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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,080 CROWD SHOUTS 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,240 CHEERING 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Have a look at this, ladies and gentlemen. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,880 ROCK MUSIC 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,240 We don't have to send in our money. 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,200 We've just got to stop asking starving people... 7 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,160 ..to give back the money our government's lent them, 8 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:42,640 plus interest. 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,160 That's about it. 10 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,200 CHEERING 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Sounds good. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,760 But the banks won't cancel the debts 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,600 unless the politicians tell the banks to do that. 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 And the politicians won't tell the banks 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 unless we tell them to do that. 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,000 So that's why I'm here. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Are you with me? 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,560 CHEERING 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,560 Are you? 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,120 ARCHIVE: It's 12 noon in London, 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,520 7am in Philadelphia. 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,400 And around the world it's time for Live Aid. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,320 40 years ago, music brought the world together 24 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:23,320 to fight a famine in Ethiopia. 25 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,680 # We could be heroes... # 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,960 32 million human beings dying of hunger in a world of surplus food. 27 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:34,680 And it's this simple thing that drives me nuts. 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,880 It all began with a song. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,280 The most remarkable number one ever. It sold a million in a week. 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Well, that's more than any other record in the history of music. 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,480 CHEERING 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,520 It inspired Live Aid, one of the biggest global events in history. 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,800 To be honest, it seemed a harebrained scheme. 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,920 It seemed like this could never happen. 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 I remember the stadium shaking. 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,560 I was singing my face off, honey. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,200 # It was 20 years ago today Sergeant Pepper... # 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,840 20 years on, Live 8 challenged 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,560 the leaders of the world's richest countries 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,760 to address the causes of poverty in Africa. 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,240 People were saying, "Why the hell are we going to spend money 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,800 "over in Africa when we got road problems in my state? 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,160 I said to Bob, "I'll do the politics, you do the public." 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Nothing can ever repair the damage colonisation, 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 slavery did. 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Nothing. 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,080 But this was demonstrating what we can do. 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,400 This is the story of how a pop song inspired a movement 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,480 that secured tens of billions of pounds for Africa. 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,800 You can't change the world with a song, or even a concert, 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,720 but you can plant a seed. 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 # Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band! # 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,840 2003, 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,800 I'm back in Ethiopia. 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,400 NEWS: 20 years ago, he formed Band Aid to raise millions of pounds 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,000 in famine relief. Now he's back to highlight a new crisis in Ethiopia, 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 a country where 12 million people now face starvation. 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280 I go to visit an orphanage, 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,000 and I see these children 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,760 whose parents have died 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,800 because of no food. 62 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,240 It annoys me to tears of frustration. 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,880 I go ballistic at this point, as ever. 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,800 "Get me Downing Street!" 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,680 We were in Evian 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,600 for the G8 summit, hosted by Chirac. 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,560 And an urgent message came from the switchboard, 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Number 10 switchboard, 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,320 that Bob Geldof needed to speak to Tony. 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Fortunately, I was next to Tony, 71 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,200 and these things could happen there easier than other places. 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Kate handed me the phone, said, "It's Bob." 73 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 He came on the phone, 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 and, as ever with Bob, went straight to the point. 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,480 I remember shouting, "It's happening again!" 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,320 And he said, "Stop shouting. What's happening?" 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,080 He just said, "Look, the situation in Africa is absolutely dire. 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,040 "It's gone off the agenda. 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,160 "We've got to see how we revive..." 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Not just revive the sort of Band Aid campaign, 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,160 but put Africa on the agenda of the top leaders in the world. 82 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,040 So I got a meeting with the Prime Minister. 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 And the thrust of my argument was, people dying of hunger 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,880 and dying of no hope will not get resolved 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,600 until we get to the nub of what poverty is. 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,000 And the first thing that has to happen is 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,040 we remove debt from the poorest countries of the world. 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,280 So, the issue of Africa's debt was a massive, massive problem, 89 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:57,320 because a lot of countries were paying vast amounts of money 90 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,640 in interest on a debt that, frankly, it was highly unlikely 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,160 they were ever going to be able to repay in full, 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,960 without devastating their country. 93 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,840 It was stunting their growth, 94 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:09,760 it was making them unable to fund basic public services. 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,080 We needed someone who would chair a commission 96 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,000 that's been asked to eliminate debt. 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 I said, "It can't be an African leader, 98 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,920 "because African leaders are essentially powerless. 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,680 If it's Blair, then he's the Prime Minister of Britain - 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,960 deeply popular, except for Iraq - 101 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,080 and he's going to chair the G8. 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,040 He said, "All right, let's do it." 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,320 I wouldn't have reacted in that way at anyone, but it was him, 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,960 with his track record, his commitment, his knowledge, 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,280 his dedication - and therefore it made sense. 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,840 NEWS: So today, Sir Bob Geldof was back, this time flanked 107 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,120 by the Secretary of State for International Development, 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,360 Hilary Benn, to launch a new initiative - 109 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,240 a Commission for Africa. 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Bob - crucially it was his idea, the Commission for Africa, 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,920 so he was driving the political agenda INSIDE government, 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,640 which was incredible. 113 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,040 It's almost like a report card of the Live Aid generation, 114 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,000 who became animated and activated by this subject, 115 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,960 a subject that was nowhere on the world political agenda 20 years ago. 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,080 I think there were 17 members. 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,720 You had African politicians, you had African business leaders, 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,280 but you also had G8 representatives 119 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:24,360 and the UK government. 120 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,200 NEWS: Tonight, Mr Blair arrived in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,480 for a meeting of his Africa Commission. 122 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:10,760 The African Commission, you can read it both ways. 123 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,200 One is that it was generally a good-faith effort to support Africa. 124 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 The other way you could read it is, 125 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,240 well, actually, Tony Blair, it suited his narrative 126 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 to cast himself as some saviour. 127 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,720 When I come and see what is happening here 128 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,520 and see what could happen, 129 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,520 I know that however difficult politics is, 130 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,960 there is at least one noble cause worth fighting for. 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,960 And it's here, on this continent. 132 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 After the meeting and the press conference, 133 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,480 a Sun journalist said that he had been to a little town 134 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,160 two hours away and had identified and found Birhan, 135 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,040 the symbol of the crisis and famine 136 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,680 in '85. 137 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,000 So the request was, "Would Tony meet her?" 138 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,880 which, of course, the answer was yes. 139 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,840 I remember her coming in 140 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 and she had a great presence about her, actually. 141 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Tony - you know, he had this kind of "Gosh, Bob," 142 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,080 you know this sort of expression that he had on. 143 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,960 And, you know, I hadn't expected this coup. 144 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Tony talked about the impact she'd had on him 145 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,360 and the rest of the world. 146 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,520 It was a very moving meeting. 147 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,280 I mean, in politics you don't often get many moments where you... 148 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,240 ..think, "Well, that was good that we did that. That was good." 149 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,200 And she brought home to me that 150 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,720 the whole thing that we were trying to do was important, 151 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,720 because many people didn't survive, weren't surviving. 152 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 But her being there was a representation of the fact 153 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 it was possible to do something. 154 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,920 The UK was going to host the G8 summit in 2005. 155 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,240 G8 summits, they are useful for leaders to come together 156 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,120 and talk about things, but they don't have big consequence. 157 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,520 I was very determined 158 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,480 that we should try and make this a meaningful summit, 159 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,920 where we were going to try and do huge things, 160 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,360 particularly on Africa. 161 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,320 The key to everything about getting other G8 leaders was Bush. 162 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,320 To begin with at least, I think he thought it was a bit crazy. 163 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,480 We should be talking about the normal things - the economy, 164 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,120 a bit about global security, 165 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,000 and then get out of town as fast as possible. 166 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Good morning, Tony. 167 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,280 How are you? 168 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,560 I told the people here that one of my customary habits 169 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,720 is to check in with my friend in Great Britain, 170 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,760 so I'm glad that we are able to talk today. 171 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Because the relationship was a very close relationship and... 172 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,760 You know, there are... people who would disagree 173 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,560 with how close it was for all sorts of obvious reasons. 174 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:34,200 But because it was so close, 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,560 we were in constant conversation with each other. 176 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,200 And I thought there was a chance, 177 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,400 because we had formed this commission 178 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,200 that Bob had asked us to do. 179 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,640 And then you had Bono. 180 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Bob was "effing this" and "effing that", 181 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,920 even with presidents and prime ministers! 182 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 And Bono had this kind of deep empathy with people, 183 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,320 and knew how to kind of appeal to their inner souls. 184 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:01,480 # The heart is a bloom 185 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,840 # It shoots up through stony ground 186 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 # But there's no room... # 187 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Bono and I are REALLY good friends and very close. 188 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,640 By this time, he was a global mega-superstar. I wasn't. 189 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,440 # Don't let it get away 190 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,680 # It's a beautiful day 191 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,360 # Touch me, touch me... # 192 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,640 He wants to give the world a great big hug, 193 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,360 and I want to punch its lights out. 194 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,840 Live Aid - it began a journey for all of us, 195 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 a lot of people on that stage, 196 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 from what you might call charity 197 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,120 to what you might call justice. 198 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,840 I don't believe anything like that would have happened without... 199 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,440 ..without Bob. 200 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:57,720 I had the fortune of working with, you know, Bob Geldof and Bono. 201 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,720 We had a lot of momentum on debt cancellation in 2000 and 2001. 202 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,560 But we had not completed the job. 203 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,320 The HIV Aids emergency was running out of control. 204 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,560 We had not focused on that as much. 205 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,600 NEWS: The United Nations says 36 million people around the world 206 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,320 have HIV or Aids, and 3 million will die in the next year - 207 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,280 80% of them in Africa. 208 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,360 What was happening with HIV Aids on the continent of Africa 209 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,160 was about to undo everything. 210 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,400 And so the discussion was... 211 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,040 ..what more could we do alongside debt on HIV Aids? 212 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 The organisation we founded was Data - 213 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Data.org. 214 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Bob comes up with Data 215 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,760 as an acronym. 216 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,760 The three biggest challenges 217 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,840 to the continent of Africa. 218 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Debt. Aids. And trade. 219 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:56,920 I became aware of Bono 220 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:02,280 and his - at the time it was called Data - organisation 221 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,800 a few months into the Bush presidency. 222 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,640 But they were... a pretty rinky-dink operation. 223 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,440 He's right. We were rinky-dink. 224 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,480 That's correct, actually. 225 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,040 I think it's true. 226 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,840 But that was, if I can say so, the genius of the strategy. 227 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 So we're not coming in here doing press conferences, 228 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,760 we are never going to... 229 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 I said, "Bono will never sing in Washington DC. 230 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,360 "Not Happy Birthday, not "how are you doing?", not a verse from One. 231 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,680 Nothing. 232 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,800 They were asking for Bono to have a meeting with Condoleezza Rice. 233 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Morning. Good morning. Morning. 234 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,560 I said I would present it to her. 235 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,880 I myself was a bit sceptical about that. 236 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,840 Jendayi Frazer came in and she said, 237 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,000 "Bono - do you know who that is?" 238 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,360 And I said, "Er, yes. 239 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,760 "I'm a huge fan of U2. I would love to meet Bono." 240 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,440 I think she was a little surprised. 241 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,720 It was very weird 242 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,120 for the National Security Advisor to meet a pop star. 243 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Bono came talking about the facts. 244 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,640 He came with a very substantive policy agenda. 245 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,320 My goal always was to know more than the staff. 246 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,800 And Bono, to his great credit, really took to that. 247 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 He was like, "Yeah, I'm going to know more than them." 248 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,080 And that shocked people, you know, 249 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,960 cos they don't expect well-known people to know the numbers. 250 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,640 It was very clear after just a few minutes 251 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,360 that Bono wanted to talk about the Aids pandemic, 252 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,080 and he wanted to talk about the possibility of US leadership 253 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,880 in taking on that challenge. 254 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,240 This was 6,000 Africans dying every day 255 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 of a preventable treatable disease concerning HIV. 256 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,240 But they don't have to. 257 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,480 If that population was anywhere else, there is a treatment. 258 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,160 And we just have to get it affordable 259 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,160 and accessible to these people. 260 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,400 I was a little bit worried about bringing Bono in 261 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,800 to see the President. 262 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,680 The President, his tastes go toward country music, 263 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,440 not toward rock music. 264 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,560 The President did not do that sort of thing often, 265 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,200 because he felt that rock stars would be using 266 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,320 the White House platform to advance their own celebrity. 267 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,480 And so Josh is briefing me, 268 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,720 you know, you'll stand here, you'll say to Bono this, Bono that. 269 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,320 I said, "I got it, Josh. I got it." 270 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,040 And he's leaving the Oval Office and he turns over his shoulder and said, 271 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,000 "You do know who Bono is, don't you?" 272 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,680 And I said, "Yeah, he married Cher." 273 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,200 And I turned around and I looked at his face 274 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,600 and I could not tell whether he was kidding, 275 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,400 and I said, "No, that's Sonny Bono, who is dead." 276 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,920 And in comes the great star, Bono. 277 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,280 He surprised me by giving me a Bible. 278 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,520 I don't think this was a way to make me like him, 279 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,720 I think it was a way he really wanted to share with me 280 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,520 a part of his being. 281 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,760 I knew he was a man of faith 282 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,360 and I thought he might enjoy this ancient Irish Bible. 283 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 The first 10 or 15 minutes of the conversation 284 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,680 between President Bush and Bono 285 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,600 was about the meaning of religion in the public sphere. 286 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,600 Well, he made the case about people dying of Aids. 287 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,240 I had campaigned and told people 288 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,480 a guiding principle of my administration 289 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,040 was all life is precious 290 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,120 and we're all God's children. 291 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,560 I asked George Bush, "Is there a hierarchy to sin?" 292 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,800 He gave me the best answer anyone ever gave me. He said, 293 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,960 "Er, the sin of omission?" 294 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,200 The sin of omission. 295 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Well, the sin of omission would be to say, 296 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,160 "Oh, I'm not going to do it cos I'm too busy, 297 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 "or cos, you know, whatever, 298 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,840 "and we'll let all those people die." 299 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320 I'm being informed that there's a pandemic destroying 300 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,520 an entire generation of people on the continent of Africa, 301 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,720 and at the time that I'm the President of... 302 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,560 ..which I consider the most generous nation in the world, 303 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,360 and we're doing nothing about it. 304 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,200 It struck my heart. 305 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,760 As unappealing as it was to U2's audience, 306 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:15,920 having their singer hang out with a Republican, 307 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:22,720 it was just as much a bad photo op for them. 308 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:29,240 A year passed from that fateful day when Bono met President Bush, 309 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,920 and I assumed Bono was wondering, 310 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,240 "OK, what's happening with Aids relief?" 311 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,520 And the President had decided that he wanted to do it 312 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,560 in his State of the Union, 313 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:47,720 which is the moment when the biggest ideas come forward. 314 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 APPLAUSE 315 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 I asked the Congress to commit 316 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,800 $15 billion over the next five years, 317 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 including nearly $10 billion in new money, 318 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,600 to turn the tide against Aids 319 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,000 in the most afflicted nations of Africa and the Caribbean. 320 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,360 APPLAUSE 321 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Bono got George Bush 322 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,640 to give $15 billion to black people 323 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,680 who don't vote, who have Aids. 324 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,920 I think a great nation also should be a compassionate nation. 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Nothing more compassionate than helping people who are condemned 326 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,880 to death live. 327 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Pepfar, the President's emergency plan for Aids relief, 328 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,440 is the largest health intervention in the history 329 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,320 of health interventions. 330 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,280 It has saved 26 million lives. 331 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,920 Bono, he never stopped pushing, 332 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,640 but he was also moving on to other topics 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,000 in development, including debt relief. 334 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,600 I've come because Prime Minister Blair asked me - 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,880 and he may regret it. 337 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,240 LAUGHTER 338 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 In the largest sense, 339 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:18,480 I'm here because of a journey that began in 1984, '85, 340 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,960 with Band Aid and Live Aid. 341 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,840 Live Aid raised 342 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,280 200 million or something like that. 343 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,360 That's what the African continent's paying every week 344 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,040 in debt service. 345 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Shouldn't we be offering these struggling economies 346 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,120 across the world a brand-new start 347 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,800 by lifting that debt burden from them? 348 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,280 That was the journey from charity to justice right there. 349 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,920 The Prime Minister's Africa Commission, 350 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,160 this can be a radical landmark. 351 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,400 It will have to be... 352 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,000 ..if Bob Geldof has his way, 353 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,400 and it is hard not to give Bob Geldof his way, is it not? 354 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,680 LAUGHTER 355 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,200 The Commission for Africa report set out the broad agenda. It kind of 356 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 created the road map, or as Tony Blair called it, the bible 357 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,280 of what he finally wanted at the G8 meeting in Gleneagles. 358 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:25,080 This thing here is so doable. 359 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,440 NEWS: The plan for Africa is radical, 360 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,240 including a 100% cancellation of debt, 361 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,280 doubling aid to £26 billion a year in the first instance, 362 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,360 and removing unfair trade barriers so that Africa can sell 363 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,320 goods to the developed world. 364 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,720 I said to Bob, you know, 365 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 "I'll do the politics, you do the public, 366 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,360 "but you've got to give me help with those politics 367 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,160 "by mobilising the public in favour of this, 368 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,840 "cos a lot of people are going to be saying to me, 369 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,840 " 'Why are you making all of this commitment to Africa?' " 370 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,120 I'd sworn to the Prime Minister 371 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,840 that I would do the public 372 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,680 if he implemented the Commission for Africa... 373 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,320 ..which was the cancellation of debt to the poorest 374 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,560 and a doubling of aid. 375 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,040 I thought that I could be a good bridge between 376 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,120 the complexity of the Commission for Africa 377 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,480 and the simplicity of what the public might respond to. 378 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Myself and Bono and Bob spoke often 379 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,880 and we believed that we could come up with an interesting campaign, 380 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,800 which was a campaign that turned into Make Poverty History. 381 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Our motto was launch, launch, and launch again. 382 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,160 We just launched as many times as we could. 383 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Then we had this opportunity for Nelson Mandela 384 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,560 to launch it again. 385 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Millions of people in the world's poorest countries, 386 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,160 they are trapped in the prison of poverty. 387 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,680 It is time to set them free. 388 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,640 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,640 Mandela's presence was 390 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,080 to bring a very strong African leadership to it, 391 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 and my presence was to say, 392 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,680 "Well, we're organising globally," 393 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760 and to bring a global presence to it. 394 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Even that launch was heavy celebrity focused, right? 395 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,680 Of course, a conversation broke out about celebrocracy, 396 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,120 which is the domination of public space by celebrities. 397 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,320 But I had to convince folks that the blunt truth is 398 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,400 we had access to people in power, 399 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,320 but nothing like what the celebrities were able to deliver. 400 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,640 It seemed to me that if the Make Poverty History campaign 401 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,880 could have a...second Live Aid, 402 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,000 then it might be possible to make it something which was noisy 403 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,160 and popular and famous and therefore more effective. 404 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:51,240 I can't overdramatise how much of a refusenik I was. 405 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,760 I was not going to do this. 406 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,360 Then Bono, who knows me very well, 407 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:00,920 came and said... 408 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,160 Imagine if Paul McCartney... 409 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,920 # 20 years ago today 410 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,760 # Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play... # 411 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,400 It WAS 20 years ago today. 412 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,720 Live Aid was 20 years ago today. 413 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Walking onstage, 414 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Paul McCartney... 415 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,960 ..and U2. 416 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,600 And I went... 417 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,280 ..cos he had me. 418 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,360 Then you got a sense that it might be magnificent. 419 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,520 And he came up with Live 8, 420 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,520 in other words do a concert in each of the G8 countries. 421 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 I call up Harvey. 422 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 He goes, "We're not fucking doing it again!" 423 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,240 You know, so... And I said, 424 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,200 "No, we're not. 425 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,520 "This time it's in eight places," you know? 426 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Well, I have, 15 times in the last week. 427 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,720 He's an awkward bugger. 428 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760 If he wants something, he doesn't stop. 429 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,600 I had an office with a spare sofa 430 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,640 and a very tolerant staff. 431 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,520 Hello? Bob always had his phone on speaker, 432 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,800 which meant that you could hear every conversation he ever had, 433 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,120 and he talks very loud in order to convince people. 434 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:15,360 Did I have to call all these people again? 435 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:21,520 The embarrassment of it, you've no idea how I have to steel myself. 436 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,880 I sort of said, "Hey, Pete, it's Bob." 437 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Or, "Madge, it's Geldof again." 438 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,120 It's not. It's like... 439 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,400 Mick? 440 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,680 It's Bob. 441 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,400 Hi, Bob. I'm here to haunt you. 442 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,040 APPLAUSE 443 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,040 NEWS: Bob Geldof walked into 444 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,560 a London hotel today to do what he had promised never to do, 445 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000 stage another concert like Live Aid. 446 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,400 Good morning. 447 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,320 July the 2nd isn't the end of our 20-year trek, 448 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000 it's the beginning of the final leg. 449 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,440 What Live Aid did joyously, enthusiastically, 450 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,640 was open up the avenues of possibility. 451 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Finally, Live 8 invites you to walk down them. 452 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,000 When was the last G8? 453 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,280 When did you ever read about it? 454 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,240 When will...? What was the agenda? 455 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,680 And did you know the leaders had even gone? 456 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,760 And when they came back, did the press question them? 457 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480 No. 458 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200 A million people on the streets 459 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,120 of every capital city, 460 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,560 that was my plan, 461 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,920 so that the journalists were totally focused 462 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,560 and it was called Live 8. 463 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,320 8, 8, everywhere. 464 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,200 I get a call from the President of the Nelson Mandela Foundation 465 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,480 who says to me... 466 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760 .."Kumi, 467 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 "Mandela is very upset 468 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,080 "that there's no concert in Africa. 469 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,800 "I mean, these guys are talking about Africa, Africa, Africa 470 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,560 "and there's nothing in Africa. How can that be?" 471 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,400 And the logic was, you know, if we had something, 472 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,360 even if it was smaller-scale than the other eight concerts, 473 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,480 at least Africa is not invisibilised 474 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,520 and then you don't have the white man saviour complex. 475 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,360 I said, "OK, I think we can pull it off in Johannesburg." 476 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,480 NEWS: This global gig is going to make itself heard. 477 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920 NEWS: Shows will run throughout today. 478 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,640 They're intended to put pressure on the leaders of the G8 countries 479 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,280 to tackle global poverty. 480 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,240 As many as 200,000 people 481 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,400 are expected in Hyde Park in London. 482 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,840 Everybody here's not only here for the music, 483 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,320 but they're just to show that we, as a nation, are committed 484 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,880 to ending poverty. 485 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,040 CHEERING 486 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,000 PRESENTER: It's two o'clock in London 487 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 on July the 2nd, 2005. 488 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,480 Hyde Park welcomes the world 489 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,040 to Live 8. 490 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Just the start of Live 8, 491 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,600 U2, we're in our dressing room, 492 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,960 we close the door, have this prayer thing. 493 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,880 Our manager, Dennis Sheehan, God rest his soul, 494 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,440 he knows nobody can come in in that moment, 495 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,800 it's a private moment. 496 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 HE KNOCKS ON TABLE 497 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Don't answer the door. 498 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Finish the prayer. 499 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600 I ask Dennis, I said, 500 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,360 "What was that at the door?" 501 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,520 He said, "Oh, that was, erm... 502 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640 "That was Sir Paul McCartney." 503 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,440 I said, "Paul McCartney? Oh, God." 504 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Ran out. 505 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,000 I go, "Paul! 506 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,640 "So sorry." He said, "What were you doing? 507 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,200 "What were you doing?" 508 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,480 I said, "We just have a little prayer moment, you know? 509 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,040 "One of those prayer moments." 510 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,000 "Why didn't you ask me? Why...? 511 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840 "I mean, if you'd asked me, I'd love to be part of that." 512 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640 He said, "Have it again, with me." 513 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,200 It was the most poetic prayer. 514 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,080 And then we went onstage. 515 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960 CHEERING 516 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280 MUSIC: Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles 517 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240 # Well, it was 20 years ago today 518 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,880 # Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play 519 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 # They've been going in and out of style 520 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,040 # But they're guaranteed to raise a smile 521 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,400 # So let me introduce to you 522 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,360 # The band you've known for all these years 523 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:24,320 # Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band... # 524 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760 They went onstage and we opened the show 525 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,040 with a fanfare, and there it was, "20 years ago today". 526 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,040 # We're Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 527 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,920 # We hope you will enjoy the show... # 528 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,360 As we heard the names of who was going to be performing 529 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,160 in the London concert, 530 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680 people were getting concerned that actually they were not seeing 531 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,120 African names, 532 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,840 and it's not like Africa as a continent is poor 533 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,200 in musical talent. 534 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,560 Will it alter the politics of the G8 535 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,920 to have genius African musicians on? 536 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,440 Will it force the G8 to do what we ask? 537 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,600 No. 538 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640 I think we all consistently disagreed with Bob on this, 539 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,360 myself and Bono. 540 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120 It was clear that, you know, there should be more 541 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,600 African representation in Live 8. 542 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,280 And there was a great African musician, Youssou N'Dour. 543 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,840 He did perform. I wish his voice had been heard more. 544 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,240 Thank you! 545 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960 # Boul ma sene 546 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,320 # Boul ma guiss madi re nga fokni mane 547 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:02,080 # Khamouma li neka thi sama souf ak thi guinaw... # 548 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Youssou N'Dour was a key voice in making the argument 549 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,800 that debt cancellation, for example, should be done in such a way 550 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,040 as African citizens could keep an eye on their leaders 551 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760 and keep an eye on how the money was spent. 552 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,080 So he was able to articulate that nuanced point 553 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,080 in a way that it was very hard for, you know, Irish rock stars to do. 554 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640 # Beaucoup de sentiments de races qui font qu'ils desesperent 555 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,240 # Je veux les deux mains ouvertes 556 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,360 # Des amis pour parler de leurs peines et de leur joie 557 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,600 # Pour qu'ils leur aient des infos qui ne divisent pas 558 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760 # Changez... # 559 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:46,880 We did our best to make it more involving of African acts... 560 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080 ..and failed. 561 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,600 We fucked up. 562 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 563 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Africa! 564 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,840 United! Thank you! 565 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,760 What we had that none of the other concerts had, 566 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,040 we had the most moral, ethical human being 567 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,600 who was going to be in Johannesburg, and that was Nelson Mandela. 568 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,640 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 569 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,920 I am pleased... 570 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,320 ..to be here today... 571 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,120 ..to support Africa standing tall against poverty... 572 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,280 ..in concert... 573 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,040 ..with Live 8. 574 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600 CHEERING 575 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920 Generations to come 576 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,720 will judge our leaders 577 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,360 by the decisions they make 578 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,240 in the coming weeks. 579 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040 CHEERING 580 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Hyde Park, make some noise for 581 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Ms Dynamite! 582 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,680 It's so beautiful to be here. 583 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200 It's so beautiful to see all of these beautiful faces 584 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,440 in front of me. 585 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,320 We, as a nation, have robbed, killed, 586 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,120 stolen and tortured the Third World for centuries. 587 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,120 If there is a debt to be paid, 588 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120 surely we're the ones that owe. 589 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920 CHEERING 590 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,040 # Old pirates, yes, they rob I 591 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960 # Sold I to the merchant ship 592 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,680 # Minutes after they took I 593 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000 # From the bottomless pit 594 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,400 # But my hand was made strong 595 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120 # By the hand of the Almighty 596 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,160 # We forward in this generation 597 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,880 # Triumphantly 598 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,960 # So won't you help to sing 599 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,840 # Redemption song? 600 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000 # What's going on? Nothing's changed 601 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120 # We're still exploiting the poor 602 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 # Slavery never ended, no 603 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,440 # It just changed course 604 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360 # Aids and free trade 605 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440 # Decimating the young 606 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,320 # Famine everywhere but why never a shortage of guns? 607 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,440 # Conflict all over the globe 608 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760 # It's dictated by our leaders 609 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,440 # War in the motherland... # 610 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640 BOTH: # But no African arms dealers 611 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,720 # The West robbed the Third World 612 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,520 # Of every single cent 613 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640 # Now there's Third World debt 614 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720 # How does that make sense? 615 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800 # Won't you help to sing 616 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,240 # These songs of freedom? 617 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,240 # Redemption song. # 618 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,080 Thank you so much. 619 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Well, thank you, Ms Dy-Na-Mi-Tee! 620 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440 JONATHAN ROSS: Well, I'm going to hand you downstairs to Jo, 621 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 because she has Lenny Henry with her. Jo? 622 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,720 Lenny, is there a lack today...? 623 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440 I had to represent so many black people today. 624 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,720 But was it a problem for you today? 625 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Actually, what's been very, very good is that 626 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080 there's been more than you think, actually. 627 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,600 And I think that's all right. 628 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,960 I've enjoyed it today. 629 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,280 There's always a criticism about not being enough black acts. 630 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,360 I didn't care whether they were black, brown, green or yellow. 631 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,920 If they were a big act, 632 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,120 and they were great, and they wanted to play, great. 633 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,440 I want to say hello to Philadelphia. Welcome, America, to Live 8! 634 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040 CHEERING 635 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,640 And the reason that millions of you have tuned in 636 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040 is because every three seconds, 637 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,400 in one of the poorest countries in the world, 638 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,560 a child dies as a result of extreme poverty. 639 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Please watch this. 640 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,000 The click campaign was a way of making the reality, 641 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,800 the horror of the thing... 642 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680 ..immediately accessible. 643 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,120 CLICK 644 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,480 Dead. 645 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080 Everybody, let me see your hands! 646 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,640 Let me see your hands! 647 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,120 All over the world, here we go. 648 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520 CLICKING 649 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Let these world leaders know. 650 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,240 If you were a politician sitting in Gleneagles 651 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,840 and the screen splits up to the world all going click, 652 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,760 you're going to go, "Ah." 653 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480 And if I was a political adviser, 654 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,320 I'd say, "Prime Minister, Mr President, 655 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,840 "can I just show you this?" You know? 656 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Thank you for being a part of Live 8. 657 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,040 CHEERING 658 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520 I know for us we're the young generation, 659 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,520 and a lot of young people look up to us, 660 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680 so we actually, one of the reasons we're here is 661 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,600 to take advantage of the celebrity. 662 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600 # Say my name, say my name... # 663 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,280 We've been to Africa and we've seen the children, 664 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,720 so anything we can do to help, we're here. 665 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,560 # I know you say that I am assuming things 666 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,160 # Something's goin' down, that's the way it seems 667 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,800 # Shouldn't be no reason why you're actin' strange 668 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,440 # If nobody's holdin' you back from me 669 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,280 # Cos I know how you usually do 670 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,040 # Where you're sayin' everything to me times two 671 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,560 # Why can't you just tell the truth? 672 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,160 # If somebody's there then tell me who... # 673 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,760 You see, the difference between '85 and '05. 674 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,280 In '85 we had Tina... 675 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,160 ..Patti LaBelle, Teddy Pendergrass, 676 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440 but it wasn't Michael Jackson, it wasn't Stevie Wonder. 677 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,520 At Live 8, we had Destiny's Child, 678 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120 Beyonce, Will Smith, Jay-Z. 679 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,400 CHEERING 680 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,920 You know, they're spending billions and billions of dollars 681 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 to kill people. 682 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,840 We just spent billions and billions of dollars to help people live, 683 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,680 and we appreciate all y'all help. 684 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,400 I don't want to get too political. Let's play some music, man. 685 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,040 Come on! Come on, Jay. 686 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,320 # Who you know fresher than Hov? Riddle me that 687 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 # The rest of y'all know where I'm lyrically at 688 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,200 # Can't none of y'all mirror me back 689 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880 # Yeah, hearing me rap is like hearing G Rap in his prime 690 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,280 # I'm young HO, rap's Grateful Dead 691 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,360 # Back to take over the globe, now break bread 692 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,720 # I'm in Boeing jets, Global Express 693 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,720 # Out the country but the Blueberry still connect 694 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,040 # I'm on the low but the yacht... # 695 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,120 As I said, there are gigs going on all over the world, 696 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,640 so let's see what's happening in Paris. 697 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,400 It's with the Chateau de Versailles, I believe. 698 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,040 CHEERING 699 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,840 Bonsoir, Paris! 700 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,800 Comment allez-vous? 701 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680 CHEERING 702 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,080 This is Moscow. 703 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,400 Tokyo. 704 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,320 This is Canada. 705 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,320 Huge gathering there in Berlin. 706 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200 In Rome, we have a band performing called Nek. 707 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Grazie! 708 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,440 Alla prossima. 709 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,840 Over 200,000 people have gathered here today in London. 710 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,680 A worldwide audience we think of in the region of 711 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000 5 billion people. 712 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Hi. 713 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,920 You were great. That's Jeanne, my missus. 714 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,520 Hello. That's Tiger. 715 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,720 AS VOICEOVER: Madonna is not only an avatar of the '80s, 716 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:15,800 but became emblematic of the whole adventure of Live Aid 717 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,080 through to Live 8. 718 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,400 See this little girl? 719 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,360 She had ten minutes to live 20 years ago. 720 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,720 And because we did a concert in this city and in Philadelphia, 721 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,640 and all of you came and... 722 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,000 Last week, she did her agricultural exams 723 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,520 in the school she goes to in the northern Ethiopian Highlands. 724 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,640 She's here tonight, this little girl. 725 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,040 Birhan. 726 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,920 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 727 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960 Don't let them tell us that this doesn't work. 728 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,280 Ladies and gentlemen, from one immensely strong woman 729 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,920 to another, the queen bee of rock and roll, 730 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Madonna! 731 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,400 # Oooh... # 732 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,120 Wow. 733 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,800 # Life is a mystery 734 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,160 # Everyone must stand alone... # 735 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:57,840 Madonna, this healthy, beautiful, talented woman onstage 736 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:03,360 with this infant who had seconds to live 20 years ago. 737 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,280 If anything could have told the journey of Band Aid, 738 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,040 it was this image. 739 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,480 # When you call my name, it's like a little prayer 740 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,280 # I'm down on my knees... # 741 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,000 # Just like a prayer, you know I'll take you there... # 742 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,840 # When you call my name, it's like a little prayer 743 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,040 # I'm down on my knees, I wanna take you there... # 744 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,960 Yeah, quite a lot. 745 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,200 Well, Harvey's been stressed for fucking weeks. 746 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,280 Let's go now. 747 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,560 Can we go now? 748 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080 One, two, three, four! 749 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,280 # Ooh-ooh 750 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,160 # Every breath you take 751 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,520 # And every move you make 752 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,240 # Every bond you break, every step you take 753 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,040 # I'll be watching you... # 754 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,440 Spitting Image had used that song, Every Breath You Take, 755 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,280 as the end song of one their shows, 756 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,640 and "we'll be watching you", 757 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,200 and it was all of the world leaders were puppets. 758 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,760 # We'll be watching you... # 759 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,200 So I took that as my lead. 760 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,840 That's what the song became about that day, 761 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,440 we'd be watching you. 762 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,120 Surveillance the other way. 763 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,160 # Democracy 764 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,800 # This is the daily plan 765 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,720 # No matter we say... # 766 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,880 You can't change the world with a song, 767 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,720 or even a concert, 768 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,760 but you can plant a seed. 769 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,960 If you plant a seed in a young mind 770 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,760 about fairness, about human rights, 771 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,520 about the nature of governments, 772 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,440 that seed can bear fruit, 773 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200 and it does. 774 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,840 # Every single day 775 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,680 # Every word you say 776 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:49,080 # Yeah, oh-oh-oh-oh. # 777 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,360 CHEERING 778 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,920 We did overrun. 779 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,840 It was a problem, 780 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,120 and I had to deal with 781 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440 a platoon of policemen 782 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120 marching towards the stage 783 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,720 at just about 15 minutes before the official curfew time. 784 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,720 And I was threatening them, you know? 785 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,600 I said, "Pull the fucking plug." 786 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,520 They didn't quite understand 787 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,280 that the planet, 3.2 billion people, were watching. 788 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,800 And they didn't care. 789 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,920 And I was going ape-wire, 790 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800 I was so afraid we wouldn't get to Paul. 791 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,680 Someone found Tessa Jowell, 792 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,800 who was having a nice time watching the show, 793 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,480 and dragged her backstage. 794 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,720 He came through the crowd 795 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,240 and said to my kids, 796 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,280 "I need to borrow your mum." 797 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,840 I said to the guys, 798 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,040 "The Minister for Culture is coming. 799 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,960 "I advise you to get your hand away from that plug." 800 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,560 I didn't expect to be on the front line 801 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,680 of whether or not the concert carried on. 802 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,480 I simply said, "This is on my shoulders." 803 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,720 She said - very cold, very strict - 804 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,200 "I am telling you now, 805 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,920 "with the authority of the Prime Minister... 806 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,320 .."that this concert finishes appropriately." 807 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,640 Done. 808 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,200 Pop and politics at this point 809 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,200 had blended almost seamlessly. 810 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,160 # Na-na-na, na-na-na-na... # 811 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,320 Come on! 812 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,920 # Na-na-na-na, hey, Jude... # 813 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,240 Come on, everybody, don't keep me waiting! 814 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:44,960 # Na-na-na, na-na-na-na 815 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,080 # Na-na-na-na, hey, Jude 816 00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:57,640 # Na-na-na, na-na-na-na 817 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,520 # Na-na-na-na, hey, Jude... # 818 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,880 Ah, we hope you're going to hear us. 819 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080 We hope you're going to hear us! 820 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,680 # Na-na-na, na-na-na-na 821 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,440 # Na-na-na-na, hey, Jude 822 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,800 # Yeah... # 823 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,080 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 824 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,080 # Ohh, oh-oh-oh. # 825 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,160 Thank you! 826 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,240 See you in Edinburgh. 827 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,520 BAGPIPES SKIRL 828 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,880 We hadn't got the Africa deal before the summit began, 829 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,240 it wasn't across the line, 830 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,000 and there was still quite a lot of opposition to it. 831 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,360 The Americans had a strategy for a while that the top issue 832 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,480 that would get agreed at Gleneagles would be debt cancellation, 833 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400 and we wanted a doubling of aid for Africa as well. 834 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,160 On Africa, I was negotiating 835 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,520 the text with Faryar Shirzad 836 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,560 as he was flying in with Bush. 837 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,160 Michael and I essentially had to kind of figure that process out. 838 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,200 I kept saying to him, 839 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,720 "Listen, we can pledge to double development assistance, 840 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,600 "but committing to do it, well, is a complicated thing." 841 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,320 And we had three or four hours on the phone, 842 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,160 with me in Gleneagles, him in the plane, trying to get him to agree. 843 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640 There was no relationship the President had around the world 844 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,360 that was closer than the one he had with Tony Blair, 845 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,320 and so he made it very clear to me that this summit had to be 846 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080 a success, an outside success, for the Prime Minister. 847 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,040 BAND PLAYS: Hail To The Chief 848 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,960 You get to places like Gleneagles, 849 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:04,280 where a character like President Bush is more than bemused 850 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,480 at the sight of myself and Bob running around. 851 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640 And I didn't have any clue who "Geldorf" was. 852 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080 Yeah, he and Bono came in and... 853 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,160 Bono, at least somewhat presentable. 854 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,560 Geldorf looked like he'd crawled out from underneath the ground. 855 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,000 But he was a good guy. He cared deeply, and... 856 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,520 LAUGHS: ..I'm sure I insisted upon the picture, 857 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960 to prove I actually met Geldorf. 858 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,440 I personally felt like it was almost arrogant of us being there, 859 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,360 but it was very nice of the Prime Minister to have us there. 860 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,800 So the corridors, which once would have been 861 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,320 just the G8 leaders having a fireside chat, 862 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,360 now were full of us all making sure that 863 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,000 the partnership with Africa and the developing world 864 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,960 was part of the conversation in a central way. 865 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,960 The Prime Minister and the President had a private breakfast that morning 866 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,360 and then joined the setting. 867 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,160 There was kind of a patio area 868 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,720 and an inner lounge that was available to the leaders. 869 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:34,360 The meeting started, but it had only been going, I suppose, 870 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,280 15, 20 minutes or so, when news began to come in. 871 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,840 Newsbeat. In the last few minutes, we've been getting reports 872 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,120 of an explosion between Liverpool Street 873 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,680 and Aldgate Stations in London. 874 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,520 All the windows were blown out on one of the trains. 875 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,320 An eyewitness described a loud bang and black smoke... 876 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,440 The police have declared it a major incident. 877 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,280 I remember Jonathan coming in and telling me, 878 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,840 "There's been a set of incidents in London, 879 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,000 "and we don't know exactly what's happened, 880 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040 "but we think it's a terrorist attack." 881 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,000 The Prime Minister was quite shaken by the news that he had heard, 882 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,720 and he shared it with the other leaders at that point. 883 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,360 President Bush spoke up first. 884 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,240 I told Blair, "Get down to London. 885 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,880 "We can handle our own up here," you know? 886 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,840 "Get down there and do your job." 887 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,360 And then the question was, "Well, what'll happen to the G8?" 888 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,080 And they agreed, "Well, the G8 must go on, because if it stops, 889 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,360 "then the terrorists will be seen to have won." 890 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,800 Today's bombings will not weaken in any way our resolve... 891 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,640 ..to uphold the most deeply held principles of our societies. 892 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,200 We shall prevail, and they shall not. 893 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,280 NEWS: There were at least six explosions, the Home Secretary 894 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,400 has just confirmed, one of them on a bus packed with commuters. 895 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,680 I remember just looking and being a bit confused by this, 896 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,200 being horrified by the bombs. 897 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,040 I mean, for a moment, we just... We had to collect ourselves. 898 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,840 We had to say, "OK, what are we going to do now?" 899 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,760 We had to group and say, "What's the next plan?" 900 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,360 With Tony Blair gone, it was then agreed that I would then... 901 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,480 I would then chair the meeting at lunch. 902 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,880 You know, him leaving, it could've all fractured. 903 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600 One of those leaders could've taken advantage of it, 904 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,000 blocked the issues we were still trying to get across the line. 905 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,040 Schroeder found the text quite difficult to accept, 906 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,800 particularly the text on Africa. 907 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,760 The Germans were not on board. 908 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,120 Aid to Africa wasn't seen as a particularly German thing. 909 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,240 Germany was more interested in Eastern Europe and so on. 910 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,760 The German Chancellor, Gerhard Schroeder, I'd had a beer with him. 911 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,600 I say, "Look, I'm actually going to Berlin, 912 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,480 "coming to a stadium near you, 913 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,840 "and I am going to have to tell people 914 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,920 "if you're signing or you're not signing. 915 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,280 "So...are we in or are we out?" 916 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,880 Like a good politician, he doesn't agree. 917 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,720 I go to Berlin, I do call him out. 918 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,280 Leadership means that between all these rich countries, 919 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,760 we get $50 billion a year for the poorest of the poor, 920 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,400 something we have not yet got today. 921 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,160 And so we do not applaud the Chancellor. 922 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,400 But if... 923 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,240 ..he can deliver this... 924 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,400 ..by four o'clock tomorrow... 925 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120 ..your Chancellor, in my mind, 926 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,400 will be a hero. 927 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,400 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 928 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,480 Tony Blair came back from London, exhausted. 929 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,120 Quite late that evening, he called me 930 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,520 and said, "Look, what's been going on while I've been away?" 931 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,960 I said to Tony Blair, "Look, you're going to have to talk to Schroeder." 932 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,760 And then he went down into the bar 933 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,480 with all the leaders there and their wives. I remember him... 934 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,000 Not to exaggerate, but he had Schroeder up against a wall, 935 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,160 saying, "We're going to do this deal, aren't we, Gerhard?" 936 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,760 And at that moment, I think Schroeder gave in 937 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,440 and we got across the line with the Germans. 938 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200 What had been really hanging in the balance, 939 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,200 in terms of getting the commitment, it came through. 940 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,000 And all the leaders played their part in that. 941 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120 To be frank, even President Putin played his part in that. 942 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,600 You know, he had the ability to wreck that whole summit 943 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,400 if he wanted to, and he didn't. 944 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,360 He's Putin, you know? 945 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,960 We did it with all the leaders standing there, signing up to it, 946 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,400 with the African leaders in attendance. 947 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,000 It was definitely the most extraordinary weekend 948 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,680 I had in my time as Prime Minister. 949 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,200 It was... 950 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,960 ..probably one of the last moments of truly global solidarity... 951 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,400 ..that I can remember. 952 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560 NEWS: The figures agreed sound immense - 953 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,480 $50 billion extra in aid for the developing world by 2010, 954 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,320 $25 billion of that for Africa. 955 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,760 A number of the NGOs in this area are saying that 2010 is too late, 956 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,840 that the money is needed more urgently in Africa now. 957 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,600 This is a natural course of events. 958 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,000 You get fed up with parts of the NGO community, 959 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,320 because whatever you do is never enough, 960 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,520 and they ask you to do something, you do it 961 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,160 and they still criticise you. 962 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,280 And Bob and Bono just weren't like that at all. 963 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,360 Debt relief equivalent to billions was a giant leap, 964 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,360 to the benefit of most of the impoverished states. 965 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,800 NEWS: Disappointment with the deal - and some of its famous backers - 966 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,280 came to a head later in the afternoon. 967 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,160 The fact that aid was delayed till 2010 968 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,480 meant there's a lot of room for wriggle-out, right? 969 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,480 Because five years, people have forgotten, 970 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,960 the context has changed, all of that. 971 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,880 Our reading is that the G8 has listened, 972 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,360 but their response has not been a roar but a whisper. 973 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,560 I do my "People roared and G8 whispered," 974 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,560 and then Bob takes the thing and goes... 975 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,960 .."According to my calculation, this is how many lives will be 976 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,040 "saved as a result of this aid money," 977 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,280 which will come five years later. 978 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,640 When did ten million people alive become a whisper? 979 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,080 At what point was that a whisper? 980 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,520 APPLAUSE 981 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,960 It was a very, very intense moment. 982 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,880 I'm just thinking, "We're getting through this 983 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,880 "and we're advancing our cause and we're not over." 984 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,840 A mountain has been climbed, 985 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,120 and...only to reveal higher peaks, for sure, on the other side of it. 986 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160 But it's worth just stopping for a second 987 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,960 and looking back down the valley at where we've all come. 988 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,320 Doubling aid to Africa has not been easy. 989 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,080 What Bono said, we could live with. 990 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,920 You know, after the event was over, Bono said, "Every army needs 991 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,760 "to have a mad general, and Geldof is our mad general." 992 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,440 CHEERING 993 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,000 MUSIC: Do They Know It's Christmas? by Band Aid 994 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:14,400 # At Christmas-time, it's no time to be afraid 995 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,960 # It's Christmas-time Let in light and banish shade 996 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:30,200 # And in our world of plenty, we can spread a smile of joy... # 997 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,880 I think there were very many good people, with good intentions, 998 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,280 that were involved both with Live Aid and Live 8. 999 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,400 I think that there was not enough sensitivity 1000 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,440 to understanding that it's not right 1001 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,160 for a bunch of predominantly white male folks to get together 1002 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480 and say, "We're going to frame a continent like this." 1003 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,600 # Tonight, thank God it's them instead of you... # 1004 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,600 Getting this stuff right is really hard, 1005 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,800 because you are essentially raising an alarm. 1006 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,400 What Bob and Bono and others have done over the years 1007 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,800 has resulted in, I don't know, 1008 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,360 probably millions of people living who otherwise would have died, 1009 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,960 and I don't think there's any type of, you know, 1010 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,320 remote ideological argument that should stand in the way of that. 1011 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,640 # Feed the world... # 1012 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,720 The 20th anniversary was just a convergence of... 1013 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,960 ..good fortune and good actors on the world stage. 1014 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,320 But what's happening now in politics 1015 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,400 means this anniversary could be a funeral... 1016 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,280 ..for the last 40 years. 1017 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,440 It was unique. 1018 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,560 It has saved lives. 1019 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,200 But now, can we bring this kind of passion, 1020 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,080 can we involve human beings across the world 1021 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,120 to act the way you acted in the 1980s to save lives? 1022 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,360 What I love is that there are younger people, 1023 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,280 and they say, "We're not going to do it like they did it" - 1024 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,160 and they're right, cos I don't think that'll work - 1025 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,920 "but I can utilise this new stuff I've got 1026 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,920 "to do something weird and mad and wild." 1027 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,960 And if that's what we leave behind, 1028 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,120 then that's what I'd love to be the parting shot. 1029 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,120 That's the end of our show! You've been a fantastic audience! 1030 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,440 Thank you, thank you very much! 1031 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,520 CHEERING 1032 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720 We're back to Philadelphia now. 1033 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,760 Thank you very much for coming. 1034 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,920 Please leave the stadium slowly and quietly. 1035 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,480 It's been the most fantastic day. Thank you, thank you! 1036 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,160 CHEERING 1037 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,160 Over to you, Philadelphia! 127898

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