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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,560 This programme contains very strong language. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,800 DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,240 My name is Stewart Copeland. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,880 I make noise for a living. I hit things with sticks. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,160 But I also compose, listen to, 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,320 and have pretty much built a life 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,640 on the strange phenomenon that we call... 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,040 ..music. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,600 My first recollection of being captivated by music, 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,080 being enslaved by music, was sitting in a darkened room, aged seven, 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,200 listening to Carl Orff's Carmina Burana. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,360 CARMINA BURANA PLAYS 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Something powerful took hold. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,200 Some seriously strong mojo which never let me go. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,120 It led me through a career in bands including The Police and beyond. 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,920 What was going on was that the heart of a seven-year-old was being 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,080 lit up like a bonfire of emotion. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,760 But why? 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,520 How did music ignite this flame? 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,720 # Girl, you really got me going... # 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,240 What exactly is this stuff that has ruled my life for more 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,520 than 60 years? 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,280 And that makes everyone else jump and shout, laugh and cry? 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,960 Shakespeare doesn't do that, Spielberg doesn't do that, 25 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,240 Rembrandt doesn't do that. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,640 So, in this series, I want to find out more about its mysterious power. 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Why does music bring us together? 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,360 How can it transport us to a higher plane? 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,920 And in this programme, what does it do to help us 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,840 understand the stories that we hear? 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Yeah. That's a great cue! 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,840 # Don't ever set me free 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,840 # I always want to be by your side... # 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 From film scores with Francis Ford Coppola... Great to see you. 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,840 ..to folk songs and old friends. 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Often, they'd sing about magical stories, you know? 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Witchcraft, spells. 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,240 And from stirring symphonies, 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,800 to a story in just three seconds. 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,760 I recognise that. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Stewart Copeland. Film one, take one. 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Music and stories are perfect partners. 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,280 And they help each other out in so many ways. 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,880 # Johnny's in the basement mixing up the medicine 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,360 # I'm on the pavement thinking about the government 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,040 # The man in a trench coat 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,440 # Badge out laid off 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,880 # Says he's got a bad cough... # 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Whether it's a vintage piece of Bob Dylan... 50 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,960 HE SINGS IN GERMAN 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,240 ..or a magnificent slice of Wagnerian opera... 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,600 ..music has always helped us tell stories, setting the tone 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,040 and adding a framework and emotion to any narrative... 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,960 # My gift is my song, yeah 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,360 # And this one's for you... # 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,920 ..especially when the lyrics tell you stuff 57 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:13,280 and the music helps you to feel it. 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,760 # And you can tell everybody 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,760 # This is your song 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,600 # It may be quite simple but 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,720 # Now that it's done 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,760 # I hope you don't mind 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 # I hope you don't mind 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,760 # That I put down in words 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,400 # How wonderful life is 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,400 # While you're in the world. # 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,040 But what about when there are no words at all? 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Music alone can't help but prompt emotion, 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,400 but what I want to know is, can it tell an actual story on its own? 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Welcome to New York City and meet Yun and Hugo. 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,760 We're here because of a heavyweight bout that started 170 years 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,880 ago in Germany. 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,600 In the red corner, Richard Wagner. 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Wagner wanted the story told by his music to be precisely the one 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,200 outlined in the programme notes, hence the name - 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,880 "programme music". 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,800 And in the blue corner, Johannes Brahms. 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Brahms preferred what he called "absolute music", 79 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,560 music for music's sake. 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,080 He believed any story the composer was trying to tell was not 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,320 so important. And composers have been arguing about it ever since. 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 But I reckon what really matters is what listeners might think 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,280 when they hear the music with no idea of the story it was 84 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,240 designed to tell. 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,680 ..little experiment with these musicians here. Sure! Ready? 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,160 This is Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saens. 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,320 The storyline is this. It's Halloween. 88 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,360 And Death is summoning the dead from their graves to dance for him 89 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,320 while he plays his fiddle. 90 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,520 So, let's see how they do. 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Beautiful. Right. Yes. 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Did that one evoke anything in particular? 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,800 It was, like, really suspenseful. 94 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,200 It sounded like something you'd hear in a horror movie, when 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,160 there's like, someone around the corner and then it 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,880 kind of got lighter and it sounded like Pirates of the Caribbean. 97 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 That's pretty detailed. That's a lot of story in there. 98 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,720 She got more out of it than I did. I'm sorry. I have to listen again. 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,880 I would say sounds almost mysterious and a little suspenseful. 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Suspenseful? Like someone's in a rush, maybe? 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,720 Yeah. Someone's in a rush? 102 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,920 A race, maybe. A race? Like a chase. OK, a chase. 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Made me feel pretty anxious, actually. 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Made you feel anxious? Yeah. 105 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,120 It seems as if these folks, at least, make sense of what they're 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,320 hearing by beginning to turn it into some kind of narrative. 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,680 And even without a clear storyline, music suggests one. 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,880 And when that occurs, strange things happen. 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,840 One minute, this guy is listening to Lark Ascending by Vaughan Williams. 110 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,240 And the next, it's as if the music has suggested a story to him, 111 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,040 in which he proposes to his girlfriend, and she accepts! 112 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,040 And by the way, this is real life. Not a set-up! 113 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Music is powerful stuff! 114 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,640 WISTFUL VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS 115 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,480 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 116 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,600 CROWD WHOOPS 117 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,720 Daniel Levitin is the author of This Is Your Brain On Music. 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Maybe he can shine some light on this mysterious force? 119 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,120 What we've found in the laboratory is that music activates more 120 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,920 areas of the brain than language. 121 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,480 It creates greater amounts of neural activity, 122 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,920 more electrical firing in the brain. 123 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Some parts of the brain that have nothing to do with audio, even? 124 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,680 Yes, exactly. 125 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,000 It reaches into different crevices of the brain, if you will, 126 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 and it activates these regions that you don't get from speech alone. 127 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,200 It's a lot more engaging for the brain to have the music there. 128 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Music is the language of emotion. 129 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,440 GROUP CLAMOURS 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,760 And that is why music is the best friend story could ever have. 131 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Look what happens to a nice day out at the seaside... 132 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,840 ..when you add John William's threatening iconic 133 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,400 score for Steven Spielberg's Jaws. 134 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,400 MENACING MUSIC PLAYS 135 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,400 MUSIC CRESCENDOS 136 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,760 MENACING MUSIC PLAYS 137 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 And imagine Star Wars without the stirring 138 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,480 Imperial March by the very same composer. 139 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Creating or selecting music specifically for a particular 140 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,000 scene mixes its natural narrative structure and emotional power 141 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,920 with pictures and sound in a marriage made in music heaven. 142 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,440 This is Danny Elfman. 143 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,440 I'm not an expert boobam player. 144 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,400 One of the most important and gifted film composers on the planet 145 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,640 and, by no accident, damn fine drummer! 146 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,040 And if you press the pedal it acts like a mute. 147 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,760 His studio is a museum devoted to movies and musical storytelling... 148 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,720 ..where he wrote brilliant scores for an amazing range of projects, 149 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,040 from the Gothic comedy The Nightmare Before Christmas, 150 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,160 to the barnstorming blockbuster Spider-Man. 151 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:31,440 And from eccentric oddity Edward Scissorhands, to the 152 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,560 infectious tune for a little show called... 153 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,200 Which, it is said, took him just one day to write. 154 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Not bad. 155 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,960 SIMPSONS THEME PLAYS 156 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,280 Above all, he's a storyteller. He just doesn't use words. 157 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,120 Yet that's a tradition in cinema that goes back to the 1930s. 158 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,560 Why do the directors need this? 159 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,800 They're telling a perfectly good story with a perfectly terrifying 160 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,160 antagonist, a handsome protagonist, 161 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,840 beautiful love interest. 162 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,200 Why do they need music? 163 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Because the music does something they learned very early on, 164 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 that the pictures couldn't do. 165 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Take the decidedly lukewarm chills of early horror movies, for example. 166 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,960 In the very first Frankenstein and the first Dracula, no music. 167 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,120 FRANKENSTEIN GROANS 168 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:35,880 All music was in the first films was opening 169 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,280 and closing, like a play, and then they figured out a few years 170 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,280 later, 1933 and 1935, "Why don't we take it up a level?" 171 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,520 If you put this dramatic music, it really raises the stakes. 172 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,320 As shown in the pioneering movie King Kong. 173 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,800 And if you put something heartbreaking when, you know, 174 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,920 your hero or heroine is going to die, it really raises the stakes. 175 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,720 As seen in this stirring scene from The Charge Of The Light Brigade. 176 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,160 So, who do you think the audience is going to believe 177 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,240 and why are they going to believe not their lying eyes, 178 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,080 but your minor chord? 179 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Because they're not thinking about it and it happens unconsciously. 180 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Goes straight to their heart? It goes straight to the heart. 181 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,200 So, the idea that you see somebody walking, 182 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,080 but you hear music that's disturbing. 183 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Now, it's not saying this person is good or bad, 184 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,600 you're not saying he's evil, you're not saying this, you're 185 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,960 saying there's something going on that's disturbing right now. 186 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,440 Hitchcock's Vertigo did this so beautifully. 187 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Where the score is just expressing obsessiveness with 188 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Jimmy Stewart's character. 189 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,560 He's driving and there's all these things, he's doing nothing 190 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,760 but driving. Well, you could put anything behind it. 191 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,880 The music is telling us that he's not just driving, 192 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,840 he's driving absolutely obsessed with this woman, 193 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,200 that there's nothing else that matters more to him 194 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,960 in his life than figuring out what the secret of this woman that 195 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,960 he's in love with is, and what is going on around him. 196 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,960 The music tells you that. 197 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,800 As I'm with a master of this dark art, 198 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 I'm dying to see if he can score something for us, 199 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,920 and show us how music can actually tell us what's happening. 200 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,320 You can sit here, Stewart. 201 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,000 OK. So, we will demonstrate how the music can entirely change 202 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,200 the atmosphere of this handsome guy walking through what 203 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,040 looks like the streets of Paris. 204 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,080 OK. 205 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Here's a non-descript Joe, walking down the street, 206 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,040 and without music, it kind of lacks a point. 207 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,600 But there are multiple stories that these simple images could tell, 208 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,160 depending on the use of some basic musical devices. OK. 209 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,080 So, we start out here as a blank template. 210 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,680 OK, I'm going to set a tempo here. 211 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,040 DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS 212 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Even a single drumbeat can begin to tell a story. 213 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,000 I can feel that tension. 214 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,320 There's definitely a feeling that either he's planning 215 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 something illegal or something bad's about to happen to him. 216 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,840 Something really simple here. 217 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Mandatory drone? There you go. 218 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Something you probably find yourself having to do is cure bad acting. 219 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,880 I've never worked with a bad actor. 220 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,520 I don't know what you're talking about. Right. 221 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Oh, a little heroism there. 222 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Ummm, hopefully not! 223 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Next, Danny tries dissonance, a combination of notes 224 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,720 that are not in harmony and suggest that something is wrong. 225 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,200 MUSIC INTENSIFIES 226 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,440 OK. So, there's generic 101. That completely nails that. Yeah. 227 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,720 How about I do the same scene again? Yeah. But let me do it my way. 228 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Now, if I were having fun with this scene... 229 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Pizzicato, the plucking of strings, is often a clear 230 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,480 signal that this will be a playful, mysterious or mischievous story. 231 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,320 I'm turning this into something completely different. Yeah. 232 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,640 Well, you're adding emotional layers to it, because 233 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,920 when you first start playing with the pizzicato, 234 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,120 it was straight comedic. 235 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,840 But now, these other, giving it more nuance of a black comedy. 236 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,200 Yes, exactly. 237 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,200 It's exactly what we're doing here. 238 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,520 We're giving a little bit like, "What IS going on in this scene?" Yeah. 239 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 You're posing a question. Exactly. Posing a question. 240 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Put that well. 241 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,480 TENSE MUSIC 242 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Yeah, yeah. That's a great cue. Something's up. 243 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,960 You just don't know what. Yeah. 244 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 You've taken something completely neutral 245 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,240 and given it information, emotional information. Right. 246 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,200 So, there you are. It's as easy as that. Now, that's my day's work. 247 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,960 I'm going to go home and enjoy the family for the rest 248 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,520 of the evening, because that's a typical day of a film composer. 249 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,640 You work for about 45 minutes... That's right, yeah. 250 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,040 ..then we're off. 251 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Danny's music exploits our expectations of what will 252 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,120 happen next - tension and release, 253 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,600 and dissonance and resolution 254 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,800 transform the way we understand a scene. 255 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,360 Now, believe it or not, 256 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,120 I actually spent 20 years of my life composing for films. 257 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,840 And it was no less a legend 258 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,960 than Francis Ford Coppola who gave me the opportunity to 259 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,240 write my first score on the radical teen art flick Rumblefish. 260 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Francis wanted a rhythm-based score for his movie, 261 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,000 and the recording process, like the film itself, was kind of... 262 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,800 ..free-form. 263 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Working on that movie with the maestro was an education, 264 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,800 a masterclass in music and composing to visuals. 265 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 It taught me that sometimes the music, 266 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,680 as much as the dialogue and acting, is telling the story. 267 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 But Coppola is as famous for using found music 268 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,800 in his movies as much as custom-written scores. 269 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Ask me a question. 270 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,240 What is music and why? 271 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Cut to what I said. Yeah. 272 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,200 How come all you guys sit on your helmets? 273 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,520 So we don't get our balls blown off. 274 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 HE LAUGHS 275 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Francis's use of pre-existing music is a key factor 276 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,800 in the success of the extraordinary Apocalypse Now. 277 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Big Duke 6 to Eagle Thrust. Put on psy-war-op. 278 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Make it loud. 279 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 This is a Romeo Foxtrot. Shall we dance? 280 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,760 MUSIC: Ride of the Valkyries by Richard Wagner 281 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Here is a brilliant example of what the industry calls needle drop. 282 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,560 Using the story the piece of music already carries as a counterpoint 283 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,200 to what we're seeing now, creating a whole new narrative. 284 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Add Wagner to the Vietnam War and you get thrills, of course, 285 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,200 but you also get brilliant irony. 286 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,640 MUSIC CONTINUES 287 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,000 I've always used music in an aggressive way. 288 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,320 And the choice of who's going to do the music for me is never, 289 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,440 "Oh, I'm going to get my long-time composer 290 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,240 "and he's just going to do a score." 291 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,680 I always have a kind of concept of how I want the music to function. 292 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,360 The couple of instances where you have really used 293 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:57,760 music dramatically is where you pull it out. 294 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,680 In Apocalypse Now, the famous use of the Valkyries, 295 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,400 where it's really thrashing away. 296 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,680 RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES CONTINUES 297 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Cut to the village. Silence. 298 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,200 DOGS BARK 299 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,960 You know, with sound in particular, contrast is very important. 300 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:22,840 So, if you just have bombastic loud music all the time, it starts 301 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,480 to be monotonous. Like sound effects, too. 302 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,960 So, you try to always, 303 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,840 you're always trying to pose opposites and use silence. 304 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Silence is very powerful. 305 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Silence is a very powerful sound, you know, 306 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,920 especially when you've been hearing a lot of sound 307 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,240 and suddenly you pull it out, but you really feel it gone. 308 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960 RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES CONTINUES 309 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,920 BABY CRIES 310 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,880 Coppola uses music as a formal narrative device, 311 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,560 not just as mood-setting accompaniment. 312 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 And this seminal scene from The Godfather 313 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,760 is about as good as it gets. 314 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,720 With the baptism scene, it starts like baptism music, with these 315 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,160 nice major chords, 316 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,960 and then suddenly, when the bad stuff starts to go down, 317 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,080 it cuts to this very dark piece of... I think it's Bach. 318 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,400 Michael, do you believe in God, 319 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,560 the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth? 320 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,520 I do. Do you believe in Jesus Christ...? 321 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,120 What happened with that is we had cut that sequence not to 322 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:35,640 any music, and originally the book had 50 pages of revenge on all 323 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,560 of the various opposing families. 324 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,880 And I had the idea to intercut it all with the baptism, 325 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,280 basically as a way of, 326 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,800 "How do you get 50 pages of a novel into five minutes of movie?" 327 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,520 You know, I had to shorten it. 328 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,160 So, I wrote it that way in the screenplay 329 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,920 and it didn't work at all. 330 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,320 One of the editors, Peter Zinner, just added this organ music 331 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,520 which he got, and suddenly the whole sequence worked. 332 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Michael Francis Rizzi, do you renounce Satan? 333 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,880 DRAMATIC ORGAN MUSIC 334 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,520 I do renounce him. 335 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,120 I remember being astounded, 336 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:20,560 because I was worried about what was wrong with my idea. 337 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Conceptually it was great, he was becoming the Godfather and he was, 338 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,720 you know, doing all these diabolical things, but it didn't work. 339 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,640 And it was only when Peter Zinner cut that organ music in it 340 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,480 that it worked. 341 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,240 In a scene lasting nearly six minutes, there are only a few short 342 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,440 lines of dialogue, 343 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,960 but there's a lot for us, the audience, to take in. 344 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,400 To move the story along, 345 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,680 the church music is used in juxtaposition with the mob violence. 346 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,800 But how? What in our human brains is going on? 347 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,880 How does wordless music give us so much information? 348 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Elizabeth Margulis directs the Music Cognition Lab 349 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,040 here at Princeton University. 350 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,200 She's spent her career trying to understand 351 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,360 how our brains are affected by music 352 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:11,440 and the mechanics of how it helps to tell stories. 353 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Now, we might say that a piece of music we love really speaks to us. 354 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,880 So, maybe the idea of language is a good place to start. 355 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Humans seem to have a fundamental need to make 356 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,840 sense of the world through stories. 357 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,920 There's no such thing as abstract music, right? 358 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,400 Music carries with it these signatures of where it comes from 359 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,160 and who does it, and all that is 360 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,880 an important part of how people hear it. 361 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,880 So, one of the things we're interested in is what's 362 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,680 happening from moment to moment while people are listening. 363 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,720 So, if you want to understand musical syntax, it might help to 364 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,800 understand how each, you know, moment sounds. 365 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Not just the whole overall piece. What do you mean by musical syntax? 366 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,320 So, if you think about syntax in language, 367 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,600 you think about grammar, right? 368 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,760 And how things are structured together, 369 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,600 and that this clause is dependent on this one, 370 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:11,360 and if you think about syntax in speech, right, if I say, 371 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,440 "Linda eats broccoli", 372 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,160 that's really different than, "Broccoli eats Linda". 373 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Right? Mm-hm. 374 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:23,280 So, similarly, the way you string together these various notes 375 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960 and these various chords with these different functions 376 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,080 can impact where you feel. 377 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,120 You know, you can use the same notes, 378 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,600 put them in a different order and really 379 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,480 create a completely different path through this tension space. Mm-hm. 380 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,720 Like, "Oh, this note doesn't normally go to that note, 381 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,360 "we went there, what's going on? 382 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,880 "Something interesting is happening." Exactly. 383 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240 # Satan 384 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,360 # Sitting there 385 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:51,440 # He's smiling... # 386 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,360 When Ozzy Osbourne plays with our sense of expectation, 387 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,120 when a melody is expected to go somewhere nice 388 00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,240 but goes...wrong... 389 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:09,000 # Watches those flames get higher and higher... # 390 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,160 We feel the dissonance. 391 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,840 # Oh, no, no, please, God, help me... # 392 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,920 This example is called the devil's tritone. 393 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,120 Gustav Holst famously used it in his Mars Suite. 394 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:36,160 And the lack of expected resolution just sounds dangerous. 395 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,480 And that tells a story of its own. 396 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,640 So, the idea with music is that you can use, you know, 397 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,960 musical syntax, you can use this kind of organisation to build 398 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,560 tension as you're listening, so the music seems like it's getting 399 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,880 tenser, and then like it's relaxing and dissipating that tension. 400 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,360 Silence creates great tension. 401 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,960 Yeah, like... That's what reggae is all about. Right. 402 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,600 STEWART MIMICS REGGAE INSTRUMENTS 403 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 So, in the same way that reordering words in a sentence 404 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,360 changes the meaning of what's being said, 405 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,880 reordering notes, creating pauses and silence, 406 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 and playing with our expectations of what comes next 407 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,960 can really affect the story being told. 408 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,080 And that's not all. 409 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,320 The convention, in the West at least, 410 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040 is that a major key is happy... 411 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 ORCHESTRA PLAYS BOUNCILY 412 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,600 ..and a minor key is sad. 413 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000 ORCHESTRA PLAYS MOURNFULLY 414 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,320 All of these conventions of music are part of a composer's toolkit, 415 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,520 and I for one have been using them in film music for years. 416 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040 But that doesn't mean the rules can't all be broken. 417 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,400 Caroline Shaw is one of the most exciting composers 418 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400 in the new classical scene. 419 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000 She won the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2013 420 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480 for this stunning piece of vocal music, 421 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Partita For Eight Voices. 422 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,720 MUSIC: Partita For Eight Voices by Caroline Shaw 423 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,880 So far, so conventional. 424 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,320 But all kinds of rules are about to be broken, 425 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,880 or at least stress-tested by this piece. 426 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,640 VOCAL LINES START TO MIX 427 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,080 There are conventions of storytelling 428 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280 and use of music in storytelling. 429 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,960 Music will take a tale and give it emotional power. 430 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,000 I suspect you do not observe these conventions faithfully. 431 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,160 No, you can always take a rule 432 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,440 and some kind of convention like that in a frame and then... 433 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,680 ..break it. Mm-hm. 434 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Either from the bottom or from the side or from behind. 435 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,960 And make something that tells that story and does 436 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,960 what you want it to do in an oblique way, 437 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,120 but much more effectively. Mm-hm. That's what I've found. 438 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:31,080 Or you're not trying to tell any particular story at all, 439 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,360 but you organise the elements that you have, erm, 440 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,520 in a narrative way, and that, sort of, 441 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,680 can lead someone who's experiencing that thing 442 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,600 to a particular conclusion, which may just be a gut feeling. 443 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720 MUSIC: Plan and Elevation: IV. The Orangery by Caroline Shaw 444 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000 This is one of Caroline's latest pieces, 445 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,280 Plan And Elevation: IV. The Orangery 446 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,640 performed by the Attacca Quartet. 447 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,200 From austere and strange to heart-stoppingly beautiful, 448 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Caroline's music is a full-on narrative of pure emotion. 449 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,880 Who needs words? 450 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,920 There's something about writing a piece for a string quartet 451 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,360 or orchestra, just instruments, where I feel, like, 452 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,840 I'm just trying to write a story for people. 453 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760 There is nothing else there. 454 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,400 You think about foreground and background 455 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240 and colour and narrative and pacing and space... Mm-hm. 456 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,160 ..and all of those things, sort of, elevation of pitch 457 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,280 and quality of speaking, all those things can be, sort of, 458 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,520 funnelled into a piece of music 459 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,360 and they come out the other end in some way that I can't quite trace 460 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,400 the relationship. So, you have a broad definition of story? 461 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Broad definition of story. OK. Sure. 462 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,880 Units of things that are organised in a particular way 463 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,080 where you can follow them and be invested in them, I guess. 464 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Well, I guess that's one definition of story. 465 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,320 But there are others out there, if you know where to look. 466 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,880 The avant-garde is always looking for new ways to tell tales. 467 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Matthew Herbert is one of Britain's foremost experimental 468 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520 and esoteric musicians. 469 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,480 From forming a band of European jazz musicians 470 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,440 as a protest against Brexit... 471 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080 ..to recording an album made entirely 472 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,880 of sounds from the human body, 473 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,800 Matthew's approach to music has never been conventional. 474 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,560 Pushing ideas of storytelling to the limit is a big part of what he does. 475 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,840 And, in 2010, he recorded the entire life cycle of a pig, 476 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,600 turning the subject of the story into its musical, raw ingredients. 477 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520 So, I've come to his farm in the Kentish countryside 478 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560 to find out more. 479 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000 When you're tinkling away at your piano, staring out the window, 480 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 composing a tune, how did it cross your mind 481 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,520 to make music out of this pig here? 482 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Well, I think that a revolution has happened in music and, actually, 483 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440 with microphones, tape recorders, 484 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880 studios and those kinds of things, we can now make music 485 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,920 out of literally anything that makes a noise. 486 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Well, this guy wants to get on the mic. 487 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,560 He saw the microphone there and said, "I want some of that." 488 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Do you want to hold that? 489 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320 If they ate my phone, you owe me a new one. 490 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,960 I'm not worried about your phone, I'm worried about my finger! 491 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200 NARRATION: OK, so, we've captured some sounds 492 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520 of a very live pig snuffling away. 493 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Now we will encounter a dead one. 494 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680 So, I'll do some bacon. As an American, I need to ask, 495 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,480 will it be crispy and crunchy? 496 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Is that how you'd like it? Well, I... 497 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960 It's my birthright. 498 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,680 Birthright! 499 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,960 So, I'm just recording the sounds of cooking bacon here. 500 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 It's a very simple demonstration for me about storytelling. 501 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560 So, we've got a live pig... Mm-hm. ..and now we've got a dead pig 502 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440 within a little piece of music. 503 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 The dance of life and death! 504 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Yeah! You got me. 505 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,600 But then, er, I'm going to try and write it 506 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000 in about four and a half minutes. Let's give it a rock. 507 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Would it spoil the concept if I were to 508 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,960 borrow your fork for just a second? 509 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 HE BEATS THE PAN RHYTHMICALLY 510 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680 Right, so, we've got this collection of sounds and beats, 511 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240 but how are we going to change these oinks, bangs and sizzles 512 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,440 into a musical story of a pig's life? 513 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640 I just wanted to do it as a very simple exercise 514 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200 to show about storytelling, that just with two noises 515 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720 you can set up a very simple, quick little story. 516 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840 So, over here we have your... 517 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000 STEWART'S PAN DRUMMING PLAYS 518 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,320 ..drumming and then turn it into a sampler instrument. 519 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880 THE SOUNDS WARP SLIGHTLY 520 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320 I haven't actually played any notes, it's still your part. 521 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600 BASS TONES START PLAYING 522 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840 NARRATION: Once you're aware that the notes you're hearing 523 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,200 are actually made out of the subject of the story, 524 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960 the theory is that the music is suffused 525 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920 with an extra special layer of narrative. 526 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360 So, I've made an instrument out of that. 527 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640 It's as if Vaughan Williams made The Lark Ascending 528 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 by throwing larks in the air. 529 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160 Hold it longer and that's actually a pig, but... 530 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880 PIG SNORTS PLAY RHYTHMICALLY 531 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920 I just need to find the right tempo for this. 532 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,400 There you go, look! Triplets against it. 533 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320 HOLLOW BEATS ACCOMPANY THE PIG 534 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,440 THE HOLLOW BEATS ALTERNATE PITCH 535 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560 Then you start to enter the, sort of, slightly more 536 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920 traditional realms of composition, which is like... 537 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760 Melody and pitch? Yeah. 538 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440 We're starting to get normal again, here. Yeah, exactly. 539 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,840 At that point, you have to think, "What is the story we're telling? 540 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,240 "Is it appropriate to take the sound of a live... A once-living animal 541 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760 "and make it... Turn it into bacon...?" Turn it into a gag? 542 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Yeah, it's like, "Is that appropriate, 543 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,880 "is that an appropriate response to the animal's life?" 544 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520 Do you consider this to be storytelling? 545 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,840 I... 546 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,440 I do, yes. The normal thing with a musician or a composer is, 547 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,800 particularly in pop music, 548 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080 is to turn the microphone towards yourself. 549 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,080 The most common word in pop music is "I". 550 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880 "I feel like this, I feel like that. You did this to me." 551 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,840 For me, I guess, over the last 30 years, 552 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440 I've realised, actually, I'm much more interested in turning 553 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400 the microphone away from me and recording what's out there. 554 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160 For me, this is all storytelling, this is all pulling at 555 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,920 threads of the world around me and the universe to try and work 556 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,560 out how it fits together and how we can organise ourselves differently. 557 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200 I'm impressed by Matthew's experimentation and this is 558 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,160 a work in progress, but there is no denying his music is pretty high 559 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,440 concept, and like so much conceptual art, if you didn't know the story 560 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,840 of how it was made, I'm not sure you could tell from the outcome. 561 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040 It's an exercise in form, not emotion. 562 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,520 And most of us probably prefer our musical narratives a little 563 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,640 more explicit. 564 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560 So, it's lyrics that help musicians create the biggest hits 565 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360 and tell the most memorable stories. 566 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,680 # You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar 567 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440 # When I met you 568 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,760 # I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around 569 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320 # Turned you into someone new 570 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,320 # Don't, don't you want me 571 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,440 # You know I can't believe it when I hear that you won't see me 572 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360 # Don't... # 573 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440 The relationship of lyrics and music is very symbiotic. 574 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,320 A poem can exist without music and music can exist without lyrics. 575 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,640 But they sure do rock together. 576 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,840 MUSIC: An Englishman In New York by Sting 577 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,840 Humanity has always loved having its stories dramatised by music, 578 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,800 giving it emotional impact, and to explain, 579 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,000 to unravel how these two elements work together, I know just the guy. 580 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,480 Now, I may be just a little biased here, 581 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280 but I think Sting is a pretty good storyteller. 582 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,760 His combination of lyrics that draw you into a narrative, 583 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,280 and infectious melodies have always impressed me. 584 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,200 We are trying to figure out the relationship between music and text 585 00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,320 and how music supports, and what it contributes to, a message or a story. 586 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,400 My method, the most common method I use, is to write the music first. 587 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Structure it so it already has a narrative shape, beginning, 588 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,440 middle and end. 589 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,880 And all I have to do as the lyricist is to ask the music to tell me 590 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,520 a story. 591 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,720 And be open enough to hear what that story is. 592 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:25,160 So, it's the music that writes the lyrics. 593 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120 And then you just have to fit them in. 594 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,120 It's like a sculptor looks at a piece of stone 595 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,880 and sees a leg there and a bit of a hand there. 596 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920 And you sort of add it up like a jigsaw. 597 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,520 And then you wind up with a song. 598 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,320 It's a fascinating puzzle, and even though I have written 599 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,480 hundreds of songs, I'm still not sure how it's done. 600 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,600 I really, I don't know. 601 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200 If I could press the button now that had a hit song or a good 602 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,080 song, even, I would keep pressing it. 603 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,120 Your finger would be on that button. 604 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360 # Giant steps are what you take 605 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,680 # Walking on the moon 606 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,120 # I hope my legs don't break... # 607 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200 I've performed with this guy all over the world 608 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,240 and he's written more hit songs than I can remember 609 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,000 and apparently than even he can remember. 610 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,280 One of your tricks as a songwriter is bait 611 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,280 and switch, we can call it. And the most famous example is... 612 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,120 "Who, moi?" 613 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,320 The most famous example is Every Breath You Take, 614 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 which on the surface is a cheerful song about love... 615 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640 I wrote Every Breath You Take on the back of the bus. 616 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840 We were driving from Dusseldorf to Frankfurt or 617 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,040 somewhere on the autobahn. 618 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,080 You must have been driving, or Kim, and I came up with this. 619 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640 And went, "Whoa, hey! 620 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,280 "I've got something!" That's not Every Breath You Take. 621 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:51,720 No... It's... What is it? Message In A... Message In A Bottle. 622 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,400 I remember that. 623 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,760 Anyway, back to Every Breath You Take. 624 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,760 This song has serenaded weddings, first kisses 625 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,160 and romantic moments the world over. 626 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,760 # Every breath you take... # 627 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680 But the tale Sting is spinning goes deeper. 628 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,800 The haunting chords draw you in, 629 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,080 so you hardly notice the sinister lyric. 630 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,800 # I'll be watching you... # 631 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,040 Every breath you take has a kind of patina of being 632 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,000 romantic and soft and squishy. But it's also about surveillance. 633 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000 And the chords are dark. The chords are dark. Yes. 634 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 The chords tell you... You know, who are you going to believe? I love ambiguity. 635 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000 I'm fascinated by that, that ambiguity that, as you say, 636 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,720 a bait and switch job. 637 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,240 It's more interesting. 638 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,480 There's nothing more boring than an "I love you and you love me" song. 639 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,240 Although folks love that. I'm not sure they do. It's a closed loop. 640 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,240 It's kind of smug and... You can't join in. 641 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,120 But I love you and you love somebody else is a three-dimensional problem. 642 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800 Suddenly, you start to hurt. It's a drama. It's a drama. 643 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,600 Sometimes you write and you can feel that you're writing about you. 644 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,080 Other times, sometimes, when I feel that this is 645 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,680 you you are talking about, you put some other person as the subject. 646 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,200 You may be right. 647 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,800 You may be right, although that's my process to take it out from me 648 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,760 and objectify it, somehow. And control it, therefore. 649 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,720 We're talking about jealousy, we're talking about very dark human 650 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,320 emotions, you don't really want to own them that much. 651 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,440 Put it on someone else. 652 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000 It's good therapy to put it on an imaginary person. 653 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,760 Storytelling, it helps me, I'm trying to make sense of my world. 654 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,240 But you also, by accident, might be making sense for other people, too. 655 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,880 Which I never really anticipated. 656 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,480 That's what good songs can do. 657 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880 Whether they're brand-new or very, very old. 658 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,400 Believe it or not, Sting started his career in folk clubs like this, 659 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,080 singing traditional songs to contemporary audiences. 660 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,120 And this was one of his earliest influences, Martin Carthy. 661 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,720 # A fine young man, it was indeed 662 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,080 # Mounted on his milk white steed 663 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,880 # Rode and he rode and he rode all alone 664 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,200 # Until he came to lovely Joan... # 665 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,440 I think a hugely important step to becoming a songwriter myself 666 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,440 was the learning those folk songs and how they were formed 667 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,200 and what they were singing about. 668 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440 Often they would sing about mining disasters, 669 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,240 or working-class concerns. 670 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,080 Or, older folktales from a much older tradition, 671 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,680 magical stories about witchcraft and spells. 672 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,120 I sang in folk clubs, learned the Martin Carthy canon 673 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,960 and he was the man who brought Scarborough Fair into the world. 674 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,920 And Martin Carthy'd play... 675 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,480 # Are you going to Scarborough fair? 676 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,720 # Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme... # 677 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,800 # Remember me to one who lives there 678 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,760 # She once was a true love of mine. # 679 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,760 Simon and Garfunkel's version of Scarborough Fair has become 680 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,880 an essential part of the story of 1960s America. 681 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,600 But the original author of the ancient English song is unknown. 682 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840 Many different versions exist. 683 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,720 Paul Simon first heard Martin Carthy's version 684 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,280 when he was on tour in England in the early 1960s... 685 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,200 ..and famously borrowed it without giving credit, until many years later. 686 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360 But Martin is still playing it, in a new arrangement of this 687 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,480 traditional song. 688 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,480 # Are you going to Scarborough fair? 689 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,720 # Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme 690 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,520 # Remember me to a lass who lives there 691 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,000 # For once, she was a true lover of mine. # 692 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,520 It became my song, if you like. 693 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,880 Bob Dylan picked up on it and loved it and ran with it, 694 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,400 and Paul Simon learned it and he and Art Garfunkel had a big hit with it. 695 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,240 It's a traditional song. 696 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520 As young people in the mid-1960s tried to make sense of a grim, 697 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,720 turbulent future, they looked back to the past, 698 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,760 to folk music for a soundtrack and songs evoking a simpler time. 699 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,040 If you want to find out about history from ordinary people, 700 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,960 look at the songs they sang. 701 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,120 Hut, 2, 3 and... 702 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,520 Music keeps stories alive, and not just in England. 703 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680 When slavery brought people from Africa to the Americas, 704 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,080 music helped preserve their culture, their language and their stories. 705 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,960 SHE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE 706 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,200 French Cuban sisters Lisa Kainde and Naomi Diaz - better known as Ibeyi - 707 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,160 often perform in the language 708 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,920 and musical traditions of the Yoruba people from Africa, 709 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,840 a language they only speak when singing. 710 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,280 SHE SINGS IN YORUBA 711 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,960 An ancient Yoruba melody, no doubt? Oh, yes, it is. 712 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,440 It comes from Benin in Nigeria, and when the slaves were shipped to Cuba. 713 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,520 And they were shipped to Brazil and... 714 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520 Brazil, and Puerto Rico and America. 715 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:58,160 Those slaves kind of kept their song alive 716 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,080 and kept the tradition alive, making sure that those songs would 717 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920 remain and they remained in the culture. 718 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,960 And we are French Cuban, we grew up listening to Yoruba chants. 719 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,680 It's such an important part of our culture, of our beliefs. 720 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,920 How is it that the songs have kept Yoruba culture alive, 721 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120 as opposed to just stories? 722 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,600 Why does music make the story last longer, have more dramatic effect? 723 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,720 The melody, the rhythm, you know, it's things that connect with 724 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:31,240 more people than just the voice or someone saying something. 725 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,400 Can you play some of your songs that take us...? 726 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,080 This song is For Elegua, and in the Yoruba beliefs, 727 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,080 Elegua is the God that opens and closes the path. 728 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,040 # Bara suayo 729 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:54,320 # Omonia lawana mama kenirawo e 730 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,480 # Bara suayo 731 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,800 # Omonia lawana mama kenirawo e. # 732 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,840 But Ibeyi don't just sing in Yoruba. 733 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,680 One of Lisa and Naomi's most powerful songs tells a more local 734 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,320 story in English. 735 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,280 # He said, he said 736 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,920 # Do you smoke? 737 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000 # What's your name? # 738 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,360 The song Deathless demonstrates how music can provide catharsis, 739 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,240 and comment on stuff happening right now. 740 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,840 It comes out of an experience Lisa had as a teenager at the hands 741 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,120 of French police. 742 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400 # We are deathless 743 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520 # We are deathless 744 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,120 I was 15, I was 16, but I had an Afro and an overall, and I don't know, they thought, 745 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,720 "Oh, she's a drug dealer." And they took my bag, they threw it on the floor. 746 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:57,440 They talked, like, 3 cm from my face. Like really if I was a criminal. 747 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680 So, the women did what songwriters can do - 748 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,200 they decided to capture and share their story in music. 749 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,760 # Do you smoke? 750 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,760 # What's your name? 751 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,640 # Do you know why I'm here? 752 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:17,040 # Innocent, sweet 16, frozen with fear. # 753 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,160 If you had said to an audience, say after me, "We are deathless" 754 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,640 and spoke it without rhythm, without melody, 755 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,120 do you think it would have the same power? No. 756 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,600 There's such an amazing power in rhythm, 757 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,480 such an amazing power in repetition, because 758 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,360 if you say it once it's not the same as if you say it five times. 759 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,680 You need to repeat it and every time you repeat it, it becomes truer, 760 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,160 and stronger, and you believe in it more. That's exactly it. 761 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160 The first time they say, "We are deathless," they think it's cute. 762 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680 Because they are dancing and bouncing and the rhythm 763 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,680 and it's fun. 764 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,480 We're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't want cute. 765 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840 "We want this. 766 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,800 "We want you to use it and we want your true energy 767 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,160 "and we want you to use that thing you have. 768 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,840 "We don't want you to just have fun, this is your moment." 769 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,560 # Whatever happens 770 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,160 # Whatever happens 771 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,920 # Oh, hey 772 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,080 # We are deathless. # 773 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480 Music has always been a way to grab the mic. 774 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920 # You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge... # 775 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960 To tell stories that might otherwise be ignored. 776 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,600 And perhaps the best example of this is hip-hop. 777 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,280 # Straight out of Compton, crazy motherfucker named Ice Cube 778 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,880 # From a gang called Niggaz Wit Attitude 779 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440 # When I'm called off, I got a sawed off 780 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,680 # Squeeze the trigger and bodies are hauled off. # 781 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,920 40 years old and still the most consumed pop 782 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,120 music on the planet, accounting for one quarter of all music sales 783 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,240 and streams. 784 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,880 That's a lot of stories getting told in words and beats. 785 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200 Regarded as one of the best storytellers in rap music, 786 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,280 Talib Kweli has grown up in this culture and seen it go thoroughly mainstream. 787 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,360 How are you? How you feeling? Good to see you. Good to be here in your town in Brooklyn. 788 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,440 Welcome home. 789 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,720 # Yeah... # 790 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:23,720 His track Get By became an anthem for a generation of hip-hop fans. 791 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,440 # We sell crack to our own out the back of our homes 792 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,120 # We smell the musk at the dusk in the crack of the dawn 793 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,760 # We go through "Episodes II" like "Attack of the Clones" 794 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,040 # Work till we break our back and you hear the crack of the bone... # 795 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,680 The stories he's telling shine the light on the struggling 796 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,280 within his own neighbourhood. 797 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,920 # We commute to computers 798 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,080 # Spirits stay mute, while you eagles spread rumours 799 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120 # We survivalists, turned to consumers 800 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,880 # Just to get by, just to get by 801 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,320 # Just to get by, just to get by... # 802 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,400 That song is about people who are doing whatever 803 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,240 they have to do to survive. 804 00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,840 That song is about survival. 805 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,400 Even if just to survive, they've got to shoot themselves in the foot. 806 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,160 Were you singing about yourself, or about what you saw around you? 807 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,880 Were you in that position of being driven by desperation 808 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,400 to do things like that? 809 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,880 No, I have never been driven by desperation to have to do 810 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,480 something illegal to survive. 811 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,760 I've been blessed to not have to be in that position. 812 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,520 But I certainly have lived in, for half of my life, 813 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,520 I lived in communities where people had to do those things. 814 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640 Not in my home, but the home right next door to me. 815 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,160 So, I was speaking about the community in general, 816 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440 and the video for that and everything about the song 817 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,800 is about community, Get By is a rallying cry for a community. 818 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600 Music has carried stories like this 819 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,800 right around the world into the top of the charts. 820 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,920 Tales of African-American life that might never have been heard 821 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,320 otherwise. 822 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,280 Why do you suppose it is that music brings power to whatever 823 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,040 story you're trying to tell? 824 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,520 I've heard it said, I could make 1,000 speeches, 825 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,920 one good song could convey that better than 1,000 speeches. 826 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480 It's absolutely right. Music is our last... 827 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080 Especially for marginalised people and poor people, particularly, 828 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,800 music leaves the realm of art that you just appreciate on the wall, 829 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400 or there's a nice song in the background and you like the melody. 830 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,880 It leaves that realm and goes into the practical 831 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,560 realm of a necessary, natural resource to tell our story. 832 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,880 It becomes necessary to your blueprint, to your DNA. 833 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,680 We're made up of our memories, people attach memories to music. 834 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,400 There's things that you did on the drum that are part of my DNA, 835 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,960 because those records were playing when I was a little kid. 836 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,720 That's why people who grow up, nothing is better than 837 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,280 the music they heard when they were in high school and college, 838 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,640 because they've attached that music to their memories. 839 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,200 Nothing could be better. 840 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,840 This makes total sense to me. 841 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,840 I think this is why music is the best way to remember stories. 842 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,760 But I'm just guessing. 843 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,160 What's the science? 844 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,160 Will a human brain remember something better 845 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,200 if it has an emotional charge? Absolutely. 846 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,720 The things that we care the most about are the ones that have a 847 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:21,240 privileged position for memory storage and for memory retrieval. 848 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:26,040 And music makes us care, so therefore it makes us remember? 849 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,680 Yes, this is one of the most robust principles of the cognitive 850 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,400 neuroscience of human memory. 851 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,280 It turns out that when we care about a piece of music, 852 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,320 our ability to identify and remember a sequence, its basic narrative 853 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,080 structure, is pretty powerful, even when it's heavily disguised. 854 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,320 I thought we could try some experiments to demonstrate 855 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,800 musical memory. 856 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,240 He wants to see what I can recognise. And listen carefully, 857 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,640 because it is pretty short. 858 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,960 Sounds like a chord I use all the time. 859 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,880 From one of my own scores. 860 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,440 That's Stravinsky, Rites of Spring. Yes! 861 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,520 Or, yeah... Yes, it is. 862 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,240 And that's why I use that chord a lot, because I nicked it from Uncle Igor. 863 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,920 Just one chord is a mnemonic for a whole musical story. 864 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,760 A hook, sure, but also kind of a shorthand. 865 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,280 That texture is very Stravinskyan. 866 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,600 Yes. Nice job. Now, here is a piece of music that I have reversed. 867 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120 MUSIC PLAYS 868 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,960 Well, it sounds like Sting. 869 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,960 Does Everyone Stare The Way I Do? Yes. Surprising, isn't it? 870 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,240 That is surprising. Even though I wrote that song. 871 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,400 So, here is the operation that happened in your brain. 872 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,440 Your eardrums are wiggling in and out from the molecular motion 873 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,920 created by the speaker. 874 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,520 They start off a neurochemical chain of events that ends up invoking your 875 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,320 auditory cortex, and in the auditory cortex, 876 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200 the pitches and the rhythms and the timbres are processed 877 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:12,200 in different special processing circuits, and then your brain starts 878 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,680 looking for what computer scientists would call a template match. 879 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160 What is it that fits this particular arrangement of pitches 880 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,640 and rhythms and timbres? 881 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,720 Your brain then had to say, "Wait a minute, it's backwards, 882 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,360 "but it's still a match." 883 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560 And your brain did it in a couple of seconds. 884 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,400 In a couple of seconds, the brain can recognise musical structure 885 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,280 and remember the story it's telling. 886 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,000 And the people trying to sell us stuff know this all too well. 887 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,040 Consumer brands are really little more than stories that, 888 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,760 corporations want us to believe and these, too, can be set to music. 889 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,560 Last up on round would be Old Ma Peggoty's place. 890 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,120 Director Ridley Scott knew this in 1973 when he used Dvorak's 891 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,600 New World Symphony to create Britain's favourite ever TV commercial. 892 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,760 I knew baker'd have kettle on 893 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,080 doorsteps of hot Hovis ready. 894 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,280 "There's wheat germ in that loaf," he'd say. "Get it inside you, boy." 895 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,160 "You'll be going up that hill as fast as you come down." 896 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,880 Hovis still has many times more wheatgerm than ordinary bread. 897 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,200 It's... 898 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,760 But 47 years later, we like our musical brand messaging shorter. 899 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,200 Much shorter. 900 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,640 And Walter Werzowa is the creator of one of the shortest 901 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,800 anywhere in the world. 902 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,200 So, what is your thing? My little thing, it doesn't take too long... 903 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,320 Play me your hit. 904 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,160 I recognise that. 905 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,040 The Intel bongs! 906 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,120 It's a highly memorable distillation of a company's whole 907 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,240 story in as few notes as possible. 908 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,640 Let's be bold. OK. One note. 909 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,760 Combinations like these pair logos like Xbox, McDonald's, or 910 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,400 Netflix with short musical phrases to tell a brand's story in seconds. 911 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,160 So, have you no shame, Sir? 912 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,240 That this wonderful attribute of humanity has been put to use 913 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:22,920 to sell product. 914 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,320 How do you feel about the fact that this wonderful thing of music can be 915 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,920 exploited by flinty-eyed people who want to sell stuff? 916 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,240 Last night I was praying that you would not ask me that question. 917 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,360 I, basically, enjoy writing music. 918 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,680 Writing music is the greatest thing. It's what you're going to do anyway. 919 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,280 So, how did you go about selling a computer chip? 920 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,520 It definitely, looking back, was the toughest assignment I ever had. 921 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,720 For the first time I heard creatives talk about brand attributes, 922 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,560 those things like the chronology and the faction. 923 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,360 You're nodding your head sagely like you know exactly what they're 924 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,800 talking about. "Shit, what is he talking about?" 925 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,240 All this incredible branding verbiage. 926 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:11,440 And, yes, of course, I can do technology and positiveness. 927 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,840 Emotional stuff is easier, as you know, that's what 928 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,160 we do with music, that's what we instinctively do. 929 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,840 It was not easy, especially when I walked home 930 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:27,000 and I thought, "Three seconds!" It's no time to come up with a full 931 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,680 musical piece in three seconds, it's just almost impossible. 932 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,320 So, I played around on the piano, nothing worked really well, 933 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,320 on the guitar, listened to music... 934 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,240 Thought, "I need to steal something great," I listened from The Beatles 935 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,120 and Rolling Stones and everything, and nothing really worked. 936 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,960 Finally, I saw the board again and read Intel Inside, 937 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,960 and thought, if this were lyrics to a song, it has four notes. 938 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,160 Tell me, the mental equipment that we have in our brains 939 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,800 that we are born with, to understand music, 940 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,480 storytelling is a part of it, to make a story 941 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,520 happen, storytelling and music are so intertwined. 942 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680 But down to three seconds. 943 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,120 What do you think? Is three notes, really... It's a mnemonic, 944 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000 is a mnemonic a story with a beginning and a middle and an end? 945 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,280 What do you think? 946 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,760 There is a beginning, middle and end that are carefully constructed. 947 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,240 Let's start with the end. 948 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,920 If this thing doesn't have a ring out, if this would 949 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,040 sound like this... 950 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,200 SHORT PERCUSSIVE NOTE 951 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,120 ..you would think this was a little company. 952 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,440 If it ends like this... 953 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,360 RINGING PERCUSSIVE NOTE 954 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,480 ..and has a little sustain, you need the ring out. Or a fade-out. 955 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,960 OK, actually, maybe, maybe... I'm wrong here. 956 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,680 The beginning... 957 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,560 Yep. We've set up a whole world of emotion there of... 958 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,600 And then we have our plot development. 959 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,960 That's our action and then we end up with a happy ending. 960 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,280 Yep. Happy ending. And so the beginning... 961 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,920 ..middle... 962 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,520 ..end. 963 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,240 Three parts. 964 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:14,560 I give it up, it's a story, in three seconds you have told a story. 965 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,880 Wagner needed nine hours. 966 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,840 Yeah, I tried to talk to him, but he didn't take my calls. No. 967 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,200 MUSIC: Flight Of the Valkyries by Wagner 968 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,800 Music's direct connection to our subconscious is its superpower. 969 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,360 Walter knows this and so did Wagner. 970 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,760 And so does every other musician and composer who has ever lived. 971 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,720 Music may have been the first language. 972 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,840 Before we formed words, we made sound. 973 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,520 Somebody can pitch a note. A high one and then a low one is actually telling a story. 974 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,560 Try something really simple here. 975 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,120 I think different music 976 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,760 and sound speaks to different people in wildly different ways. 977 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,760 Music is storytelling and narrative, that's what it is for me. 978 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,560 It's like telling other people's stories 979 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720 and trying to make sense of them and trying to hear them in new ways. 980 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,640 Trying to use music at the service of those stories. 981 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,000 There are so many ways to store and retrieve a musical memory - 982 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,160 the pitch, the contour, the timbre. 983 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,920 We only need one or two of them to help us 984 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,000 remember the story associated with it. 985 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,280 We all like stories. You know, Harry Met Sally, they fell in love, 986 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,160 they fell out of love. 987 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,840 You're not really feeling much, but if that was set to music, 988 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,200 if it was Sting writing a song about that, 989 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,160 your hearts would be broken, you'd be getting married to this, 990 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,360 you'd be on the dance floor gazing into each other's eyes. 991 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,400 Music gives a drama to it, it gives an impulsion to it. 992 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,000 CHEERING 993 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,120 Music somehow takes a story and gives it an emotional impact, 994 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,400 and that's the real thing. 130443

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