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Bye.
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Thank you so much for joining us. It has
been a busy week. California Democrats
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unveiled their new congressional map.
Air Canada flight attendants went on
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strike. And Trump flew to Alaska to talk
to Putin about Ukraine for less than
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three hours.
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Afterwards, they held a press conference
that went so badly, even this Fox News
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reporter couldn't put a positive spin on
it.
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The way that it felt in the room was not
good.
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It did not seem like things went...
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well, and it seemed like Putin came in
and steamrolled, got right into what he
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wanted to say, and got his photo next to
the president and then left.
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Yeah, not great. And while the White
House later released this black and
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photo of Trump looking tough while
talking to Putin, it does seem like the
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was more accurately summed up by this AP
photo of Putin looking confident and
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Trump looking like that room temperature
shrimp is coming back up.
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Meanwhile, back in D .C., this story
dominated the week.
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For the first time in American history,
the president seizing control of the
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police in the nation's capital and
deploying hundreds of National
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Trump says, to fight crime on the
streets of Washington, D .C. I'm
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historic action to rescue our nation's
capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam
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squalor and worse.
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Yeah, and worse.
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Trump has taken over DC's police
department and deployed the National
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well as pulling in agents from the FBI,
DEA, Homeland Security and others who
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flooded the city. At one point, marching
through Georgetown where one guy exited
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a bar with a real look of, oh shit, I am
not dressed for a military invasion
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right now.
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And all the while, Republicans have
tried to justify this move by talking
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what a crime -ridden hellhole DC is.
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DC is not safe.
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People don't just walk the streets in D
.C. and feel safe anywhere around D .C.
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I drive around in Washington, D .C. in
my Jeep, and yes, I do drive myself, and
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I don't buckle up. And the reason why I
don't buckle up, and people can say
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whatever they want to, they can raise
their eyebrows at me again, is because
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carjacking. You don't want to go out on
the streets at night in Washington, D
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.C. I come from a family of public
educators.
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That's one of the reasons I live in my
office at night. But the other reason is
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it's too dadgum dangerous, brother.
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Okay.
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A lot of questions, but my main one is,
why is coming from a family of public
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educators a reason to sleep in your
office at night?
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You guys think I come from a family of
gastroenterologists, that's why I sleep
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in an abandoned ferris wheel.
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Is that why?
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And I said, look, Burchett also told
reporters in February that he sleeps in
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office because it helps him stay
productive and get to meetings early.
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All of which feel like excuses for
something else going on in his life.
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Just why are you sleeping in your
office, Tim? Is it crime? Is it
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Or is it that things aren't great at
home right now, and your wife threw all
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your dad -gum stuff onto the curb?
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And while it is neither here nor there,
I can't not mention that a few weeks
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ago, Bircher announced that he'd broken
his rib after getting kicked by his
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horse. An incident that he later
described like this.
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Yeah,
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would it, though?
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Because that feels like a bad choice of
tattoo for many reasons, including that
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every morning you go into the bathroom,
look in the mirror, and see a
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permanently injured reminder that your
own horse hates you.
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And by bathroom, I of course mean the
public restroom in your congressional
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office building where you sleep every
night for an involving set of reasons.
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And look, violent crime clearly exists
in D .C. like it does... anywhere else.
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But you should know, while Trump talks
of bloodshed, bedlam, squalor and worse,
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homicides in DC were actually down 32 %
last year and are down another 11 % this
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year, on top of which the city's
official violent crime rate in 2024 was
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second lowest reported since 1966.
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But obviously, crime stats don't matter
to this administration.
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This is all about a show of power, just
like it was in June when Trump deployed
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the National Guard to LA on similarly
flimsy pretenses. And he's already
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he may do the same in New York.
Baltimore, Chicago, and Oakland. And
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have been scary images of police
harassing citizens in D .C., there have
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been some truly pathetic videos
illustrating how stupid this whole
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with maybe the purest expression being
this cringe -inducing encounter where a
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group of agents approach a man they
mistakenly think is smoking marijuana on
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back porch, which, by the way, is
completely legal in D .C.
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Did y 'all get a call or something about
right here? No, so we're doing checks,
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keeping everybody safe down here, right?
Have you ever, you heard of the federal
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search that Donald Trump's putting out?
No.
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Right, you don't follow like number
three or anything like that? No.
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All right, so, yeah, Trump's got all
federal agencies kind of coming together
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for seven days and going out.
Absolutely.
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Trying to stop the violent crime, all
kind of stuff. So, just know, right,
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learn, teach, tell your boys, like, yo,
everybody's out.
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Look, that is all alarming and annoying,
but I do love that, guys, did you all
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get a call or something? Because it
might be the single politest person of
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the fuck are you dorks doing on my
property?
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I've ever heard. There must be nothing
more deflating for those ages than to
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show up somewhere, all puffed up and
ready for action, just to have someone
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calmly ask basically, are you little
boys locked?
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And look, who knows?
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Where things will be by the time you
watch this. DC is currently suing over
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Trump's move to take over their police
force, winning a narrow victory on
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Friday. And even if Trump wins the
broader case, the takeover would be
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by law to just 30 days, unless Congress
votes to extend it, which Democratic
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leaders in both chambers have said
they'll refuse to do. Chuck Schumer even
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there's no fucking way he'll allow it.
Language I don't think the Baileys would
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approve of.
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And some Republicans, like Senator John
Kennedy, seem to think that they can
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capitalize on that to make Democrats
seem soft on crime.
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Mainstream Democrats have now come out
firmly and passionately in favor of
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in Washington, D .C. Chuck and Hakeem
need to go to Amazon, buy some
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and stand up to the moon's wing of their
party.
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I don't know which part is worse there,
telling someone to buy a pair of
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testicles or telling them to do so on
Amazon rather than from mom -and -pop
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testicle stores that are really
struggling right now.
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What I do know is that every time
Kennedy so much as hints at genitalia,
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contractually obliged to show you this.
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I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth.
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It is perfect.
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It is the perfect clip.
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We've shown you that clip on this show
six times now, and I promise you will be
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seeing it again.
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But to Kennedy's larger point, it is a
little hard to grow a set of balls from
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party whose members are all too eager to
run in front of cameras and talk about
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how they're too scared to wear seatbelts
or go outside.
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It is painfully clear that Trump is
doing this to boost his tough guy image
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his base, but that is going to be a
challenge.
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Because it is a tough sell for the man
who was friends with a child sex
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trafficker, brought about this mess, and
on Friday got steamrolled by a
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bloodthirsty warlord to convince
Americans that he is keeping them safe.
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would argue if anyone is making things
too dadgum dangerous in this country,
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it's probably fucking him right now.
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Now this.
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And now, more of Senator John Kennedy's
keen political analysis.
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They wouldn't know transparency if it
jumped up and yodeled and bit them in
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butt. I said one time, my car doesn't
run off of fairy dust and unicorn urine.
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Wasteful government spending, which I
call spending porn. There's an old
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exercise makes you look better naked,
but so does alcohol. Taking
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their advice is like...
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It's like taking the advice of a nun
about sex.
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But why don't we skip the foreplay and
go right to the sex?
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I trust Qatar like I trust a rest stop
bathroom.
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If they want to be friendly, I want to
be friendly back.
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Moving on. Our main story tonight
concerns health. It's something a lot of
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people are shocked to learn I have,
along with Peabody Awards, a viola I can
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actually play, and Eleanor Roosevelt's
bones.
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Specifically, it concerns the Maha
movement, which stands for Make America
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Healthy Again. It's most closely
associated with RFK Jr., who opened a
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about it last fall like this.
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Hey, everyone. I'm here today to tell
you how we can make America healthy
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And the first thing you need to do is
get one of these hats.
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Yeah, although you also...
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Don't actually need to do that at all.
You really don't have to do anything
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guy does, up to and including swim in a
sewage -tainted creek, hike in jeans in
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100 -degree weather, and single
-handedly make Google searches for bear
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skyrocket. The Maha movement is a broad
coalition of people with a wide array of
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concerns about health. And for many in
it, RFK's ascent has been seen as a
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thing, as has the fact that he's been
using his position to release videos
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this. This is a list of ingredients from
food.
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caragrinin, riboflavin, monosodium
glutamate, and 20 others that I can't
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pronounce. Sodium steroid, I think
you're getting the picture that you
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pronounce this stuff.
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Sodium gillionate, titanium dioxide,
polysorbate 80BHC,
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CBHQ. If you are an American company
poisoning us with ingredients you don't
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in other countries, we're coming for
you.
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Okay, so first, riboflavin is just
vitamin B2, but sure.
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Second, I'd love for the Secretary of
Education to be able to read. It's just
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personal preference.
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And finally, as long as we're
blacklisting foods based on bad names,
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some suggestions starting with kumquats,
a word that starts with cum and gets
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worse from there.
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Some of the non -administration figures
in that video are Maha moms and
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influencers who played a big role in
spreading this movement. Some have even
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been invited to the White House, like
this influencer back in May.
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So I am in D .C. for the big
announcement of the Maha chronic disease
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and I'm in podcasting. I podcast with
Bobby Kennedy.
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Everybody's in this room podcasting.
I've got a raw milk smoothie in here
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is raw milk, blueberries, honey, and
some raw meat, actually. I got some
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cherries, blueberries, apple.
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And that is my lunch in the White House.
So I'm eating raw milk, raw meat, grass
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-fed beef in the White House.
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Yeah, that is what the White House is up
to these days, hosting podcast
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symposiums for influencers to eat like
regionally powerful cavemen.
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That guy even got RFK to do a raw milk
shot on camera, making raw milk one of
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the most disgusting things floating
around in RFK at any given time, right
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there with that dead worm in his brain.
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But obviously, the Maha movement is
about a lot more than just hat selfies,
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slogans, and guzzling raw liquefied
beef.
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It is a big tent, and not all its
supporters are necessarily Republicans.
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Harping for after -school snack time at
Sarah Cho's house starts long before her
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children get home. Every ingredient.
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in this is organic the mother of three
is strict about what goes into her
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and her kids avoiding artificial and
processed ingredients she's part of the
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maha movement cho is a democrat she
lives in new jersey it's not a political
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issue it's an issue of do you want your
kids to get the best food or not do you
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want your kid to have the best
environment to live in Look, I admire
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commitment to serving only organic food,
but I will say, the day her kids get
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given a gush -up by a neighbourhood kid,
their lives are going to change
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forever. But I do get it. Ultimately,
everyone wants their kids to have the
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set of things. Good food, a good
environment, and zero desire to own
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You just want them to be safe, nurtured,
and you also want, maybe a little bit
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more, a guarantee that at no point will
there be any tarantulas in or around
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your house. Those are the things every
parent prays for, both to regular God
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whatever ancient spider God pertains to
the second thing. Oh, and happiness. You
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want them to be happy as well if there's
time.
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The point is...
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People have found themselves in Maha for
all sorts of reasons. There are areas
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where this movement has legitimate
concerns.
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We've done plenty of episodes dealing
with topics that overlap with the Maha
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agenda, and experts agree that there are
times when RFK and this movement are
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pointing out real problems. For
instance, one of the central claims he's
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that American kids are getting sicker,
which is largely correct.
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A major study published last month in
JAMA found, among other things, there's
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growing mortality gap between the US and
other developed countries, and that an
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American child was 15 to 20 % more
likely to have a chronic health
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2023 than in 2011.
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So for some, especially experts in diet
and nutrition, suddenly seeing the Maha
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movement bring attention to issues
they're passionate about has been
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if also bittersweet.
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Here is Dr. Marion Nessel, one of the
country's foremost experts on nutrition
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policy, summing that up.
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To hear RFK Jr.
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talk about the need to do something
about chronic diseases, you know, it's
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first time I've heard anybody at that
level of government talk about these
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things. And he sounds just like me.
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I can't get over it.
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And it's hard to put that together with
some of the other things you say.
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Right. It is bizarre to have someone you
virulently disagree with in most
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respects echo your opinions in another.
It'd be like if Kim Jong -un came out
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and said, Wirecutter has too many
articles now, and if you're looking at
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Wirecutter for, like, ketchup, you need
to reassess how you make decisions. It'd
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be weird.
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I mean, I would agree with him, but that
would be weird.
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Unfortunately, some of the other things
RFK is saying could now have massive
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consequences given the position that
he's in. Because even when he and his
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movement can be right about identifying
a problem, their solutions can range
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from the superficial to the outright
dangerous.
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So given that, tonight, let's check in
on the Maha movement and do a few
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Look at what it has and hasn't
accomplished so far, meet two key people
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top of it, and examine where, if we are
not very careful, we could be heading
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next. And let's start with the fact that
some of Maha's big wins so far have
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been wildly oversold. For instance, Coke
recently announced that it'd start
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selling drinks made with cane sugar.
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And when Shake and Shake announced it'd
offer Coke with that instead of corn
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syrup, RFK retweeted their post with,
Maha is winning, despite Marion Nestle
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referring to Coke's news as
nutritionally hilarious.
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He's also made a big deal out of getting
rid of synthetic food dyes, something
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prominent Maha influencers testified
about at a Senate roundtable.
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Many of the things discussed today, I
think there is a nuanced debate.
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But with artificial food dyes, they have
shown all over the world that they can
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use colorants that come from fruit. This
is the Canadian version.
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This is the brightness of the Canadian
version, just for visibility.
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And this is the brightness of artificial
food dyes.
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So, of course, Kellogg and other food
companies will argue children prefer
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over this.
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just as they would prefer cocaine over
sugar.
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First, I don't think kids like cocaine
more than sugar.
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I don't even think you could get a kid
to do cocaine unless you told them it
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sugar. And honestly, if what you're
concerned about is kids liking cocaine,
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food you need to focus your attention on
is picnic dick.
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A candidate seems to be explicitly
designed to teach them how to do a line
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the bathroom.
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I mean, it comes in a straw.
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And the theatrical gasp there when the
colourful fruit loops are revealed is a
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bit over the top. Guys, they're called
fruit with two O's loops.
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And their mascots are rainbow -nosed
toucan. Let's not get too shocked that
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colours aren't natural. Now, I should
say, there is literature to support that
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synthetic food dyes can impact
neurobehaviour in some children. And
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there is no real need to keep them, why
not take them out of foods?
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Totally fine.
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And when the US dairy industry agreed to
voluntarily remove synthetic dyes from
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ice cream, RFK touted it as another maha
win.
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Though, you should know, experts have
said small moves like that...
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won't actually move the needle when it
comes to Americans' health, which just
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makes sense, because removing dyes
doesn't address the fundamental issue
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ice cream, which is that it is ice
cream.
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A product with generally high sugar and
fat content, not to mention the other
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issues it presents, like the awkward
conversation every parent's forced to
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the first time their child asks to know
the meaning behind Ben and Jerry's
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caramel sutra. Well, you see, son...
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When two people truly love but have
grown quite tired of each other, they
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rediscover an emotional spark deep in
the raw power of prolonged mutual
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It was something I was kind of planning
on never having to explain to you, but
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it turns out the ice cream boys couldn't
think of another pun on the word
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caramel, so here we are.
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But making a big deal... out of narrow
winds is part and parcel of this
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movement. Take the woman you saw in that
roundtable, Vani Hari.
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She was also in that White House video
accusing companies of poisoning kids
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their ingredients. Hari is a food
blogger and author who goes by The Food
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and is an influential figure in the Maha
movement. And one of her specialities
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is zeroing in on a single scary
-sounding ingredient in common foods and
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pressuring companies to remove them.
Here is one of her early hits.
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Oh, hi there.
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I'm The Food Babe.
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Love yoga.
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It is so amazing for your body and
stress and well -being But it really
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make me really hungry Wake up people
take a look at the
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ingredients in Subway's nine grain bread
Did you know that one of them is the
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same ingredients found in yoga mat?
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Yeah She made a video calling out Subway
for serving shitty food something
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again. We also did Albeit over the
course of 21 minutes and culminating in
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Korean soap opera about love, betrayal
and meatballs.
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But the point is, in the end, Subway
announced it was in the process of
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that particular ingredient, which again,
I am not against.
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But let's try and keep that win in some
perspective here because Subway is still
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Subway. It's a place where all the food
is somehow wet.
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It sells cookies by the foot, and it
fully had a pedophile as a spokesman for
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years, and yet their food is still so
bad, it's not even the first thing that
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people criticise.
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But critics have long argued that some
of Hari's alerts about food are
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overblown, something she's responded to
by saying, I've never claimed to be a
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nutritionist, I'm an investigator. But
those investigations...
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have sometimes led to her going to some
deeply unscientific conclusions, like in
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a deleted post that she says wasn't her
most impressive work, where she
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cautioned against using microwaves by
referencing an experiment in which
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microwaved water produced a similar
physical structure to when the words
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and Hitler were repeatedly exposed to
the water, which is clearly ridiculous
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because it implies, one, that water can
read, two, That it doesn't like being
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microwaved, and perhaps most
importantly, that it not only knows who
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and what he did, but it did nothing to
stop him.
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Now, what is more, like many
influencers, Hari has her own product
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that sometimes her warnings about
particular ingredients can take a more
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-serving turn, like in this video,
warning about Chick -fil -A's frozen
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lemonade.
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of this sugar leads to weight gain and
serious health conditions such as heart
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disease and type 2 diabetes.
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It's thickened up with several nasty
emulsifiers like carrageenan that's
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to be contaminated with carcinogens and
monoendoglycerides that contain trans
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fats. Save yourself from this madness
and try our new Frosted Lemonade recipe
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made with Trubani's Lemon Cookie
Protein. Yeah, that seems a little bit
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compromised. And for what it's worth,
she actually shows you how to make her
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recipe in that video, and it looks
absolutely disgusting.
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It honestly looks like she just showed
it Hitler.
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And you might be thinking, well, who
cares if some of Marha's boosters can be
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wobbly on the science or are hawking
products, just so long as RFK's putting
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reliable people in charge at the top.
But I'd argue he isn't. Which brings us
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two key people, the brother and sister
duo of Callie and Katie Means. Callie is
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a top advisor to RFK, which makes sense
given, as he will tell you, he's the one
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who convinced Kennedy to join the
winning campaign.
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I was in a sweat tent with him in Austin
at a campaign event six months before,
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and I just had this strong vision of him
standing with Trump.
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And how what RFK represents is actually
what Trump represents, and actually what
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almost every American's feeling, which
is this frustration and this rigged
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and this stuff thing that doesn't quite
feel right, that you can't quite put
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your finger on.
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Okay, I hope this goes without saying,
but I would rather be anywhere on earth
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than in a sweat tent with RFK.
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I'd rather be in a dumpster full of
glass and cockroaches. I'd rather be in
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flight where half the passengers are
babies and half are Mel Gibsons.
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I'd rather be in Scottsdale.
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Scottsdale.
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Callie Means is constantly claiming the
whole system surrounding health and food
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is rigged. And one of his key bona fides
in arguing that is that he used to be
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involved in rigging it.
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He said that he was a lobbyist and
consultant, and that one of my big
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was the American Beverage Association,
which is the front group for Coke. Here
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is what he says he did there.
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Working for Coke, I helped steer money
to the American... Coca -Cola. Yeah,
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working for Coca -Cola, they actually
pay money to the American Diabetes
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Association.
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They actually pay money to the American
Academy of Pediatrics. If there's one
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thing the American Diabetes Association,
which sets the standard of care for
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diabetes management, is doing, they
should be saying, we're not going to
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money from Coke.
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Now, look, I'm not going to sit here and
argue that Coca -Cola is a good
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company. They are absolutely terrible,
to the point that if I told you they had
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a section on their Wikipedia page titled
Colombian Death Squad Allegations, you
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might even believe me, which is good,
because they actually do.
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But people who've looked into Cali's
origin story have come away with some,
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let's call them, questions.
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For starters, when reporters reached out
to the two firms where he worked, each
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insisted they didn't represent Coke or
its trade group at the time. Now, Callie
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insisted to us that he did do this work,
though not directly for Coke or the
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trade group, but for an unspecified
coalition that they funded and that he
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didn't name, which, as you'll note, is
already much less specific than what he
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confidently blew Tucker's mind with
there. And for what it is worth...
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Former colleagues of his have no idea
what he's talking about, with one
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maybe there was a six -month window when
we all blacked out, this client came
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in, and Callie became the whisperer
behind the scenes, plotting a supposedly
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nefarious role with soda executives.
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But one thing they definitely do
remember is that Callie Means apparently
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to walk around the office saying, Callie
Means Business.
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And I probably could have saved us a
whole lot of time if I'd just said that
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the start.
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I wouldn't have needed to show you the
Tucker appearance or even the RFK sweat
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tent detail if I just said, this is Cali
Means.
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And he apparently used to walk around
saying, Cali Means business.
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You would know all you need to know to
accurately conclude, he is a douche.
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Now, as for the justification...
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She has an MD and is now RFK's choice to
serve as Surgeon General. And she, too,
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is deeply steeped in the Maha world.
Here she is on the Grounded Wellness
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podcast enjoying a totally normal snack.
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I'm so excited to be here on your
beautiful farm.
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Oh, my gosh. I know. And we're drinking
liver smoothies. It's the first time
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you've ever tried a liver smoothie.
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And you're, like, almost done with it.
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I'm so glad.
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It's really good.
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No, it isn't.
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No, it isn't.
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Look, I think we, as a society, have
collectively lost our grasp of what
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smoothies are supposed to be.
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Because there should not be meat in
there, as that is definitionally no
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smoothie. It is hospital food for a
terminally ill hyena.
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Now, like her brother.
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Casey also has an eye -catching
backstory.
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In her case, it concerns how she became
disillusioned with the medical
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establishment because, in her telling,
while studying to become a doctor, she
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got frustrated she wasn't learning more
about the root causes of illness. So,
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quote, I walked into the office of the
chair of the department and I put down
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the scalpel and I walked away. And not
for nothing, is that how doctors quit?
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Because it kind of makes sense for cops
to hand in their badge and gun, but...
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I'd always assumed that if a doctor
wanted to quit, they'd just walk into
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boss's office, put a still -beating
heart down on the desk and say, I forgot
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where this goes.
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But obviously, that is a compelling
story, and it's a big part of the book
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co -wrote with her brother, Good Energy.
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In it, they tell the tragic story of how
their mother died of pancreatic cancer
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and say that she was let down by the
siloed medical system, which saw every
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health issue she faced as an isolated
incident. And look.
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Losing a parent is a terrible thing to
go through, and being let down by the
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medical system is something virtually
everybody can identify with.
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The thing is, the Meansies book wraps
that story into a much larger narrative
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about the importance of maintaining
metabolic health, or as the book calls
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good energy capitalised. And I'm not
saying metabolic health isn't a real
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or that it isn't important, but the
Meansies take it much further.
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Just listen to Callie making a huge
claim about the root cause of diseases.
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We are being lied to that cancer is
random, that dementia is random, that
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disease is random, that all these issues
that are killing us are random. They're
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not. They're all exploding, and they're
all tied essentially to food.
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Right, apparently, they're all tied to
food, and according to the Means's book,
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food is a massive part of maintaining
good energy. It actually contains a long
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list of processed foods, which they say
should be avoided as strongly as if they
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were illicit drugs, which includes
instant oatmeal, granola bars, crackers,
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packaged bread, canned soup, and
flavoured yoghurt. And look, I am not a
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scientist, despite my glasses and the
many hours I spend doing surgical
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procedures on mice, but I don't think
it's quite that simple.
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Most medical experts will tell you it's
not that health outcomes can't be
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impacted by personal behaviours or diet,
but health is complex and its
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components are personal, genetic,
environmental and systemic, on top of
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sometimes, and this is a technical term,
shit just happens and it's out of your
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control. And while the book mentions
other factors, its relentless focus on
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metabolic health suggests that if you
can simply maintain good energy, not
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can you enjoy the natural state of
fertility that is your birthright, but
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can live relieved of the nagging
anxiety, the precipitous physical or
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decline awaits you, or you'll develop a
disease that runs in the family.
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But it is hard not to read that and feel
like if you're having trouble
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conceiving or if you develop a genetic
condition, it's somehow your fault.
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And for what it's worth, for all the
means of abundance of caution around
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processed foods, there are other areas
where they are worryingly lax. For
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instance, Casey doesn't seem to favour
restrictions on selling raw milk,
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I want to be free to form a relationship
with a local farmer, understand his
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integrity, look him in the eyes, pet his
cow, and then decide if I feel safe to
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drink the milk from his farm, which
traditionally is not how you decide if
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is safe to drink, it's how you decide if
you want to fuck a dairy farmer.
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And it's worth noting.
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Raw milk can carry dangerous pathogens
such as salmonella, E. coli, and
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Listeria, and it's currently at the
center of an outbreak in Florida that
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sickened at least 21 people, including
six children under the age of 10.
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And Casey's also shared some pretty
concerning takes on vaccines, like when
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appeared with her brother on Joe Rogan's
podcast and said this.
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It's like with vaccines. It's like,
yeah, I bet that one vaccine probably
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causing autism. But what about the 20
that they're getting before 18 months?
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Like, we don't look at it in
synergistic, you know, and that's a big
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Yeah, that's not great. In fact, I will
go so far as to say that that is the
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most obviously horseshit thing Casey
Means has said since claiming that that
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smoothie was really good on the meat
juice farm cast hosted by what appeared
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be Pinterest's final boss.
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That feels really dangerous.
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As does the fact that her brother on
that same podcast said COVID was a
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foodborne illness and if you were
metabolically healthy, you did not die
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COVID, which I hope you know is just not
true.
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So that is worrying. And it's worth
noting that while the means is
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identify conflicts of interest in
medicine and public health as a real
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It is not like they are without
potential conflicts of their own. Not
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Casey's newsletter have sponsors from
supplements and products tied to the
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wellness industry, she also co -founded
a company called Levels. This is her
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photo, prominently featured on the
website today.
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The company promotes glucose monitoring
for non -diabetic healthy individuals.
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Despite the fact, researchers found
little evidence such monitoring provides
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health benefits for people without
diabetes.
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And while it's been reported that she's
left the company, all of this has
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understandably raised questions about
whether levels could benefit from this
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administration's health guidance and
policies. Because if, say, the
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started to push those monitors and means
did not fully divest, she would stand
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to benefit.
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And you'll never guess what. RFK,
despite spending years warning its
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that wearable devices like glucose
monitors were part of a sinister plan to
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surveil and control Americans, recently
went before Congress to say this.
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We're about to launch one of the biggest
advertising campaigns in HHS history to
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encourage Americans to use wearables. My
vision is that every American is
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wearing a wearable within four years. I
personally had friends who utterly
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changed their lives just from wearing a
glucose meter.
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And they've lost weight, they've lost
their diabetes, diagnoses, and you see
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this happen again and again.
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He's basically doing a product shill to
Congress there. And at that point, he
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00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:24,540
might as well just go full QVC and offer
to pair each glucose meter with a free
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aroma diffuser if you call in the next
ten minutes.
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And look, it would be one thing if these
two were just private citizens hawking
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books and products to a willing customer
base. But Callie is a top advisor at
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HHS. And it bears repeating, Casey is
poised to become the next Surgeon
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And they seem ready to place their
understanding of health, which can be
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and sometimes...
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callously centered on emphasizing
individual responsibility onto our
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health system as a whole, which is a
real concern.
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Just listen to Callie on C -SPAN earlier
this year. He mentioned how every
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American is capable of improving their
health outcomes just by eating less
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processed food. And a pretty basic
follow -up question from a caller set
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off. You mentioned about whole food,
whole food.
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Well... Explain to me, then, how are
people who are in food deserts going to
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able to get whole food? How are they
going to be able to get fresh vegetables
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some little shop somewhere that's
selling cigarettes, beer, and fast food?
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00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:29,530
All right, Judy. So just to confirm your
question, how can lower -income
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Americans possibly not poison their
kids? Is that your question?
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Her question was about food deserts. Her
question is a nihilistic question.
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Her question is what the left is saying.
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00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:48,760
Her question, no. Her question is, how
can lower -income Americans possibly not
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poison their children? Well, ma 'am, I
think American mothers don't want to be
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poisoning their kids. I think Americans
don't want to be poisoning themselves.
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00:32:57,780 --> 00:33:01,720
Okay, first, that was the most rancid
delivery of ma 'am, I think.
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I've ever heard. And second, she's
asking a legitimate question there about
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where people are supposed to get fresh
vegetables. It's not like she did
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something truly inflammatory, like, I
don't know, point out that Callie's wife
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and his sister look strikingly alike.
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00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:19,950
That would be worth really freaking out
about.
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But the thing is, Callie wasn't done,
and the more he talked...
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The clearer it became that there is a
lot about how our food system works that
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he doesn't seem to fully understand.
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The reason there are food deserts is
because the fourth largest entitlement
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program in the country is rigged through
tens of millions of dollars of lobbying
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spending by our food companies to be
totally going to addictive, ultra
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-processed food like soda and Twinkies.
That is what the $150 billion annually
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of our SNAP program does. So I will give
you a little secret.
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If President Trump and Bobby Kennedy are
able to take soda and Twinkies off of
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food stamps, the food deserts would
disappear because the food deserts are
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driven by the incentives of SNAP. Okay,
so look, we could talk about how food
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deserts came to be and why for many your
local dollar store may be the only
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grocery store in reach. We actually did
talk about that two years ago. We could
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also talk about how increasing SNAP
benefits will make it easier for
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afford fresh produce.
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but that removing processed food from
SNAP isn't likely to cause salad bars to
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instantly sprout up around the country.
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And while we are doing that, we should
probably talk about how your general
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of condescension there makes you a
pretty good candidate to be the next
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boy for condescending prick magazine.
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But let's leave all of that aside and
assume that Paddy means just wants every
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family to have access to fresh,
nutritious foods.
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Here's the thing about that.
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00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,860
There's actually a program that's been
trying to do that, and guess what just
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00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:56,880
happened to it?
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Yes, we can receive local shredded
carrots, cucumbers, lettuce, because we
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that we need to support people in our
own communities.
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00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:09,420
Jim Keaton runs the district's nutrition
plan, and so much of this produce comes
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from local growers under a USDA program
that's been cut by the Trump
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administration. Some of that food is
grown here at Pine Knot Farms, about an
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hour's drive from Riverside High.
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00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,220
Linda Leach Hughes keeps the books.
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How are you going to make America great
again if you're taking food out of the
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mouth of babies, senior citizens,
nursing homes, rehab centers, hospitals,
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00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:39,680
all of these agencies that are dependent
on federal dollars?
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How are you going to make America great
again?
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Yeah, good point, Linda.
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And I love everything about that from
her precision in calling out this
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administration to the fact that she
clearly takes absolutely no shit.
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And I'll just say this, in general, if
there is a woman in charge of your
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named Linda, I bet it's run like the
fucking Navy.
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If you walk in and Linda is at her desk,
ponytail tight and quick books open,
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drop to your knees and praise the Lord,
you are in good hands.
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But the point is...
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This administration cancelled a billion
dollars in funding for schools and food
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banks to buy food from local suppliers.
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And at the same time, it made cuts to
SNAP eligibility, meaning there are
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recipients of free breakfast and lunch
at school, which I guess is one way to
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accomplish Maher's goals. Kids can't eat
any food dyes if they're not eating
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anything. And that is the thing.
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Whatever cosmetic gains Maher has won
since Trump took office have been more
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than offset by massive losses elsewhere.
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Which brings us to our final point.
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What comes next?
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Because it could be a lot.
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We talked earlier this year about the
massive defunding of scientific research
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that's occurred, but that is just the
beginning. Recently, you may have seen
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that HHS is winding down its mRNA
vaccine development activities, which
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have a grave public health impact.
They've already revoked a contract to
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a vaccine against bird flu, and there
are real concerns that this could impact
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the promising research into developing
mRNA vaccines for other infectious
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diseases like HIV, or even using them to
treat cancer.
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One infectious disease researcher has
called this the most dangerous public
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health decision I've ever seen made by a
government body.
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And that's by no means the only attack
on vaccines. In June, RFK fired everyone
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on the Advisory Committee for
Immunisation Practices, which meets
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establish vaccination recommendations.
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They're a very important body because,
among other things, insurers usually
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to cover the vaccines that they
recommend.
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Since then, RFK has announced the
appointment of seven new members, only
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whom was a widely recognised expert in
vaccines. And some are a real who's uh
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-oh of crackpots, including Robert
Malone, who's claimed that millions of
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Americans were hypnotised into taking
the COVID -19 shots and has suggested
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booster shots cause a form of AIDS.
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And if that wasn't bad enough, which it
very much is, there may soon be a
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similar attack on an obscure but
critical corner of our health system.
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Health Secretary RFK Jr.
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is planning to fire every member of an
influential task force that decides what
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preventive health services must be
covered by insurance at no cost to
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So that includes everything from cancer
screening to HIV prevention.
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Now, Kennedy, the source says, plans to
out all 16 members for being, quote, too
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woke. Oh, come on! Too woke?
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That doesn't even mean anything anymore.
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But I guess if that is the reason, we
can look forward to the new members of
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that task force being Joe Camel, Kid
Rock, J .K. Rowling, and a glass of
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that somehow doesn't mind Hitler.
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Suffice to say, this is a bleak time.
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to be involved with public health. And I
haven't even mentioned the horrific
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00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:53,330
shooting at the CDC campus last week,
where nearly 500 bullets were fired at
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buildings by a man who apparently
subscribed to conspiracies about the
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vaccine. And it is frankly not ideal
that RFK didn't issue an official
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00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:07,330
on it till this tweet the next day,
which only came after he posted photos
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00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:11,830
the fishing trip he was on, which is
just shockingly insensitive. You are the
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00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:12,830
head of the agency.
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00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:17,710
People need to hear from you in a
crisis. You can't be posting pictures of
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00:39:17,710 --> 00:39:20,370
yourself holding fish like you're a dude
on Tinder.
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Save those for your text to reporters.
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00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:27,610
And beyond RFK's leadership of his own
agency, it's worth noting that the
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administration that he's a part of is
taking a buzzsaw to so many of Maha's
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00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:33,570
stated priorities.
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And to be fair, that is something that
some influencers who've been supportive
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of RFK in the past have been trying to
point out.
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What are the things about the Make
America Healthy Again movement that
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you? Like cleaning up our food in
America is going to require more
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And so I'm just not understanding how
we're going to clean up our food through
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regulation in an administration that ran
on deregulation.
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00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:00,230
Right.
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Regulation is the exact opposite of
everything Trump stands for. He's about
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likely to embrace regulation as he is to
put an In This House sign on the White
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00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:10,510
House lawn.
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Why would you think he would do that?
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And sadly, she is right to worry, as
this administration has unleashed some
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catastrophes for public health, from the
projected $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts
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over the next decade, to Trump's EPA
delaying implementing a new standard to
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limit the dangerous chemical PFAS in
drinking water, to its efforts to
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the long -standing finding that
greenhouse gas emissions endanger human
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removing the legal foundation for all US
greenhouse gas regulations.
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And look, it is maddening.
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That for the first time in recent
memory, there has been a genuine
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of support for a cleaner, healthier,
less corporately controlled America, but
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it's taken this fucking form.
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Because for the final time, it is
absolutely legitimate to want America to
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healthier, and there are clearly
systemic problems when it comes to
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health. But these just aren't the
solutions.
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00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,240
Remember that major JAMA report that I
mentioned earlier about increases to
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child mortality and illness?
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00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:10,500
An editorial published alongside it
included a list of policy
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including investing in anti -poverty
measures, broadening health insurance
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00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:18,720
coverage, investing in primary care, and
passing firearm safety laws, which is
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00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,400
clearly pretty fucking far from what
this administration is doing.
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00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,780
Instead, they are shredding the social
safety net while elevating voices that
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push the responsibility for health down
to the individual. I guess...
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00:41:30,570 --> 00:41:35,730
What I'm really saying here is, in its
current form, Maha is not about making
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America healthy again. At best, it is
about laundering the reputation of an
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administration that is doing the exact
opposite.
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And for those in this movement that
truly are concerned about public health,
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would argue that they should be going
after these guys with, at the very
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the same kind of outrage that they
typically reserve for fucking Froot
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And now, this.
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And now, the song of the summer.
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I can't wait, wait.
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I can't wait, wait.
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I can't wait, wait.
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I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth. I can't wait, wait.
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I can't wait to have cock, cock, cock,
cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock
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in my mouth. I can't wait, wait.
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I can't wait, wait.
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00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,800
I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth.
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Your mama. I got a new strap -on harness
to wear.
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It will fit my favorite dildo perfectly.
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You're going to look so hot.
667
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Cock. So hot.
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Cock. So hot. Cock.
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Cock. Cock. Cock in my mouth. I can't
wait. I can't wait.
670
00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:02,550
I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth.
671
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:31,270
I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth.
672
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In my mouth.
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That's our show. Thanks so much for
watching. We're off in the next couple
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weeks. We're back September 7th. Good
night.
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I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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I can't wait to have your cock in my
mouth.
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In my mouth.
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I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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This was my ass.
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