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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,063 --> 00:00:02,760 (dramatic music) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:05,530 Two sig runes, 4 00:00:05,530 --> 00:00:09,396 the symbol for the Schutzstaffel, the SS. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,396 --> 00:00:12,146 (dramatic music) 7 00:00:15,070 --> 00:00:17,513 It was rugged. It was aggressive. 8 00:00:18,690 --> 00:00:21,790 They stand for terror and depression, 9 00:00:21,790 --> 00:00:24,653 for the most serious crimes against humanity. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,053 What is so fascinating about that jagged S? 11 00:00:31,514 --> 00:00:34,264 (dramatic music) 12 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,060 They had black pennants 13 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:40,560 with a sig rune on them, I thought that was great. 14 00:00:42,690 --> 00:00:44,840 The runes supposedly have their origins 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 among the Teutons, the people of the North, 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,163 considered by the Nazis to be a superior race. 17 00:00:54,820 --> 00:00:57,360 The SS rune stands for Germanic culture, 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,163 which the Nazis wanted to convey as part of their myth. 19 00:01:01,330 --> 00:01:03,270 But the symbol of the SS has, 20 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:05,713 of all things, a Semitic origin. 21 00:01:07,330 --> 00:01:10,170 And those sig runes are still used today, 22 00:01:10,170 --> 00:01:12,040 for instance in popular music, 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,040 in order to cause a sensation, and with right wing radicals. 24 00:01:17,150 --> 00:01:19,440 They sometimes use it in a modified form 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,013 to avoid prosecution, but also present it unaltered. 26 00:01:27,220 --> 00:01:29,640 Today they're used to symbolize strength. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,253 It says we're prepared to use violence. 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,130 So how should Germany 29 00:01:35,130 --> 00:01:37,890 deal with the old runes of the SS? 30 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:39,853 Is a ban the correct approach? 31 00:01:44,220 --> 00:01:46,130 You can ban symbols, but the conviction 32 00:01:46,130 --> 00:01:48,693 itself has to come about through democratic means. 33 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:52,730 The signs of evil, 34 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:55,573 the work of an impoverished graphic designer. 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,469 We go on the trail of the history of a dangerous symbol. 36 00:02:00,469 --> 00:02:03,302 (dramatic music) 37 00:02:14,580 --> 00:02:17,930 East Westphalia, the heartland of ancient Gamalia. 38 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:21,023 It's a focus for delusions of race and native soil. 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,980 The Externsteine, 40 meters high, 40 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:27,430 became a Germanic sacred site. 41 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:29,770 And Hermann, the Cherusk, became a symbol 42 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:31,793 of the superiority of the German race. 43 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:38,490 The Wewelsburg was of special interest to the Nazis. 44 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:41,000 The Renaissance structure, once a Bishop's palace, 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,960 simply needed the right history. 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,223 And SS historians obliged. 47 00:02:46,110 --> 00:02:47,440 The Wewelsburg was declared 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,503 to supposedly have ancient Germanic heritage. 49 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:58,300 Immediately after visiting for the first time, 50 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,040 SS Commander Heinrich Himmler 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,453 made it the headquarters of his black order. 52 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:07,170 The marshal new nobility, as Himmler called the SS, 53 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:09,303 was to have a kind of Camelot here. 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,632 (speaking in foreign language) 55 00:03:14,632 --> 00:03:16,022 The SS considered itself 56 00:03:16,022 --> 00:03:17,410 to be the avant-garde, and assumed that 57 00:03:17,410 --> 00:03:20,424 the majority of Germans were not mature enough. 58 00:03:20,424 --> 00:03:22,520 That applied to their horrible racist policies, 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,810 their murderous policies, 60 00:03:23,810 --> 00:03:25,933 as well as to their bizarre cultic ideas. 61 00:03:28,970 --> 00:03:31,380 Himmler's castle was only the beginning. 62 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:33,870 The village of Wewelsburg was to be moved, 63 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:36,440 and the castle complex was to provide space for 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,913 an SS Academy, an elite school for the master race. 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,583 Construction was set to start after the final victory. 66 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:52,030 Himmler gradually expanded the power and size of the SS. 67 00:03:52,030 --> 00:03:54,600 Out of Adolph Hitler's household and security guards, 68 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,360 Himmler created a state within a state. 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,310 The SS took over control of the police, 70 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:01,130 and the concentration camps. 71 00:04:01,130 --> 00:04:03,633 Later, it unleashed the Holocaust. 72 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:08,480 Himmler, who was shy 73 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,640 and very introverted was, if you will, 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,670 the ideal hand of a secret police 75 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:15,593 and operators of repression that operated covertly. 76 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:20,950 The genocide began on the Eastern Front. 77 00:04:20,950 --> 00:04:23,340 a Memorial on the Northern outskirts of Kiev 78 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:26,763 commemorates one of the worst SS crimes of 1941. 79 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:29,200 In the ravine at Babi Yar, 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,220 33,000 Jews were shot dead over two days. 81 00:04:33,220 --> 00:04:34,833 A survivor remembers. 82 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:39,090 They had to lie face down on the bodies 83 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:42,383 of the murdered, and wait for the shots from above. 84 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:44,763 Then came the next group. 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,709 Jews died for 36 hours. 86 00:04:48,709 --> 00:04:52,180 (contemplative music) 87 00:04:52,180 --> 00:04:53,530 The runes were the symbol 88 00:04:53,530 --> 00:04:55,190 uniting the perpetrators. 89 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,910 They consider themselves guardians of blood purity. 90 00:04:58,910 --> 00:05:02,583 Ultimately, the SS would have 800,000 members. 91 00:05:05,667 --> 00:05:09,584 (speaking in foreign language) 92 00:05:11,637 --> 00:05:12,670 They were mobilized by propaganda 93 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:16,000 that states we are superior to the others. 94 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,050 But for that they need someone 95 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:19,003 who is unequivocally beneath them. 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,120 And the antisemitic insanity, the world conspiracy theories, 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,210 led to an explosion of violent excess. 98 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:29,290 And within the framework of this dynamic, 99 00:05:29,290 --> 00:05:31,863 symbols like this help. 100 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:38,270 Graphic artist, Walter Heck from the Rhineland 101 00:05:38,270 --> 00:05:40,940 develop the double rune in 1929. 102 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:42,190 Later he wrote... 103 00:05:44,810 --> 00:05:47,280 The initial designs were unsuccessful, 104 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,380 because I didn't like the soft lines of the customary S, 105 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:53,600 which also did not at all correspond 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,593 to the character of the Schutzstaffel. 107 00:05:58,690 --> 00:06:01,460 I had the idea of representing the two S's 108 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:03,920 in the form of two lightning bolts. 109 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,573 And so unconsciously, came upon the runes. 110 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,110 It was the birth of the SS symbol. 111 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:16,710 Heck himself was an SS First Lieutenant, 112 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:19,840 and kept his head above water with casual labor. 113 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,190 He got this assignment through Yusef Guray, 114 00:06:22,190 --> 00:06:24,283 the Director of Southern Rheinland. 115 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:28,330 Considering the later significance of the SS runes, 116 00:06:28,330 --> 00:06:32,493 his payment was modest, just two and a half reichsmarks. 117 00:06:33,952 --> 00:06:36,702 (dramatic music) 118 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Walter Heck completely relinquished 119 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,910 the rights to his design. 120 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:45,130 Five years later, 121 00:06:45,130 --> 00:06:47,660 once Himmler had eliminated all of his rivals, 122 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:49,890 the jagged lightning bolts came to signify 123 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:53,033 the terror spread by the self-proclaimed Arian elite. 124 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:02,690 Victor Klemperer, a journalist from a Jewish family, 125 00:07:02,690 --> 00:07:05,220 closely observed the signs of that time. 126 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:06,110 He wrote... 127 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Long before the Nazi SS existed, 128 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,330 you could see the symbols in red paint 129 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:17,570 on transformer sheds with a warning below. 130 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:19,543 Danger, high voltage. 131 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:23,560 Here the jagged S was apparently 132 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,933 a stylized image of a lightning bolt. 133 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:30,680 Lightning, which in its energy storage and speed 134 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,847 is such a beloved symbol of Nazism. 135 00:07:35,011 --> 00:07:36,180 So the SS characters could also be 136 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:38,503 a pictorial expression of lightning. 137 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:43,044 (dramatic music) 138 00:07:50,918 --> 00:07:52,110 (speaking in foreign language) 139 00:07:52,110 --> 00:07:54,120 The SS rune has aggression in it. 140 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,179 In the it's designed, it stands for 141 00:07:56,179 --> 00:07:57,730 the lightening bolts that it transmits, 142 00:07:57,730 --> 00:08:00,670 but also for the Germanic, which the national socialists 143 00:08:00,670 --> 00:08:02,520 wanted to convey in the form of myth. 144 00:08:04,970 --> 00:08:06,400 Runes were the written characters 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,360 of the Germanic peoples. 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,830 Starting around 200 AD, they were carved into wood or stone. 147 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:15,580 They were used to inscribe objects, such as coins, 148 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:18,932 gifts, burial objects, and memorials. 149 00:08:18,932 --> 00:08:22,182 (contemplative music) 150 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:29,830 Many Germanic tribes had different runes. 151 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:33,210 They stood for sounds and meanings, but also for numbers, 152 00:08:33,210 --> 00:08:36,840 and supposedly also contained magical energy. 153 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,220 From the point of view of the cultivated Romans, 154 00:08:39,220 --> 00:08:41,783 the Teutons seemed backwards. 155 00:08:41,783 --> 00:08:44,950 (contemplative music) 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,567 The Teutons were barbarians, 157 00:08:47,567 --> 00:08:49,750 and the ones who lacked a culture. 158 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:50,750 They were the primitives 159 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:53,000 who just scratched out a few things in runes. 160 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,340 The Romans had long had 161 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:58,310 a complex written language in which, 162 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:59,880 like the Persians and Greeks, 163 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,763 they wrote documents and literature. 164 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:05,050 They looked down on the barbarians in the North, 165 00:09:05,050 --> 00:09:07,463 whom they considered to be simple savages. 166 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:15,090 Today, only a few experts are truly familiar 167 00:09:15,090 --> 00:09:17,883 with the runic characters of the Germanic tribes. 168 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:23,450 Professor Klaus Duwel from Goettingen provides 169 00:09:23,450 --> 00:09:25,520 an example of how the comparatively 170 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,559 primitive writing can be interpreted. 171 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,726 (contemplative music) 172 00:09:34,273 --> 00:09:36,098 (speaking in foreign language) 173 00:09:36,098 --> 00:09:36,960 This stone says, 174 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,823 King Sven had this stone set for Scarfee, his lead man. 175 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,033 It reads up here, then down, up again, then down again. 176 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:49,800 And he traveled far to the West, 177 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,003 and died here near High Tabu. 178 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,370 Historically, all Germanic languages 179 00:09:56,370 --> 00:09:58,590 come from the Proto-Germanic. 180 00:09:58,590 --> 00:10:00,880 That's supposedly the origin of the word 181 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,003 runo or rune, which means secret. 182 00:10:06,385 --> 00:10:10,302 (speaking in foreign language) 183 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:24,223 But researchers are still 184 00:10:24,223 --> 00:10:26,750 unsure about the origin of runes. 185 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:30,640 Of the 6,500 runic inscriptions that have been found so far, 186 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,050 several are based on an alphabet with 24 letters. 187 00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:36,533 They are related to other European writing. 188 00:10:37,471 --> 00:10:40,721 (contemplative music), 189 00:10:41,677 --> 00:10:42,870 (speaking in foreign language) 190 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:44,880 Basically, there are four major theories 191 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,880 that ascribed the runic writing system 192 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,983 to one of the Southern European alphabets. 193 00:10:51,646 --> 00:10:54,000 By the Greek, Latin, Etruscan, or, 194 00:10:55,070 --> 00:10:57,890 and that has been investigated again in the modern era, 195 00:10:57,890 --> 00:10:59,343 directly to Phoenician. 196 00:11:02,285 --> 00:11:05,180 (contemplative music) 197 00:11:05,180 --> 00:11:07,040 Whatever route runic writing took 198 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,340 until it arrived among the peoples in the North, 199 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:13,570 whether it came to the Teutons from the Etruscans, 200 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:16,500 ancient Rome, or ancient Greece, 201 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:19,200 it's origin is most likely Phoenecian. 202 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,490 The cradle of all European written language, 203 00:11:23,490 --> 00:11:27,560 including Germanic runic scripts, lies in the Middle East 204 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,573 in what is today Syria, Lebanon, and Israel, 205 00:11:32,410 --> 00:11:36,242 a small strip along the East coast of the Mediterranean sea. 206 00:11:36,242 --> 00:11:38,992 (dramatic music) 207 00:11:43,530 --> 00:11:45,700 The Phoenicians were a seafaring people 208 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:48,700 who influenced the world of the Mediterranean for centuries. 209 00:11:50,730 --> 00:11:53,470 They belonged to the family of Semitic peoples, 210 00:11:53,470 --> 00:11:57,040 and considered themselves descendants of Abraham. 211 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,790 (dramatic music) 212 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:02,220 Did Heinrich Himmler, 213 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:04,913 and his Germanic racists know all of that? 214 00:12:08,090 --> 00:12:11,310 Probably not, as the researchers of the 1930s 215 00:12:11,310 --> 00:12:14,163 still knew very little about the history of languages. 216 00:12:18,090 --> 00:12:21,400 So it is a cruel irony of fate that perpetrators 217 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,390 of the Holocaust carried out that murderous campaigns 218 00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:27,795 while wearing insignia with Semitic roots. 219 00:12:27,795 --> 00:12:31,180 (dramatic music) 220 00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:32,690 But for scholars today, 221 00:12:32,690 --> 00:12:35,263 runes remain a worthwhile subject of research. 222 00:12:39,950 --> 00:12:41,270 Runes are exceptional, 223 00:12:41,270 --> 00:12:44,680 in that they have both a name and a meaning. 224 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,930 This dual aspect of the runes 225 00:12:46,930 --> 00:12:49,783 as letters and as symbols is unique. 226 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:54,590 The M rune stands for the letter M, 227 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:56,703 but also for the word for person. 228 00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:00,290 The S rune stands for the letter S, 229 00:13:00,290 --> 00:13:02,940 but also for the word for sun. 230 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:04,930 The Teutons themselves could not explain 231 00:13:04,930 --> 00:13:07,000 where their graphic characters came from. 232 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,380 They attributed magical powers to the characters, 233 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:12,780 and told stories about their energy and power. 234 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:15,380 A few literate people feared the characters power, 235 00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:16,863 and change their names. 236 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,060 Klaus Duwel demonstrates using 237 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:21,963 the example of a clothing clasp. 238 00:13:25,118 --> 00:13:26,769 (speaking in foreign language) 239 00:13:26,769 --> 00:13:27,602 The name of the person 240 00:13:27,602 --> 00:13:30,206 who made this inscription is hidden here. 241 00:13:30,206 --> 00:13:32,840 So that it's magic would not work on him, 242 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,630 we suspect that he altered his name. 243 00:13:35,630 --> 00:13:39,347 He should be called Boriso, but what's written is Buyiso. 244 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:43,580 (dramatic music) 245 00:13:46,650 --> 00:13:47,930 The runes have yet 246 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:49,853 to reveal all of their secrets. 247 00:13:52,379 --> 00:13:53,760 Runology is characterized 248 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,810 by a number of open questions. 249 00:13:55,810 --> 00:13:58,243 So basically there's a lot we don't yet know. 250 00:13:59,387 --> 00:14:00,320 And that leads to lay people 251 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,293 and enthusiastic getting involved. 252 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:06,600 That includes fantasists, 253 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,530 like the so-called folkish movement. 254 00:14:09,530 --> 00:14:12,400 Aggressively antisemitic, this populous movement 255 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,810 laid the groundwork in the late 19th century 256 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:16,563 for that which was to come later. 257 00:14:17,740 --> 00:14:19,720 Guido von List was one of them. 258 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,853 He believed in supernatural messages. 259 00:14:24,078 --> 00:14:26,230 (speaking in foreign language) 260 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:27,130 During an illness, 261 00:14:27,130 --> 00:14:30,280 when he nearly went blind, Guido von List 262 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,280 had an inspiration, an intuition, perhaps also a vision. 263 00:14:37,229 --> 00:14:40,560 And he said that showed him this runic alphabet. 264 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,500 (speaking in foreign language) 265 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,730 Guido von List coined the term siegrune. 266 00:14:46,730 --> 00:14:48,863 It's a neologism by a charlatan. 267 00:14:51,470 --> 00:14:52,850 You can't completely deny 268 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:55,480 that we're dealing with runic forms. 269 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,710 But he combined these runic forms, and above all, 270 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,610 changed them and gave them fake names by assigning the runes 271 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:05,620 designations that sounded like the real ones, 272 00:15:05,620 --> 00:15:06,920 but were slightly changed. 273 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:10,740 With Guido von List, 274 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:12,760 terms that the Nazis end up adopting 275 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,110 are mixed with crude ideas about Germanic culture. 276 00:15:16,110 --> 00:15:18,100 It's a mixture that was then turned against 277 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:21,713 the supposed, root of all evil, against Jews. 278 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:27,886 (speaking in foreign language) 279 00:15:27,886 --> 00:15:28,719 The folkish thinkers 19th century 280 00:15:29,570 --> 00:15:32,640 undertook a racist, folkish reinterpretation 281 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,070 of the entire runic system. 282 00:15:35,070 --> 00:15:38,160 The Nazis incorporated it, because it fitted in 283 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,463 very well with their so-called ideology. 284 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:46,180 To that end, scholars at 285 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:49,200 the University of Goettingen were brought into line. 286 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,030 Starting in 1938, 287 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:53,863 there was a dedicated Institute of Runology. 288 00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:57,720 The faculty were meant to provide proof 289 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,380 for the belief at the core of the Nazi madness, 290 00:16:00,380 --> 00:16:02,823 the superiority of the Germanic race. 291 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,020 They asserted that it wasn't 292 00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:10,580 the Greeks, Romans, or Phoenicians 293 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:12,990 who invented written language, but the Teutons. 294 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,620 Back in 1935, Himmler had created 295 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:19,680 an ancestral heritage research team, 296 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,270 to which he appointed dubious experts 297 00:16:22,270 --> 00:16:25,603 more motivated by ideology than serious scholarship. 298 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,590 Many of them were esotericists and occultists. 299 00:16:32,590 --> 00:16:36,203 They dug, grave robbed, and reinterpreted. 300 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,320 To them simple ornamentation 301 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,060 was enough to prove an ideology. 302 00:16:43,060 --> 00:16:45,700 And if they couldn't find the proof they wanted, 303 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:47,523 sometimes they helped it along. 304 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:54,910 In 1938, Himmler sent his men to the roof of the world. 305 00:16:54,910 --> 00:16:57,623 They were meant to find traces of the Aryans in Tibet. 306 00:16:58,470 --> 00:17:01,420 Himmler imagined them as descendants of a civilization 307 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:04,293 that survived the downfall of Atlantis in the Himalayas. 308 00:17:07,610 --> 00:17:10,080 The expedition found that the Tibetan nobility 309 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,210 especially showed Aryan elements, and were certainly suited 310 00:17:14,210 --> 00:17:16,503 to be a partner people to the Germans. 311 00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:24,930 (speaking in foreign language) 312 00:17:24,930 --> 00:17:26,300 Of course, Himmler lived in part 313 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:28,240 in a fantasy world that was dominated 314 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,870 by those sorts of Germanic myths, and occult topics. 315 00:17:31,870 --> 00:17:33,760 But one mustn't overlook the fact that 316 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,640 even with all these private hobbies, 317 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,470 he by no means neglected the power political realities 318 00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:41,197 he had to deal with as SS Vice Fuhrer. 319 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:45,850 The SS Vice Fuhrer loved to surround himself 320 00:17:45,850 --> 00:17:50,850 with willing henchman, those included Karl Maria Wiligut, 321 00:17:50,980 --> 00:17:54,837 an a cultist from Austria with supposed psychic abilities. 322 00:17:59,098 --> 00:18:00,520 Himmler believed that in Wiligut 323 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,200 he had found a descendant of an ancient clan, 324 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,650 in which ancient knowledge had been 325 00:18:04,650 --> 00:18:06,730 handed down through the generations. 326 00:18:06,730 --> 00:18:09,200 So when he dealt with him, and asked him questions 327 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,330 he believed that he was thus able to communicate 328 00:18:11,330 --> 00:18:13,253 with the Germanic primeval world. 329 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:18,090 The SS Brigadier General became 330 00:18:18,090 --> 00:18:20,593 Himmler's advisor for symbols and ceremonies. 331 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,100 Wiligut was also able to work as a designer. 332 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:29,883 The notorious skull ring was his creation. 333 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,200 He also had the rendering removed from 334 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,460 the outer walls of the Wewelsburg, 335 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:37,963 in order to make it look more Germanic. 336 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:46,520 But in 1939, Karl Maria Wiligut had to leave the SS. 337 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,490 He had failed to reveal the fact that he was 338 00:18:48,490 --> 00:18:51,160 an escaped patient from an insane asylum. 339 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,690 Nonetheless, Himmler continued to maintain 340 00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:55,193 a discreet contact with him. 341 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:01,640 The Nazis didn't care so much 342 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,750 about demonstrating a development. 343 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:05,890 Rather they wanted to prove above all, 344 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:08,673 that history was based on the permanence of races. 345 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:12,393 Investigating the past was meant to prove 346 00:19:12,393 --> 00:19:14,743 that there is a superior race in human history. 347 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,910 The SS was meant to wage war, 348 00:19:19,910 --> 00:19:23,170 not only for the state, but for the Aryan race. 349 00:19:23,170 --> 00:19:26,680 That included especially fanatical frontline combat units, 350 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,460 as well as task forces for killing Jews, 351 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:32,457 and the units assigned to the death camps. 352 00:19:32,457 --> 00:19:35,207 (dramatic music) 353 00:19:36,430 --> 00:19:40,080 What they all had in common was the SS runes. 354 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,163 They were a form of identification. 355 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:45,290 In his messages to the front, 356 00:19:45,290 --> 00:19:48,250 the leadership of the SS Senior District Southwest 357 00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:50,853 expressed his enthusiasm for the symbols. 358 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:53,630 It's not for nothing that 359 00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:55,300 the sig runes on the black lapels 360 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,890 of the Waffen SS seems so mysterious, 361 00:19:57,890 --> 00:20:00,430 and yet are so simple to interpret. 362 00:20:00,430 --> 00:20:03,803 Victory. Again and again, victory. 363 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,300 Soon, the double lightening bolts 364 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:09,250 are given their own key on typewriters. 365 00:20:14,485 --> 00:20:16,480 The trademark of the supposed Nazi elite 366 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,780 is to be typed in a Germanic style, 367 00:20:18,780 --> 00:20:20,583 even in official documents. 368 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:27,640 The fact that the symbol of the SS, 369 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,020 the double sig rune was made a character 370 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:32,023 on typewriters is unprecedented. 371 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,520 The new key was also meant 372 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,210 to help make typing more efficient. 373 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:40,700 Since the occupation of areas in the East, 374 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:42,523 the bureaucracy had swelled. 375 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:46,853 The runes of the SS became seen more commonly in Germany. 376 00:20:47,831 --> 00:20:50,400 (speaking in foreign language) 377 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,928 People began to notice that apparently 378 00:20:51,928 --> 00:20:54,640 those wearing this label were allowed to do things 379 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,040 that a government is normally not allowed to do. 380 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,250 And this label was in great demand. 381 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:04,523 It represented power and advantages. 382 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,033 There was also an opposite label, 383 00:21:10,905 --> 00:21:13,290 and that was the yellow Jewish badge. 384 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:15,793 Those who had to wear that were nothing. 385 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,133 They had no power. 386 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,203 They were vermin to be eliminated. 387 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,500 Victor Klemperer observed 388 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,483 the coarsening of German society. 389 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,713 He wrote... 390 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,670 Today I asked myself again, 391 00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:37,963 which was the worst day for the Jews? 392 00:21:38,850 --> 00:21:42,150 September 19th, 1941. 393 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:45,780 From that day on, they had to wear the yellow badge. 394 00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:47,440 Now that it's been introduced, 395 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,680 it doesn't matter anymore if Jewish homes are far apart, 396 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,610 or form their own neighborhood, because every Jew 397 00:21:53,610 --> 00:21:56,470 with a yellow star carries the ghetto with them, 398 00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:58,203 like a snail with its shell. 399 00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:04,060 Victor Klemperer, son of a rabbi 400 00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:07,360 survived the Nazi regime thanks to the help of his wife, 401 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,833 considered Aryan in Nazi parlance. 402 00:22:13,885 --> 00:22:15,200 (dramatic music) 403 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,230 Gefreiter Joseph Growe put in a good word for the creator 404 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:21,203 of the SS symbol, graphic artist Walter Heck. 405 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,770 Growe asked Himmler for some money 406 00:22:25,770 --> 00:22:28,050 for the impoverished designer, arguing that 407 00:22:28,050 --> 00:22:31,463 such a deserving comrade should not come away empty handed. 408 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,470 Growe wrote... 409 00:22:36,090 --> 00:22:37,560 Despite his plight, 410 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,915 Heck did not lay claim to any copyright, 411 00:22:39,915 --> 00:22:42,423 and agreed to a very small payment. 412 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,293 He got two and a half reichsmarks. 413 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,740 It should be taken under consideration whether 414 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:52,300 SS-Oberfuhrer, Walter Heck 415 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:54,303 could not be accorded recognition. 416 00:22:56,125 --> 00:22:59,292 (contemplative music) 417 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:02,780 SS Leader, Himmler 418 00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:04,660 wanted to show his gratitude. 419 00:23:04,660 --> 00:23:07,323 Four months later, he wrote to Walter Heck. 420 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:10,380 Once the war is over, 421 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:12,660 I intend to give you a single family house, 422 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:16,143 with a garden, as a visible sign of my appreciation. 423 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:19,550 However, I expect you to have already 424 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:23,003 started a family by then, with at least two children. 425 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:28,980 Shortly before that, Himmler had ordered 426 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:31,620 his highest officers to Wewelsburg. 427 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:33,790 He wants to prepare them for what was being called 428 00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:35,223 a struggle of annihilation. 429 00:23:36,481 --> 00:23:38,100 (speaking in foreign language) 430 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:39,380 A few days before the start 431 00:23:39,380 --> 00:23:41,600 of the Russia offensive, there was a meeting 432 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760 at Wewelsburg of high ranking SS leaders, 433 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,990 who where be put in the mood, so to speak, 434 00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:50,253 for the imminent historic war against the Soviet Union. 435 00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:54,953 And that required a certain intimate atmosphere. 436 00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:59,500 Later, one of the SS officers would say 437 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,770 that Himmler spoke of the decimation 438 00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:04,183 of the Slavic race by 30 million. 439 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:10,192 For his speech, Himmler used a hall called the 440 00:24:10,192 --> 00:24:14,109 (speaking in foreign language) 441 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,510 Here, around the so-called black sun, 442 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:19,460 The race fanatics forged their plans 443 00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:22,624 for the Third Reich, as Himmler imagined it. 444 00:24:22,624 --> 00:24:25,791 (contemplative music) 445 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:32,170 This hall, designed by the SS during 446 00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:33,860 the remodeling of the Wewelsburg, 447 00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:37,310 today has special significance for neo-Nazis. 448 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:40,840 In its black sun, they see 12 sig runes, 449 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,363 or three swastikas laid on top of each other. 450 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,310 Graphic designer, Andreas Koop 451 00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:49,660 studied the symbol extensively. 452 00:24:49,660 --> 00:24:53,413 Some see it as a black sun, others simply as a sun wheel. 453 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,850 The strength of this symbol 454 00:24:58,850 --> 00:25:00,490 is that it leaves a lot of room 455 00:25:00,490 --> 00:25:02,390 for interpretations like that. 456 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:05,350 Everyone can see in it what he wants to see. 457 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:07,700 But as with the SS rune itself, 458 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,850 the design of the symbol is one thing. 459 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:12,800 But the loading of it with meaning is something else again. 460 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:16,130 Some of Himmler's esoterics 461 00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:18,110 believe the black sun produced the light 462 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:20,393 from which the Proto-Aryans arose. 463 00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:26,900 Others see a connection with the Teutonic order, 464 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:30,203 with the Nordic era saga, or even with King Arthur. 465 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,400 Right below the ornament is a hall with a decorated dome. 466 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,903 It feels like a crypt. 467 00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:41,373 To make it, 468 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:45,280 several floors in the Wewelsburg's north tower were removed. 469 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600 That kind of work was done by forced laborers 470 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,973 from the nearby Niederhagen concentration camp. 471 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:55,430 It's still not clear 472 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:57,680 what the domed hall was meant to be used for. 473 00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:04,960 These occult symbols and rituals 474 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,430 had great meaning for the SS, 475 00:26:06,430 --> 00:26:09,190 when you consider the cohesion of the organization, 476 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:12,177 and its differentiation from the rest of the world. 477 00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:17,080 Himmler's SS provided thousands 478 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,093 of perpetrators of the Holocaust. 479 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:23,080 Many of them were motivated to kill 480 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,373 by a deep racist delusion. 481 00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:31,560 Hitler was aware of how valuable 482 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,283 his loyal Heinrich, as he called him, was. 483 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:39,053 But he was suspicious of his fondness for the supernatural. 484 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,100 There are very clear statements 485 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,510 from Hitler made in trusted company, 486 00:26:46,510 --> 00:26:49,710 where he considered this, as he called it, occult nonsense 487 00:26:49,710 --> 00:26:52,920 as advocated by Himmler to be out of the question, 488 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,420 and thought it was a very unfortunate development. 489 00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:59,630 In his culture speech at the party rally, 490 00:26:59,630 --> 00:27:01,940 he said decidedly that the Nazi party 491 00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:04,873 was not a cult movement, but a political movement. 492 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,300 At the Nuremberg rally in 1938, 493 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,590 Hitler declared that the insinuation into the movement 494 00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:15,890 of mystically inclined occult explorers of the beyond, 495 00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:19,710 must not be tolerated, saying that national socialism 496 00:27:19,710 --> 00:27:22,680 was a cool doctrine of reality. 497 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,610 Hitler and the SS began wrestling 498 00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:26,563 over interpretational sovereignty. 499 00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:29,803 What do the signs of evil ready stand for? 500 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:33,930 Back in May, 1933, the Nazi regime 501 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:36,909 passed a law protecting national symbols. 502 00:27:36,909 --> 00:27:40,076 (contemplative music) 503 00:27:44,493 --> 00:27:46,090 (speaking in foreign language) 504 00:27:46,090 --> 00:27:47,550 The Nazis had a greater awareness 505 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:49,430 that symbols were hugely important 506 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:51,670 for the cohesion of the organization. 507 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:54,860 That must not be allowed to be sentimentalizes. 508 00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:56,880 That's why there was that early law 509 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 against the misuse of Nazi symbols. 510 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,660 There was a real industry that produced 511 00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:04,670 the most outlandish things, which of course tended 512 00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:07,433 to contribute to making those symbols look ridiculous. 513 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:13,670 Christmas tree ornaments with Hitler's face, 514 00:28:13,670 --> 00:28:18,160 Nazi party boxes, and swastika clothing were banned. 515 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,100 The party alone was allowed to decide 516 00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:22,563 where and when its symbols would be used. 517 00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:28,980 The dictator learned from his opponents. 518 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:30,920 In "Mein Kampf" he wrote... 519 00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:37,010 After the war, I experienced 520 00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:39,770 a mass Marxist rally in Berlin, 521 00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:42,233 in front of the Royal palace and guns. 522 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:47,100 A sea of red flags, red armbands, and red flowers 523 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:52,100 gave this rally, which was attended by about 120,000 people. 524 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,913 A tremendous appearance, purely superficially. 525 00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:59,240 I myself could sense and understand how easily 526 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,400 an ordinary man could succumb to the suggestive allure 527 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,763 of such a terrifically potent spectacle. 528 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,050 Nazism was supposed to exude 529 00:29:11,050 --> 00:29:13,127 a similarly potent allure. 530 00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:18,653 Nazi symbols decorated city centers on holidays. 531 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,433 The party marketed itself with flags and bunting. 532 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,210 Eva Sternheim was a member of the league of German girls, 533 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:35,603 and was thrilled by all the symbols. 534 00:29:37,453 --> 00:29:41,390 (speaking in foreign language) 535 00:29:41,390 --> 00:29:43,140 I liked the sig runes. 536 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,490 And I envied The Young Folk, the parallel organization 537 00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:49,883 to the Young Girls League, for boys ages 10 to 14. 538 00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:54,020 They had black pennants with a sig rune on them. 539 00:29:54,942 --> 00:29:56,290 And I thought that was great. 540 00:29:56,290 --> 00:29:58,650 So I stole a sig rune pennant, 541 00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:02,003 and appointed my Young Girls group with it. 542 00:30:03,323 --> 00:30:06,510 But that didn't go down so well with one of my rivals. 543 00:30:06,510 --> 00:30:07,343 And I got in trouble. 544 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,940 The Nazi signs and symbols 545 00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:15,530 seemed made for each other, homogeneous, 546 00:30:15,530 --> 00:30:17,903 as if they'd been created by an agency. 547 00:30:19,466 --> 00:30:22,216 (dramatic music) 548 00:30:25,226 --> 00:30:26,290 (speaking in foreign language) 549 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:27,840 The color code the Nazis used 550 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,630 fed very well into their whole ideology. 551 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:32,520 You have the brown, which stands for 552 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,400 the militaristic aspect for the SA, and the SS. 553 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,810 Then you have black, of course, 554 00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:39,550 which was later used for the SS, 555 00:30:39,550 --> 00:30:42,720 and which exuded an incredible aggressiveness and brutality, 556 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,076 especially in connection with the image of the skull. 557 00:30:46,076 --> 00:30:47,700 And you have the signal color of red, 558 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:49,530 used along with a swastika, 559 00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:52,277 which has a great pithiness and recognizability. 560 00:30:53,182 --> 00:30:56,810 (dramatic music) 561 00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:59,003 It's an ensemble of terror. 562 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:04,483 Nazi propaganda was aggressive. 563 00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:11,153 It was accusatory, and direct. 564 00:31:12,072 --> 00:31:14,905 (dramatic music) 565 00:31:19,928 --> 00:31:22,776 (speaking in foreign language) 566 00:31:22,776 --> 00:31:23,880 The blatant, the loud, 567 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,690 the openly propagandistic elements 568 00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:28,270 certainly helped this regime 569 00:31:28,270 --> 00:31:30,793 be very effective and efficient back then. 570 00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:35,870 Not least because before this, no one else in politics 571 00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:39,343 had used these mass media in such an intense way. 572 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:42,900 So the effect on the population was, 573 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,403 of course, especially intense. 574 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,255 But appearances are deceiving. 575 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:51,360 The design of the Nazis, their signs and symbols 576 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,460 were not part of a unified strategy. 577 00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:55,773 What unified them was simply their style. 578 00:31:57,130 --> 00:32:00,290 Even font choices were ideologically determined. 579 00:32:00,290 --> 00:32:02,990 Gothic or fraktur were all the rage. 580 00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:05,863 They were considered Teutonic, German fonts. 581 00:32:07,815 --> 00:32:09,818 (speaking in foreign language) 582 00:32:09,818 --> 00:32:11,621 Traditionally in those folkish circles, 583 00:32:11,621 --> 00:32:13,720 there was the notion that the German or Aryan person 584 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,180 also had to distinguish himself through a special font. 585 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:18,860 So there was a real cult surrounding 586 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:21,973 these fraktur typefaces, German typefaces. 587 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:25,780 Official documents were printed in fraktur. 588 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:28,860 And film posters use the old fashioned fonts. 589 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,420 In 1937, Jewish owned publishers 590 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:33,933 were forbidden from using Gothic typefaces. 591 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:39,620 Designer Andreas Koop has studied 592 00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:41,523 the effect of fraktur type faces. 593 00:32:47,913 --> 00:32:48,980 (speaking in foreign language) 594 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:50,640 Here, we have an original poster 595 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,640 for a speech by Hitler in 1923, typeset in a fraktur font, 596 00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:59,950 a broken script, and next to it, redesigned. 597 00:32:59,950 --> 00:33:01,730 I think you can clearly see here 598 00:33:01,730 --> 00:33:04,520 what a great role the typeface plays. 599 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,113 A font could almost have a textual influence. 600 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,800 I believe the message is clearly rich. 601 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,820 It simply has something focused, populist, not elitist. 602 00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:17,580 And if you compare it to this reconstruction of the poster, 603 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:20,160 it's almost like a technical lecture. 604 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,730 It has a completely different feel, 605 00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:24,033 which does not correspond to that of Hitler. 606 00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:28,900 But from 1941, Hitler, 607 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:33,070 along with Martin Bormann, suddenly espoused Roman type. 608 00:33:33,070 --> 00:33:37,193 It was an about face, away from the allegedly old Germanic. 609 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Bormann issued a circular in which he polemically stated 610 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,750 that for him, fraktur was only made up of schwabacher 611 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:50,850 Jewish letters, presumably a reference to the fact 612 00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:53,580 that Jewish publishers had earlier dealt in books 613 00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:56,333 printed with the schwabacher fraktur typeface. 614 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,110 They came from the fraktur typeface, 615 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:04,870 which of course had a strongly Germanic heritage, 616 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:07,300 and which was meant to demonstrate how important it was 617 00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:11,680 to the Nazis to carry on this Germanness and its tradition. 618 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,870 Later they switched to a more modern antiqua font, 619 00:34:14,870 --> 00:34:17,170 which was meant to symbolize, we are also 620 00:34:17,170 --> 00:34:20,283 a modern, progressive, and above all global movement. 621 00:34:24,328 --> 00:34:26,110 That was the point, expressing the idea 622 00:34:26,110 --> 00:34:28,920 to the people out there that the Nazis represented 623 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,080 a movement that would eventually conquer the world, 624 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,580 which luckily didn't happened. 625 00:34:35,630 --> 00:34:36,800 Hitler wanted to use 626 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,870 the new typeface as an ideological message. 627 00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:42,000 In 100 years, our language will be 628 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,460 the European language, he asserted in a speech. 629 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:48,133 And the prerequisite for that was Roman type. 630 00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:50,450 It's understandable 631 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:52,450 that Hitler preferred antigua. 632 00:34:52,450 --> 00:34:54,240 This font, in capital letters, 633 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,780 ideally centered along the central axis, 634 00:34:56,780 --> 00:34:59,223 is the typographical expression of power. 635 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:06,920 Fraktur typefaces had to disappear 636 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,140 from party pamphlets, newspapers, and announcements 637 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,060 to be replaced by Roman type, 638 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:13,993 the script of the ancient Romans. 639 00:35:17,010 --> 00:35:19,850 (speaking in foreign language) 640 00:35:19,850 --> 00:35:21,710 The entire presence of the Nazis was, 641 00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:22,900 of course, completely aimed 642 00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:25,453 at preventing any kind of individuality. 643 00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:28,840 Essentially, you can say that democracy stands 644 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,160 for colorfulness, and dictatorships stand for monotony. 645 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,360 That has a lot to do with the concept of humanity behind it, 646 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,120 meaning that they wanted to bring everyone into line, 647 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,793 in the truest sense of the word. 648 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:47,750 With the memory of defeat still fresh, 649 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:51,023 the Nazi regime adheres to its signs of evil. 650 00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:57,653 Under their impact, resistance is opposed with deadly rigor. 651 00:36:00,550 --> 00:36:02,123 Deserters are hanged. 652 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:04,943 Prisoners are executed. 653 00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:11,660 Obedience until the bitter end. 654 00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:14,440 Many believed to the last in a final victory, 655 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,653 under the banner of the SS runes. 656 00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:20,704 (speaking in foreign language) 657 00:36:20,704 --> 00:36:22,900 In our memory, they stand for Auschwitz, 658 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,350 for a time when there was no room for humanity, 659 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:26,500 or at least in Germany. 660 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:32,080 They stand for World War II, and for a totalitarian regime 661 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,023 that was unique in its ideological power of destruction. 662 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,450 And they stand for an entire country, 663 00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:41,483 and many people in that country who looked away. 664 00:36:45,302 --> 00:36:48,240 (dramatic music) 665 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,440 After the surrender, 666 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,260 hundreds of thousands of people were arrested by the allies. 667 00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:56,530 And suddenly the SS runes were revealing. 668 00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:59,563 The symbol of evil identified perpetrators. 669 00:37:00,836 --> 00:37:03,586 (dramatic music) 670 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:09,430 Sometimes a tattoo indicating a blood group 671 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:10,623 was the key evidence. 672 00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:16,460 Often simply belonging to Himmler's SS 673 00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:19,173 was enough for the victors as proof of guilt. 674 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,783 Some prisoners were executed immediately. 675 00:37:23,685 --> 00:37:24,518 (guns firing) 676 00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:25,853 Others were put on trial. 677 00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:28,950 For Eva Sternheim, 678 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:31,993 the end of the war meant the end of her world. 679 00:37:32,919 --> 00:37:36,499 (speaking in foreign language) 680 00:37:36,499 --> 00:37:38,730 That scene, and the Vice Chancellor. 681 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:42,030 Above was a big imperial eagle holding a laurel wreath 682 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:44,403 in its talons, with a swastika on it. 683 00:37:45,701 --> 00:37:47,560 And that was blown up. 684 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,210 That still really affects me, because that was the downfall. 685 00:37:51,210 --> 00:37:53,293 It was all over, the end. 686 00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:56,570 Later, she reckoned 687 00:37:56,570 --> 00:37:58,750 with her own history, and with Germany's. 688 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:00,860 The German title of her book means, 689 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:03,251 was I the only one who cheered? 690 00:38:03,251 --> 00:38:06,001 (dramatic music) 691 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,800 In October of 1945, the allies passed a law forbidding 692 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,253 the Nazi party, and all its organizations, including the SS. 693 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:22,110 The newly founded Federal Republic of Germany 694 00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:26,593 went one step further, penalizing the use of Nazi symbols. 695 00:38:33,316 --> 00:38:35,080 (speaking in foreign language) 696 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,350 After that massive phase of propaganda, 697 00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:40,770 which really did permeate the entire German population, 698 00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:43,940 it was important to ban those symbols from public life, 699 00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:46,710 in order to expedite de-nazification, 700 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:49,440 just as it was right to ban certain literature, 701 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,983 certain statements, in order to rebuild democracy. 702 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,010 But the fatal attraction has not gone away. 703 00:38:59,010 --> 00:39:01,520 The old symbols appear again and again, 704 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,980 whether out of ignorance, 705 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:06,053 an assertion of convictions, or as a provocation. 706 00:39:10,930 --> 00:39:13,560 The rock band, Kiss, gained notoriety worldwide 707 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,240 by using the double lightning bolts, especially 708 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,279 when the runes appeared at their concerts in Germany. 709 00:39:21,279 --> 00:39:24,446 (rock and roll music) 710 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,670 Of course, it leads to real conflicts 711 00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:31,050 when a foreign band uses SS runes in its name. 712 00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:33,590 And this band sells albums here in Germany, 713 00:39:33,590 --> 00:39:37,010 or goes on tour here, and then comes into conflict 714 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:39,293 with the peculiarities of German law. 715 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:45,260 When lawyers and fans protested, the band's 716 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:48,630 German record company offered to change Kiss's logo. 717 00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:52,543 Shortly thereafter the label announced in a statement... 718 00:39:52,543 --> 00:39:54,970 We would never dream of suspecting the band 719 00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:57,550 of glorifying Marxism because of their logo. 720 00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:59,370 We're pleased that the band's management 721 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:00,963 has agreed to the change. 722 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,670 So Kiss, with a double S runes, 723 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:09,360 becomes Kiss without them, but only for a short time. 724 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,340 The band singer's insists it's not meant to be 725 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:14,333 a Nazi symbol, since he himself is Jewish. 726 00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:18,553 (upbeat music) 727 00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:22,370 An incident from 2015 shows how sensitive 728 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:24,483 many people are to these signs of evil. 729 00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:27,930 At Berlin's eternally unfinished new airport, 730 00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:29,710 already a public laughing stock, 731 00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:32,423 suddenly SS runes appeared on a wall. 732 00:40:33,315 --> 00:40:35,940 (upbeat music) 733 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:38,240 They can especially be seen online, 734 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,143 but rarely on the wall itself. 735 00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:43,720 Closer investigation reveals that fixtures 736 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,360 for hanging advertising signs were casting 737 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,186 compromising shadows under certain lighting conditions. 738 00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:52,769 (upbeat music) 739 00:41:05,798 --> 00:41:08,520 Once you find you have to seriously consider 740 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,230 whether there is someone deliberately behind the fact 741 00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:13,960 that whenever it's sunny, the main entrance 742 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,370 of the airport is covered in these runes, 743 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:19,380 due to the way the shadows fall, then you need 744 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:21,780 to take action simply to avoid misunderstanding. 745 00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:27,030 right wing extremists like to cause 746 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:29,903 provocation using slightly altered symbols. 747 00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:36,573 They know exactly what is allowed, and what is not. 748 00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:39,870 Extremism and racism, 749 00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:43,363 signaled through slight variations of the old symbols. 750 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:49,330 The inhuman messages of Heinrich Himmler and his henchmen 751 00:41:49,330 --> 00:41:51,983 are still behind these tattoos of the posters. 752 00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:57,260 And the black sun continues to be used 753 00:42:00,215 --> 00:42:02,710 (speaking in foreign language) 754 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:03,680 In this country, 755 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,373 you were allowed to have, and to express extremist views. 756 00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:11,343 As painful as that might be, it's a part of our liberty. 757 00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:15,370 The line is drawn, either where other persons 758 00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:18,240 are disparaged, or where specifically 759 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,873 outlawed organizations are promoted or advertised. 760 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:25,613 And that does not apply to the black sun. 761 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:29,860 The black sun falls 762 00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:32,470 through the cracks of German criminal law. 763 00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:35,180 It was not the symbol of a Nazi organization, 764 00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:36,933 so it has not been banned. 765 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,810 12 runes, which the SS used for their purposes. 766 00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:46,640 Back then, as today, signaling right wing views, 767 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,433 and a threat to all who believed differently. 768 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,610 We Germans are a special case. 769 00:42:54,610 --> 00:42:57,640 Germany is more than just the Federal Republic of Germany. 770 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,290 And it isn't, we who are the wrong way drivers, 771 00:43:00,290 --> 00:43:02,210 but everyone else is a wrong way driver. 772 00:43:02,210 --> 00:43:04,213 And I'm showing these wrong way drivers. 773 00:43:05,055 --> 00:43:08,890 Watch out, bear in mind what this symbol once meant. 774 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:11,700 And I who now where it, think it is right. 775 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,660 I think it is wrong that Hitler was unable 776 00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:16,463 to complete the job, and now I'm here to do it. 777 00:43:18,042 --> 00:43:21,959 (speaking in foreign language) 778 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,830 So how should a nation of law 779 00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:28,243 deal with this sort of provocation? 780 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:34,173 Can it combat dangerous views with the code of law? 781 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,290 Or does it require above all, courage, 782 00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:45,350 conviction, and fortitude in order 783 00:43:45,350 --> 00:43:47,683 to break the spell of the signs of evil? 784 00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:51,523 How watchful must democracy be? 785 00:43:53,367 --> 00:43:55,820 (speaking in foreign language) 786 00:43:55,820 --> 00:43:57,580 We are witnessing how people have 787 00:43:57,580 --> 00:44:01,250 no inhibitions to say things about other people that 788 00:44:01,250 --> 00:44:04,490 at best are insulting, and at worst are formulated 789 00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:08,030 with the energy of spiritual arson and violence. 790 00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:09,080 And we are seeing how 791 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,473 the spiritual arson becomes real arson. 792 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,380 According to the law, 793 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:18,990 only what is expressed publicly can be penalized. 794 00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:21,770 It was only when Neo-Nazi and NPD politician, 795 00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:23,820 Marcel Zech was photographed shirtless 796 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:26,750 at a swimming pool that he became culpable. 797 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:28,530 His back is tattooed with a slogan 798 00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:30,807 from the Birkenau Concentration Camp, 799 00:44:30,807 --> 00:44:32,957 "Everyone gets what he deserves." 800 00:44:35,626 --> 00:44:37,650 (speaking in foreign language) 801 00:44:37,650 --> 00:44:39,040 You may indeed have yourself 802 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,490 tattooed with Nazi symbols. 803 00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:44,073 But you are not allowed to display them publicly. 804 00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:47,830 Marcel Zech, who was seen at a swimming pool with 805 00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:51,333 a concentration camp tattoo was convicted of hate speech. 806 00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:56,840 Paragraph 130 of the criminal code also condemns 807 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,500 denying, condoning, or making light of 808 00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:03,158 the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis. 809 00:45:03,158 --> 00:45:06,160 (speaking in foreign language) 810 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,450 Marcel Zech also lost his case on appeal. 811 00:45:09,450 --> 00:45:12,100 In November, 2016, he was sentenced 812 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,223 to eight months in prison without parole. 813 00:45:15,498 --> 00:45:19,340 (contemplative music) 814 00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:22,660 Many right wing extremists want a society without tolerance, 815 00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:26,373 and without solidarity for the marginalized, like back then. 816 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,980 They identify themselves through the clothes they wear. 817 00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:34,810 A favorite label of many radicals is Thor Steinar. 818 00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:37,977 (contemplative music) 819 00:45:39,769 --> 00:45:41,959 What set the Thor Steinar logo apart 820 00:45:41,959 --> 00:45:45,080 was that it combined two runes that were 821 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,053 widely known and familiar in Nazi circles. 822 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:52,520 The company symbol consists of the S rune, 823 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,130 and the tiwaz rune, the Germanic symbol for battle. 824 00:45:56,130 --> 00:45:59,178 The label has been taken to court in Germany. 825 00:45:59,178 --> 00:46:00,570 (speaking in foreign language) 826 00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:02,120 Initially the court focused on 827 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,170 the individual components, the sig rune and the tiwaz rune. 828 00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:08,933 And they said both are unconstitutional symbols. 829 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,890 The label lost its first case, 830 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:14,313 and then won on appeal. 831 00:46:17,242 --> 00:46:18,370 (speaking in foreign language) 832 00:46:18,370 --> 00:46:19,730 When you take different symbols, 833 00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:23,590 each of which is actionable on its own, and create 834 00:46:23,590 --> 00:46:27,338 a new symbol that has it's own optical content, 835 00:46:27,338 --> 00:46:30,010 and has never been used by a banned organization, 836 00:46:30,010 --> 00:46:32,973 then it truly does not have the elements of an offense. 837 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,860 Until the court lifted its ban, 838 00:46:36,860 --> 00:46:39,550 the company briefly used a new logo. 839 00:46:39,550 --> 00:46:43,033 In the meantime, it has returned to the previous two runes. 840 00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:51,400 These fashion labels are important 841 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,710 for the right wing camp to project their views outwardly, 842 00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:56,510 and make themselves identifiable, 843 00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:59,510 while at the same time strengthening the community inwardly. 844 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,510 A small group from the state 845 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:05,680 of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern uses humor 846 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,320 to take aim at the right wing label. 847 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,580 Its owners have created the label Storch Heiner, 848 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:15,150 Stork Heiner, an entire stork themed collection 849 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:17,793 with similar designs to those of Thor Steinar. 850 00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:21,260 Sales of Storch Heiner products are donated 851 00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:24,023 to projects working against right wing extremists. 852 00:47:24,997 --> 00:47:27,497 (calm music) 853 00:47:30,918 --> 00:47:31,751 (speaking in foreign language) 854 00:47:31,751 --> 00:47:33,150 They're doing exactly that, 855 00:47:33,150 --> 00:47:36,270 which should distinguish a democratic state. 856 00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:39,340 These initiatives work with words on the one hand, 857 00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:41,970 but also with the distortion of the original symbols. 858 00:47:41,970 --> 00:47:45,610 In doing so, they make fun of the things the other side 859 00:47:45,610 --> 00:47:48,663 takes especially seriously, and wants to venerate. 860 00:47:52,134 --> 00:47:53,230 Thor Steinar took the parodists 861 00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:55,003 to court, and lost. 862 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,693 But how should Germany proceed? 863 00:48:03,070 --> 00:48:06,010 Some in the country think lifting the ban on Nazi symbols 864 00:48:06,010 --> 00:48:09,527 would make them less appealing as a gesture of rebellion. 865 00:48:09,527 --> 00:48:12,694 (contemplative music) 866 00:48:16,019 --> 00:48:17,634 (speaking in foreign language) 867 00:48:17,634 --> 00:48:18,580 'What signal would it send, 868 00:48:18,580 --> 00:48:20,480 if these were no longer banned? 869 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,220 The message would be spread that they were allowed. 870 00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:26,070 And if the symbolism were allowed, it would seem 871 00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:28,220 that there would no longer be anything questionable 872 00:48:28,220 --> 00:48:30,570 about the thoughts and convictions behind them. 873 00:48:34,605 --> 00:48:37,170 (speaking in foreign language) 874 00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:38,510 There are certain symbols 875 00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:40,768 that can very easily be exploited. 876 00:48:40,768 --> 00:48:44,143 That includes, of course, the symbols from the Nazi era. 877 00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:46,760 For some people they still have a great 878 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,440 identification potential, they still have appeal. 879 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,480 And that's why it is right to keep these symbols 880 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,100 out of the public eye as much as possible, 881 00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,680 so as not to encourage these people 882 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,442 to fall prey to this ideology again. 883 00:48:59,442 --> 00:49:03,359 (speaking in foreign language) 884 00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:06,750 Combating the signs of evil 885 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:08,800 is about more than just a right wing 886 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,220 clothing label, or historical details. 887 00:49:12,220 --> 00:49:14,773 It's about liberty, and the future. 888 00:49:17,776 --> 00:49:18,609 (speaking in foreign language) 889 00:49:18,609 --> 00:49:20,330 The ban on using these symbols 890 00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:24,000 will surely be maintained for a long time to come. 891 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,950 As long as there are still people who suffered 892 00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:28,280 under the Nazis, for instance people 893 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,780 whose parents were killed back then, 894 00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:33,380 the sensitivity is so great 895 00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:35,680 that these symbols will continue to be banned. 896 00:49:37,616 --> 00:49:40,449 (dramatic music) 66781

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