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[peaceful music]
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[waves crashing]
[birds squawking]
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[tense music]
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[waves lapping]
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[bird squawks]
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[bird squawks]
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[distant gun fire]
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- [Dan] I've not comeacross anything since
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that scares me anywhere
near as much
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as what happened in Tunisia.
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[distant gun fires]
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- [Shelley] It's definitelycompletely changed my character.
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I feel very nervousabout everything now
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because you never knowwhat's gonna happen.
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[distant gun fires]
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- [Colin] You never thinkit's gonna happen to you.
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It's these moments inlife that completely
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turn everything upside down.
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And we thought we were going to die.
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[waves crashing]
[tense music continues]
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[distant birds squawking]
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[birds squawking]
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So,
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these are
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some little stones,
some little pebbles.
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{\an8}Just some memories, really,
that I keep in a trinket box.
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Really goes back to my childhood with
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my mum taking me and my sisters
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and my brother down
to our local beach
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where I would be looking for
what I would call magic stones.
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You can see like
little crystals inside.
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It just reminds me of
my daughter Krystal.
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And you know, even today
we're really close.
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This key ring was given to us
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when we first went to Tunisia.
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So whenever we travelled,
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{\an8}we always put our hotel key
on this key ring.
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And I didn't realize what
significant religious
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and spiritual beliefs that this has.
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It's an Islamic Hamza,
which is the hand of Fatima.
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She was a protector of people
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and we feel safe and protected,
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and spiritually, we are
both attached to this.
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- This is the Queen's
Commendation for Bravery.
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{\an8}Yeah. That was from Her Majesty.
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{\an8}Along with that came this.
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A certificate presented to me
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for what happened on that day.
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I don't see myself as a hero.
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I think the heroes are the victims
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and survivors of this incident
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or any such incidents,
that carry on with their lives.
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I just went back and tried to help.
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[waves crashing]
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[brooding music]
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I just love to go on holiday.
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Go to the beach,
the sounds of the waves.
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I'd been to Tunisia the year
before with Dave, my husband,
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and we had such a lovely time,
and we got a good tan.
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We had fun.
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So, yeah, when the next year came,
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and Krystal had said she
didn't want a birthday party
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for her 18th birthday,
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she said she would
rather have a holiday.
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- And I'd seen the photos
and was quite jealous.
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I had just completed
my A Levels.
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I was 17.
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Was really excited to
be finishing school.
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{\an8}I hadn't been on a holiday
that's that, you know,
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{\an8}five star luxury experience
of eat as much as you like,
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{\an8}drink as much as you like,
I know I was 17,
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but the idea was that in Tunisia
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we could be adults and
have a really good time.
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- [Sharon] And this time, she said,could we take her friend Chelsea?
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That's how we came to go to Tunisia.
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[gentle piano music]
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- I was on one
particular path in life,
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working in a warehouse
as a forklift operator.
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And I was going on holiday
with my then fiancée.
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We'd been together just under
two years, at that point.
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It was a chance to get away
from day-to-day life goings
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and just be on holiday and relax.
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{\an8}Tunisia was down to the weather.
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{\an8}My grandparents had been in the past
and said it was a lovely country.
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I guess that hotel just came down to
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one of the ones that made the list.
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All inclusive, close to the beach,
not too far from the airport.
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The kind of things you
look for when you go away.
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{\an8}- It was coming up
to my 25th birthday.
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So, we wanted to do something nice.
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{\an8}We'd been together for
around four years, I believe.
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- Me and Shelley getting
ourselves on our feet.
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Just moved into our
first rented property,
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{\an8}and just working at the time,
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{\an8}and just trying to save
some money for our kitty
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and to hopefully book somewhere
nice to go on holiday.
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We came up with Tunisia,
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because it was a cheap
option at the time.
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It was a really lovely
place to go on holiday,
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so we decided to go there.
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All the reviews seemed pretty good.
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The hotel looked really nice.
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So yeah, I didn't
really need much more
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persuading than that, really.
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[somber music]
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It was an impromptu holiday.
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We weren't supposed to be going.
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I think it was between
Tunisia and Egypt.
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One of our friends
had recommended going,
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{\an8}but it wasn't really up to
me anyway, I was only 15.
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{\an8}So it was my mum and stepdad's
decision, ultimately.
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But since our friend had
recommended it, we thought, okay.
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And she had told us
everything is so safe.
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There's like security guards.
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'Cause I was always
a panicker, anyway.
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So that was in the back of
my mind since the attack
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at the Bardo museum had happened.
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[somber music continues]
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I've always been a worrier.
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So I even went into the
travel agency and asked them.
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I was like, "How safe is it?
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This has just happened
not too long ago.
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Are you sure the right
precautions are in place?"
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I was assured, "If an
attack happened in London,
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would you go to Skegness?"
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And I was like,
"Yeah, that makes sense."
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'Cause I was determined to
not be anxious. [chuckles]
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It was gonna be the holiday
where I get my life back,
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where I try and stop
being as anxious.
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[gentle piano music]
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[plane engines roaring]
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[tires screeching]
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- Got to Tunisia,
everything was fine.
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Arrived. Weather was lovely.
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Straight to the hotel.
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{\an8}It was a nice arrival,
nice and simple, check in,
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{\an8}and straight to, um,
straight to the bar.
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[gentle music continues]
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The hotel was really grand.
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So when we pulled up,
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{\an8}we were like, "Yes, this is nice.
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{\an8}We're gonna enjoy this."
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- It was the biggest hotel
I've ever seen in my life.
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It was extraordinary. It was massive.
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{\an8}Everything was marble and beautiful.
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Just amazing, really.
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[gentle piano music continues]
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My wife Tracy and I,
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who had been there,
the two previous years.
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The rooms were clean and tidy.
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{\an8}The food was good.
The service was good.
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It was a lovely place
and it was a happy place.
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We felt safe and comfortable there.
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[brooding music]
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{\an8}- It was just such a lovely
hotel. We were so impressed.
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{\an8}It was just such a lovely place.
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The room was overlooking the beach.
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So yeah, it looked fantastic.
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And then walking down there,
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you kind of walked
through the pool area
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and then it was a lovely
walk up to the beach then.
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So yeah, I remember walking
there for the first time.
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And there was lovely palm trees
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and just a really lovely set up.
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It was really nice.
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It was just the nicest hotel.
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The beach with all the
activities on the beach,
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and the pool was superb
and the food was great,
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and it was just a really good hotel.
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We were coming towards
the end of the holiday
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{\an8}and nothing seemed different
to any other holiday
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{\an8}we'd had at that hotel.
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[distant man singing in foreign
language]
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- We had previously visited
Tunisia on a couple of occasions
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{\an8}and had no problems at all.
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{\an8}Found the people fantastic.
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[distant man singing in foreign
language]
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But once you get outside
the complex of the hotel,
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you can see the
diversity in the country.
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There is, for us travelers,
where we can have everything.
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And then no more than a mile
from the hotel, you can see
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there's a lot of people that
don't have a lot at all.
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There's an area on the map
now that was a red area
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and it wasn't safe for
tourists to travel.
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So, that was a little
bit of a sign to me
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that I didn't really realize that,
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that the country had some problems.
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[cat meows]
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[waves lapping]
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[ominous music]
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We had already planned that Friday.
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Me and Dave would go to the beach.
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And the girls didn't
wanna go to the beach.
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They didn't wanna get sand on,
when they're sunbathing,
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on their suntan cream.
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{\an8}I hate the beach. [chuckles]
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{\an8}Sorry, but I do. I
don't like the sand.
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{\an8}I don't like the sea.
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{\an8}I've never enjoyed beaches.
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So we played darts
one day, volleyball.
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I'm not a sporty person, but I
really wanted to play volleyball,
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because it's what you do.
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You get involved in all of
the activities on holiday.
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[birds chirping]
[ominous music continues]
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- I just wanted to
sunbathe and read my book.
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And so we walked,
found a couple of sunbeds,
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and I said to Dave, "Oh, what
about those ones over there?"
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He said, "No, no,
there's some over here,
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and you can watch
us play volleyball."
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Which was good, because
no one was really
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in my line of sight.
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[distant people cheering and
laughing]
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So yeah, that was quite
fun watching them,
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while I was just relaxing.
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- Had a really fun time
playing volleyball.
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It was really hot.
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I was a bit hot and
bothered, but it was still
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really, really fun
throwing the ball around,
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playing with Chelsea and my stepdad.
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And the game had
finished, but we thought,
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let's go back to the
bar, grab Mum a wine,
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I'll get a drink, we can cool down
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and then just chill for
the rest of the day.
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- Most people just in
front of me on the beach,
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were just sleeping,
you know, just relaxing.
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There wasn't really any noise.
It was just really quiet.
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[dark music]
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I was on the far right.
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So, if you come out of the hotel,
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you hit the sunbeds on the far right,
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and I just walked
forward to the front,
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because that's my usual spot,
if you like, our usual spot.
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We used to choose that spot
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because you had a clear view
of the sea and the beach.
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And I love to people watch,
watching the world go by.
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- It was on the seventh
day of our 10-day holiday.
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We were, as you come out the hotel,
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we were the right
side of the sunbeds.
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My wife will have hers in the
full sun, all of the time.
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I'm not a particular sun lover.
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I'm either reading a book
or listening to music,
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which I was then.
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I had my headphones on.
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It was a great place to chill out.
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It was a very, very normal morning.
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Met some other Welsh people out there
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and we'd all gone down to the
beach together that morning.
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And the weather
obviously was fantastic.
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And then just sort of
chilled out on the beach,
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enjoyed the sun, and then
decided that we were gonna
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go into the water
on inflatable lilos.
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[somber piano music]
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I would say I'm a
bit of a water baby.
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Whether it's warm
water or cold water,
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I definitely enjoy being in water.
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We started off very
close to the shore
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and then sort of went
a bit further out
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and without really realizing it,
and I looked back,
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we'd actually floated out of our area
and into the next hotel's area.
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[somber music continues]
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So we'd been there for five days,
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and so it was actually
my 25th birthday.
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So we were just
chilling at the beach.
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There was the walkway coming
down from the Marhaba,
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and we were just on the sunbeds,
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just over to the sides there.
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It was Shelley's birthday, so,
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she wanted to do the jet skiing.
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I was happy to do that as well.
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{\an8}She also wanted to
do the power gliding.
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I was a bit apprehensive about that.
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- Ben doesn't like heights,
so I did that myself.
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{\an8}I can just remember going up,
being in the sky
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{\an8}and you could just see
over the whole of Tunisia.
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It was beautiful.
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It was just nice just
to feel relaxed, calm,
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away from everything, and just safe.
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[dark music]
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[car engine rumbles]
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[car door clicks open]
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[car door slams]
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[car door clicks open]
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[car door slams]
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[dark music continues]
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[dark music continues]
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[dark music intensifies]
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[birds chirping]
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Dave brought the drink back.
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I went to drink from my wine and
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just out of the corner of my eye,
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I just saw this flash of light.
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It's like, I don't
know, like super bright,
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like lightning type thing,
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but I don't know,
I just kinda turned to it,
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and um, yeah.
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It was...
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It was the,
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the terrorist.
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[gun fires]
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[gun fires]
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It took a second to register.
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I'm thinking, "That's
a high velocity rifle."
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And then suddenly, I ducked down,
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to look through the umbrellas
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and then it went to rapid fire.
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The terrorist had turned
it to automatic fire.
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[distant gun fire rapidly]
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- I thought it was fireworks.
I thought that's what it was.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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And then it didn't
sound like fireworks.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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- And you could hear
people screaming.
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And looking back to
the sand, you could see
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the sand flying up into the air
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where the bullets
were hitting the sand.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
[dark music continues]
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- And I could see something
was going on to my left.
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Couldn't quite work it out.
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And I saw my wife get off the sunbed,
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as she was on the left, look at me,
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and visually say to me,
"Effing run, effing run."
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So I took my headphones off,
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and I caught a glimpse of my
wife running up the beach.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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So, I just went down on the sand.
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So, between the sunbed.
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So, I was laying there
and Dave was there.
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We just kind of both went
down at the same time.
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[gun fires rapidly]
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The terrorist just...
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Just started
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firing at people. like...
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And um...
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He was standing there,
right in front of all the sunbeds.
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And then the noise was just,
it was something else.
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Just...
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, like that.
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And I could feel it.
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I could feel the sand
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jumping up.
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I just bent down, grabbed Tracy,
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and hoisted her off the sunbed
and she said, "It's fireworks."
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"It's fireworks."
[chuckles] "It's not."
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And literally, as she said that,
I could then hear
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the missile, the bullets
whizzing past my ears.
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Literally, they were that close
that they were skimming past us.
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- I felt the power of
the bullet
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and I had the sensation of it
actually passing under my arm.
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- As I was running with
Tracy, I looked back.
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I couldn't see the gunman,
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but I could just see
people going down
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and I could hear the noise.
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It's a very distinctive noise,
of people being shot.
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- You could just hear like
screaming and it was just a mess,
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to be honest, it was just
chaos, it was just...
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Like, you...
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I just thought I was
gonna die any second.
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You go into
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fight or flight mode.
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You don't want to be where you are.
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You know you're in a bad
spot and panic sets in.
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And the only thing I could
think to do from there was just
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to get back to shore
as quickly as possible.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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I had to run.
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[tense music]
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Then I saw an upturned boat,
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and I thought if I can
crawl or run to that,
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and hide behind that,
you're gonna be safe.
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And in those split
seconds behind the boat,
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I contemplated, like everybody does,
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you know, help me, somebody help me.
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What do I do? Do I stay where I am?
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Is there a risk to me? I didn't know.
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I didn't know.
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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So, I ran hell for
leather down the beach.
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And jumped into the sea.
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We were just sitting on the beach,
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and I started seeing on my left,
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rolls of sunbeds and people
just rolling like a wave,
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a tsunami coming towards me.
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- Everybody was screaming,
running. Just sheer panic.
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Nobody really knew
exactly what was going on,
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but everybody just
knew we needed to go.
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[hurried footsteps pattering]
[distant gun fire rapidly]
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My brain was so overloaded,
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but I do remember, when I
was running from the beach,
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down that narrow lane,
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that's when I heard
one or two big bangs,
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and I said, like, "Yeah,
let's pick up the pace now."
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[hurried footsteps pattering]
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[distant gun fires rapidly]
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- The person I was with
had already started to run
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and then I'm torn in my own head
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because I can see a woman in
front of me, lying on the sand.
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And
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I remember trying to drag her,
trying to move her.
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There's still people screaming,
there's still gunshots going off.
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And all I can remember
is trying to move her.
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00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,200
And after a few seconds,
I realized that she wasn't alive.
402
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
And I remember looking
down at my hands
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and they were covered in blood.
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00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:17,920
I just had to get out there then,
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00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,320
and then that's when I just ran.
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00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,080
- Dave grabbed my wrist
really hard and said,
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00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,640
"We need to run, babe."
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00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080
[distant gun fires rapidly]
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So,
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I got up and
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started following him.
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I had no idea where we were going.
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00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,840
[distant gun fire rapidly]
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00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,960
I fell over.
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00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Dave realized that I wasn't with him,
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00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,640
and he ran back and he
kind of grabbed my arms
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00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,600
and verbally picked me up
and said, "We need to...
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Come on. We need to go."
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I said, "I can't, I just can't."
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I couldn't hardly talk.
I couldn't breathe.
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00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,000
I couldn't...
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00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,320
I didn't know what to do.
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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,560
[distant gun fires rapidly]
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00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040
I thought Krystal was by the pool.
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00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,520
And so I was really upset
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00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,000
because I couldn't tell
her that I was safe
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00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,800
and not to come looking for me.
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00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,400
[suspenseful music]
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00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,120
[suspenseful music]
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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,080
- Your first thought isn't,
"Oh, terrorist attack, gunfire."
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And then it escalated really quickly.
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00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,360
{\an8}It went from more of a pop,
pop, pop, to extreme gunfire.
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00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
{\an8}And someone shouted, "Get down.
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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
{\an8}That's gunshots." So
everyone hit the floor.
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00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,440
{\an8}And then they shouted, "Run."
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00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,720
{\an8}- And then came the screams
and the people running,
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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,080
{\an8}and that's when we
thought, "Oh, my God.
438
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,320
{\an8}Something's happening."
439
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,560
{\an8}And somebody shouted,
"He's got a gun."
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00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000
- And I just remember one of the
guys that worked there, his face,
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he was looking back
and it was all in slow motion.
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00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,480
And I just darted. I just left.
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00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,000
[distant gun fires rapidly]
[suspenseful music continues]
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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,760
[distant gun fires rapidly]
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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960
We started to run towards the hotel
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00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,160
and then I suddenly thought,
447
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,080
my mum and Dave are on the beach,
448
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,960
and I wanted to go back.
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00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,800
[distant gun fires rapidly]
450
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,600
- It was chaos. Everybody was
running towards the hotel.
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00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,880
So, I run, but I didn't
realize the rest of the family
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wasn't with me at that point.
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00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Got up to the main doors of
the hotel and turned around
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and saw they were
still by the sunbeds.
455
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,600
- I just remember
thinking, "Oh, my God.
456
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Okay, I need to get out of here."
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00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840
I kind of circled back around
to where the main steps were
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and I was at the top and
I had realised I'm alone.
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00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,080
[distant gun fires rapidly]
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00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Was hysterical for like five seconds,
461
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,880
and then I just kept
thinking, "I need to survive."
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00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,440
[distant gun fires rapidly]
[suspenseful music continues]
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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,880
- I think this is one
of the hardest things
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for me to talk about.
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00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Knowing that my mum was on the beach
466
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920
and I didn't know whether
she was dead or alive,
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00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,800
was really hard.
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00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,880
And I was desperately trying
to go back and get her.
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00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,680
But Chelsea wouldn't let me.
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00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840
She grabbed me and said,
"We need to run."
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00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760
So, I did as she said. [chuckles]
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00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,400
And she dragged me into the hotel.
473
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,720
Literally dragged me by force into
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the reception of the hotel.
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00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,760
[hurried footsteps clacking]
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00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240
There was loads of us.
We didn't really know where to go.
477
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,440
Where we're safe.
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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,680
When we got into the reception,
479
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,640
some staff had opened up a door.
480
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640
They were ushering us in, telling us,
481
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,040
"It's safe in here, let's go."
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00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240
So, they took us in and
483
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,480
we just followed everybody.
484
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320
[hurried footsteps clacking]
[distant gun firing]
485
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,600
I was more concerned about
486
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760
where the rest of the
family was because
487
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,400
obviously I'd got to the hotel,
488
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,720
but I didn't know if they had.
489
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,720
They could've been anywhere.
490
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,360
You just get through it,
the best way you can,
491
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,120
and that's to almost not
believe it's happening to you.
492
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760
[hurried footsteps clacking]
493
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000
- There were several
flights of stairs.
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00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,160
People were just running.
495
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,440
We had no idea where we were going
496
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,200
or where they were leading us,
but we were trusting
497
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,960
that they were taking
us somewhere safe.
498
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,600
And we all came to a
natural stop in a corridor
499
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
where there were several
offices off the sides.
500
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,360
I was in a corridor with about,
501
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520
I'm gonna say 15 more people,
502
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
but where we were, the
offices were made of glass.
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00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520
So we were thinking,
"Okay, if he comes up here,
504
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,000
we have nowhere to hide."
505
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,400
[distant gun fires rapidly]
506
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,560
- I needed to take a minute
because I couldn't breathe.
507
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,320
I couldn't do anything
other than worry
508
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,520
about where my mum was.
509
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080
And I was just, all I remember
saying is, "My mum's dead.
510
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,160
My mum's dead. Where is my mum?"
511
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640
[dark string music]
512
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Our hotel room was probably
513
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,240
45 seconds walk from the beach.
514
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,960
I probably made it in 25.
515
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720
And I just opened the door,
grabbed Tracy,
516
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,240
{\an8}threw her in the room
517
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680
{\an8}and stood there for a second
thinking, "Well, what do I do?
518
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,480
What do I do?"
519
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,080
So, I just said, "Please
lay on the floor.
520
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,240
Don't make a noise.
521
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,520
Don't open the door till you
hear my voice. I'm going back."
522
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,160
And I just literally
slammed the door behind me
523
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,720
and run back to the beach.
524
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,360
[hurried footsteps clacking]
[dark music continues]
525
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,760
[distant gun fires rapidly]
526
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,160
- I remember sort of
running up the beach
527
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,280
onto a walkway that led from
the beach to the hotel gates.
528
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,560
[distant gun fires rapidly]
[dark music continues]
529
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,360
[hurried footsteps pattering on sand]
530
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,240
{\an8}The sort of overriding
thought was, "Is he behind me?
531
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,440
{\an8}Is he in front of me?
532
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,360
{\an8}Is there more of them gonna
come around the corner?"
533
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Because you don't stop
to grab your shoes,
534
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,440
you don't stop to grab anything.
535
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,200
It was just, you know, run
as fast as possible.
536
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,880
[hurried footsteps pattering]
537
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,800
[distant gun fires rapidly]
[dark music continues]
538
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,360
And the ground was really hot.
539
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,920
I realized actually I
burned my feet here.
540
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
But I had to carry on.
541
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,000
[hurried footsteps pattering]
542
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,600
I guess at that moment, I was
expecting to be shot myself.
543
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,240
All you're thinking is the worst
544
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,360
and trying to get back
to some place of safety.
545
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,400
[hurried footsteps pattering]
546
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,320
[water rumbles]
547
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:52,000
[dark music]
548
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,480
I was out at sea.
549
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,520
{\an8}I wasn't really getting very far.
550
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,560
{\an8}And then I started to feel
I was getting into some deeper water.
551
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,280
My heart was pounding.
I could feel my adrenaline rushing.
552
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,280
And I was struggling in the sea.
553
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,280
I'll admit it. I thought
I was gonna drown.
554
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,480
Okay? I did.
555
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,800
I think I had swum out a bit too far.
556
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,760
I was in depth.
557
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,000
I think I panicked.
558
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,720
[water rumbles]
559
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,080
And I prayed.
560
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,560
And I outstretched my right
leg and there was a rock,
561
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,480
and I managed to pull
myself onto the rock,
562
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,160
which lifted me out the water.
563
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,240
And I did see a couple of boats
564
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640
that were just going up and down.
565
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,320
One of them was Mohammed,
566
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,640
the guy that was the water
sports guy at the next hotel.
567
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,840
So, I started signaling to him
568
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,680
and luckily, he did
manage to spot me,
569
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,080
and he came alongside and
pulled me onto the boat.
570
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,040
I looked back at the beach and
I could see that, you know,
571
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,120
there was
572
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,520
more than one or two people
that unfortunately were,
573
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,320
were not gonna go home on that day.
574
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,080
[waves crashing]
575
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,880
And Mohammed took me up the
beach to the hotel next door,
576
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,360
and I got outta the boat and,
577
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640
and I started worrying
about where my wife was.
578
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,120
[suspenseful music]
579
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,440
[footsteps clacking]
[suspenseful music continues]
580
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680
And then we heard gunshots again
581
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,880
and it was pretty clear that
we were not safe where we were.
582
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160
We were in an office
with a glass front
583
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
and it was clear that that wouldn't
584
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,160
stop anything from getting to us.
585
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,360
So, Chelsea grabbed me again
586
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,280
and we looked to find
somewhere else to hide.
587
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,320
[distant gun fires rapidly]
588
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,080
- Having never heard a
gunfire before, the noise,
589
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,440
the noise was louder than
I'd ever thought possible.
590
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,920
- And eventually, it got to the point
where we stopped hearing gunfire
591
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
and we heard screaming
heading our way.
592
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
- We went back into
the original corridor
593
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,800
and pushed past people.
594
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,600
We needed to find somewhere.
595
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,200
We were desperate to get
out of the way of the man
596
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,120
that was coming down
the corridor with a gun.
597
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,200
So we went down the corridor
598
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,800
and ended up barricading
ourselves into an office.
599
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,840
[distant gun fires rapidly]
600
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,880
- It was quite an open-plan room
601
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,280
and there was windows,
both sides of it.
602
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,000
So, it was quite bright in there.
603
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,680
And it was a hot day.
604
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,600
There was no air con in the room,
as far as I can remember.
605
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,520
I was crouched behind a desk.
606
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,520
There was two young
girls in front of me
607
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,360
and then this mother and
daughter sort of just behind me.
608
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,520
[distant gun fires rapidly]
609
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,640
- There were already maybe
10 people inside the office,
610
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:49,400
already hiding underneath a desk.
611
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,960
But we made space, we forced
ourselves under this desk.
612
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,880
I was holding onto the bottom
of a wheelie office chair,
613
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,360
somehow thinking that that would
protect me, if he was to come in.
614
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680
[distant gun fires rapidly]
615
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,240
- You knew there was danger
really close to you at that point,
616
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560
but again, you didn't
know what was going on,
617
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,840
or how the danger was gonna unfold.
618
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,280
- But more and more people
came in and somebody decided
619
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,120
that enough's enough,
we're gonna shut the door.
620
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600
And then everybody hid
and we were silent.
621
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,960
We didn't wanna make a sound.
We didn't wanna be found.
622
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,960
We didn't want him to know
that we were in there.
623
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,440
I had all of these
really extreme thoughts
624
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,280
going through my head about
what was gonna happen to me,
625
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,520
if he found us.
626
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,880
- And I just remember
thinking, "If he comes in here,
627
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,880
he's gonna shoot me
and it's gonna be fast.
628
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,960
I'm gonna die."
629
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,920
[cell phone rings]
630
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,560
- [Krystal] Somebody'sphone started ringing
631
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,440
obnoxiously loudly in that room,
632
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,080
and everybody wasdesperate for it to stop.
633
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,520
- And it just felt like we were
sitting ducks at that point,
634
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,320
because he was there,
we had nowhere to go.
635
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,400
[distant gun fires rapidly]
636
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
I remember asking someone
if we were gonna die
637
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,040
and I was expecting a "No."
638
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,280
And he was like, "I, I don't know.
I couldn't tell you."
639
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,720
That's when the grenade went off.
640
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,000
[explosion roars]
641
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,920
[high-pitched tone rings]
642
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,840
And I just remember my ears went.
643
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,880
The whole room just
smelled like gunpowder.
644
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,360
I went deaf.
645
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600
I could feel my mouth moving,
646
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520
but I didn't know what I was saying.
647
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,360
I could smell
648
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,480
gas and
649
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,840
I could smell metal.
650
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,120
And
651
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,040
my sound was coming back
652
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,520
and I could hear people
screaming and shouting for help.
653
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,240
[distant explosion thumps]
654
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,640
Dave and I got to another hotel.
655
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160
I remember being scared still,
656
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,960
because you could
still hear shooting.
657
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,360
[somber orchestral music]
658
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,760
But then a manager came and said,
659
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,800
{\an8}"Everyone needs to go to a room."
660
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,200
{\an8}And um...
661
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,280
Everyone just went, you know?
662
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,680
And it's just me and Dave,
663
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,000
kind of one of the last people left.
664
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Then I said, "We haven't got a room.
665
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,040
This isn't our hotel."
666
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480
And he just kind of
dismissed me and said,
667
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,400
"Just go to anyone's room."
668
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,640
So we just followed a young couple
669
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,240
that were running up towards
some stairs and just said,
670
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,200
"Can we come with you guys?"
671
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,360
And they just said, "Yeah."
672
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,240
And then the young couple
were phoning their family
673
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,120
and when they finished talking
to their family, I said,
674
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,760
"I need to phone Krystal,
675
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
and I need to tell her
not to go to the beach."
676
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,560
Then I realized when
she gave me the phone
677
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,760
that I didn't know her number
678
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,440
and I didn't know how to tell
her not to go to the beach.
679
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,080
[somber orchestral music continues]
680
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,200
And...
681
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,960
You know, I kind of
was punishing myself.
682
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Thinking, "What kind of
mother doesn't even know their
683
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
daughter's telephone number
when they need to know it?"
684
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,680
[ominous music]
685
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,120
- We got back to our
hotel in the Royal Kenz.
686
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,320
{\an8}Everybody was just very panicked.
687
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,840
{\an8}Nobody knew what was going on.
688
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,560
{\an8}Everyone in tears.
689
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,600
{\an8}Children to full
grown adults, just...
690
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,240
Are we safe in the lobby? I...
691
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,120
We didn't know, you know?
692
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,280
- So we were advised
to go to our rooms
693
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
and we then started to move
the wardrobes and things
694
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,000
just in front of windows,
695
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,840
just so that we were completely
barricaded in our room.
696
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880
- At that point, I was
just sitting there,
697
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,400
in the hotel bed, just in fear,
698
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,680
waiting for that door to be
kicked open and to be shot.
699
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,480
That was very much at
the forefront of my mind.
700
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,520
That was my biggest
fear at that point.
701
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,920
[suspenseful music]
702
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,760
[distant gun fires rapidly]
703
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,200
I had left Tracy in our room
704
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200
to make sure that she was safe.
705
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,680
[distant waves crashing]
706
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,080
[distant gun fires rapidly]
[suspenseful music continues]
707
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,320
When I got to the beach,
the gunfire was still evident.
708
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,000
I run along to where my sunbed was
709
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,840
and I could just see
bodies and blood.
710
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,200
And that's when I found a woman
711
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,640
badly injured on her sunbed.
712
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,480
And as I had noticed
713
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,560
that her hand, her forearm,
714
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,040
was probably two meters
away from her body.
715
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,160
It had been blown off completely.
716
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,200
So I just rocked her,
touched her gently.
717
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520
I said, "My name's Alan,
do you speak English?"
718
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,480
And she said, "Yes, I'm Cheryl."
719
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,840
I said, "I'm here. I'm
gonna try and help you."
720
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,040
She'd obviously lost a
significant amount of blood,
721
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,600
but she was coherent.
722
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,320
We were engaging, we were speaking.
723
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,000
She was cooperating with me.
724
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,600
So I gave her some water
and she cleaned her face up
725
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,480
and I poured some
water over her mouth.
726
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,320
I noticed there were some towels
and there was some scarves.
727
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,760
So I literally did what
I could with Cheryl.
728
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
I just wrapped her arm with the scarf
729
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,000
and then I noticed her leg
was bleeding quite badly.
730
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,040
So, I pulled the towel down
731
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,240
and I wrapped the
towel around her leg.
732
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000
But all the time I was
doing this, she was saying,
733
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,200
"How's my husband?
734
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,400
My husband Steven.
Check him, please."
735
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,520
And I could see he was on
the other side of the sunbed.
736
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,320
And unfortunately, I could see that
737
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,120
his injuries were unsurvivable.
738
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,360
He'd been shot several times.
739
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,760
So, I said to Cheryl, "Look,
do you want me to tell you?"
740
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,840
"Please."
I said, "Are you sure?"
741
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,000
She said, "Please tell me."
742
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,640
I said, "Unfortunately, he's gone."
743
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,240
[somber music]
744
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,120
I said, "Look, I need to
get you away from here,
745
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,600
in case he comes back."
746
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,000
She said, "No.
747
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,360
I'm not leaving Steven."
748
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,120
So, I literally tipped over
some sunbeds, so she was hidden,
749
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,240
had the terrorist return that route.
750
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,640
Then my thoughts then went to Tracy.
751
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
"I need to go back to Tracy."
752
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,480
[hurried footsteps clacking]
753
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,680
So I run back to our room,
I'm knocking on the door,
754
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,160
banging the door, "Tracy,
open the door, it's me.
755
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,280
I'm here."
756
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,360
I'm thinking, "Why is she
not opening the door?"
757
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,640
And I'm banging and
banging, then I looked down,
758
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:56,800
and there was a post-it
note on the floor that said,
759
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,520
"I'm scared, I've gone to reception."
760
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,920
[dark piano music]
[distant gun fires rapidly]
761
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,720
- I don't know how long
we were in the room for.
762
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,280
It had been what felt
like a really long time,
763
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,240
and we could still hear
gunshots off in the distance.
764
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,360
But throughout that whole experience,
765
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,840
there was one person who,
other than Chelsea, supported me,
766
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,640
and that was Karl.
767
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:30,240
He held my hands and
repeatedly said to me,
768
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,280
"It's gonna be okay. We're
gonna find your mum."
769
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,080
- It was just a natural
response to reach out
770
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400
and you could see how scared she was.
771
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,480
So you reach out and held
her hand as a comfort to her,
772
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520
but it was almost comfort
to you at the same time.
773
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,120
He said, "I've lost my family too,
774
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,440
but we're gonna be okay."
775
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,080
And that gave me hope
that we were gonna get out
776
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,120
and we were gonna be okay.
777
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,480
Sorry.
778
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,960
[suspenseful music]
779
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,360
[distant people yelling]
[suspenseful music continues]
780
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,000
[people yelling in foreign language]
781
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,680
[people yelling in foreign language]
782
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,800
[people chattering in foreign
language]
783
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520
[people yelling in foreign language]
784
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,360
[distant explosion bangs]
785
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,720
[people yelling in foreign language]
786
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,400
[people yelling in foreign language]
787
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,440
[people yelling in foreign language]
788
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,480
[gun fires]
789
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,680
[explosion roars]
790
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
791
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,840
[holidaymaker pants]
792
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,200
[holidaymaker pants]
793
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,640
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
794
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,800
[holidaymaker pants]
795
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,400
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
796
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,880
[distant waves crashing]
[footsteps pattering on sand]
797
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,680
[holidaymaker pants]
798
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,480
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
799
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,480
[holidaymaker pants]
800
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,520
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
801
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,760
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
802
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,840
[holidaymaker yells in foreign
language]
803
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,080
[holidaymaker pants]
804
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,600
[distant people yelling]
805
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,200
[holidaymaker speaks foreign
language]
806
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,320
[distant waves crashing]
[hurried footsteps pattering]
807
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:22,240
[distant waves crashing]
[hurried footsteps pattering]
808
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,000
[dark music]
809
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,040
- Going into the gated area
of the next-door hotel,
810
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,600
I saw people hiding
in different places
811
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,600
and there was confusion
and panic going on.
812
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,680
And as I went out of the lobby,
813
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,840
a guy ran straight across me.
814
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,480
I thought, "God, what's going on?"
815
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,080
I mean, that really did scare me.
816
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,760
I didn't know if he
was another gunman,
817
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,920
an accomplice or whatever.
818
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,080
And I did catch that he was wearing
a hotel uniform in the end.
819
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,440
And he ran to my right
and jumped over a wall
820
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880
and it reminded me there's
a footpath that way
821
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,760
that I can get to the main road.
822
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,520
And I thought, "That's
where I'm gonna go
823
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,840
and see if I can get some
help or do something."
824
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,240
And that's when I got to the wall,
825
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,880
and just the other
side was the gunman.
826
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,920
Luckily, he had his back to me.
827
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Above one of the shops
on the roof terrace,
828
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,160
there was a guy, a great
Tunisian man on the roof,
829
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,560
just throwing tiles, ceramic tiles,
roof tiles off his roof,
830
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,760
to try and distract
the gunman, you know?
831
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,960
[tiles smashing]
832
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,920
[distant dog barks]
[dark music continues]
833
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,160
[guns firing rapidly]
834
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,400
[people yelling]
[guns firing rapidly]
835
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,760
[people yelling in foreign language]
836
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
The gunfire was incredible.
837
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,400
It felt like hours, at the time,
838
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,400
but no doubt, it was probably
only about 15 or 20 seconds.
839
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,160
[people yelling in foreign language]
840
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,600
[people yelling in foreign language]
841
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,840
[guns firing rapidly]
842
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,880
[people yelling in foreign language]
843
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,360
[people yelling in foreign language]
844
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,400
[somber acoustic guitar music]
845
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,040
[somber acoustic guitar music
continues]
846
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,840
We heard the gunfire,
847
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,840
and then there was
a knock on the door,
848
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,240
and someone came in and said,
"It's okay to go out."
849
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,680
It was the Tunisian police.
850
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,600
As soon as we saw that uniform,
851
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Chelsea dragged me off the floor
852
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,240
and we went to get out of the room.
853
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,360
[somber string music]
854
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,520
I didn't expect to see what
I saw outside of the door.
855
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,200
There was blood all over the floor.
856
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,880
There were bodies.
857
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,440
And I will never forget
the looks on their faces.
858
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,800
- my initial memory is, just
outside the office door,
859
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,360
there was blood on the floor.
860
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,560
So someone had obviously
been hurt or killed,
861
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,040
and I'd left my shoes by the pool,
862
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,000
so I had to walk through
the blood without shoes on.
863
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,200
I saw the first body was a woman.
864
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,040
And the way she was
sat really confused me.
865
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,520
At that point, I had never
lost anyone in my family.
866
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,760
Never dealt with death.
867
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,440
And I was like, "Why
is she just sat there?
868
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,520
This is a really serious thing.
869
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,000
She like, she needs to go."
870
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,320
And then I realized I was
stood in blood and it was hers.
871
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,440
And that's when I was like, "Okay."
872
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,360
- We walked through the blood
and we walked to the stairs
873
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,160
back down to the reception where
874
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,680
we had run from.
875
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,400
Amidst the chaos in the corridor,
876
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,400
I met
877
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,760
a middle-aged woman
and her daughter who
878
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,920
were supporting me as I kept
chanting, "My mum is dead.
879
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520
I don't know my mum is.
I need to find my mum.
880
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,680
My parents were on the beach.
My parents are dead."
881
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,360
That's all I could say was,
"My parents are dead."
882
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,240
And they kept telling me,
"We're gonna find them.
883
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,120
We'll find your parents.
It's gonna be okay."
884
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,160
[helicopter blades whirring]
885
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,000
[sirens wailing]
886
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,920
- Dave and I went back to
the hotel, Imperial Marhaba.
887
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,440
When we got there, it was horrendous.
888
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:51,920
The noise was horrendous.
889
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,240
So the noise on the
beach was one thing,
890
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,160
but then it went quiet and
then when we went back,
891
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,440
the noise was even something
else, like the sound
892
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,280
of all the helicopters and
all the commotion going on,
893
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,880
and all the vehicles.
894
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,680
People screaming, people crying.
895
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,560
People looking for their loved ones.
896
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,480
It was just absolutely chaotic.
897
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,760
The whole situation.
898
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,520
- I thought I better
retrace my footsteps,
899
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,440
to see if I can find my wife.
900
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,360
[dark music]
901
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,720
And then I could see what unfolded
902
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,200
to be nothing more than a massacre,
on the beach that day.
903
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,880
It was just a pure massacre.
904
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,080
Most of the bodies on the beach
were covered over with towels.
905
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
So, it was difficult
for me to identify
906
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,240
if it was my wife or not.
907
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,840
But I, I knew what she was wearing,
908
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,200
so I could see by her size and shape
909
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360
if it was my wife or not my wife.
910
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,040
Luckily, none of those were her.
911
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,040
So, I still had that hope
that she was gonna be okay.
912
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,360
[gentle orchestral music]
913
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,520
There was just hundreds of people
914
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,040
coming down the stairways.
915
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
And then I saw Tracy,
916
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,160
and I wasn't in a good state
917
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,800
because I had blood and sand on me.
918
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,640
So I think initially she
thought I've been injured.
919
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,960
I very quickly told
her that I hadn't.
920
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,120
It wasn't my blood.
921
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,160
But we just need to get back
to the safety of our room.
922
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,800
- As soon as I got down from
behind reception to the lobby,
923
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,080
I saw my mum.
924
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,640
She was right there.
925
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,320
And I don't remember this,
but she hugged me,
926
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,120
but apparently I couldn't
even hug her back
927
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,800
because I was just so in shock.
928
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,040
And she was checking me,
and I was like,
929
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,680
"Why are you checking me?"
930
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,240
And I was just covered in blood
931
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,800
and she was making sure
that it wasn't mine.
932
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,880
I prayed so many times that day.
933
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,680
I really did pray hard.
934
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,400
And I got to the back of the hotel,
935
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,360
and I prayed that I'd
see my wife again.
936
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,720
And I looked through the glass doors
937
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,760
and there I could see her
with her bikini, in reception.
938
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,080
And then from being fight
or flight and everything,
939
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,040
this was just pure elation,
940
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,000
that I just ran through the corridor.
941
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,080
We just grabbed each other and
just cried our eyes out that,
942
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,640
you know, that we had
got through it, you know?
943
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,160
- And then we saw my
mum and Dave. [chuckles]
944
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,000
They came through the
doors of the hotel.
945
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,560
And I've never felt relief like it.
946
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,840
It was like a scene out
of a Hollywood movie,
947
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,240
when you're running in
slow motion to somebody.
948
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,040
And it...
949
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,000
I've never hugged my
stepdad as tight as I did.
950
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,400
And then my mum and it was...
951
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,680
It felt, at that moment,
that it was over,
952
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,400
because I'd been
reunited with my mum.
953
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,720
- She said she phoned me so
many times and I didn't answer.
954
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,040
But I have to remember that
everything that happened that day,
955
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,560
or everything I did
that day, or we did,
956
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,040
was the right thing to
do, 'cos we all came home.
957
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,640
[birds chirping]
958
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,880
- I was at the local
park with my children,
959
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,400
just pushing them on the swing,
960
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,840
doing normal mum and daughter things,
961
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,480
{\an8}and that was when I received
the text from my dad,
962
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,880
{\an8}just to ask if I'd heard from Nan,
963
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,440
{\an8}which I replied, "No, why?"
What's going on?"
964
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,640
And he explained that there had been
a terror attack in Tunisia.
965
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,920
It was her eighth year going there.
966
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,000
I think she liked the food,
967
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,960
she found the locals very friendly.
968
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,880
She loved just laying in
the sun, having a sherry,
969
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,320
maybe a dip in the pool,
970
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,120
just spending quality
time with her partner.
971
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,680
I knew it was the day before
she was due to come home,
972
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,560
and I just assumed she was packing,
973
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,880
and doing her last bit of shopping.
974
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,720
And then my dad
messaged me again saying
975
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,840
that it was actually the
hotel my nan was staying at.
976
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,600
That was the hotel that was attacked.
977
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,000
So then the panic did
set in a little bit,
978
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,760
especially as she wasn't
answering my phone calls,
979
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,080
my text messages.
980
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,520
And I think by then, even
he sort of had the fear that
981
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,840
she probably wasn't hiding
somewhere, and by now,
982
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,120
she would've come
out and made contact.
983
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,800
[dark music]
984
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,400
On the second night, around 2:00 AM,
985
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,480
my daughter's doll
crib started rocking
986
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,160
and playing music on its own,
which was really strange.
987
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,040
And literally a split
second after that,
988
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,960
I received a phone call from
my dad, and I just knew then,
989
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,240
I just knew he's ringing at 2:00 AM,
it's not gonna be good news.
990
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,200
So, I answered the phone
991
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,800
and he just said straight away,
"Nan's been killed.
992
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,000
She's been shot. She's gone."
993
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,000
I don't think I'll ever, ever,
ever forget that phone call,
994
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,120
and it was like I knew
before I even answered it.
995
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,280
I just knew.
996
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,480
[birds chirping]
997
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,800
[leaves rustling]
998
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,880
- I remember thinking, "I
just want to get out of here."
999
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,600
I just want to be at home."
1000
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,000
My mum kept saying,
1001
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,120
"I won't be able to relax
until we touch English soil."
1002
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,480
Everyone was in a panic, you know?
1003
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,360
No one knew what to do
or what was going on.
1004
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,520
The hotel staff were
trying to do their best,
1005
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,240
but it was just chaos.
1006
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,560
- And then shortly after,
we were called, and said,
1007
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,800
"Look, we are gonna
take you to the airport.
1008
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,880
You're gonna get an armed
escort to the airport,
1009
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:29,960
and we're gonna put you on a plane."
1010
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,320
- I went straight up to the
hotel room, grab the bags,
1011
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,080
get them down in reception,
check out of the hotel,
1012
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,040
so that you know,
once that bus arrives,
1013
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,000
you can get out straight
onto it, and you're away.
1014
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,640
[bus engine humming]
[helicopter blades whirring]
1015
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,120
That was a nerve wracking journey,
1016
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,840
to get back to the airport
because you didn't know,
1017
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,560
there could've been a
gunman on that road,
1018
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,200
waiting to ambush the buses.
1019
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,400
And the entire coach journey,
1020
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,640
I had my hand luggage
up against the window,
1021
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,480
in case somebody was
gonna shoot at the bus.
1022
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,960
- Nobody knew what to
say to one another.
1023
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,080
Everybody just sat in silence.
1024
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,320
- And I am not gonna lie,
I was, you know, scared.
1025
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,480
- Every bus had a mini bus
full of soldiers alongside,
1026
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,920
and there was the
helicopters overhead
1027
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,320
following each bus as well.
1028
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,120
[helicopter blades whirring]
1029
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,520
But that in itself was sort
of, in a way, more terrifying
1030
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,600
to know that if they're putting
that much effort into it,
1031
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,800
what are they expecting,
something more?
1032
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,880
[brakes squeaking]
1033
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,280
[plane engines whirring]
1034
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,320
- I remember sitting
down on that plane
1035
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,720
and just thinking,
"We're going home."
1036
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,880
I just felt so relieved
to be on the plane,
1037
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,280
and knowing that we were
gonna be going home to safety.
1038
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,760
[plane engines whirring]
1039
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,760
I remember getting on the aircraft,
1040
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,240
finding a seat, sitting down.
1041
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,240
And I woke up when the
wheels hit the runway
1042
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,640
in Manchester airport,
1043
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,360
thinking...
1044
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,400
not really knowing where I was,
1045
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,160
and then I realized
that we'd arrived,
1046
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,840
which was a relief in itself.
1047
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:40,120
[waves crashing]
[gentle piano music]
1048
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,760
- Just so glad to put the key
in the door, when we got home.
1049
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,160
And um...
1050
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,080
Yeah, Bella,
1051
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,800
our German Shepherd.
1052
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,880
Yeah, so happy to see us.
1053
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,920
I just kind of was
on my hands and knees
1054
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,880
and just like, "I made it."
[chuckles]
1055
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,840
[birds chirping]
1056
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,520
- They'd arranged transport
for us to take us home,
1057
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,320
and going past our local church.
1058
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,080
So I opened the door
very quietly, went in,
1059
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,280
and unbelievably,
the vicar was mentioning about
1060
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,240
that they thought there
was someone in the village
1061
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,560
that had been involved in
what had happened in Tunisia
1062
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,720
and could the
congregation pray for us.
1063
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,640
What can you say?
1064
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,400
You know?
1065
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,040
It's just like everything
aligned for me.
1066
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080
It highlighted something inside me
1067
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,280
that I'd never felt before.
1068
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,680
That things were gonna
have to change for me.
1069
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200
- I just thought I could
carry on as normal,
1070
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,080
and I just tried to
get through the week,
1071
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,000
and take each day as it
comes and I didn't get
1072
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,680
a lot of sleep that week anyway,
1073
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,800
due to night terrors and
lying there, wide awake,
1074
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,000
asking myself "what if" questions,
1075
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,120
from what had happened
and what I'd seen.
1076
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,880
And then to get a few hours sleep,
1077
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,080
and have to recall it in detail
to counter-terrorism police.
1078
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,800
I guess that was kind of
almost the final straw
1079
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,720
that broke me,
emotionally and mentally.
1080
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,600
They left, and again, I just
tried to carry on as normal,
1081
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,520
and tried to tough it out.
1082
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,560
- I wanted to get back
to school immediately.
1083
01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:00,480
It happened on the Friday.
I went back to school on the Tuesday.
1084
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,440
Clearly, I was still
in a lot of shock
1085
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,920
and I just remember
everyone being like,
1086
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,880
"Millie, are you okay?"
1087
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,440
It was just normal to me.
1088
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:11,360
I didn't feel anything different.
1089
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,040
But clearly I was in shock,
1090
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,120
to go through something that
horrendous on the Friday
1091
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,200
and then on the Tuesday
be back at school
1092
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,040
and then it just all kind of hit me.
1093
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,520
[distant explosion roars]
1094
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,920
I struggled to be in crowds.
1095
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,920
I was hypervigilant of everything.
1096
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,960
[distant gun fires rapidly]
1097
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,240
I had a panic attack.
1098
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,080
I've had anxiety but never
a panic attack, before.
1099
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,200
My heart was racing,
I couldn't breathe.
1100
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,320
My hands were pins and needley,
1101
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,320
and after that, I
was at the hospital,
1102
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,520
every single day for about a week,
1103
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,080
because I constantly thought
I was dying of something,
1104
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,200
and I guess it was everything
just catching up to me.
1105
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,480
[birds chirping]
1106
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,840
[birds squawking]
1107
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,400
- I didn't feel safe, until
I stepped inside the house.
1108
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:08,240
And saw my dog and
felt like I was home.
1109
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,960
But that feeling of safety
doesn't last. [chuckles]
1110
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,200
And a friend of mine sent me
a message on Facebook saying,
1111
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,640
"Have you seen this?
1112
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,880
And she said, "This
was in Rome airport."
1113
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,360
So the headline is, "Terrorism:
1114
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:26,720
The Shockwave of a Bloody Friday".
1115
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,960
And I remember feeling really angry
1116
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,520
that my face was on the
cover of a newspaper,
1117
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,000
blood behind it.
1118
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,200
You know, recording the most
traumatic incident of my life
1119
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,400
without my consent,
1120
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:48,240
without my knowledge
that it had been taken,
1121
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,480
and shared around the world.
1122
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,640
I didn't wanna be at home
1123
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,360
because it was all over the news.
1124
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:05,360
It was all over the news,
on every program, on the radio.
1125
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:09,640
If it wasn't happening in Tunisia,
it was happening elsewhere.
1126
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,440
And I didn't like crowded places.
1127
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,520
I didn't like, you know, trains.
1128
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:17,960
I started to save water.
1129
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,200
So, you know, I got
a water butt, and um,
1130
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,200
and my husband thought
it was just for me
1131
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:29,240
to water the plants, to save
the planet and such, but um,
1132
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,440
it was because I thought if
we get our water cut off,
1133
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:37,040
I've got a water supply, so, I um...
1134
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,240
I'd ordered things
off Amazon, like um,
1135
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,200
Ration, blood packs,
1136
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,080
and I was hiding all this as well.
1137
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,440
So I was trying to hide
it in the greenhouse.
1138
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:55,760
So I knew, I knew that I
needed to get some help,
1139
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,960
because it was, it was getting
extreme, how I was behaving.
1140
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,360
- I finished work on
the Saturday morning.
1141
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,600
That was my last night
shift for that week.
1142
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,360
And I came home, parked
the car outside the house
1143
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,240
and I broke and I just sat in
the car and cried my eyes out.
1144
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,720
I was mentally done.
1145
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:19,840
I was broken.
1146
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,160
And that's kind of when I
realized that I needed help.
1147
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,440
I wasn't gonna just be able to
grind it out and tough it out
1148
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,280
and everything would
be back to normal.
1149
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,800
That was the... It's kind of
a big moment for me, then.
1150
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,240
[plane engines roaring]
1151
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,160
[tires screeching]
1152
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,040
[plane engines whirring]
1153
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,240
[somber string music]
1154
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,960
I do remember thinking Nan deserved
1155
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,960
to be brought back in
style, and she was.
1156
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,000
[somber string music continues]
1157
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,760
But it was really, really hard,
1158
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,400
seeing her being carried off,
1159
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,480
thinking she should have been
coming back from her holiday
1160
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,720
on a TUI flight and happy
as Larry with a suntan,
1161
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,440
but no, she's coming back in
an RAF plane and a coffin.
1162
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,320
It was just so overwhelming.
1163
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,600
[footsteps clacking]
1164
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,760
But I was just almost
glad she was back.
1165
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,560
I felt like she was here,
even though she wasn't in person.
1166
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,960
[somber string music continues]
1167
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,280
So after she was brought back,
1168
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:34,160
they put all the victims
in a room, their own room,
1169
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,040
and gave the families
the opportunity to
1170
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,320
go and say our last
goodbyes, I guess.
1171
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,920
Sort of when I got close up and had
that moment with her in the room,
1172
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,200
the feelings
then changed to grief
1173
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,520
and "I can't believe what's happened"
1174
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,680
and "is she really in there"
1175
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,240
and all the other questions
that go round in your head.
1176
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,640
[somber string music continues]
1177
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,200
[engines revving]
1178
01:15:12,440 --> 01:15:15,000
[birds chirping]
1179
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,080
Then we had to have the funeral.
1180
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,600
But it was really nice hearing
everyone's accounts of Nan
1181
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,320
in the church and
there were some giggles
1182
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,600
'cause she was a hilarious person,
1183
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,960
but obviously lots of tears as well.
1184
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,320
[somber orchestral music]
1185
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,160
[birds chirping]
1186
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,080
And then it was following
on to the crematorium,
1187
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,760
which was just close family then.
1188
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,360
So it was just a few of us
1189
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,320
and I think that was the
hardest part of it all,
1190
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,760
just because obviously
once the service is done,
1191
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,080
they close the curtain and I
was just thinking, "That's it.
1192
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,880
The curtain's closing
on my nan's life,
1193
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,480
and it shouldn't have been now."
1194
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,200
She loved life and she had
so much more life to live.
1195
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,880
So to see that curtain
closing on her,
1196
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,400
knowing that someone else
1197
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,120
has made that decision
for her, that was...
1198
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,320
Not only was I absolutely broken,
1199
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,480
but I was really, really
angry at that point.
1200
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,320
But yeah, I've just never felt
1201
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,280
so many different emotions in
such a short amount of time.
1202
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,000
I feel really angry
1203
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,480
that the terrorists did this.
1204
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,320
Selfishly, this was my holiday.
[chuckles]
1205
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,000
This was my holiday to
celebrate my 18th birthday,
1206
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,360
and he nearly took my mum from me,
1207
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:02,880
and that makes me really angry.
1208
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,400
I
1209
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:12,280
also feel really sad
1210
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:18,040
that he was in a position to do this.
1211
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,880
That he was misled or made
to believe in some way
1212
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,520
that this was the right thing to do.
1213
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,120
You know, if he was still
alive, I'd want to know why.
1214
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,560
Why did you want to do it?
Why did you choose this?
1215
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,880
Why then?
1216
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,120
[birds chirping]
[somber orchestral music]
1217
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,560
Is someone to blame?
1218
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,560
You know, I'm sort of
1219
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,480
lower-class English white, you know.
1220
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:57,800
Likes a bit of football,
the usual stuff.
1221
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,360
You know, gonna be honest about it.
1222
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:01,680
Most people think once
you've had something
1223
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:02,760
like this happen to you,
1224
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:06,360
it will just quite
easily make you typecast
1225
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:07,720
just about everybody.
1226
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,520
{\an8}So, I've really tried
hard not to blinker myself
1227
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,040
{\an8}and that led me to
the path of seeing,
1228
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,720
going to the Woking mosque,
1229
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:27,400
{\an8}and meeting a great guy, the Imam.
1230
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:31,760
{\an8}So, he said, you know,
"What can I do for you?"
1231
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,640
So, sat down, had a cup of tea.
1232
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,800
I had explained what
had happened to me,
1233
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,760
and I just had questions.
1234
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,160
For me to understand and learn more,
1235
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,040
why someone would do this.
1236
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,600
Getting an automatic weapon
1237
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,360
and trying to take people's lives.
1238
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,960
So, what religion, as
far as I was concerned,
1239
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,240
would find that acceptable?
1240
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,040
And he's very open and honest.
1241
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,520
And we had great, lengthy
discussions about, you know,
1242
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,360
religious beliefs, Islam, extremism,
1243
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:15,440
whether it's far right or
Islamic, or any type of terrorism.
1244
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:16,880
And I feel now,
1245
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:19,960
I'm getting,
1246
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,920
benefit is the wrong word,
1247
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,840
but I can understand
more about the world
1248
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,760
and everything around me now,
because of his conversation.
1249
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,640
[gentle music]
1250
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,280
- The attack really gave
me some perspective.
1251
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,680
So it was about a
year and a half later
1252
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,880
that a charity called
Strength To Strength
1253
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,480
flew me out to New York,
1254
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,560
and it's survivors against terrorism.
1255
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,680
So whether that be
someone that was injured,
1256
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,840
a child of a first responder,
1257
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,840
someone that had lost someone,
1258
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,280
someone that had been
in a terrorist attack.
1259
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,080
Pretty much covered all the bases.
1260
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,120
And I got there,
1261
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,480
and it was just...
1262
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,720
It was so surreal.
1263
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,120
We could just sit down and talk
about it like it was nothing
1264
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,320
because it was all so normal to us.
1265
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,600
We could have a
conversation without crying,
1266
01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:26,240
and that's what made me
want to move to New York.
1267
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,120
So I did it.
1268
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,960
It wasn't a big
decision for me at all.
1269
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,480
It was what I needed to do.
1270
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,600
I wasn't anxious about it
because I'd been through worse.
1271
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,360
I knew it was what was best for me.
1272
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,000
[gentle music continues]
1273
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,520
[birds squawking]
1274
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,480
- 2019 was the first
time I plucked up courage
1275
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,080
to go on another holiday.
1276
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,960
We just stayed in a small
cosy like hotel, and um...
1277
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,760
Yeah.
1278
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,400
I found out I had breast cancer.
1279
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:21,240
And I said, "This is the
first time for a few years
1280
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,360
that I've managed to
book a holiday and fly.
1281
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,240
So, just make sure my
surgery's not on that date",
1282
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,520
'cause I really wanted to go.
1283
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,200
So, yeah. I was proud.
1284
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,200
I was proud that I
was able to do that.
1285
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,920
But yeah, cancer and
cancer's treatment has
1286
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,520
kind of shifted my focus
1287
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:48,080
from being scared of
terrorists to, you know,
1288
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:49,720
what I need to deal with today.
1289
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,400
In a way,
Tunisia and being hyper alert
1290
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:58,240
could have helped me because
I'm not just alert to noises,
1291
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,720
and things that are going on outside.
1292
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,000
I'm alert to what goes
on in my body as well.
1293
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,760
I'd very much like to stay
alive for as long as I can,
1294
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,440
hopefully to see grandchildren.
1295
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,240
[Sharon chuckles]
1296
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,960
[somber music]
1297
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,440
I don't see myself as a hero.
1298
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,120
I went back 'cause I felt it
was the right thing to do.
1299
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:33,920
Cheryl was the real
hero in this, you know?
1300
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,280
She saw her husband shot and
she survived and pulled through
1301
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,240
and returned to work.
1302
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,440
And I do have her permission
1303
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,880
to read this very private letter.
1304
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,680
"Dear Alan, I'm writing to
thank you for all the help
1305
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,600
you gave me on the beach
on that horrific day.
1306
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,520
You cannot imagine how relieved I was
1307
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,480
to hear a friendly English
voice amongst all the chaos.
1308
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,440
You put your own life at risk
to come and help me and my husband,
1309
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,120
even though there were
still shots being fired.
1310
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,800
You broke the news to me gently
as you could that Steven was dead,
1311
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,160
even though I knew in my
heart that that was the case.
1312
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,320
You said your wife
was back at your hotel
1313
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,160
and she must have been going
frantic for your safety.
1314
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,880
Again, what a brave thing you did."
1315
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,480
[somber music continues]
1316
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,480
A lot of time has passed.
1317
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,360
There's a lot of water
under the bridge now.
1318
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,920
I hope people will remember
and understand and respect
1319
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,280
the survivors on that horrible day.
1320
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:59,800
We got married, September 2018.
1321
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,880
It's about three years
after the attack.
1322
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,040
It was a beautiful day. We
got married in a manor house.
1323
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,040
We had all of our family
there and friends.
1324
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,960
We've had two children since.
1325
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,680
So we've got a little boy
and a little girl.
1326
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,160
But every year that my
birthday comes around,
1327
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,520
I know that it was that
awful day and what happened.
1328
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,680
So the thought is always there.
1329
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,720
[warm orchestral music]
1330
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,680
- It's quite, quite a strange
thing when you look back.
1331
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,960
That was a really small part
of your life and it's shaped
1332
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,120
who I am today,
1333
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,240
and the reason I have the resilience
1334
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,240
and I guess that attitude of,
1335
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,760
"Yeah, whatever it is, I can
face it and I'll go with it."
1336
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:02,200
When I look back,
it goes right back to then.
1337
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,440
I was probably too hard on myself.
1338
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,000
I expected too much of myself
1339
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,680
and I didn't help enough that day.
1340
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,560
That was something I
punished myself for.
1341
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:16,600
And that ultimately led me
to the career choice I made,
1342
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,000
which was to join the fire service.
1343
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Once I got through the really
tough period that first year,
1344
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,160
and felt like mentally I
was in a good place too,
1345
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,920
to make a decision to
do something like that,
1346
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,000
to start that journey of
beginning to help people more.
1347
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,600
[gentle piano music]
1348
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,800
- So there are some very
positive things going on
1349
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,040
in my life at the moment.
1350
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,880
I am currently 31 weeks pregnant,
which is amazing.
1351
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,920
I have a husband and a house
and a beautiful dog and a cat.
1352
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,200
I think there'll be a fear when
it comes to when he's older.
1353
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,120
I'll want to wrap him in
bubble wrap, and I can't,
1354
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,400
just because of what
I've been through
1355
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:09,920
and I know how bad the world can be,
1356
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,080
but I need to be able
to do what my mum did.
1357
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,760
She let me go out, move countries,
live my life
1358
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,200
and she was probably petrified.
1359
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,840
So I think I need to
prepare myself for that
1360
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,480
and make sure that I
don't over coddle him.
1361
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,320
[gentle music continues]
1362
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,760
- I always take the 26th of
June off work because I know
1363
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,080
I'm never gonna be in a
brilliant space to work it.
1364
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,760
[door creaks]
[fire crackles]
1365
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:41,280
I always book that
as a day's holiday.
1366
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,440
You think back to what
happened on that day and mainly
1367
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,560
for the people who
didn't come home that day
1368
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,920
and the families who didn't survive.
1369
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,680
I'm just really glad that
I was able to help someone
1370
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,560
that day in a real tough experience.
1371
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,600
If me being there helped her,
I'm just really grateful
1372
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,040
that I could be there to do that.
1373
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,400
- I wanted to reclaim
some of my identity,
1374
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,320
but I didn't also wanna
be the same person
1375
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:16,600
that I was in the attack.
1376
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,560
So I started to get tattoos,
I started to get piercings,
1377
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,760
and I started to be the
person I wanted to be,
1378
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,680
to use the experience to be me.
1379
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,320
When I got my offer for university,
1380
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,040
my mum and I were bawling
our eyes out of joy
1381
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:35,920
that I'd got into university.
1382
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,200
And it was that moment,
I thought that,
1383
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,120
"Okay, I'm gonna
make the most of this
1384
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,080
because I shouldn't have
been here, but I am."
1385
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,560
[gentle piano music continues]
1386
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,760
- You don't know by
looking at somebody,
1387
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,480
what they went through
yesterday, last night, last year,
1388
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,080
two years ago, ten years ago.
1389
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,000
Anyone that goes through
anything like this,
1390
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,480
it takes time.
1391
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,080
[uplifting orchestral music]
1392
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,240
[uplifting orchestral music
continues]
1393
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,520
[uplifting orchestral music
continues]
1394
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,800
[uplifting orchestral music
continues]
1395
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:02,200
[somber acoustic guitar music]
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