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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:24,240 Now, I'll never forget, 12 or so years ago, long after the Super Bowls was the 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:28,620 90s, I had some cancer treatment. 3 00:00:29,580 --> 00:00:34,740 My doctors there at MD Anderson said that you need to do a lot of meditation. 4 00:00:36,380 --> 00:00:38,800 And I said, well, I don't know how to meditate. 5 00:00:40,460 --> 00:00:45,940 So they sent a doctor in and they explained to me, make a list of 10 6 00:00:46,510 --> 00:00:48,510 People who can just boil your blood. 7 00:00:50,370 --> 00:00:57,230 Start with the one at the very top and wish them the 8 00:00:57,230 --> 00:01:00,150 greatest things you possibly can wish for. 9 00:01:01,750 --> 00:01:03,750 Greatest health, the greatest success. 10 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:08,010 Everything that can possibly happen good to somebody, wish that for them. 11 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:13,610 And at number one, I wrote down the name, Jimmy Johnson. 12 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:22,530 I went back to my doctor a few weeks later, and I told her, I can't get 13 00:01:22,530 --> 00:01:27,270 past that first motherfucker, is what I replied back to her. 14 00:01:29,850 --> 00:01:32,550 There's trouble at the top of America's team. 15 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:38,070 A long -running feud between Jimmy Johnson and team owner Jerry Jones 16 00:01:38,070 --> 00:01:39,070 exploded today. 17 00:01:39,410 --> 00:01:42,330 We're at a place called Pleasure Island. You guys are having some drinks, and 18 00:01:42,330 --> 00:01:44,110 it's late. You guys are having a good time. 19 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:54,360 And then when we ran into him later that night, Jerry was 20 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,520 irritated. He said, I'm going to fire that motherfucking Jimmy Johnson. 21 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Who's going to fire a guy who just won back -to -back Super Bowls? 22 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,979 This was Jerry's rejection that was talking. It was not alcohol that was 23 00:02:09,979 --> 00:02:11,940 speaking. Then he gave us the vote. 24 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,510 And he said, 500 coaches could win the Super Bowl with this team. 25 00:02:16,930 --> 00:02:21,450 There are lines you can't cross, and there was no turning back. 26 00:02:22,750 --> 00:02:27,030 Jimmy has released a statement. I'm deeply hurt that after five years of 27 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:30,530 commitment to the rebuilding of the Cowboys that I have been treated in this 28 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:35,170 way. In Jerry's mind, this team was so talented, a team that he was a general 29 00:02:35,170 --> 00:02:38,030 manager of, that anybody could have coached his team to the championship. 30 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:40,310 He wanted more credit. 31 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:44,790 How can you say 500 coaches when you only have had one? 32 00:02:45,670 --> 00:02:49,790 Jimmy's not going anywhere because Jerry's not stupid enough to let him. 33 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:53,090 Troy Aikman said he might not have signed his eight -year, $50 million 34 00:02:53,090 --> 00:02:56,250 if he knew that Jimmy Johnson's future was in doubt. 35 00:02:56,550 --> 00:03:01,410 I think there was a lack of appreciation for what we had accomplished and how 36 00:03:01,410 --> 00:03:03,350 hard it was to do what we had just done. 37 00:03:06,850 --> 00:03:07,990 I could not understand. 38 00:03:10,970 --> 00:03:14,290 How the hell are we taking a car to the shop that was not broken? 39 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:23,450 This is purplish bullshit. 40 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:25,890 Is Jimmy going to be your coach, Jerry? 41 00:03:26,270 --> 00:03:28,710 We'll visit my dad as we go along with the week. 42 00:03:29,870 --> 00:03:34,450 I said, you're the best at this, Dad. You sit down with Jimmy and smooth it 43 00:03:34,450 --> 00:03:39,010 out. By 2 o 'clock, Johnson was headed toward Jerry Jones' office, where the 44 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:41,170 would meet for the next two hours and 30 minutes. 45 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:43,270 I don't know any more than you all know. 46 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:46,210 I mean, I really felt like they'd work it out. 47 00:03:46,490 --> 00:03:49,850 The fact that they met today and will meet again tomorrow is good news to you. 48 00:03:50,510 --> 00:03:53,210 If you have two parents, they're getting a divorce. 49 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:55,970 When you're young, you don't know why they got a divorce. 50 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:58,750 You just know that they got a divorce, right? 51 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,620 And I picked up the paper the next morning. 52 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:07,120 The headline was, Jones says my way or the highway. 53 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:16,120 And so the minute we saw each other that next morning, we said, sit and go home. 54 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:25,280 We have mutually decided that I would no longer be the head football coach 55 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,800 with the Dallas Cowboys. 56 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:52,160 When you own something and someone is worried about who's the boss, that 57 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,540 really is almost... Let me back this up. Yeah. 58 00:04:59,340 --> 00:05:05,660 You often hear when you have a tragedy, someone takes their own life. 59 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:11,160 Well, people look back and they say, they were giving us warning signs. 60 00:05:11,460 --> 00:05:14,580 They had scratches on their wrists. They had those kinds of things. 61 00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:16,340 Look back at that. 62 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,260 I respect Jerry Jones. 63 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:22,280 I like Jerry Jones. 64 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,480 And I think he feels the same way about me. 65 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,320 We'll see. 66 00:05:30,020 --> 00:05:32,660 Let me go back again. 67 00:05:37,340 --> 00:05:41,240 I've had a tremendous respect for Jimmy since I was 17 years old. 68 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,900 And anytime you buy a football team, you go get your best friend to coach it. 69 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Jimmy and I had come from some of the greatest experiences you could ever have 70 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,520 in college. 71 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:03,460 And having had that euphoria of a national championship together, nothing 72 00:06:03,460 --> 00:06:04,460 it. 73 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,940 And again... 74 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,480 Knowing that you just don't read about that. 75 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,360 That it actually can happen to you. 76 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,960 That pained me. 77 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,380 And I just wanted to recapture that. 78 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,240 He wanted to be part of the team. 79 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:34,420 And I understand, he's the owner, he should be part of it. 80 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:38,160 But by the same token, I'm the coach. 81 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,980 I felt like maybe I could push through and coach another year, but 82 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:51,200 the more I looked into it, the more I said, hey, I could hurt it more than I 83 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,200 could help it. 84 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:55,840 The problem came after we won the first Super Bowl. 85 00:06:56,260 --> 00:07:01,480 We got to where we weren't communicating like we did the first early years when 86 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,480 we weren't winning. 87 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,460 When you're 1 and 15, you don't have a lot of friends, so we liked talking to 88 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:08,460 each other. 89 00:07:08,940 --> 00:07:09,940 That old. 90 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,320 a fraud called success pop up and everybody get a little full of 91 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,440 I and me, when I should have tolerated, I didn't. 92 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,840 I should have been more understanding. 93 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:34,600 I was in my own little world and was very comfortable in 94 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,600 my little world. 95 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:46,910 In Orlando, when he raises the glass and proposes a toast, he wanted the 96 00:07:46,910 --> 00:07:50,270 acceptance. He wanted the validation of those coaches. 97 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:56,050 But if you're an owner, they'll never treat you like you're one of them 98 00:07:56,050 --> 00:07:59,930 it's such a price to pay to win the Super Bowl. 99 00:08:00,310 --> 00:08:04,370 You're probably going to be on your third marriage, and your kids are going 100 00:08:04,370 --> 00:08:05,850 hate you because you were never there. 101 00:08:07,310 --> 00:08:12,210 They'll never feel like you earned the right to backslap with them. 102 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:20,250 But Jerry, he mortgaged his future for this team. He brought in Jimmy Johnson, 103 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:22,330 which people ridiculed then, the college coach. 104 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:25,890 He took a lot of gambles to make this thing work. 105 00:08:26,490 --> 00:08:28,350 The team goes 1 -15. 106 00:08:28,970 --> 00:08:32,150 All the criticism is directed at Jerry Jones. 107 00:08:32,409 --> 00:08:34,309 And he just stood there and took all the plings and arrows. 108 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:38,650 And now when they start winning... Jimmy's getting all the credit, and 109 00:08:38,650 --> 00:08:42,610 kind of in the background, not getting any credit. He couldn't live with that. 110 00:08:42,809 --> 00:08:49,390 The one thing that hurt me, really hurt me, 111 00:08:49,850 --> 00:08:53,830 500 coaches couldn't coach that team to a Super Bowl. 112 00:08:54,910 --> 00:08:55,910 And maybe they could have. 113 00:08:58,970 --> 00:09:03,050 But I took a lot of pride in putting together that team, you know. 114 00:09:04,330 --> 00:09:06,790 And when you diminish that, that hurt me. 115 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:11,590 Shame on me. 116 00:09:12,810 --> 00:09:14,010 I grew careless. 117 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:17,810 It wasn't like I wasn't trying to figure through it. 118 00:09:19,870 --> 00:09:25,870 If we don't look out, we'll take 119 00:09:25,870 --> 00:09:31,290 one of the greatest stories that's ever been told in sports, in my view. 120 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:34,360 And we'd take all the positives of that. 121 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:42,540 We'd take, there are no negatives when you really look at it. 122 00:09:43,940 --> 00:09:46,560 If I'd have stayed with the Cowboys, I'd have been miserable. 123 00:09:46,980 --> 00:09:49,840 And I'm no good to anybody if I'm not enjoying it. 124 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:52,160 Then it was time for me to move on. 125 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:57,120 And what do you side with Johnson or Jones in this? It is a sad day. Johnson 126 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 built this team, and I don't think that's something that Jerry Jones could 127 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,980 with. Everywhere, hoping it all didn't come crashing down. 128 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,260 Jimmy wouldn't even be there if it wasn't for Jerry. I've never liked Jerry 129 00:10:05,260 --> 00:10:08,700 Jones, and I like him even less now. He's an owner who is insatiable. 130 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,660 I come home that night and get in the bed. 131 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:20,320 Gene's laying there, not looking at me, just looking at the ceiling. 132 00:10:22,030 --> 00:10:25,150 She says, you just can't help it, can you? 133 00:10:25,890 --> 00:10:30,930 You just can't live with good, going good. 134 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:33,850 I said, you just can't do it. 135 00:10:34,370 --> 00:10:39,210 I said, here we are, I won two Super Bowls, and you walk out there and make a 136 00:10:39,210 --> 00:10:40,210 change with the coach. 137 00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:45,090 You just can't handle some solid, really good times. 138 00:10:46,770 --> 00:10:50,390 Now, I usually say that smiling and laughing at her. 139 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,980 I don't know why right now that I'm getting sensitive about it. 140 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:09,120 The artful thing that Jerry did in all of this was, the story in the Dallas 141 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Morning News the next day, Barry Switzer's the new Cowboys head coach. 142 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:22,180 March 28th, 1994. 143 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,360 I remember this because I'd had a colonoscopy that morning. 144 00:11:27,940 --> 00:11:30,560 Anybody that's had a colonoscopy doesn't forget a colonoscopy. 145 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:34,900 When I got home, the phone rings. 146 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Jerry Jones wants to talk to you. 147 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,140 Jerry said, do you want to coach the Cowboys? I said, I didn't know the damn 148 00:11:40,140 --> 00:11:40,739 was open. 149 00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:43,900 He said, well, it's going to be open. And I said, well, when it's open, give 150 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:44,579 a call. 151 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:45,580 That was my interview. 152 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:51,670 Five years ago, I said, we will win. 153 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:54,990 We must win, and winning is the name of the game. 154 00:11:55,210 --> 00:12:00,110 Nothing has changed in five years with the new head coach, Barry Switzer. 155 00:12:01,270 --> 00:12:07,330 I absolutely believe that the hire of Barry Switzer was a little off towards 156 00:12:07,330 --> 00:12:09,510 Jimmy from Jerry. 157 00:12:09,770 --> 00:12:12,670 Barry was my freshman coach at the University of Arkansas. 158 00:12:13,630 --> 00:12:17,610 Jimmy and Jerry played on the team, and Switzer was on the coaching staff. 159 00:12:18,270 --> 00:12:20,610 Arkansas, we all had a good run together. 160 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:24,690 And then Barry went on to dominate college football as the head coach at 161 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:25,690 University of Oklahoma. 162 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:30,450 His winning percentage of nearly 84%, the fourth best in college history. 163 00:12:32,430 --> 00:12:34,650 Wherever I went, they knew who we were. 164 00:12:35,050 --> 00:12:36,630 They knew what Oklahoma did. 165 00:12:40,450 --> 00:12:44,230 Ironically, at the same time, Jimmy Johnson was head coach at rival Oklahoma 166 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:47,970 State. So if there's one game Jimmy wanted to win every year, it would be 167 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:51,750 Oklahoma. Who's the better coach here? When he was at Oklahoma State, I was the 168 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:55,530 better coach. When Jimmy was at Oklahoma State, we beat him three years in a 169 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:59,270 row. The Oklahoma Center is perhaps one of the most talented college teams ever, 170 00:12:59,350 --> 00:13:00,350 the national champions. 171 00:13:01,230 --> 00:13:03,230 But then he went on to Miami from there. 172 00:13:04,350 --> 00:13:08,930 They beat my ass every year. The Hurricane win a national championship 173 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:09,990 Coach Jimmy Johnson. 174 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:14,130 I thought you came to play football. 175 00:13:15,470 --> 00:13:17,810 I'm ready to go. I want to start tomorrow. 176 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:21,310 The call to choice controversial is an understatement. 177 00:13:21,570 --> 00:13:24,010 Your starting quarterback was caught selling cocaine. 178 00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:26,250 There was a shooting. There was a gang raid. 179 00:13:26,590 --> 00:13:30,430 I was a bad boy. The press, they always threw me in there when something 180 00:13:30,430 --> 00:13:31,419 negative happened. 181 00:13:31,420 --> 00:13:35,280 They said that cash and cars and airline tickets wound up in the hands of 182 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,840 players. When he stepped down after the 1988 season, Oklahoma was on probation, 183 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,580 its image stained, and Switzer's too. He has not coached since. 184 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:49,860 I knew how controversial it would be. 185 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:51,820 And he was ideal. 186 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,120 This thing has a chance to really be some fun. 187 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,060 But Barry Switzer had been retired for five years. 188 00:14:00,570 --> 00:14:02,730 Never even really aspired to coach in the NFL. 189 00:14:03,490 --> 00:14:06,090 We've got a job to do and we're going to do it, baby! 190 00:14:07,850 --> 00:14:11,670 You want me to prove that 500 guys could win the Super Bowl with this team, 191 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:15,510 Jimmy? I'm going to hire the guy who's least likely to do it. 192 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:18,750 Michael Irvin was visibly agitated. 193 00:14:19,010 --> 00:14:22,270 You brought in a guy that never coached at that level? 194 00:14:22,670 --> 00:14:24,250 Jerry's the bad guy here, right? 195 00:14:25,070 --> 00:14:27,430 Jimmy's the good guy. I read the poll in the paper today. 196 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:31,150 You know, just want to take it one day at a time and play it by ear. 197 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:32,710 I didn't know what to make of it. 198 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:37,270 I hope I can do as good a job as Jimmy Johnson. That's what you're hoping, and 199 00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:39,010 that's damn sure what you're hoping. 200 00:14:39,850 --> 00:14:40,850 That's why I'm here. 201 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:45,470 Hey, I'm going to redecorate Tom and Jimmy's office. 202 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:52,370 It's the Barry and Jerry show opening today. 203 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:56,390 And the pressure is on for a Super Bowl three -peat. We're talking about the 204 00:14:56,390 --> 00:14:59,010 pressure to three -peat. We're looking for a three -peat. 205 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:02,270 Coach, welcome to your new home. Thank you. It's good to be here, Jerry. Thank 206 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:03,270 you for that opportunity. 207 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:07,390 I've been to pro camps before, and, you know, I didn't have these people walking 208 00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:08,390 backwards. 209 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,660 I guess you'd call this a media circus with about 300 credentials or so. 210 00:15:12,860 --> 00:15:15,580 All eyes are forced on Barry Switzer. 211 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,300 I didn't think you'd be in my bedroom. 212 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,680 That's a surprise. 213 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,560 There was tremendous pressure. 214 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:24,400 I mean, no other coach in the NFL had a tougher job than what I had that year. 215 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:27,580 There's all you media folks getting in the way. 216 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Offensively, defensively, players were all upset because Jimmy's gone, all 217 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:36,240 This is going to be the most exciting, this is going to be the most challenging 218 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,520 camp that we've ever been a part of. 219 00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:40,060 I mean, I had a lot to overcome. 220 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:44,040 We're going to do it my way, and that's it. And let me go coach. 221 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,140 Let me go do what I want to do. 222 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:54,380 Not knowing how Barry's going to handle the situation left 223 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:55,720 everybody kind of in limbo. 224 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,180 Because we had the same pieces of the puzzle in place. 225 00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:01,960 All he had to do was just be the manager of the team. 226 00:16:02,890 --> 00:16:04,250 and not mess the team up. 227 00:16:05,850 --> 00:16:10,490 He didn't know the players, he didn't know the coaches, and he just got 228 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:12,750 in on top of this great pyramid. 229 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:18,370 I'm trying to match names with faces right now. Jimmy was highly involved in 230 00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:22,070 almost every single drill. He would interact, get in, fit the tempo. 231 00:16:22,290 --> 00:16:26,170 Where Barry has taken more of an approach of allowing the coaches to be 232 00:16:26,170 --> 00:16:28,670 that fit the tempo, he's going to be an evaluator. 233 00:16:32,490 --> 00:16:36,650 I remember the first day that Barry Switzer was the head coach. 234 00:16:37,310 --> 00:16:41,270 Jerry was on the field with the coaches. 235 00:16:43,710 --> 00:16:50,630 It was a 236 00:16:50,630 --> 00:16:54,070 stark contrast to anything that had happened in the first five years. 237 00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:58,570 I just remember thinking that things are different going forward. 238 00:16:59,370 --> 00:17:00,129 Hey, coach. 239 00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:05,010 What is your job description for the Dallas Cowboys? Well, I think that most 240 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:09,510 people will say that I'm a puppet for Jerry Jones, but that's not true. I'm 241 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:10,550 going to be a football coach. 242 00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:15,890 A lot of guys liked him because now the guys felt that they had freedom. 243 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:19,190 Barry came into that locker room. 244 00:17:19,470 --> 00:17:24,790 The dynamics, the accountability, the work ethic, 245 00:17:25,010 --> 00:17:27,650 that it changed. 246 00:17:29,639 --> 00:17:33,080 Michael Irvin took all the players out on the town one night, and they were out 247 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,120 partying all night long. 248 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:39,540 I said, don't you guys have a curfew? He goes, hey, switchers are cooked. Who 249 00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:40,540 cares? 250 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,320 So we get to the practice field the next day. 251 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,580 You could tell. Everybody just hung over like crazy. 252 00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:50,880 Barry just blows his whistle and says, boys, go hit the pool. 253 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:53,240 This is a resort town. I'm going to the beach. 254 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:54,800 We had moments like that. 255 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,680 Hell, I hit the pool. 256 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,440 Well, that's what I'm going to say. 257 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,440 Barry just believed every man should be able to take care of himself and get 258 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,440 himself ready. 259 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,900 Jimmy's going to ride it hard. 260 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:09,580 Barry will trust you. 261 00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:14,220 I'm a positive reinforcement type of guy. 262 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,040 I'm not an ass chewer. 263 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:18,980 No one likes to be hard, dog cussed and all that. 264 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,360 Everybody knows how I am. 265 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,960 And then he had to come into the organization, absorb Jimmy's staff. 266 00:18:25,530 --> 00:18:26,950 Not bring anybody with him. 267 00:18:27,170 --> 00:18:31,150 Some people have said to me, you've got like five head coaches. Those guys and I 268 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:32,150 get along great. 269 00:18:32,910 --> 00:18:34,930 Butch Davis thought he should have been the head coach. 270 00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:37,830 Joe Avazano thought he should have been the head coach. 271 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:43,030 They were sniping behind his back all the time. I'll think about firing 272 00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:46,470 tonight over there. And next thing I know, he's punching me in the arm. I'm 273 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:48,530 like, what's this goofy son of a bitch doing? 274 00:18:48,730 --> 00:18:53,130 They know who the boss is, and I am the boss. You know why? Because I came to 275 00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:55,050 Dallas with more money than Jimmy. 276 00:18:57,090 --> 00:18:59,510 And Dale didn't like that. 277 00:19:00,070 --> 00:19:04,390 And then it just became like a nine -and -a -half -minute shouting match. 278 00:19:04,790 --> 00:19:11,490 It was a hard job, I think, for Barry to 279 00:19:11,490 --> 00:19:12,490 take. 280 00:19:19,660 --> 00:19:20,660 How is training camp? 281 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,160 It's been long. 282 00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:25,040 The grind has gotten to some of our players. 283 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,240 It's gotten to me right now, and I'm going to take a bite of this right here. 284 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:34,680 What the hell is going on here? 285 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,800 I guess I'm damn tired of this shit. 286 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:48,010 The NFL season is underway, and with it, the Barry Switzer era. Can Switzer hit 287 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:49,290 the ground running in Dallas? 288 00:19:49,950 --> 00:19:50,950 Expectations are high. 289 00:19:51,030 --> 00:19:53,690 We are going to three -peat! We are going to make history! 290 00:19:54,030 --> 00:19:56,810 Both Jerry Jones and Barry Switzer have a lot on the line. 291 00:19:57,010 --> 00:20:00,550 Jerry said there are 500 coaches who can win the Super Bowl with this team. 292 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:04,910 I felt tremendous pressure that, hey, we need to win this for Jerry. 293 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:10,390 Goddamn it, we've got to play football! 294 00:20:10,670 --> 00:20:11,670 Goddamn football! 295 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,340 Coach Swift walked past everybody and walked over to me and said, whether we 296 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:25,180 lose or not is on you because you're my bell cow. 297 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:27,140 And I'm going like, shit. 298 00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:43,630 Charles Haley sacks the quarterback four times. 299 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:46,290 I ain't thanking Charles to do that every damn game. 300 00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:49,090 Good Lord, let's go get it done. 301 00:20:49,470 --> 00:20:51,330 That's what I said now. Hey, 302 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:53,110 come and play. 303 00:20:53,690 --> 00:20:54,690 Uh -huh. 304 00:20:55,970 --> 00:20:56,470 And 305 00:20:56,470 --> 00:21:03,850 the 306 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:08,950 hunt for the team's third trade trip to the Super Bowl is up. 307 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:18,270 If you're going to do something, you want to be the best at it. And then if 308 00:21:18,270 --> 00:21:21,750 are the best at it, you want to be doing it in a place where people appreciate 309 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:22,750 it. 310 00:21:26,050 --> 00:21:30,810 It's part and parcel of Dallas, Texas. If you win Super Bowl, snap your 311 00:21:30,930 --> 00:21:34,230 whatever you want, you'll have it in your lap for free. 312 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:36,630 And I put this thing on right here. 313 00:21:37,450 --> 00:21:39,410 It's like a key to the castle. 314 00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:47,090 I had my share of fun. 315 00:21:47,310 --> 00:21:48,650 Trust me, I did. 316 00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:50,150 I did. 317 00:21:53,290 --> 00:21:59,650 I wanted to get right there as a friend as opposed to the boss that wrote the 318 00:21:59,650 --> 00:22:04,530 check. One night I found myself on the back of Charles Haley's motorcycle. 319 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:07,490 Man. And Jerry can drink. 320 00:22:07,810 --> 00:22:12,070 It was about 2 o 'clock in the morning. He drove it inside this restaurant and 321 00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:14,170 made our rounds and then drove back out. 322 00:22:15,170 --> 00:22:18,750 Hey, it was crazy, man. They took over the strip club. 323 00:22:19,210 --> 00:22:20,650 We would hit all the spots. 324 00:22:21,210 --> 00:22:24,310 Gather your friends and head on down to where there's always a party going on. 325 00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:26,710 Collegial. The gentleman's club in Dallas. 326 00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:28,670 We played hard. 327 00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:32,710 And the ball kicked off at the 48 -yard line by James Ward. 328 00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:35,480 And then we played hard. 329 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:43,720 That was the gladiator days. The gladiator goes and have the great night 330 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,860 he slays everything. 331 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:49,400 We had our picks. 332 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,400 at enjoying beautiful specimens God has placed on this beautiful earth. 333 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,180 Michael Irvin looked at us in the eye and he said, if any of my teammates are 334 00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:02,980 saying we don't want to win three Super Bowls in a row and be the first team to 335 00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:04,000 do that, they're lying. 336 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Cops knew, city officials knew, players without question had a past. 337 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Jerry had guys to make sure that... 338 00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:21,060 You know, whenever things came up, they would catch before it became something. 339 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,700 And I knew how to call the fixture. 340 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:28,080 If I got locked up two or three times, that means I got let loose maybe a 341 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,080 hundred times. 342 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:35,260 They call it the fixture. I like the unofficial guy that something he done or 343 00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:38,740 security thing, there's a problem, we'll talk to Dennis, he'll fix it. 344 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,320 And there was a little fender bender with Emmett. Two different news crews 345 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 showed up because it's the Cowboys. 346 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,440 It turns into something else. 347 00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:50,590 There was this one night, I wasn't drunk, but I had a few. 348 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:56,410 And I see this cop car come from behind, then gets in front of me, turn left, 349 00:23:56,590 --> 00:23:58,170 puts his blanket on the turn left. 350 00:23:58,530 --> 00:24:02,430 I make a right turn, he makes a right turn, goes right by in front of my 351 00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:06,450 Dude, you just got escorted home by the cop. 352 00:24:06,670 --> 00:24:08,070 And it just was crazy. 353 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:13,250 Star. 354 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,330 I mean, you can do nothing wrong. 355 00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:18,370 I mean, you can do nothing wrong. 356 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:30,330 So you got to tell me, it doesn't seem like people like talking about it, but 357 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:32,610 what was your relationship with the White House? 358 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:37,110 If I explain my relationship to it, then I'm going to incriminate myself on it. 359 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:42,310 Eric, 360 00:24:42,910 --> 00:24:45,550 for my audience, what's the White House? 361 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,920 You know what? I didn't visit. 362 00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:50,440 The White House is, you know. 363 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600 But why? Why can't you talk about it? 364 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,040 Uh -uh. 365 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,880 No, man. 366 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:58,360 No. 367 00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:00,460 Bro, you're not going to get it. 368 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,680 All right, who created the White House? 369 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,160 Well, I think you have to ask the players who owned it. 370 00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:07,940 I didn't own the White House. 371 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,640 Okay, okay. 372 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,960 I'll get into some stories for you. 373 00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:20,400 So I was the president of the White House. 374 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,280 We were like, man, we got a lot of money on hotels with all of these women. 375 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,000 So then we could, you know, do a house. 376 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,700 I know it was across from the facility. 377 00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:35,260 It was behind Valley Ranch, where we practiced at. 378 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,680 Those guys live on the edge. 379 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Hell, they're supposed to be adult men, married, most of them. 380 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,780 You know, really, it was none of our business. They're adults. 381 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:51,060 We had five rooms, and it was whatever you like, you could mingle with your 382 00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:52,060 liking. 383 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:56,780 You know, in that room, you may be smoking weed. This room, you may be 384 00:25:56,780 --> 00:25:57,880 exercise, whatever. 385 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:04,260 You know, it's a group of girls in each room, and you just kind of bounce from 386 00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:05,260 room to room. 387 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:11,930 I would go in and just kind of make sure everything was stocked, make sure 388 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:12,930 everything's kind of cleaned up. 389 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:17,830 One time, as I walk in, there's two players on the couch. 390 00:26:18,190 --> 00:26:21,370 There's a girl there. They got their own video cameras. I looked at them. They 391 00:26:21,370 --> 00:26:24,030 looked at me, and I was like, what are you doing? I'm going to drop off the 392 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:26,030 flicker. She said, well, drop it off. And I'm like, well, what are you doing? 393 00:26:27,530 --> 00:26:29,230 They're all having sex on the couch. 394 00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:32,090 And she was very flexible. 395 00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:37,770 That was you trying to give us a safe place for camaraderie. You know what I'm 396 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:40,080 saying? They fly in warm start. 397 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,080 Lisa Ann came in, and she would put on shows at the house. 398 00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:48,480 And then we had landlines back then. And they got all these crazy messages like, 399 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,540 Hey, Michael, this is Courtney. 400 00:26:50,740 --> 00:26:52,460 I was calling to see what happened to you that day. 401 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:55,500 Hi, Michael, this is Amber. I was calling to say hi. 402 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,680 We no longer needed to go hunting. 403 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,320 They came. 404 00:27:00,980 --> 00:27:02,940 Michael, I understand you've been with my sister. 405 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,760 I would like to talk to you. 406 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,020 Win the game and win the park. 407 00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:10,720 That's the way Barry coached because that's what he did. 408 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:16,440 Is there an extra sense of satisfaction for you to have made this incredible 409 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,380 change and to have a team doing so well? Is there a part of you that says, I 410 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:22,380 told you so? 411 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:25,120 It's almost going to be a disappointment to a lot of our fans. 412 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:34,360 After we had won 413 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,700 two Super Bowls, I was sitting there. 414 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,960 searching, hungry, waking up in the middle of the night. 415 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:49,080 How can I reach this intangible value 416 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,200 that is out here throughout our sport? 417 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:59,720 Well, I open my eyes and I get a call from Rupert Murdoch. 418 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Football. 419 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,880 It's what's valuable to television. 420 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,060 When I came to America, I didn't know anything about the game. 421 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,280 But, you know, if you live here and you start watching a few games, you get 422 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,280 involved. 423 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Forbes magazine estimates his fortune to be worth $4 billion. 424 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,720 Of course, he didn't get there without making a few enemies. 425 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:30,840 After all, look what Murdoch had done to the New York Post. 426 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,820 He'd taken it beyond splashy to trashy. 427 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:38,040 He is also the chairman and CEO of Fox Broadcasting. 428 00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:44,760 The big stations were NBC, ABC, and CBS. 429 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,420 Fox was the upstart. 430 00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:53,840 At first we had a smaller footprint, stations in just a few major media 431 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,400 but we needed a new plan. 432 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,680 I don't think you're a network until you have NFL. 433 00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:02,960 For 25 years, CBS. 434 00:29:03,820 --> 00:29:08,760 had absolutely been a leader in presenting our games. 435 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,920 But behind the scenes, the profits for television have melted away. Rising 436 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,900 broadcast fees have cost CBS $100 million over the last year. 437 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,800 CBS was losing money on their NFL games, and because they had such a long 438 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,740 history with the NFL, some of the owners were willing to take less. 439 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:32,040 Not only was I against it, I worked. 440 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,460 I felt death, forget, vote, stop it. 441 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:40,080 For me, CBS didn't understand the value of the NFL. 442 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:45,080 There's indirect value to having something like the NFL. 443 00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:51,100 It's a soap opera every week, and it has a tremendous lift to a network. 444 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Years before, I had owned a significant interest in a TV affiliate in Little 445 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,920 Rock, Arkansas. 446 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:04,080 When the reruns of I Love Lucy came out, that rerun was outrageously expensive. 447 00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:05,780 It's so tasty, too. 448 00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:09,020 And one station bought I Love Lucy reruns. 449 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:10,800 I called and said, why? 450 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:13,860 And they said, it's a lost leader. 451 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,380 I put it on right before the news. 452 00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:18,460 The audience stays on for the news. 453 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,300 I sell later ads. 454 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,780 I wish it was this easy to get money out of Ricky. 455 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:28,260 I realized the NFL should not be something that our networks. 456 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,120 make money off of, we should cost more than that and be a loss later. 457 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,540 Jerry Jones and I together are risk takers. 458 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,380 We're very optimistic about where we're going with our new television agreement 459 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:43,800 that we're negotiating right now. 460 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520 We know that we're the best product there is in sports. 461 00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:50,180 And so all of this, I think, is going to bode well for the NFL. 462 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:56,640 The owners really didn't know who Fox was. It really wasn't a network. 463 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:58,200 The NFL was saying, 464 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:03,870 You are only in 60 % of the country, and no one will be able to see us. 465 00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:08,750 Young people watch Fox programming, and that seems to appeal to the advertisers. 466 00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:14,070 I think everybody assumed Fox couldn't put together the kind of production the 467 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:15,070 NFL needed. 468 00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:18,830 They had developed quite the reputation. 469 00:31:19,270 --> 00:31:22,970 They had anti -family attitude, the stereotypes of poor people. 470 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:27,370 You just wanted to keep the dignity. 471 00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:28,950 Of the league. 472 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:30,490 Eat my shorts. 473 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:31,710 Eat your shorts! 474 00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:37,130 And I told him, I said, Mr. Murdoch, there was concern, but if we don't take 475 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:40,850 biggest offer, I will raise more hell than you can count. 476 00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:42,350 I'll assure you of that. 477 00:31:42,550 --> 00:31:45,750 We really needed him, so it had to be a knockout bid. 478 00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:52,350 Mr. Murdoch opened his mouth, and the words $1 .6 479 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:56,850 billion came out. 480 00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:59,710 Sundays will never be the same. 481 00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:03,830 CBS has been bringing professional football into American living rooms for 482 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:05,170 nearly four decades. 483 00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:09,250 And that will come to an end. We put on such a big bid that we blocked him away 484 00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:12,710 from the table. But that was a one and a half billion dollar gamble. 485 00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:16,990 It was a bold move, not just for Fox, but for the NFL. 486 00:32:17,230 --> 00:32:20,290 And Jerry was a big part of that. The owners of the National Football League 487 00:32:20,290 --> 00:32:22,550 have spent the day trying to control one of their own. 488 00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:26,880 Fox viewed the NFL as a program that could build their network. 489 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,240 By the time we get football, we would be in 95 % of the country. 490 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,560 Fox is the new kid on the block, and they have a lot of energy. 491 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:36,600 But you can't beat Madden. 492 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,100 Just to prove what we're serious, we then hired John Madden with CBS. 493 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,600 When you look at the monetary commitment that they made to the NFL, I think that 494 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,880 shows. But apparently, the best is still yet to come. The pregame show. 495 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,100 was absolutely key. I had an idea in my head of what I wanted. 496 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,300 An expert in offense, I wanted an expert in defense, and I wanted a coach. 497 00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:08,820 Since I left coaching, I haven't missed that grind at all. Who needs it? Now 498 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:13,180 there's just me, a bucket of beer, and the beach. 499 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,180 Now every new show, you gotta have a little talent. 500 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,680 I'm gonna make sure I get along with this boss. 501 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,660 Jimmy Johnson, ex -coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Coach, we're thrilled to have 502 00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:27,900 you. Which means fans in Dallas will hear what their old coach, Jimmy 503 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:29,220 has to say on a weekly basis. 504 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:30,580 Have you thought about Dallas? 505 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:34,740 You haven't been following football, have you? Barry Switzer says he expects 506 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:38,940 Johnson to criticize him throughout the season. I'll do whatever I have to do to 507 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:40,160 be the very best in the business. 508 00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:42,760 At this point, I don't see the improvement. 509 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,080 It took me five years to put together that football team. Time will tell for 510 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,080 Barry Switzer. 511 00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:59,230 A sellout crowd at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Arizona. It's the world champion, 512 00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:05,350 the Dallas Cowboys, to face the Arizona Cardinals on a warm day, 86 degrees. 513 00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:08,590 Well, I'll start by the game in Arizona. 514 00:34:09,130 --> 00:34:14,790 Anytime you play the Arizona Cardinals, I don't care what their record is. It's 515 00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:19,670 just something about playing those guys that will put wear and tear on your 516 00:34:19,670 --> 00:34:21,290 body. Just a physical team. 517 00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:37,370 And I just remember being so tired after that game. I think I took a couple of 518 00:34:37,370 --> 00:34:43,870 Vicodin. We went from the airport to the Iguana 519 00:34:43,870 --> 00:34:49,469 Mirage. I was at the bar with a couple guys, and I had a couple drinks. 520 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,820 We had a good time at Aragon. 521 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,980 And I think we were all planning on going to Eric's house. 522 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,480 I told Eric that he needed to ride with me. 523 00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:03,740 And he didn't. 524 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,280 And I come, I said, where did he be? 525 00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:08,940 He said, he's gone. I said, oh, shh. 526 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,780 As I'm driving, I was talking to my oldest son's mother on the phone. 527 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:18,620 And I dropped the phone. 528 00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:24,050 I go to pick the phone up, and the curve is on me. 529 00:35:25,950 --> 00:35:30,550 And I just put my hands up and said, I'm dead. 530 00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:42,030 Coming around the bend, Big E is in the wall. 531 00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:47,610 I'm running to the car, and I see Eric still in the car. 532 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160 I stopped. 533 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,000 My legs went numb. 534 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,400 I mean, shaking. 535 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:57,460 He was in bad shape. 536 00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:59,580 I thought we lost him. 537 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:03,660 The ass was in his head. Blood in his face and everything. 538 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,420 I started to say, Eric, Eric, Eric. 539 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,760 And he didn't say anything. 540 00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:13,380 I started to say, big fella, big fella, get up. 541 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,138 Get up. 542 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:16,620 Get up. Get up. 543 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:23,000 All I remember is my face hitting the windshield. 544 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:25,860 It was an unbearable pain. 545 00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,880 My face was very hot. 546 00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:34,920 And then my knee, the pain in my knee that I felt was just indescribable. 547 00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:38,980 They were saying, you got to keep him up. You can't let him go out. If he goes 548 00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:42,820 out, I was holding his head and we were trying to get him to the hospital. 549 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,420 You know, so I was just trying to keep him up the whole ride. 550 00:36:49,420 --> 00:36:53,960 All -pro offensive tackle Eric Williams suffered a broken rib, multiple facial 551 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600 lacerations, torn ligaments in his left thumb and right knee. 552 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,220 His coach got the news this morning. 553 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,500 Hopefully a wake -up call for him. 554 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,880 Didn't look very good. 555 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,560 Looked like he'd gotten a razor fight without a razor. 556 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,120 Switzer says it's likely Williams will miss the rest of the season. 557 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:12,200 You lose a good player, you become average in a hurry. 558 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,300 Biggie, that's all for that offensive line. 559 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,080 He was our invincible man. He was the dead guy. 560 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,740 Just a different whip without him. 561 00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:33,120 To me, Eric Williams, who was lost to the Cowboys for the season, was the best 562 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,920 offensive lineman in all of football. I was going to say, he's a great one. 563 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,000 As the regular season continued, I could tell that we were slipping in some 564 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,080 areas that we had not at prior times. 565 00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:48,890 Now, I'm not saying they're not a good football team, but they no longer appear 566 00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:49,890 invincible. 567 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:54,570 Nobody knew if Barry Switzer could take this team and do something no one had 568 00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:58,010 ever done, which would be to win three straight Super Bowls. With the Dallas 569 00:37:58,010 --> 00:38:02,270 Cowboys, as talented as they are, it's really the Super Bowl for that. 570 00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:07,630 But we just weren't as focused on football as we could be. They lost the 571 00:38:07,630 --> 00:38:09,430 right tackle when they lost Derrick Williams. 572 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:14,270 That's a sizable hole. That was always the challenge after Jimmy left. 573 00:38:15,530 --> 00:38:18,770 You know, I wonder, Jimmy, if maybe you wouldn't want to go back down to Dallas. 574 00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:19,810 What do you do? Buy the team? 575 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:24,730 They're probably happy that I'm here because if I was back in Dallas, I'd 576 00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:26,450 be grinding. I'd still be working. 577 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:33,850 The end of the season, we went four and three, and that's not how you get to a 578 00:38:33,850 --> 00:38:34,850 Super Bowl. 579 00:38:35,970 --> 00:38:37,870 This is where Barry Switzer is going to be judged. 580 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:39,450 Can you get back? 581 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:42,050 Can you three -peat? Can you win another Super Bowl? 582 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:44,860 Systems haven't changed. 583 00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:47,400 Head coach may be different. 584 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,740 We know what to do. 585 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:58,420 We just got to go do it. 586 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,120 So 587 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:10,480 who's 588 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,399 going to beat him? 589 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,720 Who? That was the story. Who was going to stop the Cowboys? 590 00:39:13,940 --> 00:39:14,940 No one. 591 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,340 If you talk to the NFL about the field, they say it's in absolutely great shape. 592 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,580 When you talk to the players, they say it's worse than it was two years ago. 593 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,180 They're going to have a lot of problems. 594 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,800 It is the game and the two teams most people predicted would be playing for 595 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,800 NFC Championship. 596 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:36,720 Fox expects you to have 85 million watching this game, more people than 597 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,380 watched any show in Fox's history. 598 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:45,380 Cowboys have won three of the last four in the series, the last two to go to the 599 00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:46,319 Super Bowl. 600 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,420 San Francisco has desperately been trying to find a way to get over the 601 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:55,300 After losing to the Cowboys in 93, Eddie DiBarlo and I were walking alone. 602 00:39:56,500 --> 00:40:00,960 And he looked at me and he said, can't let this happen again. 603 00:40:02,380 --> 00:40:06,640 The beach area and the Cowboys, we built the team around our defense. 604 00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:09,780 The thought that we can inflict. 605 00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:12,550 harm on Jerry and the Cowboys. 606 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:16,350 It just made it so enticing, and especially with Dion. 607 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:27,050 Ladies and gentlemen, Dion Sanders. 608 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:30,270 Dion posed a problem. 609 00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:32,770 One, two, sit down. 610 00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:37,930 He's the man, he's the man. One of the greatest actors in our time, prime time. 611 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:39,730 Pay the call to be the boss. 612 00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:42,550 Prime time. Prime time. Prime time. Prime time. 613 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:46,270 Make sure the license plates say prime time. 614 00:40:46,510 --> 00:40:47,488 Ho, ho, ho. 615 00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:51,630 Look at me. This dude was a true rock star. 616 00:40:52,090 --> 00:40:53,009 Prime time. 617 00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:57,630 In one year, play baseball, play football. 618 00:40:58,770 --> 00:41:02,390 Who was doing that back in the day? Nobody but Prime. 619 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:06,230 Leon was kind of like the whole package. 620 00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:07,530 Better. 621 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:08,730 Stronger. 622 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,200 He was as good as it got as a lockdown corner. 623 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,160 And a guy who would get you a lot of publicity. 624 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,600 And win you a lot of games. 625 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,160 That wasn't it. 626 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,200 It. Yeah, that's what I was. 627 00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:30,040 You know what it is. 628 00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:31,940 It is it. 629 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:35,080 It is that one ingredient that gives you the flavor, that gives you the taste, 630 00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,480 that gives you the understanding, the wisdom. 631 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,780 It's the purpose. That was the it. 632 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:43,180 What made him so good? His athletic ability. 633 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:46,560 No. He was a student of the game. 634 00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:49,060 He knew splits. 635 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:50,940 He knew formations. 636 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,680 He knew concepts. 637 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,800 And he knew them well. 638 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,100 Deion was an impact player. 639 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,320 He could score from punt returns and kickoff returns. 640 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,860 He could score as a receiver. 641 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:13,020 Frankly, he created such an imbalance on defense because teams would go away 642 00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:14,020 from him. 643 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120 A real lockdown corner. 644 00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:20,760 You don't want to play around with that. 645 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,820 The way I changed the game is that you were concerned about me. I wasn't 646 00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:27,380 concerned about you because I run like a Lamborghini. 647 00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:32,770 I put pressure on people. Pressure ain't on me. Pressure's on them. Because you 648 00:42:32,770 --> 00:42:33,770 prepare and you study. 649 00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:36,310 He single -handedly can turn a ballgame around. 650 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:41,730 When he would go up against Michael Irvin or anybody, I mean, that was 651 00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:44,110 kind of like, that's Milo Armando, baby. 652 00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:46,630 That's Alpha Dog versus Alpha Dog. 653 00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:49,290 And the pass intended for Michael Irvin. 654 00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:50,950 And it's a fumble. 655 00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:53,510 I've had many battles with Deion. 656 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,580 You know, I played him freshman year at Miami. 657 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,500 You know, I ran an out and up on Dion. I had him beat. 658 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,900 That ball came, and I looked back, and this dude was out running the football. 659 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,760 Pushed me down, jumped up, intercepted the ball, and was running the other way. 660 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,460 I've not seen anything like it. 661 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:20,620 That 94 game. 662 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,360 I knew it was going to be the battle. 663 00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:34,320 When we played the Cowboys, 664 00:43:36,980 --> 00:43:40,960 they called it the NFC Championship, but we all knew it was the Super Bowl. 665 00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:46,360 Whoever's next, get that. This is it. This is the one. And remember last year 666 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,640 they had a fight? Well, this year they had another fight. 667 00:43:48,940 --> 00:43:51,140 You try to be professional, but... 668 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,260 They took so much away from us. 669 00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:57,300 This time, we were going to send a statement. 670 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,640 Whether it gets in a fight on the street, on the field, we're rolling out 671 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,240 whatever we can throw at you. 672 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,040 It's just us and you. 673 00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:11,060 One reporter said, what happens if you don't win? 674 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,900 I had a samurai sword in my desk, and I pointed to the samurai sword, and I 675 00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,860 says, I'll have to do the honorable thing. 676 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,540 Kickoff for San Francisco. 677 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,000 The winner of this game goes to the Super Bowl. 678 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,000 Sanders with Harper. 679 00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:34,460 And Aikman back to throw. 680 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,680 Protection good. 681 00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:43,580 Incomplete. We wanted to disrupt their rhythm. We changed it up quite a bit. 682 00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:44,580 it was very strategic. 683 00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:48,920 If they're going to stay away from Deion, they're going to have to go to 684 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,280 Irvin with some kind of double coverage. 685 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,320 Intercepted by Eric Davis. 686 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,540 And Davis will score for the 49ers. 687 00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:05,620 I think Deion Sanders on Harper has thrown it for a loop. Troy Aikman didn't 688 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:09,000 read it, threw it right to him. I think it's going to take a while for the 689 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,040 Cowboys to adjust. 690 00:45:19,330 --> 00:45:22,130 When they made the mistakes, capitalize. 691 00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:23,730 You have to make them pay. 692 00:45:29,310 --> 00:45:35,770 And the defending world champion 693 00:45:35,770 --> 00:45:37,890 Cowboys have to be in shock. 694 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:41,200 Kevin with his third kickoff return of the day. 695 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:45,640 He needs something to happen against the ball that's loose. 696 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120 And again, San Francisco recovers. 697 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,400 I was always taught to go for the throat, and basically that's what we 698 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,300 do. Second and goal with the one. 699 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,880 Good. 700 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:03,420 Touchdown San Francisco on the 49ers lead. 701 00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:06,020 Three Dallas Cowboys turnovers. 702 00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:08,360 Three 49er touchdowns. 703 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,240 Seven minutes and 33 seconds left in the first quarter. 704 00:46:13,540 --> 00:46:17,980 The way we played, my God, just gifts. They were gifts. 705 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,040 It's like a horror movie I'm watching. 706 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,360 First time in NFC Championship history that a team has scored three touchdowns 707 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,660 in the first quarter. In history. 708 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,940 It was unimaginable, quite honestly. 709 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:33,460 America had only seen the Cowboys win. 710 00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:36,650 All of a sudden, it's the first time that they had seen us with our backs 711 00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:37,650 against the wall. 712 00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:41,850 San Francisco put them up. It's humongous for the momentum and for the 713 00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:43,150 psychological feeling of these teams. 714 00:46:43,590 --> 00:46:48,730 Getting down three touchdowns in five minutes, it brought my world out. It 715 00:46:48,730 --> 00:46:51,390 brought me crashing. It brought me to reality. 716 00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:57,130 And I thought, quit thinking you're a chosen one or you've got some kind of 717 00:46:57,130 --> 00:46:58,130 right to this stuff. 718 00:46:58,730 --> 00:47:02,250 It's just like walking out there during third days when you were a Razorback. 719 00:47:02,980 --> 00:47:04,360 It's supposed to be hard. 720 00:47:05,860 --> 00:47:09,140 I feel like we was just holding on to dear life. 721 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,360 I think people were looking around, trying to find out, okay, who's going to 722 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,920 that leader that Jimmy was? 723 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,000 Get over this piece. 724 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160 Jimmy's no longer here, and he's not coming back. 725 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,440 We are the last of the Mohicans. 726 00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:30,880 Barry coming in and leading this team, but we were here from the beginning. 727 00:47:32,279 --> 00:47:35,320 No one can stake claim to that but us. 728 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,480 And therefore, this is incumbent upon us to take it upon our shoulders and not 729 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,680 to allow anything get in here and break this up. 730 00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:48,440 No matter who the coach is, we got to get back to that game. We got to prove 731 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,440 that we can do it. 732 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,220 I remember thinking, don't forget who we're playing. 733 00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:55,120 We're playing Aikman and the boys. 734 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:58,720 It's not supposed to be this easy. 735 00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:00,420 That means we're in trouble. 736 00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:06,200 You know the great thing about being down 21 to nothing, first five minutes 737 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,800 the ballgame, you got 55 minutes to get back in this son of a bitch. 738 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,180 This Cowboy team are still the world champion. 739 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,240 They're not going to give up that throne without a fight. 740 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:21,780 When you're down 21 to nothing, you're going to have to pass the ball more than 741 00:48:21,780 --> 00:48:23,460 you came into the game thinking. 742 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,420 Being in that huddle and Troy looked up at me and said, hey, I'm coming to you. 743 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:31,060 No matter what. 744 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:37,820 That means double teams, Deion Sanders, we don't care. We are throwing the ball 745 00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:39,920 because it's 21 -0. 746 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:41,380 Third and 23. 747 00:48:46,460 --> 00:48:49,120 Mike Gordon, touchdown, Dallas. 748 00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:50,740 We have the game. 749 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,100 We have the game. 750 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,460 Steve Young fires in. Almost a touchdown. This game was going to. 751 00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:59,860 Go the distance no matter what. 752 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,900 It's going to be a shootout. 753 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,160 We're up 1 -1 to 14. 754 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:08,500 We're back in it. 755 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,600 When there's so much at stake, you are going to have to fight for everything. 756 00:49:25,530 --> 00:49:28,230 We mounted that comeback with everything in us. 757 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:34,950 Everybody on the sidelines said, keep fighting. 758 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:39,910 Nobody quit. 759 00:49:40,510 --> 00:49:42,790 The heart of the game came out. 760 00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:50,870 Now we could apply pressure on them to test what they were all about. 761 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:56,730 quarterbacks, when you get that big hit on, they start looking for that. 762 00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:59,990 Young gets into the end zone. 763 00:50:00,370 --> 00:50:04,810 Touchdown, Steve Young. The Cowboys and us were at it. 764 00:50:05,530 --> 00:50:07,110 It felt like there was no one else around. 765 00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:09,430 Here's Aikman going deep. 766 00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:15,970 And Sanders intercepts. He is so fast, he can catch up with him and pass him. 767 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:17,810 What did your mama say when you was a child? 768 00:50:18,310 --> 00:50:19,750 Don't touch that up in this high. 769 00:50:20,090 --> 00:50:22,270 That's why Deion Sanders is Deion Sanders. 770 00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:23,790 Then you mess around and found out. 771 00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:30,210 And boy, did Troy Aikman hang in there. This is a guy who won't say no. 772 00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:31,510 There was no quit. 773 00:50:32,090 --> 00:50:33,470 I mean, we kept fighting. 774 00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:36,950 Back up, 775 00:50:39,090 --> 00:50:40,390 please. Back up. 776 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:45,970 We showed America why we were champions. 777 00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:58,890 It's over six minutes left. 778 00:50:59,810 --> 00:51:01,550 And we got the ball back. 779 00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:04,770 If we score here, we only down three. 780 00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:06,730 A whole different game. 781 00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:14,090 What made Michael so great is that when the ball was in the air, it was his 782 00:51:14,090 --> 00:51:15,090 ball. 783 00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:19,840 And so I didn't have a doubt as soon as I got the ball. That's where I was 784 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,840 going. 785 00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:29,880 I knew they were going to take a shot. 786 00:51:31,060 --> 00:51:36,380 Instead of just running and looking up, I slipped because the field was 787 00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:37,380 horrible. 788 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,900 But, you know, I got that Lamborghini in me, so I hit it. 789 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:58,190 I looked up, and there was no flag thrown. 790 00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:59,430 I was like, what? 791 00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:07,550 He always 792 00:52:07,550 --> 00:52:13,850 feels like that should have been a penalty because he's Mike Irvin, but he 793 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:14,850 forgot I was proud. 794 00:52:16,690 --> 00:52:20,250 In today's game, pass interference. 795 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,300 All day, every day. 796 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,180 There's a flag on the play on the far side of the field. I think Barry Switzer 797 00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:27,420 might have run into the referee. 798 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,020 It happened right in front of me. 799 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,580 And the official comes up. 800 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,500 I've stuck my hand out with my hand. He stepped into my damn arm. I had my hand 801 00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:40,340 across his chest. I had a 15 -yard penalty because I touched the official. 802 00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:43,540 Holy moly, I've never seen a coach like that. 803 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,680 4th and 10. 804 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,640 And 8th and a snap. 805 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,360 That may be the Super Bowl play. 806 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,800 That might be. 807 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,640 Not a first down. 808 00:52:57,220 --> 00:53:03,740 Not a first down. It was a tough, tough game 809 00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:05,860 and a hard one to lose. 810 00:53:06,460 --> 00:53:10,620 The Cowboys have given us a lot of great games and have been great champions. 811 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,700 But three in a row won't happen. 812 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,160 The team that I hated with every ounce of my body had just beat us. 813 00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:24,640 And I didn't think that they could beat us. And that love that I had for the 814 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,640 game left. 815 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:35,340 I just felt as though if I would have been in that game, you know, we would 816 00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:36,340 had a shot. 817 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,380 Revenge is best on the tip of a cold knife. 818 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,380 It wasn't supposed to happen the way it did. 819 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,760 It came down to one ball game and we beat ourselves. 820 00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:57,520 But it was. 821 00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:04,700 Well, sure, it's a mistake that I gave you 15 yards. Sure. Do we win the game 822 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:05,700 that doesn't happen? 823 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,540 Yes. No. 824 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,160 I dog cussed myself all the way to the locker room. I'm so pissed off at 825 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,260 That 94 game was quite a thought provoking. 826 00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:22,420 psychological happening for me. 827 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:28,480 I remember walking out of that stadium, cried like a baby. 828 00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:31,560 That's the only time I ever cried after a game. 829 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,840 I don't have fucking peace. 830 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:38,300 And all I think about is that one play. 831 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,580 How the day goes by, I don't question myself on it. 832 00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:45,040 But I wanted the touchdown. 833 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,860 And I waited on it. 834 00:54:47,549 --> 00:54:51,630 Yeah, it's just, I'd be wondering, was I greedy? 835 00:54:52,370 --> 00:54:54,590 Did I want to be a hero? What was that? 836 00:54:56,690 --> 00:54:58,110 I just don't understand that. 837 00:55:00,470 --> 00:55:03,250 I really can't explain the way I'm feeling right now. You know, I really 838 00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:05,190 sunk in yet. We want to play in the Super Bowl. 839 00:55:05,550 --> 00:55:08,670 What made it worse was watching the Super Bowl. 840 00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:14,430 A superb performance by the San Francisco 49ers, and they are the world 841 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:15,430 champions. 842 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,300 I feel like that should have been us. 843 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,980 I cried like a baby. 844 00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:27,400 I was very fortunate to win three Super Bowls, but if not for the Cowboys, 845 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,120 maybe that could have been six. 846 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,100 I look back, I'm like, I'm so grateful for the Cowboys. 847 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,280 I learned from playing the Cowboys. 848 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,240 I learned about myself. I actually got better. 849 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,660 Whatever I became was modeled because of that. 850 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,540 And winning in 94, I think, brings that kind of full, the full truth of it. 851 00:55:53,180 --> 00:55:59,940 I think Jerry not being able to win the Super Bowl was a major speed bump 852 00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:01,420 with his master plan. 853 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,460 But only a speed bump. 854 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,320 Their championship reign is over. But what about the future for the Dallas 855 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,700 Cowboys? The composition of this team could change a bit next year. 856 00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:18,720 Are you the reason that he didn't get a free kick? 857 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,200 Yeah. 858 00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:23,140 Yeah. I'm done already. I'm the reason. 859 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,040 I'm the reason, the season, the treason, whatever you want to rhyme it with. I'm 860 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,040 a hit. 861 00:56:30,340 --> 00:56:35,320 The thing that I mostly think of, which is very telling, is... 862 00:56:35,770 --> 00:56:41,450 Not the pain of having missed an opportunity to win three Super Bowls in 863 00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:44,410 Not that pain. 864 00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:48,690 But the correction of the disappointment. 865 00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:52,510 I'll never forget. 866 00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:55,010 I was on television in an interview. 867 00:56:56,250 --> 00:57:00,550 And I looked in the camera and I just pointed in the camera and I said, I know 868 00:57:00,550 --> 00:57:01,550 you're looking. 869 00:57:01,570 --> 00:57:02,570 And I was. 870 00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:04,750 And I was watching. I was sitting in the hotel room. 871 00:57:05,230 --> 00:57:07,690 And he said, Deion Sanders, if you're out there. 872 00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:09,610 You need to be a Dallas Cowboy. 873 00:57:10,050 --> 00:57:11,050 Call my attorney. 874 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:13,630 Give me an update. What's going on? What's popping? 875 00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:15,250 He's like, we talking. 876 00:57:16,490 --> 00:57:19,030 I don't care what it takes. You get me Deion. 71726

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