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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:06,140 Legends are few and far between, 2 00:00:06,140 --> 00:00:08,500 but when you meet one, it blows your mind, 3 00:00:08,500 --> 00:00:12,060 and they make a real difference to the whole of society. 4 00:00:12,060 --> 00:00:14,700 Tonight, we're in Oxford to tell the story 5 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:18,780 of an extraordinary physicist who faced challenge after challenge, 6 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:20,420 yet made a famous discovery 7 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:23,020 that changed the face of astronomy forever. 8 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:26,020 She has been a maverick in the field, and, in fact, 9 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:30,140 her discovery actually started a new subfield in astronomy. 10 00:00:30,140 --> 00:00:32,500 Without Jocelyn, I wouldn't be here. 11 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,620 Welcome to The Sky At Night. 12 00:01:02,740 --> 00:01:04,820 When I arrived in Cambridge, 13 00:01:04,820 --> 00:01:07,500 I felt like a country yokel. 14 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:10,500 And I thought, "They've made a mistake, admitting me. 15 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,580 "I'm not bright enough for this place. 16 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:15,660 "They're going to discover their mistake, 17 00:01:15,660 --> 00:01:17,420 "they're going to throw me out. 18 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:22,940 "But, until they throw me out, I will work my very hardest, 19 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:26,980 "so that when they throw me out, I won't have a guilty conscience." 20 00:01:26,980 --> 00:01:29,100 APPLAUSE 21 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:32,380 MAGGIE: Professor Jocelyn Bell Burnell. 22 00:01:32,380 --> 00:01:36,740 She's a discoverer, an explorer of a distant cosmos, 23 00:01:36,740 --> 00:01:39,980 and she's walked amongst the stars. 24 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:43,460 But in 1965, she was just a student 25 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:46,260 about to start her PhD. 26 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:49,220 Radio astronomy was still fairly new at that stage, 27 00:01:49,220 --> 00:01:51,060 so there was a lot going on, 28 00:01:51,060 --> 00:01:53,580 a lot of interesting stuff happening. 29 00:01:53,580 --> 00:01:55,900 It was an exciting time to be involved. 30 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:01,420 Jocelyn's Supervisor, Professor Antony Hewish, 31 00:02:01,420 --> 00:02:06,500 had grand designs for a new state-of-the-art radio telescope. 32 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:11,020 I didn't initially realise how big a telescope Tony was planning. 33 00:02:11,020 --> 00:02:14,820 At the point I arrived, he had the money to build the telescope. 34 00:02:14,820 --> 00:02:17,020 I think he had at least rough designs, 35 00:02:17,020 --> 00:02:19,420 but there was, so to speak, nothing on the ground. 36 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:24,260 And when it became clear it's 57 tennis courts in area, 37 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:25,940 it's huge, 38 00:02:25,940 --> 00:02:27,780 it took two years to build. 39 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:30,060 There were about half a dozen of us working on it. 40 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:32,420 I was doing quite a lot of sledgehammering, 41 00:02:32,420 --> 00:02:34,060 became quite strong. 42 00:02:34,060 --> 00:02:36,140 And then we switched it on. 43 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:38,700 Radio telescopes often don't work first time, 44 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:40,180 but this one did. 45 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:41,420 It worked! 46 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:46,820 With 120 miles of wiring, 47 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:50,420 the world's newest radio telescope was complete. 48 00:02:51,540 --> 00:02:53,500 So I was straight into observing. 49 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:56,380 And then I had miles and miles and miles of chart paper 50 00:02:56,380 --> 00:02:58,340 pouring out of chart recorders, 51 00:02:58,340 --> 00:03:01,220 which I would take back to my desk in Cambridge, 52 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:02,820 and sit and analyse. 53 00:03:04,780 --> 00:03:07,900 We all use radio waves every day, 54 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:09,980 and, just as you can tune your car radio 55 00:03:09,980 --> 00:03:11,700 to hear your favourite music... 56 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,260 I wonder what else is on the radio. STATION FLIPS 57 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:16,740 ..by tuning a telescope to the skies, 58 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:20,060 you can listen to the universe's greatest hits, too - 59 00:03:20,060 --> 00:03:22,300 if you can tune out the static. 60 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:26,700 The signals arriving at Jocelyn's telescope 61 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:30,220 were buried in a cacophony of interference. 62 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:32,740 But, with her sharp memory and keen eye, 63 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:35,420 she spotted something that no-one had before. 64 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:40,540 It was when I saw this little bit of scruff 65 00:03:40,540 --> 00:03:46,140 and said, "Oh, yeah, I've seen this somewhere before, haven't I?" 66 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:49,460 My data comes out on long rolls of paper chart, 67 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:53,500 and I have the previous rolls stored in boxes. 68 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,700 So I get out the box that covers this bit of sky. 69 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,100 I was fortunate, in that the grad students worked in an attic, 70 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:02,260 and there was a great, big, long space 71 00:04:02,260 --> 00:04:04,940 down the middle of the attic between our desks. 72 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:07,980 So I took over this space and spread out my charts 73 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:09,980 for the observations I'd already made 74 00:04:09,980 --> 00:04:11,860 of that particular strip of sky. 75 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,300 Jocelyn had identified a signal, 76 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,580 measuring just a quarter inch, 77 00:04:18,580 --> 00:04:20,580 in hundreds of feet of data. 78 00:04:21,980 --> 00:04:24,620 Her diligence was about to pay off. 79 00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:28,020 We needed an enlargement. 80 00:04:28,020 --> 00:04:30,900 And, with paper chart, rolls of paper chart, 81 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:34,940 the way you get an enlargement is to run the paper faster under the pen, 82 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:37,580 and everything gets spread out. Very neat. 83 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:39,380 And, right from the start, 84 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:41,460 as I ran the paper faster under the pen, 85 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:44,780 I could see it going blip, blip, blip, blip. 86 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:46,380 Always the same beat... 87 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:50,340 ..but one and a third seconds apart, 88 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:54,540 which is totally unknown in astronomy. 89 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:56,820 What the heck is this? 90 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:02,060 For an astronomer, the rate of a pulsing signal 91 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:04,540 indicates the size of the object. 92 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:07,060 For something astronomical to produce pulses 93 00:05:07,060 --> 00:05:08,900 every one-and-a-third seconds, 94 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:13,140 it must be spinning once every one-and-a-third seconds. 95 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:15,860 The thought was preposterous. 96 00:05:15,860 --> 00:05:17,580 No object had ever been observed 97 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,380 that could be as powerful, yet small. 98 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:24,820 I took the trouble of phoning my supervisor, and said, 99 00:05:24,820 --> 00:05:28,060 "Tony, it's a string of pulses one-and-a-third seconds apart." 100 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:31,220 "Oh. Well, that settles it. 101 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:33,460 "It's man-made." 102 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:34,900 And put the phone down. 103 00:05:36,180 --> 00:05:40,300 Artificial or not, what was causing this strange signal? 104 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:46,260 So, one of the problems was, is this some foible of my telescope? 105 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:48,660 Have I got some wires crossed? 106 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:53,700 Tony and I spoke to another academic and his grad student 107 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:55,500 to see if they could help us. 108 00:05:55,500 --> 00:06:00,660 They had a separate radio telescope, separate receiver on the same site, 109 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:03,660 but working on the same frequency, the same channel. 110 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:07,100 One day, four of us went out to the observatory - 111 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:11,460 Robin and his supervisor, me and Tony, my supervisor. 112 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:13,700 And the way the telescopes were aligned. 113 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,900 my telescope would see it first, 114 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,540 and Robin would see it 20 minutes later, or something like that. 115 00:06:19,540 --> 00:06:20,940 My telescope observed it. 116 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:23,100 The thing was pulsing nice and strong. 117 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:24,420 It was good and healthy. 118 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:27,580 And then we went and stood by Robin's equipment. 119 00:06:27,580 --> 00:06:29,220 And nothing happened. 120 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:34,580 And Tony and Paul, the two academics, 121 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:37,460 started walking down this long laboratory. 122 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:39,820 I was padding along behind them, and they were saying, 123 00:06:39,820 --> 00:06:42,420 "Now, what could it be that shows in this radio telescope, 124 00:06:42,420 --> 00:06:44,500 "but not that one? Could it be da-da-da-da-da?" 125 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:46,460 "No, it can't be that because..." 126 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:49,980 "Oh. Could it be ba-ba-ba-ba-ba?" 127 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:51,980 Robin has stayed by his pen recorder. 128 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:54,620 We've got down this long laboratory, 129 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:56,700 and suddenly there's a shriek from way back there. 130 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:58,100 "Here it is!" 131 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:59,900 We all went charging back. 132 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:04,820 And there were the pulses coming in, seen by a separate radio telescope 133 00:07:04,820 --> 00:07:08,020 with its own receiver and its own chart recorder. 134 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:11,580 Robin had miscalculated by 15 minutes 135 00:07:11,580 --> 00:07:15,100 when his telescope would see that bit of sky. 136 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:17,780 If he'd miscalculated by an hour and 15 minutes, 137 00:07:17,780 --> 00:07:19,420 we'd have all gone home, 138 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:21,140 and the story would be different. 139 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:26,260 Jocelyn had discovered a pulsar. 140 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:28,820 A zombie. 141 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:32,060 The leftover core of a cataclysmic explosion 142 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:33,940 at the end of a star's life. 143 00:07:35,380 --> 00:07:38,620 One of the most extreme objects in the universe. 144 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:43,660 When a star dies, it sheds its outer layers, 145 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:46,060 but what remains collapses. 146 00:07:46,060 --> 00:07:48,180 And, like an ice skater going into a spin, 147 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:51,180 when an object shrinks, it spins faster. 148 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:54,820 The more dramatic the collapse, the faster the resulting spin. 149 00:07:54,820 --> 00:07:58,220 And it's this spin that means that pulsars pulse, 150 00:07:58,220 --> 00:08:01,540 that we see regular bursts of radio waves. 151 00:08:01,540 --> 00:08:04,220 Like Earth, pulsars have magnetic fields. 152 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:08,060 Particles are channelled along the magnetic field lines 153 00:08:08,060 --> 00:08:10,620 and, in the exotic environment around a pulsar, 154 00:08:10,620 --> 00:08:15,020 they produce jets of radio waves aligned with each magnetic pole. 155 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:18,740 Now, the magnetic pole won't be aligned, typically, 156 00:08:18,740 --> 00:08:20,980 with the rotation axis of the pulsar. 157 00:08:20,980 --> 00:08:25,100 And what that means is that we get something like this. 158 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:27,620 From Earth, we see flashes of radio waves 159 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:29,940 as each beam sweeps across us. 160 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:33,700 A cosmic beacon, a lighthouse shining out into the darkness. 161 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:40,820 Jocelyn had opened up a whole new area of study. 162 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:46,060 Pulsars are laboratories for extreme physics - 163 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:48,900 so extreme that scientists are still investigating 164 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:50,540 their secrets to this day. 165 00:08:52,340 --> 00:08:55,780 I've come to Royal Holloway, University of London, 166 00:08:55,780 --> 00:08:58,260 to meet Dr Vanessa Graber, 167 00:08:58,260 --> 00:09:01,660 to find out what we know about their guts. 168 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:04,180 Astronomers usually like to give, 169 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:06,420 like, names to certain subclasses of things. 170 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:09,100 So neutron stars is like the exact, like, the compact object 171 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:10,740 that we have outside in space. 172 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:12,780 And pulsars are those specific neutron stars 173 00:09:12,780 --> 00:09:15,380 that actually produce this lighthouse type of radiation. 174 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:17,140 With incredibly high density. Yes. 175 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:19,820 So this is really like an object that's the size of a city 176 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:22,180 like London, but weighs something between one to two times 177 00:09:22,180 --> 00:09:23,500 as much as our sun. 178 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:26,460 And if you think about sort of, like, the quantities involved, 179 00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:29,820 if you compress the sun, or twice the sun into the size of a city, 180 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:32,140 you end up with really extreme densities 181 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:34,700 that is something that we really can't produce on Earth. 182 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,780 Seeing something in space the size of London is challenging. 183 00:09:37,780 --> 00:09:40,060 SHE LAUGHS Very, very. Exactly. 184 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:41,980 I suppose that's why your work is so important. 185 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:43,540 Because we're modelling this... Yes. 186 00:09:43,540 --> 00:09:45,860 ..because we can't really get up close and personal to see it. 187 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,660 So, to a first instant, we can either say, 188 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:49,660 "OK, look, this is like a massive fluid ball," 189 00:09:49,660 --> 00:09:51,740 and then we can write down a set of equations, 190 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:54,020 and then we build it up from there. Yes, yes. 191 00:09:54,020 --> 00:09:56,780 So you have to come up with some additional, like, ideas 192 00:09:56,780 --> 00:09:59,500 on how you can make this model more realistic. 193 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,180 And in the case of the neutron star, 194 00:10:01,180 --> 00:10:05,100 what's generally happening is that we don't just have a fluid ball, 195 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,780 but this fluid interior is surrounded by a solid crust. 196 00:10:09,940 --> 00:10:12,940 Pulses of radiation that are emitted from the star 197 00:10:12,940 --> 00:10:15,340 will usually slow down over time. 198 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:21,020 Sudden changes in this pattern can give away crucial clues 199 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:22,740 about the star's interior. 200 00:10:24,260 --> 00:10:26,580 Now, this periodic signal, I was told that it was 201 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:29,020 one of the most reliable things in the universe. Yes, yes. 202 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:30,860 There's sort of, you know, this pinpoint precision. 203 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:32,260 But not always. 204 00:10:32,260 --> 00:10:34,340 Yes, that's true. THEY CHUCKLE 205 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:37,340 Which is like, the thing that my heart beats for, I guess. 206 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:39,060 SHE LAUGHS This is your research? 207 00:10:39,060 --> 00:10:41,940 Yeah, this is, like, what I work on, on a daily basis, 208 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:45,220 which is, the fact that some of the neutron stars, 209 00:10:45,220 --> 00:10:47,940 where they spin down - and this was actually observed 210 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:50,620 very early on after the first neutron star was discovered - 211 00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:54,780 is that some neutron stars show what I like to call hiccups. Mm. 212 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:57,300 So they don't just spin down, 213 00:10:57,300 --> 00:10:59,420 but there is this occasional interruption 214 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:01,540 where the star suddenly rotates a little bit faster. 215 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:06,380 By studying the pattern of the hiccup, 216 00:11:06,380 --> 00:11:08,260 the changing spin, 217 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:10,740 we can get an insight into what's happening 218 00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:13,380 inside the heart of the star. 219 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:17,140 To explain, we'll need the help of a couple of eggs. 220 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:19,820 OK, so we have two different eggs, 221 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:21,940 and we're going to try and do a little experiment 222 00:11:21,940 --> 00:11:23,780 that you can also try at home. 223 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:25,860 So we'll start with this one. 224 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:27,220 And what I'm going to do is, 225 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:28,980 I'm going to rotate the egg, 226 00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:31,380 and then I'm going to use my finger to quickly stop the shell. 227 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:33,860 And then we're going to look at what's actually happening. 228 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:35,900 OK. So this is the egg. 229 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:40,220 I'll stop it... It stopped rotating. Exactly. 230 00:11:40,220 --> 00:11:42,460 OK, let's try this with this one. 231 00:11:44,260 --> 00:11:45,740 OK, let me try the same thing. 232 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:47,420 I'll stop the egg with the finger - 233 00:11:47,420 --> 00:11:48,780 and what we see is it does rotate 234 00:11:48,780 --> 00:11:49,780 a little bit more afterwards. 235 00:11:49,780 --> 00:11:50,900 It does. 236 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:53,060 OK, we do exactly the same thing for both eggs 237 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,220 and we do see something very different happening. 238 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:58,060 Yes, yes! So should we reveal what's happening? 239 00:11:58,060 --> 00:12:00,460 THEY LAUGH Or if I could guess? Yes, yeah. 240 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:03,100 What do you think...? What do you think is the difference? 241 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:05,860 So I think one is more fluid than the other. 242 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:07,140 Yes, the interior. 243 00:12:07,140 --> 00:12:08,980 This one, I guess, is the raw egg. 244 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:11,580 Yes. And this is hard boiled? That's correct. OK. 245 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:13,460 So in the case of the hard boiled egg, 246 00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:15,740 basically, the individual components of the shell, 247 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:17,140 the egg white and the egg yolk, 248 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:19,420 are all just connected as a single component. 249 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:20,820 So initially, when you spin it up, 250 00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:23,180 everything rotates at the same speed. 251 00:12:23,180 --> 00:12:26,460 But, in the case of the raw egg, if I rotate things, 252 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:28,580 it will take a little while for the interior 253 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:29,780 to actually start to rotate, 254 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:32,540 and then, once it is rotating, I just stop the shell. 255 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:34,100 I only stop the shell, 256 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:37,220 but the interior actually continues to rotate. Lovely. 257 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:40,340 And I basically see the exchange of angular momentum, 258 00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:42,500 very similar to what's happening in the neutron star, 259 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:44,780 between the internal component that rotates faster 260 00:12:44,780 --> 00:12:46,420 and the shell that had stopped. 261 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:49,380 In the case of the neutron star, 262 00:12:49,380 --> 00:12:51,580 instead of egg white and yolk inside, 263 00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:55,820 it has exotic forms of matter that can flow without friction. 264 00:12:55,820 --> 00:12:57,620 A superfluid. 265 00:12:57,620 --> 00:12:59,940 We started talking about a neutron star being modelled 266 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:01,740 as like a fluid ball, 267 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:04,820 but the interactions of the superfluid itself 268 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:08,980 are really not driven by this, like, London-sized object, 269 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:11,860 but actually by, like, tiny quantum effects. 270 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:14,740 So the superfluid has a special property, 271 00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:16,620 that it rotates in a very different way 272 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:18,780 by forming these tiny quantum tornadoes. 273 00:13:18,780 --> 00:13:21,500 Really looking at the macro... Exactly. ..and then at the micro, 274 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,780 a-and...well, the nano. 275 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:27,140 Since the first observation of a pulsar, 276 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:30,660 over 4,000 more have been detected. 277 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:32,340 But Jocelyn was on a path 278 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:35,100 that would swiftly take her away from Cambridge, 279 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:38,380 and away from her pulsars, too. 280 00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:44,100 I got engaged to be married between discovering pulsars two and three, 281 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:47,580 and was fool enough to wear the engagement ring into the office. 282 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:48,820 I was very proud of it. 283 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:52,220 And that sent a message that I was leaving. 284 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,780 Because, in those days, married women didn't work. 285 00:13:55,780 --> 00:13:58,820 It implied that your husband couldn't earn enough, 286 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:00,580 if married women worked. 287 00:14:00,580 --> 00:14:02,780 You were going to be a housewife, a wife, 288 00:14:02,780 --> 00:14:05,260 and probably a mother in due course. 289 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:09,660 This wasn't actually my plan, but I see, with hindsight, 290 00:14:09,660 --> 00:14:11,940 that that's the message I was sending out. 291 00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:17,700 Once married, Jocelyn's work was entirely dependent 292 00:14:17,700 --> 00:14:19,460 on her husband's postings. 293 00:14:20,780 --> 00:14:24,460 Husband would say, "It's time I moved to get promotion. 294 00:14:24,460 --> 00:14:26,500 "There's a job going in X. 295 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:29,420 "Is there anything astronomical anywhere near there 296 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:31,180 "that you might get a job?" 297 00:14:31,180 --> 00:14:34,140 So I've had a very disrupted career. 298 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:36,420 It's been great fun, great interest, 299 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,540 but a lot of it's been dictated by where my husband was working. 300 00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:45,660 CHRIS: Since Jocelyn's discovery, 301 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:48,860 the radio sky has continued to surprise. 302 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:52,180 Dr Kaustubh Rajwade, at the University of Oxford, 303 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:55,060 studies the oddballs of the radio family, 304 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:58,820 and what these outsiders can tell us about the cosmos. 305 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:02,020 Hey, how are you? Ah, hey, Chris. Nice to see you. Yeah, you, too. 306 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:05,380 Now, look, you like to look for weird things in the radio sky. 307 00:15:05,380 --> 00:15:06,540 What have you found? 308 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:08,940 Over the past few decades, we have found 309 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:12,180 all sorts of unusual neutron stars. 310 00:15:12,180 --> 00:15:15,780 Back in 2007, I mean, people at that point 311 00:15:15,780 --> 00:15:18,340 were looking for pulsars in data 312 00:15:18,340 --> 00:15:21,060 taken by all these radio telescopes around the world. 313 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:24,100 And often looking in archival data, as well. Yeah, absolutely. 314 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:25,660 In West Virginia University, 315 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:27,500 Duncan Lorimer, who's a professor there, 316 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,500 and his undergraduate student, Dave Narkevic, 317 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,740 they were searching through some of this data 318 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:34,740 taken by the Miryang Radio Telescope in Australia, 319 00:15:34,740 --> 00:15:37,460 looking for pulsars in the Small Magellanic Cloud. 320 00:15:37,460 --> 00:15:38,980 OK, our neighbouring galaxy, yeah. 321 00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:41,140 Yeah, and so, while going through the data, 322 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:45,020 Dave actually found this very interesting single radio burst. 323 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:47,900 So not a repeat? Not like a pulsar, where you get all these pulses? 324 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:49,300 Just one? Just one. 325 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:52,460 And, interestingly, they realised that this burst 326 00:15:52,460 --> 00:15:56,580 could not have come from our galaxy, and also not from the SMC... Mm. 327 00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:58,260 ..but way beyond that. 328 00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:00,660 And the reason that they could figure this out 329 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:03,420 was because of something called the dispersion of radio waves. 330 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:06,820 So, as you know, there's a lot of stuff between pulsars 331 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:08,620 in our galaxy and us, right? Mm-hm. 332 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:11,460 There are these electrons and plasma that's floating around. 333 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:14,180 And so this plasma actually acts like a prism. Mm. 334 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:18,380 And so, which means that the radio waves that are at lower frequencies 335 00:16:18,380 --> 00:16:22,020 are reaching us much later than the radio waves at higher frequency. 336 00:16:22,020 --> 00:16:24,780 Oh, just like... Cos a prism would bend blue light differently 337 00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:27,100 from red light, because of the difference in wavelength? Exactly. 338 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:29,340 Which is the same as difference in frequency. Exactly. OK. 339 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:36,380 We now know these objects as FRBs, or fast radio bursts. 340 00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:39,580 A blast of radiation that, for a few milliseconds, 341 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:42,300 can outshine an entire galaxy. 342 00:16:43,660 --> 00:16:46,780 What do they tell us about the universe and the galaxy 343 00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:49,420 to which their light travels? Yeah, I'm glad you asked that, 344 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:55,220 because we can use them as independent probes of cosmology. 345 00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:57,980 And one of the key aspects in which FRBs can help 346 00:16:57,980 --> 00:17:00,580 is this so-called missing baryons problem. 347 00:17:00,580 --> 00:17:02,540 Baryons, is this just normal matter? 348 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:04,500 Electrons, protons, oxygen, hydrogen, helium, 349 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,340 all the rest of it? Exactly, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 350 00:17:06,340 --> 00:17:07,620 Some of it, we can see. 351 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:10,100 Light is our only source of actually detecting and seeing 352 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:13,460 these baryons in the universe, but a lot of it is so diffuse 353 00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:15,740 that we just cannot see it at any wavelength, 354 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:17,980 like, they're not emitting any radiation. 355 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:22,980 But, because FRBs are so fast, and only last for millisecond, 356 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:25,020 which means that you can see dispersion in them, 357 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:28,300 and then you know that the total delay that you see 358 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:30,780 in your radio band, because of the dispersion, 359 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:32,980 has contributions from your galaxy, 360 00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:35,060 has contributions from the host galaxy, 361 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:37,660 but it also has contribution from the diffuse baryons 362 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:38,740 in the cosmic web. 363 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:41,820 It's really rather lovely that the light from something like an FRB 364 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:44,140 tells us about everything it's passed through. Exactly. 365 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:46,580 And you're literally weighing up the universe. Yeah. 366 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:49,180 So if you have enough FRBs that are well-localised 367 00:17:49,180 --> 00:17:52,540 with well-known distances, all across the sky, 368 00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:54,900 you could map out the cosmic web. Oh, so you just...? 369 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,740 And that's just, I think that that thought, 370 00:17:56,740 --> 00:17:59,620 like, really, you know, gives me, like, shivers. 371 00:18:01,660 --> 00:18:04,900 With the work of physicists like Vanessa and Kaustubh, 372 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:07,180 Jocelyn's legacy is strong today. 373 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:13,340 But, in the wake of her discovery, she endured shocking discrimination. 374 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:20,020 So journalists would interview Tony and I together, ultimately, 375 00:18:20,020 --> 00:18:22,620 and they'd ask Tony about the scientific significance 376 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:24,500 of this experience. 377 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:27,420 And then they'd turn to me for the sexual content. 378 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:29,380 How many boyfriends did I have? 379 00:18:29,380 --> 00:18:32,420 What were my bust, waist, and hip measurements? 380 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:34,420 Really important questions like that. 381 00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:36,180 And the photographer, similarly, 382 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:38,740 "Could I undo some shirt buttons, please?" 383 00:18:38,740 --> 00:18:41,180 It was thoroughly degrading. 384 00:18:41,180 --> 00:18:44,820 Young women were sex objects, full stop. 385 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:47,420 Never mind if you'd made a major scientific discovery, 386 00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:49,260 you're a sex object. 387 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:50,460 Tony did nothing... 388 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:54,700 ..absolutely nothing to stop it. 389 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:01,500 Jocelyn's treatment would extend 390 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,580 to the most prestigious accolade in all of academia. 391 00:19:09,220 --> 00:19:14,100 It was 1974, and I remember the day very well. 392 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,900 I was working in X-ray astronomy by then. 393 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:20,820 This particular day, our satellite has launched 8am in the morning. 394 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:23,180 And, about two minutes past midday, 395 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:25,500 a colleague comes bursting into my office. 396 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,700 "Have you heard the news? Have you heard the news?" 397 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,620 I thought, "Oh, my God. 398 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:32,420 "The satellite's gone in the drink." 399 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:33,660 But it wasn't. 400 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:36,740 It was the announcement of the Nobel Prize award 401 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:39,140 to Tony Hewish and Martin Ryle, 402 00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:41,860 my former supervisor and the head of the group. 403 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:43,340 Well, in essence, it's... 404 00:19:43,340 --> 00:19:47,540 Cambridge's Martin Ryle and Tony Hewish had won the Nobel Prize 405 00:19:47,540 --> 00:19:51,060 for their pioneering research in radio astrophysics - 406 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,900 Ryle for his observations and inventions, 407 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:57,900 and Hewish for his decisive role in the discovery of pulsars... 408 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:01,940 ..while Jocelyn, despite being integral to that work, 409 00:20:01,940 --> 00:20:03,420 missed out on the acclaim. 410 00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:07,460 At the time of the Nobel Prize, 411 00:20:07,460 --> 00:20:12,980 women still weren't regarded as serious in the male world. 412 00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:18,380 It's really only in more recent years that women are recognised 413 00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:21,660 in their own right for their own abilities. 414 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:23,340 Thank goodness. 415 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:27,300 If you have a group of people that all think the same, 416 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:30,540 it's great fun for them, and they do good work. 417 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:33,620 But they fail to see anything out in the wings. 418 00:20:33,620 --> 00:20:35,620 Whereas, if you have a diverse group, 419 00:20:35,620 --> 00:20:37,940 you're more likely to pick up on the new threads. 420 00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:40,580 APPLAUSE 421 00:20:40,580 --> 00:20:43,300 Jocelyn has since won numerous awards for her work, 422 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:46,700 donating prize money to fund the Bell Burnell Scholarship. 423 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:51,900 PhD student Aida Seye, 424 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:54,060 from the Mullard Space Science Laboratory, 425 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:55,420 is a current recipient. 426 00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:59,740 Hello, Aida. Hi. Great to meet you. So nice to meet you. Same. 427 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:02,020 I gather you're at MSSL? Yes, I am, yeah. 428 00:21:02,020 --> 00:21:03,740 Yeah. Wonderful place. Yeah, thank you. 429 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:04,940 I worked there for a while. 430 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:07,060 Yeah, I've heard we're on the same office. 431 00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:09,660 Really? On the first floor, yeah. That's right. Yeah. 432 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:12,980 I had the desk in the window, looking out over the front door. 433 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:15,020 Yeah. Could see all the comings and goings. 434 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:17,620 Yeah. So, exactly what are you working on, Aida? 435 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,460 What's your thesis going to be about? 436 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:22,580 So just trying to make the most out of the data 437 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:24,660 from the Gaia satellite... Right. 438 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:26,260 ..which was launched a few years back... Yes. 439 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:29,900 ..and has been quite remarkable with galactic astronomy. Yeah. 440 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,380 So just trying to use that data 441 00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:34,260 to understand the structure of the Milky Way, 442 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:36,460 understanding where the spiral arms are, 443 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:40,580 the different populations... Yeah. ..and the bulge and kinematics, 444 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:45,020 and, yeah, just trying to understand the history of our galaxy. 445 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:48,460 It's quite complicated to do that, because we live inside it. Yeah. 446 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:50,620 If it was another galaxy that you could look at... 447 00:21:50,620 --> 00:21:53,100 Yeah. ..it'd be a lot simpler. It would be simpler, yeah. 448 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:55,820 So have you always wanted to do astrophysics? 449 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:58,020 Or has it been quite a journey for you? 450 00:21:58,020 --> 00:22:01,660 It has been a journey, I feel almost like a serendipity thing. 451 00:22:01,660 --> 00:22:05,660 I liked maths in primary school and secondary school. Good. 452 00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:08,660 I liked solving equations and doing algebra, 453 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:11,580 and astrophysics just sounded cool to me, 454 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:13,380 and I just wanted to try it. Yeah. 455 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,580 And I tried it, and I fell in love. And here we are. 456 00:22:16,580 --> 00:22:18,500 Yeah, that's fantastic. 457 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:20,380 Well, thanks, also, thanks for the scholarship. 458 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:23,420 So, what prompted you to do that? 459 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:29,100 Well, I was awarded $3 million US by the Breakthrough Foundation, 460 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,820 and had to think rather rapidly what to do with that money. 461 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:35,340 Because, if it's announced, you've got that kind of thing, 462 00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:38,060 the phone keeps ringing. THEY CHUCKLE 463 00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:41,140 So that's when I decided to give the money 464 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:45,260 to the Institute of Physics to set up these scholarships - 465 00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,740 you've got one, congratulations - 466 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:50,980 to enable people from minority groups, 467 00:22:50,980 --> 00:22:55,460 minority in physics groups - which includes all women - 468 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:57,140 to do PhDs. 469 00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:01,180 Yeah. It has helped me, so... Good. THEY CHUCKLE 470 00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:03,540 I did my PhD in Cambridge. 471 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:05,820 I'd never been that far south before, 472 00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:07,500 and it was really scary. 473 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,660 There was all these young men walking in the streets, 474 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:12,420 talking in terribly loud voices about what Hegel said, 475 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:13,820 and what Hegel didn't say. 476 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:16,140 I thought, "Oh, my God. 477 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:18,740 "They've made a mistake admitting me." 478 00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:22,060 And there were very few women in Cambridge at that time, as well. 479 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:26,100 I really suffered what's known as impostor syndrome. 480 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:28,780 I don't know, has that ever affected you? 481 00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:31,460 Because you're also a minority person in another way. 482 00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:35,340 I also went to University of Cambridge for... Right. 483 00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:38,420 And definitely, the impostor syndrome was, 484 00:23:38,420 --> 00:23:41,460 yeah, it was off the charts. 485 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:43,460 Because there's not many women doing physics. 486 00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:45,700 There's also not many people of colour doing physics. 487 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,580 I feel like I'm representing, 488 00:23:47,580 --> 00:23:50,780 so, like, every person of colour, or every woman, 489 00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:53,340 that I have to do it so well, because if I, you know... 490 00:23:53,340 --> 00:23:56,660 If I don't do well, then it's going to reflect badly on them. Yes. 491 00:23:56,660 --> 00:24:01,740 So, it... Yeah, it doesn't feel nice. 492 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:04,380 But, at the same time, it is a... 493 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:06,860 It's a great source of motivation, 494 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:11,180 to try and, you know, be as good as possible. 495 00:24:11,180 --> 00:24:13,500 I always felt that, if I did something stupid, 496 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,460 they'd say, "Oh, trust a woman. No more women," you know? Yeah. 497 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:21,220 I guess any minority is under pressure. Yeah. 498 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:23,620 Yeah. Pressure not to let the side down. 499 00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:26,060 The more of us there are, the easier it gets. 500 00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:28,580 So, please, hang in there. Don't give up. 501 00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:31,100 Yeah, I won't. Yeah. Good. 502 00:24:35,620 --> 00:24:37,220 MAGGIE: If you're feeling inspired 503 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:40,260 to do some of your own astronomical exploring this month, 504 00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:42,540 then Pete has got you covered. 505 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:45,740 Over the coming months, there are three phenomena which give us 506 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:49,940 a perfect opportunity to do a refresher on terminology 507 00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:52,660 which astronomers may meet quite often - 508 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:56,580 occultations, conjunctions, and eclipses. 509 00:24:56,580 --> 00:25:00,420 A conjunction is a term which describes when two or more objects, 510 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:02,940 which are normally vast distances apart, 511 00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:05,460 appear in the same area of sky together. 512 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:08,620 Or, if you want to get technical, it's when those objects share 513 00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:11,300 the same set of celestial coordinates. 514 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:16,020 To see Venus and Jupiter at conjunction, 515 00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:20,220 look towards the north-east horizon around 02:40am 516 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:22,420 on the morning of the 12th of August. 517 00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:25,860 While the two planets are really located 518 00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:27,900 hundreds of millions of miles apart, 519 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,340 their positioning makes them appear close together, 520 00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:35,260 about two full moon's widths from each other in the night sky. 521 00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:38,900 You can spot them again at the same time on subsequent mornings, 522 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:40,860 with the gap between them increasing. 523 00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:43,780 Next, we have occultations, 524 00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:47,300 and these occur when one object moves in front of another, 525 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:51,060 hiding all or part of the more distant object from view. 526 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:56,100 The upcoming occultation of Venus 527 00:25:56,100 --> 00:26:00,740 will take place during the day on Friday, the 19th of September. 528 00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:04,180 You can find Venus low above the eastern horizon, 529 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:08,620 with the moon in brightening dawn twilight around 06:30. 530 00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:13,260 The occultation will take place between 12:45 and 14:10, 531 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:15,140 so early afternoon. 532 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:17,540 Please take care and use the correct protection 533 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:20,140 when viewing through binoculars or a telescope, 534 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:22,660 as you can cause permanent damage to your eyes 535 00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:24,500 if you look at the sun through a lens. 536 00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:29,940 Finally, in our trio of terminology, we have eclipses. 537 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:31,820 The term eclipse means "to obscure" - 538 00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:36,260 so, like occultations, it's one object hiding another. 539 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:37,900 But typically with eclipses, 540 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,420 we talk about one body casting its shadow onto another. 541 00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:46,660 A UK lunar eclipse is coming up on the 7th of September, 542 00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:49,180 but it will be a tricky one to spot. 543 00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:51,460 As the moon rises above the eastern horizon 544 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:53,940 around 8pm, it will be coming out 545 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:55,700 of its total eclipse - 546 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,580 so look out for a dark moon 547 00:26:57,580 --> 00:26:59,820 as it starts to appear. 548 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:01,660 Once it has reached a few degrees 549 00:27:01,660 --> 00:27:02,940 above the horizon, 550 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:04,780 you'll see it forming an odd shape 551 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:07,260 as it exits totality. 552 00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:09,260 The main part of the eclipse 553 00:27:09,260 --> 00:27:10,620 ends around 9pm. 554 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:13,660 As the summer comes to an end, 555 00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:16,020 and the longer and darker nights come in, 556 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:19,260 there are plenty more events involving the planets and stars 557 00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:20,620 to look out for. 558 00:27:20,620 --> 00:27:23,900 And you can find out more in our detailed star guides 559 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,540 available on our website at... 560 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,620 You can also find out details of our Flickr account there. 561 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:37,060 And if you take any photographs, you can upload them, 562 00:27:37,060 --> 00:27:39,740 and you never know - they might appear on the programme. 563 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:42,100 Here are some of our recent favourites. 564 00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:57,060 One of the things I have learnt is, 565 00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:59,420 if you don't get a Nobel Prize, 566 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:02,700 you get every other prize that moves. 567 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,540 Whereas if you do get a Nobel Prize, nobody feels they can match it, 568 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:08,260 so you don't get anything else. 569 00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:12,220 So I've had parties almost every year for different prizes. 570 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:13,500 Fantastic. 571 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:16,180 It's amazing to think that 572 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:18,820 what started as nothing more than a blip on chart paper 573 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:21,260 became the constellation of exotic objects 574 00:28:21,260 --> 00:28:23,340 that astronomers study today - 575 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:26,540 all thanks to the fabulous, indefatigable, marvellous 576 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:28,500 Professor Jocelyn Bell Burnell. 577 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,540 Before we go, we're excited to announce that we're joining forces 578 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:34,940 with the hit Radio 4 series Curious Cases 579 00:28:34,940 --> 00:28:38,620 in a special programme solving space mysteries sent in by you. 580 00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:42,900 Submit your space mystery questions to... 581 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:47,900 Goodnight. 45673

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