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It's a very nice process
when people choose their names.
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Or when their friends
think and give them some name.
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I chose this name for
myself in my childhood.
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I admire Gautam Buddha a lot.
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If I am unable to find
a solution for something,
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I read about him.
And I find the solution.
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So basically, this name was
given to me by a partner.
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She is also an SRK fan.
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Shah Rukh Khan's son. Of course.
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There is no other reason why
I have called myself as Aryan.
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At LGBTQ parties,
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whenever I would dress up
as Madhuri and dance to her songs…
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people would appreciate it.
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"'You dance like Madhuri.
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You are our Madhuri."
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So people started
knowing me as Madhuri.
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My name is Patruni
Chidananda Sastry.
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I am a drag artist and
a pansexual person,
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married to a heterosexual woman.
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I always didn't like
the word bro, pal.
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You know, the binaries which
are very evident in the language.
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I am not a bro.
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I don't want them
to call me Sastryji or Sastry Garu.
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I always prefer people calling me
by my name.
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My love is more for Khusrau.
Amir Khusrau.
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So I thought I would call myself Amir.
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And then, Khusrau. And it didn't work.
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Then I said Rumi. That's it.
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When I first came to Maee,
I thought I would work
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with my community and teach
them about the LGBTQ community.
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When I saw that there was
no education in the community,
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I asked myself a question.
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Teena, they don't
know that L is for lion.
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When you will teach them L
is for lesbian will they understand?
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During that time Maee was working
extensively on education.
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Tauqeer has been working for the Van
Gujjar community's education since 2018.
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He has been leading
Maee and all of us.
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Talking about the community Teena
is the only trans person in the community.
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That was the biggest
challenge in itself.
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Gradually, she started
visiting the library.
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She started having
dialogues with the youth.
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Wrote some skits in our own language.
On different issues.
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On gender equality. Talking about
Woman health. Menstrual health. Hygiene.
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She's been doing this work till now.
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Whenever she sits with women,
they never feel awkward.
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She works pretty well
with men as well.
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In the last one and a half years,
I've never seen anyone reject her.
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Eventually, she began tutoring children.
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Children really like her.
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People shouldn't be
biased about a person.
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We have made genders.
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Male, female, and third gender.
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It shouldn't be like that.
A human is a human.
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This should end gradually.
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This is orange.
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Honestly speaking,
they are beyond all these things.
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Gender, society, or other things.
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All they need is love and support.
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They support it and they love it.
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So seeing how things have been going, I
think kids are more accepting towards me.
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I don't have money.
But people give me respect.
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That she is a teacher.
She teaches children.
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When I saw these things,
I felt very happy.
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Fine.
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Maee has given me so much.
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The law was passed in 2014.
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Now it's 2022.
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I think it's 50% on paper…
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50% things are changing.
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But not completely.
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If we talk about human beings,
we shouldn't talk about gender.
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Gender becomes meaningless.
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When Babasaheb Ambedkar wrote the law,
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he wrote it for people.
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Not for any particular gender.
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It should be equal for everybody.
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I still have not received
my marriage certificate.
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They told me,
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"Madam, rectify your gender as female,
in all your documents."
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"You will get the
marriage certificate."
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But I said, "No. All my documents
state that I am transgender."
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On the Aadhar Card and voter's card,
it's written "transgender".
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So why can't I get the marriage
certificate as a transgender?
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I have still not got the right to adopt.
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Why doesn't the law state that?
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I am also a human being.
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I also want to be a mother.
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Why don't I have that right legally?
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It states…
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that trans women will get
all the rights of a woman.
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I should also have the right to marry.
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A woman has the right
to become a mother.
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The TG bill doesn't state that.
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Like I said, 50% of it's happening.
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But the remaining 50% is only on paper.
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I was thinking very
far away from the reality.
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What if my child is out,
if he is going to school,
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I am performing drag somewhere,
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more visible as a trans-person.
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In some or other kind of space.
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And this child goes.
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And there are some other
people who would be bullying him.
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Showing his father.
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What would be the situation of
that particular child?
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I was very scared of that as well.
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A friend of mine who was
there with me at that point of time,
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I had shared this idea with her.
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She is like, okay,
it's your responsibility.
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You can't change the society.
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But you can at least
change the child's idea
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of how to tackle the hate.
That is one way you can do it.
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Or you can invest
in the spaces and
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prepare the spaces in a
far more better way.
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And once, you know, somebody starts…
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there is always a chain of people
who will kind of come and contribute.
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It gave me a lot of strength.
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That okay.
I would let a child come out.
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One thing I realize is it
would not be easy for me or for Raji.
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Or for the child.
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With the spaces which we are in.
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You know, we don't have
books about how to raise a child
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genderless or gender friendly.
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But I will ensure that my love would be
kind of transcended to the person.
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And I will ensure that they do
not have an unsafe place around them.
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Unless and until you touch the fire
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you will not know how fire feels.
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So I think I need to do that.
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And the fire is on the way.
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Once that comes out,
it will give us more ideas and light.
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To lead the life in a far better way.
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I work at a very large
industrial manufacturing company.
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As a transformation
for human resources lead.
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That means digital transformation,
a lot of technology that comes into
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what makes a workplace today.
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Everyone wants a
respectful workplace.
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They want…
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For making any institution inclusive,
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it is important that you know,
we have that space safe for trans people.
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Which is where, with that idea, we decided
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that we are going to transform all
our workplaces.
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It started with the LGBTQ
employee resource group.
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When this was launched, the term
we used that, this is something
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we should have done decades ago.
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The fact that in many of these cases
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it is me being present.
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Me talking
about this topic amongst
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everyone who is not a believer.
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I think that in itself
has been extremely
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transformative for many people.
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What I see has changed
in the next few years
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in these organizations,
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that we have reached out
to my own organization,
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is that the whole point
of questioning has reduced a lot.
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What I am really glad about is that
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for a 100-year-old company,
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we have been able
to transform the culture.
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It's one of the
biggest transformations
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that I have seen
myself in the company.
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The pandemic was hard.
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Because I couldn't go out.
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And dress up.
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Or be myself or express myself.
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But I did work in the
pandemic with trans people.
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Especially feeding trans people.
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Because they were out of work.
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So I felt nice.
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Last year when I joined a transgender
health clinic in Pune.
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The second-of-its-kind clinic,
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holistic clinic in India.
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I joined there and I had to work
as a counselor.
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I loved my job.
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I interacted with so
many transgender and hijra folks.
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I understood their life journeys.
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How things work for them.
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How has their life story been?
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So a lot of my time went into that.
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And a lot of community work.
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In my other free time…
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Sensitizing colleges,
schools, and corporates.
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I felt so empowered being
around these trans folks.
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I always think about courage.
I am like, where do I draw it from?
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So I draw it from the trans elders.
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The trans people who came before me.
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That worked hard for
me to have this space.
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For me to have this
conversation right now.
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I couldn't dream of studying.
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And I don't have the money or funds.
But with two friends…
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they helped me dream of studying abroad.
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I am going to study for an M.A.
in human rights.
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I am very excited.
I received the scholarship from
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Samaj Kalyan Social
Welfare Department.
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I would be officially
the first trans person.
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And then more trans friends
can also apply.
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And get Ivy League education or higher
education anywhere they want.
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And this will be replicated in
different states all across India.
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I think I will be in London
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when you all are watching this.
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We are designing a curriculum.
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There are Van Gujjars'
stories and folklore.
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I am doing illustrations for that
to depict things.
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I have made some 200 illustrations.
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I want to illustrate
many things beautifully.
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Whenever I draw,
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I keep my mind completely blank.
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Recently I sat down to draw illustrations.
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Wonder what came over me.
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I drew a big face.
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I drew short hair like mine.
I drew a nose ring.
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Eyebrows. Nose. Ears.
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A veil covering half the face.
And I wrote "My Hidden Beauty".
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Some people come and ask
me whether I am a male or a female.
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When it bothers me,
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I develop a feeling of hatred for myself.
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Why don't you have those things?
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People are unable to identify you.
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You are saying you are trans.
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But when people
don't understand trans,
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what are you doing for them
so that they can understand you?
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This question keeps bothering me.
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Why?
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Transition is important for me
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because my mind is
inclined towards that.
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And…
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somewhere, I want to
give clarity to myself.
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I want to give a side to myself.
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As far as living openly
or wearing clothes is concerned,
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I wish I was living
in a city like Delhi.
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Doing a small-time job.
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Maybe people wouldn't
have noticed it so much there.
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And I could have dressed up.
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This current relationship I think is
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the most peaceful
relationship I have.
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Most compassionate.
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My personal growth has
happened in this relationship.
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The dynamic is so multicultural,
and multidimensional.
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So much more colorful.
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Both of us have come
from different wounds…
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from families, from friends.
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But…
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we have just been
able to deal with it.
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In some or another way.
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My dad would call her
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when she comes to my place.
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Should I get this sweet for you?
But he never called me.
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So you need to know.
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My family loves her more
than they loved me.
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You know.
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So, yeah. They are all about her.
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My mom goes out. My sister goes out.
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The things that they get for them,
they get for her as well.
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So around three years of relationship.
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Almost… we finished three years in 2023.
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I went to this place
where my partner was there.
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And they didn't know about me.
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Visiting the place where
they had gone for some work.
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ARYAN'S LOVE STORY
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I went to the place
where they were staying.
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I just told them that,
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you know, I have sent a gift for you.
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The chain and the locket are
at the reception.
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The ring I wanted to give myself.
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They went to the reception
and they collected it.
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And then they were calling.
They were video calling.
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I was just standing behind them.
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And then, it was…
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They were extremely happy.
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When we were returning
after having dinner,
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she asked me.
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"Does this ring signify something?
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Or you just gave it like that."
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I am like, "It does."
You know. You know.
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And then, she is like,
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"Are you officially asking me out?"
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And I am like,
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"Why do you want to know all that?"
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She is like, "You have to ask."
I am like, "Fine. Tell me."
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You know, I was so bad at it.
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So bad. I feel so ashamed.
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I am like, "Tell. What it is?"
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And she is like, "Oh, my God.
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Aryan, you are not even
asking me out correctly."
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I am like, "Yeah."
Just deal with it.
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You know. Then she said,
"Of course, it's a yes."
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Is that even a question, you know?
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So yeah.
Things happened. It was funny.
286
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Yeah. It was very good after that.
287
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Before finishing my course,
I got a job in Surat.
288
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Then many other cities…
I worked all over India.
289
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Everywhere, I was trying to
290
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search for an atmosphere
where I could survive.
291
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Everyone was good,
292
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but till this time I am not
a trans person or a queer person.
293
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As soon as they get to know,
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the atmosphere is not good.
295
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I changed 13 hospitals in one year…
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in 2013.
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To reach my destination in…
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Faridabad.
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The last hospital where I worked
for 10 years.
300
00:21:05,875 --> 00:21:10,833
Then I suddenly came out to them that I
wanted to do my transitioning, etc.
301
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They were very happy.
Accepting. Okay. Congratulated me.
302
00:21:15,250 --> 00:21:18,666
And… do whatever you want.
We are there for you.
303
00:21:20,541 --> 00:21:23,916
The main head at that time
was supportive.
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Recently, he got replaced.
305
00:21:33,958 --> 00:21:35,500
A new HR came.
306
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"I am giving you two months' time,
and you can move anywhere.
307
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We don't have any problem.
308
00:21:41,041 --> 00:21:42,500
But we can't keep you here."
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I felt very bad because,
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you had given your 10 years to someone,
311
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and then they asked you to move.
312
00:21:58,875 --> 00:22:01,208
I have experience.
Who will not give me a job?
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Everyone will give me a job.
314
00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:08,041
I got a job…
I got many offers.
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Not just one.
316
00:22:23,666 --> 00:22:27,708
The house that I used to live in
is the last before the forest begins.
317
00:22:28,208 --> 00:22:31,208
One of my first explorations
was in the jungle.
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And in the jungle, I can
actually feel like myself.
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I could be anything that I wanted.
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I could play any role and create
any sort of character that I wanted.
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Sometimes they were
authoritative characters.
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Characters who had confidence in them,
who could control the world,
323
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who could make large-scale changes.
324
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,500
And thankfully because magic
is not a no-go there,
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I was able to create magical characters.
326
00:22:57,958 --> 00:23:00,041
The natural way I could bring it about
327
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:03,125
was by writing stories
and writing them down.
328
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,708
All the stories that I wrote,
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00:23:06,125 --> 00:23:08,625
usually start with a character
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fallen in midst of a world
that they don't understand.
331
00:23:12,875 --> 00:23:16,291
And the whole journey
of the characters there…
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00:23:16,666 --> 00:23:19,458
was trying to piece out,
trying to piece out
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all this understanding of the world.
334
00:23:26,833 --> 00:23:30,541
I had created some
rudimentary kind of a script
335
00:23:32,166 --> 00:23:35,250
I'd had a few discussions
with a couple of producers.
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00:23:35,833 --> 00:23:36,750
It was really liked.
337
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:40,625
It has been quite interesting.
338
00:23:40,875 --> 00:23:42,750
You know, this world of filmmaking.
339
00:23:42,875 --> 00:23:46,583
This world of, you know,
creating images which last forever.
340
00:23:46,708 --> 00:23:49,875
Which makes such a large impact.
341
00:23:50,708 --> 00:23:53,333
So for me, that is the transformation
342
00:23:53,458 --> 00:23:56,333
that I came here, to this city for.
343
00:24:05,125 --> 00:24:07,625
So what you need to do is…
344
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:12,541
if you have access to the internet,
ask them to write a request letter…
345
00:24:13,083 --> 00:24:18,208
I think in 2003 and 2004
it was this boy whom I met
346
00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:21,041
in one festival that we had organized.
347
00:24:22,416 --> 00:24:25,458
He came like one young "kutty" boy.
348
00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:28,708
And slowly he becomes a friend.
349
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:36,375
Actually, Sunil and I, our relationship
350
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,583
started on a very strong
base of friendship.
351
00:24:43,125 --> 00:24:45,250
We separated in all possible ways.
352
00:24:45,458 --> 00:24:48,958
But in work and politics,
we never separated.
353
00:24:55,041 --> 00:24:57,041
We have done crisis intervention work
354
00:24:57,166 --> 00:25:00,000
for like 19 years together.
355
00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:02,500
It was our personal
numbers that were getting
356
00:25:02,625 --> 00:25:03,791
circulated in the community.
357
00:25:03,916 --> 00:25:05,708
Especially the female-assigned community.
358
00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:09,291
I haven't changed my personal number
for the last 25 years.
359
00:25:09,416 --> 00:25:12,250
Because it runs as a hotline.
360
00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:15,208
Only now, in the last
two years, it is not doing that.
361
00:25:17,333 --> 00:25:20,291
We also decided to
do the transition together.
362
00:25:23,125 --> 00:25:26,375
I always had this inside,
but could never express it outside.
363
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:29,833
And then, when I did express,
it was again Sunil
364
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who was my partner,
365
00:25:32,291 --> 00:25:34,208
who helped me
through the transition
366
00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:37,041
and stood by me as my friend.
367
00:25:37,791 --> 00:25:43,333
Starting from the haircut to dress
to all the kinds of breast binding.
368
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:44,791
Etc. Etc. Etc.
369
00:25:44,916 --> 00:25:46,750
It was all taught by him.
370
00:25:51,291 --> 00:25:53,291
We did not even have
the faintest idea that
371
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someday we would be like this.
372
00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,833
Then he went through a stroke.
And then,
373
00:26:00,416 --> 00:26:02,583
his partner left him.
374
00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:04,458
And he was lonely.
375
00:26:04,583 --> 00:26:06,541
And I was thrown out
of the house at that time.
376
00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,625
And I requested him for space.
377
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:10,708
And then, we started living together.
378
00:26:20,583 --> 00:26:24,875
That's when we first time thought
that we should have homes like…
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00:26:25,916 --> 00:26:28,916
where people don't feel that when you are
380
00:26:29,041 --> 00:26:30,875
thrown out of the house
in the middle of the night
381
00:26:31,083 --> 00:26:32,625
they know that there is a place to go.
382
00:26:34,541 --> 00:26:36,958
It shouldn't happen like
how it happened to me or to him.
383
00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,208
That's when in a rented house,
384
00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:45,916
we opened up the house to everybody.
385
00:26:46,583 --> 00:26:47,750
It could be sex workers.
386
00:26:47,875 --> 00:26:50,166
It could be trans women.
It could be trans men.
387
00:26:50,291 --> 00:26:51,875
It could be whosoever
for that matter.
388
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,333
And after my mother's death,
389
00:26:53,458 --> 00:26:56,500
we bought this current flat
where we are living.
390
00:26:56,625 --> 00:26:59,666
And then we said we will keep it open.
391
00:26:59,791 --> 00:27:02,500
As of now, it's Sunil's mother,
392
00:27:02,625 --> 00:27:04,750
Sunil, my father, and me.
393
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,291
And another trans man.
394
00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:07,791
With three cats.
395
00:27:26,958 --> 00:27:29,458
"Guftagu" is a small therapeutic space.
396
00:27:30,625 --> 00:27:31,541
It's a clinic.
397
00:27:31,666 --> 00:27:34,166
That we run in Vashi.
Me and my business partner.
398
00:27:35,041 --> 00:27:37,125
We provide therapy.
We provide training.
399
00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:39,541
We provide workshops.
We provide seminars.
400
00:27:40,291 --> 00:27:41,750
We provide support groups.
401
00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:44,875
And I am a clinical psychologist.
402
00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:48,583
Clinical psychologists are those who
403
00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:53,083
work on mental health-related issues.
404
00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:58,208
When I started my work,
I was working with everybody.
405
00:27:58,416 --> 00:28:01,750
But currently, I am working with
only queer and trans people.
406
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,166
I want to now start "Sunday Chill" days.
407
00:28:07,791 --> 00:28:08,958
Everybody can come.
408
00:28:09,291 --> 00:28:11,833
Whoever wants to come can come.
There is no membership.
409
00:28:14,583 --> 00:28:17,208
Space where not only
hardships are discussed.
410
00:28:17,333 --> 00:28:19,125
But also hopes are discussed.
411
00:28:20,291 --> 00:28:24,041
I would say, that lack… the gap…
412
00:28:25,125 --> 00:28:26,083
that gap…
413
00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:29,583
is of vulnerability
414
00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:33,333
I think in our country
that is missing in relations.
415
00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:36,208
Emotions. Emotion is vulnerability.
416
00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:38,625
Unless you are vulnerable
417
00:28:39,166 --> 00:28:41,833
unless you say you need them…
418
00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:45,833
that is our biggest
difficulty as human beings.
419
00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:47,541
Not only in India. Anywhere.
420
00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:49,333
We don't want to be vulnerable.
421
00:28:50,791 --> 00:28:53,208
We see that as a weakness. Why?
422
00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:55,250
Vulnerability helps in forming bonds.
423
00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:58,416
How will bonds be formed without
vulnerability? That will be exchanged.
424
00:28:59,833 --> 00:29:02,083
I want to give a space
for community as emotion.
425
00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,916
Not as what is correct, or incorrect.
426
00:29:05,416 --> 00:29:06,458
That I am not interested in.
427
00:29:06,583 --> 00:29:10,333
I am interested in how we can come
together as interdependent people.
428
00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,916
Interdependent will
need vulnerability.
429
00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:15,541
I want to go back to vulnerability.
430
00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:18,416
And I cannot stop
talking about it. Yeah.
431
00:29:35,541 --> 00:29:38,500
The college from where I did
my diploma graduation,
432
00:29:39,291 --> 00:29:42,916
a trans woman came out in that college.
433
00:29:45,291 --> 00:29:48,958
Maybe her friends and her
434
00:29:49,916 --> 00:29:52,291
family were not supportive.
435
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:59,333
And I think the doctor she consulted
gave some false information.
436
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:03,791
Due to which she attempted suicide.
437
00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:06,708
It shook me up completely.
438
00:30:07,416 --> 00:30:10,125
She was from my college,
from my community.
439
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:11,583
And I was unable to do anything.
440
00:30:13,625 --> 00:30:17,208
That's when I decided
to organize a pride march.
441
00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:20,583
In such a way that the entire
Tripura finds out about it.
442
00:30:25,208 --> 00:30:30,375
Last year the first pride
walk was organized in Tripura.
443
00:30:31,458 --> 00:30:36,833
For the first time, we were holding
teh LGBTQ community flag in Tripura.
444
00:30:39,625 --> 00:30:41,125
I have a vision.
445
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:43,583
In the next five years, we will
446
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,375
have such an organization in Tripura
447
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,250
where we will provide
employment to queer people.
448
00:30:49,541 --> 00:30:51,958
That's my plan for the near future.
449
00:30:58,041 --> 00:31:00,375
My agenda is basically to kind of
450
00:31:00,750 --> 00:31:03,791
unbox the spaces which are
there within my queer community.
451
00:31:04,875 --> 00:31:07,375
I can't be a lone warrior…
kind of fighting everybody.
452
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:10,208
I need people who can kind
of speak up for their own self.
453
00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:16,250
If ten non-binary people
are speaking about their own self,
454
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:18,875
on ten different occasions,
455
00:31:19,166 --> 00:31:20,625
automatically the change is happening.
456
00:31:26,666 --> 00:31:32,125
For past two years, I have been working
in a transgender clinic as a counselor.
457
00:31:33,583 --> 00:31:36,125
It's India's first trans clinic.
458
00:31:38,875 --> 00:31:42,333
Whenever they go for surgery,
459
00:31:42,541 --> 00:31:46,041
there is nobody to
guide them correctly.
460
00:31:46,916 --> 00:31:53,833
I like that I am able to solve the
other person's problem in some way.
461
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:01,916
I plan to work on trans rights.
462
00:32:02,041 --> 00:32:03,208
Trans empowerment.
463
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:08,000
I would like to set up community
centers and shelter homes in India.
464
00:32:08,375 --> 00:32:11,750
I can do this. Hopefully,
in the next five years, somewhere…
465
00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:14,708
I am doing ten percent
of what I have dreamed of.
466
00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:20,041
Relationships are the…
467
00:32:21,666 --> 00:32:23,125
most important thing for everything.
468
00:32:25,375 --> 00:32:29,083
You can't just lose hope.
469
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,583
Hope is way…
470
00:32:33,833 --> 00:32:35,750
more nuanced than what you think.
471
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:41,625
There won't be any miracle.
472
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:44,750
We have to work for it.
And it's happening.
473
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:49,125
Many people from the society
are inviting us today.
474
00:32:49,791 --> 00:32:51,625
They try to make us feel comfortable.
475
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:54,208
But we also need to go.
476
00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:56,250
It should be a two-way street.
477
00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:58,291
The society is taking
a step towards us.
478
00:32:58,458 --> 00:33:02,375
Trans people should also
take a step towards them.
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