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This is an ABC News
special report.
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Good afternoon, I'm
Mary Bruce.
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We're coming on the
air with the
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newest round in President
Trump's
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effort to end
the war
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in Ukraine.
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Three days after the
Alaska summit
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with Russian President
Vladimir
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Putin, which
Ukrainian
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President Zelensky
was not invited
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to, the president
moments ago
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welcoming Zelensky
to
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the White
House to
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discuss where things
stand.
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Zelensky notably dressed
formally
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well aware appearances
matter to
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Trump, who
has been
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pushing for a ceasefire
but wasn't
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able to secure
one in
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that meeting with
Putin.
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Let's listen in.
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We had very substantial
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progress in many
ways.
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We had a good meeting,
as you know,
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just a short while
ago with the
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president of
Russia.
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And I think there's
a possibility
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that something
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could come out
of it.
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And today's
meeting
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is very important.
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We have, I guess,
the seven very
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powerful leaders
from Europe.
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And we're going to
be meeting with
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them right after
this meeting.
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And thank
you very
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much for being
here.
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Thanks so much,
Mr. President.
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If I can, first of
all, thank you
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for your invitation
and thank you
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very much
for your
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efforts, personal
efforts to stop
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killings and stop
this war.
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Thank you.
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And using this opportunity,
many
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thanks to your wife,
first lady of
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the United
States.
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She sent a letter
to Putin about
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our children, abducted
children.
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And my wife, first
lady of Ukraine,
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she gave the
letter.
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It's not to you,
to your wife.
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I won't.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So we are saying
this sensitive
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topic, yes,
please.
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And thanks to our partners
and that
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you supported this
format that
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after our meeting
we can
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see leaders who are
around us, the
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UK and France, Germany,
Italy,
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Finland, the
United
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States, I mean, all
partners around
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Ukraine supporting
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us, thanks
to them.
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Thank you
very much
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for your invitation.
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Thank you very much
for being here.
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President Trump.
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Do you think it's
fair?
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Yes, Peter.
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Thank you, President
Trump.
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So President Zelensky,
you say in a
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post on X today,
Russia must end
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this war,
which it
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itself started.
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President Trump, you
say President
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Zelensky of Ukraine
can end the war
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with Russia
almost
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immediately if he
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wants to,
which is.
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Yeah, I think
that's true.
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I think we're
going
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to have a
meeting.
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I think everything
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works out well
today.
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We'll have a
trilad.
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And I think there
will be a
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reasonable chance
of
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ending the war when
we do that.
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Is this the end of
the road for
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American support
for Ukraine?
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Is today's meeting
deal or no deal?
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I can never say
that it's
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never the end of
the road.
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People are being
killed
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and we want to
stop that.
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So I would
not say
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it's the end of
the road.
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No, I think we
have a
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good chance of
doing it.
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It's been almost
four years now
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that a lot of
people
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were killed last
week.
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A lot of people
last week.
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I mean, millions of
people killed,
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but a lot of
people last
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week, for whatever
reason,
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a big number, a lot
of soldiers,
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both on both
sides.
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I know the president.
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I know myself and
I believe
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Vladimir Putin
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wants to see it
ended.
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And as you have Putin
on Friday,
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today you've got
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President Zelensky
here.
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As you listen to
Russia and
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Ukraine, which
side
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has the better
cards?
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Well, I don't want
to say that.
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I'm just going to
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I'm just here
to be.
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Look, this isn't
my war.
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This is Joe Biden's
war.
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He's the one that
had a lot to do
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with this happening.
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And we want to
get it ended.
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And we want it to
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end good for
everybody.
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We want it to end
good.
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The people of
Ukraine
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have suffered
incredibly.
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Mr President, President
Zelensky,
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are you prepared
to keep
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sending Ukrainian
troops
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to their deaths for
another couple
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of years or are you
going to agree
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to redraw
the maps?
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Thank you for your
question.
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So, first of all, you
know, we live
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under each day
attacks.
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You know, that today
has been a lot
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of attacks and a
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lot of wounded
people.
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And the child was
dead, a small
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one, one, one year
and a half.
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So we need
to stop
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this war to stop
Russia.
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And we need support,
American and
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European partners.
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We will do our best
for this.
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So and I think we will
show that we
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are strong people
and we
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supported the
idea of the
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United States of personal
health.
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President Trump to
stop this war to
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make diplomatic
way
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of finishing this
war.
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And we are ready
for
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trilateral as President
said.
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This is good.
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It's not about
trilateral.
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I think this is
very good.
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Thank you.
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Mr President, if
the peace deal
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will be achieved,
are you going to
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be willing to send
American
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peacekeepers to
Ukraine?
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We're going to work
with Ukraine.
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We're going to work
with everybody.
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And we're going to
make sure that
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if this piece, the
peace is going
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to stay long
term.
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This is very long
term.
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We're not talking
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about a two year
piece.
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And then we
end up
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in this mess
again.
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We're going to make
sure that
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everything's
good.
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We'll work with
Russia.
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We're going to work
with Ukraine.
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We're going to make
sure it works.
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And I think if we can
get to peace,
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it's going
to work.
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I have no doubt
about it.
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Your team has
talked
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about security
guarantees.
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Could that involve
U.S. troops?
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Would you
roll that
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out in the
future?
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We'll let
you know
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that maybe later
today.
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We're meeting with
seven great
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leaders of great
countries also.
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And we'll be talking
about that.
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They'll all be
involved, but
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there'll be a lot
of there'll be a
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lot of help when
it comes
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to security.
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There's going to be
a lot of help.
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It's going to
be good.
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They are first line
of defense
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because they're
there.
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They're Europe.
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But we're
going to
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help them
out also.
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We'll be involved.
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President Trump,
Mr. President,
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Vladimir Putin mentioned
that the
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war will not end
without
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addressing
the root
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causes of
this war.
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Do you have you
had an
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understanding what
are the root
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causes of
this war?
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Well, look, the
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war is going
to end.
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When it ends, I can't
tell you, but
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the war is going
to end.
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This gentleman wants
it to end and
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Vladimir Putin wants
it to end.
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I think the whole
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world is tired
of it.
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And we're going to
get it ended.
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It was, you know,
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I've done
six wars.
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I've ended six wars
and I thought
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this maybe would
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be the easiest
one.
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And it's not the
easiest one.
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It's a tough one.
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A lot of reasons
for it.
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And they'll be talking
about it for
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a long time, but they'll
be talking
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about the others.
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Look, India, Pakistan,
we're
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talking about the
big places.
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When you look at
you just take a
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look at some of these
wars, you go
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to Africa and
take a
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look at that.
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Rwanda and the
Congo,
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Republic of the
Congo.
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That's been going
on for 31 years.
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And so we've done
a total of six
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and we really
have six not
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including
the fact
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that we obliterated
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and it turned
out to
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be a total obliteration.
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The nuclear in, as
you said, the
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nuclear, the future
nuclear
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capability
of Iran.
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And this one, I think
we're going
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to get solved
also.
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I think I feel confident
we're
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going to get it
solved.
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Thank you, Mr.
President.
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Can you tell us
about your
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conversations with
European leaders
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and what they
need to see
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to support and enter
the war?
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Well, we're going
to be meeting
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with a great representative
group
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and seven very
powerful,
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very big countries
and great
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people, all friends
of mine and
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friends of yours.
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And we're going
to have some
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suggestions made.
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They want to see
peace.
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01:07:47,041 --> 01:07:48,000
They would like
to see peace.
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President Trump, President
Trump,
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01:07:49,833 --> 01:07:51,958
who did Russia,
who did
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01:07:52,041 --> 01:07:52,916
Russia, who did
Russia last
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01:07:53,083 --> 01:07:53,458
night?
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President Trump, do
you think it's
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fair for Ukraine and for Russia
to have a good relationship
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01:07:59,125 --> 01:08:00,416
with Ukraine and
for Russia to
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01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:01,875
achieve a lasting
and
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01:08:01,958 --> 01:08:04,291
durable peace if
Ukraine sees
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01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:05,666
its territories
that
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01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:07,625
Russia hasn't yet
conquered?
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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:08,666
Do you think
it's a
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01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:09,833
fair peace for
Ukraine?
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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:11,625
We're going to have
a lasting
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01:08:11,708 --> 01:08:13,083
peace, just to answer
the first
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01:08:13,166 --> 01:08:13,958
part of your
question.
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01:08:14,041 --> 01:08:14,250
We're going to
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01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:15,458
have a lasting
peace.
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01:08:16,625 --> 01:08:17,208
I hope it's going
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01:08:17,291 --> 01:08:17,916
to be immediately.
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01:08:18,583 --> 01:08:20,083
I hope it doesn't
have to go on.
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And I think people
in the whole
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01:08:22,708 --> 01:08:23,833
world is going to
be very happy
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01:08:23,916 --> 01:08:24,666
when that's
announced.
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01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:27,750
Mr. President, you
posted on social
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01:08:27,833 --> 01:08:29,541
media, Mr. President,
a very
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01:08:29,625 --> 01:08:30,916
touching letter
from
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01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,541
the First Lady and
the letter was
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01:08:32,625 --> 01:08:34,875
hand-delivered to
President Putin.
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01:08:35,708 --> 01:08:37,333
And it calls for an
end to the war,
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01:08:37,416 --> 01:08:38,875
essentially, because
of the
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01:08:38,958 --> 01:08:40,083
children and the
children's
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01:08:40,166 --> 01:08:40,416
future.
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01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:43,208
Why did the First
Lady feel that
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01:08:43,291 --> 01:08:44,458
letter was necessary?
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01:08:44,666 --> 01:08:46,250
Was it because she
believed that
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01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:47,750
Mr. Putin is the
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01:08:47,833 --> 01:08:48,833
aggressor in the
war?
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01:08:49,083 --> 01:08:50,458
Is a similar letter
being
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01:08:50,541 --> 01:08:51,541
hand-delivered to
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01:08:51,625 --> 01:08:52,541
President
Zelensky?
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01:08:52,958 --> 01:08:53,791
So the First Lady
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01:08:53,875 --> 01:08:55,000
felt very
strongly.
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01:08:56,083 --> 01:08:58,250
She's watched the
same thing that
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01:08:58,333 --> 01:08:59,500
you watch and that
I watch.
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01:09:01,041 --> 01:09:02,708
I see things that
you don't get to
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01:09:02,791 --> 01:09:03,666
see, and it's
horrible.
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01:09:04,666 --> 01:09:06,333
But when she's got
a great love of
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01:09:06,416 --> 01:09:09,291
children, she has
a wonderful son
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01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:11,416
that she loves,
probably
325
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,333
more than anybody,
including me.
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01:09:13,416 --> 01:09:14,041
I hate to say it,
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01:09:14,125 --> 01:09:16,291
but she loves
her son.
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01:09:16,375 --> 01:09:17,125
She loves
children.
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01:09:17,958 --> 01:09:18,916
And she hates
to see
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01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,000
something like this
happening.
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01:09:22,083 --> 01:09:23,958
And that goes for
other wars, too.
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01:09:24,041 --> 01:09:26,666
She sees the heartbreak,
the
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01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:28,416
parents, the funerals
that you see
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01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:29,333
on television,
always
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01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:30,000
funerals.
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01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:30,625
We want to see
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01:09:30,708 --> 01:09:32,541
something other
than funerals.
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01:09:32,625 --> 01:09:34,458
No, she felt
it was
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01:09:34,541 --> 01:09:35,166
a beautiful
letter.
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01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:37,250
It was very well received
by him.
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01:09:38,708 --> 01:09:40,958
And she did ask
me to say, you
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01:09:41,041 --> 01:09:42,458
know, she would
343
01:09:42,541 --> 01:09:43,583
love to see this
end.
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01:09:44,166 --> 01:09:45,208
She would love to
see it end.
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01:09:45,375 --> 01:09:47,791
And she says it very
openly, very
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01:09:47,875 --> 01:09:50,250
proudly, and with
great sorrow,
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01:09:50,333 --> 01:09:51,083
because so many
people
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01:09:51,208 --> 01:09:52,208
have been killed.
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01:09:52,291 --> 01:09:55,000
Last week, last
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01:09:55,083 --> 01:09:56,083
week, Brian, you
said...
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01:09:56,166 --> 01:09:56,958
Yes, sir.
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01:09:57,041 --> 01:09:57,166
I've got a
353
01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:58,125
question for each
of you.
354
01:09:58,208 --> 01:09:59,375
First of all, Mr.
President
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01:09:59,458 --> 01:10:00,416
Zelensky,
you look
356
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:01,750
fabulous in that
suit.
357
01:10:01,833 --> 01:10:02,916
I said the same
thing.
358
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:03,833
You look good.
359
01:10:03,916 --> 01:10:05,291
I said the same
thing.
360
01:10:05,375 --> 01:10:06,208
Yeah, let's
get on.
361
01:10:06,291 --> 01:10:06,833
I said the
one that
362
01:10:06,916 --> 01:10:07,833
attacked you last
time.
363
01:10:08,166 --> 01:10:09,583
I remember that.
364
01:10:09,666 --> 01:10:10,750
I apologize
to you.
365
01:10:10,833 --> 01:10:11,416
You look wonderful.
366
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:13,125
No, my first question
for you,
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01:10:13,208 --> 01:10:13,916
President
Zelensky.
368
01:10:14,333 --> 01:10:15,416
In the same suit.
369
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:19,041
You see, I changed
you.
370
01:10:19,125 --> 01:10:19,166
Maybe yours is
better.
371
01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:21,083
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Maybe yours is better.
372
01:10:21,625 --> 01:10:21,833
Yes, sir.
373
01:10:22,375 --> 01:10:24,416
Real quickly, upon
peace, God
374
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:25,916
willing we get peace,
are you open
375
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,083
to holding an
election
376
01:10:27,166 --> 01:10:27,875
in your country?
377
01:10:29,041 --> 01:10:29,583
Yes, of course.
378
01:10:29,875 --> 01:10:31,125
We are open for
election, yes.
379
01:10:31,541 --> 01:10:32,708
We have to do
380
01:10:32,791 --> 01:10:33,958
safety in circumstances.
381
01:10:34,875 --> 01:10:37,416
And a little bit,
we need to work
382
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:39,250
in the parliament
because during
383
01:10:39,333 --> 01:10:40,791
the war you can't
have elections,
384
01:10:40,875 --> 01:10:43,708
but we can do
security.
385
01:10:44,416 --> 01:10:45,833
We need, maybe,
how to
386
01:10:45,916 --> 01:10:47,000
say it, we need
a truth.
387
01:10:47,541 --> 01:10:47,750
Yes.
388
01:10:48,166 --> 01:10:48,791
We have to work everywhere,
the
389
01:10:48,875 --> 01:10:50,458
battlefield in the
sky and the sea,
390
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,958
yes, to make
possible
391
01:10:52,041 --> 01:10:56,416
for people to do democratic,
open,
392
01:10:57,208 --> 01:10:58,500
legal, legal
elections.
393
01:10:58,875 --> 01:11:01,125
So you say during
the war
394
01:11:01,208 --> 01:11:02,250
you can't have
elections.
395
01:11:02,875 --> 01:11:04,125
So let me just say,
three and a
396
01:11:04,208 --> 01:11:05,666
half years from
now.
397
01:11:06,125 --> 01:11:08,250
So you mean if we happen
to be in a
398
01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:09,125
war with somebody,
399
01:11:10,083 --> 01:11:11,125
no more elections.
400
01:11:11,708 --> 01:11:12,250
Oh, I'm scared.
401
01:11:13,625 --> 01:11:14,458
I wonder what the fake
election is.
402
01:11:14,541 --> 01:11:15,125
You like this
idea.
403
01:11:15,208 --> 01:11:18,291
Speaking of news,
I've got a
404
01:11:18,375 --> 01:11:19,000
question for you.
405
01:11:19,083 --> 01:11:19,833
This sounds
insane
406
01:11:19,916 --> 01:11:21,500
for me even to
ask this.
407
01:11:21,916 --> 01:11:23,250
But do you think the
American media
408
01:11:23,333 --> 01:11:24,958
really doesn't even
want a peace
409
01:11:25,041 --> 01:11:25,958
deal because
they've
410
01:11:26,041 --> 01:11:27,333
seen they've been
so critical of
411
01:11:27,416 --> 01:11:29,166
you every step of
the way as you
412
01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:30,666
lead the charge
for
413
01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:31,000
peace?
414
01:11:32,708 --> 01:11:33,958
It's an amazing,
it's
415
01:11:34,041 --> 01:11:34,875
an amazing phenomenon.
416
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:37,208
I said that if in
the settlement
417
01:11:37,291 --> 01:11:39,500
you've got Moscow,
say, Petersburg
418
01:11:39,583 --> 01:11:40,750
and thousands
of miles
419
01:11:40,833 --> 01:11:41,541
around them, they
would
420
01:11:41,625 --> 01:11:42,625
say I made a bad
deal.
421
01:11:44,166 --> 01:11:48,208
The level of
hatred and
422
01:11:48,291 --> 01:11:49,958
animosity is
incredible.
423
01:11:50,041 --> 01:11:50,500
Not with all.
424
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,458
We have great people
up here.
425
01:11:52,541 --> 01:11:53,875
We also have terrible
people up
426
01:11:53,958 --> 01:11:54,583
there that
I think
427
01:11:54,666 --> 01:11:56,125
are told what
to say.
428
01:11:57,291 --> 01:11:59,708
But in solving all
of these wars,
429
01:12:00,083 --> 01:12:01,083
they don't even write
about it.
430
01:12:01,333 --> 01:12:02,458
I saw major wars.
431
01:12:02,541 --> 01:12:04,250
I saw wars that have
been going on
432
01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:07,416
for 31, 35, and 37
and a couple
433
01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:09,041
quicker ones, one
434
01:12:09,166 --> 01:12:11,666
that was going to
go into a full
435
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:12,958
blown deal very
quickly.
436
01:12:13,041 --> 01:12:13,875
You know, the one
I'm talking
437
01:12:13,958 --> 01:12:14,875
about, it was a
big one.
438
01:12:15,625 --> 01:12:16,625
But they don't
439
01:12:16,708 --> 01:12:17,541
even write about
that.
440
01:12:18,708 --> 01:12:20,250
No matter what I
do, no matter
441
01:12:20,333 --> 01:12:23,250
what, and you know,
this is not
442
01:12:23,333 --> 01:12:24,708
anything to do
with you.
443
01:12:24,791 --> 01:12:25,750
It's probably
to your
444
01:12:25,833 --> 01:12:26,916
advantage in a
certain way.
445
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,083
But no matter what
I do, no matter
446
01:12:28,166 --> 01:12:29,833
what deal I make,
from my
447
01:12:29,916 --> 01:12:31,666
standpoint, you'll
come out
448
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:32,000
good.
449
01:12:32,791 --> 01:12:33,625
Maybe President
450
01:12:33,708 --> 01:12:34,833
Putin will come
out good.
451
01:12:35,791 --> 01:12:37,250
But they'll say
Trump was
452
01:12:37,333 --> 01:12:38,583
absolutely
horrible.
453
01:12:39,291 --> 01:12:40,791
It's just that, and
I've lived with
454
01:12:40,875 --> 01:12:42,416
that for a long
time.
455
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:44,083
I've lived with
it since just
456
01:12:44,166 --> 01:12:45,375
before the first
election.
457
01:12:46,041 --> 01:12:47,375
I used to get great
publicity.
458
01:12:48,375 --> 01:12:49,708
Now I get the worst
publicity
459
01:12:49,791 --> 01:12:52,125
anyone's ever gotten
in office.
460
01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:54,458
But I won in a landslide
so that
461
01:12:54,541 --> 01:12:55,375
people understand.
462
01:12:55,458 --> 01:12:56,000
They're the only
ones
463
01:12:56,083 --> 01:12:56,958
that count ultimately.
464
01:12:57,416 --> 01:12:59,208
But I've also had
great reporters.
465
01:12:59,291 --> 01:12:59,916
I've had journalists
466
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,625
that are very
good.
467
01:13:02,166 --> 01:13:05,083
But it's very
sad when
468
01:13:05,166 --> 01:13:06,125
you do the right
thing.
469
01:13:06,208 --> 01:13:08,958
As an example, they
said because of
470
01:13:09,041 --> 01:13:11,083
the fact that Vladimir
Putin came
471
01:13:11,166 --> 01:13:12,291
to American soil,
472
01:13:12,708 --> 01:13:13,833
this was a tremendous
473
01:13:13,916 --> 01:13:15,458
defeat for Donald
Trump.
474
01:13:15,708 --> 01:13:15,916
No.
475
01:13:16,791 --> 01:13:17,500
It was really
476
01:13:17,583 --> 01:13:19,208
wonderful that he
did it.
477
01:13:19,791 --> 01:13:21,458
It was a hard thing
for him to do,
478
01:13:21,541 --> 01:13:22,500
to be honest with
you.
479
01:13:22,958 --> 01:13:23,708
It was the
opposite
480
01:13:23,791 --> 01:13:24,708
of what they
said.
481
01:13:25,375 --> 01:13:26,083
But they said it.
482
01:13:26,166 --> 01:13:27,833
Now if he didn't come,
they'd say
483
01:13:27,916 --> 01:13:29,125
that was also bad
for Trump.
484
01:13:29,208 --> 01:13:30,375
There's no way.
485
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,208
And there's just
a great
486
01:13:33,291 --> 01:13:34,500
dishonesty of the
press.
487
01:13:34,583 --> 01:13:35,208
And I think
that's why
488
01:13:35,291 --> 01:13:36,291
it's lost its
credibility.
489
01:13:36,541 --> 01:13:36,791
You know, its
490
01:13:36,875 --> 01:13:40,000
credibility is at
an all-time low.
491
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:41,250
We have a thing
going
492
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:42,916
on right now
in D.C.
493
01:13:43,166 --> 01:13:44,875
We went from the
most
494
01:13:44,958 --> 01:13:47,083
unsafe place
anywhere
495
01:13:47,166 --> 01:13:49,416
to a place that now
people, friends
496
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:50,291
are calling
me up,
497
01:13:50,666 --> 01:13:51,291
Democrats are
calling me
498
01:13:51,375 --> 01:13:52,000
up, and they're
saying,
499
01:13:52,541 --> 01:13:53,500
"Sir, I want to
thank you.
500
01:13:53,791 --> 01:13:55,791
My wife and I went
out to dinner
501
01:13:55,875 --> 01:13:56,625
last night
for the
502
01:13:56,708 --> 01:13:58,125
first time in
four years.
503
01:13:58,208 --> 01:14:02,000
And Washington,
D.C. is safe."
504
01:14:02,083 --> 01:14:03,666
And you did that
in four days.
505
01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:05,250
I'll tell you,
it's safe.
506
01:14:05,333 --> 01:14:06,000
I had another
friend
507
01:14:06,083 --> 01:14:08,125
of mine, he was
a son,
508
01:14:08,458 --> 01:14:10,000
who's a great golfer,
he's on tour.
509
01:14:10,666 --> 01:14:12,458
And he came in fourth
yesterday in
510
01:14:12,541 --> 01:14:13,000
the big tournament
511
01:14:13,083 --> 01:14:13,750
where Scotty
512
01:14:13,833 --> 01:14:15,083
Scheffler made the
great shot.
513
01:14:16,125 --> 01:14:19,166
And he said his son
is going to
514
01:14:19,250 --> 01:14:21,166
dinner in Washington,
D.C. tonight.
515
01:14:21,250 --> 01:14:22,208
I said, "Would you
have allowed
516
01:14:22,291 --> 01:14:23,833
that to happen a
year ago?"
517
01:14:23,916 --> 01:14:24,625
He said, "No way.
518
01:14:25,125 --> 01:14:25,541
No way."
519
01:14:25,625 --> 01:14:26,416
He said, "What
you've
520
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:27,125
done is incredible."
521
01:14:27,208 --> 01:14:30,166
And I think the people
realize it.
522
01:14:30,750 --> 01:14:31,416
But the press
523
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,250
says, "He's a
dictator.
524
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:34,708
He's trying to
take over."
525
01:14:35,416 --> 01:14:36,416
No, all I want is
526
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:37,500
security for our
people.
527
01:14:37,833 --> 01:14:39,375
But people that haven't
gone out to
528
01:14:39,458 --> 01:14:39,833
dinner in
529
01:14:39,916 --> 01:14:41,625
Washington, D.C.
in two years
530
01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:43,291
are going out to
531
01:14:43,375 --> 01:14:44,625
dinner, and the
restaurants,
532
01:14:44,708 --> 01:14:46,291
the last two days
were busier than
533
01:14:46,375 --> 01:14:47,916
they've been in a
long time.
534
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,625
Sir, I walked
around
535
01:14:49,708 --> 01:14:51,000
yesterday
with MTG.
536
01:14:51,166 --> 01:14:51,750
If you can walk
537
01:14:51,833 --> 01:14:53,541
around with D.C.
with MTG
538
01:14:53,625 --> 01:14:54,375
and not be
539
01:14:54,458 --> 01:14:55,125
attacked, the city
is safe.
540
01:14:55,208 --> 01:14:57,375
(cross-talk)
541
01:14:57,458 --> 01:15:00,708
Thank you, Mr.
President.
542
01:15:00,791 --> 01:15:02,791
Last week, you warned
of what you
543
01:15:02,875 --> 01:15:04,416
called severe consequences.
544
01:15:05,083 --> 01:15:07,083
If a 30-day ceasefire
or any type
545
01:15:07,166 --> 01:15:08,041
of ceasefire were
not
546
01:15:08,125 --> 01:15:09,375
agreed to by
Russia,
547
01:15:09,875 --> 01:15:11,666
will there be severe
consequences?
548
01:15:11,958 --> 01:15:13,333
Does that change because of the
meeting with the president?
549
01:15:13,416 --> 01:15:14,291
I don't think you need
a ceasefire.
550
01:15:14,666 --> 01:15:15,958
You know, if you
look at the six
551
01:15:16,041 --> 01:15:17,333
deals that I settled
this year,
552
01:15:17,416 --> 01:15:18,166
they were all
at war.
553
01:15:19,125 --> 01:15:20,166
I didn't do any
ceasefires.
554
01:15:21,041 --> 01:15:22,458
And I know
that it
555
01:15:22,541 --> 01:15:23,125
might be good
to have,
556
01:15:23,208 --> 01:15:24,958
but I can also
557
01:15:25,041 --> 01:15:26,541
understand strategically,
558
01:15:27,083 --> 01:15:28,583
like, well, you know,
one country
559
01:15:28,666 --> 01:15:29,750
or the other wouldn't
want it.
560
01:15:30,166 --> 01:15:31,625
You have a ceasefire,
and they
561
01:15:31,708 --> 01:15:33,291
rebuild and rebuild
and rebuild,
562
01:15:33,375 --> 01:15:34,291
and, you know,
maybe
563
01:15:34,375 --> 01:15:35,000
they don't want
that.
564
01:15:35,416 --> 01:15:36,791
But if you look at
the six deals
565
01:15:36,875 --> 01:15:38,083
that we made
peace,
566
01:15:38,458 --> 01:15:39,875
and, you know,
long-term,
567
01:15:40,083 --> 01:15:41,125
long-running
wars,
568
01:15:41,958 --> 01:15:43,208
I didn't do any
ceasefires.
569
01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:45,208
Would I like?
570
01:15:45,291 --> 01:15:46,666
I like the concept,
you know, I
571
01:15:46,750 --> 01:15:48,250
like the concept
of a
572
01:15:48,333 --> 01:15:49,541
ceasefire for one
reason,
573
01:15:49,625 --> 01:15:50,125
because you'd
stop
574
01:15:50,208 --> 01:15:51,041
killing people
immediately,
575
01:15:51,166 --> 01:15:53,125
as opposed to in two
weeks or one
576
01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:54,208
week or whatever
it takes.
577
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,125
But we can work a
deal where we're
578
01:15:57,208 --> 01:15:58,416
working on a peace
deal while
579
01:15:58,500 --> 01:15:59,041
they're fighting.
580
01:15:59,125 --> 01:15:59,708
They have
to fight.
581
01:16:00,041 --> 01:16:01,166
I wish they could
stop.
582
01:16:01,250 --> 01:16:02,250
I'd like them
to stop.
583
01:16:02,333 --> 01:16:03,708
But strategically,
that could be a
584
01:16:03,791 --> 01:16:04,583
disadvantage for
585
01:16:04,666 --> 01:16:05,708
one side or the
other.
586
01:16:06,416 --> 01:16:08,500
But all of these
deals I made
587
01:16:08,583 --> 01:16:10,208
without even the
mention of the
588
01:16:10,291 --> 01:16:11,875
words "seesfire."
589
01:16:12,125 --> 01:16:13,666
(laughter)
590
01:16:14,166 --> 01:16:15,833
President Solentzky,
can you
591
01:16:15,916 --> 01:16:16,916
explain the
592
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,125
decision to offer
Ukraine
593
01:16:18,208 --> 01:16:21,458
Article 5-like security
guarantees,
594
01:16:21,666 --> 01:16:23,791
but stop short of
pushing
595
01:16:23,875 --> 01:16:24,916
for their full
membership?
596
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,916
Yeah, well, we
haven't done
597
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,083
anything on that
yet.
598
01:16:28,375 --> 01:16:30,166
If you look back
and you go back
599
01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:31,833
long before President
Putin,
600
01:16:32,583 --> 01:16:34,000
it was always a statement
that they
601
01:16:34,083 --> 01:16:34,750
would never allow
602
01:16:34,833 --> 01:16:35,958
Ukraine and
today,
603
01:16:36,041 --> 01:16:36,625
so that was a
604
01:16:36,708 --> 01:16:37,541
statement that
was made.
605
01:16:37,625 --> 01:16:38,458
But we haven't
606
01:16:38,541 --> 01:16:39,583
discussed any of
that yet.
607
01:16:39,666 --> 01:16:40,041
We're going to be
608
01:16:40,125 --> 01:16:41,083
discussing it
today.
609
01:16:41,416 --> 01:16:42,791
But we will give
them very good
610
01:16:42,875 --> 01:16:44,291
protection, very
good security.
611
01:16:44,375 --> 01:16:44,958
That's part
of it.
612
01:16:45,208 --> 01:16:46,625
The people that are
waiting for us,
613
01:16:47,541 --> 01:16:48,958
they are,
I think,
614
01:16:49,041 --> 01:16:49,791
they're very like-minded.
615
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,458
They want to help
out all.
616
01:16:53,125 --> 01:16:53,166
(laughter)
617
01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:54,500
Thank you, President
Solentzky.
618
01:16:54,791 --> 01:16:55,250
Thank you.
619
01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:56,458
Thank you, President
Trump.
620
01:16:57,083 --> 01:16:59,875
The United States has
already given
621
01:16:59,958 --> 01:17:01,583
hundreds of billions
of dollars to
622
01:17:01,666 --> 01:17:02,791
this war effort
in Ukraine.
623
01:17:03,791 --> 01:17:06,041
At best, it is a stalemate
and the
624
01:17:06,125 --> 01:17:06,958
killing continues.
625
01:17:07,583 --> 01:17:09,250
So, President Trump,
how much more
626
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:10,000
is the United
States
627
01:17:10,083 --> 01:17:11,166
willing to give
Ukraine?
628
01:17:11,458 --> 01:17:13,125
And President Solentzky,
how much
629
01:17:13,208 --> 01:17:14,166
more do you want?
630
01:17:15,166 --> 01:17:16,875
Well, I'll start off
just by saying
631
01:17:16,958 --> 01:17:18,583
we're not giving
anything now.
632
01:17:18,666 --> 01:17:19,458
We're selling
weapons.
633
01:17:19,875 --> 01:17:22,750
This is something
before, I guess,
634
01:17:22,833 --> 01:17:24,750
the numbers well over
$300 billion.
635
01:17:25,250 --> 01:17:27,833
That was under Joe
Biden, a corrupt
636
01:17:27,916 --> 01:17:31,833
politician, not a
smart man.
637
01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:32,708
Never was.
638
01:17:32,958 --> 01:17:34,208
By the way, go back
40 years.
639
01:17:34,291 --> 01:17:34,916
He was not
a smart
640
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,208
man 40 years ago
either.
641
01:17:36,708 --> 01:17:38,416
But now he's in particular
bad.
642
01:17:39,208 --> 01:17:40,583
This was done by
a corrupt
643
01:17:40,666 --> 01:17:41,708
administration
that
644
01:17:41,791 --> 01:17:42,125
shouldn't have
been in.
645
01:17:42,208 --> 01:17:46,291
And frankly, if the
right results
646
01:17:46,375 --> 01:17:48,166
of the election were
given, if I
647
01:17:48,250 --> 01:17:49,750
were president, this
war would have
648
01:17:49,833 --> 01:17:50,708
never taken
place.
649
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,291
And he would have
been very happy
650
01:17:52,375 --> 01:17:53,416
because he would
651
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:54,416
have liked to
have seen.
652
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:55,416
I mean, they went
through hell.
653
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:56,291
He went through
hell.
654
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,791
This war would have
never happened.
655
01:17:58,875 --> 01:18:00,708
And the people that
were killed, a
656
01:18:00,791 --> 01:18:01,958
couple of million
people, a lot of
657
01:18:02,041 --> 01:18:02,791
people with
soldiers
658
01:18:02,875 --> 01:18:03,750
and everything
else,
659
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:05,291
and the people that
have been
660
01:18:05,375 --> 01:18:06,958
displaced and forced
into other
661
01:18:07,041 --> 01:18:08,541
areas and other countries
because
662
01:18:08,625 --> 01:18:09,416
of what's
happened,
663
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:10,166
none of that would
have happened.
664
01:18:11,166 --> 01:18:14,708
And I'm just saying
that he was a
665
01:18:14,791 --> 01:18:16,416
horrible president,
whether it was
666
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:17,791
the borders or
this.
667
01:18:18,458 --> 01:18:19,166
He was just a
668
01:18:19,250 --> 01:18:21,458
horrible, corrupt
president.
669
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:23,666
Mr. President, I
670
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:25,875
can't thank you
so much.
671
01:18:26,125 --> 01:18:28,000
First of all, we have
the ability
672
01:18:28,083 --> 01:18:29,958
now to buy
weapons
673
01:18:30,041 --> 01:18:31,458
from the United
States.
674
01:18:31,541 --> 01:18:32,875
We are thankful for
this program
675
01:18:32,958 --> 01:18:34,166
and this opportunity.
676
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:35,375
We are thankful
for Europe.
677
01:18:35,583 --> 01:18:36,458
They pay for
this.
678
01:18:36,916 --> 01:18:38,416
And through NATO
program for the
679
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:39,166
term and et
cetera,
680
01:18:39,333 --> 01:18:41,625
we have some programs
where we can
681
01:18:41,708 --> 01:18:43,916
have some money to
finance this.
682
01:18:44,208 --> 01:18:46,541
And this is a part,
I think, it's
683
01:18:46,625 --> 01:18:48,583
not a part
for the
684
01:18:48,666 --> 01:18:50,500
war and to defend
us.
685
01:18:50,583 --> 01:18:53,041
It also will be a part
for security
686
01:18:53,125 --> 01:18:55,500
guarantees to strengthen
our army,
687
01:18:55,916 --> 01:18:58,000
to rearm Ukrainian
army.
688
01:18:58,291 --> 01:19:00,125
This is very, very
important.
689
01:19:00,458 --> 01:19:01,916
And it depends
how much
690
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,666
money we need to
rearm.
691
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,291
For example, the
question of air
692
01:19:05,375 --> 01:19:06,458
defense, we spoke
about
693
01:19:06,541 --> 01:19:07,125
it with President
Trump.
694
01:19:07,208 --> 01:19:09,250
And I'm happy that
we have now
695
01:19:09,333 --> 01:19:11,708
bilateral decisions
and we work on
696
01:19:11,791 --> 01:19:12,916
it with production
of
697
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,666
American production.
698
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:17,416
Nobody in Europe
has so many air
699
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:18,708
defense like
patriots.
700
01:19:18,958 --> 01:19:20,791
For example, we need
it very much.
701
01:19:20,875 --> 01:19:22,416
And this is also about
defending.
702
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,583
I think the good news,
we make the
703
01:19:27,666 --> 01:19:28,375
best military
704
01:19:28,458 --> 01:19:30,000
equipment in the
world by far.
705
01:19:30,083 --> 01:19:31,125
You mentioned the
patriots.
706
01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:31,666
How good are
they?
707
01:19:31,916 --> 01:19:32,125
Systems.
708
01:19:32,208 --> 01:19:33,500
They have
systems.
709
01:19:33,916 --> 01:19:35,125
They're literally
710
01:19:35,208 --> 01:19:37,416
100 percent
foolproof.
711
01:19:38,250 --> 01:19:38,750
And it's really
like
712
01:19:38,833 --> 01:19:39,750
shooting two
bullets.
713
01:19:40,333 --> 01:19:41,875
Two bullets hitting
each other in
714
01:19:41,958 --> 01:19:43,333
the air in a space
like this.
715
01:19:43,541 --> 01:19:45,500
The chances, 100
percent.
716
01:19:45,583 --> 01:19:46,916
It's 99 to 100
percent.
717
01:19:48,125 --> 01:19:51,666
So we sell the equipment
to NATO.
718
01:19:52,416 --> 01:19:53,875
And NATO does what
I don't know
719
01:19:53,958 --> 01:19:54,458
what the arrangement
720
01:19:54,541 --> 01:19:55,791
is that you have
with.
721
01:19:56,458 --> 01:19:57,666
But I know that they
want you to
722
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:58,458
have that equipment.
723
01:19:59,208 --> 01:20:00,416
And we're getting
the best
724
01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:01,125
equipment in the
world.
725
01:20:01,208 --> 01:20:02,250
But they pay us
for the
726
01:20:02,333 --> 01:20:03,750
equipment under
Biden.
727
01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:05,666
It was just crazy
728
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:06,666
what was going
on.
729
01:20:07,083 --> 01:20:08,916
I believe the number
is over 300.
730
01:20:09,166 --> 01:20:11,000
I think it could
be 350 billion
731
01:20:11,083 --> 01:20:12,458
dollars worth of
equipment and
732
01:20:12,541 --> 01:20:13,875
money and everything
else.
733
01:20:14,583 --> 01:20:16,125
And we've made more
progress in
734
01:20:16,208 --> 01:20:18,375
settling this war
in the last two
735
01:20:18,458 --> 01:20:18,958
months than they
736
01:20:19,041 --> 01:20:19,958
made in four
years.
737
01:20:20,291 --> 01:20:21,250
They should have
been settled a
738
01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:22,208
long time ago,
but it
739
01:20:22,291 --> 01:20:23,291
should have never
happened.
740
01:20:23,375 --> 01:20:23,500
Yeah.
741
01:20:24,166 --> 01:20:26,791
You pushed out on
social media.
742
01:20:27,166 --> 01:20:28,625
Go first.
743
01:20:28,875 --> 01:20:30,208
You pushed out on
social media
744
01:20:30,291 --> 01:20:32,791
about doing away
with mail in
745
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:34,083
ballots and potentially
746
01:20:34,166 --> 01:20:35,291
electronic voting
machines.
747
01:20:35,375 --> 01:20:36,083
Can you expand
on that?
748
01:20:36,416 --> 01:20:37,541
Well, that's a
very off
749
01:20:37,625 --> 01:20:38,958
topic just really
quickly.
750
01:20:39,416 --> 01:20:40,708
Mail in ballots
are corrupt.
751
01:20:41,375 --> 01:20:42,041
Mail in ballots.
752
01:20:42,291 --> 01:20:45,458
You can never have
a real democracy
753
01:20:45,541 --> 01:20:46,666
with mail in
ballots.
754
01:20:47,375 --> 01:20:49,250
And we as a Republican
Party are
755
01:20:49,333 --> 01:20:50,625
going to do everything
possible
756
01:20:50,708 --> 01:20:53,125
that we get rid of
mail in ballots.
757
01:20:53,208 --> 01:20:53,958
We're going to
start with an
758
01:20:54,041 --> 01:20:55,291
executive order
that's being
759
01:20:55,375 --> 01:20:56,541
written right now
by the best
760
01:20:56,625 --> 01:20:59,250
lawyers in the country
to end mail
761
01:20:59,333 --> 01:21:01,541
in ballots because
they're corrupt.
762
01:21:02,583 --> 01:21:05,041
And you know that
we're the only
763
01:21:05,125 --> 01:21:06,625
country in the world,
I believe I
764
01:21:06,708 --> 01:21:08,208
may be wrong, but
just about the
765
01:21:08,291 --> 01:21:09,750
only country in the
world that uses
766
01:21:09,833 --> 01:21:11,833
it because of what's
happened.
767
01:21:12,041 --> 01:21:13,500
Massive fraud all
over the place.
768
01:21:13,583 --> 01:21:14,750
The other thing we
want change in
769
01:21:14,833 --> 01:21:18,208
the machines
for all
770
01:21:18,291 --> 01:21:19,083
of the money they
spend.
771
01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:22,125
It's approximately
10 times more
772
01:21:22,208 --> 01:21:23,833
expensive than paper
ballots and
773
01:21:23,916 --> 01:21:24,791
paper ballots
are very
774
01:21:24,875 --> 01:21:26,125
sophisticated with
the watermark
775
01:21:26,208 --> 01:21:27,250
paper and everything
else.
776
01:21:27,875 --> 01:21:29,458
We would get secure
elections.
777
01:21:29,541 --> 01:21:30,958
We get much faster
results.
778
01:21:31,041 --> 01:21:32,416
The machines, I
mean, they say
779
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:33,458
we're going to have
the results in
780
01:21:33,541 --> 01:21:35,458
two weeks with paper
ballots.
781
01:21:35,541 --> 01:21:37,375
You have the results
that night.
782
01:21:38,208 --> 01:21:39,833
Most people almost
have, but most
783
01:21:39,916 --> 01:21:40,958
people, many
784
01:21:41,041 --> 01:21:42,500
countries use paper
ballots.
785
01:21:42,583 --> 01:21:44,166
It's the most
secure form.
786
01:21:44,375 --> 01:21:46,500
So between paper
ballots, very,
787
01:21:46,583 --> 01:21:49,000
very important paper
ballots.
788
01:21:49,291 --> 01:21:51,291
And I think maybe
even more
789
01:21:51,375 --> 01:21:53,166
important, the mail
in voting,
790
01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:54,750
we're going to end
mail in voting.
791
01:21:55,166 --> 01:21:55,958
It's a fraud.
792
01:21:56,583 --> 01:21:57,916
If you have mail
in vote, even
793
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:58,916
Jimmy Carter with
this
794
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,125
commission, they
set it up.
795
01:22:00,625 --> 01:22:02,125
He said the one thing
about mail in
796
01:22:02,208 --> 01:22:03,750
voting, you will
never have an
797
01:22:03,833 --> 01:22:04,625
honest election
if
798
01:22:04,708 --> 01:22:05,583
you have mail
in it.
799
01:22:05,666 --> 01:22:07,291
And it's time that
the Republicans
800
01:22:07,375 --> 01:22:09,833
get tough and stop
it because the
801
01:22:09,916 --> 01:22:11,166
Democrats
want it.
802
01:22:11,458 --> 01:22:12,875
It's the only way
they can get
803
01:22:12,958 --> 01:22:15,291
elected because
with men and
804
01:22:15,375 --> 01:22:17,166
women's sports and
with transgender
805
01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:19,291
for everybody and
open borders and
806
01:22:19,375 --> 01:22:20,708
all of the horrible
thing.
807
01:22:20,791 --> 01:22:21,333
And now the new
808
01:22:21,416 --> 01:22:23,125
thing is they
love crime.
809
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:25,625
They're fighting
me on the fact
810
01:22:25,708 --> 01:22:26,416
that I've made
811
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:28,625
Washington, D.C.
safe.
812
01:22:28,708 --> 01:22:29,875
We're not going
to get mugged,
813
01:22:29,958 --> 01:22:31,833
beaten up or killed
like all the
814
01:22:31,916 --> 01:22:32,458
people you've
been
815
01:22:32,541 --> 01:22:34,958
watching get so
badly hurt.
816
01:22:35,041 --> 01:22:36,875
I'm glad I hate to
take your time
817
01:22:36,958 --> 01:22:38,708
with this, but I'm
glad you asked
818
01:22:38,791 --> 01:22:39,125
me that question.
819
01:22:39,208 --> 01:22:42,583
We're going to stop
mail in ballots
820
01:22:42,666 --> 01:22:43,708
because it's
corrupt.
821
01:22:44,541 --> 01:22:45,583
You know, when you
go to a voting
822
01:22:45,666 --> 01:22:47,125
booth and you do it
the right way
823
01:22:47,208 --> 01:22:49,250
and you go to a state
that runs it
824
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:50,791
properly, you
go in.
825
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:51,833
They even ask me.
826
01:22:51,916 --> 01:22:52,625
They ask me
for my
827
01:22:52,708 --> 01:22:53,875
license plate
for it.
828
01:22:53,958 --> 01:22:56,208
I said, I don't know
if I have it.
829
01:22:56,291 --> 01:22:57,916
He said, sir, you
have to have it.
830
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,250
I was very impressed,
actually.
831
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,125
But it's very
hard to
832
01:23:01,208 --> 01:23:03,166
cheat with mail
in voting.
833
01:23:03,250 --> 01:23:04,833
As you know, what
happens in
834
01:23:04,916 --> 01:23:07,083
California, it's so
corrupt where
835
01:23:07,166 --> 01:23:07,791
some people get
836
01:23:07,875 --> 01:23:08,125
five, six, seven
ballots.
837
01:23:08,208 --> 01:23:11,208
Delivered to them
that we got to
838
01:23:11,291 --> 01:23:12,458
stop mail in voting
and the
839
01:23:12,541 --> 01:23:13,291
Republicans have
840
01:23:13,375 --> 01:23:14,166
to leave the
charge.
841
01:23:14,583 --> 01:23:16,500
The Democrats want
it because they
842
01:23:16,583 --> 01:23:17,791
have horrible
policy.
843
01:23:17,875 --> 01:23:19,083
If you have mail in
voting, you're
844
01:23:19,166 --> 01:23:19,708
not going to have
many
845
01:23:19,791 --> 01:23:20,875
Democrats get
elected.
846
01:23:21,333 --> 01:23:22,458
That's bigger than
anything having
847
01:23:22,541 --> 01:23:22,958
to do with
848
01:23:23,041 --> 01:23:24,333
redistricting,
believe me.
849
01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:25,333
And the Republicans
850
01:23:25,416 --> 01:23:26,291
have to get
smart.
851
01:23:26,708 --> 01:23:28,041
We're not going to
have a country.
852
01:23:28,458 --> 01:23:30,500
I said for a long
time at rallies,
853
01:23:30,583 --> 01:23:34,291
you need borders and
you need free
854
01:23:34,375 --> 01:23:35,125
and fair elections.
855
01:23:35,208 --> 01:23:36,958
Those two things.
856
01:23:37,166 --> 01:23:38,458
Otherwise, you don't
have we have
857
01:23:38,541 --> 01:23:41,083
strong borders now
in 90 days.
858
01:23:41,166 --> 01:23:43,416
Mr. President, we
didn't have one
859
01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:45,708
zero zero and three
months.
860
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:48,375
Not one person came
in illegally
861
01:23:48,458 --> 01:23:49,416
into our country.
862
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:50,791
In fact, even I find
that hard to
863
01:23:50,875 --> 01:23:52,458
believe, but it's
written by a
864
01:23:52,541 --> 01:23:53,750
little bit of a liberal
group that
865
01:23:53,833 --> 01:23:54,666
put out the
numbers.
866
01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:58,333
So I guess it's zero
zero and zero.
867
01:23:58,958 --> 01:24:00,666
You go back a year
ago, two years
868
01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:02,541
ago, three millions
of people
869
01:24:02,625 --> 01:24:04,083
poured into our
country.
870
01:24:04,125 --> 01:24:04,166
It was terrible.
871
01:24:04,250 --> 01:24:05,416
Thank you very
much.
872
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:10,833
The guarantees do
you need from
873
01:24:10,916 --> 01:24:12,208
President Trump
to be
874
01:24:12,291 --> 01:24:13,166
able to make
a deal?
875
01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:14,041
Is it American
troops,
876
01:24:14,583 --> 01:24:15,333
intelligent
equipment?
877
01:24:15,791 --> 01:24:16,375
What is it?
878
01:24:18,041 --> 01:24:18,250
Everything.
879
01:24:19,291 --> 01:24:20,791
And really,
we it's
880
01:24:20,875 --> 01:24:22,916
it's includes two
part.
881
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:25,541
First, strong Ukrainian
army.
882
01:24:25,875 --> 01:24:26,958
That what I began
to
883
01:24:27,041 --> 01:24:28,791
discuss with your
colleagues.
884
01:24:29,458 --> 01:24:31,750
And it's a lot about
weapon and
885
01:24:31,833 --> 01:24:32,833
people and
training
886
01:24:32,916 --> 01:24:34,291
missions and intelligence.
887
01:24:34,500 --> 01:24:36,875
And second, it will
we will discuss
888
01:24:36,958 --> 01:24:37,833
with our partners.
889
01:24:38,041 --> 01:24:40,416
It depends on the big
countries, on
890
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:41,791
the United States,
on
891
01:24:41,875 --> 01:24:43,625
a lot of our
friends.
892
01:24:44,041 --> 01:24:45,708
Mr. President, you
have to commit
893
01:24:45,791 --> 01:24:48,125
American troops to
that NATO like
894
01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:49,833
protection in
order to get
895
01:24:49,916 --> 01:24:51,458
President Zelensky
to a deal today.
896
01:24:51,666 --> 01:24:52,625
Well, I don't know
if you define it
897
01:24:52,708 --> 01:24:54,333
that way, but NATO
like I mean,
898
01:24:54,416 --> 01:24:56,208
we're going to give
we have people
899
01:24:56,291 --> 01:24:58,125
waiting in another
room right now.
900
01:24:58,208 --> 01:24:59,916
They're all here
from Europe,
901
01:25:00,416 --> 01:25:02,333
biggest people in
Europe, and they
902
01:25:02,416 --> 01:25:03,375
want to give
protection.
903
01:25:03,458 --> 01:25:04,708
They feel very strongly
about it
904
01:25:04,791 --> 01:25:06,166
and will help them
out with that.
905
01:25:06,250 --> 01:25:07,041
I think it's very
important.
906
01:25:07,125 --> 01:25:08,416
I think it's very
907
01:25:08,500 --> 01:25:09,541
important to get
the deal.
908
01:25:09,625 --> 01:25:14,458
You've been involved
with the
909
01:25:14,541 --> 01:25:16,333
peacekeeping in Ukraine
since your
910
01:25:16,416 --> 01:25:18,000
first day in the
administration.
911
01:25:18,750 --> 01:25:20,708
What would you say
to the Ukrainian
912
01:25:20,791 --> 01:25:23,250
people right now who
are suffering
913
01:25:23,333 --> 01:25:25,958
under the Russian
attacks and
914
01:25:26,041 --> 01:25:26,875
hoping that the
915
01:25:26,958 --> 01:25:27,166
American people
will stand up?
916
01:25:28,166 --> 01:25:30,458
Well, I know Ukrainian
people.
917
01:25:30,541 --> 01:25:32,125
I've known many over
the years.
918
01:25:32,208 --> 01:25:32,833
They're great
people.
919
01:25:33,291 --> 01:25:33,833
They're smart.
920
01:25:34,166 --> 01:25:34,833
They're energetic.
921
01:25:35,791 --> 01:25:37,250
They love their
country.
922
01:25:37,666 --> 01:25:38,958
I mean, they love their
country and
923
01:25:39,041 --> 01:25:40,375
we want to get this
war ended.
924
01:25:40,458 --> 01:25:41,291
That's all I
can do.
925
01:25:42,083 --> 01:25:42,958
I love the
Ukrainian
926
01:25:43,041 --> 01:25:44,458
people, but I love
all people.
927
01:25:44,541 --> 01:25:45,541
I love the Russian
people.
928
01:25:45,958 --> 01:25:46,625
I love them all.
929
01:25:47,125 --> 01:25:48,291
I want to get the
war stopped.
930
01:25:48,958 --> 01:25:49,125
Very important.
931
01:25:49,208 --> 01:25:53,916
Mr. President, was
there any aspect
932
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,958
of your discussion
with Vladimir
933
01:25:56,041 --> 01:25:57,583
Putin that left you
disappointed?
934
01:25:59,125 --> 01:26:02,541
Look, we just spoke
to, I was just
935
01:26:02,625 --> 01:26:04,375
telling the president,
I just spoke
936
01:26:04,458 --> 01:26:07,000
to President Putin
indirectly, and
937
01:26:07,083 --> 01:26:08,041
we're going to have
a phone call
938
01:26:08,125 --> 01:26:09,541
right after these
meetings today.
939
01:26:10,375 --> 01:26:11,416
And we may or may
940
01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:12,416
not have a
trilat.
941
01:26:12,708 --> 01:26:14,375
If we don't have a
trilat, then the
942
01:26:14,458 --> 01:26:15,500
fighting continues.
943
01:26:16,166 --> 01:26:16,750
And if we do, we
944
01:26:16,833 --> 01:26:17,125
have a good
chance.
945
01:26:17,208 --> 01:26:18,541
I think if we have
a trilat,
946
01:26:18,625 --> 01:26:18,916
there's a good
947
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,333
chance of maybe
ending it.
948
01:26:20,416 --> 01:26:24,166
But he's expecting
my call when
949
01:26:24,250 --> 01:26:25,375
we're finished with
this meeting.
950
01:26:25,791 --> 01:26:26,458
Thank you very
much.
951
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,458
Thank you.
952
01:26:32,833 --> 01:26:35,458
And there you
have it.
953
01:26:35,541 --> 01:26:37,000
President Trump sitting
side by
954
01:26:37,083 --> 01:26:38,500
side with Ukrainian
President
955
01:26:38,583 --> 01:26:40,208
Zelensky in the
Oval Office,
956
01:26:40,583 --> 01:26:42,500
the two leaders striking
a cordial,
957
01:26:42,583 --> 01:26:43,583
collegial
tone and
958
01:26:43,666 --> 01:26:45,125
also somewhat
optimistic.
959
01:26:45,208 --> 01:26:48,375
Of course, a notable
change in tone
960
01:26:48,458 --> 01:26:49,750
from the last time
they met that
961
01:26:49,833 --> 01:26:51,791
explosive blowup that
they had in
962
01:26:51,875 --> 01:26:53,375
the Oval Office back
in February.
963
01:26:53,666 --> 01:26:55,916
Back then, President
Trump berating
964
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,958
the Ukrainian leader,
accusing him
965
01:26:58,041 --> 01:26:59,458
of not being grateful
enough for
966
01:26:59,541 --> 01:27:00,583
American support.
967
01:27:00,666 --> 01:27:02,625
Instead today, the
two leaders side
968
01:27:02,708 --> 01:27:04,750
by side trying to
chart a path
969
01:27:04,833 --> 01:27:06,791
forward to finally
end this war.
970
01:27:07,166 --> 01:27:08,458
President Trump saying
he thinks
971
01:27:08,541 --> 01:27:09,208
there's a reasonable
972
01:27:09,291 --> 01:27:11,000
chance of ending
the war.
973
01:27:11,083 --> 01:27:13,125
He repeatedly said
he's focused on
974
01:27:13,208 --> 01:27:14,125
achieving lasting
peace.
975
01:27:14,208 --> 01:27:17,000
That said, he was
vague in many of
976
01:27:17,083 --> 01:27:18,958
his responses there
on many of the
977
01:27:19,041 --> 01:27:20,125
critical aspects
of these
978
01:27:20,208 --> 01:27:21,583
negotiations, including
those
979
01:27:21,666 --> 01:27:24,125
security guarantees
that Zelensky
980
01:27:24,208 --> 01:27:25,083
and other
European
981
01:27:25,166 --> 01:27:26,625
leaders have been
demanding.
982
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,000
He appeared also
not to
983
01:27:28,083 --> 01:27:29,041
want to tip the
scales.
984
01:27:29,125 --> 01:27:30,666
While in the past,
President Trump
985
01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:32,250
has made very clear
who he thinks
986
01:27:32,333 --> 01:27:33,833
holds the cards
here.
987
01:27:34,083 --> 01:27:35,916
When asked that, he
didn't want to
988
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,166
respond and give
a clear answer.
989
01:27:38,166 --> 01:27:40,458
Although he did say
heading into
990
01:27:40,541 --> 01:27:41,833
this meeting that
he does think
991
01:27:41,916 --> 01:27:43,833
that what comes
next is up to
992
01:27:43,916 --> 01:27:45,208
Vladimir Zelensky,
the Ukrainian
993
01:27:45,291 --> 01:27:46,958
leader, saying that
he could end
994
01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:48,833
the war almost
immediately.
995
01:27:49,166 --> 01:27:50,541
Let's bring in Rachel
Scott at the
996
01:27:50,625 --> 01:27:51,416
White House, our
senior
997
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:52,416
political correspondent.
998
01:27:52,708 --> 01:27:53,791
And Rachel, of course,
so much of
999
01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:55,250
these negotiations
and the
1000
01:27:55,333 --> 01:27:57,208
conversation around
this ever since
1001
01:27:57,291 --> 01:27:58,416
that meeting with
Vladimir Putin
1002
01:27:58,500 --> 01:27:59,583
has been about
the
1003
01:27:59,666 --> 01:28:00,541
issue of a ceasefire.
1004
01:28:00,875 --> 01:28:02,333
The president went
into that
1005
01:28:02,416 --> 01:28:03,750
meeting on Friday,
making very
1006
01:28:03,833 --> 01:28:04,125
clear that was his
objective.
1007
01:28:04,208 --> 01:28:06,708
He wanted to walk
out of that
1008
01:28:06,791 --> 01:28:07,916
summit with a
ceasefire.
1009
01:28:08,166 --> 01:28:09,000
That did not
happen.
1010
01:28:09,541 --> 01:28:10,583
Since then, though,
we have seen
1011
01:28:10,666 --> 01:28:12,583
President Trump backing
off that
1012
01:28:12,666 --> 01:28:14,833
previous push, instead
embracing
1013
01:28:14,916 --> 01:28:17,083
what had been Putin's
demand that
1014
01:28:17,166 --> 01:28:18,875
they instead work
towards a full
1015
01:28:18,958 --> 01:28:20,166
peace agreement
based
1016
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:21,375
on a swap of territories.
1017
01:28:21,583 --> 01:28:23,166
And again here today,
you heard the
1018
01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:25,000
president saying,
quote, I don't
1019
01:28:25,083 --> 01:28:26,916
think you need a ceasefire,
Rachel.
1020
01:28:27,458 --> 01:28:28,875
Yes, Marian, it
is an extreme
1021
01:28:28,958 --> 01:28:30,416
change in tone from
the president.
1022
01:28:30,625 --> 01:28:32,208
I was on Air Force
One traveling to
1023
01:28:32,291 --> 01:28:33,125
Alaska with the
president.
1024
01:28:33,208 --> 01:28:34,041
He came back.
1025
01:28:34,125 --> 01:28:36,041
He spoke to reporters
on our way to
1026
01:28:36,125 --> 01:28:37,500
Anchorage and he said
that he wants
1027
01:28:37,583 --> 01:28:39,208
to see a ceasefire
rapidly.
1028
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:41,083
That was his message
heading into
1029
01:28:41,166 --> 01:28:42,625
that critical and
pivotal meeting
1030
01:28:42,708 --> 01:28:43,208
with Russian
1031
01:28:43,291 --> 01:28:44,458
President Vladimir
Putin.
1032
01:28:44,541 --> 01:28:46,375
Now coming out of that
meeting with
1033
01:28:46,458 --> 01:28:48,541
no ceasefire agreement
in hand, no
1034
01:28:48,625 --> 01:28:50,083
agreement reach,
no date for a
1035
01:28:50,166 --> 01:28:52,458
trilateral meeting
set up, the
1036
01:28:52,541 --> 01:28:54,416
president now having
this change in
1037
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:56,250
tone in which he's
saying that he
1038
01:28:56,333 --> 01:28:58,083
believes the focus
should be on a
1039
01:28:58,166 --> 01:28:59,458
lasting peace
and a
1040
01:28:59,541 --> 01:29:00,875
longer term peace
deal.
1041
01:29:01,333 --> 01:29:03,083
Also, Mary, this issue
of whether
1042
01:29:03,166 --> 01:29:04,500
or not there will
be consequences
1043
01:29:04,583 --> 01:29:06,125
for President
Putin.
1044
01:29:06,208 --> 01:29:07,375
We heard the president
repeatedly
1045
01:29:07,458 --> 01:29:09,041
warn and the lead
up to that
1046
01:29:09,125 --> 01:29:10,958
meeting and that summit
that Putin
1047
01:29:11,041 --> 01:29:12,458
would face consequences
if there
1048
01:29:12,541 --> 01:29:13,875
was no agreement
reach.
1049
01:29:13,958 --> 01:29:15,791
The president now
seems to also be
1050
01:29:15,875 --> 01:29:17,666
backing away from
that as they
1051
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:19,208
continue these
negotiations,
1052
01:29:19,666 --> 01:29:20,958
notable that the
president also
1053
01:29:21,041 --> 01:29:22,833
said after this
meeting today,
1054
01:29:22,916 --> 01:29:24,250
after the president
does meet with
1055
01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:25,458
Zelensky and also
with these
1056
01:29:25,541 --> 01:29:26,666
European leaders that
are going to
1057
01:29:26,750 --> 01:29:28,208
be here at the White
House, he's
1058
01:29:28,291 --> 01:29:29,375
going to be calling
the Russian
1059
01:29:29,458 --> 01:29:30,125
leader once again to figure out a
way to get a peace agreement.
1060
01:29:30,208 --> 01:29:31,416
And again, to figure
out if the
1061
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:32,875
three of them could
get in a room
1062
01:29:32,958 --> 01:29:34,166
sometime this
week or
1063
01:29:34,250 --> 01:29:35,458
in the future.
Mary.
1064
01:29:35,791 --> 01:29:36,666
And Rachel, that
is really
1065
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:38,083
remarkable because
of course, as
1066
01:29:38,166 --> 01:29:39,458
you noted, the president
had been
1067
01:29:39,541 --> 01:29:40,625
promising those
harsh
1068
01:29:40,708 --> 01:29:42,125
economic consequences.
1069
01:29:42,416 --> 01:29:43,958
As you note, that didn't
happen. No
1070
01:29:44,041 --> 01:29:45,000
ceasefire,
no harsh
1071
01:29:45,083 --> 01:29:46,250
consequences for
Russia.
1072
01:29:46,708 --> 01:29:47,958
And the president
still sounding
1073
01:29:48,041 --> 01:29:49,250
optimistic there, though,
that they
1074
01:29:49,333 --> 01:29:52,166
can still sometime
soon have that
1075
01:29:52,250 --> 01:29:53,791
much sought after
trilateral
1076
01:29:53,875 --> 01:29:55,958
meeting, getting Vladimir
Putin and
1077
01:29:56,041 --> 01:29:57,333
President Zelensky
and President
1078
01:29:57,416 --> 01:29:58,791
Trump all to sit
down.
1079
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:01,166
It's clear the president
didn't get
1080
01:30:01,250 --> 01:30:03,291
what he initially
wanted heading
1081
01:30:03,375 --> 01:30:04,250
into that
meeting.
1082
01:30:04,333 --> 01:30:05,750
We asked him what
his expectations
1083
01:30:05,833 --> 01:30:08,041
were. What would success
look like?
1084
01:30:08,125 --> 01:30:10,291
He said a ceasefire
happening very
1085
01:30:10,375 --> 01:30:12,625
soon. This still has
not happened.
1086
01:30:13,041 --> 01:30:13,916
But the president
and his
1087
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,750
conversations is
clearly seeing
1088
01:30:15,833 --> 01:30:17,250
something that gives
him a reason
1089
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:19,458
to believe that there
may see there
1090
01:30:19,541 --> 01:30:20,833
may be some sort of
agreement that
1091
01:30:20,916 --> 01:30:22,125
ultimately can be
worked out.
1092
01:30:22,208 --> 01:30:24,416
And it's clear that
the president
1093
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:26,541
is actually warming
up to
1094
01:30:26,625 --> 01:30:28,791
Zelensky's demand
that he needs to
1095
01:30:28,875 --> 01:30:30,208
see some sort of
security
1096
01:30:30,291 --> 01:30:31,583
guarantees, not
only from the
1097
01:30:31,666 --> 01:30:33,666
United States, but
also our allies.
1098
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:35,375
The president very
warm to that
1099
01:30:35,458 --> 01:30:36,791
idea. And it's something
that he
1100
01:30:36,875 --> 01:30:38,166
clearly also communicated
with
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01:30:38,250 --> 01:30:40,041
Russian President
Vladimir Putin.
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01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:41,125
But you also heard
there from
1103
01:30:41,208 --> 01:30:42,500
Ukrainian President
Zelensky when
1104
01:30:42,583 --> 01:30:43,750
he was asked, what
more do you
1105
01:30:43,833 --> 01:30:44,791
need? He said we
1106
01:30:44,875 --> 01:30:46,125
need everything.
Mary.
1107
01:30:46,208 --> 01:30:48,625
We need everything.
Rachel, thank
1108
01:30:48,708 --> 01:30:49,791
you. Let's get to our
chief foreign
1109
01:30:49,875 --> 01:30:50,541
correspondent,
Ian
1110
01:30:50,625 --> 01:30:52,291
Panel, who is there
in Kyiv.
1111
01:30:52,375 --> 01:30:53,833
And Ian, as we said,
the president,
1112
01:30:53,916 --> 01:30:55,208
they're very vague
on many of the
1113
01:30:55,291 --> 01:30:56,875
specifics of these
negotiations,
1114
01:30:56,958 --> 01:30:57,916
including those
1115
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,541
critical security
guarantees.
1116
01:31:02,375 --> 01:31:04,333
Yes. And why is that
important,
1117
01:31:04,541 --> 01:31:05,958
Mary? Let's remind
everyone about
1118
01:31:06,041 --> 01:31:07,375
that terrible attack
that took
1119
01:31:07,458 --> 01:31:09,500
place in the northern
city of
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01:31:09,583 --> 01:31:10,375
Harkiv, Ukraine's
1121
01:31:10,458 --> 01:31:11,125
second largest
city.
1122
01:31:11,208 --> 01:31:14,416
Five drones hitting
one building,
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01:31:15,083 --> 01:31:17,083
killing seven people,
injuring over
1124
01:31:17,166 --> 01:31:19,166
20, and amongst the
dead was one
1125
01:31:19,250 --> 01:31:19,958
and a half
year old
1126
01:31:20,041 --> 01:31:21,250
little girl called
Mia.
1127
01:31:21,625 --> 01:31:24,083
And that was brought
up in that in
1128
01:31:24,166 --> 01:31:26,125
that conversation there.
And that's
1129
01:31:26,208 --> 01:31:27,708
why Zelensky says
he wants the
1130
01:31:27,791 --> 01:31:28,500
security
1131
01:31:28,583 --> 01:31:30,333
protections and
the weapons.
1132
01:31:32,041 --> 01:31:33,750
Russia continuing to
attack Ukraine
1133
01:31:33,833 --> 01:31:35,083
in the middle of
all of this, of
1134
01:31:35,166 --> 01:31:36,458
course. Ian,
thank you.
1135
01:31:36,541 --> 01:31:37,375
Let's bring in quickly
our chief
1136
01:31:37,458 --> 01:31:38,041
global affairs
1137
01:31:38,125 --> 01:31:39,125
correspondent, Martha
Raditz.
1138
01:31:39,208 --> 01:31:41,083
And Martha, you
know, you have
1139
01:31:41,166 --> 01:31:42,500
interviewed Zelensky.
You spoke
1140
01:31:42,583 --> 01:31:43,833
with him, of course,
after that
1141
01:31:43,916 --> 01:31:44,750
previous blow up
1142
01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:45,875
in the Oval
Office.
1143
01:31:45,958 --> 01:31:47,208
It is notable the
stark
1144
01:31:47,291 --> 01:31:48,541
change in tone
here today.
1145
01:31:49,291 --> 01:31:51,291
Stark change in tone,
stark change
1146
01:31:51,375 --> 01:31:52,916
in the way he dressed,
if you'll
1147
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,916
remember that that
episode started
1148
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,541
in the White House
in February with
1149
01:31:57,625 --> 01:31:59,083
someone saying he
was dressed too
1150
01:31:59,166 --> 01:31:59,958
casually and he
1151
01:32:00,041 --> 01:32:01,125
could have had a
suit on.
1152
01:32:01,208 --> 01:32:03,583
It was a devastating
meeting for
1153
01:32:03,666 --> 01:32:05,833
Zelensky. And I asked
him about
1154
01:32:05,916 --> 01:32:07,958
that meeting in June
and he said,
1155
01:32:08,041 --> 01:32:08,750
the camera
doesn't
1156
01:32:08,833 --> 01:32:10,875
lie. I can be
emotional.
1157
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:13,000
He said, for people
in America,
1158
01:32:13,500 --> 01:32:15,416
they have to remember
we've had
1159
01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:19,416
90,000 people dead,
631 of them
1160
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:20,583
were Ukrainian
children.
1161
01:32:20,833 --> 01:32:22,333
You can certainly
add on that
1162
01:32:22,416 --> 01:32:24,541
today. And over the
last couple of
1163
01:32:24,625 --> 01:32:25,208
months, there are
1164
01:32:25,291 --> 01:32:26,125
many more than
that.
1165
01:32:26,208 --> 01:32:28,583
I also ask him after
that Vatican
1166
01:32:28,666 --> 01:32:30,416
meeting, whether things
had changed
1167
01:32:30,500 --> 01:32:31,416
with his relationship
1168
01:32:31,500 --> 01:32:32,500
with President
Trump.
1169
01:32:32,791 --> 01:32:34,458
He said, I can't
100 percent
1170
01:32:34,541 --> 01:32:36,458
guarantee that. I
hope we can have
1171
01:32:36,541 --> 01:32:37,375
more time
together.
1172
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:39,750
He certainly got
that today. But
1173
01:32:39,833 --> 01:32:40,958
the pressure is
1174
01:32:41,041 --> 01:32:42,708
clearly on
Zelensky.
1175
01:32:42,791 --> 01:32:44,375
And we can't say enough
that it was
1176
01:32:44,458 --> 01:32:47,166
Russia that invaded
Ukraine. Mary.
1177
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:48,708
Certainly can't say
that enough.
1178
01:32:48,791 --> 01:32:49,958
And of course, no
one is watching
1179
01:32:50,041 --> 01:32:50,958
this more closely
than
1180
01:32:51,041 --> 01:32:52,083
the people of
Ukraine.
1181
01:32:52,166 --> 01:32:53,541
Martha, thank you.
Let's get to
1182
01:32:53,625 --> 01:32:54,625
former State Department
official
1183
01:32:54,708 --> 01:32:55,250
and ABC News
1184
01:32:55,333 --> 01:32:56,833
contributor Colonel
Steve Ganyard.
1185
01:32:56,916 --> 01:32:57,750
And Colonel, I know
you're there at
1186
01:32:57,833 --> 01:32:59,291
the big board with
the map. Can you
1187
01:32:59,375 --> 01:33:00,708
talk us through what
exactly is on
1188
01:33:00,791 --> 01:33:02,041
the table in these
negotiations?
1189
01:33:02,708 --> 01:33:03,958
Yeah, Mary, we know
what's not on
1190
01:33:04,041 --> 01:33:04,916
the table.
That is
1191
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,416
Crimea, Donetsk
and Lhansk.
1192
01:33:08,791 --> 01:33:10,083
Putin has completely
taken those
1193
01:33:10,166 --> 01:33:12,250
off the table. His
demand is for
1194
01:33:12,333 --> 01:33:14,458
Zelensky to give up
this remaining
1195
01:33:14,541 --> 01:33:15,500
part of the
Donbass.
1196
01:33:16,166 --> 01:33:17,500
Zelensky has said,
no way will they
1197
01:33:17,583 --> 01:33:18,666
give it up. So if
we get to
1198
01:33:18,750 --> 01:33:19,625
negotiations,
we're
1199
01:33:19,708 --> 01:33:21,125
starting out at
an impasse.
1200
01:33:21,208 --> 01:33:23,125
All right, Colonel
Ganyard, thank
1201
01:33:23,208 --> 01:33:25,125
you so much. Our coverage
continues
1202
01:33:25,208 --> 01:33:26,125
on ABC News Live
1203
01:33:26,208 --> 01:33:27,541
and ABC News dot
com.
1204
01:33:27,625 --> 01:33:29,000
I'll be back with
the entire team
1205
01:33:29,083 --> 01:33:30,583
for World News Tonight.
I'm Mary
1206
01:33:30,666 --> 01:33:32,000
Bruce in New York.
See you then.
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