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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:32,763 This is the city, Los Angeles California. 2 00:00:32,832 --> 00:00:35,165 Two and one-half million people live here. 3 00:00:35,235 --> 00:00:38,603 Every month, 5,000 more crowd in. 4 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:41,195 Tourists spend over a billion, one hundred 5 00:00:41,219 --> 00:00:44,009 million dollars a year in Southern California. 6 00:00:44,077 --> 00:00:45,773 It's a big business. 7 00:00:45,845 --> 00:00:48,526 On Olvera Street, you can buy the best 8 00:00:48,550 --> 00:00:51,682 Mexican handcrafts this side of Mexico City. 9 00:00:51,751 --> 00:00:54,915 Anything you’re looking for, Los Angeles has it. 10 00:00:54,988 --> 00:00:57,480 If it’s for sale, you can buy it. 11 00:00:57,557 --> 00:00:59,648 Some people don't bother bringing money. 12 00:00:59,672 --> 00:01:02,052 They do their shopping at the point of a gun. 13 00:01:02,128 --> 00:01:05,621 That's when I come in. I carry a badge. 14 00:01:07,133 --> 00:01:09,796 It was Tuesday, June 14. It was clear in Los Angeles. 15 00:01:09,869 --> 00:01:11,914 We were working the day watch out of Robbery Division. 16 00:01:11,938 --> 00:01:15,102 My partner's Bill Gannon. The boss is Captain Howe. 17 00:01:15,175 --> 00:01:17,167 My name's Friday. 18 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:20,236 The Daily Occurrence Report is a measurement of the city. 19 00:01:20,313 --> 00:01:23,579 It's all there: burglaries, holdups, murders. 20 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:26,643 As the city grows, the report grows. 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,714 Part of the extra weight was being contributed by a gang of armed thieves, 22 00:01:30,790 --> 00:01:33,055 specializing in holding up cocktail lounges. 23 00:01:33,126 --> 00:01:36,790 The count to date was six. So far, nobody had been killed. 24 00:01:36,863 --> 00:01:40,197 Number seven might not be so lucky. 25 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:51,209 The story you are about to see is true. 26 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:54,270 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. 27 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:18,361 Bill. Joe. Morning, Skipper. 28 00:02:18,438 --> 00:02:21,670 - How're you coming on those cocktail lounge 211s? - Nothing much so far. 29 00:02:21,741 --> 00:02:25,940 M. O. 's always the same. Four men wearing full-faced, red plastic masks. 30 00:02:26,012 --> 00:02:29,881 Near as we can tell, they haven't hit anything but cocktail lounges—six so far. 31 00:02:29,949 --> 00:02:31,941 Mostly around the Highland Park area. Yeah. 32 00:02:32,018 --> 00:02:35,580 - Suspects always drive a red Cadillac. - Anything else on the car? 33 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:38,056 No license number, but they all agree on one thing. 34 00:02:38,124 --> 00:02:41,458 - What's that? - It's an old model, red convertible. 35 00:02:41,528 --> 00:02:44,555 - Anything show up in the F.I. cards? - Nothing. 36 00:02:44,631 --> 00:02:47,795 Robbery, Howe. 37 00:02:47,867 --> 00:02:50,701 Yeah. Okay. 38 00:02:50,770 --> 00:02:53,934 Yeah, Lou. All right, thanks. 39 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:56,018 Maybe they got something for you over on Georgia Street. 40 00:02:56,042 --> 00:03:00,036 - Yeah, what's that? - Edwards and Beeson have a juvenile in custody for G.T.A. 41 00:03:00,113 --> 00:03:02,139 - Picked up last night in Highland Park. - Yeah? 42 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:06,277 Says he remembers seeing four men in an old model, red Cad convertible. 43 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:21,695 9:32 a.m. Bill and I drove over to Georgia Juvenile. 44 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:27,034 The interrogating officers were Jack Edwards and Frank Beeson. 45 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:30,271 Edwards told us the boy's name was Fred Tillar, aged 1 7. 46 00:03:30,343 --> 00:03:33,006 This was his second offense. He was on probation. 47 00:03:33,079 --> 00:03:35,412 He's a cool one, Joe. He won't give you much. Yeah. 48 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:37,793 Copped out on three other auto thefts. That's all we can get. 49 00:03:37,817 --> 00:03:41,652 Right. Thanks, Jack. Frank. Let us know when you're through, Joe. 50 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:43,690 Right. 51 00:03:47,193 --> 00:03:50,186 Got a couple more questions, son. I already talked to Edwards. 52 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:53,103 Talk to us. Tell us about the four men in that Cadillac. What about 'em? 53 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:54,498 You know 'em? No. 54 00:03:54,567 --> 00:03:56,900 You sure? Edwards asked me if I ever lifted a Caddy. 55 00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:59,462 Told him he must be kidding. Man, those things are boats. 56 00:03:59,539 --> 00:04:02,031 Me, I dig Mustangs. They're really boss. Where'd you see it? 57 00:04:02,108 --> 00:04:04,043 What? The Cadillac. 58 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:06,322 Where the kids hang out. You know, at the drive-in. Where's that? 59 00:04:06,346 --> 00:04:08,838 Sixth and Franklin, but you're wasting your time. Are we? 60 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:11,077 Sure, nobody'd steal that Caddy, man. Why not? 61 00:04:11,151 --> 00:04:13,985 Man, who'd want it? It's a piece of junk. 62 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:21,753 12:28 p.m. Bill and I 63 00:04:21,777 --> 00:04:23,828 checked out the drive-in Tillar told us about. 64 00:04:23,897 --> 00:04:27,390 We asked a waitress named Angie if she had seen a red Cadillac. 65 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:29,628 Red Caddy? Sure, I remember it. A couple of 66 00:04:29,652 --> 00:04:31,837 wise kids. Teenagers. Think they're clever. 67 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:33,965 Yes, ma'am. Do you remember their names? 68 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,033 Who remembers names? I wait on cars, I don't wait on people. 69 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:40,444 You can spot 'em, you know? Take a Buick, always good for a tip. 70 00:04:40,513 --> 00:04:42,278 Little foreign cars, forget it. They stiff 71 00:04:42,302 --> 00:04:44,177 you every time. Can't get a nickel from 'em. 72 00:04:44,250 --> 00:04:46,981 Yes, ma'am. How many did you say were in the car? 73 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:51,718 Two, I think. Yeah, one's a large Coke, the other one's a milk shake. Yeah, two. 74 00:04:51,791 --> 00:04:55,284 - Could you describe them? - Oh, no. Kids all look alike. 75 00:04:55,361 --> 00:04:58,073 Like I said, one's a Coke, and the other one's a milk shake. That's it. 76 00:04:58,097 --> 00:04:59,633 When you took their order, did they say 77 00:04:59,657 --> 00:05:01,457 anything? Mention a name? Anything like that? 78 00:05:01,501 --> 00:05:03,561 - One thing, maybe. - Yes, ma'am? 79 00:05:03,636 --> 00:05:05,771 Well, they were kidding around, you know, and the 80 00:05:05,795 --> 00:05:08,131 Coke says to the milk shake, "It's robbery," he says. 81 00:05:08,208 --> 00:05:11,372 "Yeah," he says, "Larry, she sure robbed the cradle when she married you." 82 00:05:11,444 --> 00:05:14,073 And the milk shake just laughs. Thought it was real funny. 83 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:16,116 Larry. Is that the name he used? 84 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:18,414 Yeah, that's right. Larry. The Coke was kidding him 85 00:05:18,438 --> 00:05:20,916 about his wife. Claimed she looked more like his mother. 86 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:23,582 - Yes, ma'am. Go on. - And one more thing I remember. 87 00:05:23,656 --> 00:05:26,023 - What's that? - They didn't leave a tip. 88 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:36,086 We figured there was a chance the suspect, 89 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:38,147 known only as Larry, could've been in trouble before. 90 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:41,767 If so, the officers at Juvenile Division might be able to help us again. 91 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:45,505 1:33 p.m. We checked back with Officer Jack Edwards. 92 00:05:45,578 --> 00:05:48,013 Hi, Jack. Friday. Hi, Gannon. 93 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:49,743 Keeping you busy? All the time. 94 00:05:49,816 --> 00:05:51,753 We're looking for a kid, first name Larry, no 95 00:05:51,777 --> 00:05:53,651 last name. Chance you might've handled him? 96 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,212 I might've handled a thousand Larrys. Yeah, we know, Jack. 97 00:05:56,289 --> 00:05:58,224 We got something that might help. What's that? 98 00:05:58,291 --> 00:06:01,625 He might be married to an older woman. Now, does that mean anything to you? 99 00:06:01,694 --> 00:06:05,859 Yeah. Yeah, sure. Larry, uh... 100 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:11,368 Larry... Hubbert. Sure, we've handled him before. 101 00:06:13,306 --> 00:06:15,798 Here his package. County camp graduate. 102 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:19,403 Kind of a weird setup, Joe. Larry's 17. Edna—that's the wife... 103 00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:22,813 Gotta be at least 10-12 years older than him. Anything on her? 104 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:25,613 - No. Clean as far as we know. - Got the address, Jack? 105 00:06:25,685 --> 00:06:27,813 Yeah, uh, 8854 Wilton. 106 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:30,550 Thanks a lot, Jack. What's Hubbert up to now? 107 00:06:30,623 --> 00:06:32,649 211. We figure three adults in the gang. 108 00:06:32,725 --> 00:06:36,355 - Kid'll never learn, I guess. - Well, it might help if he'd do one thing. 109 00:06:36,429 --> 00:06:39,456 - What's that? - Stick to people his own age. 110 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:48,744 2:15 p.m. The Wilton Street 111 00:06:48,768 --> 00:06:50,804 address was in an older section of the city. 112 00:06:50,877 --> 00:06:54,712 It was neat and well-kept, like the Cadillac parked at the curb. 113 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:58,612 Without a warrant, we couldn't shake down the car. 114 00:06:58,685 --> 00:07:02,122 We would have to question Larry Hubbert first, try to get his permission. 115 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,421 You Larry Hubbert? Yeah. 116 00:07:08,494 --> 00:07:10,963 Police officers. All right if we come in? You Juvie cops? 117 00:07:11,030 --> 00:07:13,522 Robbery Division. Where's Edwards? I don't know you guys. 118 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:16,501 Well, maybe it's time you did, son. Why don't you come right in? 119 00:07:18,338 --> 00:07:20,830 How come Edwards isn't with you? I give him all my business. 120 00:07:20,907 --> 00:07:24,571 We're living in the age of specialization, son. You own that Cadillac parked outside? 121 00:07:24,644 --> 00:07:27,307 Well, yeah— Just stay put. Keep your hands out of your pockets. 122 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:30,714 Yeah, that's my car. Neat, isn't it? You know, I fixed that thing up myself. 123 00:07:30,783 --> 00:07:33,116 What are you guys looking for? Some answers. 124 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:35,849 Hey, uh, is it all right if I put a shirt on? I'm kind of cold. 125 00:07:35,922 --> 00:07:37,857 Where is it? In the bedroom. 126 00:07:37,924 --> 00:07:39,859 We'll both go. Sure. 127 00:07:39,926 --> 00:07:41,861 I'll check the kitchen. 128 00:07:44,397 --> 00:07:46,957 Freeze! 129 00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:49,526 All right, now. You just stand still and keep those 130 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:51,869 hands in plain sight where I can see 'em. Bill! 131 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:05,216 Get your hands behind your back. 132 00:08:05,284 --> 00:08:08,448 Now, suppose you just sit down on the end of the bed. 133 00:08:08,521 --> 00:08:11,355 I'll check it through C.I.I. Right. 134 00:08:11,424 --> 00:08:13,290 All right, son, you're under arrest. It's my 135 00:08:13,314 --> 00:08:15,418 duty to inform you of your constitutional rights. 136 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:17,309 You have the right to remain silent. Any statement 137 00:08:17,333 --> 00:08:19,208 you make may be used against you in a court of law. 138 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:21,192 You have the right to the presence of an attorney. 139 00:08:21,234 --> 00:08:22,782 If you desire an attorney and cannot afford one, 140 00:08:22,806 --> 00:08:24,279 one will be appointed before any questioning. 141 00:08:24,303 --> 00:08:26,303 Do you understand that? Yeah, I've heard it before. 142 00:08:26,372 --> 00:08:28,341 Do you understand it? Okay. I understand it. 143 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:30,570 Where'd you get the gun? A friend gave it to me. 144 00:08:30,643 --> 00:08:33,135 What friend? Just a guy who borrows my car once and a while. 145 00:08:33,212 --> 00:08:36,046 He gave it to me to pay for using the car, that's all. What's his name? 146 00:08:36,115 --> 00:08:38,778 Why should I find out? I can give you a couple of reasons. 147 00:08:38,851 --> 00:08:41,296 You're on probation. Possession of a deadly weapon. Is that enough? 148 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,255 It was a gift. Did you ever point it at anybody? 149 00:08:43,322 --> 00:08:46,486 I told you, the guy gave it to me for using the car. Tell me so I believe it. 150 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,552 Guy's name was Jones. You wanna try for Smith or Brown? I want it straight. 151 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:53,464 I'm leveling with you. Can I help it if the guy's name is Jones? I met him at work. 152 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:56,196 Where's that? Burbank. Phillips Industries. 153 00:08:56,269 --> 00:09:00,206 They make that plastic tile stuff, you know, that they glue on counters? 154 00:09:00,273 --> 00:09:02,765 This Jones, he work there too, does he? Yeah. Then he quit. 155 00:09:02,842 --> 00:09:04,834 What'd you do, retire? No. I'm sick today. 156 00:09:04,911 --> 00:09:06,846 Oh, sure you are. Who are you? 157 00:09:06,913 --> 00:09:09,246 We're police officers, ma'am. What are you doing here? 158 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:11,216 Are you Edna Hubbert? I'm Mrs. Hubbert, yes. 159 00:09:11,284 --> 00:09:14,118 Is this your husband? Yes. Did you have to put those handcuffs on him? 160 00:09:14,187 --> 00:09:16,830 He has a gun, ma'am. It's hot, Joe. One of seven 161 00:09:16,854 --> 00:09:19,854 taken in a 459 from a sporting goods store last month. 162 00:09:19,926 --> 00:09:22,589 Mm-hmm. Before or after the red-mask holdups? Before. 163 00:09:22,662 --> 00:09:25,374 All right, son. Tell me where you got that gun. What's this about a red mask? 164 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,598 She doesn't know anything. Six cocktail lounges 165 00:09:27,622 --> 00:09:29,893 were held up, all by four men wearing red masks. 166 00:09:29,969 --> 00:09:32,131 They drove a car like Larry's, and Larry has a gun. 167 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:34,868 What'd he tell you? Back out of this, Edna, will you? 168 00:09:34,941 --> 00:09:37,103 She doesn't know anything. Honest. Sergeant? 169 00:09:37,176 --> 00:09:40,010 Yes, ma'am? Could I talk to you alone a minute? 170 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:42,708 Yes, ma'am. 171 00:09:45,384 --> 00:09:50,584 I, uh—I don't want Larry to hear this. He doesn't like his wife to interfere. 172 00:09:50,656 --> 00:09:55,458 - I understand, ma'am. - I don't think Larry did this, whatever you said he did. 173 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:59,693 - We have to check it out, ma'am. - But even if he did, it's not his fault, you know. 174 00:09:59,765 --> 00:10:02,200 - I'm the one should be arrested. - How's that? 175 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:07,002 Well, I work nights... cashier in a coffee shop, and there's nobody. 176 00:10:07,073 --> 00:10:10,874 - Nobody? - Well, there's nobody to look after him while I'm out. 177 00:10:10,943 --> 00:10:13,913 Well, now, looks to me like he can take care of himself. 178 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:17,678 - But he's only a boy. - Well, I guess you know that better than I do, ma'am. 179 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:20,151 - You disapprove of me, don't you? - Should I? 180 00:10:20,219 --> 00:10:22,518 - You're like everybody else. - How's that? 181 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:25,372 I can hear 'em when I come home. Whispering and 182 00:10:25,396 --> 00:10:28,084 pointing fingers and laughing behind my back. 183 00:10:28,161 --> 00:10:32,064 They think it's funny. I'm not ashamed. 184 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:34,858 Why shouldn't I have what everybody else has 185 00:10:34,882 --> 00:10:37,570 got? A little happiness. That's all I want. 186 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:40,835 Yes, ma'am. He's better off with me, you know. 187 00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:44,571 It's a nice home. It's clean. Nice things. 188 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:48,137 - He wouldn't have it if it wasn't for me. - Yes, ma'am. 189 00:10:48,214 --> 00:10:51,013 Guess you think all he sees in me is somebody to pay the bills. 190 00:10:51,083 --> 00:10:54,451 - No, ma'am. - I'm only 29. 191 00:10:55,922 --> 00:10:58,915 Well, I'm not so old. 192 00:10:58,991 --> 00:11:04,294 Maybe I'm not so pretty, but, well, he could've had his pick. I know that. 193 00:11:04,363 --> 00:11:07,265 They make it easy for him. Who's that, ma'am? 194 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:11,498 Birds, he calls 'em. The teenage girls. 195 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:13,767 You know, short skirts and showing everything? 196 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:18,800 Stand around on corners, making eyes. The delinquents. 197 00:11:18,878 --> 00:11:22,144 - Well, that's what they are, you know. - I wouldn't know, ma'am. 198 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:24,878 - Larry used to be. - Used to be what? 199 00:11:24,951 --> 00:11:29,047 A delinquent. He was always getting into trouble. 200 00:11:29,121 --> 00:11:31,945 But nobody wanted him, you see? Nobody. He'd 201 00:11:31,969 --> 00:11:34,753 still be on the street if it wasn't for me. 202 00:11:34,827 --> 00:11:38,320 - Is that so? - I rescued him. 203 00:11:38,397 --> 00:11:40,491 You-You see these books? 204 00:11:40,566 --> 00:11:43,764 They're his. He's very intelligent. 205 00:11:43,836 --> 00:11:47,466 He goes to the library. Has a card and everything. 206 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,806 We read a lot, you know, together. 207 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:53,607 - Well, that's better, isn't it? - Better than what? 208 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,411 - Than being alone? - Yes, ma'am. 209 00:11:57,483 --> 00:12:01,079 - Sergeant? - Yes, ma'am? 210 00:12:01,153 --> 00:12:05,284 I don't know where his parents are. Does that make a difference? 211 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:07,259 Well, I wouldn't know, ma'am. 212 00:12:07,326 --> 00:12:09,591 Larry won't let me contact them. 213 00:12:09,662 --> 00:12:11,995 Know what I think? What's that? 214 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:16,729 I think he's ashamed. They're poor people, you know. 215 00:12:16,802 --> 00:12:20,170 - They're, well, not used to nice things. - I see. 216 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:25,268 Well, that makes me his guardian, doesn't it? I mean, being his wife? 217 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,506 No. I doubt that, ma'am. 218 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,675 But, as his wife, it's my duty to inform you of your constitutional rights. 219 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,242 Now, both you and Larry have the right to remain silent. 220 00:12:33,319 --> 00:12:35,879 Any statement you make may be used against you in a court of law. 221 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:37,913 You have the right to the presence of an attorney. 222 00:12:37,990 --> 00:12:39,855 If you desire an attorney and can't afford one, 223 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:41,688 one will be appointed before any questioning. 224 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,788 - Do you understand that, ma'am? - Yes. 225 00:12:53,139 --> 00:12:55,301 Found it in the closet, Joe. 226 00:12:57,376 --> 00:13:00,540 Sergeant, did you mean what you said before? 227 00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:04,778 What's that, ma'am? About if I couldn't afford an attorney? 228 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:06,842 Yes, ma'am. 229 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:10,583 I guess maybe we need one. 230 00:13:16,095 --> 00:13:20,089 3:48 p.m. We returned to Georgia Juvenile with the suspect. 231 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:24,501 Although we had decided not to detain Mrs. Hubbert, she insisted on coming anyway. 232 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:28,803 Mrs. Hubbert called the public defender's office to arrange for an attorney. 233 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:30,810 Bill and I took the subject to the Juvenile squad 234 00:13:30,834 --> 00:13:32,714 room. We turned Hubbert over to Jack Edwards... 235 00:13:32,778 --> 00:13:35,548 to be booked under Section 602 of the Welfare 236 00:13:35,572 --> 00:13:38,615 and Institutions Code for a 2 1 1 P. C., Robbery. 237 00:13:38,684 --> 00:13:41,059 Since further interrogation of Larry Hubbert 238 00:13:41,083 --> 00:13:43,645 would have to await the arrival of an attorney, 239 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:45,885 we decided to check out the one lead he had given us. 240 00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:49,622 Without a first name on Jones, we couldn't run it through R&I. 241 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:53,689 But we figured that Phillips Industries, the place Hubbert claimed he met Jones, 242 00:13:53,766 --> 00:13:56,930 would be the best place to check it out. 243 00:13:57,002 --> 00:13:59,594 4:15 p.m. Because of the outbound commuter 244 00:13:59,618 --> 00:14:02,669 traffic, it took us 20 minutes to get to Burbank. 245 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:08,945 Phillips Industries was a medium-sized, combination plant-and-showroom operation. 246 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:11,083 The personnel manager, Mr. Bernard Ashton, 247 00:14:11,107 --> 00:14:13,349 told us they employed about a hundred people. 248 00:14:13,419 --> 00:14:15,854 He didn't remember either Hubbert or Jones. 249 00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:18,070 We get a lot of transients, you know. They think 250 00:14:18,094 --> 00:14:20,086 the grass is always greener down the street. 251 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,493 Most of our people have been with us 10, 12 years though. Good, solid people. 252 00:14:23,562 --> 00:14:26,361 - Yes, sir. - Larry Hubbert, good, solid lad. 253 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:28,264 - It's a shame though. - How's that? 254 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:30,218 He missed four or five days’ work last month. 255 00:14:30,242 --> 00:14:31,896 Keeps that up, I'll have to let him go. 256 00:14:31,971 --> 00:14:35,203 - Yes, sir. - Oh, that Jones fella, what's his first name? 257 00:14:35,274 --> 00:14:37,743 We don't know, sir. We'd like you to tell us. 258 00:14:37,810 --> 00:14:43,477 I got three here. Uh, "Jones, Robert M." He's been with us for eight years. 259 00:14:43,549 --> 00:14:47,042 "Jones, James A." A little short fella. He does finishing work. 260 00:14:47,119 --> 00:14:49,452 Has a way about him, you know? He jokes a lot. 261 00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:53,516 "Jones, Donald R." Huh, that's interesting. 262 00:14:53,592 --> 00:14:56,721 - What's that? - This fella left us five or six weeks ago. 263 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:58,924 Now, that's real funny. What's that, sir? 264 00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:02,867 His closing check. He never came back to get it. 265 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:13,042 With Jones's address provided by Ashton, 266 00:15:13,112 --> 00:15:17,106 we arranged for the nearest black-and-white unit to try and pick him up immediately. 267 00:15:18,984 --> 00:15:22,148 The black-and-white unit reported that Jones was not at home. 268 00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:25,487 We asked that another Robbery Division unit stake out the apartment house... 269 00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:29,893 while we returned to P.A. B. To check Jones through R&I. 270 00:15:29,962 --> 00:15:32,796 We ran the name "Donald R. Jones" through R&I. 271 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:35,699 He had done time at San Quentin for armed robbery. 272 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,663 He was out on parole. He had not checked with 273 00:15:38,687 --> 00:15:41,605 Al Tucker, his parole officer, for six weeks. 274 00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:45,167 It looked like he had gone back to his old habits. 275 00:15:45,244 --> 00:15:49,409 With the stakeout on Jones's apartment, we decided to return to Georgia Juvenile. 276 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:53,476 6:12 p.m. This is my attorney, Mr. Auerbach. 277 00:15:53,552 --> 00:15:55,885 How do you do, sir? This is Bill Gannon. How are you? 278 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:59,153 Joe Friday. Glad to know you. I've talked to the boy. Do you wanna fill me in? 279 00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:02,821 We're holding him under W.I.C. 602, 211 P.C., Robbery. 280 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:07,458 - On what grounds? - Gang always wore full-face, plastic red masks. He had one. 281 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:09,502 He was also in possession of a stolen gun. 282 00:16:09,568 --> 00:16:13,335 They can't keep him in jail, can they? A 17-year-old boy? 283 00:16:13,405 --> 00:16:16,898 - That's the best thing he's got going for him, Mrs. Hubbert. - What's that? 284 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,969 His age, being 1 7. You see, juvenile law in California... 285 00:16:20,045 --> 00:16:23,345 is based on a concept of correction and rehabilitation, not punishment. 286 00:16:23,415 --> 00:16:26,783 I've talked to him. He knows he can remain silent. 287 00:16:26,852 --> 00:16:28,510 But after a hearing, it could influence a 288 00:16:28,534 --> 00:16:30,380 judge to declare Larry unfit as a juvenile... 289 00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:33,449 and remand him for trial as an adult. 290 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:35,035 The judge might have a lot in favor of that 291 00:16:35,059 --> 00:16:36,771 argument. Larry has a record. He's on probation. 292 00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:39,230 He's married. He's functioning as an adult. 293 00:16:39,298 --> 00:16:40,878 I think the police would have to come up with 294 00:16:40,902 --> 00:16:42,577 more evidence to convict him for armed robbery. 295 00:16:42,601 --> 00:16:44,613 But if they've got what Gannon here says they've got, 296 00:16:44,637 --> 00:16:48,039 there's a good chance they could put Larry away for a while right now. 297 00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:50,557 Now, if Larry were to make a clean breast of it, the 298 00:16:50,581 --> 00:16:53,102 judge might view that as an indication of repentance. 299 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:56,478 It could make it easier on him. That's just my opinion, you understand? 300 00:16:56,549 --> 00:16:59,314 You want Larry to confess. Is that what you want? 301 00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:02,719 No. That's up to Larry. I told him what I'm telling you. 302 00:17:02,788 --> 00:17:06,122 - He wanted to know what you thought. - What'd you tell him? 303 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,558 I just told you. If he's innocent, he has nothing to hide. 304 00:17:08,627 --> 00:17:12,155 If he's guilty, I'd advise him to admit his guilt. It's to his benefit to do so. 305 00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:15,827 It's not fair, Mr. Auerbach. It's not fair at all. 306 00:17:15,901 --> 00:17:18,700 Mrs. Hubbert, I just explain the way the law works. 307 00:17:18,771 --> 00:17:22,833 It really doesn't make any difference, does it? Whether he confesses or not? 308 00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:27,243 - How's that, ma'am? - Well, they'll take him away from me. 309 00:17:27,313 --> 00:17:30,545 I lose either way, don't I? 310 00:17:44,163 --> 00:17:47,565 6:43 p.m. Acting on the advice of his attorney, 311 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:49,625 Larry Hubbert made a full confession. 312 00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:54,367 He implicated Donald Jones as the leader and named two other accomplices. 313 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,070 We put out an A. P. B. To have them picked up. 314 00:17:58,143 --> 00:18:00,763 Under California law, the confession of an accomplice 315 00:18:00,787 --> 00:18:03,480 without corroboration, is never sufficient to convict. 316 00:18:03,549 --> 00:18:06,007 The red masks Hubbert and the others wore, 317 00:18:06,031 --> 00:18:09,045 prevented positive identification by their victims. 318 00:18:09,121 --> 00:18:13,115 Unless they all confessed, we felt we didn't have enough to take to court. 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,482 7:20 p.m. We returned to Jones's apartment house and 320 00:18:17,506 --> 00:18:20,297 checked in with the team on stakeout, Chitwood and Emlet. 321 00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:23,530 They had nothing to report. No sign of the suspect. 322 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:25,410 They drove around to the rear of the building 323 00:18:25,434 --> 00:18:27,266 to relieve the team on stakeout in the alley. 324 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,769 7:44 p.m. 325 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:59,461 Police officers. Stand still. Open that box, you're a dead man. Put it down. Now! 326 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:09,145 Keep those hands out of your pockets, lady. 327 00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:12,548 Would somebody tell me what this is all about? You just stay quiet. 328 00:19:12,618 --> 00:19:14,587 You're under arrest. For what, illegal parking? 329 00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,525 Just shut up and listen, both of you. It's my 330 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:18,613 duty to advise you of your constitutional rights. 331 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:20,538 You have the right to remain silent. Any statement 332 00:19:20,562 --> 00:19:22,470 you make may be used against you in a court of law. 333 00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:24,305 You have the right to the presence of an attorney. 334 00:19:24,329 --> 00:19:26,185 If you desire an attorney and can't afford one, 335 00:19:26,209 --> 00:19:28,009 one will be appointed before any questioning. 336 00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:31,367 - Yeah, you finished? - Do you understand that, Jones? 337 00:19:31,437 --> 00:19:32,803 - Yeah. - You? 338 00:19:32,871 --> 00:19:34,897 - She understands it. - Do you? 339 00:19:34,973 --> 00:19:36,771 Yes. 340 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:40,506 - These belong to you, lady? - She's a collector. 341 00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:42,599 He gimme the case. I didn't know what was in it. 342 00:19:42,623 --> 00:19:43,481 Why'd you carry it? 343 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:47,543 It was pretty. Real talent, huh? All body, no brain. 344 00:19:47,619 --> 00:19:50,453 Good thing for you I'm slow. Is that right? 345 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:54,550 - Little faster, you'd know how dead feels. - Well, now, what else would you like to tell us? 346 00:19:54,626 --> 00:19:57,460 That's it, cop. You heard it from me. 347 00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:59,657 Hang on to 'em. We'll shake the apartment. 348 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:03,293 What are you looking for, cop? My little black book? 349 00:20:03,368 --> 00:20:05,837 We'll settle for a red mask. 350 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:14,723 The shakedown of Jones's apartment gave us nothing more to go on. 351 00:20:14,747 --> 00:20:17,740 He refused to talk, and under the law, we could go no further. 352 00:20:17,816 --> 00:20:19,978 We took him downtown to be booked. 353 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:23,216 The guns we found in the girl's makeup kit... 354 00:20:23,288 --> 00:20:26,884 were taken in the same 459 as the gun we took from Larry Hubbert. 355 00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,451 We knew we had Jones for parole violation. 356 00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:33,522 We wanted him and the other two members of the gang for the red mask holdups. 357 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:37,092 9:15 p.m. Boy, I got that migraine again. 358 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,161 Yeah? What time did we have lunch? 359 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:41,207 We didn't. We didn't? 360 00:20:41,273 --> 00:20:43,606 No. You hungry? 361 00:20:43,675 --> 00:20:46,008 I could eat. Me too. 362 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:48,912 Maybe I oughta call Tuck. Jones's P.O.? 363 00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:50,813 Yeah. Figure he can get him to talk? 364 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:52,852 Might be worth a try. 365 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:58,684 9:45 p.m. Bill picked up a sandwich, 366 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:01,090 and I went back to the squad room to wait for Al Tucker. 367 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,719 He'd been working late. I filled him in while Bill 368 00:21:03,743 --> 00:21:06,326 waited in the interrogation room with the suspect. 369 00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:10,392 Parole officers are a special breed: half policeman, half social worker. 370 00:21:10,469 --> 00:21:12,190 They have to take the rejects of society 371 00:21:12,214 --> 00:21:14,133 and try to make decent citizens out of them. 372 00:21:14,206 --> 00:21:17,301 It's a tough job. Tougher because there's not enough of 'em to go around. 373 00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:20,869 Most ex-convicts have a lot of respect for their parole officers. 374 00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:24,940 They get close. They have to. Their parole officer has to approve almost everything. 375 00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:27,680 Where they live. Where they work. What time they get home at night. 376 00:21:27,753 --> 00:21:31,315 Jones was no exception. 377 00:21:36,662 --> 00:21:39,154 I blew it, huh? All the way. 378 00:21:39,231 --> 00:21:43,225 You quit your job. You moved. You didn't check in. Here you are again. 379 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:47,967 I thought you were squaring, Don? I got bored with making tile. 380 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:53,035 What'd you have? Nine months, 10 months out of the joint? 381 00:21:53,111 --> 00:21:55,774 Things were going sweet till these guys showed up. 382 00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:58,511 You wanna tell me about it? In front of them? 383 00:21:58,584 --> 00:22:01,748 Look, Tucker, I got the right to stay silent and I'm staying silent. 384 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:03,914 Wait for you outside, Tuck. All right. 385 00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:07,482 Now, look, Don, this sort of an attitude isn't going to get you anywhere. 386 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,357 You wanna bite? 387 00:22:09,428 --> 00:22:11,158 No, thanks. You sure? 388 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:15,395 Sure. Corned beef, imported Swiss, lettuce, Russian dressing, coleslaw, 389 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:18,252 kosher pickle, slice of tomato, mayonnaise, peanut 390 00:22:18,276 --> 00:22:20,804 butter, horseradish and a little hot mustard. 391 00:22:20,873 --> 00:22:23,035 No, thanks. Sure, now? It's an awful good sandwich. 392 00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:25,771 Sounds like a seven-course meal. Well, it's a little filling. 393 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:29,679 You think he'll cop out to Tuck? Save an awful lot of time if he does. 394 00:22:35,687 --> 00:22:38,179 He'll talk to you now. What'd you do, Tuck? 395 00:22:38,257 --> 00:22:41,421 Nothing any other parole officer couldn't do. What's that? 396 00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:44,986 Well, Jones figures he's bound to go back to the joint one way or the other. Yeah? 397 00:22:45,063 --> 00:22:49,057 There's more than 200 different prison jobs they can hand him up there at Quentin. 398 00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:52,627 You remember him saying he didn't like making tile? Yeah, I do. 399 00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,639 Well, he told me he'd like to try metal work. 400 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:58,871 I can recommend what job he gets. I told him I'd see what I could do. 401 00:22:58,944 --> 00:23:02,608 You know, Jones told me something. I don't know if he'll mention it to you. 402 00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:05,515 It's not really important. Thought you might want it for your case. 403 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:09,077 What's that, Tuck? Well, it's about that kid, that teenager Larry Hubbert? 404 00:23:09,154 --> 00:23:12,818 Oh, yeah. What about him? Gonna be a father. 405 00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:15,725 Well, I missed dinner. Guess I'd better be getting on home. 406 00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:18,286 Don't rush off, Tuck. I got half a sandwich. 407 00:23:18,363 --> 00:23:21,356 Yeah? What's in it? Oh, you'll love it. 408 00:23:21,433 --> 00:23:24,096 Corned beef, imported Swiss... Good night, Bill. 409 00:23:24,169 --> 00:23:26,661 Lettuce, Russian dressing... Tuck, I'll see you. 410 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:30,573 Coleslaw, kosher pickle, a slice of tomato... 411 00:23:37,582 --> 00:23:40,245 The story you have just seen is true. 412 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,788 The names were changed to protect the innocent. 413 00:23:44,389 --> 00:23:46,221 On September 15, 414 00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:48,385 trial was held in Department 180, 415 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:50,520 Superior Court of the State of California, 416 00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:52,791 in and for the County of Los Angeles. 417 00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:55,129 In a moment, the results of that trial. 418 00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:01,701 The suspects were found guilty on two counts of armed robbery. 419 00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:04,709 Robbery in the first degree is punishable by imprisonment... 420 00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:07,610 in the state prison for not less than five years. 421 00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:17,915 After a hearing, the juvenile suspect was remanded to the custody... 422 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:20,289 of the California Youth Authority. 39333

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