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This programme contains very strong
language.
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DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS
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My name is Stewart Copeland.
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I make noise for a living.
I hit things with sticks.
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But I also compose, listen to,
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and have pretty much built a life
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on the strange phenomenon that we
call...
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..music.
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My first recollection of being
captivated by music,
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being enslaved by music, was sitting
in a darkened room, aged seven,
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listening to
Carl Orff's Carmina Burana.
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CARMINA BURANA PLAYS
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Something powerful took hold.
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Some seriously strong mojo which
never let me go.
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It led me through a career in bands
including The Police and beyond.
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What was going on was that the
heart of a seven-year-old was being
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lit up like a bonfire of emotion.
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But why?
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How did music ignite this flame?
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# Girl, you really got me going... #
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What exactly is this stuff that
has ruled my life for more
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than 60 years?
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And that makes everyone else jump
and shout, laugh and cry?
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Shakespeare doesn't do that,
Spielberg doesn't do that,
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Rembrandt doesn't do that.
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So, in this series, I want to find
out more about its mysterious power.
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Why does music bring us together?
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How can it transport us
to a higher plane?
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And in this programme,
what does it do to help us
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understand the stories
that we hear?
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Yeah. That's a great cue!
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# Don't ever set me free
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# I always want to be
by your side... #
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From film scores with Francis Ford
Coppola... Great to see you.
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..to folk songs and old friends.
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Often, they'd sing about magical
stories, you know?
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Witchcraft, spells.
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And from stirring symphonies,
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to a story in just three seconds.
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I recognise that.
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Stewart Copeland.
Film one, take one.
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Music and stories are perfect
partners.
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And they help each other out in
so many ways.
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# Johnny's in the basement
mixing up the medicine
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# I'm on the pavement
thinking about the government
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# The man in a trench coat
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# Badge out laid off
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# Says he's got a bad cough... #
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Whether it's a vintage
piece of Bob Dylan...
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HE SINGS IN GERMAN
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..or a magnificent
slice of Wagnerian opera...
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..music has always helped us
tell stories, setting the tone
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and adding a framework
and emotion to any narrative...
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# My gift is my song, yeah
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# And this one's for you... #
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..especially
when the lyrics tell you stuff
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and the music helps you to feel it.
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# And you can tell everybody
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# This is your song
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# It may be quite simple but
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# Now that it's done
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# I hope you don't mind
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# I hope you don't mind
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# That I put down in words
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# How wonderful life is
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# While you're in the world. #
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But what about
when there are no words at all?
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Music alone can't help
but prompt emotion,
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but what I want to know is, can it
tell an actual story on its own?
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Welcome to New York City
and meet Yun and Hugo.
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We're here because of a heavyweight
bout that started 170 years
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ago in Germany.
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In the red corner, Richard Wagner.
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Wagner wanted the story told
by his music to be precisely the one
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outlined in the programme notes,
hence the name -
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"programme music".
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And in the blue corner,
Johannes Brahms.
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Brahms preferred what
he called "absolute music",
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music for music's sake.
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He believed any story the composer
was trying to tell was not
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so important. And composers have
been arguing about it ever since.
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But I reckon what really matters is
what listeners might think
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when they hear the music with no
idea of the story it was
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designed to tell.
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..little experiment with these
musicians here. Sure! Ready?
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This is Danse Macabre by Camille
Saint-Saens.
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The storyline is this.
It's Halloween.
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And Death is summoning the dead
from their graves to dance for him
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while he plays his fiddle.
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So, let's see how they do.
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Beautiful. Right. Yes.
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Did that one evoke
anything in particular?
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It was, like, really suspenseful.
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It sounded like something you'd
hear in a horror movie, when
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there's like, someone
around the corner and then it
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kind of got lighter and it sounded
like Pirates of the Caribbean.
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That's pretty detailed.
That's a lot of story in there.
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She got more out of it than I did.
I'm sorry. I have to listen again.
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I would say sounds almost mysterious
and a little suspenseful.
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Suspenseful?
Like someone's in a rush, maybe?
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Yeah. Someone's in a rush?
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A race, maybe. A race? Like a chase.
OK, a chase.
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Made me feel pretty anxious,
actually.
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Made you feel anxious? Yeah.
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It seems as if these folks, at
least, make sense of what they're
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hearing by beginning to turn
it into some kind of narrative.
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And even without a clear
storyline, music suggests one.
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And when that occurs,
strange things happen.
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One minute, this guy is listening to
Lark Ascending by Vaughan Williams.
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And the next, it's as if the music
has suggested a story to him,
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in which he proposes
to his girlfriend, and she accepts!
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And by the way, this is real life.
Not a set-up!
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Music is powerful stuff!
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WISTFUL VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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CROWD WHOOPS
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Daniel Levitin is the author of
This Is Your Brain On Music.
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Maybe he can shine some
light on this mysterious force?
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What we've found in the laboratory
is that music activates more
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areas of the brain than language.
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It creates greater
amounts of neural activity,
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more electrical firing in the
brain.
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Some parts of the brain that have
nothing to do with audio, even?
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Yes, exactly.
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It reaches into different crevices
of the brain, if you will,
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and it activates these regions that
you don't get from speech alone.
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It's a lot more engaging for the
brain to have the music there.
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Music is the language of emotion.
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GROUP CLAMOURS
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And that is why music is the best
friend story could ever have.
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Look what happens to a nice day
out at the seaside...
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..when you add John William's
threatening iconic
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score for Steven Spielberg's Jaws.
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MENACING MUSIC PLAYS
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MUSIC CRESCENDOS
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MENACING MUSIC PLAYS
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And imagine Star Wars
without the stirring
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Imperial March by the very
same composer.
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Creating or selecting music
specifically for a particular
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scene mixes its natural narrative
structure and emotional power
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with pictures and sound in a
marriage made in music heaven.
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This is Danny Elfman.
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I'm not an expert boobam player.
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One of the most important and
gifted film composers on the planet
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and, by no accident,
damn fine drummer!
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And if you press the pedal it
acts like a mute.
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His studio is a museum devoted to
movies and musical storytelling...
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..where he wrote brilliant scores
for an amazing range of projects,
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from the Gothic comedy The
Nightmare Before Christmas,
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to the
barnstorming blockbuster Spider-Man.
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And from eccentric oddity
Edward Scissorhands, to the
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infectious tune for a little show
called...
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Which, it is said, took him
just one day to write.
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Not bad.
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SIMPSONS THEME PLAYS
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Above all, he's a storyteller.
He just doesn't use words.
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Yet that's a tradition in cinema
that goes back to the 1930s.
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Why do the directors need this?
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They're telling a perfectly good
story with a perfectly terrifying
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antagonist, a handsome protagonist,
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beautiful love interest.
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Why do they need music?
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Because the music does something
they learned very early on,
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that the pictures couldn't do.
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Take the decidedly lukewarm chills
of early horror movies, for example.
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In the very first Frankenstein
and the first Dracula, no music.
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FRANKENSTEIN GROANS
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All music was in the first
films was opening
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and closing, like a play, and then
they figured out a few years
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later, 1933 and 1935,
"Why don't we take it up a level?"
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If you put this dramatic music, it
really raises the stakes.
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As shown in the pioneering
movie King Kong.
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And if you put something
heartbreaking when, you know,
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your hero or heroine is going to
die, it really raises the stakes.
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As seen in this stirring scene from
The Charge Of The Light Brigade.
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So, who do you think
the audience is going to believe
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and why are they going to believe
not their lying eyes,
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but your minor chord?
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Because they're not thinking about
it and it happens unconsciously.
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Goes straight to their heart?
It goes straight to the heart.
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So, the idea that you see
somebody walking,
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but you hear music that's
disturbing.
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Now, it's not saying this
person is good or bad,
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you're not saying he's evil,
you're not saying this, you're
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saying there's something going
on that's disturbing right now.
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Hitchcock's Vertigo did
this so beautifully.
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Where the score is just expressing
obsessiveness with
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Jimmy Stewart's character.
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He's driving and there's all these
things, he's doing nothing
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but driving. Well,
you could put anything behind it.
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The music is telling us that
he's not just driving,
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he's driving absolutely
obsessed with this woman,
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that there's nothing else that
matters more to him
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in his life than figuring out what
the secret of this woman that
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he's in love with is,
and what is going on around him.
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The music tells you that.
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As I'm with a master of this
dark art,
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I'm dying to see
if he can score something for us,
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and show us how music can actually
tell us what's happening.
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You can sit here, Stewart.
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OK. So, we will demonstrate how
the music can entirely change
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the atmosphere of this handsome guy
walking through what
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looks like the streets of Paris.
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OK.
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Here's a non-descript Joe,
walking down the street,
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and without music,
it kind of lacks a point.
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But there are multiple stories
that these simple images could tell,
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depending on the use of some basic
musical devices. OK.
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So, we start out here as a blank
template.
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OK, I'm going to set a tempo here.
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DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS
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Even a single drumbeat can begin to
tell a story.
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I can feel that tension.
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There's definitely a feeling that
either he's planning
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something illegal or something bad's
about to happen to him.
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Something really simple here.
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Mandatory drone? There you go.
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Something you probably find yourself
having to do is cure bad acting.
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I've never worked with a bad actor.
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I don't know what you're
talking about. Right.
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Oh, a little heroism there.
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Ummm, hopefully not!
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Next, Danny tries dissonance,
a combination of notes
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that are not in harmony
and suggest that something is wrong.
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MUSIC INTENSIFIES
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OK. So, there's generic 101.
That completely nails that. Yeah.
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How about I do the same scene again?
Yeah. But let me do it my way.
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Now, if I were having fun
with this scene...
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Pizzicato, the plucking of strings,
is often a clear
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signal that this will be a playful,
mysterious or mischievous story.
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I'm turning this into something
completely different. Yeah.
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Well, you're adding emotional
layers to it, because
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when you first start playing with
the pizzicato,
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it was straight comedic.
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But now, these other, giving it
more nuance of a black comedy.
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Yes, exactly.
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It's exactly what we're doing here.
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We're giving a little bit like,
"What IS going on in this scene?"
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You're posing a question. Exactly.
Posing a question.
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Put that well.
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TENSE MUSIC
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Yeah, yeah. That's a great cue.
Something's up.
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You just don't know what. Yeah.
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You've taken something
completely neutral
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and given it information,
emotional information. Right.
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So, there you are. It's as easy
as that. Now, that's my day's work.
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I'm going to go home
and enjoy the family for the rest
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of the evening, because that's
a typical day of a film composer.
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You work for about 45 minutes...
That's right, yeah.
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..then we're off.
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Danny's music exploits
our expectations of what will
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happen next -
tension and release,
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and dissonance and resolution
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transform the way
we understand a scene.
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Now, believe it or not,
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I actually spent 20 years of my life
composing for films.
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And it was no less a legend
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than Francis Ford Coppola
who gave me the opportunity to
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write my first score on the
radical teen art flick Rumblefish.
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Francis wanted a rhythm-based
score for his movie,
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and the recording process,
like the film itself, was kind of...
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..free-form.
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Working on that movie with
the maestro was an education,
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a masterclass in music
and composing to visuals.
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It taught me
that sometimes the music,
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as much as the dialogue and acting,
is telling the story.
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But Coppola is as famous
for using found music
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in his movies as much
as custom-written scores.
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Ask me a question.
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What is music and why?
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Cut to what I said. Yeah.
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How come all you guys
sit on your helmets?
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So we don't get our balls blown off.
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HE LAUGHS
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Francis's use of
pre-existing music is a key factor
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in the success of the
extraordinary Apocalypse Now.
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Big Duke 6 to Eagle Thrust.
Put on psy-war-op.
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Make it loud.
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This is a Romeo Foxtrot.
Shall we dance?
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MUSIC: Ride of the Valkyries
by Richard Wagner
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Here is a brilliant example of
what the industry calls needle drop.
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Using the story the piece of music
already carries as a counterpoint
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to what we're seeing now,
creating a whole new narrative.
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Add Wagner to the Vietnam War
and you get thrills, of course,
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but you also get brilliant irony.
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MUSIC CONTINUES
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I've always used music
in an aggressive way.
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And the choice of who's going to do
the music for me is never,
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"Oh, I'm going to get
my long-time composer
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"and he's just going
to do a score."
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I always have a kind of concept
of how I want the music to function.
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The couple of instances
where you have really used
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music dramatically is
where you pull it out.
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In Apocalypse Now,
the famous use of the Valkyries,
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where it's really thrashing away.
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RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES CONTINUES
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Cut to the village. Silence.
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DOGS BARK
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You know, with sound in particular,
contrast is very important.
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So, if you just have bombastic loud
music all the time, it starts
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to be monotonous.
Like sound effects, too.
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So, you try to always,
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you're always trying to
pose opposites and use silence.
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Silence is very powerful.
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Silence is a very
powerful sound, you know,
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especially when you've been
hearing a lot of sound
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and suddenly you pull it out,
but you really feel it gone.
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RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES CONTINUES
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BABY CRIES
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Coppola uses music as
a formal narrative device,
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not just as mood-setting
accompaniment.
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And this seminal scene
from The Godfather
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is about as good as it gets.
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With the baptism scene, it starts
like baptism music, with these
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nice major chords,
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and then suddenly, when the
bad stuff starts to go down,
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it cuts to this very dark
piece of... I think it's Bach.
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Michael, do you believe in God,
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the Father Almighty,
Creator of Heaven and Earth?
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I do.
Do you believe in Jesus Christ...?
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What happened with that is
we had cut that sequence not to
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any music, and originally the book
had 50 pages of revenge on all
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of the various opposing families.
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And I had the idea to intercut
it all with the baptism,
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basically as a way of,
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"How do you get 50 pages of a
novel into five minutes of movie?"
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You know, I had to shorten it.
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So, I wrote it that way
in the screenplay
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and it didn't work at all.
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One of the editors, Peter Zinner,
just added this organ music
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which he got, and suddenly
the whole sequence worked.
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Michael Francis Rizzi,
do you renounce Satan?
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DRAMATIC ORGAN MUSIC
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I do renounce him.
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I remember being astounded,
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because I was worried about
what was wrong with my idea.
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Conceptually it was great, he was
becoming the Godfather and he was,
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you know, doing all these diabolical
things, but it didn't work.
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And it was only when Peter Zinner
cut that organ music in it
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that it worked.
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In a scene lasting nearly six
minutes, there are only a few short
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lines of dialogue,
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but there's a lot for us,
the audience, to take in.
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To move the story along,
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the church music is used in
juxtaposition with the mob violence.
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But how? What in our human brains
is going on?
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How does wordless music give
us so much information?
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Elizabeth Margulis directs
the Music Cognition Lab
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here at Princeton University.
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She's spent her career
trying to understand
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how our brains are
affected by music
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and the mechanics of how
it helps to tell stories.
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Now, we might say that a piece of
music we love really speaks to us.
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So, maybe the idea of language
is a good place to start.
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Humans seem to have a
fundamental need to make
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sense of the world through stories.
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There's no such
thing as abstract music, right?
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Music carries with it these
signatures of where it comes from
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and who does it, and all that is
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an important part
of how people hear it.
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So, one of the things we're
interested in is what's
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happening from moment to moment
while people are listening.
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So, if you want to understand
musical syntax, it might help to
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understand how each, you know,
moment sounds.
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Not just the whole overall piece.
What do you mean by musical syntax?
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So, if you think about
syntax in language,
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you think about grammar, right?
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And how things
are structured together,
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and that this clause is
dependent on this one,
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and if you think about syntax
in speech, right, if I say,
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"Linda eats broccoli",
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that's really different than,
"Broccoli eats Linda".
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Right? Mm-hm.
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So, similarly, the way you string
together these various notes
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and these various chords
with these different functions
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can impact where you feel.
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You know, you can use
the same notes,
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put them in a different
order and really
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create a completely different path
through this tension space. Mm-hm.
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Like, "Oh, this note doesn't
normally go to that note,
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"we went there, what's going on?
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"Something interesting is
happening." Exactly.
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# Satan
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# Sitting there
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# He's smiling... #
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When Ozzy Osbourne plays with
our sense of expectation,
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when a melody is expected to go
somewhere nice
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but goes...wrong...
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# Watches those flames
get higher and higher... #
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We feel the dissonance.
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# Oh, no, no,
please, God, help me... #
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This example is called
the devil's tritone.
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Gustav Holst famously used
it in his Mars Suite.
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And the lack of expected
resolution just sounds dangerous.
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And that tells a story of its own.
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So, the idea with music is
that you can use, you know,
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musical syntax, you can use this
kind of organisation to build
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tension as you're listening,
so the music seems like it's getting
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tenser, and then like it's relaxing
and dissipating that tension.
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Silence creates great tension.
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Yeah, like... That's what reggae is
all about. Right.
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STEWART MIMICS REGGAE INSTRUMENTS
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So, in the same way that reordering
words in a sentence
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changes the meaning of what's being
said,
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reordering notes, creating pauses
and silence,
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and playing with our expectations of
what comes next
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can really affect the story being
told.
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And that's not all.
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The convention, in the West at
least,
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is that a major key is happy...
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ORCHESTRA PLAYS BOUNCILY
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..and a minor key is sad.
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ORCHESTRA PLAYS MOURNFULLY
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All of these conventions of music
are part of a composer's toolkit,
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and I for one have been using them
in film music for years.
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But that doesn't mean the rules
can't all be broken.
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Caroline Shaw is one of the most
exciting composers
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in the new classical scene.
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She won the Pulitzer Prize for music
in 2013
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for this stunning piece of vocal
music,
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Partita For Eight Voices.
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MUSIC: Partita For Eight Voices
by Caroline Shaw
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So far, so conventional.
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But all kinds of rules are about to
be broken,
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or at least stress-tested by this
piece.
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VOCAL LINES START TO MIX
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There are conventions of
storytelling
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and use of music in storytelling.
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Music will take a tale and give it
emotional power.
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I suspect you do not observe these
conventions faithfully.
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No, you can always take a rule
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and some kind of convention
like that in a frame and then...
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..break it. Mm-hm.
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Either from the bottom
or from the side or from behind.
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And make something that tells
that story and does
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what you want it to do in an oblique
way,
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but much more effectively. Mm-hm.
That's what I've found.
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Or you're not trying to tell any
particular story at all,
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but you organise the elements
that you have, erm,
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in a narrative way, and that,
sort of,
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can lead someone who's experiencing
that thing
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to a particular conclusion,
which may just be a gut feeling.
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MUSIC: Plan and Elevation: IV. The
Orangery by Caroline Shaw
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This is one of Caroline's latest
pieces,
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Plan And Elevation: IV. The Orangery
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performed by the Attacca Quartet.
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From austere and strange to
heart-stoppingly beautiful,
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Caroline's music is a full-on
narrative of pure emotion.
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Who needs words?
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There's something about writing
a piece for a string quartet
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or orchestra, just instruments,
where I feel, like,
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I'm just trying to write a story for
people.
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There is nothing else there.
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You think about foreground and
background
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and colour and narrative and pacing
and space... Mm-hm.
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..and all of those things,
sort of, elevation of pitch
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and quality of speaking, all those
things can be, sort of,
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funnelled into a piece of music
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and they come out the other end
in some way that I can't quite trace
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the relationship. So, you have a
broad definition of story?
461
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Broad definition of story. OK. Sure.
462
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,880
Units of things that are organised
in a particular way
463
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,080
where you can follow them and be
invested in them, I guess.
464
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Well, I guess that's one definition
of story.
465
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,320
But there are others out there,
if you know where to look.
466
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,880
The avant-garde is always looking
for new ways to tell tales.
467
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Matthew Herbert is one of Britain's
foremost experimental
468
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520
and esoteric musicians.
469
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,480
From forming a band of European jazz
musicians
470
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,440
as a protest against Brexit...
471
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080
..to recording an album made
entirely
472
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,880
of sounds from the human body,
473
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Matthew's approach to music has
never been conventional.
474
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Pushing ideas of storytelling to the
limit is a big part of what he does.
475
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,840
And, in 2010, he recorded
the entire life cycle of a pig,
476
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,600
turning the subject of the story
into its musical, raw ingredients.
477
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520
So, I've come to his farm
in the Kentish countryside
478
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560
to find out more.
479
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000
When you're tinkling away at your
piano, staring out the window,
480
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240
composing a tune, how did it cross
your mind
481
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,520
to make music out of this pig here?
482
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Well, I think that a revolution has
happened in music and, actually,
483
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440
with microphones, tape recorders,
484
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
studios and those kinds of things,
we can now make music
485
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,920
out of literally anything
that makes a noise.
486
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Well, this guy wants to get on the
mic.
487
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,560
He saw the microphone there and
said, "I want some of that."
488
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Do you want to hold that?
489
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320
If they ate my phone, you owe me a
new one.
490
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,960
I'm not worried about your phone,
I'm worried about my finger!
491
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200
NARRATION: OK, so, we've captured
some sounds
492
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520
of a very live pig snuffling away.
493
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Now we will encounter a dead one.
494
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680
So, I'll do some bacon. As an
American, I need to ask,
495
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,480
will it be crispy and crunchy?
496
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760
Is that how you'd like it?
Well, I...
497
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
It's my birthright.
498
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,680
Birthright!
499
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,960
So, I'm just recording the sounds of
cooking bacon here.
500
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760
It's a very simple demonstration
for me about storytelling.
501
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560
So, we've got a live pig... Mm-hm.
..and now we've got a dead pig
502
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440
within a little piece of music.
503
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560
The dance of life and death!
504
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Yeah! You got me.
505
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,600
But then, er, I'm going to try and
write it
506
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000
in about four and a half minutes.
Let's give it a rock.
507
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Would it spoil the concept if I
were to
508
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,960
borrow your fork for just a second?
509
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160
HE BEATS THE PAN RHYTHMICALLY
510
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680
Right, so, we've got this collection
of sounds and beats,
511
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
but how are we going to change these
oinks, bangs and sizzles
512
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,440
into a musical story of a pig's
life?
513
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
I just wanted to do it as a very
simple exercise
514
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200
to show about storytelling, that
just with two noises
515
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720
you can set up a very simple, quick
little story.
516
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840
So, over here we have your...
517
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000
STEWART'S PAN DRUMMING PLAYS
518
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,320
..drumming and then turn
it into a sampler instrument.
519
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
THE SOUNDS WARP SLIGHTLY
520
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320
I haven't actually played any notes,
it's still your part.
521
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600
BASS TONES START PLAYING
522
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840
NARRATION: Once you're aware that
the notes you're hearing
523
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,200
are actually made out of the subject
of the story,
524
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960
the theory is that the music is
suffused
525
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920
with an extra special layer of
narrative.
526
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360
So, I've made an instrument out of
that.
527
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640
It's as if Vaughan Williams made
The Lark Ascending
528
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160
by throwing larks in the air.
529
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160
Hold it longer and that's actually a
pig, but...
530
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,880
PIG SNORTS PLAY RHYTHMICALLY
531
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920
I just need to find the right
tempo for this.
532
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,400
There you go, look! Triplets against
it.
533
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
HOLLOW BEATS ACCOMPANY THE PIG
534
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,440
THE HOLLOW BEATS ALTERNATE PITCH
535
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Then you start to enter the, sort
of, slightly more
536
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920
traditional realms of composition,
which is like...
537
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Melody and pitch? Yeah.
538
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440
We're starting to get normal again,
here. Yeah, exactly.
539
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,840
At that point, you have to think,
"What is the story we're telling?
540
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,240
"Is it appropriate to take
the sound of a live... A once-living
animal
541
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760
"and make it... Turn it into
bacon...?" Turn it into a gag?
542
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Yeah, it's like, "Is that
appropriate,
543
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,880
"is that an appropriate
response to the animal's life?"
544
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Do you consider this to be
storytelling?
545
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,840
I...
546
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,440
I do, yes. The normal thing with
a musician or a composer is,
547
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,800
particularly in pop music,
548
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
is to turn the microphone
towards yourself.
549
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,080
The most common
word in pop music is "I".
550
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880
"I feel like this, I feel like that.
You did this to me."
551
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,840
For me, I guess,
over the last 30 years,
552
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440
I've realised, actually, I'm much
more interested in turning
553
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,400
the microphone away from me
and recording what's out there.
554
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160
For me, this is all storytelling,
this is all pulling at
555
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,920
threads of the world around me
and the universe to try and work
556
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,560
out how it fits together and how we
can organise ourselves differently.
557
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200
I'm impressed by Matthew's
experimentation and this is
558
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,160
a work in progress, but there is no
denying his music is pretty high
559
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,440
concept, and like so much conceptual
art, if you didn't know the story
560
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,840
of how it was made, I'm not sure you
could tell from the outcome.
561
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
It's an exercise in form,
not emotion.
562
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,520
And most of us probably prefer
our musical narratives a little
563
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,640
more explicit.
564
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560
So, it's lyrics that help musicians
create the biggest hits
565
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
and tell the most memorable stories.
566
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,680
# You were working as a waitress
in a cocktail bar
567
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440
# When I met you
568
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,760
# I picked you out,
I shook you up and turned you around
569
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320
# Turned you into someone new
570
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,320
# Don't, don't you want me
571
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,440
# You know I can't believe it
when I hear that you won't see me
572
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360
# Don't... #
573
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440
The relationship of lyrics
and music is very symbiotic.
574
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,320
A poem can exist without music
and music can exist without lyrics.
575
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,640
But they sure do rock together.
576
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,840
MUSIC: An Englishman In New York
by Sting
577
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,840
Humanity has always loved having its
stories dramatised by music,
578
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,800
giving it emotional impact,
and to explain,
579
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,000
to unravel how these two elements
work together, I know just the guy.
580
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,480
Now, I may be just a little
biased here,
581
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280
but I think Sting is a pretty
good storyteller.
582
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,760
His combination of lyrics that draw
you into a narrative,
583
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,280
and infectious melodies have
always impressed me.
584
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,200
We are trying to figure out the
relationship between music and text
585
00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,320
and how music supports, and what it
contributes to, a message or a
story.
586
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,400
My method, the most common method
I use, is to write the music first.
587
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Structure it so it already has
a narrative shape, beginning,
588
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,440
middle and end.
589
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,880
And all I have to do as the lyricist
is to ask the music to tell me
590
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,520
a story.
591
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,720
And be open enough to hear
what that story is.
592
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:25,160
So, it's
the music that writes the lyrics.
593
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120
And then you just have to
fit them in.
594
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,120
It's like a sculptor
looks at a piece of stone
595
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,880
and sees a leg there
and a bit of a hand there.
596
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920
And you sort of add it
up like a jigsaw.
597
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,520
And then you wind up with a song.
598
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,320
It's a fascinating puzzle,
and even though I have written
599
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,480
hundreds of songs,
I'm still not sure how it's done.
600
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,600
I really, I don't know.
601
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200
If I could press the button now that
had a hit song or a good
602
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,080
song, even, I would keep pressing
it.
603
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Your finger would be on that button.
604
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
# Giant steps are what you take
605
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,680
# Walking on the moon
606
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,120
# I hope my legs don't break... #
607
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200
I've performed with this
guy all over the world
608
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,240
and he's written more hit songs
than I can remember
609
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,000
and apparently than even
he can remember.
610
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,280
One of your tricks
as a songwriter is bait
611
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,280
and switch, we can call it. And the
most famous example is...
612
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,120
"Who, moi?"
613
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,320
The most famous example is
Every Breath You Take,
614
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520
which on the surface is a cheerful
song about love...
615
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
I wrote Every Breath You Take on the
back of the bus.
616
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840
We were driving from Dusseldorf
to Frankfurt or
617
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,040
somewhere on the autobahn.
618
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,080
You must have been driving, or Kim,
and I came up with this.
619
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640
And went, "Whoa, hey!
620
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,280
"I've got something!"
That's not Every Breath You Take.
621
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:51,720
No... It's... What is it? Message In
A... Message In A Bottle.
622
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,400
I remember that.
623
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,760
Anyway,
back to Every Breath You Take.
624
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,760
This song has serenaded weddings,
first kisses
625
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,160
and romantic moments the world over.
626
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,760
# Every breath you take... #
627
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680
But the tale Sting is
spinning goes deeper.
628
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,800
The haunting chords draw you in,
629
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,080
so you hardly notice the sinister
lyric.
630
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,800
# I'll be watching you... #
631
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Every breath you take has a kind
of patina of being
632
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,000
romantic and soft and squishy.
But it's also about surveillance.
633
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
And the chords are dark.
The chords are dark. Yes.
634
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560
The chords tell you... You know, who
are you going to believe? I love
ambiguity.
635
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000
I'm fascinated by that, that
ambiguity that, as you say,
636
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,720
a bait and switch job.
637
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,240
It's more interesting.
638
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,480
There's nothing more boring than
an "I love you and you love me"
song.
639
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,240
Although folks love that. I'm not
sure they do. It's a closed loop.
640
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,240
It's kind of smug and...
You can't join in.
641
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,120
But I love you and you love somebody
else is a three-dimensional problem.
642
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Suddenly, you start to hurt.
It's a drama. It's a drama.
643
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Sometimes you write and you can feel
that you're writing about you.
644
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Other times, sometimes,
when I feel that this is
645
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,680
you you are talking about, you put
some other person as the subject.
646
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,200
You may be right.
647
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,800
You may be right, although that's
my process to take it out from me
648
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,760
and objectify it, somehow.
And control it, therefore.
649
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,720
We're talking about jealousy,
we're talking about very dark human
650
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,320
emotions, you don't
really want to own them that much.
651
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Put it on someone else.
652
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000
It's good therapy to put
it on an imaginary person.
653
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,760
Storytelling, it helps me, I'm
trying to make sense of my world.
654
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,240
But you also, by accident, might be
making sense for other people, too.
655
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,880
Which I never really anticipated.
656
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,480
That's what good songs can do.
657
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Whether they're brand-new or very,
very old.
658
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,400
Believe it or not, Sting started
his career in folk clubs like this,
659
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,080
singing traditional songs to
contemporary audiences.
660
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,120
And this was one of his earliest
influences, Martin Carthy.
661
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,720
# A fine young man, it was indeed
662
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,080
# Mounted on his milk white steed
663
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,880
# Rode and he rode
and he rode all alone
664
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,200
# Until he came to lovely Joan... #
665
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,440
I think a hugely important step to
becoming a songwriter myself
666
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,440
was the learning those folk songs
and how they were formed
667
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,200
and what they were singing about.
668
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Often they would
sing about mining disasters,
669
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,240
or working-class concerns.
670
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,080
Or, older folktales from a much
older tradition,
671
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,680
magical stories about witchcraft
and spells.
672
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,120
I sang in folk clubs,
learned the Martin Carthy canon
673
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,960
and he was the man who brought
Scarborough Fair into the world.
674
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,920
And Martin Carthy'd play...
675
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,480
# Are you going to Scarborough fair?
676
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,720
# Parsley, sage,
rosemary and thyme... #
677
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,800
# Remember me to one who lives there
678
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,760
# She once was a true love
of mine. #
679
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,760
Simon and Garfunkel's version
of Scarborough Fair has become
680
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,880
an essential part of the story
of 1960s America.
681
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,600
But the original author of the
ancient English song is unknown.
682
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840
Many different versions exist.
683
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,720
Paul Simon first heard
Martin Carthy's version
684
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:45,280
when he was on tour in England
in the early 1960s...
685
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,200
..and famously borrowed it without
giving credit, until many years
later.
686
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360
But Martin is still playing
it, in a new arrangement of this
687
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,480
traditional song.
688
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,480
# Are you going to Scarborough fair?
689
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,720
# Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme
690
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,520
# Remember me
to a lass who lives there
691
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,000
# For once,
she was a true lover of mine. #
692
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,520
It became my song, if you like.
693
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,880
Bob Dylan picked up on it
and loved it and ran with it,
694
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,400
and Paul Simon learned it and he and
Art Garfunkel had a big hit with it.
695
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,240
It's a traditional song.
696
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520
As young people in the mid-1960s
tried to make sense of a grim,
697
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,720
turbulent future,
they looked back to the past,
698
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,760
to folk music for a soundtrack
and songs evoking a simpler time.
699
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,040
If you want to find out
about history from ordinary people,
700
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,960
look at the songs they sang.
701
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Hut, 2, 3 and...
702
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Music keeps stories alive,
and not just in England.
703
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
When slavery brought
people from Africa to the Americas,
704
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,080
music helped preserve their culture,
their language and their stories.
705
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,960
SHE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE
706
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,200
French Cuban sisters Lisa
Kainde and Naomi Diaz - better known
as Ibeyi -
707
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,160
often perform in the language
708
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,920
and musical traditions of the Yoruba
people from Africa,
709
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,840
a language they only speak
when singing.
710
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,280
SHE SINGS IN YORUBA
711
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,960
An ancient Yoruba melody, no doubt?
Oh, yes, it is.
712
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,440
It comes from Benin in Nigeria, and
when the slaves were shipped to
Cuba.
713
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,520
And they were shipped to Brazil
and...
714
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Brazil, and Puerto Rico and America.
715
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:58,160
Those slaves kind
of kept their song alive
716
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,080
and kept the tradition alive,
making sure that those songs would
717
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920
remain and they remained
in the culture.
718
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,960
And we are French Cuban, we grew up
listening to Yoruba chants.
719
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,680
It's such an important
part of our culture, of our beliefs.
720
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,920
How is it that the songs have
kept Yoruba culture alive,
721
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120
as opposed to just stories?
722
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Why does music make the story last
longer, have more dramatic effect?
723
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,720
The melody, the rhythm, you know,
it's things that connect with
724
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:31,240
more people than just the voice or
someone saying something.
725
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,400
Can you play some of your songs
that take us...?
726
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,080
This song is For Elegua,
and in the Yoruba beliefs,
727
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Elegua is the God that opens
and closes the path.
728
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,040
# Bara suayo
729
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:54,320
# Omonia lawana mama kenirawo e
730
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,480
# Bara suayo
731
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,800
# Omonia lawana mama kenirawo e. #
732
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,840
But Ibeyi don't just sing in Yoruba.
733
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,680
One of Lisa and Naomi's most
powerful songs tells a more local
734
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,320
story in English.
735
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,280
# He said, he said
736
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,920
# Do you smoke?
737
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
# What's your name? #
738
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,360
The song Deathless demonstrates
how music can provide catharsis,
739
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,240
and comment on stuff
happening right now.
740
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,840
It comes out of an experience Lisa
had as a teenager at the hands
741
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,120
of French police.
742
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400
# We are deathless
743
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520
# We are deathless
744
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,120
I was 15, I was 16, but I had
an Afro and an overall, and I
don't know, they thought,
745
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,720
"Oh, she's a drug dealer." And they
took my bag, they threw it on the
floor.
746
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:57,440
They talked, like, 3 cm from my
face. Like really if I was a
criminal.
747
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
So, the women did what
songwriters can do -
748
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,200
they decided to capture
and share their story in music.
749
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,760
# Do you smoke?
750
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,760
# What's your name?
751
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,640
# Do you know why I'm here?
752
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:17,040
# Innocent, sweet 16,
frozen with fear. #
753
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,160
If you had said to an audience,
say after me, "We are deathless"
754
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,640
and spoke it without rhythm,
without melody,
755
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,120
do you think it would have the
same power? No.
756
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,600
There's such an amazing
power in rhythm,
757
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,480
such an amazing power in repetition,
because
758
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,360
if you say it once it's not the same
as if you say it five times.
759
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,680
You need to repeat it and every time
you repeat it, it becomes truer,
760
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,160
and stronger, and you believe in it
more. That's exactly it.
761
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160
The first time they say, "We are
deathless," they think it's cute.
762
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Because they are dancing
and bouncing and the rhythm
763
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,680
and it's fun.
764
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,480
We're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We don't want cute.
765
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
"We want this.
766
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,800
"We want you to use it
and we want your true energy
767
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,160
"and we want you to use that
thing you have.
768
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,840
"We don't want you to just have fun,
this is your moment."
769
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,560
# Whatever happens
770
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,160
# Whatever happens
771
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,920
# Oh, hey
772
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,080
# We are deathless. #
773
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Music has always been a way
to grab the mic.
774
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920
# You are now about to witness the
strength of street knowledge... #
775
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960
To tell stories that might
otherwise be ignored.
776
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,600
And perhaps the best
example of this is hip-hop.
777
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,280
# Straight out of Compton, crazy
motherfucker named Ice Cube
778
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,880
# From a gang called
Niggaz Wit Attitude
779
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
# When I'm called off, I got a sawed
off
780
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,680
# Squeeze the trigger and bodies are
hauled off. #
781
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,920
40 years old
and still the most consumed pop
782
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,120
music on the planet, accounting
for one quarter of all music sales
783
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,240
and streams.
784
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,880
That's a lot of stories
getting told in words and beats.
785
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Regarded as one of the best
storytellers in rap music,
786
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,280
Talib Kweli has grown up in this
culture and seen it go thoroughly
mainstream.
787
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,360
How are you? How you feeling? Good
to see you. Good to be here in your
town in Brooklyn.
788
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Welcome home.
789
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,720
# Yeah... #
790
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:23,720
His track Get By became an anthem
for a generation of hip-hop fans.
791
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,440
# We sell crack to our own out the
back of our homes
792
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,120
# We smell the musk at the dusk in
the crack of the dawn
793
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,760
# We go through "Episodes II" like
"Attack of the Clones"
794
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,040
# Work till we break our back and
you hear the crack of the bone... #
795
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,680
The stories he's telling shine
the light on the struggling
796
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,280
within his own neighbourhood.
797
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,920
# We commute to computers
798
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,080
# Spirits stay mute, while you
eagles spread rumours
799
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120
# We survivalists, turned to
consumers
800
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,880
# Just to get by, just to get by
801
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,320
# Just to get by, just to get
by... #
802
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,400
That song is about people
who are doing whatever
803
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,240
they have to do to survive.
804
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,840
That song is about survival.
805
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,400
Even if just to survive, they've
got to shoot themselves in the foot.
806
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Were you singing about yourself,
or about what you saw around you?
807
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,880
Were you in that position
of being driven by desperation
808
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,400
to do things like that?
809
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,880
No, I have never been
driven by desperation to have to do
810
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,480
something illegal to survive.
811
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,760
I've been blessed to not have to
be in that position.
812
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,520
But I certainly have
lived in, for half of my life,
813
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,520
I lived in communities where people
had to do those things.
814
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Not in my home,
but the home right next door to me.
815
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,160
So, I was speaking
about the community in general,
816
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440
and the video for that
and everything about the song
817
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,800
is about community, Get By is a
rallying cry for a community.
818
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Music has carried stories like this
819
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,800
right around the world into the top
of the charts.
820
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,920
Tales of African-American life
that might never have been heard
821
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,320
otherwise.
822
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,280
Why do you suppose it is that music
brings power to whatever
823
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,040
story you're trying to tell?
824
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,520
I've heard it said,
I could make 1,000 speeches,
825
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,920
one good song could convey that
better than 1,000 speeches.
826
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
It's absolutely right.
Music is our last...
827
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Especially for marginalised people
and poor people, particularly,
828
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,800
music leaves the realm of art that
you just appreciate on the wall,
829
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400
or there's a nice song in the
background and you like the melody.
830
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,880
It leaves that realm
and goes into the practical
831
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,560
realm of a necessary,
natural resource to tell our story.
832
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,880
It becomes necessary
to your blueprint, to your DNA.
833
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,680
We're made up of our memories,
people attach memories to music.
834
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,400
There's things that you did on the
drum that are part of my DNA,
835
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,960
because those records were playing
when I was a little kid.
836
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,720
That's why people who grow up,
nothing is better than
837
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,280
the music they heard when they were
in high school and college,
838
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,640
because they've attached that
music to their memories.
839
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Nothing could be better.
840
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,840
This makes total sense to me.
841
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,840
I think this is why music is
the best way to remember stories.
842
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,760
But I'm just guessing.
843
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,160
What's the science?
844
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Will a human brain remember
something better
845
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,200
if it has an emotional charge?
Absolutely.
846
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,720
The things that we care the most
about are the ones that have a
847
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:21,240
privileged position for memory
storage and for memory retrieval.
848
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:26,040
And music makes us care,
so therefore it makes us remember?
849
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Yes, this is one of the most robust
principles of the cognitive
850
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,400
neuroscience of human memory.
851
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,280
It turns out that
when we care about a piece of music,
852
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,320
our ability to identify and remember
a sequence, its basic narrative
853
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,080
structure, is pretty powerful,
even when it's heavily disguised.
854
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,320
I thought we could try some
experiments to demonstrate
855
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,800
musical memory.
856
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,240
He wants to see what I can
recognise. And listen carefully,
857
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,640
because it is pretty short.
858
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,960
Sounds like a chord
I use all the time.
859
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,880
From one of my own scores.
860
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,440
That's Stravinsky, Rites of Spring.
Yes!
861
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,520
Or, yeah... Yes, it is.
862
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,240
And that's why I use that chord a
lot, because I nicked it from
Uncle Igor.
863
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,920
Just one chord is a mnemonic
for a whole musical story.
864
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,760
A hook, sure,
but also kind of a shorthand.
865
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,280
That texture is very Stravinskyan.
866
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Yes. Nice job. Now, here is a piece
of music that I have reversed.
867
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120
MUSIC PLAYS
868
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,960
Well, it sounds like Sting.
869
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Does Everyone Stare The Way I Do?
Yes. Surprising, isn't it?
870
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,240
That is surprising. Even though
I wrote that song.
871
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,400
So, here is the operation that
happened in your brain.
872
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Your eardrums are wiggling in
and out from the molecular motion
873
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,920
created by the speaker.
874
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,520
They start off a neurochemical chain
of events that ends up invoking your
875
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,320
auditory cortex,
and in the auditory cortex,
876
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200
the pitches and the rhythms
and the timbres are processed
877
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:12,200
in different special processing
circuits, and then your brain starts
878
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,680
looking for what computer scientists
would call a template match.
879
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160
What is it that fits this particular
arrangement of pitches
880
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,640
and rhythms and timbres?
881
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,720
Your brain then had to say,
"Wait a minute, it's backwards,
882
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,360
"but it's still a match."
883
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560
And your brain did
it in a couple of seconds.
884
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,400
In a couple of seconds, the brain
can recognise musical structure
885
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,280
and remember the story it's
telling.
886
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,000
And the people trying to sell us
stuff know this all too well.
887
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,040
Consumer brands are really little
more than stories that,
888
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,760
corporations want us to believe
and these, too, can be set to music.
889
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,560
Last up on round would be Old Ma
Peggoty's place.
890
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,120
Director Ridley Scott knew this
in 1973 when he used Dvorak's
891
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,600
New World Symphony to create
Britain's favourite ever TV
commercial.
892
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,760
I knew baker'd have kettle on
893
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,080
doorsteps of hot Hovis ready.
894
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,280
"There's wheat germ in that loaf,"
he'd say. "Get it inside you, boy."
895
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,160
"You'll be going up that
hill as fast as you come down."
896
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,880
Hovis still has many times
more wheatgerm than ordinary bread.
897
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,200
It's...
898
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,760
But 47 years later, we like our
musical brand messaging shorter.
899
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,200
Much shorter.
900
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,640
And Walter Werzowa is
the creator of one of the shortest
901
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,800
anywhere in the world.
902
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,200
So, what is your thing? My little
thing, it doesn't take too long...
903
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,320
Play me your hit.
904
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,160
I recognise that.
905
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,040
The Intel bongs!
906
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,120
It's a highly memorable
distillation of a company's whole
907
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,240
story in as few notes as possible.
908
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,640
Let's be bold. OK. One note.
909
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,760
Combinations like these pair
logos like Xbox, McDonald's, or
910
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,400
Netflix with short musical phrases
to tell a brand's story in seconds.
911
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,160
So, have you no shame, Sir?
912
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,240
That this wonderful attribute
of humanity has been put to use
913
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:22,920
to sell product.
914
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,320
How do you feel about the fact that
this wonderful thing of music can be
915
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,920
exploited by flinty-eyed
people who want to sell stuff?
916
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,240
Last night I was praying that you
would not ask me that question.
917
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,360
I, basically,
enjoy writing music.
918
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,680
Writing music is the greatest thing.
It's what you're going to do anyway.
919
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,280
So, how did you go about selling
a computer chip?
920
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,520
It definitely, looking back, was
the toughest assignment I ever had.
921
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,720
For the first time I heard creatives
talk about brand attributes,
922
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,560
those things like the chronology
and the faction.
923
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,360
You're nodding your head sagely
like you know exactly what they're
924
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,800
talking about. "Shit,
what is he talking about?"
925
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,240
All this incredible branding
verbiage.
926
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:11,440
And, yes, of course, I can do
technology and positiveness.
927
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,840
Emotional stuff is easier,
as you know, that's what
928
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,160
we do with music,
that's what we instinctively do.
929
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,840
It was not easy,
especially when I walked home
930
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:27,000
and I thought, "Three seconds!"
It's no time to come up with a full
931
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,680
musical piece in three seconds, it's
just almost impossible.
932
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,320
So, I played around on the piano,
nothing worked really well,
933
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,320
on the guitar, listened to music...
934
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,240
Thought, "I need to steal something
great," I listened from The Beatles
935
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,120
and Rolling Stones and everything,
and nothing really worked.
936
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,960
Finally, I saw the board again
and read Intel Inside,
937
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,960
and thought, if this were lyrics to
a song, it has four notes.
938
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,160
Tell me, the mental equipment that
we have in our brains
939
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,800
that we are born with, to understand
music,
940
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,480
storytelling is a part of it,
to make a story
941
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,520
happen, storytelling
and music are so intertwined.
942
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680
But down to three seconds.
943
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,120
What do you think? Is three notes,
really... It's a mnemonic,
944
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000
is a mnemonic a story with
a beginning and a middle and an end?
945
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,280
What do you think?
946
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,760
There is a beginning, middle and
end that are carefully constructed.
947
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,240
Let's start with the end.
948
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:30,920
If this thing doesn't have a ring
out, if this would
949
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,040
sound like this...
950
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,200
SHORT PERCUSSIVE NOTE
951
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,120
..you would think
this was a little company.
952
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,440
If it ends like this...
953
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,360
RINGING PERCUSSIVE NOTE
954
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,480
..and has a little sustain, you
need the ring out. Or a fade-out.
955
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,960
OK, actually, maybe, maybe... I'm
wrong here.
956
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,680
The beginning...
957
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,560
Yep. We've set up a whole
world of emotion there of...
958
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,600
And then we have our plot
development.
959
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,960
That's our action and then
we end up with a happy ending.
960
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,280
Yep. Happy ending.
And so the beginning...
961
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,920
..middle...
962
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,520
..end.
963
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,240
Three parts.
964
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:14,560
I give it up, it's a story, in three
seconds you have told a story.
965
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,880
Wagner needed nine hours.
966
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Yeah, I tried to talk to him,
but he didn't take my calls. No.
967
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,200
MUSIC: Flight Of the Valkyries
by Wagner
968
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Music's direct connection to
our subconscious is its superpower.
969
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,360
Walter knows this and so did Wagner.
970
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,760
And so does every other musician
and composer who has ever lived.
971
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Music may have been the first
language.
972
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,840
Before we formed words,
we made sound.
973
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,520
Somebody can pitch a note. A high
one and then a low one is actually
telling a story.
974
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Try something really simple
here.
975
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,120
I think different music
976
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,760
and sound speaks to different
people in wildly different ways.
977
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,760
Music is storytelling and narrative,
that's what it is for me.
978
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,560
It's like telling other
people's stories
979
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720
and trying to make sense of them
and trying to hear them in new ways.
980
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,640
Trying to use music at the service
of those stories.
981
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,000
There are so many ways to store
and retrieve a musical memory -
982
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,160
the pitch, the contour, the timbre.
983
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,920
We only need one or two of them
to help us
984
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,000
remember the story
associated with it.
985
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,280
We all like stories. You know,
Harry Met Sally, they fell in love,
986
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,160
they fell out of love.
987
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,840
You're not really feeling much,
but if that was set to music,
988
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,200
if it was Sting writing
a song about that,
989
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,160
your hearts would be broken,
you'd be getting married to this,
990
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,360
you'd be on the dance floor
gazing into each other's eyes.
991
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,400
Music gives a drama to it,
it gives an impulsion to it.
992
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,000
CHEERING
993
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,120
Music somehow takes a story
and gives it an emotional impact,
994
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,400
and that's the real thing.
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