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Hollywood Hogan made me act vicious.
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He was arrogant.
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I was the most evil greaseball that ever
showed up in the wrestling business.
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The character Hulk Hogan used to be the
ultimate tan, all -American hero.
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Totally two different animals.
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So it was just that complete 180
transition to being the most evil
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guess you could say. The ultimate bad
guy.
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The dirtiest player in the game,
Hollywood Hulk Hogan, will prove you
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take what you want.
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan was the most
diabolical villain in sports
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history.
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But Hogan's inglorious brand of evil
derived from rather innocent beginnings.
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It's the 80s. Simpler times.
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Hulk Hogan is the larger than life
personification of everything you want
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hero. Be good, say your prayers, eat
your vitamins, and you too could be like
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Hulk Hogan someday.
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Hulk Hogan was larger than life. Big,
300 and some odd pounds, built like a
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brick house, and had an ungodly amount
of charisma.
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The 1980s were a wonderful era for real
-life superheroes.
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Hulk now has the Sheik's robe, and he
clotheslined him with it.
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We were looking for heroes that were
really idealized versions of ourselves,
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Hulk Hogan was one of those. One, two,
he's done it!
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Hulkamania is here!
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In the early 80s, I started Hulkamania,
and I had a lot to do with it, but so
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did the promotion.
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I've been training and saying my prayers
and eating my vitamins. And everywhere
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I go, man, the people are training in
the parking lots, posing in the gyms.
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Hulkamania is running wild all over the
world.
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Hulkamania was a phenomenon that grabbed
hold of not just the wrestling world,
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but the entire world.
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It just blew up huge. I mean, this guy
couldn't go anywhere and not be
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recognized. All of a sudden, you started
seeing Hulk more and more on different
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shows. Johnny Carson.
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Professional wrestling kind of turns me
into a stark raving maniac.
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Jay Leno.
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We came to Saturday Night Live for one
reason, brother.
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Because this is the best darn show in
the whole wide world.
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Hulk. I said, Hulk, you can't go wrong
with the red and yellow. He goes, why?
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McDonald's. McDonald's is red and yellow
and they're all over America.
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They were putting me on the cover of
Sports Illustrated, all the major
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magazines. You know, I was doing
commercials for Right Guard.
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There was this crazy momentum.
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greatest professional athlete in the
world today, Hulk Hogan.
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Hulk Hogan came into my life when I was
very impressionable in my formative
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years. I loved everything about him. He
was big, he was tall, he was tan, he had
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24 -inch python, the way he talked, the
way he ripped his shirt, when he was
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Thunder Lips and Rocky III.
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You got to remember, we were in the
middle of a Cold War. There was a lot of
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propaganda as far as, you know, Russians
or whatever the case may be.
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We got Nikolai Volkov singing the Soviet
national anthem. It was not necessarily
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a time for nuanced storytelling.
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I can't stand to see our enemy's flag in
the ring. Mr.
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All -American versus the rest of the
world. Throw in the American flag, you
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a hero.
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Hulk Hogan with old glory flying high
above.
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Coming out of the 80s, the 90s. is
defined by grunge
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and gangster rap.
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Counterculture was everything in the
90s.
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When the 90s came along, everything
changed, you know? It was about being
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the bad guy, the more in your face, the
more, yeah, who said so?
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Well, try to knock this chip off my
shoulder and I'll show you what's going
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happen, buddy.
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It was the same red and yellow for a
long time.
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Very successful long time, I might add.
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But there was a point where the audience
started looking at Hulk and going,
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okay, what's new?
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All of a sudden, I felt things changing.
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I could feel the momentum. It wasn't as
powerful.
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I'd come out and my music would hit. It
wasn't the same.
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I'd drop the leg, do the pose down. It
wasn't the same.
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We could notice each night we were
getting a few more boos.
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Each night.
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I'd go and check the sales on our
merchandise, you know, and I could see
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it was starting to dip a little bit.
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This Hulk Hogan thing got so big and it
was so powerful, but there were certain
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times where, you know, when I kind of
felt Hulkamania might not be going in
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right direction, I thought there might
be a time for a change.
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Going up?
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For the next few years, Hogan focused on
his Hollywood ambitions.
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So, is he a box office champ?
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Well, not yet.
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I'm getting better.
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Transition is a tough one.
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By 1994, it became clear.
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Hulkamania was not running wild in
Hollywood.
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I kind of like was really on shaky
ground for a while. I wasn't making any
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money. And when I left WWE, I just
thought my run was over.
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You know, so I was just kind of like
stumbling along on a hope and a prayer.
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I was so lucky that WCW had a soundstage
right next to Thunder Paradise.
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And Eric Bischoff approached me with Ric
Flair and said, hey, we'd like you to
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put lightning in a bottle again. I said,
brother, I'm in.
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Eric Bischoff.
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was a chief executive tasked with
leading WCW, a wrestling promotion with
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objective to overtake WWE as the
industry's standard.
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Bischoff's first plan of action was to
entice former WWE superstars into the
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fold to jumpstart the company.
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And there was still no bigger name out
there than Hulk Hogan.
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I never.
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ever in my life thought that I would run
against Vince McMahon.
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But, you know, I talked to Eric
Bischoff, and he said, what's it going
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to light this company up? I said, well,
I need to come back as Hulk Hogan for a
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while and get the feel of things, and
then we can figure it out really quick.
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The initial reaction when Hulk left WWE
and went to WCW was
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going to a smaller organization at the
time.
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Would help that organization,
definitely.
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But wasn't anything that said, oh, well,
this is going to make a difference. Not
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with the same thing that he had been
doing here.
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We're going to find out who the most
powerful man in the WCW is.
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When we first brought Hulk Hogan in, it
was a big damn deal. It made a lot of
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news. It served its purpose.
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But after about a year and a half, the
audience viewed Hulk Hogan differently.
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I knew that going head -to -head with
the WWE,
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We had to be different and had to be a
lot edgier.
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So it was Hulk Hogan joining the dark
side.
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Oh, what is this? Come on!
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So I flew myself down to Clearwater and
had a conversation with Hulk. What do
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you think about turning heel?
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Going from good...
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To the bad guy.
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Eric came up with this idea.
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And, you know, I knew I needed to do
something, but I wasn't sold.
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I think Hulk knew that the red and
yellow Hulk Hogan was still generating a
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of revenue and would be turning his back
on the fans. And I just don't think he
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was interested in taking the risk
associated with turning heel.
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Because Hulk had made it clear to me he
had no interest in turning heel at all.
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So I had to have a plan B.
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WCW president Eric Bischoff hatched a
real -life plot to put WWE out of
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business. Scott and I have taken on the
perception of two of the WWE's top
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guys doing basically a hostile takeover
of another corporation.
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So we were always perceived as the WWE.
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Get security out here!
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And get them out of here. The perception
was implied that they were being sent
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from us at the WWE. And it was an
invasion of WWE talent going to
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WCW. See you, buddy.
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Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, they killed
everyone.
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They...
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They didn't have anything to lose, and
they were willing to take risks.
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Oh, my God. Get him out of here.
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We picked up a lot of momentum right off
the bat.
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Certainly got people's attention, but I
needed to make as big a splash as I
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could. So we built an entire storyline
around a third man.
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What made it tricky for me is I had to
find the third man in that story.
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Bischoff wanted the promise of a
mysterious third man.
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The baddest of the bad guys.
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A true heel of a human being.
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But who could possibly fill those boots?
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Everyone wanted that spot.
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These two guys lit up the world. I'm
talking about number one spot on cable
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television. We want to know who your
three guys are. And then he cut that
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about bring your best three.
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We're bringing our best three.
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The big man.
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And the medium -sized man.
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And our surprise buddy.
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And next week, I'm bringing the big man
in.
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The really crazy part is, no one knew
who the third
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guy was because there wasn't one yet.
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I remember the day that I got a call
from Hulk, and he said, hey, man, I'd
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to talk to you about what's going on.
Can you make it out to L .A.? So I did.
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I think I got to Hulk's trailer around
midnight after we had a beer or two and
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lit up a Cuban cigar. Hulk said to me,
so, who's going to be the third man?
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And I didn't want to tell him.
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I already had Sting lined up.
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I said, you can't ask Sting.
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I needed major, major change really,
really bad.
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I was starting to get to the point where
I was second -guessing everything about
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myself.
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Was the Hulkamania ride a fluke?
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Was the reason Hulkamania got so big,
was it just Vince McMahon's promotion?
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When this whole three guys thing came
along, And I decided to jump on it. I
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needed it more than life itself at that
point.
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I didn't want Sting to get it.
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And I wanted to prove to people that I
knew this business.
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And not only could I be the greatest
good guy ever, I knew this business well
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enough that I could be the greatest bad
guy ever.
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So I said, I'm in.
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I'm in. Let's do it.
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Wow.
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Didn't see that one coming.
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Boy, have I got butterflies.
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Luger's here.
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Sting's here.
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Savage is here. I only see two of them.
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We were told there would be three of
these interlopers.
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And as you can see, there are only two.
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There's just two of them.
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They're fighting three guys.
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Savage and Luger and Sting.
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Where is it? Is your partner telling me
that your third man is in the building?
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Oh, he's here. All right, Gene.
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What made it tricky for me is I wasn't
100 % convinced that Hulk was actually
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going to see it through. Up until 4 o
'clock, Hulk wasn't sure he was going to
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do it. You know, it was not a go.
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And the backup plan was going to be
sting turning.
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I think everybody under the breath said
a little bit of prayer because we knew.
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We're taking the biggest name in the
history of this business and switching
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to a bad guy.
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We couldn't afford any mistakes.
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Keeping it a secret was my top priority.
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I pulled him over into this big
janitorial closet, and we started going
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that promo, just beginning to middle and
end.
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It was the most exciting, most
stressful, probably.
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Two hours of my professional life.
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Once Hulk walked through that curtain,
it was what it was going to be. And
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was nothing I or anybody else could do
about it. All bets were off.
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Hulk Hogan is in the building.
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You're damn right he is. Hulk comes out.
Here he comes.
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America. Red and yellow. Bah, bah, bah.
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People are there. They're there. They're
there.
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Finally, the Hulkster to the rescue.
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And I'm in on it. I know he's going to
turn. And all I'm thinking in my mind
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oh, man, five minutes from now, man, I'm
going to get the photo op of a
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lifetime. Like, I'm in the ring with
Hulk Hogan.
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I go to the ring, and Bobby Heenan goes,
but whose side is he on?
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Yeah, but whose side is he on?
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What are you talking about, Bobby? What
side is he on?
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There's only one side for him to be on.
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Literally, it was hard for me to
breathe.
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I was so excited.
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Kevin and Scott cleared out of the ring
like they were afraid of me first. Get
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him, Hogan!
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Go get him, Hogan!
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Is he the third man?
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I went in and dropped the leg on Mott.
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Hulk Hogan has betrayed WCW!
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They were in shock.
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You just sold yourself to the devil.
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I mean, you could feel the air come out
of the arena.
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No one knew how to react.
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Hogan drops the leg and stands there in
the ring being interviewed by a
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disgusting Mean Gene Oakland.
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Mean Gene, the first thing you need to
do is to tell these people to shut up if
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you want to hear what I got to say.
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I told everybody I was done, and all you
fans out there, you're just like the
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trash in this ring.
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When I said that, man, they were
throwing bottles. They were throwing
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they could get their hands on. Look at
the ring.
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Look at all of this crap in this ring.
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As far as I'm concerned, all of this
crap in the ring represents these
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fans out here.
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You fans can stick it, brother.
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Trash is raining down from the crap. You
knew you were seeing something you
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never thought you would see.
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Hulk Hogan was evil. He had become the
ultimate villain.
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You can call this the New World Order of
Wrestling, brother.
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And he ushers in an entirely new era of
professional wrestling.
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And that was the birth of the NWO.
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Join up with the likes of these two men
absolutely makes me sick to my stomach.
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The way it is now, brother, not only are
we going to take over the whole
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wrestling business with Hulk Hogan and
the new blood, the monsters with me, we
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will destroy everything in our path, me,
Gene.
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It got so much heat.
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Me, Kevin, and Scott got to the back and
went, holy.
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It was the craziest thing I've ever seen
in my life. They had to call extra
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police in from the Daytona Police
Department came out there because there
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riot that took place. I mean, all the
news media is picked up on it
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The next day, Turner Broadcasting was
flooded with emails
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and phone calls of really pissed off
people, mainly because of the kids.
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Because Hulk was, say your prayer, eat
your vitamins, and now you're healed?
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Oh, man.
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People were bleep, bleep, bleep, pissed.
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People lost their minds, dude. I mean,
kids were burning their Hulk
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Hogan wrestling huggers with effigy. I
mean, it was insane.
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That's how beloved that man was.
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That was devastating.
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Little kids were crying.
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Lone men were pissed.
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It was genuine betrayal and the hate
that truly
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follows.
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Hollywood Hogan embraced his dark side
with greater ease than anyone expected.
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It was clear he was in this for the long
haul.
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Wearing black instead of his customary
and traditional yellow print.
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Mr. Hollywood, Hulk Hogan.
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The biggest on -camera change for Hulk
Hogan going from good guy to bad guy was
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wardrobe, the red and yellow. Those were
his colors.
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Then going to the black and the bandana
being black. He turned his back on it
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all. What I liked the most about, as
opposed to just the wardrobe, it was in
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beard. It visually made his heel turn
more dramatic.
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At the time, it wasn't gray.
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It was still kind of blonde. I grew the
beard in, and I got just for men.
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And I dyed it shoe -polished black, as
evil, as snidely whiplash as I could get
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it. That was the look.
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It made people so mad that they knew I
dyed my beard or I put makeup on it or
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whatever they thought.
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It put that extra icing on the top to
make people hate me even more.
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And then nobody airbrushed their boots,
you know. So I was putting Hollywood and
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lightning bolts on the boots.
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So that was like tweaking the character
and getting it right. But it made me act
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a certain way, too.
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There wasn't a bigger boogeyman than
Hollywood Hulk Hogan.
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan. He'd give the
cheap shots behind the referee back.
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You know, scrape the back. He would get
on his hands and knees and beg, and, oh,
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please, don't hit me, please, where the
people wanted to see that happen, you
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know? And so he was just a whole
different persona than he was from Hulk
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Hulk Hogan is the man that you voted for
for the most hated wrestler of the
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year. Hulkster, wait a minute. I've
known you, like, forever.
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I mean, you were the most popular guy in
the world, and now the most hated
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wrestler of the year?
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Well, brother, times change, and so do
people, man.
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The Church of the Wrestling World!
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Not only was the heat so pure, but all
the, I don't want to say purest
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wrestling fans, but the dicks like me.
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We all loved it. We were like, oh, if he
can do that, anything's possible.
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I just wanted to set the tone for what
really would make the NWO take off.
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And man, we rode it hard and we rode it
long.
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Asking Hogan to turn his back on the
ideals that made him the icon of a
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generation.
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was a big ask to say the least.
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There was no turning back.
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The fans
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picked up on the
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NWO and Hulk Hogan. It was something the
wrestling world had never seen before.
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It was even crazy more so than anything.
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They liked it.
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They ate it up.
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I think secretly we all love the bad
guys.
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There's always a cool factor to the bad
dude. I think there's something within
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all of us that kind of wishes we could
do a little bit of that in real life.
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What are your fans going to think?
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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I'm a bad guy.
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I think there's a certain authenticity
that rings with people when they find
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that this pure hero is flawed.
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And then when they see that, they go,
wow, I don't have to be perfect. You can
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identify with that person that has the
flaws.
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They were cool bad guys.
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And I think that's what makes the fans
go, you know, I wish I could dress like
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him. I wish I could go and tell my boss
off like this guy here.
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It's being everything that...
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You wish you could be, but you're not.
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It's the new world order. There's
nothing you can do about it.
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You know, the more we would beat people
up and spray paint Ted Turner's
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equipment outside, the more evil stuff
we did, the more the fans cheered.
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I think the audience's appetite was
changing.
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The audience was beginning to dig the
anti -hero a lot more than the hero.
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The whole idea was to be edgier, more
adult -themed, and to have much
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more of a reality sensibility.
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And it worked.
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It was fascinating because they were
showing us things that we had never seen
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before. They were taking us back behind
the scenes, and they were just
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disrupting. From a fan's point of view,
it was almost like now there was a
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virus. In wrestling, and you were either
cool, like Hogan, or you were, you
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know, company people.
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Didn't the world get behind me and want
to be a part of it? It was genius. It
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really was.
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Everybody in the arena had the shirt.
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Want to make a fashion statement? My
grandmother wouldn't allow me to wear
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NWO shirt.
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in my house she even ripped down my hulk
hogan poster so when hulk hogan was
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transforming and the nwo was forming i
was also turning into a younger adult
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so i was kind of changing the way i was
moving and the things i like so that
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whole transition was perfect from you
know loving this guy in the yellow and
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to grandma i need my nwo shirt where's
my black and white shirt ironically the
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villain at hollywood was now attracting
the sort of celebrity attention that
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hulk hogan could only dream about back
in 94.
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The NWO thing was so cool that there
were really no boundaries.
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I mean, it was insane.
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We had a blast.
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All of a sudden, our ratings went from
like 2 .4s to 6s,
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7s, and 8s.
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I mean, those are NFL numbers.
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We had our own NASCAR NWO car.
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Everybody wanted to be a bad guy.
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You proved you are the icon that
everybody in this building has always
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are. Give it up for the Hawks. Come on,
give it up.
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It totally changed the landscape of the
business. All of a
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sudden.
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Bad guys became everything.
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Hulk Hogan becoming evil and becoming
bad was the game changer that allowed
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WCW to move ahead in the ratings above
us for 83 weeks.
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And that was the catalyst that really
set WCW into motion, becoming a very
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successful promotion.
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Let's destroy the broadcast booth!
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The WCW!
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At that time, the world celebrated power
-hungry villains who might just burn
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the whole world down.
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But, in a bizarre twist of fate, the
very monster WCW created in order to
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destroy WWE turned into an evil they
could not forbear.
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In 1996, thanks to Hollywood Hogan,
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WCW was dominating WWE in the TV
ratings.
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But, as it's often been said, the
devil's in the details, or in this case,
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fine print.
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Going back to some of the first, the
initial meetings I had with Hulk about
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coming to WCW, he looked me right in the
eyes and said, brother, I don't trust
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anybody here. I don't know you, Eric,
and I know everybody that works here in
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this company, and I really don't trust
them.
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So here's how this is going to have to
work.
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Creative control.
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It means a lot to have creative control
because if somebody else comes in and
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says, I think we need to do this or do
that, and you can't perform, it really
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hurts the money you're making. So we
knew if you do have creative control,
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like you can do no wrong.
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When Hulk came over to WCW for Hulk,
creative control meant that you could
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the match that you wanted when you
wanted it.
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It was something that opened a can of
worms.
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I think it rubbed a lot of the guys the
wrong way.
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A lot of the wrestlers were upset.
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Their egos just got out of control. They
were just really upset.
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We were pissed.
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We were all just fighting for your spot.
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The NWO has had some good times.
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Quite frankly, lately, some bad times.
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Scott and I, his creative control was
very hard because the golden one would
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walk in at 5 .15 on an 8 o 'clock start
and go, brother, that doesn't work
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for me.
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You know, like, wow, really, man?
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Okay, what does?
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Do you have an idea?
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You don't even have an idea.
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That just doesn't work for you.
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So we'll work around it.
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It got to a point when the lunatics
started running the asylum and the ship
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started falling apart.
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The numbers started slipping just a
little bit.
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Instead of Eric taking over control, you
had everybody in the Turner offices
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that knew nothing about wrestling trying
to put their two cents worth in. We
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need to talk.
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What do we need to talk?
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Wait a minute. This is the president of
Turner Sports. He's your boss. This is
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Dr. Harvey Schiller.
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This cannot go well for you.
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Turner basically took WCW away from him.
Eric Bischoff lost control.
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So it was like being sabotaged at the
highest level.
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It just fell apart.
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So, yeah, I mean.
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In September of 99, I was relieved of my
duties in WCW.
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In their infinite wisdom, WCW brought in
Vince Russo. Guys, this
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show really sucks. Because Vince Russo
was able to convince certain people in
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WCW and Turner Broadcast that Vince
Russo was actually the architect behind
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Attitude Era and all the success that
WWE had.
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Bro, as sure as I'm sitting here, I
walked into a WCW
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locker room.
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And the minute I walked in, there was a
giant target
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bullseye on my back.
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Vince Russo came in. He said, I'm going
to fire everybody that's one day over
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40.
437
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:20,000
And I went, okay, how's this going to
work?
438
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,180
One of the ways he was able to galvanize
himself with some of this lower -card,
439
00:31:25,420 --> 00:31:30,440
younger talent was to badmouth guys like
Hulk Hogan.
440
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:35,120
Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair can't go on
wrestling forever. You've got to build
441
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,240
undercard. I'm just going, oh, my God.
442
00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:41,420
If you guys buy this, I've got a lot of
swampland here in Florida to sell you.
443
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:43,760
Russo's goal was to get rid of Hulk
Hogan.
444
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,680
That was going to be his claim to fame.
445
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:48,980
He was going to put the nail in Hulk
Hogan's career.
446
00:31:50,420 --> 00:31:55,280
A wrestler's paranoia, you can't change
that.
447
00:31:55,860 --> 00:32:00,980
They're going to believe what they want
to believe, and they believe that I was
448
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:04,520
trying to run them out of Dodge, which
was the last thing I was trying to do.
449
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Vince Russo never butt heads with
anybody to their face. It was always
450
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,520
their back.
451
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,660
Don't edit that out. I dare you.
452
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,240
So when we talk about Bash at the Beach,
I had written the show, and Hulk had to
453
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,240
give the script approval.
454
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:30,020
Okay?
455
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,580
Sent the first one over.
456
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,320
Hulk didn't like it.
457
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,820
Sent the second one over. Hulk didn't
like it.
458
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:40,820
Basically, they want to get the belt off
you and put it on Jarrett. I said,
459
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,480
well, here's the deal, bro. I don't get
along with this Vince Russo guy.
460
00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:47,820
Anyway, he's been trying to sabotage me
since the day he walked in here.
461
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,860
So I write the third script, and
basically I have Hulk killing everyone
462
00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:58,300
building but not walking out with the
title.
463
00:32:58,740 --> 00:32:59,740
He's here! It is!
464
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:03,860
Vince wanted Hulk to drop the belt to
Jeff, and he said, look, let me win the
465
00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:08,500
belt tonight on the pay -per -view,
which is the money, and then Monday
466
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,820
he said, I'll drop it at Nitro. Well, he
didn't want to do that.
467
00:33:13,420 --> 00:33:20,300
I then go to Jeff Jarrett and say to
Jeff, Jeff, F Hogan,
468
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,060
lay down in the middle of the ring, let
him cover you, and let him leave with
469
00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:27,420
his belt. F him.
470
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:34,700
What's Jeff doing?
471
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,240
What's Jeff doing?
472
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:39,320
Russo, I think, told Jarrett to lie
down. What's going on?
473
00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:40,780
Jarrett lays down.
474
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,900
I looked at him and said, brother, don't
do this. I said, don't screw this
475
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:45,900
business up like this.
476
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,140
You know, and he just laid there.
477
00:33:53,060 --> 00:33:57,440
That's why this company's in the damn
shape it's in, because of bulls like
478
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,540
Hulk Hogan is the world's best, and this
sport has never seen anything like
479
00:34:08,540 --> 00:34:09,478
this.
480
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,560
Maybe Russo can explain to the world
what we have seen.
481
00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:18,969
His face. Yeah, we know that face, don't
we?
482
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:26,489
I've done nothing, nothing but deal with
the bull of
483
00:34:26,489 --> 00:34:30,670
the politic behind that curtain.
484
00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:38,590
I came back to the guys behind that
curtain that give a shit about this
485
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:44,510
And let me tell you who doesn't give a
shit about this company.
486
00:34:46,989 --> 00:34:48,250
Politician Hulk Hogan.
487
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:56,610
Because Hulk Hogan tonight wants to play
his creative control card.
488
00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:00,890
You will never see that piece of shit
again.
489
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:12,070
So now you've got to understand with
Hulk's ego, I go back to the office and
490
00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:15,310
I've got to meet with Brad Siegel, who
was the head of TNT.
491
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,940
And Brad says, Vince, what happened?
492
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,980
And I laid out the entire scenario. And
Brad says to me, how did you leave it
493
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:24,980
with hope?
494
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:27,760
That was the Vince Russo show.
495
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,760
The whole thing was just so, just out of
the realm of what this business is
496
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,400
about. And it was just, it was disaster.
497
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:39,180
Where does Hollywood hoping's career go
from here?
498
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,700
Where does WCW go from here?
499
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,180
With the WCW's value at an all -time
low.
500
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,920
The powers cut their losses and sold out
to the man they sought to destroy,
501
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Vince McMahon.
502
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,900
The fate of WCW is in my hands.
503
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:10,060
Will Hollywood Hulk Hogan and his band
of cutthroats destroy you?
504
00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:15,710
The WCW will be on a silver platter,
brother.
505
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:22,690
And just like the big bad wolf said,
better to
506
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:23,710
eat you with.
507
00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:26,170
Wow.
508
00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:29,630
The downfall of WCW.
509
00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:37,770
I didn't feel any, you know, ego boost
of way to go events. You know, you're
510
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:38,770
crushing them.
511
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,540
Now you own them and all that.
512
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,780
I look at it as business as usual.
513
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,640
You have to grab your competition by the
throat, and you've got to squeeze the
514
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,240
life out of your competition, just like
I did to WCW.
515
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,360
On March 26, 2001, WWE officially
purchased WCW.
516
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:04,480
Vince McMahon would dismantle the roster
and yank WCW off the air.
517
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:14,650
A year later, Vince McMahon was looking
to squeeze whatever evil juice was left
518
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:15,650
out of Hogan.
519
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:18,030
While Hollywood star was on the wing,
520
00:37:18,770 --> 00:37:21,650
The Rock was on his way into the
stratosphere.
521
00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:28,590
It was to be a symbolic passing of the
torch from an icon of an era gone by to
522
00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:30,370
the great one of the Attitude Era.
523
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:32,790
Hey, it's The Rock. Come on, guys.
524
00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:34,750
This ain't one of those people's champs.
525
00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:37,630
This is my son's favorite wrestler.
526
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:40,720
Vince wanted me to wrestle The Rock, you
know.
527
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,180
Hogan, you take that camera.
528
00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:44,280
It's already shined up. Turn sideways.
529
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,760
Eat your vitamins. Say your prayers. And
stick it straight up all your candy
530
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,760
asses.
531
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,340
It's kind of funny because, you know, I
remember him saying, well, Terry, you
532
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:56,340
know, things have changed.
533
00:37:56,980 --> 00:38:00,060
You know, if you're going to wrestle The
Rock, you better really bring it.
534
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:03,660
In my mind, I'm thinking, brother, if I
bring it, you're going to be begging me
535
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:04,660
to take it back.
536
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:14,950
The Rock against Hulk Hogan. Here's the
aging Hulk Hogan.
537
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:16,730
Here's the newcomer The Rock.
538
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:18,450
What was going to happen?
539
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:24,250
Man, it took my daughter to hear the
Backstreet Boys and NSYNC, and the girls
540
00:38:24,250 --> 00:38:27,010
screamed so loud it hurt my ears. It was
just that loud.
541
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:49,130
When Hulk came back, they didn't want
the NWO Hulk. They didn't want Hollywood
542
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:50,810
Hulk. They wanted Hulk.
543
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:56,070
I think our audience looked at it as it
had been long enough. He had been black
544
00:38:56,070 --> 00:38:59,830
and white for 10 years or whatever it
was, and people were ready now.
545
00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:01,810
What's old is new again.
546
00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:09,070
I mean, God, how long did the beginning
of that match go on where they were just
547
00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:13,190
listening to the crowd and listening to
the deafening?
548
00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:14,759
Hogan chance.
549
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:21,300
Many in the crowd chanting for Hogan.
Holy cow, man. It was a worldwide
550
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:26,420
telling you that, man, we love him for
everything he was.
551
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,460
We loved him for leaving. We loved him
for coming back.
552
00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:31,160
We love Hogan.
553
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:34,480
And maybe you're shoving rock down our
throat.
554
00:39:39,820 --> 00:39:40,820
Heard him cheering.
555
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,380
I went, oh, crap.
556
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,980
You know, and they were cheering and
cheering and cheering, and then The Rock
557
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:48,860
started taking over. I mean, every time
he'd punch me, they'd boo him.
558
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,240
The Rock was getting booed.
559
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,740
He's had the push of a lifetime, and
here I come back, trying to put the WWE
560
00:39:58,740 --> 00:40:02,900
of business for 10 years, trying to
destroy the company, and I come back,
561
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,740
the people are cheering me and booing
him.
562
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:09,780
The crowd is solidly behind Hulk. I
don't know if The Rock knows what to
563
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,080
People went crazy over the Hulkster.
564
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,260
Oh, my God, it was unbelievable. And
then people loved The Rock, too, but
565
00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:18,320
got the match turned around where people
cheered The Rock, cheered Hulk, you
566
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,360
know. Let's go, Hulkster. Let's go,
Rock. Let's go, Hulkster. Let's go,
567
00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:27,140
Hulk, Rock, two of the greatest of all
time.
568
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:33,560
And they were able to listen, react, and
make it work.
569
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:43,310
People just couldn't take it anymore.
Couldn't wait for Hulk to Hulk up and
570
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:45,310
that big comeback, comeback, comeback.
571
00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:49,070
Oh, my God. What you going to do, Rock?
572
00:40:49,410 --> 00:40:55,970
Hulk heard an audience, a worldwide
audience telling you that, man, we want
573
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:58,850
our traditional Hulk back and we love
him.
574
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:04,990
It was a beautiful moment because that
was an evolution for Hulk.
575
00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:20,840
It was interesting because it was almost
like it was the first time that Hogan
576
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:27,660
realized that there could be some
ambiguity to his character. And I
577
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:32,820
think it wasn't until that night,
because he was so over with the
578
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:38,400
realized he could have elements of
Hollywood and not be completely bad.
579
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:49,740
At the end, the people really got what
they wanted to see, two of the biggest
580
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:50,880
icons in the world.
581
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,980
And so, you know, it was kind of like a
passing of the torch.
582
00:42:01,660 --> 00:42:08,640
It was so intense
583
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,940
that Vince McMahon goes.
584
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:16,060
Where is your red and yellow gear?
585
00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:19,260
Vince goes, you need to go get your red
and yellow stuff.
586
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:30,040
My whole character of Hollywood Hogan
was nothing but fun and being nasty
587
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,160
as I want to be and having a blast doing
it.
588
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,780
The Hulk Hogan character actually.
589
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:45,090
Was up here and it brought me up and
made me a better person all these years.
590
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:48,970
And I finally understand what it meant
to so many people.
591
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:16,170
Psychoanalyst Carl Jung once said that
inside of every person is a shadow self.
592
00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:19,490
It's where we keep the things we don't
like about ourselves.
593
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:23,790
Pride, ruthless ambition, tendency to
violence.
594
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:25,930
That's Hollywood Hogan.
595
00:43:26,530 --> 00:43:31,770
As much as we all want to be the hero
that was Hulk Hogan, we all have a
596
00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,810
bit of Hollywood Hogan inside of us.
597
00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:41,250
I think if one were to go back and try
to...
598
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Do a post -mortem on the evil Hulk
Hogan. At its core was the
599
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:55,900
fact that Hulk turned his back on people
who loved him and supported him as a
600
00:43:55,900 --> 00:44:01,580
character. And creating a mystery,
getting the audience to ask questions,
601
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:08,400
blurring the line, which I will admit
now that the litigation is far behind
602
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:10,440
Creating that...
603
00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:15,530
feeling of not being sure if what we're
seeing is real or make -believe.
604
00:44:15,930 --> 00:44:18,950
For Hollywood, every night's a main
event.
605
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:20,670
Every night's a payoff.
606
00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:23,210
And every night's another trip to the
bank.
607
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:30,370
It was genuine betrayal and the hate
that surely follows.
608
00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:33,270
It was a thing of beauty.
609
00:44:34,030 --> 00:44:35,470
If I do say so myself.
610
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:40,550
It's the most Cunning men will survive!
611
00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:45,570
What are we to think of the duplicitous
Hulk Hogan? Is he the icon who inspired
612
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:48,750
a generation of Hulkamaniacs to say
their prayers and eat their vitamins?
613
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:51,670
A superhero who made it cool to be the
good guy?
614
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:56,850
Or is he the nefarious Hollywood Hogan
who became intoxicated with his own
615
00:44:56,850 --> 00:45:00,170
and fame to the extent he brought down
an entire company?
616
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:05,750
Either way, for the most beloved
superstar of a generation to become the
617
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:07,050
prolific villain of the next.
618
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:08,920
is an amazing feat.
619
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:15,840
If you really want to know what evil
lurks around you, take a closer look
620
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,620
the heart of your heroes.
621
00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:20,700
I am the master of the mental game for
us.
622
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,640
The maneuver people like puppets.
623
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,900
I actually take what I want.
624
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:27,400
There's no being better.
625
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,720
And each and every time I hit an arena,
I made sure I left my mark.
626
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:37,400
Because I gave wrestling something that
nobody else could have given it. I gave
627
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,158
it life.
628
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,380
And wrestling will live forever because
of me.
629
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,220
The preceding announcement has been paid
for by the New World Order.
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