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Previously, on
"Super Pumped"...
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He's just gonna see
a guy in his lame jeans
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and these fucking shoes.
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Yeah, he'll see
you're a dung-colored man.
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Your ideas will matter.
Not your clothes.
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- He'll see that.
- Grow or die.
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- Full access card?
- You come and go
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at Uber cab as you please.
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- One of us?
- Full access.
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Nice.
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Boom! You just got
grey-balled, motherfucker!
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Is this illegal?
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VCs have a purpose other
than just writing a check.
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I have a purpose.
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Advising, vision shaping.
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Really? You're not owed
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anything except a return,
which I will give you.
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I'm the one who put you in here,
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I'm the one
who can take you out, too.
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I say we keep
Bill close for now.
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But you keep
doing what you're doing.
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We're killing it.
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- TK, this is...
- Gabi Holzwarth.
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- What did you say to her?
- I told her she needed to meet
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the next Jeff Bezos.
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Hi, what made you choose Lyft
instead of Uber?
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It's so much cheaper,
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and the drivers
are super friendly.
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We make more money.
And we get tips.
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These motherfuckers.
They're stealing all my shit!
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Oh, we're going to fucking war.
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*SUPERPUMPED THE BATTLE FOR UBER
Season 01 Episode 03.
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Episode Title: "War"
Aired on: March 13, 2022.
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We had 93% of the market
on lock.
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We invented this shit.
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But now, look at heaven.
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Look at what it's telling us.
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Our first-mover advantage
is dimming.
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And what's taking it?
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Lyft.
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John fucking Zimmer?
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This guy's been drafting on our
speed the whole Tour de France.
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He's always been behind us,
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and now he's gonna pretend
like he's winning?
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I'm the one in the yellow
fucking jersey.
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We need to just knock
these assholes off the road.
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Are the drivers
the assholes or...?
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Lyft, fucker. Lyft.
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I am being cucked now.
What are we doing about it?
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Well, the drivers
like the optionality.
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We can't stop
our guys from double-apping
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and driving for both.
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We should just buy Lyft.
Absorb them.
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We don't have
the war chest for that.
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- Okay, let's get it.
- Look, who cares
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about John Zimmer's
little rideshare company?
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You've got a powerful brand.
Build it.
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Keep your focus on that.
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Stop obsessing over Lyft.
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You know, Bill,
I get your point.
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But we are in the war room
right now.
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And it seems none
of you guys want to go to war,
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but that's what this is.
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And you don't get it done
with milk and cookies.
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You're quoting
Bobby Knight at me?
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- Nice.
- Look, you are so fucking good,
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but this isn't zero-sum
like a basketball game is.
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That's exactly what it is.
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Uber right now
is like Google was
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at the dawn of search.
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One entrant in a crowded pool.
What did Google do?
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They flattened
their competitors,
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and now they're fucking Google.
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Google did it by being better,
not by being Al Capone.
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"Don't be evil" ring a bell?
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Yeah. Tell that to AltaVista.
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It's funny you say Capone,
though.
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I remember my parents
never wanted to get us cable
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because they thought
we were just, like,
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watching MTV all day
or something.
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But then eventually they caved
when I was, like, seven.
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And the first weekend we had it,
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my dad found The Untouchables,
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because he thought it was like
history or something.
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Because, you know, it is.
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Okay, right, so my...
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My dad and Cory and me
were sitting there
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watching this, like,
history lesson.
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I'd have started you
on The Dirty Dozen,
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like my dad did me, but sure.
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Okay, but De Niro as Capone.
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That banquet scene with the bat.
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Capone was just like, walking...
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talking, and then bam!
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Fucking brains that guy.
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That shit changed me.
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I felt like my skull
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that just got hit with a bat.
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I couldn't sleep for, like,
a week.
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I felt horrible for the guy.
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I mean,
he just gets brained at dinner.
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But I saw the point.
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He had it coming.
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Uh, I don't know if he did.
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That's not important.
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The point is, that shit worked.
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You crack a guy's cranium open
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between the soup
and the fish dish?
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You know, you make
an example of somebody,
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people start to fall in line.
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That is what needs
to happen here.
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Just to clarify,
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you want to beat the drivers
into submission?
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I want to win.
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And disloyalty,
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however it shows its face,
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that needs to be punished.
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Well, we're not the Mob, though.
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Okay, but if you don't want to
own this whole fucking business,
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like it's prohibition and we're
the only ones making gin,
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then why are we here?
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You threatened them
with a baseball bat?
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No, not them... exactly.
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It was a meta...
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What I'm saying is,
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sometimes fear works.
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Not that it... I don't know.
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I don't know what I'm saying.
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You make me nervous.
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No, I don't,
but it's a good line.
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Every once in a while.
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So tell me about the violin.
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I guess I didn't know
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that I really wanted
to play at first.
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It felt like homework.
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And eventually,
it became my best friend.
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Plus, playing, you burn almost
200 calories an hour.
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Is that right?
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What else do I need
to know about you?
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Maybe that I'm surprised
that we're here together.
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When we met,
we spoke so briefly.
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I didn't know what you thought.
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I was surprised
when you came and found me
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playing at the farmer's market.
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No, you weren't.
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But it's a good line.
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- Every once in a while.
- Uh-huh.
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Here you are.
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Thank you.
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So, what do you play
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to burn off the best meal
in the Bay Area?
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"Sibelius," probably.
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The concerto in D minor
if we're having dessert.
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Okay, hold on,
I need the full download
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on everything
I need to listen to
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so I can know how great you are.
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Thank God for Ek.
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Ek?
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Yeah. Ek is a founder, like me.
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I actually tried to crack
this space with the company,
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but Ek did it.
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It's Spotify.
See, look, you just, uh,
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put in everything there
that I need to listen to.
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I can tell you're thinking hard.
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It's important.
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What are you doing?
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I'm just putting in a code
to give you free Uber.
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I prefer Lyft.
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Careful.
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Come on in.
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Sorry, I've, uh,
sort of been in work mode.
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I've seen worse.
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I call this place my Jam Pad.
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I think I'll kiss you anyway.
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Portrait of a man at war.
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Yeah, that's great. Nice.
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Well, I'm not at war.
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I'm sitting in
a booth somewhere
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telling you about this guy
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who is, in fact,
very much at fucking war.
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Are we doing it?
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We're doing it.
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They say good wars,
winnable ones,
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are fought on a single front.
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But what if you have to win
on all the fucking fronts?
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New plan. We're gonna step up
the information technology
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on our drivers.
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You mean surveillance.
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We don't have to use words
like that.
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- Hello.
- Hey, there.
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So, uh, you like driving?
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It's a good way to meet people.
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Yeah, I bet.
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And, uh, San Francisco,
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you probably get
a lot of crazies, huh?
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You think we can modify
having to figure out
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who the double-appers are?
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Snoop around
in our drivers' phones,
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see if they ever used
the Lyft app.
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Might be doable.
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Might cross the line.
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Might be a good time to consider
the business you've chosen.
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And what if it's not
a finite war,
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but a forever war?
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Well, then you do
what you have to,
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and anyone calls you out
on the morality,
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that motherfucker
is either a child, an enemy,
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or a fucking traitor.
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So I see you have both logos
and both apps.
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But you're not more
of a Lyft guy, are you?
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Just asking, because I happen
to know that Uber
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has some very special incentives
coming online right now.
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Okay, okay, hold on.
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- Halas.
- You quit?
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I quit Lyft.
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The bonuses Uber is offering,
you have no idea.
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We are thrilled to have you
exclusive to Uber.
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- Twenty dollars a mile?
- Yeah.
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And the price for the rider
stays the same.
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We just appreciate your loyalty.
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And, uh, tell all your friends,
okay?
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So they are
just giving away money?
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No, no, no, habiti.
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They're giving away money to us.
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It's very different.
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Fucking work-life balance.
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If I hear those
three words again...
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- What's up?
- We can find them now,
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the double-appers.
Pretty soon, anyway.
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We won't have to go one by one
from the field.
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We can do it all from here.
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And they'll never know
we're scanning their phones?
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Hold on, well,
if we can get in their phones,
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we can turn on the mics
and the cameras.
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We can find out
who's taking Lyft?
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Can.
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Not sure I'd want
to see what happens
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in the back of those cars.
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- She's the prettier one.
- Yeah, I know.
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Look, I can't help it.
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You are insecure
about this shit.
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What am I supposed to say?
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No, you look like shit
in that bikini?
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Oh, it's all right.
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It's all right.
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Sometimes I wish you were dead.
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Great. Fucking wonder...
You know what?
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Sometimes,
I wish I was dead too.
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Dude!
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Whoa, shake that thing now.
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- Shake that thing.
- Baby, shake that thing now.
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Shake that thing
Baby, shake that thing
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Austin sent out street teams to
request and cancel Lyft rides,
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which peels off
some of the drivers.
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Now, this is the same idea,
just less analog.
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00:13:18,003 --> 00:13:19,981
Let's go. By the way,
did she move to the regulators?
257
00:13:20,005 --> 00:13:21,589
Yep.
258
00:13:21,673 --> 00:13:23,258
So now you got your espionage
259
00:13:23,342 --> 00:13:26,094
with a solid helping
of clandestine attacks.
260
00:13:26,178 --> 00:13:28,263
And then, of course,
261
00:13:28,347 --> 00:13:29,764
you've got your frontal attack.
262
00:13:29,848 --> 00:13:32,559
- Miss Geidt.
- My team took 20 Lyft rides
263
00:13:32,643 --> 00:13:34,728
over the past 24 hours,
264
00:13:34,812 --> 00:13:38,106
which means we got in the back
of Class C licensed vehicles,
265
00:13:38,190 --> 00:13:41,776
driven by regular
old civilians for Lyft.
266
00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:44,112
Well, unless you were
forced by gunpoint, I don't...
267
00:13:44,196 --> 00:13:46,676
Just wondering when you're gonna
start enforcing the law.
268
00:13:49,743 --> 00:13:53,955
We are monitoring the situation
very closely.
269
00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,583
Yeah, I can tell.
270
00:13:58,710 --> 00:14:02,005
The thing is, we care too much
about passenger safety
271
00:14:02,089 --> 00:14:05,091
to let Betty the soccer mom
turn her Prius into a cab
272
00:14:05,175 --> 00:14:06,926
to pay for her Vicodin habit,
273
00:14:07,010 --> 00:14:09,512
but you've got us
considering it.
274
00:14:09,596 --> 00:14:14,100
Well, I will certainly alert
the soccer moms ASAP.
275
00:14:14,184 --> 00:14:16,895
Though I have a feeling...
276
00:14:16,979 --> 00:14:19,063
the drivers aren't
the middle-aged,
277
00:14:19,147 --> 00:14:21,232
drug-addled dilettantes
you're conjuring,
278
00:14:21,316 --> 00:14:24,778
but more the working poor
who are busting their heinies
279
00:14:24,862 --> 00:14:26,988
hustling to fill in the blanks
280
00:14:27,072 --> 00:14:30,658
so that maybe they can get
a decent meal for their kids.
281
00:14:30,742 --> 00:14:33,995
Not so much to buy
a few more Norcos.
282
00:14:36,748 --> 00:14:38,416
This goes one of two ways.
283
00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,668
You start enforcing the laws
on Lyft,
284
00:14:40,752 --> 00:14:43,463
or we have justification
to break those same laws.
285
00:14:43,547 --> 00:14:47,342
And once we start,
we won't stop like Lestat
286
00:14:47,426 --> 00:14:48,676
after a taste of blood,
287
00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,179
or teenage boys with YouPorn.
288
00:14:54,141 --> 00:14:55,809
Do me a favor.
289
00:14:55,893 --> 00:15:00,230
Wait five minutes before
you call Zimmer to tell him.
290
00:15:00,314 --> 00:15:02,649
So now they know
you're after them,
291
00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:04,651
and that you have
your forces mobilizing.
292
00:15:04,735 --> 00:15:07,737
Wars are expensive,
and this one's no different.
293
00:15:07,821 --> 00:15:09,739
These driver incentives
are getting very pricey.
294
00:15:09,823 --> 00:15:12,700
- You're still with me on this?
- In theory, absolutely.
295
00:15:12,784 --> 00:15:15,245
It'd be damn nice
to take out Lyft.
296
00:15:15,329 --> 00:15:17,997
But in practice,
we may be financing something
297
00:15:18,081 --> 00:15:20,292
that only ends
in a bloody stalemate.
298
00:15:22,961 --> 00:15:26,047
We think it's time for a raise
round to fill the coffers.
299
00:15:26,131 --> 00:15:28,132
- A road show.
- Oh, no, no.
300
00:15:28,216 --> 00:15:30,552
I need to be at the conn,
not out begging for capital
301
00:15:30,636 --> 00:15:33,096
- we don't actively need.
- Show him the list.
302
00:15:37,225 --> 00:15:39,143
We raise enough money
to actually beat Lyft
303
00:15:39,227 --> 00:15:41,396
instead of pissing away money
pissing them off.
304
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,566
Kleiner, Excel,
TPG and Greylock.
305
00:15:44,650 --> 00:15:47,485
This is a little anemic,
don't you think?
306
00:15:47,569 --> 00:15:49,404
No.
307
00:15:49,488 --> 00:15:52,407
That is spinach
and prime USDA beef right there.
308
00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,037
$350 million on the table
if you close all those.
309
00:15:58,121 --> 00:16:00,290
What about Google Ventures?
310
00:16:03,752 --> 00:16:05,188
Well, they haven't raised
their hand yet.
311
00:16:05,212 --> 00:16:06,754
Well, make them
raise their hand.
312
00:16:06,838 --> 00:16:08,608
That's your special talent
right? You're Bill Gurley.
313
00:16:08,632 --> 00:16:10,758
Truth is, I don't want them to.
Not at the moment yet.
314
00:16:10,842 --> 00:16:12,468
I do.
315
00:16:12,552 --> 00:16:15,179
David Drummond and Google
Ventures rolls in?
316
00:16:15,263 --> 00:16:17,533
Come on, we're minted. That
sends a message to the valley.
317
00:16:17,557 --> 00:16:19,118
The whole business world.
That we're special.
318
00:16:19,142 --> 00:16:21,769
That we're not Lyft.
319
00:16:21,853 --> 00:16:23,771
Here's how Google rolls.
320
00:16:23,855 --> 00:16:25,667
They're going to insist
on being your lead investor
321
00:16:25,691 --> 00:16:27,275
on the first round.
322
00:16:27,359 --> 00:16:29,444
They'll limit their spend
to $100 million tops.
323
00:16:29,528 --> 00:16:31,130
That's all they'll shoot
their first hand.
324
00:16:31,154 --> 00:16:33,948
Stops everyone else
from going beyond that.
325
00:16:34,032 --> 00:16:36,868
They will bigfoot you,
they will lowball you,
326
00:16:36,952 --> 00:16:38,537
and you'll be screwed.
327
00:16:40,038 --> 00:16:41,748
You ever been to a rodeo?
328
00:16:43,375 --> 00:16:45,126
Went to a pie-eating contest
once.
329
00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:47,253
I got messy and sick, but I won.
330
00:16:47,337 --> 00:16:49,547
Yeah, well, at a rodeo,
331
00:16:49,631 --> 00:16:51,132
all the young riders,
332
00:16:51,216 --> 00:16:53,468
they always want to climb
onto the rankest bull
333
00:16:53,552 --> 00:16:55,303
to, you know, prove themselves,
334
00:16:55,387 --> 00:16:58,848
but it's best to get yourself
seasoned first,
335
00:16:58,932 --> 00:17:01,100
because bull's always
gonna be there.
336
00:17:01,184 --> 00:17:04,062
But you ride too soon,
you might not be.
337
00:17:04,146 --> 00:17:05,897
And if I finish the ride
338
00:17:05,981 --> 00:17:07,333
and I win the big shiny
belt buckle,
339
00:17:07,357 --> 00:17:08,816
then I'm a legend, right?
340
00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,485
So I'm not seeing the downside.
341
00:17:10,569 --> 00:17:12,528
Word gets around
that they turned you down.
342
00:17:12,612 --> 00:17:15,615
It will snuff a lot
of possibilities, Travis.
343
00:17:15,699 --> 00:17:17,116
TPG, others on that list.
344
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,785
It starts a trend.
345
00:17:18,869 --> 00:17:20,996
And word always gets around.
346
00:17:27,169 --> 00:17:29,462
Pretty good list, TK.
347
00:17:29,546 --> 00:17:31,173
And you know we'll kill it.
348
00:17:38,221 --> 00:17:40,348
All right, fine. Road show.
349
00:17:40,432 --> 00:17:42,475
Let's book it.
350
00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:44,478
All right then.
351
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,775
Open it.
352
00:17:50,734 --> 00:17:52,235
What is this?
353
00:17:55,113 --> 00:17:58,866
Oh, shit.
354
00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:00,493
What... what made you do this...?
355
00:18:00,577 --> 00:18:01,929
You said that
you're doing a road show,
356
00:18:01,953 --> 00:18:04,330
so you got to look, you know...
357
00:18:04,414 --> 00:18:06,165
Yeah.
358
00:18:06,249 --> 00:18:08,043
So I'm not a dun-colored mare?
359
00:18:11,296 --> 00:18:14,298
It's, uh, Salinger.
360
00:18:14,382 --> 00:18:16,884
Oh, I didn't like
Catcher in the Rye.
361
00:18:16,968 --> 00:18:19,137
It was overrated to me,
so I skipped the others.
362
00:18:19,221 --> 00:18:20,764
Worth it?
363
00:18:22,265 --> 00:18:24,100
Uh, yeah.
364
00:18:24,184 --> 00:18:26,519
I mean, I guess.
365
00:18:26,603 --> 00:18:30,231
But thank you so much
for the shoes.
366
00:18:30,315 --> 00:18:32,442
It's so sweet of you.
367
00:18:33,985 --> 00:18:35,320
You're welcome.
368
00:19:33,253 --> 00:19:34,545
Hey.
369
00:19:34,629 --> 00:19:37,215
Hey. You okay?
370
00:19:37,299 --> 00:19:40,968
Yeah, you know,
you left these Polaroids
371
00:19:41,052 --> 00:19:42,887
from the Tahoe trip?
372
00:19:42,971 --> 00:19:45,891
Yeah. You can keep them
if you want.
373
00:19:46,892 --> 00:19:48,726
Okay, well...
374
00:19:48,810 --> 00:19:51,897
also, they're here
if you want them.
375
00:19:53,732 --> 00:19:55,441
It's a pretty awesome trip.
376
00:19:55,525 --> 00:19:57,365
You called to talk
about traveling?
377
00:20:01,198 --> 00:20:02,615
We're doing a road show.
378
00:20:02,699 --> 00:20:04,992
Or I said I would do it,
379
00:20:05,076 --> 00:20:06,828
but I think I could
probably walk it back.
380
00:20:06,912 --> 00:20:08,455
Why would you?
381
00:20:10,749 --> 00:20:12,333
Zimmer's gonna find out
about it,
382
00:20:12,417 --> 00:20:14,127
and he'll know I need money
to beat him.
383
00:20:14,211 --> 00:20:15,879
It just feels weak.
384
00:20:17,756 --> 00:20:21,175
You don't like asking for money,
because it makes you feel needy.
385
00:20:21,259 --> 00:20:24,721
And you don't want to need
anything from anybody.
386
00:20:25,805 --> 00:20:29,016
But tell yourself this.
387
00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:33,312
Soon enough, you'll never have
to ask for anything ever again.
388
00:20:33,396 --> 00:20:34,689
And you know when that is.
389
00:20:34,773 --> 00:20:36,023
After this round,
390
00:20:36,107 --> 00:20:37,650
this meeting, this money close.
391
00:20:37,734 --> 00:20:39,360
Yeah, I can't wait for that.
392
00:20:39,444 --> 00:20:40,862
This is your ticket.
393
00:20:40,946 --> 00:20:42,697
And it's not a scratch-off.
394
00:20:42,781 --> 00:20:44,467
You already have the magic
numbers in your head.
395
00:20:44,491 --> 00:20:46,033
You know what to fill out.
396
00:20:46,117 --> 00:20:48,117
But you need to get
the guy to hand it to you.
397
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:51,205
Yeah, exactly.
398
00:20:51,289 --> 00:20:54,083
See? As usual.
399
00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:55,919
Exactly.
400
00:21:02,926 --> 00:21:04,177
How are you?
401
00:21:04,261 --> 00:21:06,596
New place okay?
402
00:21:07,472 --> 00:21:09,056
Yeah, it's great.
403
00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:11,350
Uh, would have loved
something a little bigger.
404
00:21:11,434 --> 00:21:13,227
Wow, subtle.
405
00:21:13,311 --> 00:21:15,062
What?
406
00:21:15,146 --> 00:21:17,148
I don't know, you're telling me
to convince people
407
00:21:17,232 --> 00:21:18,691
to put money into Uber,
408
00:21:18,775 --> 00:21:20,575
but then you want me
to take money out of Uber
409
00:21:20,652 --> 00:21:23,196
and sell some of my shares
so I can pay you.
410
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,906
Don't. Fucking don't.
411
00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:28,242
I'm just saying... look, you...
You told me to stay here.
412
00:21:28,326 --> 00:21:29,845
You said you wanted
to find a new spot.
413
00:21:29,869 --> 00:21:31,913
- You said you would buy me out.
- I will.
414
00:21:31,997 --> 00:21:35,292
Okay, so stop accusing me
of being some kind of Valkyrie.
415
00:21:40,171 --> 00:21:41,422
I should go.
416
00:21:41,506 --> 00:21:42,798
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
417
00:21:42,882 --> 00:21:44,383
You're gonna leave it like that?
418
00:21:44,467 --> 00:21:45,968
Do you want
to consider for a second
419
00:21:46,052 --> 00:21:47,762
you just got into my head
right now?
420
00:21:47,846 --> 00:21:49,448
You're like Lancaster Dodd
from the fucking Master.
421
00:21:49,472 --> 00:21:51,641
Travis, you're no Freddie Quell.
422
00:21:51,725 --> 00:21:53,476
You can handle this
without making yourself
423
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,936
a torpedo juice cocktail.
424
00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:56,980
- Okay, fine.
- Hey...
425
00:22:00,692 --> 00:22:02,777
you're going to be great
at this.
426
00:22:02,861 --> 00:22:04,570
I promise.
427
00:22:04,654 --> 00:22:06,406
You can do this.
428
00:22:09,159 --> 00:22:10,660
Thank you.
429
00:22:23,381 --> 00:22:24,715
Here you go, guys.
430
00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:26,300
Thank you.
431
00:22:26,384 --> 00:22:27,635
Thanks.
432
00:22:27,719 --> 00:22:29,554
Here.
433
00:22:38,855 --> 00:22:40,774
Kalanick, right?
434
00:22:43,526 --> 00:22:45,653
Emil Michael.
435
00:22:45,737 --> 00:22:47,321
And you guys are...?
436
00:22:47,405 --> 00:22:49,156
InfoVis.
437
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,449
Never heard of it.
438
00:22:50,533 --> 00:22:52,994
B2B.
439
00:22:53,078 --> 00:22:55,705
Crowd analytics.
440
00:22:58,375 --> 00:23:00,126
Hasn't been a great run for us.
441
00:23:00,210 --> 00:23:05,340
That's really surprising given
the confidence you're emanating.
442
00:23:10,095 --> 00:23:12,013
You probably walk in,
and they hand you a check.
443
00:23:14,933 --> 00:23:16,643
Usually.
444
00:23:18,269 --> 00:23:20,021
You didn't do your homework,
Travis.
445
00:23:20,105 --> 00:23:22,857
- All I do is homework. Come on.
- Regulators, taxicab commissions
446
00:23:22,941 --> 00:23:24,692
are gonna do all they can
to shut you down.
447
00:23:24,776 --> 00:23:26,837
There's not gonna be a problem.
You know I'm a survivor.
448
00:23:26,861 --> 00:23:28,863
At Swoosh you almost
did not survive, man.
449
00:23:28,947 --> 00:23:31,217
- That was ahead of its time.
- I looked at your projections.
450
00:23:31,241 --> 00:23:33,094
You have to spend at least five
times more marketing
451
00:23:33,118 --> 00:23:34,660
just to have anybody
know who you are.
452
00:23:34,744 --> 00:23:36,544
I'm gonna raise all that.
That's gonna be fun.
453
00:23:36,621 --> 00:23:38,205
Yeah, you know how much
fucking money
454
00:23:38,289 --> 00:23:40,169
you're going to have to raise?
You know my rule.
455
00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:42,752
We went through this in
Red Swoosh over and over again.
456
00:23:42,836 --> 00:23:45,106
I am not going to invest in a
company where you have to raise
457
00:23:45,130 --> 00:23:46,714
hundreds of millions of dollars
458
00:23:46,798 --> 00:23:48,442
to do tens of millions
of dollars in revenues.
459
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:50,444
Bro, we are going to be making
billions of dollars.
460
00:23:50,468 --> 00:23:52,595
This idea is much bigger
than Red Swoosh.
461
00:23:52,679 --> 00:23:55,181
- You know that.
- Billions in revenues, maybe.
462
00:23:55,265 --> 00:23:57,391
But you're going to have
to spend billions of dollars
463
00:23:57,475 --> 00:23:59,393
to get there,
and I'll get diluted to nothing.
464
00:23:59,477 --> 00:24:01,562
I don't... what's the point
of making an investment
465
00:24:01,646 --> 00:24:04,190
in a company where I put in
a lot of money,
466
00:24:04,274 --> 00:24:05,649
and I end up with zip?
467
00:24:05,733 --> 00:24:07,777
If you pass on this right now,
468
00:24:07,861 --> 00:24:09,695
I'm never coming back to you.
469
00:24:09,779 --> 00:24:12,615
Guess what, Travis. I just did.
470
00:24:19,956 --> 00:24:21,499
Hello, InfoVis.
471
00:24:21,583 --> 00:24:24,210
We are ready to go.
Please follow me.
472
00:24:32,343 --> 00:24:34,345
I told you we came too early.
473
00:24:34,429 --> 00:24:36,180
Yeah, I don't want to rush
and get sweaty.
474
00:24:36,264 --> 00:24:37,741
Some of these places
got leather seats,
475
00:24:37,765 --> 00:24:40,977
and the leather and the sweat...
not a fun combo.
476
00:24:47,317 --> 00:24:49,319
Oh, shit! Sorry.
477
00:24:51,863 --> 00:24:53,239
Travis?
478
00:24:53,323 --> 00:24:55,033
- Zimmer.
- Yeah.
479
00:24:58,036 --> 00:24:59,662
Uh, I know.
480
00:24:59,746 --> 00:25:01,372
But we loved
your campaign that much.
481
00:25:01,456 --> 00:25:03,958
Figure we can't ignore
we're in a dogfight,
482
00:25:04,042 --> 00:25:05,459
might as well lean in.
483
00:25:05,543 --> 00:25:06,770
And the VCs
seem to get it so far.
484
00:25:06,794 --> 00:25:08,045
Yeah, my, uh...
485
00:25:08,129 --> 00:25:09,588
My shirt's our closer.
486
00:25:09,672 --> 00:25:11,507
Though I guess technically,
it's your shirt.
487
00:25:11,591 --> 00:25:13,634
So thank you.
488
00:25:13,718 --> 00:25:15,678
Hey, good luck in there.
489
00:25:19,557 --> 00:25:21,351
He's taller than I thought.
490
00:25:30,401 --> 00:25:35,240
I just need to get in your Wi-Fi
and I'll be set.
491
00:25:39,744 --> 00:25:44,123
Travis, Emil, the team and I
are excited you came in.
492
00:25:47,001 --> 00:25:50,713
Yeah, no, I don't think so.
493
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,383
You guys just had
a company in here
494
00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:56,844
I don't even want to be
in the same room with.
495
00:25:56,928 --> 00:25:58,554
I mean, I get it, right?
496
00:25:58,638 --> 00:26:00,848
Companies have to donate
to Republicans and to Democrats
497
00:26:00,932 --> 00:26:03,851
so you're greased in
with whoever wins, but you...
498
00:26:03,935 --> 00:26:05,811
you're VCs.
499
00:26:05,895 --> 00:26:08,165
You're supposed to believe in
the company you put money into,
500
00:26:08,189 --> 00:26:09,833
not just protect yourself
in the possibility
501
00:26:09,857 --> 00:26:11,192
you made the wrong call.
502
00:26:13,778 --> 00:26:18,783
So your pitch is we go with you
or Lyft, but not both?
503
00:26:23,288 --> 00:26:25,790
I'm gonna make it easy for you.
We're done here.
504
00:26:27,917 --> 00:26:29,335
Thanks for the water.
505
00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:36,383
Cancel the meetings.
506
00:26:36,467 --> 00:26:38,469
- Which?
- All of them.
507
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:42,181
That's fucking genius.
508
00:26:43,975 --> 00:26:45,935
That's fucking insane.
You canceled the road show?
509
00:26:45,977 --> 00:26:48,289
- You don't want to do the raise?
- No, no, no. We're doing it.
510
00:26:48,313 --> 00:26:50,397
Bill, look, it's like,
you ever been to a club?
511
00:26:50,481 --> 00:26:52,900
You know, the velvet rope that
makes everyone want to get in?
512
00:26:52,984 --> 00:26:56,237
So I am a club called Unicorn,
and if investors want in,
513
00:26:56,321 --> 00:26:57,821
they got to get in line.
514
00:26:57,905 --> 00:26:59,740
Maybe that stunt
515
00:26:59,824 --> 00:27:01,534
that you pulled
at the VC firm works.
516
00:27:01,618 --> 00:27:03,619
Maybe they want in so bad
they make an offer.
517
00:27:03,703 --> 00:27:05,788
They block out Lyft.
518
00:27:05,872 --> 00:27:08,165
Even so, we still have
to raise the rest.
519
00:27:08,249 --> 00:27:10,167
We're gonna raise the rest,
dude.
520
00:27:10,251 --> 00:27:11,585
We're just gonna do it here.
521
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:13,087
We're flipping the paradigm.
522
00:27:13,171 --> 00:27:14,922
It's not a road show.
523
00:27:16,924 --> 00:27:19,093
Home show. Home show!
524
00:27:19,177 --> 00:27:21,554
Home show! Come on!
525
00:27:21,638 --> 00:27:24,557
Right?
You're with the insurgents now.
526
00:27:24,641 --> 00:27:25,909
This shouldn't be
fucking with your head.
527
00:27:25,933 --> 00:27:27,768
No, I'm just trying
to figure out
528
00:27:27,852 --> 00:27:30,479
how it is that starving
your own company
529
00:27:30,563 --> 00:27:33,941
is insurgency
and not just a temper tantrum.
530
00:27:34,025 --> 00:27:35,943
- Worked for Gandhi.
- Yeah, well,
531
00:27:36,027 --> 00:27:37,403
when Gandhi made that choice,
532
00:27:37,487 --> 00:27:39,280
he was the one
doing the starving.
533
00:27:39,403 --> 00:27:41,697
Not his investors.
534
00:29:16,294 --> 00:29:18,212
I've tried every fucking thing.
535
00:29:18,296 --> 00:29:21,423
I can't get this class C
bullshit shut down.
536
00:29:21,507 --> 00:29:23,342
Yeah, and Zimmer knows it,
and he's using it.
537
00:29:23,426 --> 00:29:25,219
Every meeting now
someone's asking me,
538
00:29:25,303 --> 00:29:26,863
what does Uber have to do
to get bigger?
539
00:29:26,888 --> 00:29:28,263
Do you have an answer?
540
00:29:28,347 --> 00:29:30,057
It occurs to me
I think we got polite.
541
00:29:30,141 --> 00:29:31,910
We're just using registered
livery drivers, why?
542
00:29:31,934 --> 00:29:33,268
Because it's a fucking rule?
543
00:29:33,352 --> 00:29:35,020
I mean while Lyft
is undercutting us
544
00:29:35,104 --> 00:29:36,605
like they're Costco of livery.
545
00:29:36,689 --> 00:29:38,190
We're disruptors.
546
00:29:38,274 --> 00:29:41,068
We can't be afraid
to disrupt even ourselves.
547
00:29:43,613 --> 00:29:44,780
We open up the business.
548
00:29:44,864 --> 00:29:46,490
Let in civilians,
549
00:29:46,574 --> 00:29:48,867
anybody with a driver's license
can come join the team.
550
00:29:48,951 --> 00:29:51,245
We will crush Lyft
at their own game.
551
00:29:51,329 --> 00:29:54,581
Luxury in an app.
That was the vision always.
552
00:29:54,665 --> 00:29:56,083
And it's a great vision.
553
00:29:56,167 --> 00:29:58,544
Uber is a black car company.
554
00:29:58,628 --> 00:30:01,255
No one wants to ride around
in someone's used Camry.
555
00:30:01,339 --> 00:30:03,883
Are you so sure about that?
556
00:30:06,844 --> 00:30:10,222
This is the last time
this ever happens.
557
00:30:10,306 --> 00:30:13,767
Police walked in
For Jimmy Jazz
558
00:30:13,851 --> 00:30:17,855
I said "He ain't here
But he sure went by".
559
00:30:17,939 --> 00:30:20,566
Oh, you're looking for.
560
00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:22,985
Jimmy Jazz.
561
00:30:24,237 --> 00:30:25,904
Yeah, they said.
562
00:30:25,988 --> 00:30:29,950
Satta Massagana
For Jimmy Dread.
563
00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:32,995
Cut off his ears
And chop off his head.
564
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,664
Police come look for.
565
00:30:35,748 --> 00:30:37,458
Jimmy Jazz.
566
00:30:37,542 --> 00:30:40,002
Jazz, Jazz, Jazz.
567
00:30:40,086 --> 00:30:41,546
So go look.
568
00:30:45,842 --> 00:30:48,260
Wow! Thanks so much, guys.
569
00:30:48,344 --> 00:30:50,137
Have a fantastic night.
570
00:30:52,056 --> 00:30:53,348
Chatty fella.
571
00:30:53,432 --> 00:30:55,058
That's the Lyft UX in action.
572
00:30:55,142 --> 00:30:56,870
You know, you sit up front,
you make a friend.
573
00:30:56,894 --> 00:30:58,353
Yeah, I'm not that lonely yet.
574
00:30:58,437 --> 00:30:59,957
I'm not saying
that it couldn't happen,
575
00:30:59,981 --> 00:31:02,065
but there's nothing cool
about that experience.
576
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:03,650
Maybe that's not the point.
577
00:31:03,734 --> 00:31:05,903
Are we selling cool,
or selling transportation?
578
00:31:07,572 --> 00:31:09,156
We're selling cool transpo.
579
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,908
Elegant. James fucking Bond.
580
00:31:10,992 --> 00:31:12,993
That's the brand.
Always has been.
581
00:31:13,077 --> 00:31:15,579
TK, it's your call.
582
00:31:15,663 --> 00:31:17,874
I mean, it's your call.
583
00:31:21,002 --> 00:31:23,295
Both.
584
00:31:23,379 --> 00:31:25,088
You go into a department store,
585
00:31:25,172 --> 00:31:27,150
they have that shitty jewelry
on the counter, right?
586
00:31:27,174 --> 00:31:29,009
But the good stuff
is in the glass boxes.
587
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:30,969
- Two levels of service.
- Exactly, all right.
588
00:31:31,053 --> 00:31:33,347
So you want luxury, you want
cool, you can pay for cool.
589
00:31:33,431 --> 00:31:35,031
But we slide another option
into the app.
590
00:31:35,099 --> 00:31:37,643
Charge 35% less
and call it UberX,
591
00:31:37,727 --> 00:31:39,020
so it still feels cool.
592
00:31:40,605 --> 00:31:42,648
It's always X with you.
593
00:31:42,732 --> 00:31:44,358
Yeah, the X is for "extra sexy."
594
00:31:46,277 --> 00:31:47,695
You would laugh at that.
595
00:31:53,117 --> 00:31:56,954
Dude, you brought me in to grind
on these kinds of calls.
596
00:31:58,289 --> 00:32:00,291
Yeah. That's true.
597
00:32:05,046 --> 00:32:06,606
But I'm still gonna
give you my opinion,
598
00:32:06,631 --> 00:32:08,591
and I expect you
to take it seriously.
599
00:32:11,469 --> 00:32:13,053
And then I'll ride with you
on it.
600
00:32:13,137 --> 00:32:14,888
No matter what you decide.
601
00:32:14,972 --> 00:32:16,849
It's your company, man.
602
00:32:22,897 --> 00:32:24,440
For Garrett?
603
00:32:35,159 --> 00:32:37,870
You know,
I'm hearing Google Ventures
604
00:32:37,954 --> 00:32:39,705
is in the mix this round.
605
00:32:41,874 --> 00:32:43,209
That's weird.
606
00:32:46,045 --> 00:32:49,423
I can't control the rumor mill,
Bill, can I?
607
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,139
That's me.
608
00:33:18,035 --> 00:33:21,538
Once we added the UberX
functionality, boom,
609
00:33:21,622 --> 00:33:24,124
that is driver supply,
that is rider demand.
610
00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:25,608
What part of
"do not disturb" do...?
611
00:33:44,228 --> 00:33:46,813
David motherfucking Drummond.
612
00:33:46,897 --> 00:33:48,982
In theory, a top Google lawyer.
613
00:33:49,066 --> 00:33:51,985
In practice, Larry and Sergey's
business brain.
614
00:33:52,069 --> 00:33:54,154
Head of their investment arm,
Google Ventures.
615
00:33:54,238 --> 00:33:57,658
Loved and feared in every
boardroom in Silicon Valley.
616
00:33:57,742 --> 00:33:59,660
A real OG.
617
00:33:59,744 --> 00:34:02,079
And a BFD.
618
00:34:02,163 --> 00:34:04,790
And the one-man TK
set this entire trap for.
619
00:34:04,874 --> 00:34:08,710
Hi. Travis Kalanick.
620
00:34:08,794 --> 00:34:10,671
No shit. I'm in your office.
621
00:34:12,882 --> 00:34:14,425
Sit down.
622
00:34:16,177 --> 00:34:17,803
I don't imagine
you made the drive
623
00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:19,805
all the way from Mountain View
to hear me talk,
624
00:34:19,889 --> 00:34:21,306
so why don't you start?
625
00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:22,975
I'm wondering
who you think you are
626
00:34:23,059 --> 00:34:25,419
telling everyone in my valley
we're in your round.
627
00:34:27,438 --> 00:34:28,605
Aren't you?
628
00:34:28,689 --> 00:34:31,984
Because again,
long drive, David.
629
00:34:32,068 --> 00:34:33,777
Or is it Mr. Drummond?
630
00:34:33,861 --> 00:34:37,614
I'm more of a TK to my friends,
Travis to my enemies,
631
00:34:37,698 --> 00:34:42,119
and a fucking lottery ticket to
anybody who knows what's what.
632
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,670
Breakfast, Tuesday, 9:00 a.m.,
Charlie's Café on the campus.
633
00:34:51,754 --> 00:34:54,090
This is a home show,
not a road show.
634
00:34:57,426 --> 00:34:59,720
You know what?
I can make an exception.
635
00:34:59,804 --> 00:35:01,263
That's cool.
636
00:35:03,974 --> 00:35:05,267
But...
637
00:35:07,436 --> 00:35:09,438
I want Larry Page there.
638
00:35:12,108 --> 00:35:13,776
That's a tough get.
639
00:35:15,111 --> 00:35:16,779
I'll see what I can do.
640
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,043
Um, hi.
641
00:35:31,127 --> 00:35:34,254
David fucking Drummond
came into the office today,
642
00:35:34,338 --> 00:35:36,590
and we are going
to the Googleplex on Tuesday.
643
00:35:36,674 --> 00:35:38,091
And Larry Page
is gonna be there!
644
00:35:38,175 --> 00:35:39,384
I feel fucking amazing!
645
00:35:39,468 --> 00:35:40,845
I can see that.
646
00:35:43,973 --> 00:35:47,517
You are my good-luck charm.
647
00:35:47,601 --> 00:35:50,146
Okay. Well, I like that.
648
00:36:28,684 --> 00:36:30,227
Is he coming?
649
00:36:38,027 --> 00:36:39,778
Larry Page, Travis Kalanick,
650
00:36:39,862 --> 00:36:40,987
and Emil Michael.
651
00:36:41,071 --> 00:36:42,907
It's so great to meet you, man.
652
00:37:03,135 --> 00:37:05,762
So, look, I'll admit
when I started Uber,
653
00:37:05,846 --> 00:37:07,764
it was just a way
for me and my buddies
654
00:37:07,848 --> 00:37:10,183
to get around San Francisco
in limos like ballers.
655
00:37:10,267 --> 00:37:12,435
You know, we didn't have
a grand plan.
656
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,020
For a minute.
657
00:37:14,104 --> 00:37:15,749
But then I was forced
to learn to improvise
658
00:37:15,773 --> 00:37:17,941
once it turned out
everybody wanted in.
659
00:37:18,025 --> 00:37:20,170
Has that ever happened to you?
You know, you have an idea
660
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:21,904
and then it spins
into something else?
661
00:37:26,617 --> 00:37:28,285
Maybe not.
662
00:37:28,369 --> 00:37:30,370
Maybe you just see it all
in front of you
663
00:37:30,454 --> 00:37:31,705
perfectly mapped out,
664
00:37:31,789 --> 00:37:33,373
exactly the way
it'll come to pass.
665
00:37:33,457 --> 00:37:35,625
I don't know, me? I have to stay
open to opportunity
666
00:37:35,709 --> 00:37:37,377
and nimble enough to change,
667
00:37:37,461 --> 00:37:39,838
because here's the thing:
We are not a limo company.
668
00:37:39,922 --> 00:37:41,715
We're a technology company.
669
00:37:41,799 --> 00:37:43,235
But if I had known that
at the start,
670
00:37:43,259 --> 00:37:44,843
I might have never started.
671
00:37:44,927 --> 00:37:46,863
You know, my mom, she says,
"Look before you leap."
672
00:37:46,887 --> 00:37:49,639
But I'm always like, how am I
going to get a good enough view
673
00:37:49,723 --> 00:37:51,057
and decide what's next
674
00:37:51,141 --> 00:37:53,310
if I'm not already up
in the air, you know?
675
00:37:53,394 --> 00:37:54,978
Because I took the leap, right?
676
00:37:55,062 --> 00:37:56,790
Like you guys with Google Maps,
that is a leap.
677
00:37:56,814 --> 00:37:59,275
But you're up in the air,
and you can look, and boom.
678
00:38:00,818 --> 00:38:03,404
Autonomous vehicles, right?
679
00:38:07,992 --> 00:38:10,744
Yeah, you know,
self-driving cars
680
00:38:10,828 --> 00:38:13,330
are very much front of mind.
681
00:38:13,414 --> 00:38:15,749
Still early stages, but...
682
00:38:16,709 --> 00:38:18,961
Yeah.
683
00:38:29,305 --> 00:38:33,350
Ooh, you make me live.
684
00:38:33,434 --> 00:38:36,978
Whatever this world
Can give to me.
685
00:38:37,062 --> 00:38:38,688
It's you.
686
00:38:38,772 --> 00:38:41,399
You're all I see.
687
00:38:41,483 --> 00:38:45,862
Ooh, you make me live now
Honey.
688
00:38:45,946 --> 00:38:48,866
Ooh, you make me live.
689
00:38:50,617 --> 00:38:53,703
Oh, you're the best friend.
690
00:38:53,787 --> 00:38:56,081
That I ever had
691
00:38:56,165 --> 00:39:00,878
I've been with you
Such a long time...
692
00:39:08,594 --> 00:39:11,179
Look, it'd be easy
for Google Ventures
693
00:39:11,263 --> 00:39:13,139
to just plug some money
into Uber
694
00:39:13,223 --> 00:39:16,059
and walk away and siphon off
some of our success.
695
00:39:16,143 --> 00:39:17,787
But I don't think
that's what you want to do.
696
00:39:17,811 --> 00:39:19,497
I think you want us
to grow together, right?
697
00:39:19,521 --> 00:39:21,147
Like, imagine we could
share data
698
00:39:21,231 --> 00:39:22,565
from all the millions of trips
699
00:39:22,649 --> 00:39:23,775
that Uber runs every day.
700
00:39:23,859 --> 00:39:25,777
Plug that into Google Maps
701
00:39:25,861 --> 00:39:27,422
or anything else
that we want to team up on.
702
00:39:27,446 --> 00:39:29,531
Flying cars.
703
00:39:31,658 --> 00:39:34,035
The numbers.
704
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:35,328
You aware?
705
00:39:35,412 --> 00:39:37,455
Flying cars?
706
00:39:37,539 --> 00:39:42,127
Move 14% of vehicles currently
on the road to air lanes,
707
00:39:42,211 --> 00:39:45,047
traffic congestion
goes down 82%.
708
00:39:46,173 --> 00:39:47,590
Wow.
709
00:39:47,674 --> 00:39:48,884
That...
710
00:39:53,514 --> 00:39:55,057
Your idea?
711
00:39:55,724 --> 00:39:57,267
Uber?
712
00:39:57,351 --> 00:39:59,185
Oh, yeah.
713
00:39:59,269 --> 00:40:00,687
Yeah, it was.
714
00:40:00,771 --> 00:40:02,522
My partner, Garrett,
he ideated the concept,
715
00:40:02,606 --> 00:40:05,651
but I refined it
and really built it.
716
00:40:08,737 --> 00:40:10,280
Interesting.
717
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:15,869
How does route planning work?
718
00:40:15,953 --> 00:40:18,455
That's not easy.
719
00:40:18,539 --> 00:40:23,043
That's... is that OSRM,
or are you using our APIs?
720
00:40:23,127 --> 00:40:26,046
It's open-source.
721
00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:28,090
Open-source what?
722
00:40:30,175 --> 00:40:32,552
OpenStreetMap, I'm pretty sure.
723
00:40:32,636 --> 00:40:35,097
It's... it's really advanced.
We have the best guys on it.
724
00:40:37,433 --> 00:40:38,600
If you say so.
725
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:46,483
You don't actually write code,
do you, Tyler?
726
00:40:47,317 --> 00:40:48,526
Travis.
727
00:40:48,610 --> 00:40:49,987
Kalanick.
728
00:40:55,742 --> 00:40:57,286
Okay.
729
00:40:58,495 --> 00:41:00,580
Good.
730
00:41:00,664 --> 00:41:03,459
Yeah, we should, you know...
731
00:41:06,587 --> 00:41:07,963
You know...
732
00:41:20,642 --> 00:41:22,019
Let's do this.
733
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,564
If we come on,
I'll get a board seat.
734
00:41:26,648 --> 00:41:27,959
- An observer's seat.
- A voting seat.
735
00:41:27,983 --> 00:41:29,317
That's a deal-breaker.
736
00:41:29,401 --> 00:41:31,069
The only way I'm giving up
737
00:41:31,153 --> 00:41:32,839
a voting seat is if there's
a spend commensurate
738
00:41:32,863 --> 00:41:34,674
- with the people at this table.
- It's my table.
739
00:41:34,698 --> 00:41:36,968
If Uber weren't the hottest
entrant in transportation space,
740
00:41:36,992 --> 00:41:39,327
I wouldn't be sitting here,
and neither would you.
741
00:41:39,411 --> 00:41:40,871
Look...
742
00:41:42,915 --> 00:41:44,999
Amazon is a warehouse company.
743
00:41:45,083 --> 00:41:47,293
We are the everything company.
744
00:41:47,377 --> 00:41:48,670
You revolutionize
transportation,
745
00:41:48,754 --> 00:41:50,171
you revolutionize
urban development,
746
00:41:50,255 --> 00:41:52,132
real estate, the energy sector,
747
00:41:52,216 --> 00:41:53,925
food and hospitality,
trading and shipping.
748
00:41:54,009 --> 00:41:56,594
I mean, this is a lot more
than just how people shop.
749
00:41:56,678 --> 00:41:58,972
This is how they live,
and it's all frictionless,
750
00:41:59,056 --> 00:42:00,682
because that's who we are.
751
00:42:00,766 --> 00:42:02,809
Our brand changes the world,
just like your does.
752
00:42:02,893 --> 00:42:04,102
You got an ask?
753
00:42:07,397 --> 00:42:10,483
Quarter-bil.
754
00:42:10,567 --> 00:42:12,819
The most Google's ever invested
is a hundred million.
755
00:42:12,903 --> 00:42:14,714
I'm willing to talk something
in that ballpark...
756
00:42:14,738 --> 00:42:17,615
Talk about
a quarter-billion dollars.
757
00:42:17,699 --> 00:42:19,576
That's the ask.
758
00:42:23,747 --> 00:42:25,999
- Can you believe that?
- That was fucking insane.
759
00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:28,251
Dude, the vibe between
me and Larry was tight.
760
00:42:32,256 --> 00:42:33,756
I'm calling Bill.
761
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,884
Hmm? No, no, no.
Don't... don't do that.
762
00:42:35,968 --> 00:42:38,344
Okay, maybe I don't?
763
00:42:38,428 --> 00:42:40,448
I'm running this play without
protection in the pocket.
764
00:42:40,472 --> 00:42:42,348
Fuck.
765
00:42:42,432 --> 00:42:44,392
You went in there
without even telling Bill
766
00:42:44,476 --> 00:42:47,062
and without telling me what
the actual ask was gonna be?
767
00:42:48,313 --> 00:42:49,690
Are you actually in the pocket?
768
00:42:51,441 --> 00:42:53,026
I'm fine.
769
00:42:53,110 --> 00:42:54,486
He's gonna find out.
770
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:56,196
He's not my dad.
771
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,490
And if we nail a quarter-bil,
then he can apologize.
772
00:42:58,575 --> 00:43:02,537
If we don't, then he can gloat.
773
00:43:10,752 --> 00:43:12,962
You don't actually
have the Google cash.
774
00:43:13,046 --> 00:43:14,547
We might never have it.
775
00:43:14,631 --> 00:43:16,799
You might have completely
blown it with that ask.
776
00:43:16,883 --> 00:43:18,969
I cannot believe
you're not with me on this one.
777
00:43:26,059 --> 00:43:27,870
Dude, the money is coming in
one way or another.
778
00:43:27,894 --> 00:43:29,229
Look at our growth rate.
779
00:43:29,313 --> 00:43:31,189
- Look at our burn rate.
- That's true.
780
00:43:31,273 --> 00:43:33,293
- The incentives are killing us.
- But that's why we buy Lyft,
781
00:43:33,317 --> 00:43:36,194
so we can stop paying these
fucking incentives to the
782
00:43:36,278 --> 00:43:38,988
drivers, because where else
are they gonna go?
783
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:45,870
Maybe we should
run this by Bill...
784
00:43:45,954 --> 00:43:48,915
No, we're not. Don't say "Bill."
We're not running by anything.
785
00:43:48,999 --> 00:43:50,583
No run-bys.
We endgame Lyft, okay?
786
00:43:50,667 --> 00:43:52,186
We get the Google money,
and we end them.
787
00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:53,920
That's it.
788
00:43:54,004 --> 00:43:56,285
Unless you want them nipping
at our heels forever.
789
00:43:59,176 --> 00:44:00,969
Should I have called?
790
00:44:01,970 --> 00:44:03,347
Give me the room.
791
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:14,816
I love saying that.
792
00:44:17,110 --> 00:44:18,195
David Drummond called.
793
00:44:20,530 --> 00:44:21,864
Called you?
794
00:44:21,948 --> 00:44:23,783
I'm the guy they call.
795
00:44:23,867 --> 00:44:25,618
That's how this works.
796
00:44:25,702 --> 00:44:27,412
When you fuck up, they call me.
797
00:44:27,496 --> 00:44:29,956
When you try to go deep
with Larry Page, they call me.
798
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
When you land over
a quarter of a billion dollars
799
00:44:32,042 --> 00:44:34,544
of Google's money, they call me.
800
00:44:36,213 --> 00:44:37,630
Fuck you.
801
00:44:37,714 --> 00:44:39,716
No, thanks. I'm good.
802
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,385
My founder just raised
some serious cash.
803
00:44:45,388 --> 00:44:47,055
- You feeling it?
- Holy shit!
804
00:44:47,140 --> 00:44:48,975
Yes. Holy shit.
805
00:44:49,059 --> 00:44:50,977
I know how to win now.
I know how.
806
00:44:51,061 --> 00:44:53,104
I already set up
the dinner with Zimmer.
807
00:44:53,188 --> 00:44:54,314
Now you can do it.
808
00:44:54,398 --> 00:44:56,107
Okay, then.
809
00:44:56,191 --> 00:44:58,359
We're gonna go in there,
we're gonna scoop up Lyft.
810
00:44:58,443 --> 00:45:01,696
Zimmer is gonna...
He's gonna act weird at first.
811
00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:03,531
He's bleeding.
His board's after him.
812
00:45:03,615 --> 00:45:05,950
He knows he's dying,
and he doesn't want to die.
813
00:45:06,034 --> 00:45:07,785
So you're gonna let him know
814
00:45:07,869 --> 00:45:11,081
that you're not going to go to
the press and call him a loser.
815
00:45:13,083 --> 00:45:15,283
And you're gonna treat
his employees with respect...
816
00:45:16,586 --> 00:45:18,422
and a seat on the board.
817
00:45:24,177 --> 00:45:26,512
- Okay, I can do that.
- Oh, I know you can,
818
00:45:26,596 --> 00:45:28,514
because a guy marries a woman
with kids,
819
00:45:28,598 --> 00:45:32,310
he has to prove he's not gonna
fuck up her life or theirs.
820
00:45:32,394 --> 00:45:33,811
You get it?
821
00:45:33,895 --> 00:45:36,106
I got it.
822
00:45:40,026 --> 00:45:42,445
Did you say
over a quarter-billion?
823
00:45:42,529 --> 00:45:44,030
Two-fifty-seven.
824
00:45:48,618 --> 00:45:50,596
I guess it's okay if they
bigfoot us now, right, Bill?
825
00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:52,420
It's very fucking okay.
They bought the right.
826
00:45:57,335 --> 00:45:59,212
The legend's always been
827
00:45:59,296 --> 00:46:02,507
the restaurants in Little India
all share the same kitchen.
828
00:46:02,591 --> 00:46:05,093
So you walk down Sixth Street
in New York City,
829
00:46:05,177 --> 00:46:08,096
and every storefront
has a different name.
830
00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:10,116
They have a different collection
of Christmas lights
831
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:12,141
and different aging menus
taped to the windows,
832
00:46:12,225 --> 00:46:14,352
but it's all a mirage.
833
00:46:14,436 --> 00:46:16,796
You mean like an actual mirage,
or people just can't believe
834
00:46:16,855 --> 00:46:18,499
that all these different
Indian restaurants
835
00:46:18,523 --> 00:46:19,941
share the same kitchen?
836
00:46:20,025 --> 00:46:21,150
Never did find out.
837
00:46:21,234 --> 00:46:22,777
The vindaloo,
838
00:46:22,861 --> 00:46:24,862
it doesn't taste the same
at all those places.
839
00:46:24,946 --> 00:46:26,406
I just... I call bullshit.
840
00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:28,199
Yeah, me too. Probably, right?
841
00:46:28,283 --> 00:46:30,159
But maybe
that's the magic of it.
842
00:46:30,243 --> 00:46:32,370
Create the sense of choice
843
00:46:32,454 --> 00:46:34,747
that the customer is engaging
in a decision.
844
00:46:34,831 --> 00:46:37,750
But actually all the money's
flowing back to the same place.
845
00:46:37,834 --> 00:46:42,255
And in this case, that'd be us.
846
00:46:42,339 --> 00:46:43,799
Something like that.
847
00:46:53,141 --> 00:46:56,894
We think you retaining 17%
of the company is a fair deal.
848
00:46:56,978 --> 00:46:58,855
We wanted 25.
849
00:46:58,939 --> 00:47:00,982
We know, Kate.
850
00:47:04,694 --> 00:47:07,113
I can sit with 17.
851
00:47:07,197 --> 00:47:08,823
Board seat as discussed.
852
00:47:08,907 --> 00:47:11,117
Lyft retains its app and staff,
853
00:47:11,201 --> 00:47:13,745
and we can discuss
lightening our C-suite.
854
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:16,832
We have a few top performers
we'd like to protect.
855
00:47:31,930 --> 00:47:33,348
Eight percent.
856
00:47:39,062 --> 00:47:40,313
You know what I wanted to say?
857
00:47:40,397 --> 00:47:42,064
Here's my final offer: nothing.
858
00:47:42,148 --> 00:47:43,983
Like the Lake Tahoe scene.
859
00:47:44,067 --> 00:47:46,212
I just didn't want you guys
to think I was screwing around.
860
00:47:46,236 --> 00:47:47,820
- Travis.
- So you're serious?
861
00:47:47,904 --> 00:47:49,906
I mean, I also sprung
for the Sam Wo's.
862
00:47:53,577 --> 00:47:55,388
You know, Travis,
sometimes when you put your dick
863
00:47:55,412 --> 00:47:57,079
out on a table,
864
00:47:57,163 --> 00:47:59,499
it doesn't necessarily mean
you have a big one.
865
00:47:59,583 --> 00:48:01,459
It might just mean
you exposed yourself.
866
00:48:01,543 --> 00:48:04,545
You have no fucking idea
how many people assume
867
00:48:04,629 --> 00:48:06,047
that everything
I've accomplished
868
00:48:06,131 --> 00:48:08,842
is somehow to compensate
for everything I'm not.
869
00:48:10,051 --> 00:48:12,595
But you have to know
870
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:15,390
the whole worth of your company
is predicated on my success.
871
00:48:16,308 --> 00:48:17,475
You're a tapeworm.
872
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:19,227
I'm the host. You need me.
873
00:48:19,311 --> 00:48:21,646
What, to be on that wall?
I need you on that wall?
874
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:25,024
You need me to survive.
875
00:48:25,108 --> 00:48:26,776
I understand you feel that way.
876
00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:28,796
This isn't about feelings, man.
This is about facts.
877
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:31,322
You're shedding six and a half
percent a day
878
00:48:31,406 --> 00:48:33,991
of potential revenue
to us post-UberX.
879
00:48:34,075 --> 00:48:35,303
We're gonna roll out
dynamic pricing.
880
00:48:35,327 --> 00:48:36,160
That number's going to double.
881
00:48:36,244 --> 00:48:37,745
You're going to lose all your
drivers.
882
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:39,724
More than that, you're going to
lose your customers.
883
00:48:39,748 --> 00:48:41,017
Because they like
your little interface.
884
00:48:41,041 --> 00:48:42,310
But you know
what they like more?
885
00:48:42,334 --> 00:48:43,709
A car that shows up fast,
886
00:48:43,793 --> 00:48:45,633
and you won't be able
to provide it.
887
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:52,885
He's not putting it
very diplomatically.
888
00:48:52,969 --> 00:48:57,599
His terms are not the ones
I recommended.
889
00:49:02,479 --> 00:49:04,105
But it is true.
890
00:49:10,362 --> 00:49:11,988
Something funny?
891
00:49:12,072 --> 00:49:13,823
You could have walked
out of here tonight
892
00:49:13,907 --> 00:49:16,284
owning the entire
rideshare space.
893
00:49:16,368 --> 00:49:18,411
Like Coke and Pepsi got hitched.
894
00:49:18,495 --> 00:49:19,912
But you're not smart enough.
895
00:49:19,996 --> 00:49:21,747
No, no, that's not it.
896
00:49:21,831 --> 00:49:25,543
You're not sophisticated enough.
You're not cultured enough.
897
00:49:25,627 --> 00:49:28,129
Fuck, you're not human enough.
898
00:49:29,547 --> 00:49:32,008
Sure, you have some savvy.
899
00:49:32,092 --> 00:49:34,051
And, yes, you are good
with numbers.
900
00:49:34,135 --> 00:49:37,013
But you're too much
of a goddamn predatory animal
901
00:49:37,097 --> 00:49:39,056
to take a sure thing
when it comes to you.
902
00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:40,600
I don't know why.
903
00:49:40,684 --> 00:49:42,519
I... I don't actually care.
904
00:49:49,859 --> 00:49:51,736
Here's what's gonna happen.
905
00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:53,446
I'm not ever leaving
the rideshare space.
906
00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:54,906
Not now.
907
00:49:54,990 --> 00:49:56,258
I mean, I was ready
to pull back.
908
00:49:56,282 --> 00:49:58,284
But after this, uh-uh.
909
00:49:58,368 --> 00:50:00,286
I will grow, and I will suck
910
00:50:00,370 --> 00:50:03,247
the ever-loving fucking life
out of your company.
911
00:50:03,331 --> 00:50:04,707
And I will outlast you.
912
00:50:04,791 --> 00:50:06,102
And when I do,
when I go public first,
913
00:50:06,126 --> 00:50:08,127
I just want you to remember,
914
00:50:08,211 --> 00:50:11,088
you brought this shit-ton
of bricks down on your own head.
915
00:50:11,172 --> 00:50:13,425
Bill, thanks much.
916
00:50:24,853 --> 00:50:27,313
Well, that was fucking
ridiculous.
917
00:50:56,634 --> 00:50:57,927
I had to take a walk.
918
00:50:58,011 --> 00:50:59,929
I'm sorry you wasted
your evening.
919
00:51:00,013 --> 00:51:01,681
It's fine.
920
00:51:02,932 --> 00:51:04,392
I know it's not.
921
00:51:07,896 --> 00:51:09,689
What are you doing, Bill?
922
00:51:09,773 --> 00:51:12,483
Riding shotgun
with a guy like that?
923
00:51:12,567 --> 00:51:14,652
I saw your face. You had no idea
924
00:51:14,736 --> 00:51:16,529
he was gonna self-immolate
in there tonight.
925
00:51:16,613 --> 00:51:19,532
I'm sorry we couldn't
throw you a lifeline,
926
00:51:19,616 --> 00:51:21,493
but his point's not wrong.
927
00:51:22,869 --> 00:51:24,370
Probably all healthier
if we compete.
928
00:51:24,454 --> 00:51:26,372
Sure.
929
00:51:26,456 --> 00:51:28,457
You got to defend your founder.
930
00:51:28,541 --> 00:51:30,376
Gurley stands behind his man.
931
00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:34,714
But every time
Travis gets a win...
932
00:51:36,633 --> 00:51:38,551
you're making him believe
933
00:51:38,635 --> 00:51:40,886
the world owes him that win.
934
00:51:40,970 --> 00:51:43,764
First loss he has,
he's gonna think he's drowning,
935
00:51:43,848 --> 00:51:47,268
and he's gonna stand on
your shoulders to save himself.
936
00:51:47,352 --> 00:51:49,354
He'll push you right under.
937
00:51:57,278 --> 00:51:58,863
John.
938
00:52:10,792 --> 00:52:12,752
Let me know if I can help you
this funding round.
939
00:52:12,836 --> 00:52:17,089
Just, uh, make some quiet calls.
940
00:52:17,173 --> 00:52:19,216
I used to consider you
one of the good ones.
941
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,261
Now I see you've turned
into a jackal like all the rest.
942
00:52:22,345 --> 00:52:24,472
I don't want you
anywhere near my company.
943
00:52:36,442 --> 00:52:39,111
"Google Ventures
is the largest investor,
944
00:52:39,195 --> 00:52:43,407
"with $257.79 million in.
945
00:52:43,491 --> 00:52:48,621
"This round values Uber at
around $3.4 billion pre-money,
946
00:52:48,705 --> 00:52:51,499
$3.76 billion post-money."
947
00:52:51,583 --> 00:52:53,334
This is absolutely
fucking great.
948
00:52:53,418 --> 00:52:55,419
Well, I'm happy to be here.
949
00:53:04,429 --> 00:53:05,971
You going down
to say hello to David?
950
00:53:06,055 --> 00:53:07,306
Yeah, I'm walking now.
951
00:53:07,390 --> 00:53:09,141
Uh, hey, listen,
I was just curious.
952
00:53:09,225 --> 00:53:12,478
When was it that, uh, you guys
decided to tank the Lyft deal
953
00:53:12,562 --> 00:53:16,065
and try to kill them
instead of buying them?
954
00:53:16,149 --> 00:53:19,652
There wasn't a specific
internal discussion.
955
00:53:19,736 --> 00:53:21,320
Well, I mean, did you, uh...?
956
00:53:21,404 --> 00:53:22,965
Did you lose my phone number
for a while,
957
00:53:22,989 --> 00:53:25,116
or you forget how to dial?
958
00:53:28,536 --> 00:53:31,413
We had a relationship
when you put me in, for sure.
959
00:53:31,497 --> 00:53:33,833
And we still have one now.
960
00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:36,168
It's different, though.
It has to be.
961
00:53:36,252 --> 00:53:38,963
Now, I know that.
You know that.
962
00:53:39,047 --> 00:53:42,007
Why don't we just enjoy
his success, Bill?
963
00:53:42,091 --> 00:53:44,385
It's all to our benefit.
964
00:53:52,227 --> 00:53:54,229
Alright, take care of your mom.
965
00:54:02,987 --> 00:54:04,572
What time is your flight?
966
00:54:04,656 --> 00:54:06,240
Tomorrow morning at 8:00.
967
00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:12,830
You finally left Rex alone
to shoot around out there, huh?
968
00:54:12,914 --> 00:54:15,708
I was just trying to impart
something about the game
969
00:54:15,792 --> 00:54:17,501
to our guy
before I leave tomorrow.
970
00:54:17,585 --> 00:54:19,003
Not just about the game.
971
00:54:19,087 --> 00:54:20,898
I tell you what,
I hope he listens to his coaches
972
00:54:20,922 --> 00:54:22,339
better than he does to me,
973
00:54:22,423 --> 00:54:24,263
because he tunes me out
like an old radio dial.
974
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:27,845
Because you play D1,
which he has to ignore,
975
00:54:27,929 --> 00:54:30,389
or it'll be too hard
to keep going.
976
00:54:30,473 --> 00:54:34,643
You always say a good coach
finds a way to cut through.
977
00:54:34,727 --> 00:54:37,521
Either gets loud or quiet,
978
00:54:37,605 --> 00:54:41,233
or finds an angle
until he's heard.
979
00:54:41,317 --> 00:54:43,361
I'm kind of sucking
at that lately.
980
00:54:47,115 --> 00:54:48,657
Say the rest.
981
00:54:48,741 --> 00:54:50,118
The thing you don't want to.
982
00:54:53,788 --> 00:54:57,125
Uber scored huge
in this last round.
983
00:54:58,835 --> 00:55:00,211
Massive.
984
00:55:01,337 --> 00:55:03,088
And you're mad? Why?
985
00:55:03,172 --> 00:55:05,049
Sounds like you did good.
986
00:55:05,133 --> 00:55:07,301
Because his wins are his,
987
00:55:07,385 --> 00:55:09,470
and his losses, his sins,
are all of ours.
988
00:55:09,554 --> 00:55:11,847
And he won't listen.
989
00:55:11,931 --> 00:55:13,390
Ah, you know,
I can't protect him.
990
00:55:13,474 --> 00:55:14,892
I...
991
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:24,443
I stood up for him.
992
00:55:24,527 --> 00:55:27,279
A smart guy,
a guy I greatly respect.
993
00:55:27,363 --> 00:55:29,365
He looked me right in the eye,
right in the soul,
994
00:55:29,449 --> 00:55:31,326
and he told me
exactly what he saw.
995
00:55:33,036 --> 00:55:34,537
There's nothing.
996
00:55:40,376 --> 00:55:43,295
Well, if Travis won't let you
protect him,
997
00:55:43,379 --> 00:55:45,673
then that's on him, not you.
998
00:55:47,884 --> 00:55:49,134
Or is this about the money?
999
00:55:49,218 --> 00:55:50,553
No.
1000
00:55:56,184 --> 00:55:57,602
A little.
1001
00:56:01,105 --> 00:56:02,856
A lot.
1002
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:05,359
At the end of this run,
it's the one that...
1003
00:56:05,443 --> 00:56:08,195
It's the one that pays
for all the others.
1004
00:56:08,279 --> 00:56:10,698
It's the one that makes it
so we nev...
1005
00:56:13,493 --> 00:56:17,330
Ever have to think
about money again.
1006
00:56:18,748 --> 00:56:21,041
Oh, I don't think
about it much now.
1007
00:56:21,125 --> 00:56:24,586
And I rarely heard you talk
about it until this...
1008
00:56:24,670 --> 00:56:28,007
This idea of changing
the family tree seemed possible.
1009
00:56:28,091 --> 00:56:32,177
Meaning I'm fine
just the way we are.
1010
00:56:32,261 --> 00:56:34,972
But what if you got the money
out of your head
1011
00:56:35,056 --> 00:56:37,016
and made the right decision?
1012
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,101
For the guy? For the team?
1013
00:56:39,185 --> 00:56:41,186
For everyone
who deals with them?
1014
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:43,188
Because if you don't,
1015
00:56:43,272 --> 00:56:46,609
I don't want to see you
carrying that around.
1016
00:56:51,739 --> 00:56:53,592
Hey, Bill, they should have
water out there for us.
1017
00:56:53,616 --> 00:56:55,284
But you want
anything else to drink?
1018
00:56:55,368 --> 00:56:57,346
- You want a soda or something?
- Water sounds just fine.
1019
00:56:57,370 --> 00:56:59,288
- Thanks, Mike.
- How about any, uh,
1020
00:56:59,372 --> 00:57:01,582
specific questions
you want me to ask you?
1021
00:57:04,043 --> 00:57:06,921
I think whatever you throw out
at me will be fine, yeah.
1022
00:57:09,674 --> 00:57:12,009
TK, Gurley's panel's up.
1023
00:57:12,093 --> 00:57:13,635
Oh, yeah.
1024
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,138
Think I mentioned the raise.
1025
00:57:17,723 --> 00:57:19,451
All right, it's about that time.
Are you ready?
1026
00:57:19,475 --> 00:57:21,769
- Yeah.
- All right, let's do it.
1027
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:27,150
You know, uh,
come to think of it, uh, Mike...
1028
00:57:29,569 --> 00:57:31,653
yeah, there is.
1029
00:57:34,575 --> 00:57:36,701
Bill, I got one
last question for you.
1030
00:57:37,927 --> 00:57:40,180
Do you think we're in
a tech bubble?
1031
00:57:42,915 --> 00:57:45,042
I think that we're in
a risk bubble.
1032
00:57:45,126 --> 00:57:47,586
Uh, especially with these, uh...
1033
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:49,213
these so-called unicorns.
1034
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:53,425
Except for your one
true unicorn, right, Bill?
1035
00:57:53,509 --> 00:57:58,764
We've flushed an excessive
amount of money onto them,
1036
00:57:58,848 --> 00:58:00,432
and they, uh...
1037
00:58:00,516 --> 00:58:03,602
Well, a lot of them,
including some favorites of mine
1038
00:58:03,686 --> 00:58:05,980
are, uh, acting, uh...
1039
00:58:07,231 --> 00:58:09,400
irrationally.
1040
00:58:09,484 --> 00:58:11,068
Warren Buffett has a...
1041
00:58:11,152 --> 00:58:12,569
Has a great saying.
1042
00:58:12,653 --> 00:58:14,238
"Be fearful
when others are greedy,
1043
00:58:14,322 --> 00:58:16,031
and be greedy
when others are fearful."
1044
00:58:16,115 --> 00:58:18,659
I'm not here to accuse anyone
of being greedy.
1045
00:58:18,743 --> 00:58:22,746
But there is nowhere near
enough fear
1046
00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:24,456
in Silicon Valley right now.
1047
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:29,628
And I think you will see
some dead unicorns this year.
1048
00:58:29,712 --> 00:58:31,547
There you have it,
ladies and gentlemen.
1049
00:58:31,631 --> 00:58:33,841
Bill Gurley.
1050
00:58:37,386 --> 00:58:38,679
What the fuck was that?
1051
00:58:49,857 --> 00:58:52,943
"Dead unicorns." What, is he
sending a coded fucking message?
1052
00:58:53,027 --> 00:58:56,321
Okay, we just raised
a crazy successful round.
1053
00:58:56,405 --> 00:58:58,824
We basically destroyed
our nearest rival,
1054
00:58:58,908 --> 00:59:00,659
and that's his fucking response?
1055
00:59:00,743 --> 00:59:02,036
I guess it was.
1056
00:59:04,539 --> 00:59:06,790
All right, he wants to play
with fucking baseball bats.
1057
00:59:06,874 --> 00:59:08,542
Let's play with bats.
1058
00:59:08,626 --> 00:59:11,128
Penny, I need a sit-down
with Bill Gurley
1059
00:59:11,212 --> 00:59:12,963
as soon as he is fucking back.
1060
00:59:13,281 --> 00:59:15,102
And get me building security.
1061
01:00:23,075 --> 01:00:24,535
Shit.
77536
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