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IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT
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Intense.
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Wow.
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The record is from the seventies.
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Intense.
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They were into it back then already.
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My goodness, what an elaborate sleeve.
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At this point in 2016...
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At the moment,
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there is a lot of very good music.
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A lot of good producers
have established themselves.
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Everything has become easier,
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so there is this huge variety of music.
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And that's great for a lot of people,
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but for many others it's overwhelming.
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Big hits can't develop
the way they did in the past,
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when DJs often decided
on two or three things.
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That's got very, very hard.
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And all I can say is:
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the tapestry is huge
and it's endless too.
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That's what the music
feels like right now.
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It's immense. An enormous variety.
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And you can go in any direction.
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So you can become very specialized,
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and it's virtually impossible to describe
all the different genres and categories.
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And for someone who has no clue,
it's really hard to explain it to them.
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The tapestry is very, very refined,
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the pattern is barely discernible,
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and you have to examine it
for a long, long time
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to recognize its structure
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and see the individual colours.
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To get there,
you have to listen to tons of music,
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devote a lot of time to the music,
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and really delve into old records,
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before you can really grasp
the foundation.
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And what I really like
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is that the house music I'm involved in
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reinvents itself every five years or so.
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It revolves like a merry-go-round,
always arriving at the same place again.
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But the funny thing is,
each time it's arranged differently,
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the sounds are a bit different,
and suddenly everyone is on board again.
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And it's really nice to watch
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how young people then identify
more strongly with the new part,
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and that creates this link
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to where the old DJs are sitting,
so to speak.
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So Ricardo, Roman, me, all the DJs
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will always reach
into the old record box,
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take out the old records,
and mix them up with the new stuff.
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And the kids
come and ask about the old stuff,
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thinking that it's new stuff,
but it's not new,
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it's 20 years old.
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And that's really interesting.
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But the evolution goes on and on.
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I have no idea where it will end.
I really don't see an end to it.
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LONG LIVE CHILE!
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE!
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PRESIDENT ALLENDE'S LAST SPEECH
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Before I started collecting music,
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buying records,
and later mixing music myself,
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long before that,
I was already into the scene.
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Because that kind of music
always appealed to me.
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And here in Switzerland,
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and especially in Geneva,
there were no events whatsoever.
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It was very difficult to find parties
where they played electronic music.
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That was in the very early nineties.
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You had to go over
to the German part of Switzerland.
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But the focus there was mainly on trance.
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If you wanted something more like house,
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you had to go over to Germany.
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So we would take
these "weekend expeditions",
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to Frankfurt, mostly.
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I think that was before the nineties.
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The club was Omen in Frankfurt.
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After that we started going to Munich.
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There was an area in Munich
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with 3 club called Ultraschall,
inside what used to be Riem Airport.
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I was very young at the time
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and I went looking
for that music everywhere.
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I didn't find it in France
or in Switzerland.
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It was the scene in Germany
that appealed to me.
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Ever since then,
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I've wanted
to be more than just a spectator.
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I wanted
to take the music home with me too.
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But you couldn't find it in the stores,
so you had to find other ways to get it.
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And through my German network,
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I had access to that music,
I bought it,
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and started spinning records.
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And before long,
I got an offer from a club in Geneva
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that was always at the avant-garde
of electronic music,
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a club called Weetamix,
which still exists today.
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They invited me to play there
as resident DJ.
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So I played there
two or three times a month,
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often as an opener
for international guests.
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So gradually,
we started getting music
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that was a bit more refined
than what we'd had before.
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Labels like Playhouse, Perlon,
DJs like Zip, Ata,
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and Losoul as well,
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Heiko MSO and others,
they were here all the time.
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And out of this exchange developed
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some good ties between us.
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Zip invited me to Germany
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to DJ at the Panorama Bar in Berlin.
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That was in 2003.
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From the start, it was always
the music that connected us.
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We weren't from the same place,
or from the same generation.
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It was just the music that connected us
and you could only find it there.
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What did we have here?
We had Bhagwan discos.
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Bhagwan discos
were basically our uptight parents
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liberating themselves.
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It has something to do with rhythm,
something like,
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"I'll dress up all in white
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so no one can tell who I am,"
and off it goes.
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A good sound system, loud music,
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and "let it all hang loose!"
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Why did they stop organizing them?
They were pretty cool.
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But our scene
developed out of that, in a way.
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My mom wasn't a Bhagwan,
unfortunately...
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My mom was a strict Catholic.
From Spain.
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And when I was 14,
I had to be home by 8 p.m.
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But through the music,
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and what the music gave me...
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My neighbour, who was a black G.I.,
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gave me a Herbie Hancock record.
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I listened to it and then heard
Kraftwerk on the radio.
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And that became my tapestry,
which I just wove together.
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And I thought,
"Wow, what is this?"
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I had this sense of liberation,
a liberation that enabled me
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to get out of the house
and get into house music.
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Out onto the dance floor.
And I saw what went on there.
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You play a record
and the people over there start moving.
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All these emotions are released.
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It was such a fascinating
and profound experience that I said,
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"Okay, I'm going to try to do
what that guy on TV is doing.
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He's got those two turntables,
but what's that thing in the middle?"
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It was so exciting to me, so fascinating.
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And I could see all this technology,
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I was interested in it,
and I tried to figure it out.
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That's how I was catapulted out,
with this immense force,
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out into the night.
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And I realized
what was going on out there.
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There was no end.
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I could dance as long as I wanted.
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It's truly an adventure.
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There are very few secure channels
between the musicians.
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So from the drummer's bass drum,
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there's a kind of channel
with a trigger signal
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over to Max's bass synthesizer.
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That's basically the only channel,
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everything else is more or less
played spontaneously on top,
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and I click in manually
with my modular system.
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So there's a tap button
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which I tap twice, depending on the beat.
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And that launches my system,
and Max's system too.
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And so that can go in any direction.
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Luckily nothing went wrong on Sunday,
but that can happen.
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That kind of "dis-control", if you will,
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that moment of "uncontrol"
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is basically a frequency which,
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before it can become rhythmic,
is often too free-form.
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So in order to turn it
into a rhythmic element, for example,
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which only has a short transient,
like a "bing" or "bong� or "boong",
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you need an enveloping curve,
something that controls it.
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So, as I was saying,
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one third of all this equipment
is made up of controllers,
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and the rest would just love
to scream out all the time.
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or make some noise or other.
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But that's kept in check.
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Someone tries to control it,
and that, ultimately, is the music.
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Other musicians have certain frequencies
available to them,
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but in electronic music, we have
all the frequencies available to us.
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The others can only make use
of a certain frequency range.
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And everyone tries out different things,
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little by little, to see what works.
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It's kind of like a lively conversation
between different people.
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Some people are having a dialogue
and then others interrupt,
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and it forms a kind of consensus.
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That's pretty much
what happens in music.
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You're playing to different worlds,
of course.
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A dance floor is a world
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where there is a very clear language,
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a rhythmic language
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with some melodic dabs of colour,
I so to speak.
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And here in this jazz or sound concert,
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even the musicians
don't know what's happening,
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or what will happen.
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But for me, it's always the same thing.
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No matter if I'm standing on stage,
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playing some strange
popping or creaking sounds,
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or if I'm playing it in a club,
or listening to it at home.
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Or even if I do it with my own mouth
or hear those sounds around me,
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I always try to bring it together
under the same roof,
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I always try to be the same person.
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This place is a big soundscape.
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And sounds are ultimately
the inspiration for music.
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You have the sounds of insects
alongside the traffic noise.
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I used to lie down in the stairwell,
right in front of the door,
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listening to the draft
which carried resonant tones,
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and to me they were melodies.
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It's important to recognize
the difference in volume
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at festivals, parties and clubs.
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And here,
where you really have to listen.
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Your ears get sensitized.
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What I do is more
on the quiet side anyway,
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so I'm naturally more interested
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in what creeps and crawls
beneath the surface.
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It's certainly...
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a source of inspiration.
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In general, but especially here.
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On the one side, you have
the open plain towards the west.
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Paris and New York are that way.
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And over here in the basin,
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the acoustics change.
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They get trapped between the mountains.
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There are other places too.
the Scheffelterrasse by the castle,
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where the arches reflect the sounds
of the city like parabolic mirrors.
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So whenever I go for a walk here,
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my ears take a walk too.
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Well, to be an astronaut...
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I'm from the generation
that saw the moon landing as a kid,
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and the outer space missions as well,
especially Apollo 13.
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When was that? 1973?
I was seven and experienced all of that.
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"They're up there.
We don't know how to get them back."
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That really fascinated me.
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Another key experience was my father
taking me to see Stanley Kubrick's 2001
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You had to be six to see the film
and I wasn't.
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I remember the cashier saying,
"He's not six yet",
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and my dad saying,
"But I'm accompanying him."
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I must've seen that film at least
30 times in the course of my life.
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It left such an impression
on me as a child.
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That film really shaped me
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for the rest of my life.
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The wish or dream
of becoming an astronaut
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was shattered early on
because my eyesight wasn't good enough.
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And ultimately,
those ascetic preparations,
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the total discipline
and the complete isolation
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wouldn't be my thing either.
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But it was always an idea
that fascinated me.
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But to make the link
back to this place...
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At least it's a city of science.
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You have astrophysics.
the Max Planck Institute, EMBL.
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My father was an astrophysicist
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and worked at the Max Planck Institute.
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So there are those links.
There's the observatory.
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Not a planetarium:
an observatory with a telescope
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to peer into the heavens,
dating back to the Art Nouveau period.
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So there are things here
which tie into the topic.
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But ultimately, it's just a metaphor.
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Sun Ra, not only of Saturn,
but of music itself.
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Music, the bodiless way
of travelling or moving,
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in your imagination or however.
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To me, it's the most fascinating
form of art that exists,
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because it can't be grasped.
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It can be measured in space
and it makes atoms move.
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So you can see it, in a way.
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But ultimately,
it's something that flows through you.
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And by conserving it,
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by writing it down
in the form of sheet music,
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it has become reproducible.
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The effect can be reproduced at will,
and doesn't cost a thing.
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And that's unique.
food is consumed, you eat it
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it gets digested,
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then you move on
to pick the next berry.
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But music is like a Pandora's box
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where you can keep reaching in,
where you can try...
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to remain open to it,
to hear new things and to integrate them,
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but much of it just remains the same.
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Miles Davis' trumpet
for example, or the Beatles,
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or Jo�o Gilberto, Jobim...
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Bach...
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Chopin...
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All of these things remain
coordinates in the solar system.
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What's funny is that some planets
regain their relevance,
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and you want to go back,
while others might drift further apart.
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At any rate,
music is a cosmos of its own.
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That's the larger parallel
that can be drawn.
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And the borders
between physics, mathematics
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and music and philosophy
are absolutely fluid.
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Seen from a broader perspective,
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it even extends to the theological
and spiritual realm.
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For something that is essentially
without a value and a body,
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It's incredible
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and has fascinated me my whole life.
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Like perhaps nothing else.
Apart from animals maybe.
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And all of the wonders of nature.
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And the parallels that can be drawn:
octaves as...
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dual frequencies, frequency ratios,
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which make so much sense
in nature and in physics.
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All of this
can be transferred and applied.
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For as long as anyone can remember,
NASA's website...
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has shown phenomena from space.
those jets, for example,
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those waves of material
shooting forth from supernovas.
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You can hear those things,
but you hear nothing in outer space
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because sound doesn't carry,
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so these inaudible processes
are made audible.
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But it's funny
that the other way around,
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you can take these phenomena
that are so hard to grasp
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and understand them better
by making them audible.
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Yes. And I am
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a fan of music
that's been composed and conceived,
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but what I meant
with the sound of the wind under a door
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is that music in chaos
or in nature is also fascinating.
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When I was in my early twenties,
I met a fringe scientist,
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who approached music from the perspective
of physics and biology.
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He started to take yeast cultures
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and to make their reproduction audible.
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And to some extent...
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these functions result in incredibly
interesting and audible algorithms.
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So it's pretty fascinating...
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how the information
contained in the universe,
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at visible and invisible levels,
visible light, invisible waves,
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how they always interlink
and interlace with each other.
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How mind and body, and everything...
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It's the ultimate psychedelic experience
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to understand that everything is one,
so to speak.
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And conversely, to understand
that one thing also contains everything.
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So, there's an apple hanging next to you.
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- Can you make a connection?
- Apples, Apple computer. Newton, gravity.
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When I was younger,
me and my stepfather
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used to build those spaceships as well,
319
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and eventually that transitioned
seamlessly into building instruments.
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My stepfather,
who helped me a lot with that stuff,
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took me to the orchards and we fed apples
to the horses for the first time.
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I'll never forget it.
It was a meadow just like this one.
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So that's immediately what came to mind.
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"You know that apple tree."
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But the apple as such...
Adam and Eve and all that,
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we could make an entire movie about that.
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In Paris, we were doing some filming,
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a few days after the attacks in Brussels,
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a couple of months
after the Paris attacks,
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maybe a few weeks
before the next attack.
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What effect does that have on you,
on your job
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and on the places where you work?
333
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What was interesting is that
on the evening of the first Paris attack,
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the Charlie Hebdo attack,
I was playing in Paris at the Rex Club.
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And I feared the worst,
336
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and it was all very shocking, of course,
337
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:03,139
and the whole thing
didn't feel good at all.
338
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You didn't know if the event
should take place or not.
339
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:10,339
The streets were deserted.
and there were police everywhere.
340
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,979
The trip from the airport
into the city
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felt really different.
342
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with flashing lights
and roadblocks and all of that.
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And then, strangely enough,
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the evening was extremely...
ecstatic, almost.
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The vibe was great
and there were loads of people.
346
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But it's a very ambivalent thing.
347
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:36,899
When the most recent attack
in Paris happened,
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I was playing at Fabric in London.
349
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At dinner, I looked down at my phone
and realized it was happening again.
350
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And it doesn't feel good or right at all.
351
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Ultimately, I never really know
how to justify a party.
352
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That evening, you could tell
that people were more occupied
353
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with trying to get the latest news
on their smartphones,
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especially at the beginning of the event,
355
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than focusing on the party.
356
00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:15,339
At any rate, what's going on
right now is really distressing.
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You can't see exactly where it will lead,
or whether it will ever end.
358
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:26,539
When I played in Tel Aviv
for the first time many years ago,
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I had to go through a checkpoint
like everyone else.
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A security check,
like the checks at airports.
361
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And at that time,
it all seemed very far away to me.
362
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:45,859
And now I'd say
that it's moved very close to all of us.
363
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A club is very vulnerable as it is.
364
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:58,299
It exists to allow you
to break out of your normal life,
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to let go of all the rules
that you're otherwise subject to.
366
00:53:03,260 --> 00:53:08,899
And if such a situation
becomes normalcy, so to speak,
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if you can't be safe
in a place like that,
368
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,499
it changes something,
at least temporarily.
369
00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:18,699
At some point,
it probably becomes kind of routine.
370
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:22,379
But we're not at that point yet.
371
00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:27,019
We're still at the point
where people feel extremely unsettled.
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And you can only hope
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that it doesn't become a target.
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It would be asking too much,
because I could never do justice to it
375
00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:46,979
by striking the right chord.
376
00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:49,339
Instead, I do what I do,
377
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,139
I do what I'm good at,
378
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:56,659
but I'm not the master of ceremonies
379
00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:01,459
who finds the right chord
whenever disaster strikes somewhere.
380
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:04,499
That's asking too much.
No one can do that.
381
00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:08,819
I think it's much more important,
in fact, to say,
382
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"What we're doing here is important."
383
00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:17,699
And the current situation
is making this even clearer.
384
00:54:17,860 --> 00:54:20,859
That it's a very vulnerable situation.
385
00:54:21,020 --> 00:54:24,819
but that it's essential
for a lot of people.
386
00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:27,299
It's a legitimate thing
387
00:54:27,460 --> 00:54:30,339
to live your life in this way.
388
00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:36,459
So I just hope we'll soon be able
to do that again without feeling scared.
389
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:56,739
I think that music
390
00:59:56,900 --> 01:00:00,659
had a different significance back then.
391
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:05,019
Also with regard to religion.
392
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:09,899
During Calvin's time in Geneva,
393
01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:12,179
music and entertainment
394
01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:15,339
were prohibited and neglected.
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01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:18,139
During that period,
396
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:21,659
people were living
with a certain degree of anxiety.
397
01:00:22,420 --> 01:00:26,859
Everyone wants to enjoy themselves,
it's part of human nature.
398
01:00:27,020 --> 01:00:29,059
So this prohibition
399
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:32,139
was like forbidding people from living.
400
01:00:33,740 --> 01:00:38,379
They were rejecting
the idea of living a full life.
401
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,739
And I think that this had
402
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,099
certain consequences.
403
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:53,139
If you assign a function to music,
and say it's a negative function,
404
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:56,139
you turn it into a pejorative,
negative element.
405
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,779
And that's a dangerous thing to do.
406
01:01:00,020 --> 01:01:04,379
There is music in religion.
There's religious singing.
407
01:01:04,540 --> 01:01:07,619
And there's this idea
408
01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:13,219
of repressing music as entertainment,
at least in certain religions.
409
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:19,459
Certain religions
prohibit dancing at parties,
410
01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:22,379
because music
is only allowed to be religious.
411
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:27,899
So there certainly is a relationship
412
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:30,139
between music and religion.
413
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:32,779
Nowadays, there are certain countries
414
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,059
that neglect both music and religion.
415
01:01:36,220 --> 01:01:39,659
In some countries in the north,
416
01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:43,099
there is no kind of musical communion,
417
01:01:43,260 --> 01:01:45,379
there is no communal singing.
418
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:48,979
People are timid,
there's no singing, no talking.
419
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:52,899
Some Nordic countries
really repress these kinds of things.
420
01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:59,539
So there's a lot more cold techno music
coming from those countries
421
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:03,499
than from southern Spain
or southern Italy.
422
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:06,219
There's an obvious difference.
423
01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:20,259
Of course.
424
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:29,699
I travel with a lot of records.
425
01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:34,939
To make sure that I'm able
426
01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:38,219
to take the people
427
01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,539
where I want to have them.
428
01:02:43,180 --> 01:02:47,299
You can't just arrive somewhere,
429
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:50,739
force your message onto the people
430
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:52,659
and expect them to receive it.
431
01:02:52,820 --> 01:02:55,099
It requires a certain finesse
432
01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:58,699
to get to the point
where people listen to you.
433
01:02:58,860 --> 01:03:01,419
And then you can
communicate your message.
434
01:03:01,580 --> 01:03:05,019
So I make sure
I have a wide range of records
435
01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:09,619
in case I want to play something
a bit cooler, a bit more reserved.
436
01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:11,739
Or, on the other hand,
437
01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:15,299
maybe something more cheerful
at the beginning.
438
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:18,859
And then I'll take them
where I want them to go.
439
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:22,059
But I need time for that.
One hour is not enough.
440
01:03:22,220 --> 01:03:25,339
I need two or three hours
to achieve that.
441
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:27,859
And it doesn't always work.
442
01:03:29,740 --> 01:03:33,739
- When it works, it's poetry. Or...
- Exactly.
443
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,939
When it works...
444
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:43,579
When it works,
it's a divine moment of communion.
445
01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:55,939
It's a real climax.
446
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,019
And if it doesn't work,
447
01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:04,059
somehow it's not so bad either.
448
01:04:04,580 --> 01:04:08,219
Then you have to try another approach,
449
01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:11,459
try to present it differently,
450
01:04:11,620 --> 01:04:13,619
to get things moving.
451
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:17,179
If it worked every time,
you wouldn't make any progress.
452
01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:20,259
You could stop when the year was out.
453
01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:45,019
You have to go a longway back
to answer that.
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01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:49,539
In Germany,
electronic music fortunately...
455
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:56,379
it emerged
as early as the 1950s and 1960s,
456
01:04:56,540 --> 01:04:58,499
through people like Stockhausen.
457
01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:01,299
And it developed slowly from there,
458
01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:04,699
with a lot of musical experimentation.
459
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:08,299
Unfortunately,
it didn't get much recognition
460
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:11,139
and visibility in German society
461
01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:18,819
People like Conny Plank
462
01:05:18,980 --> 01:05:22,379
then took it a step further.
463
01:05:22,540 --> 01:05:24,499
That led to Krautrock.
464
01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:26,819
That led to Kraftwerk.
465
01:05:26,980 --> 01:05:30,659
And as a result, the German influence
466
01:05:30,820 --> 01:05:33,299
spread to the US.
467
01:05:33,460 --> 01:05:35,539
The Americans loved our stuffy.
468
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:39,019
The black community
couldn't get enough of it,
469
01:05:39,180 --> 01:05:43,059
this harsh, electronic, cold dance music.
470
01:05:43,220 --> 01:05:46,819
That's how they described it,
and they were totally fascinated
471
01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:49,099
by the precision
472
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:51,099
of an Audi.
473
01:05:51,260 --> 01:05:54,459
And they were totally into that music,
474
01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:58,139
and totally fascinated
by the sound quality of the music.
475
01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:00,859
Of course it had a lot to do
476
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:03,499
with German technology,
477
01:06:05,620 --> 01:06:09,219
and in the US,
this led to the music scene
478
01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:12,379
and the gay scene
starting to pay attention.
479
01:06:12,540 --> 01:06:15,219
And then it all kind of merged
480
01:06:15,380 --> 01:06:18,299
with everything in their scene,
481
01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:22,979
and out of that developed house,
they invented house music.
482
01:06:23,140 --> 01:06:27,699
And Germany played a huge role
483
01:06:27,860 --> 01:06:32,139
in that whole electronic music community.
484
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:36,499
And today, even though the centres
are New York and London,
485
01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,459
in Germany we don't have a centre.
486
01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:43,299
I wouldn't say that the centre
is only Berlin, or Cologne or Munich.
487
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:48,379
There's a Cologne sound, a Munich sound,
a Berlin sound, a Frankfurt-sound.
488
01:06:49,260 --> 01:06:52,179
But ultimately, in Germany...
489
01:06:52,340 --> 01:06:55,699
there really is a German sound.
490
01:06:55,860 --> 01:06:58,699
Made in Germany is something that exists:
491
01:06:58,860 --> 01:07:01,779
techno, electronic dance music.
492
01:07:01,940 --> 01:07:03,499
For the whole world.
493
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:07,179
And we've been a major export
494
01:07:07,340 --> 01:07:08,939
for over ten years now.
495
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:12,739
And the biggest and best DJs
496
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:16,099
come from Germany right now.
497
01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:03,459
In the past, tones and sounds
498
01:10:03,620 --> 01:10:06,459
used to be musicians
playing in an orchestra,
499
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:11,059
different frequencies
represented by different musicians.
500
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:16,019
And at some point, people wanted
to create these sounds themselves,
501
01:10:16,180 --> 01:10:18,059
without the musicians,
502
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:20,459
with a synthesizer, for example.
503
01:10:22,540 --> 01:10:26,619
And those values, the idea
of enabling the creation of a tone,
504
01:10:26,780 --> 01:10:29,099
out of a complex context,
505
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:32,459
out of a certain circuitry,
with certain resistors.
506
01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:34,699
And this whole thing belongs...
507
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,019
with all of the developments involved...
508
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:42,579
it's all part of the world as a whole
that we appreciate so much.
509
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:45,459
And that's why it all belongs together.
510
01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:49,259
It has to do with
an appreciation of being together,
511
01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:51,779
an appreciation of communication,
512
01:10:51,940 --> 01:10:56,059
an appreciation
of listening to music together,
513
01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:58,859
going to concerts,
even going to a soccer game.
514
01:10:59,020 --> 01:11:03,979
The appreciation of being together
has something to do with the beginnings
515
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:08,139
of stored or recorded music.
516
01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:10,499
Because with recorded music,
517
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:13,339
you could take it somewhere
518
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,419
and utilize it by playing it
and dancing to it.
519
01:11:17,580 --> 01:11:22,459
You used to have to wait by the radio
for the DJ to play that song.
520
01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:25,059
Or you listened to hr3 Clubnight,
521
01:11:25,220 --> 01:11:28,979
or you heard some music once a week
522
01:11:29,140 --> 01:11:31,259
when you listened to the charts.
523
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:33,979
But only for that particular moment.
524
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:37,779
Now you have the chance to do it anytime
525
01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:40,219
and that's why we're cultivating it.
526
01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:45,139
And of course it has to do
with the origins of sound. That too.
527
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:49,499
This community
of shared values at a party
528
01:11:50,380 --> 01:11:53,739
is a very low-level community.
529
01:11:53,900 --> 01:11:56,859
That means you reduce all values
530
01:11:57,020 --> 01:11:59,819
to the lowest common denominator,
531
01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:03,019
so that no one can show up
with complicated values
532
01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:06,819
and everyone can meet on the basis
of the lowest common value.
533
01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:09,939
And that is a consistent, rhythmic music.
534
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:14,219
This consistent, rhythmic music,
which doesn't get you too excited,
535
01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:17,059
and doesn't cause too much of a stir,
536
01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,899
but gives you a certain foundation
the whole time,
537
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,819
brings together huge numbers of people
538
01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:29,459
in this age of atomization
and individualism.
539
01:12:29,620 --> 01:12:34,019
And that's what's so fascinating
about the whole thing,
540
01:12:34,180 --> 01:12:37,859
and that's why all of us
are so interested
541
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,819
in this idea
of bringing people together.
542
01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:44,699
It has to do with the values
we used to have.
543
01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:48,699
Nowadays, people think
that their independence
544
01:12:48,860 --> 01:12:52,219
gives them a certain degree of freedom.
545
01:12:52,380 --> 01:12:56,059
But of course, independence
546
01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:59,979
brings with it a certain loneliness,
547
01:13:00,820 --> 01:13:05,059
and people emerge out of this loneliness
and meet at parties.
548
01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:10,139
And facilitating this situation
549
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:12,259
is our role in all of this.
550
01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:15,099
That's what fascinates us all.
551
01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:19,899
That's what's so great
about the whole thing.
552
01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:26,339
The studio is basically
just a reflection of the rest of life.
553
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:31,779
And the rest of life doesn't just consist
of happiness or wonderful moments.
554
01:21:31,940 --> 01:21:34,019
Instead, you sit here
555
01:21:34,180 --> 01:21:37,219
and you're faced
with your own weaknesses.
556
01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:41,739
But that's what makes it exciting
and it's all part of it.
557
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:44,779
You have days, weeks
or maybe even longer
558
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:47,659
where you're just not on form.
559
01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:52,899
And that becomes a problem
if you just throw in the towel.
560
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:57,939
It's always been very important to me
to be able to cross a line
561
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:02,659
and put up with
a certain level of dissatisfaction,
562
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:05,019
but not to give up.
563
01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:08,899
Because this means everything to me.
564
01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:12,859
with all of its ups and downs,
so I'd be crazy to put it at risk.
565
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:16,699
It's actually
the part that I enjoy the most.
566
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:21,819
So what you make for yourself
at the weekend,
567
01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:25,419
financially speaking,
568
01:22:25,580 --> 01:22:28,699
allows you to have this freedom
in the studio?
569
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:30,019
Absolutely.
570
01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:34,019
To be honest,
and this is common knowledge today...
571
01:22:34,180 --> 01:22:38,139
the money you make
from selling records and streaming
572
01:22:38,300 --> 01:22:42,779
isn't as much as it used to be,
in my experience.
573
01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:46,219
So the live sets
are absolutely essential.
574
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:48,859
It all goes hand in hand these days.
575
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:51,899
I have to get out there at the weekend
576
01:22:52,060 --> 01:22:55,779
to make sure
I have the artistic freedom
577
01:22:55,940 --> 01:22:57,819
to sit in this studio here
578
01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:01,499
without having someone in the background,
579
01:23:02,340 --> 01:23:05,099
breathing down my neck.
580
01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:09,739
Well, I'm at a strange point
in my life right now.
581
01:24:10,460 --> 01:24:14,979
On the one hand, I'd like to bring
my musical career to an end.
582
01:24:15,460 --> 01:24:17,339
I've sold my records.
583
01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:20,459
And I have to say:
I still don't miss them.
584
01:24:20,620 --> 01:24:23,419
I actually feel quite liberated.
585
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:25,899
But on the other hand,
586
01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:30,859
it's really nice to find myself
reconstructing the music in my mind,
587
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:34,139
based on what I can still remember.
588
01:24:34,300 --> 01:24:38,899
I then look for the music on my computer
and find some of it too.
589
01:24:39,060 --> 01:24:43,339
So I'm building up a digital collection
of my favourite tracks
590
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:45,779
on this little hard drive.
591
01:24:45,940 --> 01:24:51,179
Now I can do what I always wanted to do:
I can play a huge range of music.
592
01:24:51,340 --> 01:24:53,899
I can take my pick,
which I couldn't before.
593
01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:58,099
So in a way, I've taken it
to a whole new, professional level.
594
01:24:58,260 --> 01:25:01,379
Before, I had 80 or 90 records
595
01:25:01,540 --> 01:25:04,059
and couldn't really do that.
596
01:25:04,860 --> 01:25:07,459
I actually wanted to quit altogether.
597
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:10,579
I wanted to do something else.
598
01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:13,739
I wanted to be surrounded by nature.
599
01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:18,299
I've bought a house with my girlfriend
in Italy on a mountain.
600
01:25:18,460 --> 01:25:20,219
An old borgo.
601
01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:24,459
And I wanted to escape there,
and that's what I'll do.
602
01:25:25,540 --> 01:25:27,859
You can hear birds chirping.
603
01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:31,259
It's been so long
since I heard five or six voices
604
01:25:31,420 --> 01:25:33,779
blending together without a bass drum.
605
01:25:33,940 --> 01:25:38,139
And it's so funny because
when you listen to the birds,
606
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:39,979
they're singing melodies.
607
01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:42,619
So you're sitting there in the sun,
608
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:45,899
enjoying life without a bass drum:
it is possible.
609
01:25:46,060 --> 01:25:48,459
So it's a great change of scenery.
610
01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:51,899
And then suddenly
you hear the sound of a cuckoo.
611
01:25:52,060 --> 01:25:55,539
And that's the fascinating part of it.
612
01:25:57,020 --> 01:25:59,659
It's also great to dig
my fingers into the earth,
613
01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:02,619
to come into contact with something else.
614
01:26:02,780 --> 01:26:04,979
That's essential for me.
615
01:26:05,140 --> 01:26:07,419
I'm a big food lover too.
616
01:26:07,580 --> 01:26:10,619
I want to get into that more
and grow my own food,
617
01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:13,659
to draw a different type
of strength from that,
618
01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:18,699
so I can kind of recharge
my batteries for Friday night.
619
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:45,659
But if we look out of that window here...
620
01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:50,539
You know that this place
was a kind of children's home, right?
621
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:53,259
- In East Germany.
- Or was it a kindergarten?
622
01:33:53,420 --> 01:33:58,779
Well, I think
it was a kind of convalescent home.
623
01:33:59,780 --> 01:34:04,779
Local children came here on holiday
to get their spirits up, or whatever.
624
01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:08,419
Maybe they can tell you
more about what it was.
625
01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:11,979
But if we just look out of that window...
626
01:34:12,140 --> 01:34:15,739
Well, we're not exactly
being blinded by the lights
627
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:19,939
of an Asian capital
or New York or Chicago or whatever.
628
01:34:20,940 --> 01:34:22,579
But actually...
629
01:34:23,700 --> 01:34:26,939
But going by the soundscape,
we could be in Calabria.
630
01:34:34,420 --> 01:34:37,099
It still looks pretty good here..
631
01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:40,739
The rest of Berlin
is barely recognizable anymore.
632
01:34:47,020 --> 01:34:48,659
Crazy.
633
01:34:48,820 --> 01:34:51,059
It's crazy how time has sped by,
634
01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:53,339
because it's all connected:
635
01:34:53,500 --> 01:34:55,779
techno, the fall of the Wall,
636
01:34:55,940 --> 01:34:58,459
reunification, and Berlin...
637
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:01,899
as the "stage" for all of this.
638
01:35:03,860 --> 01:35:06,259
It's all got so long in the tooth,
639
01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:08,699
but it still keeps on going.
640
01:35:10,540 --> 01:35:12,059
Like we do.
641
01:35:12,220 --> 01:35:15,379
Techno is like an institution now.
642
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:18,579
It will just go on forever because...
643
01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:22,819
it's almost like a virus.
644
01:35:22,980 --> 01:35:27,579
The means of production
have been radically democratized.
645
01:35:27,740 --> 01:35:32,099
Anyone can do that shit now,
even with their crappy phone.
646
01:35:32,260 --> 01:35:35,739
You just have to go ahead
and do it and so...
647
01:35:37,180 --> 01:35:40,899
There's no stopping it anymore,
and for years now,
648
01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:45,299
I'm sure that
there are way more people producing it
649
01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:47,819
than really consuming it.
650
01:35:47,980 --> 01:35:51,059
And I don't mean superficially.
651
01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:54,139
If you really immerse yourself in it,
652
01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:57,979
it's almost impossible to avoid
giving it a go yourself.
653
01:35:58,140 --> 01:36:00,539
It's just an obvious choice.
654
01:36:00,700 --> 01:36:03,459
we all have the tools at our fingertips.
655
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:08,779
IF I THINK OF GERMANY AT NIGHT
656
01:36:13,860 --> 01:36:17,819
I can't really say, to be honest.
I can't think of a pithy answer.
657
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:22,659
How would I end that sentence?
658
01:36:29,900 --> 01:36:34,419
Well, if we're talking
about music and nightlife,
659
01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:40,019
it's probably the best thing
that could have happened to Germany,
660
01:36:40,180 --> 01:36:42,339
these 25 years of techno music.
661
01:36:42,500 --> 01:36:45,379
When I think
of other things going on here,
662
01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:48,779
some of it makes me feel
pretty scared, to be honest.
663
01:36:48,940 --> 01:36:53,219
So I'm really happy
there's something to balance it out.
664
01:36:56,619 --> 01:37:01,619
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