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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,390 --> 00:00:09,130 [Music] 2 00:00:11,900 --> 00:00:14,900 thank you 3 00:00:16,619 --> 00:00:20,580 come home in the moment 4 00:00:20,580 --> 00:00:25,080 go to bed feeling in the same way can't 5 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,019 start a fire 6 00:00:28,019 --> 00:00:31,800 word about your little world falling 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,420 apart his guns were higher 8 00:00:36,420 --> 00:00:40,320 even if we're just Dancing in the Dark 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,239 if I couldn't be a musician tomorrow and 10 00:00:42,239 --> 00:00:44,460 I had to find something else to do I 11 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:46,980 have no idea what I'd do 12 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:59,020 [Music] 13 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:02,129 [Applause] 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,099 [Music] 15 00:01:04,099 --> 00:01:07,020 one of the greatest live performers in 16 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:09,479 the history of rock and roll 17 00:01:09,479 --> 00:01:14,040 the boss Mr Americana champion of the 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Everyman 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,980 Bruce Springsteen 20 00:01:18,980 --> 00:01:29,519 [Music] 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,119 music was really my first Refuge against 22 00:01:39,119 --> 00:01:40,979 things that were bothering me so it did 23 00:01:40,979 --> 00:01:43,440 help a lot 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,740 [Applause] 25 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:48,200 [Music] 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,259 you're young and you don't understand 27 00:01:51,259 --> 00:01:54,360 the different things you're feeling uh 28 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,920 you certainly don't understand if 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,659 there's any chemical imbalance in your 30 00:01:57,659 --> 00:02:01,220 makeup so all I knew was when I played 31 00:02:01,220 --> 00:02:04,860 it deeply centered me and chased away my 32 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:07,079 blue 33 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:10,758 I think that's how it all started 34 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:23,520 let me find it yeah 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,300 okay 36 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,660 all right I have a uh 37 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:33,480 favorite place I go I go to was a 38 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,819 favorite spot that my pop used to go to 39 00:02:35,819 --> 00:02:38,220 was a place called The Manasquan Inlet 40 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:40,700 and um 41 00:02:40,700 --> 00:02:42,720 yeah it's just a place where the boats 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,519 come in and the boats go out 43 00:02:44,519 --> 00:02:46,920 it was by the beach lovely set of rocks 44 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:47,700 so 45 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,519 this is me traveling home from uh short 46 00:02:50,519 --> 00:02:51,599 visit 47 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:54,300 at the Manasquan Inlet 48 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:57,180 uh traveling to a stream of headlights 49 00:02:57,180 --> 00:02:59,459 as commuter cars holding their day 50 00:02:59,459 --> 00:03:00,599 Travelers 51 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:04,500 flash by inches from my left handle grip 52 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,599 I moved North up the highway until a 53 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:08,280 traffic recedes 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,200 leaving only my headlight Illuminating 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,019 blank Road and dashes of white line 56 00:03:13,019 --> 00:03:14,879 white line 57 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:17,040 white line white line 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,819 my Ape Hanger high-rise handlebars 59 00:03:19,819 --> 00:03:22,680 thrust my arms out in Skyward shoulder 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,580 height 61 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:25,800 opening me up to the winds full force 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,019 it's a rough embrace 63 00:03:28,019 --> 00:03:30,780 as my gloved hands tighten their grip on 64 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:32,760 that new evening sky 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,099 the cosmos begins to flicker to life in 66 00:03:35,099 --> 00:03:38,700 the Twilight above me with no fairing a 67 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,040 60 mile per hour Gale steadily pounds 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,360 into my chest 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,420 nudging me to the back of my seat subtly 70 00:03:45,420 --> 00:03:47,760 threatening to blow me off 600 pounds of 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,019 speeding Steel 72 00:03:49,019 --> 00:03:50,879 reminding me of how the next moment 73 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,220 holds no guarantees 74 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:55,500 and of how good things are 75 00:03:55,500 --> 00:03:58,260 this day this life 76 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:00,060 how lucky I've been 77 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:02,159 how lucky I am 78 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:04,260 I turned the corner off the highway onto 79 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:07,379 a dark country road I hit my high beams 80 00:04:07,379 --> 00:04:09,780 I scanned the flat Farm Fields looking 81 00:04:09,780 --> 00:04:13,260 for deer all clear I twist the throttle 82 00:04:13,260 --> 00:04:17,238 that's rushing into my arms comes home 83 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,399 foreign 84 00:04:44,220 --> 00:04:46,800 amount of wonderful qualities about it 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,080 you know I mean I just love the country 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,840 itself I always have I think that I've 87 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:52,680 had 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,320 a critical but creative voice is the 89 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,300 voice I search for in my music whether 90 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:00,180 it was born in the USA I think the thing 91 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:01,919 that was about that song they had a 92 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:03,840 critical verse critical voice in the 93 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,759 verses and yet there was a sense of 94 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:08,479 pride in in birthplace in the choruses 95 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:11,220 and that's where I've always come from 96 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:14,040 you know I've I've 97 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,440 you know I've grew up in America and my 98 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,620 music is Thoroughly American and uh 99 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:21,540 while I certainly have a lot of 100 00:05:21,540 --> 00:05:23,820 criticisms about where we live it's 101 00:05:23,820 --> 00:05:26,039 something I've also always been uh I've 102 00:05:26,039 --> 00:05:29,300 always had a lot of pride in so 103 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:40,139 chasing hell drinking devil's blood 104 00:05:40,139 --> 00:05:43,860 born in New Jersey in 1949 Bruce 105 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:45,840 Springsteen spent his early years on 106 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,840 South Street in Freehold Borough his dad 107 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,840 Douglas was a bus driver of Dutch Irish 108 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,500 ancestry and his mother Adele zarrilli a 109 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,479 legal PA of Italian parentage 110 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:02,039 growing up as something of a shy and 111 00:06:02,039 --> 00:06:04,620 ghost loner his love of Music shown 112 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:07,259 through from an early age he was seven 113 00:06:07,259 --> 00:06:10,080 when he first saw Elvis Presley on The 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,159 Ed Sullivan Show 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,539 oh and not come home Glory Hallelujah 116 00:06:23,060 --> 00:06:34,199 [Music] 117 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:35,880 oh that's what I 118 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,419 I think that's how it all started 119 00:06:38,419 --> 00:06:41,100 you know you're young and you don't 120 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:41,900 understand 121 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:45,060 the different things you're feeling uh 122 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:46,560 you certainly don't understand if 123 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,360 there's any chemical imbalance in your 124 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,919 makeup so all I knew was when I played 125 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:55,560 it deeply centered me and chased away my 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,060 Blues you know for whatever the reason 127 00:06:57,060 --> 00:06:58,740 was 128 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:01,620 um I think it was there was an enormous 129 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:03,620 amount of self-realization in playing 130 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:06,419 and when you walked off the stage at 131 00:07:06,419 --> 00:07:08,460 night you knew who you were 132 00:07:08,460 --> 00:07:10,139 you know and you felt you've done 133 00:07:10,139 --> 00:07:12,300 something constructive so you're left 134 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:14,160 with a certain feeling of lightness and 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,860 a certain positivity that eluded me in a 136 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:19,740 lot of the rest of my daily life so 137 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:23,280 music was really my first Refuge against 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,199 things that were bothering me so it did 139 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:26,400 help a lot 140 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,860 [Music] 141 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:31,800 in 1965 Bruce started playing as a 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,020 jobbing musician along the Jersey Shore 143 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:36,840 it was during this period that he was 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,039 dubbed the boss 145 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:43,970 [Music] 146 00:07:44,699 --> 00:07:46,979 if your father with whom he had a very 147 00:07:46,979 --> 00:07:50,220 troubled relationship was alive today do 148 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:51,599 you think he would be tempted to vote 149 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:54,440 for Donald Trump that's a good question 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,800 if he voted at all you know I'm not sure 151 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,319 I don't know 152 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:02,940 he'd have a hard time he'd have a hard 153 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:04,500 time he was an angry man there wasn't it 154 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:07,400 he was an angry depressed married 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,440 he had you know I think if you just 156 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,660 if you just look towards my music and 157 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:15,919 you hear the way I I created a bit of an 158 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:19,020 archetype in my songs about him and it 159 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:20,340 was a little bit of a one-dimensional 160 00:08:20,340 --> 00:08:23,099 one one-dimensional portraiture he had a 161 00:08:23,099 --> 00:08:24,840 I had a lot of different qualities 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,479 beyond the fact that he struggled you 163 00:08:27,479 --> 00:08:29,520 know with with his with his life and his 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,159 and working you know so he was a much 165 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:33,719 more complicated character than that 166 00:08:33,719 --> 00:08:36,719 what about your mother would she be 167 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:38,520 in love with Hillary Clinton as a 168 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,020 candidate 169 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:42,179 that's a good question I'm not sure you 170 00:08:42,179 --> 00:08:43,559 know my mother 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,540 who when I was very young I know was 172 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:47,580 very democratic 173 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:49,560 um she was the first one to say you know 174 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:51,480 who are we mom we're Democrats why 175 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,580 they're for the working people 176 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:55,800 that was the only political discussion 177 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,980 we had in my house when I was a kid but 178 00:08:58,980 --> 00:08:59,779 um 179 00:08:59,779 --> 00:09:02,160 she was also she tended to get a little 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,560 more conservative as she got older but 181 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,000 she wouldn't be a trump voter 182 00:09:15,959 --> 00:09:18,480 it's obvious that his life was a bit of 183 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,820 a struggle at the start and his his mum 184 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:23,160 bought him a very cheap guitar but I 185 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,720 have the save for it I think it was an 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,080 18 guitar a few years later she took out 187 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 a loan for another guitar and much 188 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,279 better guitar for sixty dollars so years 189 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:34,920 later he paid her tribute in the song 190 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,720 The wish which starts off with him and 191 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,279 his mum looking in the music shop window 192 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:40,860 and then him getting the Japanese guitar 193 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:42,839 beneath the Christmas tree and talks 194 00:09:42,839 --> 00:09:44,040 about dancing around the living room 195 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,019 with it with his mum so it was a it was 196 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:48,000 a lovely tribute to his mum it became 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,380 readily apparent like that he had a 198 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:51,180 really prodigious gift and talent and 199 00:09:51,180 --> 00:09:52,800 skill and he was playing talent shows 200 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,660 and forming bands locally in New Jersey 201 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:56,700 he was a bit of a loner he didn't bother 202 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:58,140 going to his own high school graduation 203 00:09:58,140 --> 00:09:59,700 and of course this new music is 204 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:01,320 happening all around him you know rock 205 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,480 music he's giving him his he's giving 206 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,040 him clues about how he can piece 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,080 together his identity if you like as far 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,700 as when I became really conscious of 209 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:11,399 seeking out music as a way to search for 210 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:15,360 identity that was early Rock Records 211 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 um you know probably the early Elvis 212 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,959 records early surf records some of the 213 00:10:21,959 --> 00:10:24,060 doo-wop records from the late 50s and 214 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:26,519 60s that was when you were those are the 215 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:27,839 those are the years when you're in your 216 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:30,060 late teens or actually early early teens 217 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:31,019 where 218 00:10:31,019 --> 00:10:32,700 you know you're trying to figure out who 219 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:34,500 you are and I think kids turn to popular 220 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:37,080 culture for for 221 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,320 initially a starting place I like the 222 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,820 way that guy dresses or I like the way 223 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:43,740 the feeling this music evokes or that's 224 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:45,480 cool so those are the earliest records 225 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,660 that that I think that I experienced as 226 00:10:48,660 --> 00:10:50,579 a search for for identity which I really 227 00:10:50,579 --> 00:10:52,980 kind of carried through all of my music 228 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:54,959 to this day you know he ended up 229 00:10:54,959 --> 00:10:56,279 becoming lead singer of a band called 230 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:58,680 The castiles and it's interesting 231 00:10:58,680 --> 00:10:59,459 because there's like this whole 232 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:01,500 psychedelic Revolution kind of going on 233 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:04,200 in 1965 1966 and Bruce Springsteen's 234 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,160 kind of untouched from that 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,380 when Bruce was only 18 he was called up 236 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:17,240 to the draft in the Vietnam War 237 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:21,240 [Music] 238 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,940 a committed pacifist it was a cause he 239 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:26,399 did not believe in but he failed his 240 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,260 physical anyway following a motorcycle 241 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:30,390 accident a few months earlier 242 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:35,139 [Music] 243 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:46,079 Bruce was now free to pursue his music 244 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:47,100 career 245 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:50,160 playing in dingy Dives at Smoky bars 246 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,920 along the east coast he was determined 247 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,740 to make it big and it wasn't long before 248 00:11:55,740 --> 00:11:57,899 he became the greatest exponent of what 249 00:11:57,899 --> 00:12:00,839 was soon to become the famous Jersey 250 00:12:00,839 --> 00:12:03,740 Shore sound 251 00:12:04,630 --> 00:12:07,689 [Music] 252 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,680 by now he had carefully cherry-picked 253 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,420 the band that would back and support him 254 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:15,839 for nearly 40 years minus one very 255 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:18,540 important character the story about when 256 00:12:18,540 --> 00:12:20,339 he first met him he came into a club and 257 00:12:20,339 --> 00:12:22,140 and the wind was howling so much the 258 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,640 wind clowns opened the door the hinges 259 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,680 fell off and Clarence enters you know 260 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,959 it's wonderful mythology you know it's 261 00:12:27,959 --> 00:12:29,100 love 262 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:31,500 you know it's more than being married 263 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,740 it's more than being male female as two 264 00:12:34,740 --> 00:12:37,500 men two men too strong very veral men 265 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,779 finding that space in life where they 266 00:12:39,779 --> 00:12:42,680 can can Let Go enough of their 267 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:46,139 masculinity to to feel the passion of 268 00:12:46,139 --> 00:12:48,779 love you know and respect and that's 269 00:12:48,779 --> 00:12:52,860 what it is it's love respect and Trust 270 00:12:52,860 --> 00:12:55,500 you know three qualities that every 271 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:57,480 marriage should have you know that's and 272 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,700 it's based on that you know friendships 273 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:01,680 are based on those things and you feel 274 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,279 it with a kiss 275 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,200 that Bruce trying to articulate The 276 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,899 Sounds in his head it requires trusted 277 00:13:09,899 --> 00:13:12,779 musicians who know his shorthand know 278 00:13:12,779 --> 00:13:14,639 his lingo and I think that's what these 279 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:16,620 Street Band really do for him 280 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:17,940 one of the things I always say I'm the 281 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:19,560 proudest of is that a friendship 282 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:22,200 survived and and uh those are the things 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,480 that were really important and and right 284 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,399 now it's just it's just nothing but a 285 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,139 ride you know it's great 286 00:13:28,139 --> 00:13:30,720 finding clearance was like gold dust for 287 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,300 Bruce the chemistry between the two men 288 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,940 became legendary and their friendship 289 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:39,240 was to spill over onto the stage much to 290 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,339 the Delight of their fans 291 00:13:41,339 --> 00:13:44,040 the E Street Band family was now 292 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,760 complete 293 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,300 in his early career in particular a lot 294 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:53,040 of people thought that he wrote like 295 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,839 Dylan and he also wrote like Van 296 00:13:54,839 --> 00:13:56,760 Morrison and sounded like Van Morrison 297 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,880 and I can understand a little in terms 298 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,440 of there's a certain blue-eyed Soul 299 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,200 there's a certain garage there's a real 300 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 masculinity to his music the early the 301 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,740 Early Bruce Springsteen stuff like 302 00:14:07,740 --> 00:14:09,540 definitely has a lineage to Bob Dylan 303 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:11,100 obviously he was obsessed with Woody 304 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:12,420 Guthrie and Bob Dylan was obsessed with 305 00:14:12,420 --> 00:14:14,279 what he got three music critics are 306 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:16,320 they're a very jaded species and if 307 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,459 somebody sounds like somebody then 308 00:14:17,459 --> 00:14:18,480 they're like they're instantly 309 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,620 dismissive because they're like well why 310 00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:21,000 do I need to listen to this person if 311 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,279 another person like this exists it 312 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,500 wasn't long before Bruce discovered how 313 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:27,600 cruel and demanding the music industry 314 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,300 could be the music that I loved the most 315 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,300 I go back to if I think about the 40s I 316 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:34,860 think of Frank Sinatra if I think of the 317 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:37,800 60s I think of probably Dylan and you 318 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,940 know the stones and the Beatles you 319 00:14:38,940 --> 00:14:40,860 think of the 70s I probably think of the 320 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:45,120 sex pistols and The Clash and and uh you 321 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,660 know in the early 90s I I think Nirvana 322 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,339 a lot of the new rock bands did that so 323 00:14:50,339 --> 00:14:52,199 I think it's something where 324 00:14:52,199 --> 00:14:54,660 where 325 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,199 that was music music that was evocative 326 00:14:58,199 --> 00:15:00,180 of a particular time in a particular 327 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:02,839 place put on Hank Williams and you see 328 00:15:02,839 --> 00:15:06,300 that American Countryside in the 40s the 329 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:08,880 minute his voice in the geography of the 330 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,399 land are intertwined you know it's it's 331 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:13,320 inextricable from one another you know 332 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Frank Sinatra New York City where people 333 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,300 imagine New York City in the 30s and 40s 334 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,300 that's intertwined forever you know and 335 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:23,399 I think I always wanted my music to to 336 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,800 summon up a certain time in a certain 337 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,480 place in a certain 338 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,180 inner geography Bruce began working on 339 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:32,399 his music with a ferocity an energy that 340 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,500 would ultimately totally confound his 341 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:35,880 critics 342 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,459 with John Hammond's guidance he said 343 00:15:38,459 --> 00:15:41,459 about recording his debut album for its 344 00:15:41,459 --> 00:15:44,639 title he stayed true to his roots naming 345 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,880 it greetings from Asbury Park a place in 346 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,800 Jersey which held many happy memories 347 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,720 for him it's interesting because you 348 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,120 have Bruce Springsteen coming at 72-73 349 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,399 on the east coast in New Jersey and then 350 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:57,959 you have this parallel you know Los 351 00:15:57,959 --> 00:15:59,880 Angeles singer-songwriter movement and 352 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,380 they were kind of doing schmaltzier more 353 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:02,579 saccharine kind of things and you have 354 00:16:02,579 --> 00:16:04,019 somebody like Bruce Springsteen he's not 355 00:16:04,019 --> 00:16:05,639 sitting there and kind of enjoying the 356 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:08,040 LA sunshine and kind of smoking weed by 357 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,959 pools he's in these like kind of gritty 358 00:16:09,959 --> 00:16:12,360 bars and like you know he's he's around 359 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,440 these people he's getting real 360 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,699 experiences 361 00:16:14,699 --> 00:16:16,500 if you think about it just the title 362 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,600 greetings from Asbury Park like he is 363 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,820 rooted in such a sense of place that's 364 00:16:20,820 --> 00:16:22,199 undeniable and I think he understood 365 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:24,120 that early on it has this audacity to 366 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,440 say I'm here and I'm from New Jersey 367 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,199 it's not New York hipster it's not La 368 00:16:28,199 --> 00:16:30,420 folky it's not this kind of Dylan 369 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:33,360 traveling hobo thing it's Jersey I 370 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,500 always thought I was writing American 371 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,959 Music in the sense that that was where I 372 00:16:36,959 --> 00:16:39,440 came from but on the other hand my 373 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,759 biggest audience 374 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:43,980 certainly for the past 10 years has been 375 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:46,259 in Continental Europe you know 376 00:16:46,259 --> 00:16:50,399 where we've had a deep deep support from 377 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,320 our fans over there I watched your 378 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,699 concert the other day but four hours and 379 00:16:53,699 --> 00:16:55,440 10 minutes I think I told you 380 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,000 um how do you do it I always have a 381 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,160 trouble stopping so it's not really it's 382 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,639 the opposite you know it's not really uh 383 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:06,540 yeah yeah the the night has an organic 384 00:17:06,540 --> 00:17:09,179 life of its own you know if I come out 385 00:17:09,179 --> 00:17:12,179 at night not quite knowing exactly where 386 00:17:12,179 --> 00:17:14,160 the audience is going to take me or 387 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,619 where I'm going to go and I want people 388 00:17:16,619 --> 00:17:19,859 to go home feeling like they've had a 389 00:17:19,859 --> 00:17:21,540 night that they're gonna that's gonna 390 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,699 resonate within them that's going to 391 00:17:23,699 --> 00:17:26,520 hopefully we go out to entertain we go 392 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,760 out to inspire uh we go out to stir you 393 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,860 to action 394 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:33,780 um so there's a lot at stake I feel when 395 00:17:33,780 --> 00:17:36,240 I go out on stage at night I I like that 396 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,919 I like playing for those steaks I always 397 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:40,200 have since I was a young man and that's 398 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,240 that's the way I go about it foreign 399 00:17:46,550 --> 00:17:49,280 [Music] 400 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,179 all the way from New Haven Connecticut 401 00:17:51,179 --> 00:17:53,880 we need tickets he's opening his tour 402 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,640 tonight I've seen him 78 I need tickets 403 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,100 and I need them bad 404 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:02,520 right here both of them all right this 405 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,240 is it I'm off I'll be honest with you 406 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,940 really okay I have to hand it to Bruce 407 00:18:08,940 --> 00:18:12,380 Springsteen I don't think that it's just 408 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:15,179 uh him in particular being an artist 409 00:18:15,179 --> 00:18:18,840 that has made this whole Fascination uh 410 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,360 totally you know just everybody go crazy 411 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:24,660 and he has uh I think it's his 412 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:27,120 personality that has done it he has 413 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,820 coupled his 414 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:31,039 um 415 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:35,220 oh boy he's made everybody love him more 416 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:38,820 than they love Jesus okay basically no 417 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:40,620 I'm serious I mean he has sold more 418 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,220 records than anybody as ever sold 419 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:47,220 far as I I can see you know and sold out 420 00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:49,020 more concerts and everybody wants them 421 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:51,179 and everybody wants to touch him and you 422 00:18:51,179 --> 00:18:53,160 know but he has to be doing something 423 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,820 right and that is he's basically a nice 424 00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,480 person 425 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,460 what do you expect to see that you can't 426 00:19:02,460 --> 00:19:05,820 see from anybody else one guy real sway 427 00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:07,799 the one guy who puts it all on the line 428 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:11,220 more work more everything I crawl three 429 00:19:11,220 --> 00:19:13,140 thousand miles on crushed glass to see 430 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:13,700 Bruce perform 431 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:23,100 [Applause] 432 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:23,340 ance 433 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:41,720 [Music] 434 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,440 real friends 435 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:52,570 [Music] 436 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:07,880 [Music] 437 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,120 come on 438 00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:26,960 [Music] 439 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,160 I would say he has this extraordinary 440 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,340 ability to to take a giant room a 441 00:20:32,340 --> 00:20:34,320 stadium and reduce it to the size of a 442 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,240 small room I I remember seeing him you 443 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,860 know before I actually saw him live when 444 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:40,980 I was a teenager saw him on a TV and I 445 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:44,160 think it was about 1978 and it was a 446 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,580 concert in London and I just thought wow 447 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,260 and you could see the happiness on his 448 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:51,240 face you know that's where that's where 449 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,480 he belonged however many shows he wants 450 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,220 to play on the East Coast especially you 451 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:58,020 know if he wants to book 10 shows and 10 452 00:20:58,020 --> 00:20:59,580 football stadiums across the Eastern 453 00:20:59,580 --> 00:21:00,780 City Board he's going to sell at 10 454 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:02,820 shows I love coming across Him Live you 455 00:21:02,820 --> 00:21:04,080 know I'll go out of my way to see him 456 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,640 live you know Big Boy and steal a ticket 457 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,039 to see him live because that to me is 458 00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:10,500 the essence of of who he really is and 459 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:12,299 he knows exactly how to structure what 460 00:21:12,299 --> 00:21:14,760 could you know a two-hour set he never 461 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Flags 462 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,240 and he will always he will always play a 463 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,799 song with your desperate desperate to 464 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:22,080 hear and his energy is just unfailing 465 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,600 it's it's remarkable he makes an effort 466 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,220 to come to every single part of the 467 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:27,059 stage 468 00:21:27,059 --> 00:21:30,120 responds to the crowd so that barrier 469 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,679 that now exists these days in modern 470 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:34,020 certain Concepts between between the the 471 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:36,140 front of the the crowd and the stage 472 00:21:36,140 --> 00:21:38,159 evaporates I had a friend who was really 473 00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:39,960 into him and he went to play at a 474 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,400 football stadium called St James's Park 475 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,799 in Newcastle and that the friend said 476 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,320 look this guy's on stage for so long we 477 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,120 may have to break away and have a meal 478 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:50,340 during the concert so I I bought this 479 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:51,840 idea that Springsteen plays for four 480 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,580 hours we go for an hour we go and have a 481 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:54,659 meal in a restaurant we come back for 482 00:21:54,659 --> 00:21:55,980 the last hour of course it wasn't quite 483 00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:57,960 like that we went into this massive 484 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,760 crowd tens of thousands of people we got 485 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,260 near the front as you do you push 486 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:03,480 through when you're in your teens and we 487 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,100 were just locked in position for the 488 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,080 full set which must have been two and a 489 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,280 half three hours and I can remember 490 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,280 almost every song and and it was it was 491 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,380 incredible he is an incredible performer 492 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:15,480 because his his songs are built for 493 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,080 stadiums 494 00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:26,039 by 1974 the Jersey Shore sound was 495 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:27,840 really Making Waves in the Rock world 496 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,480 and Rolling Stone magazine decided to 497 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,580 send one of its top Riders along to 498 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:34,620 discover what all the excitement was 499 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,860 about what happened next was quite 500 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:39,179 extraordinary 501 00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:42,179 around the time of E Street Shuffle he 502 00:22:42,179 --> 00:22:43,320 encountered for the first time John 503 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Landau and he was to become a really key 504 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240 figure in his in his life in his career 505 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,539 and Landau wrote after seeing Bruce that 506 00:22:51,539 --> 00:22:53,039 he had seen the future of rock and roll 507 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,140 and his name was Bruce Springsteen and 508 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,720 he said on a night that he needed to 509 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,780 feel young he brutally made him feel 510 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,039 that he was hearing music for the first 511 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,500 time it's almost like you yes you're 512 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:07,200 saving for gold every day so he would 513 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480 have been excited by Springsteen and he 514 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,460 will have got it what he actually did 515 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:13,500 was was create his own future 516 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:15,000 so there's the sense that suddenly John 517 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,159 Lando has a future away from being the 518 00:23:17,159 --> 00:23:18,780 miserable existence of a rock critic 519 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:21,600 which is a an awful cul-de-sac my first 520 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,820 impressions of him from seeing him live 521 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:27,720 and getting to know him in 1974 were 522 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,860 that he was he was a genius and that's 523 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:34,919 not something you you you lose you know 524 00:23:34,919 --> 00:23:38,280 and he's the same guy that I knew then 525 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,820 today I think he's better than ever and 526 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:45,539 uh he's an incredible person that inner 527 00:23:45,539 --> 00:23:48,419 core of talent and perception about the 528 00:23:48,419 --> 00:23:50,940 world around him it's just he brings it 529 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:53,460 with him it's just wherever it came from 530 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:56,520 he brings it with him so uh landau's 531 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,740 partnership with Bruce led to the 532 00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:01,140 exciting creation of a sound that would 533 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,720 stamp Springsteen's musical genius all 534 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,360 over the world with Born to Run 535 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:14,760 [Music] 536 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,360 foreign 537 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:22,589 [Music] 538 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,159 s I've ever made where after we mixed it 539 00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:28,380 I came home I put it on the next morning 540 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,720 and said that's exactly what I want it 541 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,820 to sound like he at this point really 542 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:34,620 started to show his perfectionism he 543 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:36,659 spent 14 months recording this and six 544 00:24:36,659 --> 00:24:38,760 months alone on the single Born to Run 545 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,059 and he was tremendously frustrated he is 546 00:24:42,059 --> 00:24:44,460 pacing about the studio and he's angry 547 00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:46,679 he's like a little ball of tension and 548 00:24:46,679 --> 00:24:48,960 he's scrolling lyric after lyric after 549 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,000 lyric in his notebook and trying to 550 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,520 communicate to his band why the sounds 551 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,200 they're playing aren't good enough and 552 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,000 why they aren't water in his head he 553 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,500 went through all this torment with 554 00:24:58,500 --> 00:24:59,580 himself because he'll have been 555 00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:00,600 listening to it and thinking that 556 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,059 doesn't really sound like me what would 557 00:25:03,059 --> 00:25:04,860 my mate saw the people that I grew up 558 00:25:04,860 --> 00:25:07,140 with in you know New Jersey think of 559 00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:08,760 that and then he brought in Steve 560 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,860 VanZant and almost like Steve VanZant 561 00:25:10,860 --> 00:25:12,419 was to say well look Bruce this is a 562 00:25:12,419 --> 00:25:14,820 great song this is a great sound and 563 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:16,919 he'll have needed that you know because 564 00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:19,080 it you know really you know part of the 565 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,880 sensitivity part of what makes him 566 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,520 special is is kind of that self-doubt 567 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,559 and that lack of self-confidence the 568 00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:27,779 process we used then was quite similar 569 00:25:27,779 --> 00:25:31,140 to the process we use now except not 570 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:34,860 anywhere near as painful you know it was 571 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:37,039 uh we were just learning to make records 572 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,340 and so uh the records were long and they 573 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,720 were hard and we didn't really know what 574 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,000 we were doing and we were also trying to 575 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,159 build a core philosophy around what our 576 00:25:47,159 --> 00:25:49,200 band was going to be and what we wanted 577 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,159 to talk about and and so it was really 578 00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:56,220 it was a very shaping 579 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:59,220 album it had to be amazing it had to be 580 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:00,659 amazing and therefore it had to sound 581 00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:02,400 amazing because all rock music really is 582 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,620 its sound he was still massively 583 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:07,860 frustrated uh and legendarily through 584 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,900 the entire recording into an alley and 585 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:11,760 said that he would rather cut this album 586 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400 live at the bottom line which is a dingy 587 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,380 club that they used to play at 588 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:18,240 um then then go back into a recording 589 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,919 studio and have that frustration of not 590 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:22,080 being able to perfect that sound 591 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,679 those seven or eight people or nine 592 00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,360 people or something where 593 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,700 just such a 594 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,340 a big part of my life at this point that 595 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:33,179 uh 596 00:26:33,179 --> 00:26:34,620 uh 597 00:26:34,620 --> 00:26:36,840 you know I mean I've lived my life I've 598 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,220 lived a lifetime with them you know 599 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:40,980 probably several lifetimes already so 600 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:42,600 it's it's always great to have everybody 601 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,100 alongside me at night 602 00:26:48,539 --> 00:26:50,700 but just when many thought Bruce 603 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:53,940 Springsteen's Glory Days were over he 604 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:55,860 bounced back with an astounding 605 00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:58,799 Vengeance with one of the most exciting 606 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:02,580 rock albums in music history Born in the 607 00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:03,779 USA 608 00:27:03,779 --> 00:27:05,700 one of the big hits from from Born in 609 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,440 the USA was dancing in the dark and it 610 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,480 has a quite legendary video 611 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,419 which shows Bruce playing live and he 612 00:27:12,419 --> 00:27:15,059 picks a girl out of the um of the 613 00:27:15,059 --> 00:27:16,679 audience to dance with her on stage and 614 00:27:16,679 --> 00:27:18,779 and people I think at the time thought 615 00:27:18,779 --> 00:27:21,720 maybe it's genuine footage it wasn't the 616 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,179 girl in the audience was an actress in 617 00:27:24,179 --> 00:27:25,620 fact she was Courtney Cox who would go 618 00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:28,200 on to be a huge star in friends and and 619 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,880 probably that video really started her 620 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,280 career 621 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:37,760 [Music] 622 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,640 can't start a fire 623 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,360 word about your little world Fallen 624 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:46,460 apart 625 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:49,860 guns were higher 626 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:53,870 even if we're just Dancing in the Dark 627 00:27:53,870 --> 00:27:57,189 [Music] 628 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:01,820 even if we're just dancing 629 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,730 even if we're just Dancing in the Dark 630 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:16,359 [Music] 631 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,580 1985 was to prove an astonishing year 632 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:23,100 for Bruce not only did he assert himself 633 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,440 as one of the biggest rock stars of all 634 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960 time but he also met his future wife 635 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,140 actress Julianne Phillips and married 636 00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:33,480 her soon after 637 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,179 it was very short-lived marriage and 638 00:28:36,179 --> 00:28:39,059 quite an unhappy one by ol accounts 639 00:28:39,059 --> 00:28:40,740 um it would go on to create the album 640 00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:43,020 ton of Love which 641 00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,820 was radically different to a lot of the 642 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:47,100 bombastic songs that he'd been recording 643 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,440 before is he seems very vulnerable 644 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080 a little broken and it's really one of 645 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,460 the classic breakup albums of all time 646 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:55,380 when you're in love with someone and 647 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:56,700 you're married to someone you you know 648 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:58,140 and especially with him coming from that 649 00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:01,140 kind of Catholic background no divorce 650 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,480 love is forever you've made that 651 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,520 commitment that will have tortured him 652 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,279 too there's a track called brilliant 653 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:09,900 disguise in which there's a lyric which 654 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,880 goes well I've tried so hard baby but I 655 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,799 just can't see what a woman like you is 656 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:15,600 doing with a man like me and I think 657 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,620 that pretty much sums up 658 00:29:18,899 --> 00:29:21,000 but it wasn't long before his broken 659 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,820 heart started to mend he began dating 660 00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:26,399 one of his backing singers Patty ski 661 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:29,159 Alpha whom he had also romance prior to 662 00:29:29,159 --> 00:29:31,380 his marriage with Phillips 663 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,659 for the first time in his career Bruce 664 00:29:33,659 --> 00:29:35,940 had to endure serious criticism in the 665 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:39,059 Press not about his music but about the 666 00:29:39,059 --> 00:29:41,159 hastiness in which he and Patty had 667 00:29:41,159 --> 00:29:42,899 started their Romance 668 00:29:42,899 --> 00:29:46,140 not long after he and Julian divorced on 669 00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:49,860 March 1st 1989. 670 00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:52,980 seems to be one half of a great 671 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,080 partnership with Bruce they seem to rely 672 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,640 on each other a great deal I think 673 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,039 creatively as well as personally along 674 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,419 with talking about Jersey he will always 675 00:30:00,419 --> 00:30:01,860 talk about Patty on stage particularly 676 00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:03,539 if she's not there you know some people 677 00:30:03,539 --> 00:30:07,500 say Arvest is attract and and for me 678 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,120 I just 679 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,460 and I couldn't function like that I like 680 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,440 to feel very close to somebody and know 681 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120 their whole feel like I know their whole 682 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,820 internal landscape and and that they 683 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:20,820 would know mine in return so that you're 684 00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:22,740 both in the same business we end up 685 00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:24,779 working together but 686 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:27,240 but um I just find it really helpful 687 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,460 because you really understand what the 688 00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:31,740 person needs and they understand what 689 00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:33,299 you need and 690 00:30:33,299 --> 00:30:35,640 my parents work together so it was 691 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,740 natural to me to be in a house where 692 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:40,620 people had very similar paths I like 693 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:42,899 that you know Bruce and I we grew up 10 694 00:30:42,899 --> 00:30:45,240 miles from each other so we have all the 695 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,260 same 696 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:48,360 you know in in our minds the old picture 697 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600 files are the same you know the it's 698 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480 nice to have a lot in common I think 699 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,700 that it just really helps you in that 700 00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:58,380 distance of that you feel like very 701 00:30:58,380 --> 00:31:00,299 Kindred when Bruce and I got together 702 00:31:00,299 --> 00:31:03,059 and and to have a strong marriage and 703 00:31:03,059 --> 00:31:04,860 have a beautiful family and three 704 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:07,440 children they're healthy it's so blessed 705 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,539 it just really is and I that's my 706 00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:11,580 priority because for me 707 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,700 it's it's beautifully stable and warm 708 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,620 and of course you have all the problems 709 00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:18,840 you know the same those kind of problems 710 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,419 but but in the long run I've never felt 711 00:31:21,419 --> 00:31:23,700 better in my entire life emotionally 712 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,440 I've never felt emotionally better 713 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:30,600 thank you thanks thanks a lot 714 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,659 thanks thanks a lot good it's uh surreal 715 00:31:35,659 --> 00:31:38,340 I'll leave you here 716 00:31:38,340 --> 00:31:42,059 in 1994 Bruce won the Oscar for best 717 00:31:42,059 --> 00:31:45,240 song for Streets of Philadelphia it was 718 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,159 the soundtrack of the highly acclaimed 719 00:31:47,159 --> 00:31:50,580 movie Philadelphia starring Tom Hanks as 720 00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:53,039 a struggling HIV patient 721 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,480 on March 1st 1995 he won four Grammys 722 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,440 and in 1996 he was Oscar nominated for 723 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Dead Man Walking for the film of the 724 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,740 same name but in 1998 he found himself 725 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,440 Waging War in a London court against a 726 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,360 company which had released some of his 727 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,179 early 1970s recordings without his 728 00:32:15,179 --> 00:32:17,520 permission they eventually settled out 729 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,980 of court with Springsteen gaining back 730 00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:23,039 the rights to his work well the way that 731 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,380 the way that you release and the Saucy 732 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:26,820 releases the way that you shape your 733 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:28,860 work it's the way that you shape your 734 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,080 career and then and who you are you know 735 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,940 it's the one of the most important 736 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:34,679 things the songwriter in the world you 737 00:32:34,679 --> 00:32:35,820 know it's something I've fought for 738 00:32:35,820 --> 00:32:37,980 since I was very young you know was the 739 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:40,919 uh control and of my music you know it's 740 00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:43,080 still a really important issue for me so 741 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,580 I'm glad that I came and I do it again 742 00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:47,220 he is respected by his peers 743 00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:49,740 um sting Bono 744 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:50,640 um 745 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,919 you know authorities on music Grail 746 00:32:52,919 --> 00:32:54,539 markers people like that they adore 747 00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:57,059 Bruce he's an intelligent 748 00:32:57,059 --> 00:33:00,419 but personable musician who is also a 749 00:33:00,419 --> 00:33:02,340 genius I heard they gave you I heard 750 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:03,539 they gave you a standing ovation 751 00:33:03,539 --> 00:33:05,520 yesterday in rehearsal bro oh yeah but I 752 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,840 think all these people were paid to be 753 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,340 there so I'm not sure if it counts 754 00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:21,349 [Music] 755 00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:29,760 [Music] 756 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760 foreign 757 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,700 I was working for one of the TV news 758 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,279 programs here and I had to fly to the 759 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:39,899 states and then having reported from New 760 00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:42,480 York I then went to New Jersey and I met 761 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,700 there a woman whose firefighter husband 762 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,340 had been in one of the twin towers and 763 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:49,380 who hadn't come back it was incredibly 764 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,480 powerful interview because she said to 765 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,279 me I'll never forget it that she he left 766 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,799 a note for her that day just to say and 767 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,740 this is just a normal day my love I love 768 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:00,779 you so much you changed my whole life I 769 00:34:00,779 --> 00:34:02,100 live for you and I can't wait to come 770 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,559 home and you know stay safe and it was 771 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,140 him that died and I remember being so 772 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:09,659 affected by just how much had been 773 00:34:09,659 --> 00:34:12,239 ripped away that day and then just as we 774 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,918 were chatting after the interview she 775 00:34:13,918 --> 00:34:16,199 said I've got a call from Bruce 776 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,280 Springsteen and I said well that's 777 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,599 amazing because of course he's from 778 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:19,619 around here you know I always wonder 779 00:34:19,619 --> 00:34:21,179 whether he's still connected with New 780 00:34:21,179 --> 00:34:23,580 Jersey and still cares about it and she 781 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,139 said yeah usually she said he'd been 782 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:27,119 ringing up the the widows of 783 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,839 firefighters and you know she loved his 784 00:34:30,839 --> 00:34:33,480 music and he was local and he was a real 785 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,280 child of New Jersey but more than that 786 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,159 he'd he'd run up the widows of the 787 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,199 firefighters to speak to them at length 788 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:41,520 about what they were going through and 789 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,980 you know to try and give them some 790 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,080 comfort and I found that incredibly 791 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,300 powerful I mean actually sort of 792 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:50,520 reinforced to me the fact that that what 793 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,619 I feel I hear in Springsteen's music is 794 00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:54,540 something very very authentic about blue 795 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,180 collar New Jersey and that he's still 796 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:58,770 very much locked into that world 797 00:34:58,770 --> 00:35:00,240 [Music] 798 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,419 foreign 799 00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:06,599 really understood what had happened or 800 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,460 what could happen and so I think I was 801 00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:10,859 sitting down to just sort of 802 00:35:10,859 --> 00:35:12,839 okay well what do I do now you know what 803 00:35:12,839 --> 00:35:15,420 what do you say now how is your dialogue 804 00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:18,060 with your audience changed 805 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,339 what what do they need what do you need 806 00:35:20,339 --> 00:35:22,680 to say 807 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,780 you ended up talking to the families and 808 00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:26,880 a lot of that ended up inspiring kind of 809 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,760 uh that record and again you know that's 810 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640 that's he's doing research you know he's 811 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,960 collecting oral history is he's doing 812 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,520 what Woody Guthrie did you know he's 813 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,500 he's hearing the stories firsthand and 814 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:38,640 that's I think what makes him a great 815 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,619 songwriter he's doing research and he 816 00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:43,140 was back on form and he's back to what 817 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:44,520 he does he you know there's that 818 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520 directness about it you know he doesn't 819 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,160 he doesn't shirk the issues because 820 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,099 again there's a part of Springsteen that 821 00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:55,260 goes back to New Jersey and where it 822 00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,020 came from and that Catholic thing he 823 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:01,440 wants to put something back and I don't 824 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,619 mean financially I mean emotionally 825 00:36:04,619 --> 00:36:06,359 you know because otherwise what's it all 826 00:36:06,359 --> 00:36:07,920 about it's not just about being a pop 827 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,099 star 828 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,859 do you think it's your duty as as a 829 00:36:16,859 --> 00:36:20,160 famous musician as a Lyricist as a as a 830 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,800 kind of Guardian of the American soul to 831 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,180 get involved politically 832 00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,520 not necessarily you know I think that 833 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520 I've had a voice that's spanned over a 834 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,740 period of 40 years now 835 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:36,540 people generally know where I'm coming 836 00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:40,260 from and uh my point of view 837 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:43,020 I believe that if you figured out there 838 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:46,800 on the stump which I've done a few times 839 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,180 um 840 00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:50,040 I think it's nice to show some support 841 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,880 but I I don't necessarily believe that 842 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,280 musicians turn the tide or or have any 843 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,700 deep deep political influence in that 844 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:00,460 sense 845 00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:05,460 [Music] 846 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:07,619 fire 847 00:37:07,619 --> 00:37:09,260 fire 848 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:14,820 without a spawn s for higher 849 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:18,740 even if we're just dancing 850 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040 he's very careful I think not to get too 851 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,500 involved in Party politics that's not to 852 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,240 say that his songs aren't very political 853 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,579 with a small p and and the rising was 854 00:37:32,579 --> 00:37:34,680 clearly a song about in some way 855 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,079 reaffirming the American Soul after it 856 00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:40,680 had taken such a a beating on 9 11. 857 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,359 um but I think he's somebody who stays 858 00:37:42,359 --> 00:37:44,640 Above The Fray he's very because his 859 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,220 words can can move people and he doesn't 860 00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:50,520 he doesn't speak as much as he could in 861 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,480 the political world it's quite 862 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,099 interesting I think he he's got a sense 863 00:37:53,099 --> 00:37:55,440 of his own importance actually when 864 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,480 Obama had won 865 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,280 um his song The Rising was the first 866 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,920 song played apparently um 867 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,440 the announcement after Obama's speech 868 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160 and again I think after his inauguration 869 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,320 that wonderful flowering he had under 870 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,540 Obama when suddenly he sees the better 871 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,400 side of America that the side of America 872 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,800 that that really wants to do good things 873 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,359 that still believes in this innocent 874 00:38:18,359 --> 00:38:20,460 sense of the American dream and in his 875 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:23,160 60s he still has the American dream and 876 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,260 and the Reformation of of the E Street 877 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:27,599 Band and suddenly he's not on his own 878 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,780 playing lonely Melancholy songs about 879 00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:32,520 the breakdown of a society and the 880 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,140 breakdown of a dream he's suddenly up 881 00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:35,880 again he's lifted himself up again he's 882 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,440 got this incredible power again he's 883 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,940 with his mates we're all in it together 884 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:40,500 we're out again we're gonna we're gonna 885 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:42,119 conquer some more territory we're gonna 886 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,640 do a bit more plundering and that's what 887 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,140 I love about Bruce 888 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:48,359 that same year he received a Golden 889 00:38:48,359 --> 00:38:50,579 Globe for best song in a movie for 890 00:38:50,579 --> 00:38:52,859 Mickey rourkes the wrestler after 891 00:38:52,859 --> 00:38:55,079 receiving a heartfelt plea from Rourke 892 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,099 Springsteen supplied the song for free 893 00:38:59,099 --> 00:39:01,320 I was just so glad when Bruce got it for 894 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,820 the wrestler because you know I wrote 895 00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:04,859 him a letter and he wrote the song for 896 00:39:04,859 --> 00:39:05,940 me and 897 00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:07,260 you know that would have been enough for 898 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,060 me tonight 899 00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:12,300 and what of the E Street Band now sadly 900 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,820 Danny federici has died now 901 00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:18,119 um but he was a very talented man and 902 00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:19,920 played everything from the accordion to 903 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,740 God knows what else everything 904 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:27,060 um max is the band leader for the Kenner 905 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:30,180 and Brian show his son Phil Jay has 906 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,940 filled in on tour for Bruce uh so he 907 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:35,880 hasn't had to give up his day job and uh 908 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920 Steve VanZant appears in The Sopranos 909 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,320 which uh it's all quite extraordinary 910 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,700 but they all come back together to 911 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:43,020 support Bruce 912 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:44,940 Clarence Clement says it is an 913 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:47,220 extraordinary figure in um in Bruce's 914 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,619 band and on his records he couldn't be 915 00:39:49,619 --> 00:39:51,540 nobody else could fill that role and 916 00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:54,119 Bruce obviously loves him with a fiery 917 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:55,380 passion 918 00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,839 um musically he brings something that I 919 00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:01,200 think could only really belong in a in a 920 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,940 blue collar town this kind of ritziness 921 00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:04,560 it dresses up a song like it's going out 922 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,700 on the town you know it gives a bit of 923 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,500 Razzle Dazzle you know there have been 924 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:08,760 times they thought about leaving him off 925 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,380 a record but then he comes back in and 926 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:12,780 he makes it he makes that E Street sound 927 00:40:12,780 --> 00:40:15,000 when we went on stage to play we were 928 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,220 playing for each other you know we had 929 00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:19,380 live up to the expectations of each 930 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,440 other as a group to ban and to to turn 931 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,940 each other on to keep each other going 932 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:25,740 you know and the other thousands of 933 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:27,599 people just like peeking through a peak 934 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:29,760 a peak hole at what's happening oh these 935 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,920 guys having a great time on stage and so 936 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,720 that's how it's always been with uh with 937 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,339 the E Street Band we've just been having 938 00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:37,500 a great time ourselves and we invite 939 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,260 others to look in you know to because if 940 00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:41,640 we play to the best of our own 941 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,520 capacities that that's that's sufficient 942 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,960 you know that's that's what it's all 943 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,500 about yeah 944 00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:56,520 [Applause] 945 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480 thank you 946 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,619 [Music] 947 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,900 I think what's happened is it's very 948 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,940 visible right now because 949 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:18,000 the past 40 years as the 950 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,920 de-industrialization 951 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,619 and globalization has affected a lot of 952 00:41:22,619 --> 00:41:23,880 work lives 953 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,760 the issues that that matter 954 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,060 to a lot of hard-working folks have 955 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:32,040 haven't been addressed you know it's 956 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,480 like this if I couldn't be a musician 957 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,740 tomorrow and I had to find something 958 00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:37,320 else to do I have no idea what I'd do 959 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,900 I'd be at a loss so your steel mill 960 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:42,540 closes down your factory moves it moves 961 00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:45,660 south or moves overseas 962 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:46,380 um 963 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:48,540 that's your life walking away from you 964 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,280 you know so uh 965 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,920 it's really a moment where their 966 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,079 concerns have come to the front of 967 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:56,520 course it usually only happens when 968 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,420 someone wants your vote but uh it has 969 00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:03,540 happened and so there you know I think 970 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,520 they're demanding a response of some 971 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,460 sort and neither party has has really 972 00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,380 addressed their concerns I mean the the 973 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:12,660 Landscapes that you write about in your 974 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,460 lyrics and I've traveled through a lot 975 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:16,260 of these places in America myself I 976 00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:17,579 think they're heartbreaking and these 977 00:42:17,579 --> 00:42:19,320 are heartbreaking Landscapes of kind of 978 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,839 urban desolation and despair and 979 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:23,220 abandonment 980 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:25,079 and a lot of the people that I speak to 981 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:27,780 on these trips they love Donald Trump 982 00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:30,000 they love him because they think that he 983 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,579 is finally hearing them do you get that 984 00:42:32,579 --> 00:42:34,920 in New York in your community I mean the 985 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,300 people that you used to know in New 986 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,680 Jersey as well can you understand where 987 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,180 that's coming from I mean I know some 988 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:42,900 Trump voters you know but um 989 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:46,880 I think that he's really 990 00:42:47,339 --> 00:42:49,619 he's really preyed upon that part of 991 00:42:49,619 --> 00:42:52,680 part of part of the country because he 992 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,980 because he's very glib and superficial 993 00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:58,200 answers to very very entrenched and very 994 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,660 difficult problems but their answers 995 00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:02,040 that sound pretty good if you've 996 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,640 struggled for the past 20 or 30 years so 997 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,500 um you can understand his appeal oh yeah 998 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,660 yeah I can understand somebody with 999 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:11,160 simple answers to very complicated 1000 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200 questions who sound like they're 1001 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,119 listening to you for the first time do 1002 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,140 you think the people who like about 1003 00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:17,339 racists 1004 00:43:17,339 --> 00:43:20,760 no no I I don't I don't believe that uh 1005 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,800 you can't generalize like that you know 1006 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,180 I think I think there's all kinds of 1007 00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:26,280 people that are interested in them for 1008 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,920 for a variety of different reasons but 1009 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,780 in a way those I mean America's bill 1010 00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:31,980 that part of America has been looking 1011 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:34,740 for someone to come and talk to them for 1012 00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:36,119 a very long time you did it with your 1013 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,460 music and uh you write about that very 1014 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:40,680 eloquently in your book yeah but 1015 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,180 politically they've been left behind 1016 00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:44,880 haven't they I believe so yes 1017 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680 are the Democrats the answer this time 1018 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480 is Hillary Clinton the answer I don't 1019 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,480 know you know I don't really know 1020 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,440 um 1021 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,720 I think Bernie Sanders had had some 1022 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,000 appeal you know 1023 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,339 um 1024 00:43:58,339 --> 00:44:00,900 but I'm not sure if there's anybody out 1025 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:02,339 there who really 1026 00:44:02,339 --> 00:44:04,200 is going to dig into those problems 1027 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,900 because I saw you uh playing with Barack 1028 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,880 Obama in Madison Wisconsin I think it 1029 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,260 was his last rally in the last election 1030 00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:14,160 in 2012. massive crowd 1031 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,240 um are you going to play for Hillary 1032 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,579 Clinton this time around hmm I don't 1033 00:44:17,579 --> 00:44:19,079 have any plans at the moment you know 1034 00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:20,400 it's only three weeks left in the 1035 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,760 election and uh has she asked you 1036 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,660 um 1037 00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:27,180 no they've been in contact to use a 1038 00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:28,980 piece of music or something which which 1039 00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:32,460 is is fine by me I think she she I think 1040 00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:34,140 she'll be a good president you know I 1041 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:36,300 don't hear undiluted enthusiasm you know 1042 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,220 but 1043 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,200 um 1044 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,160 um but you know can we play for Trump no 1045 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,589 [Laughter] 1046 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,720 Bruce Springsteen has won 20 Grammys two 1047 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:55,079 Golden Globes and an Academy Award and 1048 00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:57,720 he sold over 120 million albums 1049 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,060 worldwide 1050 00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,400 Bruce has said that he spent much of his 1051 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,380 life as a musician measuring the 1052 00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:06,599 distance between the American dream and 1053 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,300 the reality to me that quote completely 1054 00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:10,800 sums brings you up because it's true 1055 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,780 he's come from a working class New 1056 00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:14,280 Jersey background and he's made it he's 1057 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,540 fulfilled the dream but I don't think 1058 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:17,460 he's even noticed he's actually really 1059 00:45:17,460 --> 00:45:19,560 looking at all the people who who 1060 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,359 haven't made it who haven't got what 1061 00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:22,859 they dreamed of and he's feeling like he 1062 00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:24,420 had no right to dream of it himself in 1063 00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:26,400 the first place and it is always that 1064 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,500 sense you know the the Chevrolet is 1065 00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:30,960 hurtling down Thunder Road but where's 1066 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,700 it going to you know it's it's going to 1067 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,920 end as a burnt out wreck and it's all 1068 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,140 the passengers you know Wendy and Born 1069 00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:39,839 to Run and the sadness of of her 1070 00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:42,119 realizing as well that they they weren't 1071 00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,300 going to get anywhere and I think I just 1072 00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:47,040 it's so powerful it is such an American 1073 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,900 thing as well it's it's because I think 1074 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,000 the Americans dream bigger to me 1075 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,740 Springsteen's just one of those people I 1076 00:45:52,740 --> 00:45:55,020 will always be interested what's he 1077 00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:56,579 gonna come up with next I think he's 1078 00:45:56,579 --> 00:45:57,599 aware of the fact that the American 1079 00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,220 dream isn't necessarily then you get 1080 00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:01,260 whatever you want you didn't give up he 1081 00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:02,940 like suffered through like you know a 1082 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:04,500 legion of hardships you know there was 1083 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,480 doubt and heartache and all these things 1084 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,520 and he they're wrapped up in this person 1085 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,740 he has in many ways achieved the 1086 00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:12,900 American dream playing rock and roll on 1087 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,560 a great American invention however he 1088 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,839 misses I should imagine certainly his 1089 00:46:18,839 --> 00:46:20,880 songs would suggest the life of the 1090 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,560 ordinary man with the porch and the girl 1091 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,780 dancing and the radio playing there is 1092 00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:26,460 that chance that his best song might 1093 00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:28,619 still come and I think there's very few 1094 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:29,760 artists that you can say that about and 1095 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,020 that's what makes him so rare and so 1096 00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:32,940 special I've been doing it for 30 years 1097 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:35,339 I'm going to continue to do it mainly 1098 00:46:35,339 --> 00:46:38,760 because I like it it's fun for me I hope 1099 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,619 it provides lots of other things you 1100 00:46:40,619 --> 00:46:44,579 know uh we try to be dutiful about it we 1101 00:46:44,579 --> 00:46:46,440 try to be professionals about it I 1102 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,720 believe in the band as a professional 1103 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,280 unit when you buy your ticket our 1104 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,720 handshake is our word we're going to 1105 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:53,160 come out when you come on that night 1106 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,500 we're going to be the greatest band we 1107 00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:58,380 can be you know we work real hard to 1108 00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:02,780 provide that consistently every night 1109 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:20,780 [Music] 1110 00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:24,720 looking ahead 1111 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,220 you know you've done so much what else 1112 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:27,960 are you going to do what's your what are 1113 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,980 your what are the things you haven't 1114 00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:31,260 done there what's on your bucket list my 1115 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:32,880 thing is I just keep doing the same old 1116 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,099 thing you know I mean I work I put my 1117 00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:36,980 records out 1118 00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:39,480 I continue to talk about the things that 1119 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,859 I'm interested in 1120 00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:43,859 and uh 1121 00:47:43,859 --> 00:47:45,960 um 1122 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,500 you know it's it's those are the uh 1123 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:51,839 that's the way I approach my job so I 1124 00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:53,520 take it day to day you've written this 1125 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,319 this great book so obviously now you're 1126 00:47:55,319 --> 00:47:56,700 going to get The Nobel Prize for 1127 00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:59,880 literature I don't think so that's why 1128 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,460 you wrote it oh yeah sure not just not 1129 00:48:02,460 --> 00:48:03,960 just for your lyrics but also for you 1130 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,380 know for a real book 1131 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:10,140 the boss Bruce Springsteen 1132 00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:12,720 one of the greatest performers ever to 1133 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,240 Grace the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and 1134 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:16,920 one of the brightest stars that will 1135 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,000 continue to shine for Generations 1136 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,579 let me find it yeah 1137 00:48:23,579 --> 00:48:26,480 okay 1138 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,960 all right I have a uh 1139 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,480 favorite place I go I go to was a 1140 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880 favorite spot that my pop used to go to 1141 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,280 was a place called The Manasquan Inlet 1142 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,560 and um 1143 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,359 it's just a place yeah it's just a place 1144 00:48:42,359 --> 00:48:43,920 where the boats come in and the boats go 1145 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,640 out 1146 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,880 just by the beach lovely set of rocks so 1147 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,700 this is me traveling home from a short 1148 00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:51,660 visit 1149 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,420 at the Manasquan Inlet 1150 00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:57,300 traveling to a stream of headlights 1151 00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,520 as commuter cars holding their day 1152 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,839 Travelers 1153 00:49:00,839 --> 00:49:04,740 flash by inches from my left handle grip 1154 00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:06,720 I moved North up the highway until the 1155 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,400 traffic recedes 1156 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,319 leaving only my headlight Illuminating 1157 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:11,640 blank Road 1158 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,940 and dashes of white line white line 1159 00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:17,160 white line white line 1160 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,000 my Ape Hanger high-rise handlebars 1161 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,800 thrust my arms out in Skyward shoulder 1162 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,700 height 1163 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:25,920 opening me up to the winds full force 1164 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,079 it's a rough embrace 1165 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,960 as my gloved hands tighten their grip on 1166 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,880 that new evening sky 1167 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,220 the cosmos begins to flicker to life in 1168 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:36,839 the Twilight above me 1169 00:49:36,839 --> 00:49:38,520 with no fairing 1170 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,099 a 60 mile per hour Gale steadily pounds 1171 00:49:41,099 --> 00:49:42,420 into my chest 1172 00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:44,880 nudging me to the back of my seat 1173 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,280 subtly threatened in the blow me off 600 1174 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,220 pounds of speeding steel reminding me of 1175 00:49:50,220 --> 00:49:53,400 how the next moment holds no guarantees 1176 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,619 of how good things are 1177 00:49:55,619 --> 00:49:58,380 this day this life 1178 00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:00,180 how lucky I've been 1179 00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:02,280 how lucky I am 1180 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,560 I turned the corner off the highway onto 1181 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,500 a dark Country Road I hit my high beams 1182 00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:09,900 I scanned the flat Farm Fields looking 1183 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:13,440 for deer all clear I twist the throttle 1184 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,640 as rushing into my arms comes home 1185 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,880 [Music] 1186 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,000 can't start a fire 1187 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,720 word about your little world falling 1188 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:35,339 apart these guns were higher 1189 00:50:35,339 --> 00:50:41,599 even if we're just Dancing in the Dark 1190 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,240 even if we're just dancing 1191 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:57,260 even if we're just Dancing in the Dark 1192 00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:02,229 [Music] 86937

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