10:53,155 --> 01:10:54,115
Okay.
1138
01:10:54,275 --> 01:10:55,355
It's from the Iranian motifs.
1139
01:10:55,475 --> 01:10:56,635
This is very typical.
1140
01:10:56,755 --> 01:10:59,875
Molana is a very
famous poet, Rumi.
1141
01:10:59,995 --> 01:11:01,755
- Rasheh is the grape.
- Yeah.
1142
01:11:01,875 --> 01:11:04,075
Sardasht is the region.
1143
01:11:04,195 --> 01:11:06,556
And here I added
a little bit of--
1144
01:11:06,675 --> 01:11:09,195
I saw that, yeah.
1145
01:11:09,755 --> 01:11:10,995
- All right.
- It's the first bottling.
1146
01:11:11,115 --> 01:11:12,915
- Moment of truth, as they say.
- All right.
1147
01:11:13,035 --> 01:11:16,355
Honored to be able to
serve you your wine.
1148
01:11:16,515 --> 01:11:18,315
My heartbeat is 120.
1149
01:11:20,796 --> 01:11:25,115
And my misery,
so you can taste the wine.
1150
01:11:28,476 --> 01:11:30,276
Good fruit, nice.
1151
01:11:31,876 --> 01:11:33,116
I'm sorry I don't have
1152
01:11:33,235 --> 01:11:34,995
any Reidel Rasheh
glasses here for you.
1153
01:11:35,115 --> 01:11:38,036
No, no, I don't--
It's going to be a while.
1154
01:11:38,155 --> 01:11:39,915
- Slightly nervous?
- A little bit, yeah.
1155
01:11:40,035 --> 01:11:42,196
More, I am definitely
nervous. Yeah.
1156
01:11:42,316 --> 01:11:44,236
- Cheers, sorry.
- Thank you, this is wild.
1157
01:11:44,356 --> 01:11:46,956
Thank you. Thanks
for having-- having me.
1158
01:11:48,675 --> 01:11:52,235
It will open up a bit.
I think it's cold because...
1159
01:11:52,356 --> 01:11:53,916
So it's fresh, nice,
bright fruit.
1160
01:11:54,035 --> 01:11:55,395
- It smells great.
- Yeah.
1161
01:11:55,516 --> 01:11:57,156
A nice little black cherry,
I think, you know.
1162
01:11:57,276 --> 01:11:59,635
I'll let you do the
description, too.
1163
01:12:01,276 --> 01:12:03,316
Mostly cherry, I think.
1164
01:12:05,955 --> 01:12:07,916
Good fruit. Good...
1165
01:12:08,036 --> 01:12:12,196
It's for you to say, honestly,
because I've had it a few times.
1166
01:12:20,756 --> 01:12:22,556
You know, it's hard
to place, to compare.
1167
01:12:22,676 --> 01:12:23,836
- It's really good.
- Yeah, yeah.
1168
01:12:23,956 --> 01:12:25,277
- It's really good.
- You like it?
1169
01:12:25,396 --> 01:12:26,316
- Yeah, it's very good.
- Thank you.
1170
01:12:26,436 --> 01:12:27,236
- Yeah.
- Thank you.
1171
01:12:27,356 --> 01:12:28,316
- Cheers.
- Cheers.
1172
01:12:28,436 --> 01:12:29,316
- Thank you.
- Well done.
1173
01:12:29,436 --> 01:12:30,516
- Thank you.
- Wow.
1174
01:12:30,716 --> 01:12:35,116
This is by far
the best Iranian wine
1175
01:12:35,236 --> 01:12:37,276
made in Armenia
that I've ever had.
1176
01:12:37,396 --> 01:12:39,797
Thank you.
1177
01:12:39,917 --> 01:12:41,276
Thank you for sharing this.
1178
01:12:41,396 --> 01:12:45,876
But no, in, in all
seriousness, it's very unique.
1179
01:12:46,196 --> 01:12:48,677
I'm thinking about the
people that harvested that
1180
01:12:48,796 --> 01:12:51,516
and it's just yesterday they
were harvesting table grapes
1181
01:12:51,636 --> 01:12:52,557
and today they're
harvesting this,
1182
01:12:52,677 --> 01:12:54,396
but here we are in New York City
1183
01:12:54,516 --> 01:12:57,197
drinking the fruits of
their labor and yours,
1184
01:12:57,317 --> 01:13:00,156
and it's amazing when you
think about how many people
1185
01:13:00,276 --> 01:13:02,437
are involved in producing
this and the worlds
1186
01:13:02,557 --> 01:13:04,516
and lives that they
live to put it together
1187
01:13:04,676 --> 01:13:05,957
to tell the story in the glass.
1188
01:13:06,077 --> 01:13:07,637
It's pretty, pretty amazing.
1189
01:13:07,757 --> 01:13:12,196
You know, there's
these moments where I've been very lucky
1190
01:13:12,356 --> 01:13:13,757
to drink a lot of great wine.
1191
01:13:13,877 --> 01:13:16,596
And sometimes, you know,
you're drinking something
1192
01:13:16,716 --> 01:13:18,557
that means so much historically,
1193
01:13:18,677 --> 01:13:22,037
or it's so old or it's
such a rare experience
1194
01:13:22,756 --> 01:13:25,356
that that part kind of
takes over, you know,
1195
01:13:25,477 --> 01:13:27,597
and the wine itself might
just be kind of so so.
1196
01:13:27,717 --> 01:13:28,997
- Yeah, yeah.
- You know?
1197
01:13:29,117 --> 01:13:30,757
- This is very cool because--
- It has both.
1198
01:13:30,877 --> 01:13:32,317
This has both. Yeah.
1199
01:13:32,437 --> 01:13:33,957
I mean, I have
friends that are Iranian
1200
01:13:34,077 --> 01:13:35,597
that live in the United States
1201
01:13:35,717 --> 01:13:37,757
and they've never
tasted wine like this.
1202
01:13:37,877 --> 01:13:40,557
And so I can only imagine
what this is like for them,
1203
01:13:40,677 --> 01:13:43,317
for, you know, having family
or knowing an appreciation
1204
01:13:43,437 --> 01:13:45,477
for where they came from
to be able to drink this
1205
01:13:45,638 --> 01:13:49,637
with people they love that
have endured a lot to be here,
1206
01:13:49,758 --> 01:13:53,077
so I think that's really
special from that standpoint.
1207
01:13:53,197 --> 01:13:57,397
I think it's great
for the wine community,
1208
01:13:57,517 --> 01:13:58,918
wine loving community,
1209
01:13:59,078 --> 01:14:01,157
and then of course
the Iranian community
1210
01:14:01,278 --> 01:14:03,077
who haven't had Iranian wine
1211
01:14:03,198 --> 01:14:06,117
since they left
Iran or any Iranian
1212
01:14:06,277 --> 01:14:08,358
in the last 40-some years.
1213
01:14:34,558 --> 01:14:36,238
Hey, can I have you?
1214
01:14:38,597 --> 01:14:39,878
Follow me.
1215
01:14:43,358 --> 01:14:45,558
Follow me up top.
1216
01:14:49,038 --> 01:14:51,638
Well, they have
something for you.
1217
01:14:54,438 --> 01:14:55,838
Oh, my God.
1218
01:14:55,958 --> 01:14:56,959
You wanna read it?
1219
01:14:57,078 --> 01:14:58,158
Yeah.
1220
01:14:58,278 --> 01:14:59,718
- Do you know what this is?
- Glasses.
1221
01:14:59,839 --> 01:15:01,038
Do you know what it is?
1222
01:15:01,678 --> 01:15:03,038
Is it from Armenia?
1223
01:15:03,158 --> 01:15:05,198
Keep going, keep reading it.
1224
01:15:08,038 --> 01:15:10,438
- Iranian...
- Dad, they've--
1225
01:15:10,558 --> 01:15:12,999
this is the first wine
that's been made out of Iran.
1226
01:15:13,158 --> 01:15:14,759
They smuggled the grapes.
1227
01:15:15,518 --> 01:15:17,639
- Took it--
- That's amazing.
1228
01:15:17,758 --> 01:15:18,798
How do you feel?
1229
01:15:20,198 --> 01:15:21,199
Emotional.
1230
01:15:24,598 --> 01:15:26,839
- That's so great.
- Yeah.
1231
01:15:28,879 --> 01:15:31,718
So this is-- this is
history coming back.
1232
01:15:32,599 --> 01:15:33,638
Thanks.
1233
01:15:33,758 --> 01:15:35,159
You wanna open it?
1234
01:15:35,278 --> 01:15:36,519
Sure.
1235
01:15:37,959 --> 01:15:39,918
Dad, I'm gonna cry.
1236
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:42,879
I can't even see right now.
1237
01:15:49,518 --> 01:15:52,238
So, that daughter and father,
1238
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:58,119
they smuggled in the grapes
to Armenia
1239
01:15:58,239 --> 01:15:59,079
and they...
1240
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,479
From Shiraz or?
1241
01:16:01,639 --> 01:16:02,518
Sardasht, yeah.
1242
01:16:02,639 --> 01:16:03,839
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1243
01:16:03,959 --> 01:16:06,519
Yeah, I used to
pass through that town
1244
01:16:06,639 --> 01:16:09,239
almost every week
with your mom. -
1245
01:16:10,759 --> 01:16:12,559
They have
great grapes in there.
1246
01:16:12,679 --> 01:16:14,119
Yeah, so...
1247
01:16:17,999 --> 01:16:20,279
You wanna pour it?
I'll give you the honors.
1248
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,919
- Cheers.
- Cheers.
1249
01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:34,559
Be salamati.
1250
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,400
- You could smell the dirt.
- Mm-hmm.
1251
01:16:44,519 --> 01:16:47,519
"This wine was crafted
to transcend time and place.
1252
01:16:47,639 --> 01:16:49,839
Named after the
prolific Persian poet,
1253
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,120
the wine resembles
its namesake emphasis
1254
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,480
on purity and elegance.
1255
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,400
It is fresh and
playful on the palate
1256
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,239
with a strong
sense of provenance
1257
01:16:58,359 --> 01:17:00,959
due to the terroir the
grapes were grown in.
1258
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:04,360
Rumi was an experimental
innovator among the Persian poets
1259
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,560
who had a mystical appeal
and bold poetic forms.
1260
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:09,520
This wine echoes just that."
1261
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,840
That is so great.
1262
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,040
Molana, yeah.
1263
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,160
I really smell the place.
1264
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,080
I'm serious.
1265
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,080
Well,
they did a great job.
1266
01:17:36,041 --> 01:17:37,920
It's like bringing
everyone together again.
1267
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,880
And that Armenians
make great, great wines.
1268
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,360
They're just known
for it throughout the history, actually.
1269
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:53,680
I really feel not only very
honored, but very emotional.
1270
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,881
They did a great job.
1271
01:17:57,001 --> 01:17:58,320
You know, I'm even--
1272
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:00,561
I'm gonna drink quite
a bit of this tonight.
1273
01:18:00,841 --> 01:18:05,400
Well, hopefully, one day
we'll have our wine in there.
1274
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,601
Well, at least we can
share some with the family.
1275
01:18:27,681 --> 01:18:29,161
For thousands
of years, bottles of wine
1276
01:18:29,321 --> 01:18:32,241
have graced our dinner
tables on a regular basis.
1277
01:18:32,721 --> 01:18:35,321
Common dinner table topics
that are not to be discussed
1278
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:37,521
are religion, politics.
1279
01:18:38,721 --> 01:18:40,921
But the truth is
that bottle of wine
1280
01:18:41,041 --> 01:18:42,521
sitting in the
middle of that table
1281
01:18:42,641 --> 01:18:45,481
came from religion
and survived politics
1282
01:18:45,641 --> 01:18:47,721
to get to that place.
1283
01:18:55,722 --> 01:18:59,041
There is a certain poetic
beauty of continuing something
1284
01:18:59,161 --> 01:19:03,481
that people started
6,000, 7,000 years ago.
1285
01:19:03,601 --> 01:19:05,681
And if you don't have
that kind of poetic beauty
1286
01:19:05,801 --> 01:19:08,961
in your life, what's
the purpose, really?
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