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This is the city, Los
Angeles California.
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Two and one-half
million people live here.
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Every month,
5,000 more crowd in.
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Tourists spend over
a billion, one hundred
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million dollars a year
in Southern California.
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It's a big business.
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On Olvera Street,
you can buy the best
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Mexican handcrafts
this side of Mexico City.
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Anything you’re looking
for, Los Angeles has it.
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If it’s for sale,
you can buy it.
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Some people don't
bother bringing money.
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They do their shopping
at the point of a gun.
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That's when I come
in. I carry a badge.
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It was Tuesday, June 14.
It was clear in Los Angeles.
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We were working the day
watch out of Robbery Division.
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My partner's Bill Gannon.
The boss is Captain Howe.
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My name's Friday.
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The Daily Occurrence Report
is a measurement of the city.
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It's all there: burglaries,
holdups, murders.
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As the city grows,
the report grows.
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Part of the extra weight was being
contributed by a gang of armed thieves,
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specializing in holding
up cocktail lounges.
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The count to date was six.
So far, nobody had been killed.
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Number seven
might not be so lucky.
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The story you are
about to see is true.
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The names have been
changed to protect the innocent.
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Bill. Joe. Morning, Skipper.
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- How're you coming on
those cocktail lounge 211s?
- Nothing much so far.
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M. O. 's always the same. Four men
wearing full-faced, red plastic masks.
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Near as we can tell, they haven't hit
anything but cocktail lounges—six so far.
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Mostly around the
Highland Park area. Yeah.
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- Suspects always drive a red Cadillac.
- Anything else on the car?
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No license number, but
they all agree on one thing.
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- What's that?
- It's an old model, red convertible.
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- Anything show up in the F.I. cards?
- Nothing.
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Robbery, Howe.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah, Lou. All right, thanks.
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Maybe they got something
for you over on Georgia Street.
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- Yeah, what's that?
- Edwards and Beeson have
a juvenile in custody for G.T.A.
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- Picked up last night in Highland Park.
- Yeah?
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Says he remembers seeing four men
in an old model, red Cad convertible.
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9:32 a.m. Bill and I drove
over to Georgia Juvenile.
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The interrogating officers were
Jack Edwards and Frank Beeson.
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Edwards told us the boy's
name was Fred Tillar, aged 1 7.
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This was his second
offense. He was on probation.
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He's a cool one, Joe. He
won't give you much. Yeah.
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Copped out on three other
auto thefts. That's all we can get.
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Right. Thanks, Jack. Frank. Let
us know when you're through, Joe.
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Right.
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Got a couple more questions,
son. I already talked to Edwards.
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Talk to us. Tell us about the four
men in that Cadillac. What about 'em?
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You know 'em? No.
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You sure? Edwards asked
me if I ever lifted a Caddy.
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Told him he must be kidding.
Man, those things are boats.
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Me, I dig Mustangs. They're
really boss. Where'd you see it?
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What? The Cadillac.
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Where the kids hang out. You
know, at the drive-in. Where's that?
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Sixth and Franklin, but you're
wasting your time. Are we?
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Sure, nobody'd steal
that Caddy, man. Why not?
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Man, who'd want
it? It's a piece of junk.
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12:28 p.m. Bill and I
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checked out the drive-in
Tillar told us about.
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We asked a waitress named
Angie if she had seen a red Cadillac.
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Red Caddy? Sure, I
remember it. A couple of
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wise kids. Teenagers.
Think they're clever.
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Yes, ma'am. Do you
remember their names?
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Who remembers names? I wait
on cars, I don't wait on people.
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You can spot 'em, you know?
Take a Buick, always good for a tip.
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Little foreign cars,
forget it. They stiff
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you every time. Can't
get a nickel from 'em.
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Yes, ma'am. How many
did you say were in the car?
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Two, I think. Yeah, one's a large Coke,
the other one's a milk shake. Yeah, two.
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- Could you describe them?
- Oh, no. Kids all look alike.
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Like I said, one's a Coke, and the
other one's a milk shake. That's it.
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When you took their
order, did they say
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anything? Mention a
name? Anything like that?
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- One thing, maybe.
- Yes, ma'am?
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Well, they were kidding
around, you know, and the
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Coke says to the milk
shake, "It's robbery," he says.
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"Yeah," he says, "Larry, she sure
robbed the cradle when she married you."
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And the milk shake just
laughs. Thought it was real funny.
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Larry. Is that the name he used?
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Yeah, that's right. Larry.
The Coke was kidding him
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about his wife. Claimed she
looked more like his mother.
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- Yes, ma'am. Go on.
- And one more thing I remember.
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- What's that?
- They didn't leave a tip.
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We figured there was
a chance the suspect,
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known only as Larry,
could've been in trouble before.
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If so, the officers at Juvenile
Division might be able to help us again.
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1:33 p.m. We checked back
with Officer Jack Edwards.
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Hi, Jack. Friday. Hi, Gannon.
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Keeping you busy? All the time.
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We're looking for a
kid, first name Larry, no
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last name. Chance you
might've handled him?
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I might've handled a thousand
Larrys. Yeah, we know, Jack.
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We got something that
might help. What's that?
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He might be married to an older woman.
Now, does that mean anything to you?
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Yeah. Yeah, sure. Larry, uh...
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Larry... Hubbert. Sure,
we've handled him before.
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Here his package.
County camp graduate.
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Kind of a weird setup, Joe.
Larry's 17. Edna—that's the wife...
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Gotta be at least 10-12 years
older than him. Anything on her?
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- No. Clean as far as we know.
- Got the address, Jack?
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Yeah, uh, 8854 Wilton.
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Thanks a lot, Jack.
What's Hubbert up to now?
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211. We figure three
adults in the gang.
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- Kid'll never learn, I guess.
- Well, it might help if he'd do one thing.
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- What's that?
- Stick to people his own age.
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2:15 p.m. The Wilton Street
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address was in an
older section of the city.
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It was neat and well-kept, like
the Cadillac parked at the curb.
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Without a warrant, we
couldn't shake down the car.
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We would have to question Larry
Hubbert first, try to get his permission.
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You Larry Hubbert? Yeah.
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Police officers. All right if
we come in? You Juvie cops?
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Robbery Division. Where's
Edwards? I don't know you guys.
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Well, maybe it's time you did,
son. Why don't you come right in?
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How come Edwards isn't with
you? I give him all my business.
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We're living in the age of specialization,
son. You own that Cadillac parked outside?
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Well, yeah— Just stay put. Keep
your hands out of your pockets.
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Yeah, that's my car. Neat, isn't it?
You know, I fixed that thing up myself.
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What are you guys
looking for? Some answers.
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Hey, uh, is it all right if I put
a shirt on? I'm kind of cold.
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Where is it? In the bedroom.
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We'll both go. Sure.
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I'll check the kitchen.
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Freeze!
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All right, now. You just
stand still and keep those
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hands in plain sight
where I can see 'em. Bill!
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Get your hands behind your back.
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Now, suppose you just sit
down on the end of the bed.
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I'll check it
through C.I.I. Right.
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All right, son, you're
under arrest. It's my
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duty to inform you of
your constitutional rights.
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You have the right to
remain silent. Any statement
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you make may be used
against you in a court of law.
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You have the right to the
presence of an attorney.
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If you desire an attorney
and cannot afford one,
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one will be appointed
before any questioning.
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Do you understand that?
Yeah, I've heard it before.
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Do you understand it?
Okay. I understand it.
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Where'd you get the
gun? A friend gave it to me.
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What friend? Just a guy who
borrows my car once and a while.
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He gave it to me to pay for using
the car, that's all. What's his name?
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Why should I find out? I can
give you a couple of reasons.
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You're on probation. Possession
of a deadly weapon. Is that enough?
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It was a gift. Did you
ever point it at anybody?
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I told you, the guy gave it to me for
using the car. Tell me so I believe it.
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Guy's name was Jones. You wanna
try for Smith or Brown? I want it straight.
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I'm leveling with you. Can I help it if the
guy's name is Jones? I met him at work.
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Where's that? Burbank.
Phillips Industries.
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They make that plastic tile stuff,
you know, that they glue on counters?
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This Jones, he work there too,
does he? Yeah. Then he quit.
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What'd you do, retire?
No. I'm sick today.
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Oh, sure you are. Who are you?
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We're police officers, ma'am.
What are you doing here?
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Are you Edna Hubbert?
I'm Mrs. Hubbert, yes.
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Is this your husband? Yes. Did you
have to put those handcuffs on him?
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He has a gun, ma'am.
It's hot, Joe. One of seven
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taken in a 459 from a
sporting goods store last month.
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Mm-hmm. Before or after
the red-mask holdups? Before.
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All right, son. Tell me where you got
that gun. What's this about a red mask?
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She doesn't know
anything. Six cocktail lounges
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were held up, all by four
men wearing red masks.
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They drove a car like
Larry's, and Larry has a gun.
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What'd he tell you? Back
out of this, Edna, will you?
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She doesn't know
anything. Honest. Sergeant?
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Yes, ma'am? Could I
talk to you alone a minute?
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Yes, ma'am.
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I, uh—I don't want Larry to hear this.
He doesn't like his wife to interfere.
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- I understand, ma'am.
- I don't think Larry did this,
whatever you said he did.
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- We have to check it out, ma'am.
- But even if he did,
it's not his fault, you know.
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- I'm the one should be arrested.
- How's that?
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Well, I work nights... cashier in a
coffee shop, and there's nobody.
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- Nobody?
- Well, there's nobody to
look after him while I'm out.
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Well, now, looks to me like
he can take care of himself.
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- But he's only a boy.
- Well, I guess you know that
better than I do, ma'am.
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- You disapprove of me, don't you?
- Should I?
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- You're like everybody else.
- How's that?
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I can hear 'em when I
come home. Whispering and
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pointing fingers and
laughing behind my back.
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They think it's funny.
I'm not ashamed.
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Why shouldn't I have
what everybody else has
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got? A little happiness.
That's all I want.
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Yes, ma'am. He's better
off with me, you know.
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It's a nice home. It's
clean. Nice things.
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- He wouldn't have it if it wasn't for me.
- Yes, ma'am.
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Guess you think all he sees in
me is somebody to pay the bills.
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- No, ma'am.
- I'm only 29.
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Well, I'm not so old.
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Maybe I'm not so pretty, but, well,
he could've had his pick. I know that.
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They make it easy for
him. Who's that, ma'am?
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Birds, he calls 'em.
The teenage girls.
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You know, short skirts
and showing everything?
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Stand around on corners,
making eyes. The delinquents.
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- Well, that's what they are, you know.
- I wouldn't know, ma'am.
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- Larry used to be.
- Used to be what?
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A delinquent. He was
always getting into trouble.
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But nobody wanted him,
you see? Nobody. He'd
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still be on the street
if it wasn't for me.
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- Is that so?
- I rescued him.
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You-You see these books?
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They're his. He's
very intelligent.
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He goes to the library.
Has a card and everything.
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We read a lot,
you know, together.
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- Well, that's better, isn't it?
- Better than what?
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- Than being alone?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- Sergeant?
- Yes, ma'am?
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I don't know where his parents
are. Does that make a difference?
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Well, I wouldn't know, ma'am.
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Larry won't let me contact them.
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Know what I think? What's that?
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I think he's ashamed.
They're poor people, you know.
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- They're, well, not used to nice things.
- I see.
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Well, that makes me his guardian,
doesn't it? I mean, being his wife?
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No. I doubt that, ma'am.
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But, as his wife, it's my duty to
inform you of your constitutional rights.
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Now, both you and Larry
have the right to remain silent.
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Any statement you make may be
used against you in a court of law.
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You have the right to the
presence of an attorney.
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If you desire an attorney
and can't afford one,
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one will be appointed
before any questioning.
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- Do you understand that, ma'am?
- Yes.
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Found it in the closet, Joe.
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Sergeant, did you mean
what you said before?
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What's that, ma'am? About if
I couldn't afford an attorney?
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Yes, ma'am.
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I guess maybe we need one.
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3:48 p.m. We returned to
Georgia Juvenile with the suspect.
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Although we had decided not to detain Mrs.
Hubbert, she insisted on coming anyway.
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Mrs. Hubbert called the public defender's
office to arrange for an attorney.
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Bill and I took the subject
to the Juvenile squad
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room. We turned Hubbert
over to Jack Edwards...
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to be booked under
Section 602 of the Welfare
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and Institutions Code
for a 2 1 1 P. C., Robbery.
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Since further interrogation
of Larry Hubbert
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would have to await
the arrival of an attorney,
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we decided to check out
the one lead he had given us.
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Without a first name on Jones,
we couldn't run it through R&I.
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But we figured that Phillips Industries,
the place Hubbert claimed he met Jones,
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would be the best
place to check it out.
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4:15 p.m. Because of
the outbound commuter
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traffic, it took us 20
minutes to get to Burbank.
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Phillips Industries was a medium-sized,
combination plant-and-showroom operation.
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The personnel manager,
Mr. Bernard Ashton,
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told us they employed
about a hundred people.
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He didn't remember
either Hubbert or Jones.
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We get a lot of transients,
you know. They think
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the grass is always
greener down the street.
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Most of our people have been with us
10, 12 years though. Good, solid people.
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- Yes, sir.
- Larry Hubbert, good, solid lad.
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- It's a shame though.
- How's that?
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He missed four or five
days’ work last month.
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Keeps that up, I'll
have to let him go.
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- Yes, sir.
- Oh, that Jones fella,
what's his first name?
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We don't know, sir.
We'd like you to tell us.
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I got three here. Uh, "Jones, Robert
M." He's been with us for eight years.
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"Jones, James A." A little short
fella. He does finishing work.
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Has a way about him,
you know? He jokes a lot.
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"Jones, Donald R."
Huh, that's interesting.
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- What's that?
- This fella left us five or six weeks ago.
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Now, that's real
funny. What's that, sir?
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His closing check. He
never came back to get it.
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With Jones's address
provided by Ashton,
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we arranged for the nearest black-and-white
unit to try and pick him up immediately.
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The black-and-white unit reported
that Jones was not at home.
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We asked that another Robbery Division
unit stake out the apartment house...
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while we returned to P.A. B.
To check Jones through R&I.
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We ran the name "Donald
R. Jones" through R&I.
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He had done time at San
Quentin for armed robbery.
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He was out on parole.
He had not checked with
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Al Tucker, his parole
officer, for six weeks.
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It looked like he had
gone back to his old habits.
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With the stakeout on Jones's apartment,
we decided to return to Georgia Juvenile.
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6:12 p.m. This is my
attorney, Mr. Auerbach.
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How do you do, sir? This is
Bill Gannon. How are you?
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Joe Friday. Glad to know you. I've
talked to the boy. Do you wanna fill me in?
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We're holding him under
W.I.C. 602, 211 P.C., Robbery.
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- On what grounds?
- Gang always wore full-face,
plastic red masks. He had one.
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He was also in
possession of a stolen gun.
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They can't keep him in jail,
can they? A 17-year-old boy?
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- That's the best thing
he's got going for him, Mrs. Hubbert.
- What's that?
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His age, being 1 7. You see,
juvenile law in California...
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is based on a concept of correction
and rehabilitation, not punishment.
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I've talked to him. He
knows he can remain silent.
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But after a hearing,
it could influence a
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judge to declare Larry
unfit as a juvenile...
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and remand him
for trial as an adult.
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The judge might have
a lot in favor of that
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argument. Larry has a
record. He's on probation.
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He's married. He's
functioning as an adult.
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I think the police would
have to come up with
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more evidence to convict
him for armed robbery.
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But if they've got what
Gannon here says they've got,
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there's a good chance they could
put Larry away for a while right now.
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Now, if Larry were to
make a clean breast of it, the
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judge might view that as
an indication of repentance.
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It could make it easier on him.
That's just my opinion, you understand?
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You want Larry to confess.
Is that what you want?
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No. That's up to Larry. I
told him what I'm telling you.
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- He wanted to know what you thought.
- What'd you tell him?
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I just told you. If he's
innocent, he has nothing to hide.
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If he's guilty, I'd advise him to admit
his guilt. It's to his benefit to do so.
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It's not fair, Mr. Auerbach.
It's not fair at all.
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Mrs. Hubbert, I just explain
the way the law works.
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It really doesn't make any difference,
does it? Whether he confesses or not?
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- How's that, ma'am?
- Well, they'll take him away from me.
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I lose either way, don't I?
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6:43 p.m. Acting on the
advice of his attorney,
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Larry Hubbert made
a full confession.
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He implicated Donald Jones as the
leader and named two other accomplices.
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We put out an A. P. B.
To have them picked up.
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Under California law, the
confession of an accomplice
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without corroboration, is
never sufficient to convict.
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The red masks Hubbert
and the others wore,
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prevented positive
identification by their victims.
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Unless they all confessed, we felt
we didn't have enough to take to court.
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7:20 p.m. We returned to
Jones's apartment house and
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checked in with the team on
stakeout, Chitwood and Emlet.
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They had nothing to report.
No sign of the suspect.
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They drove around to
the rear of the building
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to relieve the team
on stakeout in the alley.
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7:44 p.m.
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Police officers. Stand still. Open that
box, you're a dead man. Put it down. Now!
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Keep those hands out
of your pockets, lady.
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Would somebody tell me what
this is all about? You just stay quiet.
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You're under arrest.
For what, illegal parking?
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Just shut up and listen,
both of you. It's my
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duty to advise you of
your constitutional rights.
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You have the right to
remain silent. Any statement
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you make may be used
against you in a court of law.
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You have the right to the
presence of an attorney.
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If you desire an attorney
and can't afford one,
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one will be appointed
before any questioning.
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- Yeah, you finished?
- Do you understand that, Jones?
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- Yeah.
- You?
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- She understands it.
- Do you?
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Yes.
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- These belong to you, lady?
- She's a collector.
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He gimme the case. I
didn't know what was in it.
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Why'd you carry it?
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It was pretty. Real talent,
huh? All body, no brain.
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Good thing for you
I'm slow. Is that right?
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- Little faster, you'd know how dead feels.
- Well, now, what else
would you like to tell us?
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That's it, cop. You
heard it from me.
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Hang on to 'em. We'll
shake the apartment.
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00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:03,293
What are you looking for,
cop? My little black book?
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We'll settle for a red mask.
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The shakedown of Jones's apartment
gave us nothing more to go on.
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He refused to talk, and under
the law, we could go no further.
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We took him
downtown to be booked.
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The guns we found in
the girl's makeup kit...
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were taken in the same 459 as
the gun we took from Larry Hubbert.
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We knew we had
Jones for parole violation.
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We wanted him and the other two members
of the gang for the red mask holdups.
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9:15 p.m. Boy, I got
that migraine again.
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00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,161
Yeah? What time
did we have lunch?
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We didn't. We didn't?
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No. You hungry?
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I could eat. Me too.
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Maybe I oughta call
Tuck. Jones's P.O.?
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00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:50,813
Yeah. Figure he
can get him to talk?
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Might be worth a try.
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9:45 p.m. Bill picked
up a sandwich,
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and I went back to the squad
room to wait for Al Tucker.
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He'd been working late.
I filled him in while Bill
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waited in the interrogation
room with the suspect.
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Parole officers are a special breed:
half policeman, half social worker.
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They have to take
the rejects of society
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and try to make decent
citizens out of them.
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It's a tough job. Tougher because
there's not enough of 'em to go around.
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Most ex-convicts have a lot of
respect for their parole officers.
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They get close. They have to. Their parole
officer has to approve almost everything.
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Where they live. Where they work.
What time they get home at night.
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Jones was no exception.
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I blew it, huh? All the way.
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You quit your job. You moved. You
didn't check in. Here you are again.
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I thought you were squaring,
Don? I got bored with making tile.
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What'd you have? Nine months,
10 months out of the joint?
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Things were going sweet
till these guys showed up.
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You wanna tell me
about it? In front of them?
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00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,748
Look, Tucker, I got the right to
stay silent and I'm staying silent.
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Wait for you outside,
Tuck. All right.
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00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:07,482
Now, look, Don, this sort of an
attitude isn't going to get you anywhere.
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00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,357
You wanna bite?
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00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,158
No, thanks. You sure?
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Sure. Corned beef, imported Swiss,
lettuce, Russian dressing, coleslaw,
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kosher pickle, slice of
tomato, mayonnaise, peanut
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butter, horseradish
and a little hot mustard.
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No, thanks. Sure, now?
It's an awful good sandwich.
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00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:25,771
Sounds like a seven-course
meal. Well, it's a little filling.
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You think he'll cop out to Tuck?
Save an awful lot of time if he does.
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He'll talk to you now.
What'd you do, Tuck?
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00:22:38,257 --> 00:22:41,421
Nothing any other parole
officer couldn't do. What's that?
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00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:44,986
Well, Jones figures he's bound to go back
to the joint one way or the other. Yeah?
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There's more than 200 different prison
jobs they can hand him up there at Quentin.
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00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:52,627
You remember him saying he
didn't like making tile? Yeah, I do.
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00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,639
Well, he told me he'd
like to try metal work.
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00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:58,871
I can recommend what job he
gets. I told him I'd see what I could do.
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00:22:58,944 --> 00:23:02,608
You know, Jones told me something.
I don't know if he'll mention it to you.
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00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:05,515
It's not really important. Thought
you might want it for your case.
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00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:09,077
What's that, Tuck? Well, it's about
that kid, that teenager Larry Hubbert?
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00:23:09,154 --> 00:23:12,818
Oh, yeah. What about
him? Gonna be a father.
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00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:15,725
Well, I missed dinner. Guess
I'd better be getting on home.
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00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:18,286
Don't rush off, Tuck.
I got half a sandwich.
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00:23:18,363 --> 00:23:21,356
Yeah? What's in
it? Oh, you'll love it.
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00:23:21,433 --> 00:23:24,096
Corned beef, imported
Swiss... Good night, Bill.
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00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:26,661
Lettuce, Russian
dressing... Tuck, I'll see you.
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00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:30,573
Coleslaw, kosher
pickle, a slice of tomato...
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00:23:37,582 --> 00:23:40,245
The story you have
just seen is true.
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The names were changed
to protect the innocent.
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On September 15,
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trial was held in
Department 180,
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Superior Court of
the State of California,
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in and for the County
of Los Angeles.
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In a moment, the
results of that trial.
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The suspects were found guilty
on two counts of armed robbery.
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Robbery in the first degree is
punishable by imprisonment...
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in the state prison for
not less than five years.
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After a hearing, the juvenile suspect
was remanded to the custody...
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of the California
Youth Authority.
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