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I'd like to get something straight in my
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mind how long have you known dr. Betty
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little girl have you known him well what
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do you mean well you can know someone
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for years and not really know them at
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all
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that isn't exactly what you were asked
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can you think of any reason why dr.
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Bedford would deny the fact that your
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older brother was an addict can you
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think of any reason why Howard McBride
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would deny the same thing they both knew
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about you is there any reason you might
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lie to me I do not exactly like whatever
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it is that you're implying if you have
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something to say to me please save
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either jr. was using drugs or he wasn't
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and right now the only way to find out
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is to order an explanation it's the only
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way you'd kill my father if you did it
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I mean it would be the final blow he had
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no idea of what was wrong with Tim he's
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strong and he's tough but he just
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couldn't stand it no not after all this
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happened he could
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all right throw it up and put them up
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it's fine
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Barmes are still open I think so get me
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a prescription pad William okay my
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friend I think you live we want to
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redress that tomorrow you understand
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there is no hope of recovery from the
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effects of these injuries I will repeat
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this there is no hope retro extremities
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from your injuries pile into a full
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state nurse blood pressure 90 over 30
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all right now listen this is the doctor
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speaking what is your name okay yeah you
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can keep at him are you willing to make
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a full and true statement about your
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connections with Fred trench and the
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death of a man named Cooper
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extremities becoming cyanotic blood
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pressure 80 over 10 pulsating how do you
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like her
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the gentleman is that it
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well up until a minute ago I thought you
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had a case against Treach we still have
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a case against him
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where how I did feel I feel okay get
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some rest
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respective farms - right down the hall
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thank you I want you to call off that
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exclamation order I'm sorry doctor I
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can't do that you know what it might do
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to mr. Cooper unfortunately there's a
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risk we'll have to take no we don't
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don't you understand I don't want to
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know what you're looking for and why
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you've met the man you know how he is I
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know it has to be done no it doesn't not
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really I'll tell you what you want to
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know I told him he was using heroin he
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had been using it for almost a year
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how'd he get started I don't know did
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you treat it no that's not my field
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did you ever examine him yes of course I
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urged him to go to a hospital but he
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wouldn't do that
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said he could handle it by himself the
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only difference between him and us
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screaming ward of miserable knick knacks
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upstairs is that he could afford his
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habit did you ever help him get drugs
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certainly not do you know where he got
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his supplies I have no idea besides
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that's all after the fact I've told you
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what you want to know it should have
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been brought out at the inquest it was a
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contributing factor you I know but I
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discuss it with Howard look fried and it
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seemed to him and it seemed to me that
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the only reasonable and humane thing to
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do was to let us have it die with him I
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still feel that way what purpose could
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possibly be served by making public that
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sort of heartbreaking information I can
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think of one what it might have saved
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both Cooper's life inspector Van Arsdale
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I have always tried to act ethically and
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practically within the dictates of my
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profession I cannot I will not accept
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that presumption on your part I suppose
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that I am to be arrested that depends on
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what on how much trouble we have or
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don't have getting our hands on your
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medical records and confirming what you
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just told me
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I thought you'd gone home hours ago
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I wanted to see me he's dead isn't he
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was he trying to kill you or me he was
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trying to kill me why he was paid was
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someone paid to kill though it was the
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same man come on he's gonna take you did
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you know that jr. was an expert swimmer
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yes I did do you think he was murdered
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yes hello
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Hey how's the arm it's okay
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have to get however big Brides address
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up on Russian Hill things like this have
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to happen I know I just wasn't ready we
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separate ready for something like that
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look at it this way you took a
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professional killer out of the market
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blazing off the street how many people
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gonna thank you for it but I'm gonna all
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right wife and my three kids and
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everybody else is tell you about juniors
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habit because I felt well I felt that
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mr. Cooper deserved all the help that he
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could get under the circumstances that
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sure wouldn't have helped I was wrong I
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was wrong for what I consider to be the
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right reasons just the same you would
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help al you afford information I'm sorry
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about that how did you find me at this
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out where you went by your house this
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way we know how you feel about mr.
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Cooper we knew you wouldn't mind what
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else can I do for you would you like to
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drink or some coffee coffee fine
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Nancy two espressos please wait special
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all right
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do you ever hear from those two girls
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that jr. invited to board the boat that
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Sunday afternoon they both left town
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right after the inquest both work from
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out of town before the inquest Modesto
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in Los Angeles I think in New York City
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in Mexico City does it make any
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difference if I have heard from have you
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know maybe I'm wrong again I know you
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fellas have to check into everything but
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those two girls were just two girls I
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don't even remember their names
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Arlene towner and Betty Jo matters to me
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fried did you ever meet them before that
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Sunday afternoon Oh
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after no they were at the inquest the
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same day you were I think it says so
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right here
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same date June 24th I can't sure that
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the facts and figures are correct sure I
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saw them that day but that was the last
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time I saw
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last June 20th you withdrew $15,000 out
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of your account at Merchants Bank how
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and where did you get that information
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he were divorced four years ago mr.
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McBride the settlement is a matter of
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public record it named all your home oh
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just a matter I'm just beginning to
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understand why you came here at this
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hour why it's so urgent both of you
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suspected I'm implicated in some way
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is that correct we're trying to clear up
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a few things that are bothering us mr.
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McBride well I'd like to clear up some
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things that are bothering me my personal
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life is not a matter of public record
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now I'll cooperate with you guys but I
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don't like being pried into
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beginning to feel like a sardine there
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are a few areas that do we think you can
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help us out in mr. McBride we'd
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appreciate it what areas
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I like the $15,000 for instance
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a few days after the accident a man came
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down from Las Vegas with $15,000 worth
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of IOU that jr. had signed I made them
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good otherwise he would have given them
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to mr. Cooper his name was burns he
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hasn't bothered your since no he got
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what he came after you withdrew $10,000
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from that same bank account last Friday
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mr. McBride boy my life and my banking
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habits are an open book to you people
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you're on the wrong track we'd like to
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know what happened to that $10,000 mr.
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McBride now you're getting into a
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personal area I made a loan to an old
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friend of mine last week be very
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embarrassing to him if I were to divulge
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his name so I'm not gonna do that
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one more thing the next time you look
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into my bank account you'll find my
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attorney waiting for you the same thing
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is going to happen when you try to talk
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to me again
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my bow is dead his struggle is over the
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struggle for me and and particularly for
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mr. Cooper's to begin to try to forget
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that Bowe ever lived
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a junior ever lived you're not making it
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easier for either one of us thanks for
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the coffee
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lacy stay on it round the clock right
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now
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you're off the case hell of a
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conversation with the chief he had his
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own conversation with the mayor and the
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mayor had a chat with Frederick D Cooper
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shilling will take over get with them
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fill them in well we've got the case
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he's right captain mcBride pulled
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$10,000 out of the bank mass but we
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think that was to pay for the hit trench
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probably arranged it for and what's
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behind it have you convicted trench with
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McBride yet have you got anything on
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paper a canceled check witnesses that
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have seen them together have you got
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anything to take to the district
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attorney no sir not I haven't got a case
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neither one another point captain he
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withdrew $15,000 just a couple of days
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before the inquest we think he spent
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that money for two reliable with you why
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these two the two girls plus five to
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trench for producing me I can't let you
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tie up any more man do it alone okay
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give that 24 hours to make your case
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Thanks
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Cass I'm glad you can meet me I got
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something important to talk to you about
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you make of that I was hoping he'd meet
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somebody else
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afternoon mr. McBride a glass of Chablis
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and a dry martini yes sir it's good to
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see you again are you all right you look
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swell you always do
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I'm fine Howard I've been talking to the
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police
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Catherine I've been talking to the
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police too I spent all last night
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thinking about what they had to say they
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know about juniors haven't I could punch
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you in the nose for telling them but
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that's not important what is important
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is that that information doesn't reach
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your father it would break his heart the
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police think that junior was murdered I
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do you were with him on that day I want
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you to tell him come on now don't you
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start intimidating me there were other
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people on the boat I don't know that I
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know you and I'm counting on that
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I have to count on that the way it
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stands now there's every chance that
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whatever mistake jr. has made in his
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life will be brought to the surface
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exposed and publicized that will reflect
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directly on your father you want that to
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happen
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no I don't okay then I don't want it to
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happen
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thank you you're welcome sir
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that's why it's up to you and me to do
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what to put our heads together about all
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those other matters what other matters
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his gambling his women
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I've already had repercussions there's
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bound to be more oh come on
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Kath we both know that Junior lived his
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life the way he wanted to live it here's
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to him we both loved him Howard I have
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to say something
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a week before junior died he came to see
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me he was exhausted and bleary-eyed well
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you know how he was when he tried to
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drink away his habit all I could do was
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put him on the couch and throw a blanket
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over him he never slept very much when
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he was like that he kept talking about
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money money that was missing from the
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company at the time I I didn't pay any
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attention I I thought he was just
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tripping out he told me about that money
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he did one hundred and thirty five
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thousand four hundred eighty dollars
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quite an amount isn't it you could have
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stolen that money and jr. could have
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found out about it come on Kath it's me
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how could you possibly think that it's a
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matter with you you could have had a
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better reason than anyone else to kill
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him to have beau killed now you listen
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to me
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I've been half out of my mind trying to
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cover that loss
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waiter yes sir they're the telephone
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please
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right away sir we've been too much to
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each other we've known each other too
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long Kathy don't let this go on any
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longer who do you think stole that money
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who do you think needed the cash to pay
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for his habit his gambling his women
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yeah I don't believe you I don't believe
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what you're saying I haven't said
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anything yet I'm not going to say
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anything but I know somebody who will
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and can say something well we can sit
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down and have an intelligent
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conversation and get done what has to be
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done I'll clear this thing up once and
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for all today hello this is Howard I
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need your help I'm sitting here with
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Cathy we've had a long conversation oh
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well I know I've said all that can be
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said there's nothing more that can be
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done what I want you to do is you come
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up here and talk to it well it would
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only take five minutes i'lli'll ask I
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just don't know can you come with me
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it's so important
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yeah yes we'll be there in 10 minutes
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waiter
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we come way out here see just be patient
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what do you think that I don't like it
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neither do I
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it'll be all right Kathy this is mr.
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trench Trish I've heard that name before
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of course you've had the police probably
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asked you about it yes
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yes they did mr. trench is a good friend
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of mine from that's right tell me what
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did the police want to know they wanted
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to know tell him guys all right they
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asked if I had ever heard your name
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before well I said no anything else
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take me wait Cathy we haven't settled
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anything yet do you remember the matter
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of the 135 thousand four hundred and
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eighty dollars we discussed yes Cathy
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brought that up in our conversation
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today so that's why this is so serious
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that's why I called you Howard let's go
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I've worked too long and too hard it's
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simply the fact that you know too much
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kill it
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serious cast
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I've worked too long and too hard none
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of us want to go to jail
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they bribed but I don't know you hurt
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her you hurt yourself I can't believe
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you do a thing like that
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she means something to you you're gonna
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marry her once think about that
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McBride you don't want any more killings
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you know how hopeless it is let her go
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let her walk out now otherwise you won't
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have a chance to tell your story
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you're an intelligent man McBride I know
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there's a logical explanation for its
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logical McBride logical of course it's
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logical I could have taken a half a
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million even a million
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I took exactly what they owe exactly how
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much was that one hundred and thirty
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five thousand four hundred and eighty
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dollars you compute that over a ten-year
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period you'll find that if they had
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started me at the fair salary ten years
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ago the same salary that they started
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junior at you'll find the difference is
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right to the penny I contributed a great
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deal to that company I was part of it
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it's logical logical when the old man
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dies that I'll take over the company
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good job
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Jemmy
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are you alright what do anything for you
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right now I think I'd like to see my
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father
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I'm sure you'd like to see you too come
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on
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and the Tuesday's weather next week
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there's enough
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