All language subtitles for America Unearthed S01E04 Giants in Minnesota

Picking up something down there.

Wait a minute. Hold up. You got
something here.

How many items are down there, Leonard?

Two things laying down there.

The history that we were all taught
growing up is wrong.

My name is Scott Wolpert, and I'm a
forensic geologist.

There's a hidden history in this country
that nobody knows about.

There are pyramids here, chambers.

tombs, inscriptions.

They're all over this country.

We're going to investigate these
artifacts and sites, and we're going to

the truth.

Sometimes history isn't what we've been
told.

Conventional history holds that the
Vikings explored North America as far as

Newfoundland in 1000 A .D.

For decades, people in my home state
have believed they went further west,

coming here to Minnesota.

And not just any Vikings.

Giants.

Hey, Roger. How you doing? Hey, Scott.

Glad to meet you. Nice to finally meet
you. Thanks for inviting me out here.

Well, thanks for coming. Tell me about
the situation.

Well, I accidentally, I was looking for
gravel back to my basement wall.

Okay. Couldn't get to the gravel pit,
you know, the grain fields here. So I

decided to find a place myself and dig
for it.

And I ran into bone, human bones.

All in the 40s, they came in and
determined there were human bones, and

were very old.

Probably Native American, right? Two
were Native, but there's something else

interesting in this equation.

We found one guy in there that his bones
were huge, and they even commented that

it was an unusually large male
individual.

Did the state archaeologists come out
then? The state archaeologists got

involved, and the dynamic was totally
different.

They wanted to get this thing buried as
fast as possible. Really?

When you talk about big bones and a big,
what you think is a big male, this is

reminiscent of giants.

I have something I want to show you
here. It's an article that talks about

giants. That was published in the St.
Paul paper in 1888.

And it says, a prehistoric race.

seven gigantic bodies exhumed while
digging a well near Clearwater,

A race of giants, and they talk about
them being seven to eight feet tall.

Could your guy be that big? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he is.

Okay. Yeah, we're in the same category.

We're in northern Minnesota. You're
probably familiar with Viking Norse

and the idea that the Norse were here.

Oh, there's no doubt. I've been studying
the Norse for years and what they do.

The burial mound system.

All this is Norse technology, and I told
them that.

Okay, Roger.

So where is this mound? The mounds are
just on the other side of the cornfield,

right on the edge of the coon creek.

Okay. Well, I'm anxious to go take a
look. Let's do it. Need your help.

And here we are.

That's where the big guy is buried.

Right here, okay. Right there.

His feet are about approximately right
down here in this area. His head is

located way up here by where that stone
marker is.

Roger, let's measure this.

Take that.

Okay. Yeah. Well, he's about eight to
nine feet long. I'd say eight -six.

That's a big guy.

Wow.

Digging here, you find bones.

The state representative for the Native
Americans comes out. An anthropologist

for the state comes out. And then what
happened? They started digging? They

started doing the archaeological dig.

And their eyes got big because this
guy's bones, I tore his feet off.

And I tore the shoulders and ribcage of
two of these Native girls that were

shoved up against his feet.

The anthropologist said these are
females, right? They were native,

they're a little petite, and they're in
a fetal position, you know, their hands

over their face.

Okay. Did they say that this was a
giant, or they thought it could be, or

exactly did they say?

Very, very large male.

Well out of the ordinary.

There was a lot of these guys around,
but kept quiet, I don't know why.

But this guy was covered up as fast as
he could, too. So it seemed bizarre to

you. There was something not right about
it. Very bizarre, yes.

Well, based on everything that I've
heard so far, what it sounds like to me

you're suggesting there's a cover -up
going on.

I don't see any reason why there is not
a cover -up. I mean, it's so obvious

that you've got an 8 -foot guy sitting
there. Roger, you mentioned that the big

guy was 8 feet long.

Yep. How do you know that?

After we covered everything up and quite
a while later, curiosity got to me. I

had to call in a friend who works the
coppers. The coppers? Well, it's copper.

He's talented with coppers. When you run
over bodies, water, whatever, they'll

cross. Okay, so this is witching, right?
Divining rods? It's witching. What you

call witching?

Witching is also known as dowsing or
divining.

Diviners insist they're able to detect
underground disturbances through copper

rods they hold in their hands.

There's really no scientific explanation
for how it works, but even Einstein

believed that it did.

The practice dates back to medieval
times when people used to use copper

find everything from water to artifacts
to bodies.

He found a whole grave from head to toe.
He found that with his rods. Right.

It's a little over 10 feet long.

I'd like to...

See that.

Scott Walter.

Leonard Engen. Leonard, how are you
doing? Nice to meet you. Hey, Leonard.

How did you get into it?

My dad could do it, and I was 16 when I
started doing it.

And I'm 70 now.

A long time. Yeah. Well, I have to be
honest with you, Leonard. I'm a little

skeptical. I do know that there are a
lot of people that do believe in the

In fact, they are used for finding water
wells. I know that the oil companies,

even Einstein, had a theory of how the
electromagnetic energy could be

through the human body to make the rods
cross.

But having said that, I have an idea,
and if you're up for it, how would you

like to do a little test for us? Sure.
Okay.

I've got a knife about this long. Do you
think if I hit it along the grass here

that you could find it?

Oh, yeah. So I want you to turn around.

Okay. Roger, make sure he doesn't do any
peeking. I just want to double check.

Are the rods going to be able to catch
this knife? Oh, yeah. No problem? No

problem. Okay, here we go.

A little bit of work.

Okay,

Leonard.

Have at it.

Good luck.

it in the grass, too, didn't you? I
found it. Yeah.

Wow.

Obviously, there's something here. We've
got what appears to be a giant.

And if it's a giant, it can't be Native
American. It must be somebody else,

maybe Norse. And if so...

then there should be some other related
artifacts.

There's got to be something else here.
We can't dig here, right?

Absolutely not. No disturbance here
whatsoever.

Okay. And I can appreciate that because
this is a Native American site for sure.

Do we have some other places we could
go? Yeah, we're really limited, you

in the cornfield and what's going on.

We'll have to work my yard. Okay. You
want to give it a try over there? Sure.

All right. Well, let's go. Let's do it.

There, Roger. Lead the way.

All right.

Leonard, do your thing.

You got something right here? You got
something here.

Right here?

Is this a continuous thing?

Mm -hmm.

Could you run this way, Leonard?

Kind of parallels the old thing.

How many items are down there, Leonard?

Two things laying down there. Two
different anomalies, huh?

Right here? Yep.

Okay.

I'm getting something, huh?

Mm -hmm.

We've got some hot spots here that you
said there's something here, right?

are artifacts here. It's okay with you.

Can we dig these up? Yeah. If it's up to
me, you can dig as much as you want

around here. Okay. I've got the perfect
guy, and he can come by tomorrow.

We'll be here bright and early.

Sounds good.

Let me just tell you a little bit about
what happened so far. You know, I went

out to see Roger, and he's an
interesting guy. He took me to these

incredible native mountains, and he had
a friend of his, a guy by the name of

Leonard, who came out with divining rods
and located what they say is a giant in

the ground.

After that, we went out into his
property, and we identified a couple of

other... interesting locations that they
think there's something in the ground

that I'd like to look at. I have a great
interest in pre -Columbian culture

contact. You know, the one pre
-Columbian culture contact that we know

for sure was the contact with the
Vikings.

The one known pre -Columbian Viking site
went from Meadows to Newfoundland.

That's an incredible distance.

In terms of them being here in
Minnesota, I'm a little skeptical. And

if there's a giant Roger property.

You know, I don't expect you to drink
all the pre -Columbian Kool -Aid, you

know, or take the sips that you want.
But you're in Norse country, and there

a lot of Scandinavian immigrants here in
Minnesota. And the legends and the

stories about the ancient Norse coming
to Minnesota are everywhere here.

I get calls.

Routinely, people that think they have
runic inscriptions or ships that they

found, Viking ships.

I mean, even the Minnesota Vikings, the
pro football team is due to the lore and

the legends.

It's a big deal in this area.

It's a big part of local culture,
obviously.

Absolutely, no question.

You know, giants may seem like a
stretch, but there could be some related

artifacts. There's got to be more here,
and that's why I felt it was important.

So we're going to have to look at
Roger's site.

I've learned one thing in archaeology in
the last 15 years is that pretty much

nothing is impossible.

Hey, Roger, how you doing? Good to see
you again. Nice to see you. This is my

friend Mike. Hi, Roger. Nice to meet
you. I'm Mike Arbuthnot. Glad to meet

This is the archaeologist I was telling
you about. Well, I think you're going to

be pretty interested in this site. I'm
glad to have you aboard. Come on.

show me.

Let's do it.

Well, Mike, this is one of the sites
that were marked out yesterday by one of

Roger's friends, Leonard, who used a
technique called water witching is what

called it, but the copper rods where
they walk and then they cross to mark a

location. Dowsing. Sure, yeah, dowsing
is a little bit of an unconventional

archaeological method, but nowadays
archaeologists have a whole arsenal of

remote sensing tools that they can use.
Out here, if we're looking for...

Viking or Scandinavian occupation, and I
would think that a metal detector would

work best here because that's what's
going to set the Vikings apart from the

Native Americans. They're going to have
iron.

They're going to have slag, possibly
bronze.

So we're looking for metals.

What would happen if we found human
remains? We've got to call the medical

examiner. Depending on how old they are,
we might have to bring the state

archaeologist out here. We might have to
bring a Native American representative.

It's like a can of worms.

We want to avoid as much as possible.
What are we doing now? Yeah, let me get

tools, the metal detector, the screen,
and the pink flags, and we'll set up a

grid and start a survey.

This is a good spot right here. If I was
a Viking, this is where I'd want to

camp out. So what I'd like to do is run
the metal detector survey, and we'll set

up a grid, we'll label our transect
lines, A, B, C, D, and so on, and I

sweep the metal detector back and forth,
and if we get a hit, we'll put a pin

flag in the ground, and then that's
where we'll dig.

Okay, yeah, we're about 20 degrees off
north. Perfect.

Do it.

one right here.

Got any flag dive out here? Yeah. Okay.

Got one right there.

Roger.

Thank you.

There we go.

We've got a bunch of sites located here.
We looked at it with Leonard, and now

he'll show us what we might want to do
here. These are all magnetic targets.

So we don't know what's in the ground
yet, and that's what we're going to find

out.

Hold on a second. Is that bone?

Mike, you got bone here.

Pretty sure that's bone.

Yep, it sure is.

Oh, wow. And it looks like it's actually
potentially been cut.

Right there, yeah. Yeah, there's some
marks.

You know where that came out of in the
wall?

On this side here.

I have a hand lens. Can I grab that?

Uh, yeah.

Okay. Yeah, go for it.

All right.

We're only 29 centimeters deep.

So I think we're going in the disturbed
file zone. Well, it definitely has cut

marks on it. I think you're right about
that.

Yeah, I think it's butchered bone.

Yeah. I think it's a rib. This was
somebody's dinner maybe 50 to 100 years

Or maybe longer, possibly.

Or possibly. It could be Native
American. You could probably figure it

looking really carefully at these cut
marks and determining whether it was

by a metal tool or a stone tool.

Sure, sure.

Come over here.

What's up, Roger?

Well, Scott, we got a lot more evidence
up around this area than just here. This

lady gave me pictures that her family
found.

This is a storm.

Exactly. Where did this come from?

12 miles south of here.

It was found up here? Found up here
around 1900, a little later.

1900? Around that area.

You're kidding me. Wow.

I'm going to let Mike keep digging, but
I've got to check this out first thing

in the morning.

Most people would look at claims of
Viking swords and Norse giants in

and laugh.

But to me, there's more than just legend
here.

In 2000, I studied an artifact called
the Kensington Runestone, which details

voyage to Minnesota by a party of Norse
in 1362, more than a century before

Columbus.

And the geology of the stone proves to
me it's genuine.

The runestone is what started me on a
mission to examine sites and artifacts

around the U .S. that have been
dismissed as hoaxes.

It's why I want to help Roger Saker and
why I need to get to the bottom of the

mysterious sword he showed me a picture
of.

I'm in the area here looking into the
possibility of a north presence here

several centuries ago.

And I spent some time out at Roger's
Sacred Farm. Later in the day, he pulled

aside and showed me some very
interesting pictures of an artifact that

understand you know a little something
about.

That's correct.

Can you tell me something about this
story? It was found while they were

plowing. Yes, I have it here. Good.

Wow. Heavy.

Yeah, that's him. Right. Who found it?
It would be Hans Hansen. Okay.

That found it three miles west of Yule
in Minnesota when he was plowing in

He was the first one to plow that land
because he came from Norway.

Okay, so he homesteaded the land. Right.
When he plowed a little deeper and he

heard a noise.

How deep do you think we're talking? Is
this a foot, two feet in the ground?

I would probably say six to eight inches
in the ground. Okay, so relatively

shallow. Relatively shallow.

Okay.

We've got a symbol here. I don't know
what the heck that is, but it does look

very interesting. This is a very unique
sword. The style obviously will tell us

something about its age. Have you heard
anything about that? Anybody's weighed

in on the possible age?

It had a resemblance to swords of the
14th century.

Copies and inscription was found on the
Uppsala Cathedral.

Sweden. The whole sword, very similar to
that.

Style -wise, right? Style -wise, yeah.
Okay.

One of the reasons that I'm very
interested in this sword, I'm curious

association or possible association with
the Kensington Runestone, which is a

14th century artifact. And this could be
related evidence possibly from that

Norse party. I do know some people that
could help us.

And, you know, just doing a general
examination, sometimes you find things

never expected. So I think we can learn
some more about this sword.

Scott, before you go, I know you're
interested in all these artifacts.

We have part of a rock that had been
blasted. The original owner of that land

thought he saw some writing on it.

Writing? Yeah. It wanted to look like a
hooked axe or something.

A hooked axe? Yeah. We have a possible
inscription that has a hooked axe. The

runestone has the hooked axe.

Obviously, you can see why that
intrigues me. One of the reasons that

interested is, obviously, I'm...

I'm curious about the association or
possible association with giants,

Norse or Viking Age Norse, whoever it
might be.

There was an inscription on it and he
blasted the rock? Yeah.

For foundation?

He bought it for foundation stone.

He was not interested in the history or
whatever. I don't see anything here. So

there's either going to be something on
the rock or in the foundation.

This is great. Well, we've got a sword,
now we have a rock with a possible

inscription with a hooked axe.

Is there any chance we could take a look
at this? Sure, I know where the place

is. Well, the sooner the better as far
as I'm concerned.

First,

I want to see the source rock for this
foundation stone.

If this rock you're taking me to has any
characteristic marks, it'll help me

identify the rock we're looking for in
the foundation.

That's a rock down there.

Oh, that must be it.

All right. Well, here's your boulder.

I'm going to walk up to the fence.

There we go.

That is a massive boulder.

Look at this.

It goes all the way over here.

A couple things here. See this flat
surface here?

Yeah.

And if you look.

At a low angle, you can see that there
are scratches on it. Those are glacial

striations. In the distant past, when
this thing was still part of the

but it wasn't here.

It was hundreds of miles up north.

There's definitely evidence that this
rock was blasted.

The other thing is, I know what this
rock is now. And it has a very unique

fracture pattern here.

So if I'm able to go over to the
foundation, I know what rock to look

And if they carved on the glacial
surface, I'll see those striations.

Do you think he'd let me go through his
foundation and take a look?

Oh, I'm sure he would.

And what is his name?

My name is Scott Walter.

Yeah, Ted Hazard. I looked at a stone
out in the field here, and I heard that

was blasted to help make a foundation
for a house nearby.

Do you want to look at it? I would love
to look at it. I take it it's nearby?

Yeah, it's back there. Okay.

How old is this house with the stone
foundation?

Boy, I don't know. I once had the
lightest idea.

So it predates you being here, honestly.
Yeah. Okay.

Long time, I suppose.

Oh, is this it here?

Yeah. Well, that's kind of in tough
shape there, Ted.

Damn right.

I see concrete right here.

I think I see some boulders here.

God, I would love to rummage around down
in there, but I don't think I want to

go in there.

I don't think so. This is too dangerous.

Well, they're going to tear it down.

Is this going to happen in the near
future?

Yeah, next few days.

Is there a chance you can call me on my
cell phone?

Yeah. Well, that would be great.

I would love to get in there and look at
those boulders. I mean, who knows what

else is in here. I say go for it. Let's
tear it down.

Okay.

If I can find a runic carving, like a
hooked axe, on pieces of the stones used

for the abandoned farmhouse foundation
at Ted Hasselworth's, I'd be one step

closer to proving some of the Norse
legends here are true.

Depending on what Mike found at the
sacred farm today, Roger's giant could

be a clue to a larger habitation site of
the Vikings.

Hey, Mike. Hey, Scott. Good to see you.
And I thought I'd put in a full day.

You guys really went after it. We have
been busy indeed.

So, I know you searched in the spot that
Leonard's dowsing said you'd find

something. Well, how'd it go? Did you
find anything good? I see some bags over

here. I got some goodies to show you for
sure.

So, here's the site plan. This is every
single shovel test that we dug.

And we had 54 metallic targets and 49 of
them were positive. So each of the

black dots yielded an artifact.

A tooth.

A tooth. Not a human tooth.

This is some sort of mammalian tooth.

But what it suggests is that there was
probably livestock at one point in time,

more than likely cattle.

We have evidence that there was some
horse here as well. This was an

shovel test.

This produced Native American pottery.

Okay.

There are two areas, Area A right here,
the center of the property on the north

end, overlooking...

The waterway. This is ground zero,
right? If you're a Scandinavian or a

Norseman, that's where you're going to
drop your tools or whatever materials

might be holding at the time.

And then there's Area 2, which is just
over there to the east. Now, Area 2 had

concentration of Native American
pottery.

This entire bag.

That's all pottery. Oh, wow.

Did you find any evidence of a giant?

No giants.

However, there's still plenty of good
places to dig, and there's plenty of

really interesting artifacts to find.
Let's do it. Let's dig. All right.

good.

My search for proof of pre -Columbian
Norse or Viking contact with Minnesota

ongoing.

I've got an active dig looking for
evidence of Norse giants at the Saker

and a sword I need to get in front of a
medieval weapons expert I know.

Now it's time to look for runes carved
on the foundation stones of the old

farmhouse on Ted Hasselrood's property.

A hooked axe on one of those rocks could
mean the Norse were here.

Hey, Chad.

All right.

Hey, good to see you again. Yeah. Hey,
Ted. How's it going?

Got your call? The house is knocked
down? Yeah.

Now a good time to check out the rocks
in the foundation?

Yeah, go ahead.

All right.

Oh, there we go.

Well, you got some rocks here, but let's
look at the foundation.

We know what we're looking for, so a
dark gray or sort of a bluish gray rock.

I'll look for that depth fracturing and
maybe a smooth polished surface.

These are glacial field stone or glacial
boulders. That's not what we're looking

for.

That didn't work out the way I planned.

Here's a broken surface, but that's
really not the right rock type either.

This is all granite.

And I would think the pieces are going
to be pretty big.

Watch out here.

I don't think so.

That's a basalt.

But here's a big flat one there.

Well,

that's not right either.

We got this pile we saw when we came in.
How about if we check those out?

You know what? I see something right
from here, Dave. Oh, really? They're the

step tractors that we saw on the rock.

This is our rock, for sure.

Oh, look. Look over here. Perfect.

Do you see this flat surface? Is that
the glacial striation? Just like in the

world. And there again.

You know what?

I see something.

No way.

Look at that. There's a line there.

And there's a line here.

Now, is that man -made?

I think we have a couple of man -made
characters here. That could be what your

friend was talking about. If he saw
this, I absolutely believe that's

what he saw. That looks man -made, and
this is sort of a U -shape.

It's not as regular and clean and
obvious as the runestone, but that does

like a man -made mark. But they don't
quite join, I don't think. When they

blasting this, I wonder if they had some
tools and they were moving this around.

Maybe they scratched it.

You know what? That sure is interesting.

Wow.

We did the foundation, that pile, this
pile. I think maybe we got it. We found

couple of what looked like characters.
This is probably what your friend was

talking about.

We were able to absolutely identify
this.

The story was right. He saw something,
and we found it. How's it going?

Hey, I don't bug you, but Teddy's my
neighbor and told me you knew a little

about runic writing.

I'm Scott Walter.

Ed Mars.

Ed, nice to meet you.

If you could give me any information on
that.

Those are runes.

That's a hooked axe.

What the heck?

What's this doing here?

Well, I went down to Alexandria and
looked at the rune stone and it's an

inkling. So these are Kensington runes.
Well, let me see if I can figure it out.

Okay. All right, that's an E.

Now that's a backwards L with a slash.
So D, W.

Well, the hooked axe, of course. I
better know that one.

That's an A, R.

That's a D, Edward.

There you go.

Edward. No way.

That's awesome.

You know, Olaf Ullman found the stone.
He found it with his two sons.

The younger son was the first one to
notice that there was something carved

the stone.

Guess what his name was?

I have no clue. I'm not making this up.

Edward. Really?

Yeah.

Well, hey, it was nice to meet you. It
was short but sweet.

Hey, guys, I think I have something
here.

Yeah. What's that look like?

Oh, wow. Okay.

I'm not sure what that was.

It's a cut bone. It didn't work. There's
a groove that would indicate cutting.

It's a worked bone.

Okay. It's a dense bone, too, so what do
you think?

No.

It definitely works on there.

I got another piece there.

Oh, that's nice.

This was some sort of a bifacial tool,
or at least in the process of making a

tool or a projectile point, an
arrowhead. Yeah, so this is evidence of

prehistoric tool manufacture.

Native American, most likely?

Almost certainly.

Starting to look like a minefield here.

At least we gave it a good effort. But,
Roger, I think we're done digging here.

We found a lot of stuff.

Yeah. You've got a great multi
-component site. You've got historic

You've got prehistoric artifacts. But we
didn't find any Norse materials. Let's

go. That's what we're looking for. But
thanks for our day.

You got it. Thank you. All right, Roger.
Appreciate it.

I've seen a lot.

But the question remains.

Was there a giant on Roger Saker's
property?

Mike and I didn't find any Norse
artifacts, but that doesn't mean there

Norse giant.

Before I question the state
archaeologist about the cover -up, Roger

was part of it.

I need to get to the bottom of the sword
that Gildy gave me.

Hey, Craig.

I'm investigating the possibility of
ancient Norse, Vikings, and even giants

being in Minnesota in the distant past.

And Minnesota being my home state, I get
calls all the time from people who

think they've found artifacts or maybe
inscriptions. I have another one here. I

was recently in northern Minnesota, and
you've got the pictures that I sent of

this sword that was found near Yulin,
Minnesota by a farmer.

So I'm anxious to hear your thoughts.

I'm sad to say it's not a Viking sword.

This particular type of sword was
produced by a WK and company in Germany

mid to late 1800s. They would have
produced thousands of these.

They also would have sold them to the
Ames company in the United States.

who was the largest sword company in the
U .S. at that period of time.

Sold to the military, to individuals, to
organizations, and I actually have

pages from the catalogs of both those
companies.

When I look at both of these pictures
that you show, I mean, that's a spot -on

match right there.

That's that sword. Yep.

Can you show me what a medieval or Norse
sword should look like? Certainly.

Okay. Want to hold that for a sec? Sure.

That's what a Viking sword would appear
to be in most cases. Boy, that's light

for how big it is. Viking combat is very
much a combat of agility,

speed. It is not two guys standing there
pounding each other on their shields.

So, Craig, are you surprised that it's
modern and not old?

No, I was not surprised.

In the course of our studies here in
Minnesota, we've seen several instances

where people have brought in artifacts,
fence finials, axes, the Kensington

Rootstone, all convinced that it's proof
of ancient people prior to them being

there. Well, you know, you bring up the
Kensington Runestone. That's something I

know a lot about. You did a really good
job of pointing out factual evidence and

the features of that sword that have
convinced me that it's absolutely

However, that has not happened with the
Kensington Runestone. It's absolutely a

genuine medieval artifact and proves
that there was a party that came to

Minnesota that included Norse back in
the middle of the 14th century.

This artifact is true.

An artifact that would exist from that
period of time being found, documented

a context that is defendable in the kind
of academic world, if it were,

would make a big deal. That would be
something that would really give us a

big conundrum to solve why.

these people would have been out here in
the middle of nowhere.

Craig, I know you're skeptical about the
runestone, but there's still the

unanswered question of the bones found
at Roger Saker's farm.

My next stop is to visit with the state
archaeologist, Scott Anfinson, who did

visit the farm, saw the dig, and should
have the answer to that question.

Thanks again.

Okay, Scott.

I'm going to cut to the chase.

Roger Taker says that he has a North
Giant on his property, and he says

covering it up.

The bone specialist that was out at the
site didn't want to talk to me and

referred me to you.

Roger was very adamant that when they
exposed the lower legs of the big guy,

that she said that these were the bones
of a very large male.

As a state archaeologist, what's your
response to that?

As for the giant, I can't say for sure.
There are some large people in the past,

and we've seen giant claims before, but
because I didn't see the bones, I can't

say if there was a giant there or not.
And there's some large Indian people,

too.

As for the Norse claim, I think I can
answer that better.

There's absolutely no...

uh european artifacts in that mound we
haven't found any on the property we

haven't found any european artifacts in
the red river valley in the vicinity of

his farm so i would say there's a 99 .99
chance that this person is indian and

not norse whether he's extra large i
can't say for sure are you saying roger

saker is lying about his claim

Roger Zaker's just claiming this. I
think he's sincere in this, that this

Norse giant. But I have no lines of
evidence to say that it is either a

certainly Norse. You know, our bones and
our body are articulated into joints,

all the way from your toe, all the way
up to here. Everything is fitting in a

socket. When you find bones and you lay
them out on a table...

You don't fit them back into the socket.
You just sort of lay them in their

anatomical positions.

Well, if you don't fit them back in,
then you measure it. Whoa, this person

seven feet tall.

Very experienced forensic anthropologist
who has looked at the bones has told me

that they're five foot three inches, I
think, is the tallest. So I wouldn't

that a giant.

Roger Saker is adamant that the Norse
came to Minnesota prior to Columbus.

And if this was true, this would be a
huge story. I mean, absolutely huge.

But at this point, I haven't seen
anything convincing to me that there's a

there. But that door is still open a
crack.

Hey, Roger.

Hey, Scott.

Good to see you again. Oh, nice to see
you.

Didn't interrupt your dinner, did I? Oh,
I just had a little snack here. Well, I

thought I'd stop by and tell you I had a
little visit with your friend.

Oh, yeah.

That can be interesting.

Yeah, and talked about the site over
there, and he said that the bones

that he looked at were not a giant. They
were from a five -foot tall.

Native American, typical of what he sees
all the time.

Well, I could imagine.

Because I know what I see.

I'll take a lie detector test, hypnosis,
whatever you want. I know what I see,

and he was huge.

I have to say that I appreciate your
enthusiasm.

I appreciate your passion.

I understand that. I feel the same
thing. When you know you're right about

something, you stand by your
convictions.

And you've done that, and I respect you
for that. Well, I appreciate that.

Thanks for your help and all that.

But this isn't right.

I mean, these people, they're up to
something.

I'm going to keep going, keep doing it.

I can tell you this. I'm not going to
give up on my search to try to get to

truth behind all this stuff.

Unfortunately, we didn't find anything
else here. But I tell you what, we gave

it a hell of a good try, did we not?
Yes, we did.

Promise me one thing.

Yeah. If you do find a giant or if you
do find a runestone, will you call me

right away? I definitely will.

All right.

Roger, I got to go. But thank you again
for everything.

Thanks for all the help.

Go ahead and finish your dinner.

Yeah.

See you later. I kind of lost my
appetite now.

My search for Norse giants in Minnesota
allowed me to dive deep into the myths

and legends that are woven into the
fabric of my home state.

For many people here, the question of
whether the Vikings made it to Minnesota

isn't a question at all.

My own research into the origins of the
Kensington Runestone has proven, beyond

a shadow of a doubt, that a group of
Norse voyagers did make it to Minnesota

1362.

The New World wasn't as new.

as we've been led to believe.

Next time on America on Earth. When you
saw this, did you kind of lose your mind

a bit? I did.

Could this be Egyptian?

Where is that?

Right there.

We have a brand new chapter in American
history right in front of our eyes.

If you have a mysterious artifact or
site I need to see, I want to know about

it. Go to history .com slash on Earth.