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This isn't good.
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Don't say a word.
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Let me handle this.
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License and registration.
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It's a... it's a rental.
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Mr. Turriago from Manhattan.
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Long way from home.
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Uh, yeah, just doing a
construction job for my father.
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Well, you seem to be
in an awful hurry.
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-Uh...
-Mind if we look in the back?
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Look, we're just trying to get to
the job site before our shift starts.
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Step out of the vehicle.
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But... why?
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I'm not gonna ask again.
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Spread your legs.
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He's clean.
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Either you show us what's
in the back of the truck,
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or everyone's going
to jail right now.
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Okay, okay.
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I got nothing to hide.
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John, secure those other two.
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Out of the car, now!
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We haven't done anything wrong!
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Out! Get out of the car, now!
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Hurry up!
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You see? Just
construction equipment.
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What's in the trunk?
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Uh, just some clothing.
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Open it. Now. Let's go, come on.
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The key's bent.
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Damn it, open the trunk!
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There's a body
in the trunk! He's running!
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On the ground, now!
Hands on your head! Now!
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You're under arrest for murder.
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I'm Judy Sheindlin.
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Before I was a judge on TV,
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I was a judge in New
York City for 15 years,
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and a lawyer for 17
years before that.
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While serving on both
sides of the bench,
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I learned that justice doesn't
always end up feeling...
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just.
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Sometimes, the impact of one
decision by a police officer,
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a lawyer, or even a judge, can
change the way justice is delivered.
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We're going to demonstrate
this by taking landmark cases
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from actual crimes
committed by real people.
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And we'll recreate them
with our trial lawyers
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and yours truly as
the trial judge.
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While we're not going to
recreate the trials verbatim,
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all the court's ultimate
decisions are accurate.
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It will be up to you to decide
whether the case was fair
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and the outcome just.
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Real
cases, actual lawyers,
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surprising verdicts...
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Justice on Trial.
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This episode of Justice on Trial
seems pretty open and shut.
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A traffic stop led to the
discovery of a dead body.
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And Leonardo Turriago
was arrested for murder.
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As you will see, he
even confessed to it.
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So, why are we
examining this case?
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It's a legal concept called
"fruit of the poisonous tree."
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You see, the Fourth
Amendment to our Constitution
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protects us against
unreasonable searches
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and requires probable
cause to exist
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before the police can search
your person or your property.
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But what if there
isn't probable cause?
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Then any evidence
discovered by that search
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is considered "fruit
of the poisonous tree"
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and is not admissible
at the trial.
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The question here is, was
this search reasonable?
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Watch and see what you think.
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The Defendant is on
trial for murder.
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The Prosecution intends to introduce
certain inculpatory statements
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as well as physical
evidence at the trial.
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The Defendant moves to
suppress that evidence,
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alleging that the police misconduct
violated his constitutional rights.
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Mr. Bakman, note your
appearance, please.
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Good morning, Your Honor.
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Larry Bakman on behalf of the
People of the State of New York.
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-Thank you.
-Good morning, Your Honor.
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For the Defendant, Leonardo
Turriago, I'm Dan Mentzer.
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Thank you. Mr. Bakman, call
your first witness, please.
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Your Honor, the People
call Trooper O'Leary.
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-Would you swear the witness, please?
-Yes.
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Raise your hand, please. Do you swear to
tell the truth in these matters today?
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-I do.
-Thank you. Have a seat.
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You may inquire.
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Trooper O'Leary, can you tell the
court your profession or occupation?
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I'm a State Trooper for
the state of New York.
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And turning your attention to
the night of November 20th.
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-Were you working that evening?
-Yes, I was.
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Were you alone or
were you with a partner?
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I was working with my partner, New
York State Trooper James Van Cura.
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And what was your
assignment that evening?
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We were on routine patrol,
but we do also enforce
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the state's environmental
conservation laws,
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especially during
hunting season.
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And November 20th, is that the
start of their season, sir?
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Yes.
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So, on November 20th,
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are you focused on looking for
particular types of vehicles
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because of the start
of deer season?
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Yes, we are. Uh, box
trucks, larger trucks, vans.
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Vehicles that will
hold larger animals.
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And November 20th, did that date
hold a certain significance for you?
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-Yes, it did.
-Why is that?
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We pulled
over a box truck
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driving at approximately 70
miles per hour on Route 17.
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The van was driving at 70 miles
per hour. What is the speed limit?
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The speed limit on that stretch of
the highway is 55 miles per hour.
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Thank you.
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And so, did you conduct
an enforcement stop?
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-We did.
-When you conducted that enforcement stop,
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did you make contact
with the driver?
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Yes, I did.
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-Is the driver present in court?
-Yes, he is.
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Would you point him out, please?
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Indicating the Defendant.
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And when you made
contact with the driver,
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did you have a conversation
with him at the driver's window?
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Yes, I did.
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And did you ask him any
particular questions,
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such as asking for his
identification and registration?
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Yes, I did. The driver
provided me with a driver's license,
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and he also provided me with the
rental agreement for the box truck.
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And after you were provided
with the identification,
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did you ask you ask
the driver anything?
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Well, I informed him that it was
the second day of hunting season,
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and I simply asked him
if he would allow us
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to take a look in the
back of the vehicle.
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-And his answer was?
-Sure.
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Was that the word
he used, "sure"?
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Yes, he did use the word "sure."
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Okay.
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And did you ask him to
step out of the vehicle?
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I did, yes.
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Did he voluntarily
step out of the vehicle?
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Yes, he did.
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And when he
stepped out of the vehicle,
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what did you then ask
him to do, if anything?
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I patted down his pockets
to ensure he had no weapons
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in the interest of
officer safety, of course.
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And when you asked
him to pat him down,
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what was his response?
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He said, sure, no problem.
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And at that point
in time, did you then proceed
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to the back of the truck
with the Defendant?
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I did not. My partner
Trooper Van Cura
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proceeded to the back of the
truck with the Defendant.
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I stayed up front and spoke
with the other passengers.
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There were two other
passengers with the Defendant.
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And so, Van Cura actually traded
places with you, is that correct?
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That is correct.
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And did you observe Van Cura make
entry into the cargo area of the truck?
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-Yes, I did.
-And at some point in time later,
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did you observe the Defendant
running from the truck?
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Yes, I did.
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Was an arrest
made of the Defendant?
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Yes.
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And did you understand
that a body had been found?
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Yes, a deceased
body was found in a trunk
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in the back of the box
truck, at which time
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the Defendant and two other
individuals were arrested for murder.
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-No further questions.
-Mr. Mentzer.
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Thank you, Your Honor. I want to
make sure I have this correct.
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In the early morning
hours of November 20th,
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you and your partner
were on routine patrol
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in Orange County,
New York, right?
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That is correct.
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You pulled over my
client, Leonardo Turriago, correct?
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Correct.
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You asked Mr. Turriago for his
driver's license and his registration.
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-Correct.
-License appeared in order.
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Nothing illegal from what
you could see at that time.
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It appeared to be
at that time, yes.
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So, every question
you had asked, he answered.
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Yes.
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And everything seemed
to be legal, right?
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Everything seemed to be
legal at the time, yes.
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-He was not evasive with you?
-Not evasive.
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-He was cooperative with you?
-Indeed.
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And it appeared to you at that
time that no criminal activity
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from what you could see had been engaged
by my client or the passengers, right?
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At that time, we had no idea.
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So, you told us on
direct examination
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something about hunting
regulations, right?
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Yes.
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Well, you have participated in
other enforcement activities
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with the Department of
Environmental Conservation, right?
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Yes.
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Where you stop cars with the Department
of Environmental Conservation,
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and you ask the drivers whether they
wouldn't mind if you searched, right?
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Yes.
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This wasn't that
type of an operation, was it?
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No, it was not. But we are
always on the look out...
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No, you've answered the question. It
was not that type of an operation.
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Because the Department of
Environmental Conservation
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wasn't with you
that night, right?
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They were not, no.
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So, that wasn't the type of protocol
that you were doing that night.
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Besides, let's be honest, there
was nothing about these guys
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that indicated to you that they
could've been hunters, was there?
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No.
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They weren't dressed in
hunting gear were they?
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-No.
-There were no rifles,
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bullets, blood, anywhere in the cab
area of that car that you saw, right?
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True, correct.
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So, there was no evidence to believe
that they were hunters at all,
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let alone illegal hunters?
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Correct.
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What you really wanted
was to search that van
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after you saw these
three Hispanic men
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from New York City
driving up in your area.
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Whether or not they were Hispanic
has no bearing on anything, actually.
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But you know that you need
to have a valid legal reason
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to search the car, correct?
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We asked his permission to search
the back of the vehicle, sir.
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You mind if we look in the back?
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And it is your testimony to this
court that this man right here,
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who ultimately had a
dead body in the back,
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told you no problem, when
you asked him to search.
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That is exactly what he said.
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We were surprised ourselves,
to be honest with you.
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You don't have any video evidence of
him consenting to the search, do you?
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No.
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It is just your word that when
you asked Leonardo Turriago,
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a man trying to dispose of a dead
body in the back of that truck,
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whether you can search
the back of that truck,
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he said, "Sure, no problem."
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That is exactly what he said.
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Thank you, Officer.
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Thank you very
much. You're excused.
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Before we get
back to the trial,
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I'm going to call a
bit of a time out.
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I think it's important to
understand the stakes here.
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If Turriago's motion to suppress the
evidence from the search is upheld,
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he will likely go free.
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Because everything the police found
would be fruit of the poisonous tree,
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as we've discussed.
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That also includes
the confession he made
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once State Troopers took
him to the police station.
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And this is what he
confessed to doing.
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That's two kilos, like usual.
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Looks a little light to me.
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No?
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You believe this guy?
246
00:12:37,174 --> 00:12:40,469
You don't like the count,
you can leave with nothing.
247
00:12:40,552 --> 00:12:41,720
Your choice.
248
00:12:41,803 --> 00:12:43,555
Calm down, calm down.
249
00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:45,849
I'm not questioning the weight.
250
00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:48,768
I'm just saying you're
cutting this too much.
251
00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:51,980
My customers are complaining.
252
00:12:52,063 --> 00:12:56,234
Look, I gotta make a
profit, just like you.
253
00:12:56,318 --> 00:13:00,113
Yes, but you aren't
making anything
254
00:13:00,197 --> 00:13:02,240
without my guys selling
this on the street.
255
00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:06,786
So, when I say that people are
complaining, that's a problem
256
00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:08,079
for you.
257
00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:14,503
I think you might want
to rephrase that, dude.
258
00:13:15,754 --> 00:13:18,256
All right. I'm sorry.
259
00:13:19,424 --> 00:13:20,592
Call off your dog.
260
00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:23,178
I got the cash right here.
261
00:13:32,646 --> 00:13:35,398
This is
how it's gonna be.
262
00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:37,025
Believe it or not...
263
00:13:38,485 --> 00:13:39,945
this is your lucky day.
264
00:13:40,529 --> 00:13:42,906
From now on, we're partners.
265
00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:47,077
Between your supply and my guys
selling this on the street,
266
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,621
we're gonna make
a lot more money.
267
00:13:51,957 --> 00:13:53,833
And if I refuse?
268
00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:57,796
Let's see, if I decide
not to shoot you now,
269
00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:02,050
there's gonna be a lot more guns
pointed at you in the future.
270
00:14:02,133 --> 00:14:03,969
What do you think, Ed?
271
00:14:18,108 --> 00:14:20,610
I don't think this
partnership's gonna work out.
272
00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:24,447
Die!
273
00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,122
What just happened?
274
00:14:36,126 --> 00:14:39,087
We're gonna need some duct tape
275
00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:41,006
and a lot of plastic wrap.
276
00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:45,969
I call Officer Van Cura.
277
00:14:46,803 --> 00:14:47,929
You may inquire.
278
00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:51,558
Thank you. Officer, can you tell the
court your profession or occupation?
279
00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:53,560
I'm a State Trooper for
the state of New York.
280
00:14:53,643 --> 00:14:57,939
And directing your attention
to the evening of November 20th.
281
00:14:58,023 --> 00:15:01,526
Did a particular box truck catch
your attention that evening?
282
00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:02,694
Uh, yes, it did.
283
00:15:02,777 --> 00:15:05,280
And what was the
reason it caught your attention?
284
00:15:05,363 --> 00:15:06,406
It was speeding.
285
00:15:06,489 --> 00:15:11,328
And at the time of the enforcement
stop, did you hear your partner
286
00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:14,289
ask the driver to step
out of the vehicle?
287
00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:15,373
Yes, I did.
288
00:15:15,457 --> 00:15:17,751
Was it an ask,
or was it a demand?
289
00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:19,002
It was an ask.
290
00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:23,006
And did you hear your partner
ask the driver for consent
291
00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:27,052
to search inside the cargo
area of that vehicle?
292
00:15:27,135 --> 00:15:28,178
Uh, yes.
293
00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,764
And was that an
ask, or was that a demand?
294
00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:31,848
That was an ask.
295
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:34,351
That's sort of a conclusion.
Did you hear what he said?
296
00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:36,061
-Yes.
-What did he say?
297
00:15:36,144 --> 00:15:40,190
He asked him to step outside of
the vehicle. Uh, asked, not told...
298
00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,984
No, just a... He asked him
to step out of the vehicle?
299
00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:44,069
Yes, ma'am.
300
00:15:44,152 --> 00:15:46,613
Would you tell me what words
either you or your partner used
301
00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:51,117
to ask about the driver's permission
to look in the back of the truck.
302
00:15:51,201 --> 00:15:52,535
I'd like to hear those words.
303
00:15:52,619 --> 00:15:56,122
I specifically asked the driver if I
could look in the back of his vehicle.
304
00:15:56,206 --> 00:15:57,457
You mind showing us
what's in the back?
305
00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,751
And he said yes.
Actually, he said "sure."
306
00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,047
Okay. Go ahead.
307
00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:06,800
And so, when you were at
the back of the vehicle,
308
00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:10,011
did you ask the Defendant
to open the truck up?
309
00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:11,137
Yes, I did.
310
00:16:11,221 --> 00:16:12,555
What did
you see inside?
311
00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,766
I saw a cardboard
box and a steamer trunk.
312
00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:16,601
Was the trunk locked?
313
00:16:16,685 --> 00:16:17,852
Yes, it was.
314
00:16:17,936 --> 00:16:20,438
Did you ask the Defendant
to open the steamer trunk?
315
00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:22,482
-Yes, I did.
-Did he open it?
316
00:16:22,565 --> 00:16:24,901
-Yes, he did.
-What did you see?
317
00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:27,154
He struggled to open the
trunk at first with his keys.
318
00:16:27,237 --> 00:16:29,823
Once he got the trunk open
and the lid popped up,
319
00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:32,284
I saw what appeared to be human
legs protruding from the trunk.
320
00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:34,577
And when
you saw that body,
321
00:16:34,661 --> 00:16:36,621
what did you see
the Defendant do?
322
00:16:36,705 --> 00:16:39,040
Once the lid popped open and
the human legs were visible,
323
00:16:39,124 --> 00:16:42,669
the Defendant ran. I then gave chase
and I apprehended the Defendant.
324
00:16:42,752 --> 00:16:44,254
Did you place
him under arrest?
325
00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,505
-Yes, sir.
-For what?
326
00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:46,923
Murder.
327
00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:50,552
And did you take the
Defendant back to the police station?
328
00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:51,720
Yes.
329
00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:55,682
At the police station, sir, did
you Mirandize the Defendant?
330
00:16:55,765 --> 00:16:56,766
Yes, I did.
331
00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:58,977
After Mirandizing
the Defendant, sir,
332
00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:01,229
did he tell you what
happened to the victim?
333
00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:03,356
-Yes, he did.
-What did he say?
334
00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,609
He said he shot the
victim in the face five times
335
00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:07,986
with a 25-caliber gun
over a drug dispute.
336
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,280
Once he realized that the victim
wasn't dead, he then took a hammer
337
00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:13,241
and struck him in the head with
it three times to finish him off.
338
00:17:13,324 --> 00:17:17,412
Two accomplices then took the body,
wrapped it in cellophane and duct tape,
339
00:17:17,494 --> 00:17:19,622
and then stuffed it
in the steamer trunk.
340
00:17:28,757 --> 00:17:31,176
Thanks for
helping with this.
341
00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,220
Leo's not going to forget it.
342
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:36,973
That's what friends do.
343
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,852
We do this quick,
344
00:17:40,935 --> 00:17:44,564
and if anyone from his crew asks,
he never showed up for the buy.
345
00:17:49,986 --> 00:17:55,575
And we're just a couple of guys
on our way to a construction job.
346
00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:02,874
Yes, here's my hammer.
347
00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:15,970
Did he tell you where you
could find the murder weapon?
348
00:18:16,763 --> 00:18:18,097
Yes, he did.
349
00:18:18,181 --> 00:18:21,476
According to Turriago's
confession, he didn't even live here.
350
00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:24,062
This was just a place used
to distribute cocaine.
351
00:18:24,145 --> 00:18:27,148
Yep. I got a white
powdery substance here.
352
00:18:27,232 --> 00:18:29,025
Maybe it spilled
during the struggle.
353
00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:32,695
Blood splatter over here consistent
with the table being overturned.
354
00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:36,741
If this matches the murder
victim and the recovered hammer,
355
00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:38,243
Turriago's done.
356
00:18:39,244 --> 00:18:43,206
We have a bullet casing. Looks
like a little 25-caliber.
357
00:18:44,332 --> 00:18:46,835
Probably why he shot
the guy so many times.
358
00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:49,963
I love it when a good
confession comes together.
359
00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:52,173
Always makes life easier.
360
00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:56,678
Well, lookie here.
361
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,517
Drinks on me, boys.
362
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:06,688
Where did he tell you
you could find the gun?
363
00:19:06,771 --> 00:19:09,107
He said he discarded the gun and
threw it in the Hudson River.
364
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:12,986
Did he give you the location
where he threw it into the Hudson?
365
00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:15,154
-Yes.
-And to your knowledge,
366
00:19:15,238 --> 00:19:17,574
-was it later recovered?
-Yes, it was.
367
00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:19,075
No further questions.
368
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,159
You may inquire.
369
00:19:20,243 --> 00:19:21,661
Thank you, Judge.
370
00:19:21,744 --> 00:19:25,206
Officer Van Cura, at about
2:00 AM on November 20th,
371
00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:28,501
you and your partner, O'Leary,
were on routine patrol?
372
00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:29,711
That's correct, yes.
373
00:19:29,794 --> 00:19:33,631
And you were parked about three quarters
of a mile from the Woodbury tollbooth?
374
00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:34,799
Yes.
375
00:19:34,883 --> 00:19:37,677
Now, you say
that this box truck
376
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,138
who had just stopped at
the Woodbury tollbooth,
377
00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:44,392
had already accelerated to the point
it was traveling 70 miles an hour
378
00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:46,227
within three quarters of a mile?
379
00:19:46,311 --> 00:19:47,604
That's the way it happened, yes.
380
00:19:47,687 --> 00:19:49,189
You're
saying that this man,
381
00:19:49,272 --> 00:19:51,691
who was driving with a
dead body in the back,
382
00:19:51,774 --> 00:19:55,194
is just tearing out of this tollbooth
right in front of you guys, right?
383
00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:56,863
Yes, that's the way it happened.
384
00:19:56,946 --> 00:20:00,074
Now, at some point, you walked
around to the back of that box truck
385
00:20:00,158 --> 00:20:02,118
-to the cargo area, correct?
-Correct.
386
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,829
And there you saw
my client Leonardo Turriago.
387
00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:06,706
-Correct.
-You asked Mr. Turriago
388
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:09,459
-to open the back of the cargo area, yes?
-Yes.
389
00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,253
He opened it up.
You saw a cardboard box
390
00:20:12,337 --> 00:20:14,714
-and a steamer trunk in the back.
-Correct.
391
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:18,092
You asked Mr. Turriago what
was in the cardboard box.
392
00:20:18,176 --> 00:20:21,554
He told you that it was some clothing
and some construction equipment.
393
00:20:21,638 --> 00:20:22,805
-Right?
-Correct.
394
00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:27,310
You ask him to open up the cargo to see
if that was true, what he had told you.
395
00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:29,604
-Correct.
-It turned out it was true.
396
00:20:29,687 --> 00:20:31,481
He had some clothing
and a hammer, right?
397
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:32,565
Correct.
398
00:20:32,649 --> 00:20:36,402
At that point, every answer
he gave you appeared to be truthful.
399
00:20:36,486 --> 00:20:37,487
Yes.
400
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:40,615
You had no reason, at that point,
to think he was lying to you.
401
00:20:40,698 --> 00:20:41,824
-Right?
-Correct.
402
00:20:41,908 --> 00:20:44,202
And at that point, you
had no reason to think
403
00:20:44,285 --> 00:20:47,246
he had been engaged in any
criminal conduct at all.
404
00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:48,373
-Right?
-Yes.
405
00:20:48,456 --> 00:20:51,626
You didn't just issue him a ticket
and send him on his way, did you?
406
00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:53,628
-No.
-You didn't run his license.
407
00:20:53,711 --> 00:20:54,796
-Right?
-Correct.
408
00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:56,839
-You kept pressing further.
-Correct.
409
00:20:56,923 --> 00:20:59,926
When you asked him to open
up that steamer trunk,
410
00:21:00,009 --> 00:21:04,555
which you later learned
had a dead body inside,
411
00:21:04,639 --> 00:21:07,892
he said, sure, no problem.
That's your testimony?
412
00:21:07,976 --> 00:21:09,435
Yes, that's what he said.
413
00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:13,690
And then, it was only after
you got back to the precinct
414
00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:15,942
after you found the dead body,
415
00:21:16,025 --> 00:21:18,987
after you arrested these
three men for murder,
416
00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:20,905
-that you ran his license.
-Correct.
417
00:21:20,989 --> 00:21:23,074
Even though you pulled
him over for speeding,
418
00:21:23,157 --> 00:21:25,577
you didn't even run his license
until he gets back to the precinct.
419
00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:27,579
-After you arrest him for murder.
-Correct.
420
00:21:27,662 --> 00:21:29,914
You don't even
issue him a speeding ticket
421
00:21:29,998 --> 00:21:32,500
-until after you found the body.
-Yes.
422
00:21:32,583 --> 00:21:34,502
You were covering your
tracks, were you not?
423
00:21:34,585 --> 00:21:37,588
-No.
-'Cause you knew you needed some reason
424
00:21:37,672 --> 00:21:40,383
to have stopped this car
in the first place, right?
425
00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:41,801
-No.
-You don't?
426
00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:43,886
We needed a reason, but
the reason was speeding.
427
00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:44,971
That was our reason.
428
00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:46,848
-Let me ask a... Just a second.
-When you...
429
00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:49,600
-When you pull a car over for speeding...
-Yes, ma'am.
430
00:21:49,684 --> 00:21:53,271
...as part of any normal
process, am I correct
431
00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:57,734
that you usually take the
license and/or registration...
432
00:21:57,817 --> 00:22:00,236
-Mm-hmm.
-...and you go back to your car.
433
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:04,157
I know my husband's been stopped
for speeding a couple of times.
434
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,076
I've never been
stopped for speeding.
435
00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:12,457
They take the license and they go
back and run a check on the license
436
00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:14,792
if you're stopped for
speeding. Correct?
437
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:15,877
Correct.
438
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,630
You had not done that, at that
point, prior to finding the body.
439
00:22:19,714 --> 00:22:21,549
-Is that correct?
-That is correct.
440
00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:26,929
So, I ask you again, up until
the time you got back to the precinct,
441
00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:29,682
nothing you did was consistent
442
00:22:29,766 --> 00:22:32,643
with an officer that pulled
someone over for speeding.
443
00:22:32,727 --> 00:22:33,770
-Correct?
-Yes.
444
00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:35,021
No further questions, Judge.
445
00:22:35,104 --> 00:22:37,690
I have a couple
of questions on redirect.
446
00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:41,194
So, based on
Mr. Mentzer's question
447
00:22:41,277 --> 00:22:44,447
about whether you knew
at some point in time
448
00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:49,327
you'd be asked about why you
obtained consent to open the truck.
449
00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:53,247
Based on that question,
Officer, let me ask you this.
450
00:22:53,331 --> 00:22:56,250
Did you manufacture probable
cause out in the field?
451
00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,419
-No.
-No further questions.
452
00:22:58,503 --> 00:23:01,631
While you didn't manufacture
probable cause out in the field,
453
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:04,550
you certainly did
manufacture probable cause
454
00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:07,678
once you got back to the precinct
after finding the body, didn't you?
455
00:23:07,762 --> 00:23:08,888
Objection, argumentative.
456
00:23:08,971 --> 00:23:10,348
It is argumentative.
457
00:23:10,431 --> 00:23:12,350
There's no suggestion,
Mr. Mentzer,
458
00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:15,311
that evidence was manufactured
back at the precinct.
459
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,313
Judge, if I might.
460
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:22,110
Mr. Bakman asked the question, did
you manufacture probable cause.
461
00:23:22,193 --> 00:23:23,402
In the field.
462
00:23:23,486 --> 00:23:25,613
How can I be deprived
of the right to ask,
463
00:23:25,696 --> 00:23:28,324
"Did you manufacture probable
cause back at the precinct?"
464
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:31,536
Because there's no probable cause
necessary back at the precinct.
465
00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:33,454
They found a dead
body in the car.
466
00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:36,707
And that's probable
cause to bring him in.
467
00:23:36,791 --> 00:23:40,878
The basis for the stop in the first
place, I'm suggesting it was pretextual.
468
00:23:40,962 --> 00:23:43,756
That they covered their tracks
when they got back to the precinct
469
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,051
and realized they had no reason
to have stopped this car.
470
00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:50,638
They ended up writing a speeding
ticket claiming he was speeding to...
471
00:23:50,721 --> 00:23:52,890
Oh, well, that's
a little complicated.
472
00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:54,851
It encompasses, did you
manufacture evidence.
473
00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:58,146
You want to ask a specific
question as to whether or not
474
00:23:58,229 --> 00:24:01,858
because they didn't have evidence,
they manufactured probable cause
475
00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:04,819
at the precinct by
issuing a speeding ticket.
476
00:24:04,902 --> 00:24:07,196
-Yes.
-I will let you ask that question.
477
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,782
But you can't ask
an overall question.
478
00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:12,243
Didn't you in fact manufacture
evidence back at the precinct?
479
00:24:12,326 --> 00:24:14,162
-Okay. Yes.
-Ask him that question.
480
00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:16,455
Once you got back
into the precinct,
481
00:24:16,539 --> 00:24:18,666
and you realized you had
to come up with a reason
482
00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:21,043
for having stopped this
van in the first place,
483
00:24:21,127 --> 00:24:24,005
that's when you manufactured
the probable cause
484
00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:26,132
by writing the speeding
ticket, didn't you?
485
00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:29,302
We did check the license at the
station, yes, not in the field.
486
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:30,386
Thank you.
487
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,930
Okay. Witness is excused.
Thank you very much.
488
00:24:33,431 --> 00:24:35,016
-People rest.
-People rest.
489
00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:36,309
Mr. Mentzer.
490
00:24:36,392 --> 00:24:40,396
If I might, the Defense
calls Leonardo Turriago.
491
00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,151
Raise your right hand, please.
492
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:46,903
Do you swear to tell the
truth in these matters today?
493
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,654
-I do.
-Have a seat.
494
00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:50,781
-You may inquire, sir.
-Thank you, Your Honor.
495
00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:55,995
Now, I want to call your attention to
November 20th at approximately 2:00 AM.
496
00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:58,289
Where were you on that
date at that time?
497
00:24:58,372 --> 00:25:01,667
I was driving to
Binghamton in a rental van.
498
00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:04,337
Why were you driving up to
Binghamton that night, Leonardo?
499
00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:09,634
We were trying to dispose of a dead
body that was in the back of the truck.
500
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:11,386
Did anything
unusual happen to you
501
00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:13,763
while you were driving up
toward Binghamton that night?
502
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:17,183
Yes. We were stopped by the
police after leaving a tollbooth.
503
00:25:17,266 --> 00:25:20,645
Before being stopped
by the police, were you speeding?
504
00:25:20,728 --> 00:25:22,647
No, we had just
left the tollbooth.
505
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:24,523
Is there
any other reason why
506
00:25:24,607 --> 00:25:27,652
you were not going over the speed
limit that particular night?
507
00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:30,655
Well, we had a dead body
in the back of the van.
508
00:25:30,738 --> 00:25:33,032
Now, when the
Trooper pulled you over,
509
00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:35,993
did the Trooper ask you for your
driver's license that night?
510
00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:39,580
Yes, I gave him my
driver's license and rental agreement.
511
00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:42,750
What did the Trooper do
when you handed him your license
512
00:25:42,833 --> 00:25:45,169
and the rental agreement
for that rented box truck?
513
00:25:45,253 --> 00:25:47,588
He looked at them. He
gave 'em back to me.
514
00:25:47,672 --> 00:25:50,174
And then, he told me
to get out of the car.
515
00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:52,760
-And what did he do next?
-He searched me.
516
00:25:52,843 --> 00:25:55,221
Then he asked me what was
in the back of the truck.
517
00:25:55,304 --> 00:25:56,973
What did you tell that Trooper?
518
00:25:57,056 --> 00:26:00,810
I told him that I had
construction equipment in the back
519
00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:03,271
because of a job I was
doing for my father.
520
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:08,150
What did the Trooper do when you said you
had construction equipment in the back?
521
00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,944
He told
me to open it up.
522
00:26:10,027 --> 00:26:13,447
Did he ask you for permission to
open up the back of this truck
523
00:26:13,531 --> 00:26:17,243
before you did so, or did he
tell you to open up the back?
524
00:26:17,326 --> 00:26:18,995
No, he
told me to open it up.
525
00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:22,290
Show us what's in the back of the truck
or everyone's going to jail right now.
526
00:26:22,373 --> 00:26:23,708
-Did you?
-Yes.
527
00:26:23,791 --> 00:26:27,128
Now, these were armed uniformed
New York State police officers?
528
00:26:27,211 --> 00:26:28,212
That is right.
529
00:26:28,296 --> 00:26:30,465
Did you feel you
had to do what they told you?
530
00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:31,590
Yes.
531
00:26:31,674 --> 00:26:34,802
Did he ever ask for your
consent to open up this trunk
532
00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:37,972
-that you knew had a dead body in it?
-No.
533
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,435
Damn it, open the trunk!
534
00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,895
Did you feel like you had
any choice other than to do
535
00:26:44,979 --> 00:26:49,400
exactly as these uniformed armed
police officers told you to do?
536
00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:52,069
No. I knew I had to do
what he told me to do.
537
00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:53,988
Thank you, Leonardo. I
have no further questions.
538
00:26:54,071 --> 00:26:55,156
Any other questions?
539
00:26:55,239 --> 00:26:58,034
Oh, yes. So, Mr. Turriago,
540
00:26:58,117 --> 00:27:00,786
let me see if I have
your story straight, sir.
541
00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:05,499
On the night of November 20th,
you're driving to Binghamton,
542
00:27:05,583 --> 00:27:09,086
and you've got a dead body in the back
of the truck you've rented, correct?
543
00:27:09,170 --> 00:27:10,171
Yes.
544
00:27:10,254 --> 00:27:14,508
And lo and behold, you get
stopped by State Troopers
545
00:27:14,592 --> 00:27:15,885
on the way to Binghamton.
546
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,303
-Correct?
-Yes.
547
00:27:17,386 --> 00:27:20,181
And you think you're a
pretty smart guy, don't you?
548
00:27:20,264 --> 00:27:21,265
Yes.
549
00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:25,311
And you thought that you
would outsmart the officers
550
00:27:25,394 --> 00:27:28,356
by playing Mr. Cooperative
that night.
551
00:27:28,439 --> 00:27:29,774
-Correct?
-Yes.
552
00:27:29,857 --> 00:27:34,987
And so, in order to avert
suspicion on yourself, sir,
553
00:27:35,071 --> 00:27:36,781
and your accomplices,
554
00:27:36,864 --> 00:27:39,784
you decided,
anything they ask me,
555
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,787
I'm gonna cooperate,
I'm going to say yes.
556
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,289
-No.
-So, the first thing they asked you
557
00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:48,501
-was identification. Correct?
-Yes.
558
00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:52,630
And you knew when you gave
them the license, Mr. Turriago,
559
00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:56,217
-that it was suspended. Correct, sir?
-Yes.
560
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,804
But you didn't tell them
that. You were deceptive with them.
561
00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:01,305
-Correct?
-Yes.
562
00:28:01,389 --> 00:28:05,184
And then, they ask you voluntarily
to step out of the truck.
563
00:28:05,267 --> 00:28:07,978
-Correct?
-No, they told me to.
564
00:28:08,062 --> 00:28:12,358
And we have only your word to believe
it when you say, they told me.
565
00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:14,527
-Is that right, sir?
-Yes.
566
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:19,156
Then, they asked you for
consent to conduct a pat down.
567
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,784
-Yes?
-No, they just patted me down.
568
00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:24,703
And then, they asked
you for consent
569
00:28:24,787 --> 00:28:30,000
to open up the back of the truck
in order to search. Correct?
570
00:28:30,084 --> 00:28:32,586
No. He told me to open it up.
571
00:28:33,087 --> 00:28:35,548
And once again, we have
to believe your version.
572
00:28:35,631 --> 00:28:36,841
-Objection.
-Correct?
573
00:28:36,924 --> 00:28:39,260
I don't have to do anything.
That's his version.
574
00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:42,346
So, the back of the
truck is opened up?
575
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:43,764
-Yes?
-Yes.
576
00:28:43,848 --> 00:28:47,476
They open up the cardboard
box with your permission.
577
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,727
-Correct?
-No.
578
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:51,313
They open up the steamer
trunk with your permission.
579
00:28:51,397 --> 00:28:52,648
-Correct?
-No.
580
00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,358
When the
steamer trunk opened,
581
00:28:54,442 --> 00:28:57,153
you took off out of the back
of the truck. Correct, sir?
582
00:28:57,236 --> 00:28:59,864
-Yes.
-You knew what was in the trunk,
583
00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:01,073
-Correct?
-Yes.
584
00:29:01,157 --> 00:29:04,368
And at the station, you were
Mirandized by police, yes?
585
00:29:04,452 --> 00:29:05,536
Yes.
586
00:29:05,619 --> 00:29:07,746
You gave them a
full confession, did you not?
587
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,249
-Yes.
-You told them
588
00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:13,210
that you had a drug dispute
with the victim. Correct, sir?
589
00:29:13,294 --> 00:29:14,795
That is correct.
590
00:29:14,879 --> 00:29:19,967
So, you told the officer,
sir, that you shot the victim
591
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:25,306
point blank in the face
with a 25-caliber handgun.
592
00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:28,142
Not once, but five times. Yes?
593
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:31,103
-Yes.
-And he didn't die, did he?
594
00:29:31,187 --> 00:29:32,354
No.
595
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:34,523
But you wanted to make
sure of his death,
596
00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:38,903
so you hit him three times over
the head with a steel hammer.
597
00:29:38,986 --> 00:29:40,446
-Correct?
-Yes.
598
00:29:40,529 --> 00:29:45,659
So, Mr. Turriago, based on
what you told the officers
599
00:29:45,743 --> 00:29:49,955
with regards to this killing,
as I understand it, sir,
600
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,501
you're a killer, but
you're not a liar, are you?
601
00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:58,589
That's correct.
602
00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:01,175
No further questions.
603
00:30:01,258 --> 00:30:02,968
Okay, witness is excused.
604
00:30:07,431 --> 00:30:09,266
Any other witnesses,
Mr. Mentzer?
605
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:11,018
No, the Defense rests.
606
00:30:11,101 --> 00:30:13,562
Mr. Mentzer, do you wish to
make a closing argument, sir?
607
00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:15,356
Yes, Your
Honor. Thank you.
608
00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,901
Your Honor, the search of
my client's rented box truck
609
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:23,572
by New York State Troopers that
resulted in them finding a dead body,
610
00:30:23,656 --> 00:30:25,908
and getting a statement
from my client,
611
00:30:25,991 --> 00:30:30,496
and arresting my client and two
other people for murder, was illegal.
612
00:30:30,579 --> 00:30:32,623
The Troopers who
searched that van
613
00:30:32,706 --> 00:30:36,210
had absolutely no reason
to believe, at that point,
614
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:38,879
that my client was engaged
in any criminal conduct.
615
00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:43,300
So, what is the reason they give
you for why they searched this car?
616
00:30:43,384 --> 00:30:45,761
The oldest one in
the book, consent.
617
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:50,599
They have absolutely no written proof
of it, they have no video proof of it.
618
00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:52,893
But they claim that my client,
619
00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:55,479
who has a dead body in
the back of this van,
620
00:30:55,563 --> 00:30:58,941
just willingly agreed,
freely and voluntarily,
621
00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:02,903
for these officers to search the
back of his van. It's ridiculous.
622
00:31:02,987 --> 00:31:05,364
However, it just doesn't matter.
623
00:31:05,447 --> 00:31:08,409
It doesn't matter
because, fortunately,
624
00:31:08,492 --> 00:31:12,121
our Fourth Amendment rights give
us all the right to privacy.
625
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:16,875
That is the right to be free from
unreasonable searches and seizures.
626
00:31:16,959 --> 00:31:21,630
And it applies to men like Leonardo
Turriago, charged with murder,
627
00:31:21,714 --> 00:31:24,508
and it also applies
to innocent people
628
00:31:24,592 --> 00:31:28,304
who are driving on our
highways who get pulled over
629
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:32,600
simply because of the color of
their skin or their ethnicity.
630
00:31:32,683 --> 00:31:35,352
Because that's exactly
what happened here.
631
00:31:35,436 --> 00:31:37,521
Thank you. Mr. Bakman?
632
00:31:37,605 --> 00:31:41,066
Thank you, Your Honor.
So, kudos to Mr. Mentzer.
633
00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:45,029
He certainly gets an "A for
effort." But unfortunately for him,
634
00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:48,073
the state of the law
doesn't favor his case.
635
00:31:48,157 --> 00:31:53,662
This motion is easily decided.
The evidence from both officers,
636
00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:58,751
this vehicle was doing 70 miles an
hour in a 55 mile per hour zone.
637
00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:03,380
That is PC to conduct
an enforcement stop.
638
00:32:03,464 --> 00:32:06,050
The second issue is consent.
639
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:11,263
Now, Mr. Mentzer wants you to
again believe in his client,
640
00:32:11,347 --> 00:32:16,352
that consent was not given. You
heard both officers say, "I asked."
641
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:19,730
And lo and behold,
they get consent.
642
00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:23,609
Probable cause exists,
consent was given.
643
00:32:23,692 --> 00:32:29,406
This was a legal search.
And the rest in this case
644
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:32,368
and the motion to
suppress should be denied.
645
00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:33,786
Thank you.
646
00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:37,456
We will now take a brief recess,
and I will return with my verdict.
647
00:32:41,085 --> 00:32:42,753
Court, come to order.
648
00:32:42,836 --> 00:32:45,339
The Honorable Judge Judy
Sheindlin presiding.
649
00:32:45,422 --> 00:32:46,632
Thank you.
650
00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:49,051
I will now render my
decision in this matter.
651
00:32:50,094 --> 00:32:55,391
This court has had the unique opportunity
to evaluate the testimony of each witness
652
00:32:55,474 --> 00:32:59,478
and makes the following findings
of fact and conclusions of law.
653
00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:03,023
The Troopers had every right to
stop Mr. Turriago for speeding.
654
00:33:03,107 --> 00:33:07,027
They also had a legitimate
basis to be suspicious,
655
00:33:07,111 --> 00:33:09,571
based upon the onset
of hunting season,
656
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:13,951
the nature of the vehicle, the
speed of the vehicle, and the hour.
657
00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:17,204
They were justified in
asking for a consent search.
658
00:33:17,287 --> 00:33:21,667
The Defendant voluntarily gave
that consent to the Troopers
659
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:23,460
to search the cargo area.
660
00:33:23,544 --> 00:33:27,005
The body of the victim was
discovered during a lawful search,
661
00:33:27,089 --> 00:33:32,136
and all other evidence following
therefrom must be admitted.
662
00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:34,388
The motions to
suppress are denied.
663
00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:41,812
After the evidence was allowed to
be considered at Turriago's trial,
664
00:33:41,895 --> 00:33:43,605
he was found guilty of murder.
665
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:47,109
But he appealed claiming that
his Fourth Amendment rights
666
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:49,737
were violated by
an unlawful search.
667
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:53,866
This time, the Appeals Court
found in favor of Turriago.
668
00:33:53,949 --> 00:33:57,911
And the case was ordered returned
to the lower court for a retrial.
669
00:33:57,995 --> 00:34:00,497
However, at that retrial,
670
00:34:00,581 --> 00:34:03,876
the Prosecutors wouldn't be
allowed to use any evidence
671
00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:08,714
of the dead body, the
gun, or the confession,
672
00:34:08,797 --> 00:34:14,261
because all these were fruits
of the poisonous illegal search.
673
00:34:14,344 --> 00:34:19,891
A confessed killer was almost
certainly going to be set free.
674
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:22,728
But the state of New
York wasn't done.
675
00:34:23,937 --> 00:34:27,357
Citizens joined Prosecutors
to protest the decision,
676
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,569
and the case was appealed
to yet another high court.
677
00:34:30,652 --> 00:34:34,822
This time, they introduced
a different legal concept
678
00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:38,494
called the doctrine of
"inevitable discovery."
679
00:34:38,577 --> 00:34:42,246
That rule holds that if
through normal police work,
680
00:34:42,331 --> 00:34:47,252
the evidence would have eventually
been discovered, it is admissible,
681
00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:51,340
even if it was originally the
product of an illegal search.
682
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,635
Counsel, note your appearance.
683
00:34:54,717 --> 00:34:57,805
Good morning, Your Honors. Larry
Bakman on behalf of the Appellant,
684
00:34:57,888 --> 00:34:59,848
the People of the
State of New York.
685
00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:01,934
Good morning, everybody.
Daniel Mentzer
686
00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:04,728
on behalf of Leonardo
Turriago, the Respondent.
687
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:07,189
At this time, we'll take
opening arguments from counsel.
688
00:35:07,272 --> 00:35:09,066
Mr. Bakman, would
you like to proceed?
689
00:35:09,149 --> 00:35:10,943
-I would, Your Honor.
-Thank you.
690
00:35:11,026 --> 00:35:14,863
As set forth in the
People's Appellate brief,
691
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:19,827
the issues that I foresee this
court dealing with are as follows:
692
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:25,624
One, was there voluntary consent given
by the Defendant out in the field?
693
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:31,630
Two, that this traffic stop was
the product of racial profiling.
694
00:35:31,713 --> 00:35:35,217
Three, is the
Defendant in this case
695
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:39,221
entitled to the application
of the law that states
696
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:43,350
there must be a founded
suspicion of criminal activity
697
00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:46,186
in order for the police
to ask for consent.
698
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:49,523
The People's position
is absolutely not.
699
00:35:49,606 --> 00:35:54,069
It's the People's position that
all of those arguments are mooted.
700
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:58,198
They're nullified by the
doctrine of inevitable discovery.
701
00:35:58,282 --> 00:36:03,120
Because if you take away
consent, then out in the field,
702
00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:07,708
the police would
have run the driver
703
00:36:07,791 --> 00:36:10,335
to see if he had a valid
operator's license.
704
00:36:10,419 --> 00:36:12,462
And within a minute or
two, it would've come back
705
00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:15,424
that the Defendant's
license was suspended.
706
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:18,677
The Defendant would've
been most likely arrested.
707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,389
The car would've been impounded, and
there would've been an inventory search.
708
00:36:22,472 --> 00:36:27,769
Once the inventory search occurred,
the body would've been found.
709
00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:29,605
The hammer would've been found.
710
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:33,859
And all of the reasons that the
Intermediate Appellate Division found
711
00:36:33,942 --> 00:36:37,613
to justify suppression
are taken away.
712
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:41,491
We submit that this Court
should look at that doctrine
713
00:36:41,575 --> 00:36:46,038
and find that it applies
and reinstate the conviction
714
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:48,165
in this case. Thank you.
715
00:36:48,749 --> 00:36:50,918
Thank you, Mr. Bakman.
Mr. Mentzer. I ask you
716
00:36:51,001 --> 00:36:53,545
if you'd like an opportunity
to make a statement, as well?
717
00:36:53,629 --> 00:36:55,130
Thank you, Your Honor, I would.
718
00:36:56,298 --> 00:36:59,259
The facts in this case, the
relevant facts in this case,
719
00:36:59,343 --> 00:37:00,969
are really not in dispute.
720
00:37:01,053 --> 00:37:06,558
Two New York State Troopers pull over a
van that had three Hispanic men in it.
721
00:37:06,642 --> 00:37:09,227
They ask for information
from those men.
722
00:37:09,311 --> 00:37:12,064
They gave it to 'em.
Completely cooperative.
723
00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:15,984
So, the Troopers had no reason to believe
they had conducted or been engaged
724
00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:19,613
in any criminal conduct at all, but
they still conducted the search.
725
00:37:19,696 --> 00:37:23,241
The Appellate Division correctly
found that that was the application
726
00:37:23,325 --> 00:37:26,078
of the facts to the law,
and they suppressed.
727
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:29,831
So, why are the People
continuing to appeal this case?
728
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:32,751
Well, we know the reason.
Because if you apply the law
729
00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:35,671
as the Appellate Division
did to these facts,
730
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:40,175
that means that evidence of a
murder, evidence of drug dealing,
731
00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:42,386
is suppressed against my client.
732
00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:45,555
And when this case goes
back for a new trial,
733
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:48,684
the Prosecution will not be able
to use that evidence against him.
734
00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:50,560
And the possibility exists
735
00:37:50,644 --> 00:37:54,064
that someone who has confessed
to a homicide might walk.
736
00:37:54,147 --> 00:37:59,611
That's the problem here. But the problem
that you face is not so significant.
737
00:37:59,695 --> 00:38:03,865
Because you know that
if you allow the police
738
00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:07,369
to do what they did in this case,
search three Hispanic men's car
739
00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:10,747
simply because of the
color of their skin.
740
00:38:10,831 --> 00:38:13,500
That means, that you're
basically telling the police,
741
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:16,420
search anyone you want. And
guess who gets searched?
742
00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:18,922
Innocent people who've
done nothing wrong
743
00:38:19,006 --> 00:38:22,092
for the color of their skin,
get humiliated, get harassed,
744
00:38:22,175 --> 00:38:23,802
get dragged out of their cars,
745
00:38:23,885 --> 00:38:26,596
and have their cars and
their property searched.
746
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,183
This is where our rights
pursuant to the Fourth Amendment
747
00:38:30,267 --> 00:38:32,477
against unreasonable
search and seizures.
748
00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:35,105
It begins right here,
not on the streets.
749
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:39,234
And I ask you to uphold the
decision of the Appellate Division.
750
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:41,778
-Thank you.
-Thank you, Mr. Mentzer.
751
00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:43,238
We're gonna retire
to deliberate.
752
00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,495
We have
reached a unanimous verdict.
753
00:38:50,579 --> 00:38:55,375
Mr. Turriago murdered Fernando
Cuervo by shooting him in the face,
754
00:38:55,459 --> 00:38:57,544
striking him in the
head with a hammer,
755
00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:01,173
and then stuffing his dead
body in a steamer trunk.
756
00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:05,010
On appeal, Defendant does
not contest the sufficiency
757
00:39:05,093 --> 00:39:08,930
of the overwhelming evidence
supporting his conviction.
758
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,516
He did, in fact,
murder Mr. Cuervo.
759
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,603
There is no reason to address
whether police possessed
760
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:17,105
a founded suspicion
of criminality
761
00:39:17,189 --> 00:39:20,650
prior to requesting permission
to search Defendant's vehicle.
762
00:39:20,734 --> 00:39:23,653
Instead, it is the
opinion of this court
763
00:39:23,737 --> 00:39:27,699
that the discovery of
Mr. Cuervo's body was inevitable,
764
00:39:27,783 --> 00:39:30,952
and therefore not
subject to suppression.
765
00:39:31,036 --> 00:39:35,665
Accordingly, the conviction is
affirmed. Thank you, gentlemen.
59807
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