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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:06,500 I'm James Holland, and one of the things that's always really fascinated me 2 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:09,940 about the Second World War is the interplay between man and machine. 3 00:00:11,180 --> 00:00:15,180 In this series, I'm going to go inside the Nazi war machine. 4 00:00:16,540 --> 00:00:20,740 Travelling across Europe, I'll explore the extraordinary machines they produced 5 00:00:20,740 --> 00:00:25,980 and uncover rare archives to understand who built them, how they evolved, and 6 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:28,140 why they're technically brilliant designs. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,040 were militarily flawed. 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,040 The magnificent fighter planes no rookie could fly. 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,140 The first time you fly a Messerschmitt 109, you just have to take that leap of 10 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:45,360 faith. The power of the panzers. If I had come up against this, I would have 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,660 been terrified. But I'm about to learn one of the biggest cons of them all. 12 00:00:48,970 --> 00:00:51,650 The weapons that couldn't cope with mud or sand. 13 00:00:51,970 --> 00:00:56,910 80 years ago, we did equality, which you can't beat today. We probably lost the 14 00:00:56,910 --> 00:00:59,250 war. We used so much good stuff. 15 00:00:59,550 --> 00:01:01,450 The U -boats that were floating bombs. 16 00:01:01,930 --> 00:01:03,450 That was a suicide command. 17 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:05,410 Absolute horror. 18 00:01:05,650 --> 00:01:08,730 A journey through the heart of the Nazi war machine. 19 00:01:19,020 --> 00:01:23,800 I've long been fascinated by the Second World War, but I have to admit, as a 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,080 boy, it was the weaponry that really caught my imagination. 21 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:33,020 The myth I grew up with was that German kit was best, whether it be a tank, 22 00:01:33,220 --> 00:01:38,220 whether it be a fighter plane, or even a humble rifle like this, the K98 Mauser. 23 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:43,080 I'm going on a journey to discover what was myth and what was reality, and 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,560 whether weapons like these really could have won Germany the war. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,380 That is an amazing bit of metal, isn't it? 26 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,340 I'll find out why Nazi quality control delayed vital weapons production. 27 00:01:58,020 --> 00:02:03,840 I mean, it is just an astonishing waste of time, money and effort. 28 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Reveal the secret flaws they tried to cover up. 29 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:12,940 After more than two years of fighting the war, this is an absolutely 30 00:02:12,940 --> 00:02:13,940 admission. 31 00:02:14,650 --> 00:02:19,710 How interference from the very top meant a game -changing weapon failed to reach 32 00:02:19,710 --> 00:02:20,709 the front line. 33 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:23,610 And what they needed was just a little bit of extra firepower. 34 00:02:23,950 --> 00:02:26,550 And why Hitler was dead against it. 35 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:38,350 The bedrock of any fighting force is its infantry. 36 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:46,070 When Hitler invaded Poland and France, The shock and awe of the Blitzkrieg was 37 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:50,430 provided by the tanks of the Panzer Division and the dive bombers of the 38 00:02:50,430 --> 00:02:51,430 Luftwaffe. 39 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:58,410 But it was the infantry unit, 80 % of the Nazis' fighting force, who provided 40 00:02:58,410 --> 00:02:59,590 the boots on the ground. 41 00:03:00,590 --> 00:03:05,310 So the range and quality of weapons issued to these soldiers was key to 42 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:09,410 the success or the failure of Germany's push for world conquest. 43 00:03:17,260 --> 00:03:24,180 But this is my store. This is where I keep overflow books, uniforms, bits and 44 00:03:24,180 --> 00:03:28,480 pieces, maps, a whole host of things. But perhaps my most prized possession is 45 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,040 this. This is a German MG34. 46 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:40,080 It's probably one of the finest weapons ever built, and perhaps the apogee of 47 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,720 German engineering on small arms from the Second World War. 48 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,120 The thing about it, though, is obviously over here in the UK, you can't actually 49 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,880 fire this. This is deactivated. But you can still fire small arms in Germany. 50 00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:55,420 And that's where I'm headed. I'm going to be testing pistols. 51 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,200 In the target. 52 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:01,340 Submachine guns. 53 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,040 An assault rifle. 54 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:09,740 Whoa! And, of course, yes, machine guns as well. 55 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Because only by firing them can I uncover both the strengths and the 56 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,000 of the engineering design of these deadly weapons. 57 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,600 It's just so beautifully made. 58 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,440 I'm going to begin in Aachen, the westernmost city in Germany. 59 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,020 It's a rather pretty spa town, but bordered as it is by both Belgium and 60 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:40,720 Netherlands, It was of the utmost strategic importance during the war. 61 00:04:42,180 --> 00:04:46,660 This is the frontier town of Aachen, the first to fall under the full weight of 62 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:47,840 Allied military might. 63 00:04:48,260 --> 00:04:54,000 It was the first German city to be liberated by the Allies in October 1944, 64 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,640 only after massive casualties on both sides. 65 00:04:57,340 --> 00:05:01,540 Infantry troops fight in the streets for a week in a grim house -to -house 66 00:05:01,540 --> 00:05:02,540 battle. 67 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:06,100 Today it's home to an old friend of mine. 68 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,700 Stefan Kurlin, who's going to join me for much of my journey through the world 69 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:11,780 of Nazi weaponry. 70 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,580 For a start, he owns an astonishing personal collection of small arms. 71 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,360 Goodness me, Stefan, look at this. I've never seen so many Lugers. 72 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,380 That's the reason why you're here today. 73 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:27,940 That's absolutely extraordinary. 74 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:34,420 This is pistol wallpaper over here. Yeah, I decided instead of wallpaper, I 75 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:35,940 some pocket pistols. 76 00:05:37,229 --> 00:05:40,290 Stefan's been collecting and trading guns for over 30 years. 77 00:05:40,610 --> 00:05:44,870 He's very particular about what he collects. They have to be fully 78 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:46,950 and in original condition. 79 00:05:47,330 --> 00:05:52,710 The water PPK. The PPKs or, you know... Look at that, these are the original 80 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:57,310 boxes. Yes, that's hard to find, the original matching number boxes. 81 00:06:00,270 --> 00:06:04,090 He's got around 1 ,700 weapons in his personal collection. 82 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:06,900 many of them predating the Second World War. 83 00:06:08,420 --> 00:06:09,940 I have Lugers here. 84 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,140 Oh, my goodness me. 85 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:14,980 Am I allowed to pick one of these up? 86 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:16,220 Yes, yes. 87 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:18,420 That's an Imperial war Luger. 88 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:21,800 So what age is it? Let's have a look, see what it's got the date on it. 89 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,760 1913. 90 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Parabellum P08, Luger. 91 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,940 was first manufactured in 1908, and yet was still in use by the German army well 92 00:06:33,940 --> 00:06:35,300 into the 1940s. 93 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,480 It's one of the most iconic handguns ever built, and very precisely 94 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:45,340 But by the start of the war, it was largely superseded by the Walther P38. 95 00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:51,060 Yeah, so we have here, for instance, like P38. 96 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,360 Yeah. So this replaces the P08, which is the Luger. 97 00:06:55,900 --> 00:07:00,960 Yeah, that Luger was too expensive, and we chose more for the P -38. It's much 98 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,980 cheaper to produce, yeah. Right. 99 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:07,260 The P -38 had several advantages over the Luger. 100 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,800 It was smaller for a start, and cheaper to produce in the numbers needed at the 101 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:13,800 beginning of the war. 102 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,540 With a range of 30 meters, it proved so reliable that it remained in service 103 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:21,220 with the German military and police until 2004. 104 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Stefan and I have moved to his local firing range. 105 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:28,130 where I'm going to get my first chance to assess its capabilities. 106 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:30,050 So 1943. 107 00:07:30,530 --> 00:07:31,530 Yes, it's a fighter. 108 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:37,650 And this is Bakelite on the outside? Yes, Bakelite. I mean, it's really well 109 00:07:37,650 --> 00:07:38,650 designed, isn't it? 110 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:43,890 Right, and this fires a 9mm? It's a 9mm Luger, yes. OK, so these are pistols and 111 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:46,150 these are well made, well manufactured. 112 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:48,770 So we're allowed to have a fire of some of these? Yeah. 113 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:52,910 In Germany, I'm able to fire a range of Nazi small arms. 114 00:07:53,210 --> 00:07:54,530 Put the magazine in. 115 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,520 As a historian, I strongly believe it's important to get a feel for original 116 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,540 material firsthand. 117 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:02,560 Pull it back? Yes. We're going to start with the P -38. 118 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Okay, go. Aim, aim, aim the target. 119 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,840 The P -38 feels comfortable to handle, and even though it was cheaper to 120 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,300 manufacture than the Luger, it's clearly still well -engineered. 121 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,740 Well, yeah, I mean, I'd be amazed if I hit the target once on that. And you 122 00:08:20,740 --> 00:08:23,500 could feel every time you shot that it was sort of snapping upwards. 123 00:08:24,090 --> 00:08:26,970 You didn't hit the target. I have to tell you the truth, yes? 124 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:31,790 No! You can't win the war. I tell you what, from the same round you got, you 125 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:32,789 one. 126 00:08:32,789 --> 00:08:36,710 And what I'm beginning to discover on this journey is that for the Nazis 127 00:08:36,710 --> 00:08:40,970 throughout the war, it appears that producing high -quality pistols was more 128 00:08:40,970 --> 00:08:43,470 important than getting the numbers out to the front line. 129 00:08:43,929 --> 00:08:45,290 And one of the things that... 130 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,040 I found is a document from the German archives, which is incredibly revealing, 131 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:55,820 because this charts the number of pistols manufactured in Germany in 1943 132 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:59,200 1944. And what it shows is two lines on this graph. 133 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:01,380 So the top line is how many are produced. 134 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:06,680 The bottom line is how many are then sent to the front or sold on. And the 135 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,280 discrepancy is really quite astonishing. 136 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:14,380 For example, if you look at November 1944, 89 ,000 pistols produced, just a 137 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:15,380 little bit more than that. 138 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,760 but just 30 ,600 being sent on. 139 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:25,000 In December, the discrepancy is even greater. 90 ,000 produced, just 25 ,500 140 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,920 sent on. So what is going on here? 141 00:09:28,510 --> 00:09:32,130 Well, what's happening is that the pistols are being produced, then they'd 142 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:36,050 tested, and then they'd be sent back, and the whole thing would be completely 143 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:38,530 disassembled and inspected again. 144 00:09:38,850 --> 00:09:43,970 And even if there was the tiniest flaw, either that part would be removed or the 145 00:09:43,970 --> 00:09:47,050 whole thing would be melted down and they'd start again. 146 00:09:47,290 --> 00:09:52,910 It is ridiculous, over -engineering and over -attention to detail, and 147 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:56,130 particularly at this late stage of the war. It's just astonishing. 148 00:09:56,790 --> 00:10:02,750 And I'm afraid to say, it's not just related to pistols, it's a whole host of 149 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:03,890 other small arms too. 150 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:10,350 It even applied to one of the defining weapons of the German army in World War 151 00:10:10,350 --> 00:10:14,270 II, the devastating submachine gun. 152 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:23,290 This is the Maschinenpistola, the submachine gun known to the Allies as 153 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:27,400 Schmeisser. In its various models, it was to prove one of the most effective 154 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,740 small arms of the entire Second World War. 155 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:36,460 So this is MP -14. You can kind of either aim it, it's very balanced, or 156 00:10:36,460 --> 00:10:40,720 shoot it from the hip, sort of spray and pray, as it was known. But this is 157 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,340 close quarter stuff. It's like a pistol. I mean, the ranges are, you know, very, 158 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,420 very small. This is house clearing, that kind of thing. That is when you're 159 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:50,420 using this weapon. 160 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:56,430 The model number of all German weaponry indicates the year it was first 161 00:10:56,430 --> 00:11:02,530 manufactured. So as the war progressed, the machine pistol MP28 became the MP38 162 00:11:02,530 --> 00:11:04,370 and then the MP40. 163 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:10,390 That evolution and the thinking behind it is a fascinating demonstration of 164 00:11:10,390 --> 00:11:14,850 the strengths and the weaknesses of German weapons design and Nazi 165 00:11:14,850 --> 00:11:15,850 priorities. 166 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:18,310 And here, look at that. 167 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:19,910 Schmeisser. Ja. 168 00:11:22,139 --> 00:11:25,960 Unsurprisingly, Stefan has examples of all these weapons and has given me a 169 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,360 crash course in their differences. 170 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,580 So, Stefan, why is this one so much more expensive than that one? 171 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,580 That's the pre -war, it's carved, and we did this from one piece of metal and 172 00:11:36,580 --> 00:11:42,500 cost five or ten times more time and three times more money to produce it. So 173 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:46,860 this is a solid bit of metal which has then been tooled out, hollowed out, and 174 00:11:46,860 --> 00:11:49,740 the grooves put on. I mean, you know, that is just... 175 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:56,700 purely for aesthetic reasons, taking out a bit of weight and, you know, just to 176 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:57,700 make it look good. 177 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,520 Whereas this is stamped metal. 178 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Yeah, mass production. Mass production, and it's much cheaper to make. 179 00:12:05,180 --> 00:12:06,640 I can completely see that. 180 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,040 But, you know, it underlines that, you know, this is just completely pointless, 181 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:14,080 isn't it? I mean, you're not going to mass produce weapons like that. No, no. 182 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,580 It's hard to expensive, and the problem is... 183 00:12:17,420 --> 00:12:22,920 you don't have the time. If this takes three, four times the time, how can you 184 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,380 start a war with... You need mass production stuff. Yeah, you do. 185 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:36,000 Seeing the quality of the handcrafted detail on the MP38 in particular makes 186 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,740 wonder why it took so long for the Germans to realise that they couldn't 187 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:41,900 war with such incredibly refined weapons. 188 00:12:44,260 --> 00:12:45,820 So I've come to Hamburg. 189 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:50,950 The city was one of the centres of German weapons production throughout the 190 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:56,330 and at the end of July 1943, it was on the receiving end of Operation Gomorrah, 191 00:12:56,450 --> 00:12:59,650 one of the Allies' most devastating bombing operations. 192 00:13:01,150 --> 00:13:05,250 For more than five relentless years, these Allied bombers have been pouring 193 00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:08,330 destruction upon the vital centres of the Nazi war machine. 194 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:16,010 On four missions over eight nights... The RAF sent over 3 ,000 heavy bombers 195 00:13:16,010 --> 00:13:17,010 hammer the city. 196 00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:25,710 These first pictures of Hamburg reveal the indescribable destruction wrought by 197 00:13:25,710 --> 00:13:26,710 repeated air attacks. 198 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:32,910 80 % of Germany's second city was destroyed. 199 00:13:33,330 --> 00:13:38,590 Nearly 43 ,000 people were killed and over a million left homeless. 200 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,500 Today, the city is the home of Hartmann & Weiss, a company producing handmade 201 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:57,500 sporting guns. 202 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:01,880 To take me back to the origins of their craft, I'm meeting up with one of its 203 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,420 founders, Otto Weiss. 204 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:09,760 This is probably one of the finest military rifles ever been made, and this 205 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,040 over 100 years ago. 206 00:14:11,260 --> 00:14:15,360 You can see how smooth this operates. 207 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Oh, yeah, that's really smooth, isn't it? But is it possible to fire this and 208 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,460 see what it's like to fire? 209 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:32,020 I'll have a look if I can find some ammunition for this. 210 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:41,220 The K98 Mauser, of which this is the predecessor, was 211 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:44,900 adopted as the standard infantry rifle of the German army in 1935. 212 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,910 And although other small arms were introduced during the war, It remained 213 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:51,270 active service throughout. 214 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:57,590 Wow. 215 00:15:01,370 --> 00:15:04,190 What I've got to say, it's incredibly smooth. 216 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:09,190 This 100 -year -old rifle set the gold standard for the production quality of 217 00:15:09,190 --> 00:15:10,190 the K98. 218 00:15:11,150 --> 00:15:13,770 Oh, it just clicks in beautifully, doesn't it? 219 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:15,630 Right, see if I can improve things. 220 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:38,200 OK, let's see just how badly I've done. 221 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:42,980 The K98 was a single -shot bolt -action rifle like this, simple but effective. 222 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,640 So what have I got, five shots? 223 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:51,520 It had a range of 500 metres, more with sniper scopes, and some 14 million were 224 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,100 produced between 1935 and the war's end. 225 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:59,440 Well, could have been worse. You don't need to take a shot of that target. 226 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,160 No. 227 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:10,200 So Otto, during the war, how good was the quality of German engineering 228 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,199 of weapons? 229 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:17,800 All the designs, I think, were pre -First World War. As the war went on, 230 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:24,380 had to hire people who were not so skilled anymore and so the quality, of 231 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:25,660 course, went down. 232 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,880 But as the quality went down, a surprising thing happened. 233 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:38,110 Because the really good quality was actually for some seasons too 234 00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:43,350 good. What, because they were so finely produced? The fittings were so good. 235 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:50,010 During the wintertime, when the Russians were fighting there, the soldiers 236 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,270 sometimes couldn't move their rifles anymore. 237 00:16:53,150 --> 00:16:59,510 Why? Because it got ice and snow in it. And even in Africa, they had a little 238 00:16:59,510 --> 00:17:00,510 bit of sand in there. 239 00:17:00,910 --> 00:17:02,270 It didn't work anymore, yeah. 240 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:08,630 What Otto is telling me is totally counterintuitive but utterly 241 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:14,250 that even the humble rifle was so finely crafted it couldn't cope with ice, mud 242 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:15,790 or sand in battle conditions. 243 00:17:17,710 --> 00:17:23,410 Germany had developed blitz warfare, mechanized warfare, armies on wheels. 244 00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:29,150 The German tradition of war was to fight its battles fast, strike hard with 245 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:31,970 overwhelming firepower, and win the war rapidly. 246 00:17:33,730 --> 00:17:40,590 So you can afford your hand -tooled, exquisitely 247 00:17:40,590 --> 00:17:41,590 designed weapons. 248 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:47,850 But if 249 00:17:47,850 --> 00:17:54,810 you're drawn 250 00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:58,810 into a long, attritional war with extended supply lines, it's a different 251 00:17:58,810 --> 00:17:59,810 matter. 252 00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:08,230 Odessa, fiend of an heroic siege of more than two months, held up the whole Nazi 253 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:09,450 trust into the Crimea. 254 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:21,590 I've headed back to Aachen and Stefan's shooting range. 255 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:25,810 I want to see if I can spot any differences in quality between the pre 256 00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:28,630 models of machine guns and the ones made during the war. 257 00:18:29,420 --> 00:18:32,880 You feed it in like this? First up, the MP28. 258 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Aim the target. 259 00:18:35,580 --> 00:18:36,580 Yep. 260 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:40,340 Oh, this is really nice. 261 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,420 The MP38. 262 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,860 That is very impressive. 263 00:18:48,580 --> 00:18:51,740 It's just so beautifully made. 264 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:56,180 If you're only fighting wars that last a few weeks, you can afford to make 265 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:57,180 weapons like this. 266 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,380 Click 10. And two years later, the MP40. 267 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:02,599 Aim the target. 268 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Yep. 269 00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:06,440 Oh, my goodness. That is super smooth. 270 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,620 James, the target. 271 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,100 Please, the target. 272 00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:18,780 You're getting better. 273 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,500 Wow. It just feels very smooth. 274 00:19:24,179 --> 00:19:27,400 very solid, and it just feels like it's not going to let you down. And you hit 275 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,660 the target, I'm proud about you. 276 00:19:31,540 --> 00:19:35,920 Well, I have to say, in my untrained hands, I thought all three of these 277 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,740 submachine guns were pretty impressive. 278 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:43,820 I suppose, if there was any, the MP40 clinches it for me, but, to be honest, I 279 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:45,700 wouldn't want to face any one of them in battle. 280 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:50,920 Those submachine guns were, however, designed to operate at short range. 281 00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:55,050 And the German military needed a weapon that would have an impact over a much 282 00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:56,050 greater distance. 283 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:57,630 They came up with this. 284 00:20:00,910 --> 00:20:02,310 The Sturmgewehr. 285 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:08,110 The kind of first proper assault rifle that was issued to the front line. And 286 00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:11,130 really is incredibly innovative for the era. 287 00:20:11,630 --> 00:20:14,590 It came about because what they were discovering is although they had rifles, 288 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:18,890 rifles have incredible range, but you would very rarely use them at the 289 00:20:18,890 --> 00:20:21,910 of their range unless you had sniper scopes or something. And that actual 290 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:27,230 for the most part, combat was happening at about no more than 300 yards or so. 291 00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:32,950 What they also noticed was that the Russians were using an incredible number 292 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:33,929 submachine guns. 293 00:20:33,930 --> 00:20:37,390 And what they needed was just a little bit of extra firepower and a little bit 294 00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:39,370 more lead in the battle zone. 295 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,920 So they wanted something that would operate like a rifle, but at greater 296 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,920 than a submachine gun. And this is how this came about. 297 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:56,800 The Sturmgewehr could fire its 7 .92mm bullets some 400 metres, compared with a 298 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,240 mere 80 for the MP40. 299 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:04,000 But innovative as it was, it took an age to get into production, and at least in 300 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,960 part its slow development was because Hitler was initially against it. 301 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,460 He felt that it required a different ammunition. 302 00:21:11,780 --> 00:21:16,080 He felt that rifles had worked in the First World War and before, that to 303 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,960 up on this would be expensive. 304 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:22,400 They didn't have the materials, they didn't have the time, they didn't have 305 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,800 machine tools to make vast numbers to replace the K98. 306 00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:28,420 So he was against it. 307 00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:33,680 First of all, they kind of changed the name from machine carbineur to machine 308 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,680 pistol. 309 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,600 But Hitler found out, and eventually he said, OK, fine, you can research this a 310 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,360 little bit more, but I don't want this to go into production. 311 00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:47,700 When he finally saw it being fired, he was, of course, converted, because 312 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:54,100 always liked innovation, and said, no, this is a Sturmgewehr, an assault rifle, 313 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,640 and they've been called assault rifles ever since. 314 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:01,400 The truth is, they were just a little bit too late and a little bit too small 315 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320 numbers to actually make much of an impact. 316 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:09,380 The greatest effect it has is on its legacy, because out of this came, of 317 00:22:09,380 --> 00:22:10,380 course, the AK -47. 318 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:19,140 The AK -47, the Kalashnikov, was created by the Soviets in 1947 and aped many 319 00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:20,500 features of the Sturmgewehr. 320 00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:27,500 I'm going to find out why it's still in active use today with Ben Simmons, a 321 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:28,720 former major in the British Army. 322 00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:32,680 He served on numerous tours to Afghanistan. 323 00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:36,240 and got first -hand experience of the Kalashnikov in action. 324 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,400 Ben, I'm holding the Sturmgewehr 44. 325 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,640 You've got an AK -47. 326 00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:46,280 You can see where Kalashnikov got his inspiration from, can't you? 327 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Well, certainly. There are a lot of things on these which appear similar at 328 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,620 first, but actually Kalashnikov made a much more robust weapon. 329 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,200 As was always the case with the Germans, massively over -engineered. The biggest 330 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,660 problem they had at the start was they had a wooden buttstock, and they had a 331 00:23:04,660 --> 00:23:06,200 spring that ran all the way through here. 332 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,740 Because they milled that hole to perfection, as soon as they took this to 333 00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:14,340 Russian front and it got cold and wet, that wood would expand and it jammed the 334 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:18,780 spring. Whereas the AK -47, massive gaps between all of the parts here, so that 335 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:22,920 this can be dunked in sand, mud, grit, dirt, anything else, and will still 336 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,240 continue to fire. These are very robust. 337 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,860 The German weapons designers had come a long way in the journey from the K98 338 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:32,240 rifle to the Sturmgewehr. 339 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:38,040 But the Allies also had to face a weapon whose rate of fire surpassed anything 340 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,040 seen before. 341 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,820 The MG34 machine gun. 342 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:44,840 This is the real stuff. 343 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,980 Captured German film showing their automatic weapons in action. 344 00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:53,680 These are the weapons we're up against in the European and Mediterranean states 345 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,680 of operation. 346 00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:03,270 The MG34 was a truly fearsome infantry weapon. 347 00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:08,890 It produced an immense weight of fire and a terrifying noise previously 348 00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:09,890 on the battlefield. 349 00:24:10,830 --> 00:24:12,110 How do they sound? 350 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:14,630 Well, here's their 34. 351 00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:21,130 It was an incredibly intimidating weapon to face. 352 00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:31,900 Firing up to 900 rounds a minute, it introduced an entirely new concept in 353 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:33,020 automatic firepower. 354 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,640 And it was a remarkable piece of engineering. 355 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:42,060 This is superbly engineered, isn't it? Yes. Look at all the detail on this. I 356 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:45,320 mean, just look at that there. I mean, this is just not something that you can 357 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,620 just knock off, is it? Yeah. I mean, it's absolutely second to none. I can't 358 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:54,600 believe 80 years ago, we did a quality which is, you can't... 359 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,180 Be it today, it's unbelievable. 360 00:24:58,340 --> 00:25:01,580 Even the ammunition belt is extraordinarily detailed. 361 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:07,100 The US Army made its belts out of canvas, much cheaper and easier to make. 362 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,340 Germans used metal. 363 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:10,220 We used the good stuff, yeah? 364 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:13,660 Yeah, but, you know, it's... Too much of it! 365 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Yeah, that's the problem. We probably lost the war, yeah? We used so much good 366 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,580 stuff. Too much good stuff and not enough mass produced. 367 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:28,450 Like so much else we've looked at, the MG34 was produced to a quality of 368 00:25:28,450 --> 00:25:31,550 engineering that made no sense in prolonged wartime conditions. 369 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:38,570 And in the course of my research, I've uncovered some evidence that at the very 370 00:25:38,570 --> 00:25:43,530 top of the Nazi high command, it was dawning that this concentration on 371 00:25:43,530 --> 00:25:47,110 over quantity was completely unsustainable. 372 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:51,150 You know, every so often when you're pouring through... 373 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:56,340 countless numbers of folders in archives, every so often you come across 374 00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:59,480 of absolute gold. And this document here is one of those. 375 00:25:59,780 --> 00:26:06,140 It's dated the 3rd of December 1941, so this is about 36 hours before the Red 376 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:10,300 Army counterattacks against the Germans just outside Moscow, and just a few days 377 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:14,000 before Pearl Harbor and the entry of the United States into the Second World 378 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000 War. 379 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,620 It's actually signed off by Adolf Hitler, although... 380 00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:22,590 signed on his behalf by General Thomas, who is the head of the Economic 381 00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:26,550 Division. And it's on this second page here, in this paragraph, this is the key 382 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:32,070 bit, where they admit that up until this point, they have been making highly 383 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:37,050 technical, highly engineered, and Schoenheitlich, beautiful, aesthetically 384 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:41,430 pleasing weapons up to this point, quite knowingly. Now, this is an absolutely 385 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:42,690 incredible admission. 386 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,700 after more than two years of fighting the war. 387 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,260 What are they talking about? 388 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,860 Well, I reckon they're talking about things like this. This is the MG34. 389 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:57,420 And you've only got to look at it. It's just an absolute work of art. 390 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,940 Deadly, yes, but an amazing bit of engineering. 391 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:07,120 But is it what you want in the middle of a long, drawn -out attritional war 392 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:11,420 where numbers actually count a little bit more? 393 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,140 And I've got another document here, and it's really interesting because it lists 394 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:19,440 here the weight of steel that is used for the construction of each of these 395 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,800 weapons. And if you take the MG34, for example, the amount of steel needed to 396 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,640 make one is 49 kilograms. 397 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,020 The finished weapon weighs 11 kilograms. 398 00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,760 And that's because they're starting with a solid bit of steel. 399 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600 And then they're having to kind of drill it out. 400 00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:45,040 And so it's no wonder that the MG34 takes 150 man -hours. Now, the British 401 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,380 which is the kind of rough equivalent, takes about 50. So you could have three 402 00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:53,520 Brens for every one MG34. 403 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,760 And it's just not an efficient way to fight the war. 404 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:04,360 A brilliant weapon, very amazing, but perhaps just a bit too amazing for the 405 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:08,980 task that's been given them. And they are still making these MG34s. 406 00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:11,470 right up to the very end in 1945. 407 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:19,110 The engineering response was to come up with a new model, a new production 408 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:20,110 method. 409 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:24,850 In 1942, the MG42 was introduced. 410 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:30,790 The latest German machine gun is the MG42. 411 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:35,650 New production methods which employ pressings, riveting and spot welding. 412 00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:40,230 Give it a less finished appearance than the MG34 without affecting its 413 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:41,230 efficiency. 414 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:47,350 Made out of stamped metal, the new design required considerably less 415 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:48,910 and less high -grade steel. 416 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:55,510 An astonishing three -quarters of a million were produced between 1942 and 417 00:28:57,870 --> 00:29:00,270 Same type of feed mechanisms are used. 418 00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:04,910 It took 75 man -hours to build, still more than the Bren gun. 419 00:29:05,290 --> 00:29:07,130 but half that of the MG34. 420 00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:10,670 And loading is accomplished in the same way. 421 00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:17,050 It also had an even faster rate of fire, a frightening 1 ,400 rounds a minute. 422 00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:23,490 23 bullets per second. 423 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:28,690 For an Allied rifleman facing a German machine gun nest, it was a truly 424 00:29:28,690 --> 00:29:29,850 terrifying prospect. 425 00:29:33,740 --> 00:29:36,500 In this test, each weapon will fire 30 rounds. 426 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:42,580 The U .S. Army training film did their best to debunk its fearsome reputation, 427 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:45,920 testing it here against the American equivalents. 428 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,480 There's a lot of lead down there. 429 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,980 Let's go see how much of it hit the target. 430 00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:53,740 16 hits for the German .42. 431 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:57,380 For the American light .30, 22 hits. 432 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:01,580 The German gun is good, but ours is better. 433 00:30:03,050 --> 00:30:08,070 But the very thing that made the MG42 so devastating was also its greatest 434 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:11,370 weakness. And another thing about that high rate of fire. 435 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:15,190 It eats up ammunition. 436 00:30:15,910 --> 00:30:19,770 And that meant its gun barrel got very hot, very quickly. 437 00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:27,230 I'm unable to experience the full rate of fire since in Germany today, 438 00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:31,130 firing is forbidden, and all of Stefan's machine guns have been converted to 439 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:32,130 semi -automatic. 440 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,200 But even firing just single shot, it produces a significant amount of heat. 441 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,500 Don't burn your finger. Yeah, but it's amazing. Already that is really hot. 442 00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:53,740 I can just about touch that. 443 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,220 23 rounds per second when it's firing at kind of full whack. 444 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,280 I mean, that's phenomenal, isn't it? I mean, you can understand how very 445 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,320 that would go red hot, then white hot. Because if you fire too many rounds too 446 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,160 quick... Your barrel's going to... Yes, the barrel is gone and... You can't do 447 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,240 it. It's gone, yeah. 448 00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:19,060 And that meant the barrel itself had to be changed. 449 00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:21,700 Not always an easy task under fire. 450 00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:27,740 To change the barrel, a barrel change lever hinged on the right side of the 451 00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:28,840 barrel jacket is provided. 452 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:34,280 The MG42 was designed with an internal removable barrel, so the machine gun 453 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,680 crews carried no less than six spares, which they changed over when things got 454 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,680 too hot. 455 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:46,900 So it enables you to put down an incredible weight of fire, but the flip 456 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:51,620 side of that is you do have to constantly change the barrel all the 457 00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:57,620 of course the barrel has to be cooled, otherwise you can't fire accurately. 458 00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:04,250 It's important to understand that there is a difference between actual rate of 459 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:09,570 fire, which on the MG42 was around 1 ,400 rounds a minute, and practical rate 460 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:13,570 fire, which is the rate of fire you can do in a minute without it all going 461 00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:17,930 kaput. And, you know, it was verboten in the German inventory manual to fire 462 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:22,190 more than 250 rounds consecutively. Otherwise, you're spending your whole 463 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:23,190 changing the barrels. 464 00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:25,210 I mean, there is a reason why. 465 00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:31,630 Modern machine guns don't fire at the same rate as the MG42 did during the 466 00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:32,630 Second World War. 467 00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:39,430 It remains one of the defining weapons of the Second World War and was quickly 468 00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:41,050 capitalized upon by the Russians. 469 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:49,850 At the end of the war, the original technical drawings for the MG42 were 470 00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:50,870 captured by the Soviet. 471 00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:57,470 This meant the German firm Rheinmetall had to reverse engineer an MG42 into 472 00:32:57,470 --> 00:33:00,210 became the almost identical MG3. 473 00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:04,230 It's now in use in over 30 countries around the world. 474 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:10,710 So, Ben, although there were problems with the MG42, in actual fact, the 475 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:14,310 is pretty enduring, isn't it? Because there's a version of this weapon still 476 00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:15,310 being produced today. 477 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Yes, so the MG3 is still in service with the German army at the moment, and 478 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,820 obviously lots of the design points from this have influenced things like the 479 00:33:24,820 --> 00:33:28,840 M60, which was in service with the US, and the GPMG, which is still in service 480 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,840 with the British today. 481 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,720 OK, so what is the difference between an M3 and an MG42? 482 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:38,780 Well, practically not a lot. I mean, they function in exactly the same way. A 483 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:41,200 lot of the parts are actually interchangeable. They're essentially the 484 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040 weapon. But presumably not quite the same rate of fire that it had in the 485 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:50,460 No, I mean, that was one of the weak points of the MG42, is the high rate of 486 00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:51,800 fire will cause it to overheat. 487 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,960 We're talking 1 ,400 rounds per minute, something around about that. 488 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,740 This version... 489 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:00,980 slowed down to about 800 or 900 rounds per minute, much more manageable, meant 490 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:02,900 it didn't overheat nearly so often. 491 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,620 But that's still pretty decent, isn't it? Yeah, still very good. I mean, 492 00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:08,020 all you really need. I mean, anything more than that and you're having to 493 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:09,020 far too much ammunition. 494 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:12,800 Yep. So how do you kind of reduce that rate of fire, if the design is much the 495 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,560 same? So with this, it's heavier parts, stronger springs, so... Just slows it 496 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,860 down. Just slows it all down, yeah. 497 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,239 And what about the barrel in here? I mean, is that made of a different metal 498 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,239 today? 499 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:27,530 Well, at the time in World War II when the Germans were manufacturing the MG42, 500 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,449 they had no access to things like manganese, which enabled them to make 501 00:34:30,449 --> 00:34:31,590 stronger metals. 502 00:34:31,810 --> 00:34:34,150 So they went for much cheaper stuff like carbon steel. 503 00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:40,190 So actually the MG3, the reason why it's still in service today is because it's 504 00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:43,510 a much better version of the MG42, which is a pretty good gun to begin with. 505 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,639 It's time we moved on to something a bit bigger than these infantry weapons. 506 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,160 The firepower of Nazi field artillery. 507 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,240 The threat posed by Allied tanks, first on the eastern front against the Soviet 508 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,560 Union, and then the Allies in the west, led the Germans to come up with a new 509 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560 type of artillery. 510 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,540 Designed to pierce enemy armour with larger high -velocity shells, 511 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,660 Anti -tank weapons were developed both for supporting the infantry... This is 512 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:23,580 the result of our tank destroying weapons, is the boast. 513 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040 ...and for specialist artillery units. 514 00:35:28,540 --> 00:35:35,240 And that's what we're going to take a look at now. 515 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:40,060 Surprisingly, 516 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,500 Not everything the Nazi war machine produced was over -engineered and 517 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:50,500 complicated. 518 00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,720 Take, for example, the Panzerfaust anti -tank launcher. 519 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,820 This is just breathtaking for its simplicity and is exactly what you 520 00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:06,820 expect from the Germans. They could do it if they really had to. So what you do 521 00:36:06,820 --> 00:36:09,740 is, you know, this is a hollow charge. It's just a simple... 522 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:13,680 steel tube. There's nothing more to it than that. It's a one -shot wonder. 523 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,800 You lift this up, and you can see it's got kind of ranging on here, but as the 524 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,260 warning on here says, you don't want to be firing this more than 60 meters. In 525 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:25,980 fact, you don't really want to be doing it more than about 15 or 20 meters. I 526 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:29,820 mean, this is almost a point -blank range thing. You hold it like that, you 527 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:32,240 and you literally just press down on this. 528 00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:39,190 This bit of it then comes out in here are some fins which expand as it is 529 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:45,250 released from the tube. That hits your target, explodes and causes really a 530 00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:46,710 pretty large amount of damage. 531 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:55,080 The key, though, as I said, is to get as close as you possibly can. 532 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,680 So this is jumping out of a hedgerow, firing it point blank at the side of a 533 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,300 tank or something like that. And, of course, therein lies the rub. 534 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:09,680 You know, this is almost a suicide weapon. Not quite, but not far off it, 535 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,880 because the only way this is going to be effective is if you're really, really 536 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,880 close to your enemy. 537 00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:18,550 And the problem is, if you're incredibly close to your enemy, you're also 538 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:20,370 incredibly vulnerable as well. 539 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:31,270 Back from Germany, 540 00:37:31,390 --> 00:37:35,910 I'm now at the Weald Foundation in Kent, which houses a vast collection of 541 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:37,250 restored Nazi war machines. 542 00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:48,330 You know, one of the main anti -tank weapons they had. What a collection. 543 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:49,970 This is absolutely amazing. 544 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:59,030 On the Eastern Front in 1941, the German army came face to face with the almost 545 00:37:59,030 --> 00:38:01,750 indestructible Russian T -34 tank. 546 00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:06,970 They needed a weapon that had the power and velocity to take it on and win. 547 00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:12,410 The answer was the PAK -40 anti -tank gun. 548 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,180 This was a low -silhouetted, easy -to -conceal weapon that could fire its 75mm 549 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:23,660 armour -piercing shells up to 5 miles. 550 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:25,660 It required a crew of six. 551 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:31,780 History hasn't been especially kind to the Pak 40. 552 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:36,380 It's earned a reputation for being cumbersome in the field, so I'm going to 553 00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:40,000 that out with the Weald Foundation's enthusiastic band of brothers. 554 00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:46,070 One of the criticisms about the PAK -40 is that it was kind of too difficult to 555 00:38:46,070 --> 00:38:48,230 manoeuvre and too slow to get into position. 556 00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:52,850 I'm not sure I believe that, so I'm quite interested to see how long it's 557 00:38:52,850 --> 00:38:58,570 to take us to unhitch it, open up the fork and get it into position. 558 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:03,690 The clock is ticking. 559 00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:07,750 The speed with which these anti -tank guns could be deployed in the field was 560 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:12,910 vital. Any delay in taking out the enemy meant the difference between advance or 561 00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:13,910 retreat. 562 00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:21,330 So the Pak 40 had to be easy to manoeuvre if it was to pull its weight 563 00:39:21,330 --> 00:39:26,550 battle. I'm lining that up, up a little bit, round a little bit, 564 00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:30,310 shove it in, where's the firing button? 565 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:34,870 Well, I'm sorry, but that was less than a minute. It was. 566 00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:36,339 Less than a minute. 567 00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:39,780 The driving force behind the Weald Foundation is Mike Gibb. 568 00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:43,780 The point, I think, Mike, is this is a really versatile weapon. It's high 569 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:48,960 velocity, it's an anti -tank gun, it's not massive at all. And the thing is 570 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,300 there is if you are offloaded or unloaded in the wrong spot, then you've 571 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:54,400 that very wide traverse. 572 00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:57,740 Jeepers, I'm still going here. Yeah. 573 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,200 God, your whole herd is about to go. 574 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:06,670 I think that's really impressive. For me, this is a really, really top piece 575 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:09,750 kit. Because it's all very well having a powerful gun, but you need to be able 576 00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:12,990 to manoeuvre it, you need to be able to use it practically, and this is 577 00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:13,990 something you can do. 578 00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:17,730 You know, five of us were able to manoeuvre this really, really pretty 579 00:40:17,930 --> 00:40:20,410 Yep. And we're not trained for the job. No, we're not. 580 00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:23,790 And we're a little bit long in the hoop as well. Yes, exactly, yes. We're not as 581 00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:25,730 young as those guys would have been. 582 00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:29,510 The Pak 40 had other strengths as well. 583 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:38,670 It became the staple cannon on the artillery's tracked anti -tank vehicle, 584 00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:41,070 Sturmgeschütz 40, or StuG. 585 00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:46,810 Conveniently, Mike has a working example of one of these as well. 586 00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:54,150 The first thing that strikes you is just how low the profile is, and yet you've 587 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:59,370 got the big 75mm anti -tank gun on it. This was a very, very potent fighting 588 00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:00,370 machine. 589 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:07,750 These would normally be operating in tandem with the infantry. 590 00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:13,350 They had such a good reputation amongst the Panzergrenadiers that often when 591 00:41:13,350 --> 00:41:17,870 they'd run out of ammunition, they were told to keep driving on even without 592 00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:22,090 ammunition because it gave everyone around them that feeling that they would 593 00:41:22,090 --> 00:41:26,110 far more effective. It actually had quite a talismanic effect on the troops 594 00:41:26,110 --> 00:41:27,110 operated with them. 595 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:35,470 To protect the gun from mine, the Germans developed a unique anti 596 00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:36,470 coating. 597 00:41:36,810 --> 00:41:42,690 The Germans developed this anti -magnetic mine paste, which, when 598 00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:47,070 through the outside of a vehicle, would result in the magnetic mines which were 599 00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:52,190 being used at the time, by the Russians primarily, to not stick on the 600 00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:53,190 superstructure. 601 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:59,030 But the paste, a mixture of sawdust, pine resin and petrol, brought its own 602 00:41:59,030 --> 00:42:00,030 problems. 603 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:05,280 The German crews were talking about these bursting into flame when they 604 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,940 actually been penetrated. So the rounds hadn't even gone through the side. So 605 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:13,540 what's happened, the kinetic force of the round hitting it has caused sparks. 606 00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:18,160 even just a tracer. Tracer, yeah. A tracer round. It ignited the fuel and 607 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,380 all just gone whoosh. So this stuff is only partially successful. 608 00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:22,380 It stops you having mines on it, but... 609 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,800 Correct. It causes a whole load of other problems. And because of all of that, 610 00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:30,280 this was discontinued then, just after mid -1944. 611 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:31,500 Gone. 612 00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:35,580 This is one of the problems I've come up against time and time again. 613 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,240 There you go. 614 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,900 As the war drew towards its close, the Nazi regime simply didn't have the time, 615 00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:46,080 the manpower, or the resources for research and development. 616 00:42:46,420 --> 00:42:49,940 So they were just having to take a punt and hoping that it would work. 617 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:01,020 The Pak 40 with its 75mm high -velocity shell was a very effective weapon. 618 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,660 But of course the Nazi regime couldn't let it rest there. 619 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,700 As usual, they had to go one bigger. 620 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:18,580 I'm off to the Tank Museum of Bovington to meet the Pak 40's successor, the Pak 621 00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:22,880 43, which is mounted with a massive 88mm cannon. 622 00:43:24,140 --> 00:43:28,920 The first thing that strikes me is just how big this is. I mean, it's enormous, 623 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040 isn't it? I mean, look at it. Look at the size of these wheels. 624 00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:39,520 This huge, long gun. I mean, this can hurtle a shell at a kilometre a second. 625 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680 what's that? About 3 ,400 feet. 626 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,800 You know, that is some velocity. 627 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:47,060 The 75mm PAC gun, the PAC -40. 628 00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:52,570 I mean, that can do about 3 ,000 feet a second, 2 ,900 feet a second. So not a 629 00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:56,710 huge amount in it. Obviously, a slightly smaller shell, 75 millimetres rather 630 00:43:56,710 --> 00:44:02,470 than 88 millimetres. But a fraction of the size. So much easier to put into 631 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:06,090 position. You know, you could tow that in with a horse if you needed to. 632 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:07,770 Not this. 633 00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:14,030 So whether this has the kind of practicality by the latter part of the 634 00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:16,630 not sure. But if you can get it into position... 635 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,140 then this is going to really cause some damage. 636 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,860 But overall, I wonder whether it's just a bit too big. 637 00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:37,320 We've looked at a lot of different weapons in the course of this episode. 638 00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:44,500 From tiny handguns to massive anti -tank... 639 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,080 Back in Otto's workshop, it's time to take stock. 640 00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:58,520 I suppose what I've learned is that the quality of German engineering when it 641 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,320 comes to weapons cannot be doubted at all. I mean, you look at this Mauser and 642 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,400 it's just... The craftsmanship is incredible and I can't stop thinking 643 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,800 mechanism of the MG34 and the MP38. 644 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,020 Absolutely wonderful pieces of engineering. 645 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,780 And yet perhaps it was just too good. Perhaps it was over -engineered. And 646 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:24,220 interesting that although later in the war they're introducing cheaper MG42s 647 00:45:24,220 --> 00:45:30,180 right at the end the Sturmgewehr, it feels just a little bit too late to help 648 00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:31,019 the Germans. 649 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:33,520 Their legacy is still being felt because... 650 00:45:34,540 --> 00:45:39,140 You know, out of the Sturmgewehr came the Kalashnikov, still being produced in 651 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:43,500 vast numbers to this day, and a version of the MG42 is still being used as well. 652 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:48,100 So there is a legacy for those weapons, but they didn't work for Germany in 653 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:49,100 World War II. 654 00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:55,160 The German weapons designers and engineers have certainly left their mark 655 00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,040 history, but I have to say, the gap between the legend of the mighty Nazi 656 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,160 machine and the reality for the infantry on the ground... 657 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,100 has been well and truly uncovered. 58940

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