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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:10,700 IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT 2 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:45,419 Intense. 3 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:11,819 Wow. 4 00:02:11,980 --> 00:02:14,339 The record is from the seventies. 5 00:02:17,660 --> 00:02:19,179 Intense. 6 00:02:24,340 --> 00:02:27,059 They were into it back then already. 7 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:04,259 My goodness, what an elaborate sleeve. 8 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:30,979 At this point in 2016... 9 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:33,259 At the moment, 10 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:36,299 there is a lot of very good music. 11 00:06:37,740 --> 00:06:41,019 A lot of good producers have established themselves. 12 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:43,739 Everything has become easier, 13 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:46,779 so there is this huge variety of music. 14 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:50,739 And that's great for a lot of people, 15 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:54,139 but for many others it's overwhelming. 16 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:58,459 Big hits can't develop the way they did in the past, 17 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:01,459 when DJs often decided on two or three things. 18 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:04,059 That's got very, very hard. 19 00:07:04,220 --> 00:07:07,139 And all I can say is: 20 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:10,379 the tapestry is huge and it's endless too. 21 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:13,139 That's what the music feels like right now. 22 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:17,379 It's immense. An enormous variety. 23 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:20,499 And you can go in any direction. 24 00:07:20,660 --> 00:07:23,779 So you can become very specialized, 25 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:29,899 and it's virtually impossible to describe all the different genres and categories. 26 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:35,779 And for someone who has no clue, it's really hard to explain it to them. 27 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:41,219 The tapestry is very, very refined, 28 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:44,619 the pattern is barely discernible, 29 00:07:44,780 --> 00:07:47,659 and you have to examine it for a long, long time 30 00:07:47,820 --> 00:07:50,139 to recognize its structure 31 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:53,059 and see the individual colours. 32 00:07:53,220 --> 00:07:56,299 To get there, you have to listen to tons of music, 33 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:58,659 devote a lot of time to the music, 34 00:07:58,820 --> 00:08:03,299 and really delve into old records, 35 00:08:03,460 --> 00:08:08,299 before you can really grasp the foundation. 36 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:11,019 And what I really like 37 00:08:11,180 --> 00:08:14,019 is that the house music I'm involved in 38 00:08:14,180 --> 00:08:17,099 reinvents itself every five years or so. 39 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:22,939 It revolves like a merry-go-round, always arriving at the same place again. 40 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,739 But the funny thing is, each time it's arranged differently, 41 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:31,019 the sounds are a bit different, and suddenly everyone is on board again. 42 00:08:31,180 --> 00:08:33,779 And it's really nice to watch 43 00:08:33,940 --> 00:08:39,339 how young people then identify more strongly with the new part, 44 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,539 and that creates this link 45 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:46,859 to where the old DJs are sitting, so to speak. 46 00:08:47,020 --> 00:08:50,979 So Ricardo, Roman, me, all the DJs 47 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:53,459 will always reach into the old record box, 48 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:57,659 take out the old records, and mix them up with the new stuff. 49 00:08:57,820 --> 00:09:01,099 And the kids come and ask about the old stuff, 50 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:04,339 thinking that it's new stuff, but it's not new, 51 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,339 it's 20 years old. 52 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:09,339 And that's really interesting. 53 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,179 But the evolution goes on and on. 54 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:17,379 I have no idea where it will end. I really don't see an end to it. 55 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,299 LONG LIVE CHILE! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE! 56 00:11:48,460 --> 00:11:51,619 PRESIDENT ALLENDE'S LAST SPEECH 57 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:11,539 Before I started collecting music, 58 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:15,739 buying records, and later mixing music myself, 59 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:19,259 long before that, I was already into the scene. 60 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:22,179 Because that kind of music always appealed to me. 61 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:25,219 And here in Switzerland, 62 00:12:25,380 --> 00:12:29,579 and especially in Geneva, there were no events whatsoever. 63 00:12:29,740 --> 00:12:34,299 It was very difficult to find parties where they played electronic music. 64 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:40,059 That was in the very early nineties. 65 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:43,379 You had to go over to the German part of Switzerland. 66 00:12:43,540 --> 00:12:47,419 But the focus there was mainly on trance. 67 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:51,059 If you wanted something more like house, 68 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:54,059 you had to go over to Germany. 69 00:12:54,220 --> 00:12:59,779 So we would take these "weekend expeditions", 70 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:01,979 to Frankfurt, mostly. 71 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:04,619 I think that was before the nineties. 72 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:08,019 The club was Omen in Frankfurt. 73 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,579 After that we started going to Munich. 74 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:19,179 There was an area in Munich 75 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:23,979 with 3 club called Ultraschall, inside what used to be Riem Airport. 76 00:13:24,140 --> 00:13:26,299 I was very young at the time 77 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:29,619 and I went looking for that music everywhere. 78 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:32,539 I didn't find it in France or in Switzerland. 79 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:36,739 It was the scene in Germany that appealed to me. 80 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:38,739 Ever since then, 81 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:43,379 I've wanted to be more than just a spectator. 82 00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:46,259 I wanted to take the music home with me too. 83 00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:51,339 But you couldn't find it in the stores, so you had to find other ways to get it. 84 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:58,219 And through my German network, 85 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:02,059 I had access to that music, I bought it, 86 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:04,139 and started spinning records. 87 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:07,259 And before long, I got an offer from a club in Geneva 88 00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:11,179 that was always at the avant-garde of electronic music, 89 00:14:11,340 --> 00:14:14,539 a club called Weetamix, which still exists today. 90 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:19,299 They invited me to play there as resident DJ. 91 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:22,859 So I played there two or three times a month, 92 00:14:23,020 --> 00:14:26,659 often as an opener for international guests. 93 00:14:26,820 --> 00:14:30,219 So gradually, we started getting music 94 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:33,939 that was a bit more refined than what we'd had before. 95 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:39,299 Labels like Playhouse, Perlon, DJs like Zip, Ata, 96 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:41,459 and Losoul as well, 97 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:46,459 Heiko MSO and others, they were here all the time. 98 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:50,739 And out of this exchange developed 99 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:55,979 some good ties between us. 100 00:14:56,140 --> 00:14:59,019 Zip invited me to Germany 101 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:02,259 to DJ at the Panorama Bar in Berlin. 102 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:04,859 That was in 2003. 103 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:09,699 From the start, it was always the music that connected us. 104 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:13,699 We weren't from the same place, or from the same generation. 105 00:15:13,860 --> 00:15:17,939 It was just the music that connected us and you could only find it there. 106 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:44,499 What did we have here? We had Bhagwan discos. 107 00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:49,059 Bhagwan discos were basically our uptight parents 108 00:15:49,220 --> 00:15:51,099 liberating themselves. 109 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:55,059 It has something to do with rhythm, something like, 110 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:57,579 "I'll dress up all in white 111 00:15:57,740 --> 00:16:01,019 so no one can tell who I am," and off it goes. 112 00:16:01,180 --> 00:16:04,499 A good sound system, loud music, 113 00:16:04,660 --> 00:16:06,939 and "let it all hang loose!" 114 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:11,299 Why did they stop organizing them? They were pretty cool. 115 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:17,179 But our scene developed out of that, in a way. 116 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:21,499 My mom wasn't a Bhagwan, unfortunately... 117 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:28,619 My mom was a strict Catholic. From Spain. 118 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:33,379 And when I was 14, I had to be home by 8 p.m. 119 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:35,699 But through the music, 120 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:38,339 and what the music gave me... 121 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,899 My neighbour, who was a black G.I., 122 00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:43,819 gave me a Herbie Hancock record. 123 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:47,739 I listened to it and then heard Kraftwerk on the radio. 124 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,939 And that became my tapestry, which I just wove together. 125 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:53,459 And I thought, "Wow, what is this?" 126 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:57,499 I had this sense of liberation, a liberation that enabled me 127 00:16:57,660 --> 00:17:00,659 to get out of the house and get into house music. 128 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:04,299 Out onto the dance floor. And I saw what went on there. 129 00:17:04,460 --> 00:17:07,579 You play a record and the people over there start moving. 130 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:10,059 All these emotions are released. 131 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:14,859 It was such a fascinating and profound experience that I said, 132 00:17:15,020 --> 00:17:18,539 "Okay, I'm going to try to do what that guy on TV is doing. 133 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:23,299 He's got those two turntables, but what's that thing in the middle?" 134 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:26,499 It was so exciting to me, so fascinating. 135 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:29,939 And I could see all this technology, 136 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:33,219 I was interested in it, and I tried to figure it out. 137 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:37,099 That's how I was catapulted out, with this immense force, 138 00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:39,179 out into the night. 139 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:41,899 And I realized what was going on out there. 140 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,499 There was no end. 141 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:45,979 I could dance as long as I wanted. 142 00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:13,499 It's truly an adventure. 143 00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:18,859 There are very few secure channels between the musicians. 144 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:23,059 So from the drummer's bass drum, 145 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:26,219 there's a kind of channel with a trigger signal 146 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:29,139 over to Max's bass synthesizer. 147 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,139 That's basically the only channel, 148 00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,419 everything else is more or less played spontaneously on top, 149 00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:39,579 and I click in manually with my modular system. 150 00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:41,819 So there's a tap button 151 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:45,219 which I tap twice, depending on the beat. 152 00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:48,779 And that launches my system, and Max's system too. 153 00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:52,819 And so that can go in any direction. 154 00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:57,859 Luckily nothing went wrong on Sunday, but that can happen. 155 00:28:58,020 --> 00:29:02,019 That kind of "dis-control", if you will, 156 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:05,019 that moment of "uncontrol" 157 00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:08,139 is basically a frequency which, 158 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,939 before it can become rhythmic, is often too free-form. 159 00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:15,539 So in order to turn it into a rhythmic element, for example, 160 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:19,819 which only has a short transient, like a "bing" or "bong� or "boong", 161 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:24,179 you need an enveloping curve, something that controls it. 162 00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:26,739 So, as I was saying, 163 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:31,019 one third of all this equipment is made up of controllers, 164 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:34,899 and the rest would just love to scream out all the time. 165 00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:38,579 or make some noise or other. 166 00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:40,779 But that's kept in check. 167 00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:45,219 Someone tries to control it, and that, ultimately, is the music. 168 00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:49,499 Other musicians have certain frequencies available to them, 169 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:54,499 but in electronic music, we have all the frequencies available to us. 170 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:58,499 The others can only make use of a certain frequency range. 171 00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:02,059 And everyone tries out different things, 172 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:04,819 little by little, to see what works. 173 00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:09,419 It's kind of like a lively conversation between different people. 174 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:13,859 Some people are having a dialogue and then others interrupt, 175 00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,499 and it forms a kind of consensus. 176 00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:19,859 That's pretty much what happens in music. 177 00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:52,699 You're playing to different worlds, of course. 178 00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:55,099 A dance floor is a world 179 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:57,859 where there is a very clear language, 180 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:00,699 a rhythmic language 181 00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:04,219 with some melodic dabs of colour, I so to speak. 182 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:08,259 And here in this jazz or sound concert, 183 00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:12,179 even the musicians don't know what's happening, 184 00:33:12,340 --> 00:33:14,019 or what will happen. 185 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:17,979 But for me, it's always the same thing. 186 00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:20,539 No matter if I'm standing on stage, 187 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,899 playing some strange popping or creaking sounds, 188 00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:28,659 or if I'm playing it in a club, or listening to it at home. 189 00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:33,339 Or even if I do it with my own mouth or hear those sounds around me, 190 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,819 I always try to bring it together under the same roof, 191 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:40,419 I always try to be the same person. 192 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,779 This place is a big soundscape. 193 00:36:49,780 --> 00:36:53,859 And sounds are ultimately the inspiration for music. 194 00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:59,819 You have the sounds of insects alongside the traffic noise. 195 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:04,579 I used to lie down in the stairwell, right in front of the door, 196 00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:09,059 listening to the draft which carried resonant tones, 197 00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:11,619 and to me they were melodies. 198 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,939 It's important to recognize the difference in volume 199 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:20,739 at festivals, parties and clubs. 200 00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:25,139 And here, where you really have to listen. 201 00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:29,579 Your ears get sensitized. 202 00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:34,299 What I do is more on the quiet side anyway, 203 00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:37,099 so I'm naturally more interested 204 00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:40,579 in what creeps and crawls beneath the surface. 205 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,379 It's certainly... 206 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:46,699 a source of inspiration. 207 00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:50,059 In general, but especially here. 208 00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:57,459 On the one side, you have the open plain towards the west. 209 00:37:57,620 --> 00:38:00,219 Paris and New York are that way. 210 00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:02,459 And over here in the basin, 211 00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:04,899 the acoustics change. 212 00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:07,539 They get trapped between the mountains. 213 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:11,859 There are other places too. the Scheffelterrasse by the castle, 214 00:38:12,020 --> 00:38:17,419 where the arches reflect the sounds of the city like parabolic mirrors. 215 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:21,739 So whenever I go for a walk here, 216 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,259 my ears take a walk too. 217 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:51,419 Well, to be an astronaut... 218 00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:56,379 I'm from the generation that saw the moon landing as a kid, 219 00:38:56,540 --> 00:39:00,379 and the outer space missions as well, especially Apollo 13. 220 00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:05,739 When was that? 1973? I was seven and experienced all of that. 221 00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,139 "They're up there. We don't know how to get them back." 222 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,499 That really fascinated me. 223 00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:17,139 Another key experience was my father taking me to see Stanley Kubrick's 2001 224 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:20,459 You had to be six to see the film and I wasn't. 225 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:23,619 I remember the cashier saying, "He's not six yet", 226 00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:26,739 and my dad saying, "But I'm accompanying him." 227 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:31,539 I must've seen that film at least 30 times in the course of my life. 228 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:34,539 It left such an impression on me as a child. 229 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:37,499 That film really shaped me 230 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:40,899 for the rest of my life. 231 00:39:41,060 --> 00:39:44,099 The wish or dream of becoming an astronaut 232 00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:48,699 was shattered early on because my eyesight wasn't good enough. 233 00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:52,019 And ultimately, those ascetic preparations, 234 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,379 the total discipline and the complete isolation 235 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:58,339 wouldn't be my thing either. 236 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,419 But it was always an idea that fascinated me. 237 00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:06,659 But to make the link back to this place... 238 00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:10,779 At least it's a city of science. 239 00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:14,219 You have astrophysics. the Max Planck Institute, EMBL. 240 00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:17,339 My father was an astrophysicist 241 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,219 and worked at the Max Planck Institute. 242 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:23,419 So there are those links. There's the observatory. 243 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:26,899 Not a planetarium: an observatory with a telescope 244 00:40:27,060 --> 00:40:31,019 to peer into the heavens, dating back to the Art Nouveau period. 245 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,939 So there are things here which tie into the topic. 246 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,579 But ultimately, it's just a metaphor. 247 00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:41,859 Sun Ra, not only of Saturn, but of music itself. 248 00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:46,219 Music, the bodiless way of travelling or moving, 249 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:49,019 in your imagination or however. 250 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:54,099 To me, it's the most fascinating form of art that exists, 251 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:57,099 because it can't be grasped. 252 00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:01,819 It can be measured in space and it makes atoms move. 253 00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:04,819 So you can see it, in a way. 254 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:09,139 But ultimately, it's something that flows through you. 255 00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:12,619 And by conserving it, 256 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:16,619 by writing it down in the form of sheet music, 257 00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:18,819 it has become reproducible. 258 00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:22,459 The effect can be reproduced at will, and doesn't cost a thing. 259 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,699 And that's unique. food is consumed, you eat it 260 00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:27,579 it gets digested, 261 00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:30,699 then you move on to pick the next berry. 262 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:36,419 But music is like a Pandora's box 263 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:41,459 where you can keep reaching in, where you can try... 264 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:47,019 to remain open to it, to hear new things and to integrate them, 265 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:49,379 but much of it just remains the same. 266 00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:53,139 Miles Davis' trumpet for example, or the Beatles, 267 00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:56,539 or Jo�o Gilberto, Jobim... 268 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,219 Bach... 269 00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:01,379 Chopin... 270 00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:08,219 All of these things remain coordinates in the solar system. 271 00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:14,019 What's funny is that some planets regain their relevance, 272 00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:18,659 and you want to go back, while others might drift further apart. 273 00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:21,699 At any rate, music is a cosmos of its own. 274 00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:25,579 That's the larger parallel that can be drawn. 275 00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:28,699 And the borders between physics, mathematics 276 00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:32,219 and music and philosophy are absolutely fluid. 277 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:34,579 Seen from a broader perspective, 278 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:39,019 it even extends to the theological and spiritual realm. 279 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:43,219 For something that is essentially without a value and a body, 280 00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:44,979 It's incredible 281 00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:47,899 and has fascinated me my whole life. 282 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:52,379 Like perhaps nothing else. Apart from animals maybe. 283 00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:54,739 And all of the wonders of nature. 284 00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:58,939 And the parallels that can be drawn: octaves as... 285 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:04,459 dual frequencies, frequency ratios, 286 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:09,739 which make so much sense in nature and in physics. 287 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,859 All of this can be transferred and applied. 288 00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:20,019 For as long as anyone can remember, NASA's website... 289 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:25,259 has shown phenomena from space. those jets, for example, 290 00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:30,099 those waves of material shooting forth from supernovas. 291 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:33,779 You can hear those things, but you hear nothing in outer space 292 00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:36,819 because sound doesn't carry, 293 00:43:38,140 --> 00:43:41,459 so these inaudible processes are made audible. 294 00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:45,179 But it's funny that the other way around, 295 00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:48,579 you can take these phenomena that are so hard to grasp 296 00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:52,499 and understand them better by making them audible. 297 00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:56,779 Yes. And I am 298 00:43:57,220 --> 00:44:00,619 a fan of music that's been composed and conceived, 299 00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:04,619 but what I meant with the sound of the wind under a door 300 00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:09,339 is that music in chaos or in nature is also fascinating. 301 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:13,539 When I was in my early twenties, I met a fringe scientist, 302 00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:17,819 who approached music from the perspective of physics and biology. 303 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:21,139 He started to take yeast cultures 304 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:24,059 and to make their reproduction audible. 305 00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:26,019 And to some extent... 306 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:32,619 these functions result in incredibly interesting and audible algorithms. 307 00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:34,859 So it's pretty fascinating... 308 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,539 how the information contained in the universe, 309 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:44,419 at visible and invisible levels, visible light, invisible waves, 310 00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:48,659 how they always interlink and interlace with each other. 311 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:53,699 How mind and body, and everything... 312 00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:57,699 It's the ultimate psychedelic experience 313 00:44:57,860 --> 00:45:01,059 to understand that everything is one, so to speak. 314 00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:07,419 And conversely, to understand that one thing also contains everything. 315 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:13,299 So, there's an apple hanging next to you. 316 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:18,259 - Can you make a connection? - Apples, Apple computer. Newton, gravity. 317 00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:23,739 When I was younger, me and my stepfather 318 00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:27,379 used to build those spaceships as well, 319 00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:32,299 and eventually that transitioned seamlessly into building instruments. 320 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:37,579 My stepfather, who helped me a lot with that stuff, 321 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:41,899 took me to the orchards and we fed apples to the horses for the first time. 322 00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:45,699 I'll never forget it. It was a meadow just like this one. 323 00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:48,379 So that's immediately what came to mind. 324 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:51,099 "You know that apple tree." 325 00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:54,419 But the apple as such... Adam and Eve and all that, 326 00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:57,539 we could make an entire movie about that. 327 00:50:24,620 --> 00:50:28,179 In Paris, we were doing some filming, 328 00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:31,219 a few days after the attacks in Brussels, 329 00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:33,899 a couple of months after the Paris attacks, 330 00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:36,699 maybe a few weeks before the next attack. 331 00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:41,899 What effect does that have on you, on your job 332 00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:44,419 and on the places where you work? 333 00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:50,459 What was interesting is that on the evening of the first Paris attack, 334 00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:54,339 the Charlie Hebdo attack, I was playing in Paris at the Rex Club. 335 00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,099 And I feared the worst, 336 00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:00,499 and it was all very shocking, of course, 337 00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,139 and the whole thing didn't feel good at all. 338 00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,419 You didn't know if the event should take place or not. 339 00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:10,339 The streets were deserted. and there were police everywhere. 340 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,979 The trip from the airport into the city 341 00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:16,779 felt really different. 342 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:20,659 with flashing lights and roadblocks and all of that. 343 00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:23,459 And then, strangely enough, 344 00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:27,859 the evening was extremely... ecstatic, almost. 345 00:51:28,020 --> 00:51:31,619 The vibe was great and there were loads of people. 346 00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:34,099 But it's a very ambivalent thing. 347 00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:36,899 When the most recent attack in Paris happened, 348 00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:39,059 I was playing at Fabric in London. 349 00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:44,339 At dinner, I looked down at my phone and realized it was happening again. 350 00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:50,419 And it doesn't feel good or right at all. 351 00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:55,419 Ultimately, I never really know how to justify a party. 352 00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,979 That evening, you could tell that people were more occupied 353 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:05,579 with trying to get the latest news on their smartphones, 354 00:52:05,740 --> 00:52:09,259 especially at the beginning of the event, 355 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:11,619 than focusing on the party. 356 00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:15,339 At any rate, what's going on right now is really distressing. 357 00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:20,619 You can't see exactly where it will lead, or whether it will ever end. 358 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:26,539 When I played in Tel Aviv for the first time many years ago, 359 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:31,539 I had to go through a checkpoint like everyone else. 360 00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:35,939 A security check, like the checks at airports. 361 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:41,339 And at that time, it all seemed very far away to me. 362 00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:45,859 And now I'd say that it's moved very close to all of us. 363 00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:54,219 A club is very vulnerable as it is. 364 00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:58,299 It exists to allow you to break out of your normal life, 365 00:52:58,460 --> 00:53:03,099 to let go of all the rules that you're otherwise subject to. 366 00:53:03,260 --> 00:53:08,899 And if such a situation becomes normalcy, so to speak, 367 00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:11,939 if you can't be safe in a place like that, 368 00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,499 it changes something, at least temporarily. 369 00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:18,699 At some point, it probably becomes kind of routine. 370 00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:22,379 But we're not at that point yet. 371 00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:27,019 We're still at the point where people feel extremely unsettled. 372 00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:30,099 And you can only hope 373 00:53:30,260 --> 00:53:33,579 that it doesn't become a target. 374 00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:43,659 It would be asking too much, because I could never do justice to it 375 00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:46,979 by striking the right chord. 376 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:49,339 Instead, I do what I do, 377 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,139 I do what I'm good at, 378 00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:56,659 but I'm not the master of ceremonies 379 00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:01,459 who finds the right chord whenever disaster strikes somewhere. 380 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,499 That's asking too much. No one can do that. 381 00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:08,819 I think it's much more important, in fact, to say, 382 00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:12,779 "What we're doing here is important." 383 00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:17,699 And the current situation is making this even clearer. 384 00:54:17,860 --> 00:54:20,859 That it's a very vulnerable situation. 385 00:54:21,020 --> 00:54:24,819 but that it's essential for a lot of people. 386 00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:27,299 It's a legitimate thing 387 00:54:27,460 --> 00:54:30,339 to live your life in this way. 388 00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:36,459 So I just hope we'll soon be able to do that again without feeling scared. 389 00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:56,739 I think that music 390 00:59:56,900 --> 01:00:00,659 had a different significance back then. 391 01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:05,019 Also with regard to religion. 392 01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:09,899 During Calvin's time in Geneva, 393 01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:12,179 music and entertainment 394 01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:15,339 were prohibited and neglected. 395 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:18,139 During that period, 396 01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:21,659 people were living with a certain degree of anxiety. 397 01:00:22,420 --> 01:00:26,859 Everyone wants to enjoy themselves, it's part of human nature. 398 01:00:27,020 --> 01:00:29,059 So this prohibition 399 01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:32,139 was like forbidding people from living. 400 01:00:33,740 --> 01:00:38,379 They were rejecting the idea of living a full life. 401 01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,739 And I think that this had 402 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,099 certain consequences. 403 01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:53,139 If you assign a function to music, and say it's a negative function, 404 01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:56,139 you turn it into a pejorative, negative element. 405 01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,779 And that's a dangerous thing to do. 406 01:01:00,020 --> 01:01:04,379 There is music in religion. There's religious singing. 407 01:01:04,540 --> 01:01:07,619 And there's this idea 408 01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:13,219 of repressing music as entertainment, at least in certain religions. 409 01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:19,459 Certain religions prohibit dancing at parties, 410 01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:22,379 because music is only allowed to be religious. 411 01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:27,899 So there certainly is a relationship 412 01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:30,139 between music and religion. 413 01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:32,779 Nowadays, there are certain countries 414 01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,059 that neglect both music and religion. 415 01:01:36,220 --> 01:01:39,659 In some countries in the north, 416 01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:43,099 there is no kind of musical communion, 417 01:01:43,260 --> 01:01:45,379 there is no communal singing. 418 01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:48,979 People are timid, there's no singing, no talking. 419 01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:52,899 Some Nordic countries really repress these kinds of things. 420 01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:59,539 So there's a lot more cold techno music coming from those countries 421 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:03,499 than from southern Spain or southern Italy. 422 01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:06,219 There's an obvious difference. 423 01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:20,259 Of course. 424 01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:29,699 I travel with a lot of records. 425 01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:34,939 To make sure that I'm able 426 01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:38,219 to take the people 427 01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,539 where I want to have them. 428 01:02:43,180 --> 01:02:47,299 You can't just arrive somewhere, 429 01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:50,739 force your message onto the people 430 01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:52,659 and expect them to receive it. 431 01:02:52,820 --> 01:02:55,099 It requires a certain finesse 432 01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:58,699 to get to the point where people listen to you. 433 01:02:58,860 --> 01:03:01,419 And then you can communicate your message. 434 01:03:01,580 --> 01:03:05,019 So I make sure I have a wide range of records 435 01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:09,619 in case I want to play something a bit cooler, a bit more reserved. 436 01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:11,739 Or, on the other hand, 437 01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:15,299 maybe something more cheerful at the beginning. 438 01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:18,859 And then I'll take them where I want them to go. 439 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:22,059 But I need time for that. One hour is not enough. 440 01:03:22,220 --> 01:03:25,339 I need two or three hours to achieve that. 441 01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:27,859 And it doesn't always work. 442 01:03:29,740 --> 01:03:33,739 - When it works, it's poetry. Or... - Exactly. 443 01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,939 When it works... 444 01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:43,579 When it works, it's a divine moment of communion. 445 01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:55,939 It's a real climax. 446 01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,019 And if it doesn't work, 447 01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:04,059 somehow it's not so bad either. 448 01:04:04,580 --> 01:04:08,219 Then you have to try another approach, 449 01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:11,459 try to present it differently, 450 01:04:11,620 --> 01:04:13,619 to get things moving. 451 01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:17,179 If it worked every time, you wouldn't make any progress. 452 01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:20,259 You could stop when the year was out. 453 01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:45,019 You have to go a longway back to answer that. 454 01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:49,539 In Germany, electronic music fortunately... 455 01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:56,379 it emerged as early as the 1950s and 1960s, 456 01:04:56,540 --> 01:04:58,499 through people like Stockhausen. 457 01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:01,299 And it developed slowly from there, 458 01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:04,699 with a lot of musical experimentation. 459 01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:08,299 Unfortunately, it didn't get much recognition 460 01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:11,139 and visibility in German society 461 01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:18,819 People like Conny Plank 462 01:05:18,980 --> 01:05:22,379 then took it a step further. 463 01:05:22,540 --> 01:05:24,499 That led to Krautrock. 464 01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:26,819 That led to Kraftwerk. 465 01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:30,659 And as a result, the German influence 466 01:05:30,820 --> 01:05:33,299 spread to the US. 467 01:05:33,460 --> 01:05:35,539 The Americans loved our stuffy. 468 01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:39,019 The black community couldn't get enough of it, 469 01:05:39,180 --> 01:05:43,059 this harsh, electronic, cold dance music. 470 01:05:43,220 --> 01:05:46,819 That's how they described it, and they were totally fascinated 471 01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:49,099 by the precision 472 01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:51,099 of an Audi. 473 01:05:51,260 --> 01:05:54,459 And they were totally into that music, 474 01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:58,139 and totally fascinated by the sound quality of the music. 475 01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:00,859 Of course it had a lot to do 476 01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:03,499 with German technology, 477 01:06:05,620 --> 01:06:09,219 and in the US, this led to the music scene 478 01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:12,379 and the gay scene starting to pay attention. 479 01:06:12,540 --> 01:06:15,219 And then it all kind of merged 480 01:06:15,380 --> 01:06:18,299 with everything in their scene, 481 01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:22,979 and out of that developed house, they invented house music. 482 01:06:23,140 --> 01:06:27,699 And Germany played a huge role 483 01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:32,139 in that whole electronic music community. 484 01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:36,499 And today, even though the centres are New York and London, 485 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,459 in Germany we don't have a centre. 486 01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:43,299 I wouldn't say that the centre is only Berlin, or Cologne or Munich. 487 01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:48,379 There's a Cologne sound, a Munich sound, a Berlin sound, a Frankfurt-sound. 488 01:06:49,260 --> 01:06:52,179 But ultimately, in Germany... 489 01:06:52,340 --> 01:06:55,699 there really is a German sound. 490 01:06:55,860 --> 01:06:58,699 Made in Germany is something that exists: 491 01:06:58,860 --> 01:07:01,779 techno, electronic dance music. 492 01:07:01,940 --> 01:07:03,499 For the whole world. 493 01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:07,179 And we've been a major export 494 01:07:07,340 --> 01:07:08,939 for over ten years now. 495 01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:12,739 And the biggest and best DJs 496 01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:16,099 come from Germany right now. 497 01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:03,459 In the past, tones and sounds 498 01:10:03,620 --> 01:10:06,459 used to be musicians playing in an orchestra, 499 01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:11,059 different frequencies represented by different musicians. 500 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:16,019 And at some point, people wanted to create these sounds themselves, 501 01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:18,059 without the musicians, 502 01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:20,459 with a synthesizer, for example. 503 01:10:22,540 --> 01:10:26,619 And those values, the idea of enabling the creation of a tone, 504 01:10:26,780 --> 01:10:29,099 out of a complex context, 505 01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:32,459 out of a certain circuitry, with certain resistors. 506 01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:34,699 And this whole thing belongs... 507 01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,019 with all of the developments involved... 508 01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:42,579 it's all part of the world as a whole that we appreciate so much. 509 01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:45,459 And that's why it all belongs together. 510 01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:49,259 It has to do with an appreciation of being together, 511 01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:51,779 an appreciation of communication, 512 01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:56,059 an appreciation of listening to music together, 513 01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:58,859 going to concerts, even going to a soccer game. 514 01:10:59,020 --> 01:11:03,979 The appreciation of being together has something to do with the beginnings 515 01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:08,139 of stored or recorded music. 516 01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:10,499 Because with recorded music, 517 01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:13,339 you could take it somewhere 518 01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,419 and utilize it by playing it and dancing to it. 519 01:11:17,580 --> 01:11:22,459 You used to have to wait by the radio for the DJ to play that song. 520 01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:25,059 Or you listened to hr3 Clubnight, 521 01:11:25,220 --> 01:11:28,979 or you heard some music once a week 522 01:11:29,140 --> 01:11:31,259 when you listened to the charts. 523 01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:33,979 But only for that particular moment. 524 01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:37,779 Now you have the chance to do it anytime 525 01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:40,219 and that's why we're cultivating it. 526 01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:45,139 And of course it has to do with the origins of sound. That too. 527 01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:49,499 This community of shared values at a party 528 01:11:50,380 --> 01:11:53,739 is a very low-level community. 529 01:11:53,900 --> 01:11:56,859 That means you reduce all values 530 01:11:57,020 --> 01:11:59,819 to the lowest common denominator, 531 01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:03,019 so that no one can show up with complicated values 532 01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:06,819 and everyone can meet on the basis of the lowest common value. 533 01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:09,939 And that is a consistent, rhythmic music. 534 01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:14,219 This consistent, rhythmic music, which doesn't get you too excited, 535 01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:17,059 and doesn't cause too much of a stir, 536 01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,899 but gives you a certain foundation the whole time, 537 01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,819 brings together huge numbers of people 538 01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:29,459 in this age of atomization and individualism. 539 01:12:29,620 --> 01:12:34,019 And that's what's so fascinating about the whole thing, 540 01:12:34,180 --> 01:12:37,859 and that's why all of us are so interested 541 01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,819 in this idea of bringing people together. 542 01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:44,699 It has to do with the values we used to have. 543 01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:48,699 Nowadays, people think that their independence 544 01:12:48,860 --> 01:12:52,219 gives them a certain degree of freedom. 545 01:12:52,380 --> 01:12:56,059 But of course, independence 546 01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:59,979 brings with it a certain loneliness, 547 01:13:00,820 --> 01:13:05,059 and people emerge out of this loneliness and meet at parties. 548 01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:10,139 And facilitating this situation 549 01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:12,259 is our role in all of this. 550 01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:15,099 That's what fascinates us all. 551 01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:19,899 That's what's so great about the whole thing. 552 01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:26,339 The studio is basically just a reflection of the rest of life. 553 01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:31,779 And the rest of life doesn't just consist of happiness or wonderful moments. 554 01:21:31,940 --> 01:21:34,019 Instead, you sit here 555 01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:37,219 and you're faced with your own weaknesses. 556 01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:41,739 But that's what makes it exciting and it's all part of it. 557 01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:44,779 You have days, weeks or maybe even longer 558 01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:47,659 where you're just not on form. 559 01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:52,899 And that becomes a problem if you just throw in the towel. 560 01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:57,939 It's always been very important to me to be able to cross a line 561 01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:02,659 and put up with a certain level of dissatisfaction, 562 01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:05,019 but not to give up. 563 01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:08,899 Because this means everything to me. 564 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:12,859 with all of its ups and downs, so I'd be crazy to put it at risk. 565 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:16,699 It's actually the part that I enjoy the most. 566 01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:21,819 So what you make for yourself at the weekend, 567 01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:25,419 financially speaking, 568 01:22:25,580 --> 01:22:28,699 allows you to have this freedom in the studio? 569 01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:30,019 Absolutely. 570 01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:34,019 To be honest, and this is common knowledge today... 571 01:22:34,180 --> 01:22:38,139 the money you make from selling records and streaming 572 01:22:38,300 --> 01:22:42,779 isn't as much as it used to be, in my experience. 573 01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:46,219 So the live sets are absolutely essential. 574 01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:48,859 It all goes hand in hand these days. 575 01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:51,899 I have to get out there at the weekend 576 01:22:52,060 --> 01:22:55,779 to make sure I have the artistic freedom 577 01:22:55,940 --> 01:22:57,819 to sit in this studio here 578 01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:01,499 without having someone in the background, 579 01:23:02,340 --> 01:23:05,099 breathing down my neck. 580 01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:09,739 Well, I'm at a strange point in my life right now. 581 01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:14,979 On the one hand, I'd like to bring my musical career to an end. 582 01:24:15,460 --> 01:24:17,339 I've sold my records. 583 01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:20,459 And I have to say: I still don't miss them. 584 01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:23,419 I actually feel quite liberated. 585 01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:25,899 But on the other hand, 586 01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:30,859 it's really nice to find myself reconstructing the music in my mind, 587 01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:34,139 based on what I can still remember. 588 01:24:34,300 --> 01:24:38,899 I then look for the music on my computer and find some of it too. 589 01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:43,339 So I'm building up a digital collection of my favourite tracks 590 01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:45,779 on this little hard drive. 591 01:24:45,940 --> 01:24:51,179 Now I can do what I always wanted to do: I can play a huge range of music. 592 01:24:51,340 --> 01:24:53,899 I can take my pick, which I couldn't before. 593 01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:58,099 So in a way, I've taken it to a whole new, professional level. 594 01:24:58,260 --> 01:25:01,379 Before, I had 80 or 90 records 595 01:25:01,540 --> 01:25:04,059 and couldn't really do that. 596 01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:07,459 I actually wanted to quit altogether. 597 01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:10,579 I wanted to do something else. 598 01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:13,739 I wanted to be surrounded by nature. 599 01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:18,299 I've bought a house with my girlfriend in Italy on a mountain. 600 01:25:18,460 --> 01:25:20,219 An old borgo. 601 01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:24,459 And I wanted to escape there, and that's what I'll do. 602 01:25:25,540 --> 01:25:27,859 You can hear birds chirping. 603 01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:31,259 It's been so long since I heard five or six voices 604 01:25:31,420 --> 01:25:33,779 blending together without a bass drum. 605 01:25:33,940 --> 01:25:38,139 And it's so funny because when you listen to the birds, 606 01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:39,979 they're singing melodies. 607 01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:42,619 So you're sitting there in the sun, 608 01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:45,899 enjoying life without a bass drum: it is possible. 609 01:25:46,060 --> 01:25:48,459 So it's a great change of scenery. 610 01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:51,899 And then suddenly you hear the sound of a cuckoo. 611 01:25:52,060 --> 01:25:55,539 And that's the fascinating part of it. 612 01:25:57,020 --> 01:25:59,659 It's also great to dig my fingers into the earth, 613 01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:02,619 to come into contact with something else. 614 01:26:02,780 --> 01:26:04,979 That's essential for me. 615 01:26:05,140 --> 01:26:07,419 I'm a big food lover too. 616 01:26:07,580 --> 01:26:10,619 I want to get into that more and grow my own food, 617 01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:13,659 to draw a different type of strength from that, 618 01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:18,699 so I can kind of recharge my batteries for Friday night. 619 01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:45,659 But if we look out of that window here... 620 01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:50,539 You know that this place was a kind of children's home, right? 621 01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:53,259 - In East Germany. - Or was it a kindergarten? 622 01:33:53,420 --> 01:33:58,779 Well, I think it was a kind of convalescent home. 623 01:33:59,780 --> 01:34:04,779 Local children came here on holiday to get their spirits up, or whatever. 624 01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:08,419 Maybe they can tell you more about what it was. 625 01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:11,979 But if we just look out of that window... 626 01:34:12,140 --> 01:34:15,739 Well, we're not exactly being blinded by the lights 627 01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:19,939 of an Asian capital or New York or Chicago or whatever. 628 01:34:20,940 --> 01:34:22,579 But actually... 629 01:34:23,700 --> 01:34:26,939 But going by the soundscape, we could be in Calabria. 630 01:34:34,420 --> 01:34:37,099 It still looks pretty good here.. 631 01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:40,739 The rest of Berlin is barely recognizable anymore. 632 01:34:47,020 --> 01:34:48,659 Crazy. 633 01:34:48,820 --> 01:34:51,059 It's crazy how time has sped by, 634 01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:53,339 because it's all connected: 635 01:34:53,500 --> 01:34:55,779 techno, the fall of the Wall, 636 01:34:55,940 --> 01:34:58,459 reunification, and Berlin... 637 01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:01,899 as the "stage" for all of this. 638 01:35:03,860 --> 01:35:06,259 It's all got so long in the tooth, 639 01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:08,699 but it still keeps on going. 640 01:35:10,540 --> 01:35:12,059 Like we do. 641 01:35:12,220 --> 01:35:15,379 Techno is like an institution now. 642 01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:18,579 It will just go on forever because... 643 01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:22,819 it's almost like a virus. 644 01:35:22,980 --> 01:35:27,579 The means of production have been radically democratized. 645 01:35:27,740 --> 01:35:32,099 Anyone can do that shit now, even with their crappy phone. 646 01:35:32,260 --> 01:35:35,739 You just have to go ahead and do it and so... 647 01:35:37,180 --> 01:35:40,899 There's no stopping it anymore, and for years now, 648 01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:45,299 I'm sure that there are way more people producing it 649 01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:47,819 than really consuming it. 650 01:35:47,980 --> 01:35:51,059 And I don't mean superficially. 651 01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:54,139 If you really immerse yourself in it, 652 01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:57,979 it's almost impossible to avoid giving it a go yourself. 653 01:35:58,140 --> 01:36:00,539 It's just an obvious choice. 654 01:36:00,700 --> 01:36:03,459 we all have the tools at our fingertips. 655 01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:08,779 IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT 656 01:36:13,860 --> 01:36:17,819 I can't really say, to be honest. I can't think of a pithy answer. 657 01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:22,659 How would I end that sentence? 658 01:36:29,900 --> 01:36:34,419 Well, if we're talking about music and nightlife, 659 01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:40,019 it's probably the best thing that could have happened to Germany, 660 01:36:40,180 --> 01:36:42,339 these 25 years of techno music. 661 01:36:42,500 --> 01:36:45,379 When I think of other things going on here, 662 01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:48,779 some of it makes me feel pretty scared, to be honest. 663 01:36:48,940 --> 01:36:53,219 So I'm really happy there's something to balance it out. 664 01:36:56,619 --> 01:37:01,619 Subtitles ripped by gooz karagarga, 2019 665 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:06,720 Translation: Peter Rigney, Rebekah Smith54683

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