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John, this is Scott Walter.
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Hey, Scott, how are you?
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Well, not that great. I just came from
the site, and the government won't let
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in. It's bullshit.
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Interesting. Well, I'd be happy to. I'm
sure you'll be. I've got some direct
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rock that I shot last year.
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Well, I'd love to see it. I mean, that's
the next best thing.
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I'm heading back to Minneapolis right
now. Could you meet me at my lab and
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the footage?
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Absolutely. All right. Let's plan our
meeting tomorrow. I'll see you then.
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The history that we were all taught
growing up is wrong.
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My name is Scott Wolper, and I'm a
forensic geologist.
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There's a hidden history in this country
that nobody knows about.
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There are pyramids here, chambers,
tombs, inscriptions.
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They're all over this country.
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We're going to investigate these
artifacts and sites, and we're going to
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the truth.
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Sometimes history isn't what we've been
told.
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Dying to see this video here. I'm glad
to show it to you. Yeah. Say, you know,
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got to tell you, the government wouldn't
let me in. How the hell did you get in
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and take these videos?
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Well, I had a permit back in 2011 and
spent a day at the site. It's a huge
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Well, I got clips of a number of rock
walls that formed terraces going up this
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mountain slope.
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Maybe over 100 of these. They're just
all over the place.
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Now, you said over 100?
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Yeah. It's amazing.
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You know, you walk along, all of a
sudden there's a rock wall and then a
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relatively flat area. Now, this is a
shot from up at the upper elevation. See
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how nicely constructed that wall is? And
then there were some water features,
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some of these dams.
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Reservoirs or something? Yeah, to
control water.
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And there were some rock cairns up
there, some type of ceremonial
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And I even found a rectangular stone
foundation. For a
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structure of some type, pyramids
perhaps?
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Okay. So we have rock formations,
extensive terraces to control water.
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And stone foundations.
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Is it big? You could get lost up there.
The only direction that you would know
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to get out is to go down.
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I tell you, if you want to know more
about this, and this is how I found out
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about the site, you need to contact
Richard Thornton. He's a Native American
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architect down in Georgia, and he's
spent, I don't know, a decade.
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studying this. Does he think there could
be a Maya -Georgia connection at this
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site? Yeah, and that's what caught my
attention.
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I'll tell you what, John. If the Mayans
came to Georgia, this could rewrite
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history.
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Hey, how you doing?
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I'm doing good.
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Scott Walter.
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Richard Thornton. Glad to meet you. I
was visiting down at Chattahoochee
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National Forest. Yes.
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Tried to look at some mound structures.
I'm investigating a possible connection
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between the Mayans and Georgia.
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And tried to go look at these mounds,
and I was denied.
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You're kidding.
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No, I was denied.
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First of all, I take it you support this
whole Mayan -Georgia connection?
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Well, I mean, it's not even a theory.
It's a fact. The Mayas are one of the
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Mexican Native American ethnic groups
that became the Creek Indians.
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What are some of the things that to you
provide evidence of this assimilation,
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really, or this coming together here in
Georgia from Mexico? We have the
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architecture. We have the cultural
traditions. The art are very similar.
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Approximately...
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Third to a half of the words in the
Itzati Creek language are either Mai or
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Totonac. Okay, linguistics.
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Linguistics. So what about
archaeoastronomy? They're like the
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these amazing structures that align with
the sun, the moon, the planets, for
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practical and religious reasons.
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Is any of that going on around here?
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Yes, very much so. That's where I'm a
city planner, so I'm pretty strong, so I
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can help you there. Do you have any of
this architecture?
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I have drawings and photographs, yes. Is
that what they don't want me to see?
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I don't know why.
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It's a massive site.
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I want to keep in mind, this place is a
half mile square at least. It's a town.
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It has over 300 stone structures.
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It's like nothing else in America,
really. It's been radiocarbon dated to
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least 1000 A .D.
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What do the archaeologists think about
this?
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I thought the archaeological community
would go gaga.
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They'd be fighting over the chance to be
the one to be the great discovery of
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all their lives.
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Would you believe?
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that some professors who had never seen
this track rock site, they formed a
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political action group to oppose
anything, discussion of the track rock
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it being my unit. Now, why? I don't
know, because they're like 600 miles
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So you're asking me if I would believe
that the academic community might try to
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shut down an investigation like this?
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Yes, I would.
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Look, pal, I've lived it, okay? I was
hired to investigate an artifact called
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the Kensington Rooster. Yes, I've heard
of it.
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When I came out with these results, I
was blasted. And it really puzzled me at
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first, and then it pissed me off. Well,
I've spent the last 12 years
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investigating these historical
mysteries, and when you tell me that
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pushback from the professional or the
academic community...
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I'm interested.
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That's a sure sign that there's probably
something going on here.
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These are some of John's videos.
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You can see the rocks.
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That's the run of a building.
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It looks like an offering altar with a
little hole here.
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I was thinking that also this would have
been covered with clay and then
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plastered with lime stucco. You know,
Richard, I have to say, when I look at
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something like this, I'm not impressed.
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You know, I thought I'd be seeing these
cut, beautifully cleaved work stones and
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these big temples that you think of when
you think of people like the Maya. I
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mean, why don't we have that here?
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This is what most Maya sites look like
before the archaeologists go to work.
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the architects like me restore the
ruins.
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That's what they look like, just piles
of rocks. Even great cities that had 100
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,000 people would be piles of stones in
the jungle.
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What does this site look like? Can you
give me a visual?
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This is a computer virtual reality
model.
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Obviously, there's some elevation here.
It'd be nice to see some topographic
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lines, maybe a topo map. Well, now, I
have topo maps on my computer. Okay, I
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going to ask you. This is a 3D model,
but if you'd like to see the actual
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elevation. I would like to see that.
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Do you see the crampus? Yeah.
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Do you see that's terraced just like the
five -sided mountain? And it's facing
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the sunset of the winter solstice.
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These astronomically aligned structures,
the whole village, the way they're
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oriented, is very important.
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There are many monuments, perhaps 50
stone carns, that seem to be markers
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to do with astronomy. So what is this?
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That's one of the things when I knew it
was itsamaya. When I saw that, I said,
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oh my gosh.
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Actually, I said some other things, but
I hate that.
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It is a device that takes the water from
the spring to drop the water to the
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appropriate terrace. It's a control
device for distributing water.
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What I'm trying to experiment with here
is why did they do it? Why did they
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build the terraces?
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I am mimicking the environmental
situation at Track Rock Gap. The Maya
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civilization grew these crops on
terraces.
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So do you think what we have at Track
Rock is connected to the Mayans somehow?
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Yes, it's a direct connection.
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Okay, why would they not let me in to
see this? I mean, it's just terracing.
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leads me to believe that there's more
going on here.
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Do you think there's a conspiracy maybe
going on here? There's something fishy
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going on up there. I'm thinking there's
something fishy, too. But I'll tell you
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what. If they won't let me hike in,
maybe I'll fly in. You ever heard of
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All right, sounds good. Take it south,
though, because I think I'm going to be
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coming up already.
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Do you want to go up and around, then?
Yeah, up and around. All right.
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This is a virtual image of the area that
we're curious about.
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The main thing is if there's something
here, we're hopeful that your equipment
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will pick up these terraces.
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We're investigating the possibility of a
Mayan -Georgia connection.
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Some researchers think that there might
be Mayan ruins on this site.
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And if so, I mean, we're talking about a
huge new chapter of American history
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being opened up.
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That's fine. Well, you're not that much
lower, right? 500 feet? Yeah, 500 feet
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right now.
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Mayans in Mexico disappeared around 900
A .D.
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Many people believe that they came to
Georgia.
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You know, I would love to have it come
true, but you have to have the evidence.
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I tried to get to this site, and the
government would not let me do it.
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That's why this was planned B.
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How does this LiDAR work?
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Well, what you have between these two
pieces of the system is a laser head and
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scanner and a GPS receiver, and they're
using timestamps.
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We're able to create a point cloud,
which is a set of points accurately
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and geo -referenced in a few
centimeters.
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Within a few centimeters?
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Absolutely.
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It looks like you've set up a grid
system, so basically you're just
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that grid?
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Kind of think of it as mowing the lawn
when we're up here. Because it's down
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back and we use some overlap to make
sure that we don't miss any grass.
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So hopefully anything that shows like it
was a shelf or any anomalies in the
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bare earth is supposed to show up there.
That type of scale we should be able to
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get some data. Yeah, some stuff may look
like it blends into the ground.
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Any kind of irregular features will
stand out. If we're able to use your
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technology.
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and find evidence of some of the things
we see here, there could be a Mayan
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presence here.
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That would be amazing.
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It would be.
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Here is the initial look at the actual
LIDAR data itself, so the points
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themselves. So you can see the flight
lines that we flew right here.
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And then down here is a profile of the
ground. You can see the trees.
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Okay, and I see the...
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Change in topography here. This looks
like something interesting. What would
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that be? A bump there.
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Maybe a man -made feature. It looks like
it might be one of the features that
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we're looking for.
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Okay, possibly a terrace maybe?
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Correct. This is preliminary, and so
what we will do is we'll take and have
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process the data, and that will probably
take a couple weeks to get the final
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data set so that we can verify if that
is actually a man -made feature or not.
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3D map, about two weeks, right? Yep.
Great.
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You know, Jamie, when I started this
investigation, I was pretty skeptical.
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I mean, the notion that the Mayans came
to Georgia seemed pretty far -fetched to
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me. But as I've gone along here, things
are starting to look more interesting.
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If you can generate a 3D map that looks
even remotely like this, I tell you
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what, we could potentially have
something that's big. If those features
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there, we're definitely going to see
them in the data.
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It'll take two weeks for Aerometrics to
compile all the LiDAR data, which could
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help prove a Mayan connection to Jordan.
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If the Mayans did come here, I wonder if
it's connected to their prophecy.
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The Mayan civilization began in 2000 BC
and started to collapse around 750 AD
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when they began to abandon their cities
en masse.
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They had to go somewhere, and this stone
nearby could be a clue they came to the
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Are you Scott?
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Yes. Gary Daniels, I presume?
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That's correct. All right. Great
weather. A little wet today, but I got
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you, I think the rock looks better wet
than if it was dry.
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I agree. What makes this rock
specifically tied to the Maya -Georgia
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in your mind?
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Both cultures, the Maya and the Creek
Indians, use the exact same symbols to
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record the exact same event.
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Well, you know, Gary, I clearly see
these spiral symbols here.
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We got an indentation in the middle.
This one has a couple of different rings
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with an indentation.
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And then we have these cupules along the
top.
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I know what I think it is, but what do
you see?
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My first impression was that it's a star
map.
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I believe that this records...
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An event which happened in 536 A .D.,
which was a comet impact event. And that
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would explain why they went through the
effort to carve this into this boulder.
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This was no easy task.
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No, it wasn't. And I have to say, Gary,
that I agree with you. I'm pretty
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convinced this is a star map as well.
It's an interesting connection with the
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impact and the symbols tying the creek
with the Maya. I think that's plausible.
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But this might not be the only geologic
clue that makes a connection.
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Tell me what you know about Maya Blue.
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Now, Maya Blue was a pigment that the
Maya used in their murals, and it lasts
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very long time without fading. And I
think I understand the reason for that.
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Maya Blue is a very interesting
combination of a clay mineral called
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paligorskite that they mix with an
indigo pigment made from an anil plant.
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And there's lots of paligorskite in
Georgia, but relatively little of it in
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Mexico. Gary, I think.
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that the Maya Blue in Mexico could have
been made with the paligorskite clay in
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Georgia. There are still sites in Mexico
where they haven't found the actual
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source for the Maya Blue. So that's
definitely a good thing to look into.
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So we've got the Maya Blue pigment
mystery as well as star maps both there
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and in Georgia. That's interesting.
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And those are not the only connections.
It goes much deeper than that. Now,
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check these out. This copper plate was
unearthed in North Georgia. What's
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interesting about this is that almost an
identical image as this was found at
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Chichen Itza in the Yucatan.
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Wow. This looks like some type of shaman
or somebody in the middle of a ritual.
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Is that a severed head?
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Yep. And you have this in Chichen Itza
as well. Exactly.
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Wow. Are there any other sites that
might tie into what we're looking at
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Absolutely. Just a few hours from here,
there's a site called Okamulgi. They
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found an elite burial that showed
cranial deformation, a known technique
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Maya world that they also use on their
elites.
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Cranial deformation is a procedure they
did at birth where they placed the child
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on a flattened board, placed another
board on his head, which forced... the
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skull to grow in a certain shape, which
gave them sort of a flattened appearance
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to the forehead.
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With everything I've seen so far, how
come nobody knows about this?
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People have been writing in the
literature, the archaeological
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this connection for 150 years, but it
has become a taboo subject.
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I'm continually amazed every time I see
something new that changes history in a
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profound way and it gets ignored, put
under the rug.
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and people that even dare to investigate
it get criticized. I've been through
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that myself.
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You've got to figure out a way to make
it stop. Yeah, they say science changes
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one death at a time, and I think that's
what it's going to take. You know what?
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I'm not going to wait for these people
to die. Sorry.
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I'm going to get answers.
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Let's go to old Holguin.
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How long have you been studying this
Maya -Georgia connection?
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Well, I've been researching the Georgia
-Mexico connection for about 10 years,
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but it's only within the last couple of
years that I really stumbled on the
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Mayan presence in both Florida and
Georgia.
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Okay.
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What do you think of Richard Thornton's
research?
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You know, Mr. Thornton has presented a
hypothesis.
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And that hypothesis needs to be tested.
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Is the track rock site a Mayan site? I
don't know.
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Could it be? Absolutely, it could be.
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But we're never going to know that as
long as the academics are insisting that
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it can't be.
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So instead of sitting in your chair
talking about it, actually getting out
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and doing something.
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Absolutely. Making proclamations about
what it isn't serves no purpose.
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I agree.
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Wow.
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Take a look at this. This is that mound.
It's a spiral mound, isn't it?
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That's without the vegetation.
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Well, now I can kind of see it.
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Can we take a closer look?
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Let's go. All right.
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We've got mounds of Minnesota, but I
haven't seen any this big.
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Wow. One, two, three, four.
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Yeah, I see at least one, two, three.
Four, five levels.
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Even maybe a fifth one up there.
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This is cool as hell.
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And there's a site called Xochitlacatl
in Mexico. And it's the only other place
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in North America or Central America that
has a spiral mound exactly like this,
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where you follow the spiral to the top.
Not only that, it's laid out exactly
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like the mound site here with the spiral
mound on one end and the square mound
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on the other. This mound, the Creek
Indians said this is where they perform
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their snake dance.
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And so they marched in procession around
the mound until they reached the top
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for their ceremony.
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There was also Lake Okeechobee. Now,
when the Spanish came to Lake
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they found three people living around
that lake, the Maya Imi, the Mayaka, and
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the Maya Yuaki. So three people calling
themselves Maya.
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Is there also maybe a connection to
Miami?
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Absolutely. This is really incredible. I
had no idea that there would be a
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spiral mound here. We have spiral mounds
in Mexico. This Maya -Georgia
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connection is really starting to come
together, and I'm feeling it.
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Well, Gary, you promised me some
archaeoastronomy. I see a beautiful
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structure here with a long doorway
that's facing pretty close to due east.
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According to the Creek Migration legend,
the very first structure they built
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when they arrived here was a mound with
a central chamber. The doorway of this
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earth lodge aligned with the sunrise.
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There's no question that the Mayans also
aligned their temples and their
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structures according to
archaeoastronomy. So is this purely a
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Clearly there was something going on.
This is fascinating.
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I mean, we've got two large mounds.
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We've got this one here that has an
obvious alignment both to the sun and to
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stars. We've got that amazing spiral
structure, the cranial deformation.
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I'm dying to go to Mexico. If I can find
some of the things that are here over
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there, we've got something that's huge.
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Pleasure. Welcome to the site of Chichen
Itza.
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Everything you see is archaeological
evidence.
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Everything? Everything. How big is this
site?
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It's really hard to tell.
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We don't have a full map of the site.
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I know it took thousands of people to
build sites like Chichen Itza. The Maya
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Empire was massive, encompassing parts
of southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize,
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and the Yucatan.
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Many people think the Mayans died out
completely, but they didn't. Even so,
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something forced them to abandon their
major cities beginning around 750 A .D.
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and spread throughout the region or
beyond to the United States.
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Oh, wow.
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You know, from this perspective, it's
just like symmetric. It's perfect. The
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lines are perfect.
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That's amazing.
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They were copying the shapes of the
mountains.
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So what we're looking at here is really
a man -made mountain. It was
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intentionally made to mimic the
mountains.
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I've recently been to a site in North
America in the state of Georgia.
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And one of the things that we did that
was amazing, and I haven't seen the
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results yet, but I saw some preliminary
data, was some technology called LiDAR.
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where basically you fly over an area and
it will collect three -dimensional data
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of the topography of the area. And what
we think we see are remnants of man
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-made structures at the site that are
somewhat reminiscent of what we see
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I'm wondering what your thoughts are on
the possibility of contact with the
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Mayans here, possibly with native
culture in what is now the United
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I think it's very possible.
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Oh, you're saying that's flat out. Okay,
well, you agree with the speculation.
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If we really understand what the Maya
did here and if we really think there
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contact, then what we do is take
everything that we learned here and then
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that as a guide to look for evidence
over there. Yes, I would agree.
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You can maybe find a Maya there or you
can find a Georgian down here.
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Well, this building that we have in
front of us is the observatory, and it's
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been proven by astronomers that it's a
structure that aligns to different
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positions of Venus and positions of the
sun.
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So those small little windows up there,
they were used to track these planets,
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track Venus.
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You know that this window aligns to this
part of the year, and this one aligns
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to this time of the year. So there's a
connection between architecture,
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astronomy, and the calendar.
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Well, this is part of the science we
call archaeoastronomy.
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Right. The other thing that we believe
is that creating a building that has
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alignments with the planet and the sun,
you are creating a link between heaven
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and earth.
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So the building is the link between the
two.
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In Georgia, I saw a spiral mound. I also
saw a boulder that had spirals carved
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into it. So the spiral is very
important. It crossed Georgia, and it
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connect over here with the Mayans. So
maybe that's another.
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uh connection or a piece of evidence we
can tie together between the two
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cultures yeah i think it's very strong
element and i think it's very important
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for the maya to listen everything
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this
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is called the nautilus shell it's the
spiral design we have something here
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called the fibonacci sequence and it's
just simply an A mathematical
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where you add numbers sequentially and
it will grow exponentially creating, in
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this case, a spiral. Many ancient
cultures saw this design, figured out
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mathematics of it in nature, and then
incorporated it into the architecture
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into their artwork.
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Oh yes, it's very important to go in the
Maya.
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Buildings are designed in geometric
proportions and they're pleasing to the
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of the human.
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We're getting very close to the end of
the Mayan calendar, which is December
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21st, which ironically happens to be my
birthday.
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And many people think this is going to
be the end of the world because of the
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Mayans. We are ending the 12 Bakhtun.
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That means we're going to start the 13
Bakhtun during your birthday.
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And then we're going to spend 400 years
more counting days until we get to the
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14th Bakhtun. It's a marker for a new
beginning. If the Mayans were here, it
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would be the biggest celebration you can
think about. There would be offerings,
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there would be sacrifices, there would
be ceremonies, because it's not the end,
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it's just the beginning of something
new. But I think it's really important
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the Mayans are getting some attention.
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I couldn't agree more. I'm looking
forward to seeing some of the carvings
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your site here. And there was something
that was found in Georgia.
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I have seen similar carvings on this,
the head of the captive on this side.
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Yes, I think I can show you something
similar at the site.
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You can tell that the person has some
sort of war instrument in his hand, like
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this one right here.
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He has also feathers in the back, like
he has coming this way.
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But the most striking part is that
there's a little head hanging from his
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hand with a spear, sir. You can see that
the head is almost identical to the one
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he has there. Maybe a captain, maybe
somebody who loves the war. Really,
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everything that you talked about, I see
here.
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This is pretty compelling, is it not?
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Yes, I can see a relationship between
the two sides. I see a huge piece to a
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puzzle of many cultures coming to North
America prior to Columbus.
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And I think we can put the Mayans into
that puzzle.
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And it just completely rewrites the
history of North America as we know it.
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Okay, Alfonso, let's talk about what we
have so far.
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We've got the temples here.
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We've got similar stone structures in
Georgia. We've got the linguistic
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connections. We've got the iconography
of the mural that's so fantastic it's
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virtually identical.
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We've got the archaeoastronomy.
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I tell you, we're starting to build a
pretty strong case here. What can you
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me about Maya Blue?
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Let me show you.
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This is the sacred cenote of Chichen
Itza.
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It's huge.
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This is a giant sinkhole. It's just
incredible.
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Well, this is the most special place in
Chichen Itza.
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This is where he gets his name.
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Chichen means the mouth of the sinkhole.
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That means a cenote.
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And not only is it a water place, but
it's also a sacred place to bring
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offerings. What do we know about the
bottom? What's on the bottom? The
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Maya Blue, they found remains of
children between 9 and 10.
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00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:12,289
This is crazy.
428
00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:13,970
Why would they throw children in here?
429
00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:20,150
The belief is that children are the
ideal messenger to the rain god. So when
430
00:33:20,150 --> 00:33:24,290
want to please the rain god, you use
children as offerings. So you sacrifice
431
00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:26,010
them. Okay. Wow.
432
00:33:27,490 --> 00:33:32,190
Geologically, I've read that down at the
bottom of this cenote, there is a 4
433
00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:33,810
meter or about 14...
434
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,340
foot thick layer that is heavily laden
with maya blue clay that represents a
435
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:44,740
of material how would that much maya
blue get get in the uh the bottom one
436
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:48,280
possibility will be that the children
were painted blue before being thrown
437
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,000
cenote the other thing is that we have
other types of sacrifices sacrifices
438
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,060
we know that happen in chechen because
we have
439
00:33:55,810 --> 00:34:02,450
carving and a painting that shows the
person being against a trapezoid stone
440
00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:06,450
they can put pressure in the back and
they can use a knife and slice the chest
441
00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:10,949
open, pull the heart out and then offer
it to the gods. So they place them on a
442
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:15,810
rock to arch their body so when they
made the incision it would naturally
443
00:34:15,810 --> 00:34:17,610
and then they would go in.
444
00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:23,239
You know, I knew that they used the Maya
blue in the murals and in some of the
445
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,060
artifacts, the vessels and various
things, but I had no idea that they were
446
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:29,600
using it to paint the people for
sacrifice.
447
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:35,060
That's what we assume by the amount of
Maya blue in the bottom of the cenote.
448
00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:39,460
there any Maya blue, the original Maya
blue, still on site here anywhere?
449
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:44,580
Oh, yes, there's still some that we can
see, and there's still some inside of
450
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:45,580
the building.
451
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,639
I think the Maya Blue could be the hard
link between the Mayans and Georgia.
452
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,159
As a geologist, it just might be the
scientific proof I've been looking for.
453
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,640
This is a good example of Maya Blue. You
can tell.
454
00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:04,350
That is around the square.
455
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:08,370
Maya blue was used for painting
buildings and painting offerings, and
456
00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:09,370
sacrificial victims.
457
00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:13,650
My understanding is that the longevity
of this material, why it lasts so long,
458
00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:18,450
is because it's made of a very special
clay called paligorskite, combined with
459
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:22,090
blue dye or an indigo dye made from anil
leaves around here.
460
00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:28,470
It resists acids, and it's very durable.
Now, this type of clay we commonly see
461
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:33,470
in cat litter. It causes clumping. We
also see it in anti -diarrhea medicine
462
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:38,970
because it absorbs the toxins. So this
clay material is very unique. It creates
463
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:43,130
a dye that lasts a very long time. How
long has this pigment been sitting on
464
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:43,769
this wall?
465
00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:46,330
Well, the date we have is about 900 A
.D.
466
00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:52,410
That would be about 1 ,100 years ago. 1
,100 years ago. Indeed. So this unique
467
00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:55,310
clay, where would they get this source
material?
468
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:58,110
I don't know. I haven't found a single
source.
469
00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:02,390
Yes, and that's another important piece
to this puzzle that we're trying to
470
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:07,930
figure out is we do have a very good
source of paligorskite in Georgia, and
471
00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:12,590
could be the source for the Mayans. And
I do have a way I think we might be able
472
00:36:12,590 --> 00:36:16,350
to test this so we can compare it to see
if this is the same source material
473
00:36:16,350 --> 00:36:21,480
as... is georgia found here i'm getting
really excited about this case we have
474
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,760
the cranial deformation we have evidence
in georgia of that practice we know we
475
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,440
have it here we have the wonderful mural
that you showed us that the iconography
476
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,460
that was virtually identical to that
copper plate that we talked about we
477
00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:39,160
stone structures in georgia that have a
similar layout at least appears to be a
478
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,410
similar layout to what we have here and
lastly We have archaeoastronomy, which
479
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:48,210
ties all people together, but certainly
the culture in Georgia that we're
480
00:36:48,210 --> 00:36:52,410
looking at and the Maya people here. We
still have the LIDAR data that we need
481
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:55,290
to look at, but I tell you what, this is
looking really good.
482
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:28,650
All right, Jamie, tell me what you got
here.
483
00:37:29,230 --> 00:37:32,490
So this is the LIDAR data of the track
route site.
484
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:36,450
And so what we're looking at here, this
is the side of the mountain that we were
485
00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:40,390
flying around with your plane and
shooting with the LIDAR. We've taken the
486
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:45,370
away. I put markers in here to kind of
indicate in relationship to the picture
487
00:37:45,370 --> 00:37:46,950
that you gave me of the site itself.
488
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:51,110
Are you saying that Richard Thornton's
recreation of what he thinks is there
489
00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:55,680
correlates with what you found on the
LIDAR? In terms of... My LiDAR
490
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,440
yes. I think that there's a very strong
indication that this correlates very
491
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,760
well. You can see it here, here. You can
see something here, and then you can
492
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,160
see all the little parrots down here.
This is amazing.
493
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,330
What about the Okmogi site?
494
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:12,870
Were you able to fly over there?
495
00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:16,510
Yeah, we actually did get down there and
we were able to fly it. Right here,
496
00:38:16,590 --> 00:38:20,410
what we're looking at is the actual
LIDAR data, so how it's represented.
497
00:38:20,650 --> 00:38:24,710
This is the spiral site. I think I can
see what looked to be the terraces that
498
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:26,050
we saw at the site.
499
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:32,450
There's no mistaking when you look at
that image that it's definitely a mound.
500
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:35,550
The spirals appear to be there and it
looks...
501
00:38:36,010 --> 00:38:40,710
virtually identical to spiral mounds
that are down in Mexico.
502
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:44,030
I tell you what, this is really coming
together.
503
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:48,670
I just, I can't believe it. I mean,
we've got spiral mounds that the Mayans
504
00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:50,090
built. We've got them in Georgia.
505
00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:55,950
We've got archaeoastronomy, both the
Mayans and in Georgia. We've got
506
00:38:55,950 --> 00:39:00,030
iconography. We've got cranial
deformation. We've got linguistics.
507
00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:04,920
It's really coming together. All the
pieces are beginning to fit. But there's
508
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:11,240
one more thing that I want to do, a
quick test that I think might be the
509
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:16,400
piece that pulls this all together to
prove that Mayan -Georgia connection.
510
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,140
Hey, Adam, check this out. What do we
have?
511
00:39:28,510 --> 00:39:33,250
We're going to make some Maya blue. It's
a paint that the Mayans made. It was
512
00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:38,290
very sacred to them. They used it in
murals. They also used it in sacrifice,
513
00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:39,730
ritual sacrifices.
514
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:45,190
Paint the victim head to toe in this
Maya blue paint, rip their hearts out,
515
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:49,550
then throw the body in a huge sinkhole
they call the cenote. But I think
516
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:50,970
is going to solve...
517
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:56,220
The question that we're trying to answer
here, which is, did the Mayans view
518
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:59,400
Georgia clay, specifically Paligorskite
clay?
519
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:07,180
Using indigo from anil and Paligorskite
clay from Georgia, I'm going to make
520
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:08,180
Maya blue.
521
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:14,980
If the Georgia clay in my sample matches
X -ray test results of clay used in
522
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:19,840
real Maya blue, then we have a hard
geological link between the Mayans and
523
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Georgia.
524
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:51,200
Well, basically what I'm trying to do is
to figure out if there's a match
525
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:57,220
between Maya Blue in Mexico and a sample
of paligorskite from
526
00:40:57,220 --> 00:41:02,120
Georgia. They did find some sources in
Mexico, but there's just not enough
527
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,420
sources to explain the amount of
paligorskite that they found.
528
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,980
Well, I definitely think we can help you
with this, so let's have a look.
529
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:16,120
If you're able to make a definitive
connection, it will prove to me beyond a
530
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,280
shadow of a doubt that we definitely
have this connection between the Mayans
531
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,820
Mexico and Georgia.
532
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,920
Here we've got the scan that we did. The
ones labeled PA are the peaks.
533
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
We would expect for the palygorskite
clay structure.
534
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,560
And these ones labeled QU, these are one
of the impurities present.
535
00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:47,360
And this is the mineral quartz.
536
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:49,300
So these are your signature elements.
537
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Now the question is, how do they compare
with the actual Maya blue sample?
538
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:56,940
It actually matches almost perfectly.
539
00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:59,220
So we have a match, don't we? Yes, we
do.
540
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,300
You know what?
541
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,260
I'm surprised, but yet I'm not
surprised. Given everything that I've
542
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:08,360
was the final piece to tie this
together.
543
00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:12,240
There's a whole host of academics that
refuse to believe that there were
544
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:16,500
cultures that came to North America
prior to Columbus. And it's bullshit.
545
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,200
is scientific proof of a connection.
546
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,840
It's impossible to deny.
547
00:42:20,060 --> 00:42:22,120
It's going to make a lot of people very
excited.
548
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,780
Richard Thornton, one of them, who's a
researcher that was adamant that there
549
00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:31,280
was absolutely a connection between the
Mayans and the people in Georgia. This
550
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,920
testing here not only forces us to re
-examine this chapter of American
551
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,540
but it demands that we open up the whole
book to get to the truth of what really
552
00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:41,540
happened.
553
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:45,900
Mayan prophecy does declare 2012 as a
turning point.
554
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:50,400
Maybe not the end, but the start of a
new Bakhtin, a new beginning.
555
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,580
A new beginning might have been what the
Mayans were looking for in Georgia.
556
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,780
Whatever it was, it must have involved
archaeological astronomy.
557
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:00,960
Some sort of alignment to the stars.
558
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,260
There are so many unanswered questions
still out there. What I've learned about
559
00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:09,340
where they went and what they believe is
just the beginning.
560
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,140
There's more to America than we realize.
561
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
We have the right to question the
history we've been taught.
562
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:17,840
To examine things with our own eyes.
563
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:24,560
My job is to explain the unexplained, to
find the answers to questions about our
564
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,500
path when no one else will.
565
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,020
If you have a mysterious artifact or
site I need to see, I want to know about
566
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:37,260
it. Go to history .com slash unearthed.
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