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Previously on L .A. Law.
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Mr. Becker, am I correct in assuming
that you're interested in entering into
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some sort of romantic relationship with
me?
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Possible inappropriateness of such
candor notwithstanding, interested would
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far too mild of a word.
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Please understand something.
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I don't believe in recreational sex.
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Do not deprive each other so that you
may devote yourselves to prayer, 1
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Corinthians, chapter 7. Paul's letter to
the Corinthians was referring to
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married couples.
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I'm a virgin.
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I'm a virgin by choice, and I will
remain a virgin until the night of my
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wedding.
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Are you married?
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The answer is yes.
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Can I look now?
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No, not yet. Please.
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Okay.
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Now you can look.
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I stopped on the way to work this
morning.
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We should do that before we're married.
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Oh.
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Well, we have to see if they fit.
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Right.
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Let me do it. Oh, yeah.
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La, la, la, la.
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Oh,
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the judge, he faxed me the wedding vows.
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So... If you want, we can practice
before Saturday.
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Wow.
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Those are a lot of words.
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Yeah. Last time I just said, I do.
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What do you mean?
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Well, when I got married before, we just
said, I do.
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You got married before?
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I told you that, Benny.
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Didn't I?
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No.
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I thought I did.
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I guess I didn't.
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But it doesn't matter, though. It was a
long time ago.
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How long were you married?
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About three days. Then my parents found
out, and I haven't seen them much after
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that.
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Did your parents make you get a divorce?
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We didn't tell them we got married.
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How did you get a divorce?
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I guess we didn't.
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Do you think that that will be a
problem?
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Rosalie forgot to mention she was
married.
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Yeah, she was in high school. She and
another retarded kid ran away to Reno.
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They got married, lived in a motel for a
few days.
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Neither one of them told their parents
about the wedding. So Rosalie figured
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since they didn't really live together,
they weren't really married.
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How do you get a divorce finalized by
Saturday?
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I'm not going for a divorce. I'm going
for annulment.
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They were both underage. Neither one had
parental consent. All I have to do is
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get the husband to sign a declaration to
that effect. Walk it past the judge. No
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big deal.
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Well, I hope you're right. Let's get
started.
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Joyce versus Westland City School Board,
wrongful termination.
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That's mine.
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Michael Joyce is a high school biology
teacher. School board fired him for
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including a discussion of creation
science in a senior honors biology
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Good. Let's continue. Alvarez versus
National... Wait a minute. I'd like to
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a little bit more about Jane's case, if
you don't mind. What would you like to
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know? Tell me that we're representing
the school board. No, we're not. We're
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representing Michael Joyce.
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Why? That's who approached us. Well, he
didn't exactly approach us, Leland.
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Well, that's right. He approached Jane.
Jane came to me, and I approved. Wait a
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minute. Jane, this guy teaches
creationism in public schools? In a
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class, no less. He teaches both
evolution and creationism in a
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designed to permit the students to make
up their own minds. So now we are
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opposed to the separation of church and
state. Is that right? We are lining up
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against the First Amendment. I don't
believe what Michael did was violative
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the First Amendment. Leland, at the very
minimum... Should this not have been
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discussed among the partners prior to
taking the case? I wasn't aware that we
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had to be in ideological agreement with
every client we represent.
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With all due respect, Leland, I think
that's a little disingenuous.
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This isn't your garden variety
adversarial contest. This dispute is
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ideological. Yes, it is. And there are
attorneys here with differing
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as well as religious persuasions. I
don't think that Michael Joyce deserved
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be fired for teaching his students that
one explanation for how the world came
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into being was that God created it. Nor
do I. Oh.
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Nor do you. And are you going to favor
us with a biblical citation? No, I'm
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I'm simply going to say that each one of
us at different times has represented
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clients or causes that others have found
odious. That's not the point. This
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young woman is entitled to the same
latitude now that we've afforded each
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in the past. And as far as biblical
citations, Stuart, I believe that which
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writ large in the book of Job, chapter
33.
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The Spirit of God hath made me.
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The breath of the Almighty hath given me
life.
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Thank you. With that, it is done.
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Jane, don't hesitate to let me know if
you need any help with this case. I
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haven't had a chance.
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Dad?
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Hi, baby.
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What are you doing here?
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I came to see the trial.
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Why didn't you call me and tell me that
you were coming?
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Because you have enough on your mind
without worrying about me.
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Uh, Arnold, this is my father, Reverend
Halliday, Arnold Becker.
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How do you do, Mr. Becker? Very nice to
meet you. Likewise, Reverend.
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I'm sure I don't have to tell you, your
daughter is a great pleasure to have
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around. No, you don't, Mr. Becker. If it
had been up to me, she'd never left
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Oklahoma. Well, I have to get to court.
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Reverend, maybe the three of us can go
out and have lunch while you're in town.
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Oh, I don't think so.
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How about tomorrow?
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Oh, tomorrow I have to come back here
and have lunch at my desk. We could join
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you. No, no, I have to work.
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Well, Reverend, you and I should go out
then. Get me a tuna sandwich on rye, and
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I'll be here at 1 o 'clock.
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Shall we go?
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Nice to meet you. Bye -bye.
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What sort of academic credentials do you
have, Dr. Joyce?
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I have a Ph .D. in biology.
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My thesis was in evolutionary theory.
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And how long have you been teaching
biology at Westland High?
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Nine years.
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In that time, what kind of evaluations
have you gotten from your supervisors?
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Only good ones.
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In fact, last year I was offered a
promotion to an administrative position,
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which I declined.
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Why did you decline?
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Because I love to teach. That's all I've
ever wanted to do. In your discussions
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of the origins of life on Earth in your
senior honors science class, did you
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teach your students about evolution?
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Absolutely. Did you teach it as the
dominant scientific theory regarding the
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origin of life? Yes, I did. Did you also
teach your students the theory of
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creation science?
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Yes, I did. Why'd you do so?
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Because creation science is another
explanation for the origins of life.
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if anything, did the school board do in
response?
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They instructed me to cease and desist
to teach anything to do with creationism
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in my classroom.
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Did you comply?
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No, I did not.
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Why didn't you?
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Because as a teacher, I believe in the
right to explore alternative theories.
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I want my students to challenge and
question and analyze. I want them to
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to think for themselves and not just
absorb information.
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And I'm doing what I'm doing because I
believe it's right.
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And as far as I'm concerned, that is the
most important lesson I can teach them.
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Thank you. I have no further questions.
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Are you a Christian, Dr. Joyce?
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Objection irrelevant.
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We're trying to determine whether this
man is teaching science or religion. His
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own religious beliefs are relevant.
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It's what he does, not what he believes
that's relevant.
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Objection is sustained.
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Did you ever make your students aware of
your religious beliefs, sir? I never
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hid it from them. I also never took
class time to discuss them. Oh, did you
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about them other than during class time?
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Objection irrelevant.
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Your Honor, the way in which his
students perceive this man is directly
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relevant. Objection overruled.
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Witness may answer. Sir?
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I ran a Bible study class on weekends.
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Some of my high school students
attended.
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So it's fair to say, is it not, that the
students in your biology class knew
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that you yourself were a Christian? Is
that bad? Ask that the witness be
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instructed to answer the question. Yes,
they knew I was a Christian. They knew,
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did they not, that to you, creationism
was not just another theory.
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Creationism was the way it happened.
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Creationism was the word of God.
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Objection, Badger. My religious beliefs
do not dictate what I do in my science
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class. What I taught my students was
appropriate curriculum for biology
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to be taught. Did not. Your principal
informed you there was, in fact,
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inappropriate. Yes. That the curriculum
was not to include the teaching of
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creation science. Yes, he did. Yet you
were right on teaching it. Yes. Thank
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you. Nothing further, Your Honor. What
are you all so afraid of? You may step
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down, Mr. Joyce. Well, what is so
threatening about a teacher uttering the
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of God? Mr. Joyce.
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Let me walk you through this, Tim.
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I've prepared the papers.
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Once you and Rosalie sign the papers,
I'll file them with the court, and it'll
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be as though you two were never married.
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It's as easy as that.
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An annulment is quicker than a divorce.
It's simpler. It's also way cheaper.
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Yeah, plus it'll let them get married on
Saturday.
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Right.
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Are you going to invite me to their
wedding?
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No. You want to come?
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Maybe I do.
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Naturally, you are free to hire an
attorney, although this is all pretty
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straightforward. Why don't you read it
over? If you have any questions, I'll
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explain it.
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If you want to, you can take it home and
show it to someone else. You can do
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that, too. The only thing I ask is that
we get this done by tomorrow.
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How come you never call me back,
Rosalie?
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I don't know. It was a long, long time
ago. I don't remember.
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I called you every day for two weeks,
and you never returned my call.
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My mom didn't want me to.
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You always do what your mom wants? No.
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Then why didn't you call back?
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Arnie, might I suggest that we stick to
the here and now?
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First you walked out on me.
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Then you ignored me.
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Now you call me after all this time to
sign this paper so you can marry
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else? Tim, we're all men of the world
here. We've all loved and lost.
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Admittedly, it's no fun.
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But when the game is over...
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And the game is over here.
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It's time to sign the papers and move
on.
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Do you still have those blue cowboy
boots?
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No. I love the way you looked at them.
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I remember you wore them on the bus to
Reno.
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What are you going to do?
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Are you going to sign that paper or not?
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Not?
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Tim, we're supposed to get married on
Saturday.
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You cannot prevent them from getting
married, Tim.
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Eventually, we will get an annulment or
a divorce, whether you agree to it or
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not, and Rosalie will be free to marry
whoever she wants.
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Well, maybe she'll change her mind by
then and decide to stay married to me.
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That's him there.
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Hey, Tim.
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You can't come back here. I told your
boss I'd only keep you a minute. Why
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you come over here?
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That's the place right there.
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Listen, I think we may have all gotten a
little carried away by emotion
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yesterday. What do you think?
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I don't know. What are you talking
about?
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I thought I owed it to you to come by
here and make sure you understand the
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realities of the situation.
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Rosie and me are still married. That's
reality.
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Well, as far as it goes, yes, but...
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He wants to marry Benny, and you can't
stop her from divorcing you.
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You said divorce could take a year.
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It can, but so what?
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In the end, you still won't be married
anymore.
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Maybe yes, maybe no.
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Tim, there's also the possibility of a
criminal investigation.
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What do you mean? Taking a minor across
state lines is a crime.
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Encouraging her to lie about her age on
a marriage license, sex with a minor,
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that could be statutory rape.
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Did DeRozan start rape, Ted? It doesn't
matter what she said.
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She was under 18.
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You know what? I think you're trying to
scare me, so I signed a paper.
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I just want you to understand what might
happen.
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That's all I'm doing here, Ted. I'm not
going to sign the paper. I don't care
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what you do.
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Tracy, could you tell the court how you
know Mr. Joyce?
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I was in his senior honors science
class.
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Approximately how much of that class
would you say was spent discussing the
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origins of life?
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Out of the 15 -week semester, I'd say we
spent about three weeks on it. And what
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did you talk about during those
discussions?
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We talked about evolution theory, and we
talked about creation science theory,
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and then we discussed the strengths and
weaknesses of both. Did Mr. Joyce
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encourage debate among the students on
those ideas?
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Oh, absolutely.
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More than half our grade depended on
class participation. Did Mr.
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Joyce ever tell you that evolution was
wrong and creation science was right?
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No. What did you believe in before you
took Mr. Joyce's class, Tracy?
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I believed in evolution.
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And what do you believe in now?
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Evolution. I've questioned it on
occasion, but I still believe that's
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how life on Earth came into being.
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I have nothing further.
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Tracy, when Mr. Joyce taught
creationism, did he do so critically?
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I'm not sure I know what you mean.
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Did he place it in any historical
context?
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Did he mention, for example, the
scientific impossibility of the world
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into being in six days?
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He said there were things in both
evolution theory and creation science
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that don't have scientific explanations
yet.
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Did Mr. Joyce give as much credibility
to creationism as he did to evolution?
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Yes. Were there any students who
objected to that?
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Objection calls for hearsay. I'll allow
it.
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Tracy?
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Yes, there were students who objected.
And how did Mr. Joyce respond to those
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objections?
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He said any students who felt
uncomfortable could go to the library.
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Anyone take him up on that?
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No. Why do you suppose that is?
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Objection calls for the witness to
testify to the operation of another
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mind. I am asking the witness for an
opinion about her peers, Your Honor.
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Objection is overruled.
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Witness may answer. Tracy, why do you
suppose no one left the class?
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I don't know.
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Maybe it didn't seem so bad after all,
or maybe they wanted to be exposed to a
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different point of view. Do you think
it's possible they just didn't want to
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stand out from their peers, no matter
how uncomfortable they felt?
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Objection. Sustained. Do you like to
stand out from your peers, Tracy?
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No. No.
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Thank you. I have nothing further.
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Witness may step down.
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Tell me that I'm dreaming.
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This is unbelievable.
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How could she make us wear these?
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Well, she's not exactly Coco Chanel,
Denise.
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This is beyond not Chanel. This is
beyond queen.
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Don't come in.
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Laugh and you're a dead man.
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Did Rosalie describe these ensembles to
you beforehand?
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She told us she would order things that
we would wear again.
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Excuse me while I change.
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No, it's...
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It's not so bad. Are you kidding? I feel
like Little Bo Peep.
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It's a bridesmaid's outfit. I don't
care, Stuart. I don't want to go out in
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public looking like this.
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It's no big deal.
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What do you mean? I mean that everybody
will primarily be looking at the bride
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anyway. Will you primarily be looking at
the bride?
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No, but it doesn't matter to me what
you're wearing.
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Uh -huh.
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I said the wrong thing.
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Forget it.
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No. It's not that I don't care what
you're wearing.
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It's that what you're wearing has no
effect on me.
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No, what I mean is it doesn't change the
way I think about you. You know, I know
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that you're capable of looking good.
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I mean, you do look good.
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In that dress, you look good. You know,
not everybody could get away with
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wearing a dress like that, but you...
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Eli, I'm changing.
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Why are you changing in here?
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Because the ladies' room is fully
occupied. Now, can you please close the
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Eli, close the door from the outside.
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Oh. I'll just be a minute, okay?
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Should I take my briefcase or leave my
briefcase? Eli! I'll leave my briefcase.
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Okay, I'm leaving.
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You know, I find that certain
theological questions come to mind
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Is that right?
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Well, I wonder about the nature of
things. Sin, the revelation of God,
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The Bible has a good deal to say on all
those subjects, Arnold. I find myself
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thinking Thessalonians says one thing,
Obadiah says something else. What's the
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story? Tell me something, Arnold.
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Have you always been such a keen student
of the Bible?
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No, sir, I haven't. To tell you the
truth, your daughter has awakened in me
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real hunger for spiritual direction.
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Look, I have to get some work done
before I go back to court.
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Lunch is here. Ah, you like meatball
sandwiches?
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Excuse me? Place not far from here makes
great meatball sandwiches.
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I wanted to buy you from there. Ben said
you liked this place, so we went there
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instead. By the way, Dominic Nucci.
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How do you do?
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Dominic, this is Jane's father, Reverend
Holiday.
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Reverend, how do you do?
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Fine. Nice to meet you.
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How's the plans for the wedding coming,
Benny?
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Not so good.
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Hey, don't worry, Benno. We'll get
there. Be good, everybody.
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Thank you.
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You know, I'm surprised Jane has never
mentioned you to her mother or me. You
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seem to know each other very well.
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Not as well as I'd like to.
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Mr. Osborne, as president of the school
board, is it your policy that once you
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hire a teacher, he or she can teach
their students anything they want?
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No, it's not.
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The curriculum for each area of study is
laid out by the State Board of
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Education.
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If a teacher wants to augment that, we
look at the additional materials, and
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then we make a determination as to
whether or not it's appropriate.
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I see.
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And is creation science part of the
established curriculum?
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No, it is not. According to the State
Board of Education, creationism, or
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creation science, if you will, is a
religious and not a scientific
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for the origins of life. And as such, it
has no place in a public high school
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science class.
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But don't the students have the right to
hear and discuss a variety of points of
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view? In a science class, students have
the right to hear and discuss science.
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Mr. Joyce was not teaching science. He
was teaching religion.
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And in your opinion, was that alone
sufficient grounds for termination?
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Absolutely. He'd been given numerous
warnings.
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and willfully ignored them.
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I think those grounds are eminently
sufficient.
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I have nothing further.
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Mr. Osborne, are there circumstances
under which you deem the discussion of
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religion permissible?
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Yes, there are. In a social studies
class, a literature class, but not in a
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science class.
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Why not in a science class?
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Because when you teach biblical
explanations of historical events under
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heading of science...
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The tacit implication is that they are
true. Is it possible, Mr.
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Osborne, that for some people they are
true? What is true for some people does
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not constitute science.
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Are they true for you?
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I don't take the Bible literally, no.
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And you want to make sure that nobody
else does either. Objection. I want to
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make sure we're not allowing a high
school biology class to be used to
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fundamentalist Christian point of view.
Does a belief in the Bible make one a
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fundamentalist Christian, Mr.
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Osborne?
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No. I did not mean to suggest that it
did.
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I have nothing further.
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Witness is excused.
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You want I should talk to him?
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What would you say to him?
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I'd straighten him out. Don't worry
about what I say.
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Arnie already talked to him. He won't
sign.
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Hey, Benny, all due respect, Arnie's a
lawyer.
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This situation calls for a different
approach.
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Arnie goes in with the briefcase, the
big words. I go in with a bing, with a
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bang, it's done.
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Hey, Benny, did Arnie get his sign?
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No. What are we going to do?
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I don't know.
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The place has been reserved because the
food, the dresses, the invitations have
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been sent.
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What's the band? I got a six -piece band
coming.
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I've got to talk to you, Benny.
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What? Oh, you want a little privacy?
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Fine.
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Let me know if you want me to take care
of it, Ben.
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I don't want you to be mad at me
anymore.
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Ever since I told you about that guy,
you've been mad at me. I don't want you
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be mad at me anymore.
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Do you still love him? I never loved
him.
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Then why did you marry him?
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Anyway, you had someone who you did
love. You told me that yourself.
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And not the same.
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I told you about her.
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Tim is not a secret.
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I forgot about him.
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I do that sometimes. I forget about
things.
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Maybe you'll forget about me.
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Oh, I could never forget about you,
Benny.
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I love you.
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So, how do you gentlemen feel about your
firm being placed in the service of
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Christ Jesus?
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Pretty good.
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Some of us. Our little girl may be the
standard bearer, but it's you people who
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are making it possible for her to go
forward.
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Daddy. Well, Reverend, we have nothing
but the highest regard for your
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She's done nothing but great work since
she got here. When Jane told us she was
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going to work as a lawyer in Los
Angeles, we said, dear Jesus, give her
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strength to keep the devil under her
feet. Keep old Slewfoot from snatching
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little girl away. And I can't tell you
how happy we are that she's living here
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and still doing the work of the Lord.
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Dad, we need to get to court.
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I'll see you gentlemen at the wedding.
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You're going to the wedding?
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Then he asked me to officiate.
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Yikes. Well, there's goyim and there's
goyim.
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Jim.
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Go away.
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I want to talk to you.
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You can't scare me. You've been already
tried.
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I'm not trying to scare you. I just want
to talk to you.
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Come here.
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What do you want?
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I want you to sign that paper.
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I don't want to. I want to marry Rosalie
this Saturday.
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She's already married.
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She wants to be married to me.
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Oh yeah? How come you're so great?
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I'm not so great.
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You think you're smarter than me? No.
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You think you're better than me because
you work in the office and I work in the
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kitchen? No.
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Then how come you get to marry her? How
come you get everything you want?
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Because she loves me.
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She could love me, too.
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She wants to love me.
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That was a long time ago.
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I don't care.
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I want a wife, too.
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You can have a wife. It just can't be
Rosalie.
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I don't know anybody else.
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I got to get back to work.
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Tim, would you... Would you please sign
that paper?
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Would you please tell the court your
occupation, sir? I'm a research
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and an advisor on science curriculum for
the State Board of Education.
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My specialty is origins of life theory.
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Now, in your view, does the biblical
explanation for the origins of life
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as science?
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No, it does not.
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Why does it not?
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In science, one bases one's conclusions
on scientific methodology, on empirical
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observation. Now, how does this differ
from creationism, Doctor?
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Creationism starts with a conclusion, as
set out in the Bible in Genesis.
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Then goes about finding data and ways to
interpret that data to support the
477
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:02,600
conclusion. I think I'm safe in saying
that the body of scientific knowledge
478
00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:07,439
our civilization, draws on does not
support the notion that the world as we
479
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,020
it was created.
480
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,730
In six days.
481
00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:11,940
No further questions.
482
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,260
You believe in the theory of evolution,
isn't that right, Doctor?
483
00:27:17,261 --> 00:27:19,119
It isn't a theory, Miss Halliday.
484
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,460
It's an observable fact.
485
00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:25,559
Like the shape of the Earth, the speed
of light. Is the origin of the first
486
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,600
forms found on Earth an observable fact?
487
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,339
Not yet, no. But there are various
theories that seek to explain it. Is the
488
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:36,780
development of DNA an observable fact?
489
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,600
Not yet, no. But...
490
00:27:38,601 --> 00:27:40,559
Again, there are a number of theories.
491
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,039
But those are just theories, isn't that
right, Doctor?
492
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,230
They are scientifically grounded, but
yes, they are theories.
493
00:27:46,231 --> 00:27:49,819
That would lead one to conclude, would
it not, Doctor, that there are things
494
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:53,500
about the universe that can't be
explained with observable scientific
495
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,130
Not yet, no.
496
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600
So not yet, but definitely not God.
497
00:27:57,601 --> 00:27:58,829
Miss Halliday.
498
00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:02,409
If we pointed to the existence of God,
every time we came up against something
499
00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:06,109
that we couldn't explain, we'd still be
living in the Dark Ages. Isn't part of
500
00:28:06,110 --> 00:28:09,849
not living in the Dark Ages that we are
free to consider a wide array of ideas
501
00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:12,980
and beliefs? You can consider whatever
you want, Ms. Halliday.
502
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:18,729
What you can't do is place religious
mythology on the same pedestal as
503
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:22,580
evolutionary science. In other words,
you want the pedestal all to yourself.
504
00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:24,350
Objection. Nothing further.
505
00:28:28,451 --> 00:28:33,539
You're still brooding. Why are you still
brooding?
506
00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:35,100
I'm not brooding. Yeah, you are.
507
00:28:35,101 --> 00:28:39,459
Ever since I said whatever it was I said
about your dress, you've been in a full
508
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:40,510
-on brood.
509
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,300
It was a painful thing to hear, Stuart.
Why?
510
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,010
You know that I still have desire for
you, don't you?
511
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,890
I guess I don't know it as much as I
used to know it.
512
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:54,010
Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that
aren't the way they used to be, huh?
513
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,090
Like what else?
514
00:29:00,389 --> 00:29:04,230
Like one's desire doesn't come to the
fore as often as it used to?
515
00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:09,290
We work hard all day. We've got a kid at
home. We're tired.
516
00:29:10,390 --> 00:29:12,130
Our stamina isn't what it used to be.
517
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:15,470
I don't want to require stamina, Stuart.
518
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:18,840
I don't want our marriage to be
something that we endure.
519
00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:24,290
Why do you read these vast, gloomy
passages in everything I say?
520
00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:27,630
There will be periods of time when the
fire is out, yes.
521
00:29:27,631 --> 00:29:31,329
But that doesn't mean I don't love you.
It doesn't mean I don't desire you. It
522
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:33,070
probably just means that I'm tired.
523
00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:34,180
Fine.
524
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:36,790
And now she says fine.
525
00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:40,190
And now she is not going to let up on
me.
526
00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:45,469
Because I haven't demonstrated the
requisite amount of sympathy or passion
527
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:48,120
whatever the hell it is I'm supposed to
demonstrate.
528
00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:52,110
I'll tell you something, honey.
529
00:29:52,111 --> 00:29:55,699
Demonstrations of passion are supposed
to arise spontaneously.
530
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,919
And it doesn't help matters that I live
in fear of offending you all the time.
531
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,719
That I think you're going to jump down
my throat every time I might make an
532
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,860
inappropriate remark.
533
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:04,030
Think about that.
534
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,900
And think about what you might have done
if the fire is out to put it out.
535
00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:16,340
What do you want, Arnie?
536
00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:17,740
He said he wanted to see you.
537
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:23,120
What do you want?
538
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:26,250
I came to sign the paper. You did?
539
00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,810
Yeah, I didn't do it because of you.
540
00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:32,530
And I didn't do it because of you
either. I did it because of Rosalie.
541
00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:34,320
That's okay.
542
00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:39,630
But I want you to give this to her
before the wedding.
543
00:30:39,890 --> 00:30:42,410
May I inquire as to what is in there?
No.
544
00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:45,890
And you can't look at what's inside
there either.
545
00:30:46,510 --> 00:30:48,130
You've got to promise not to look.
546
00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:49,720
Oh, okay.
547
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,990
You also gotta promise that you'll give
it to her.
548
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,750
Okay.
549
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,010
So you promise?
550
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,050
I promise.
551
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,090
Where do I sign?
552
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,730
Right there.
553
00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:22,940
You're getting married.
554
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,210
Yeah.
555
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240
You may proceed with your closing, Ms.
Halliday.
556
00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:31,740
Michael Joyce is a teacher.
557
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,739
His job was to prepare a group of
students to go out into the world, to
558
00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:39,560
them. That's what he loved to do.
559
00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:40,870
That's what he did.
560
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:45,979
What he refused to do was put blinders
on his students, to tell them to ask
561
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:50,779
questions, but only these questions, to
look for answers, but don't look over
562
00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:52,760
there. Don't even look over there.
563
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:58,799
When he didn't comply, when he refused
to narrow his students' vision, he was
564
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,699
fired. Michael Joyce is not the first to
refuse to be bound by convention, to
565
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:09,599
refuse to adhere to a set of ideas and
beliefs held out to him as the one and
566
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,650
only truth.
567
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,879
That's what Galileo did, that's what
Charles Darwin did, and that is also
568
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,930
John Scopes did.
569
00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:20,799
In Dayton, Tennessee in 1925, those in
power would permit only the teaching of
570
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:27,759
creationism. In Los Angeles, California
in 1994, those in power permit only the
571
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,900
teaching of evolution.
572
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,379
In both cases, those in power have
sought to cut off the field of inquiry
573
00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:37,800
forcibly impose their view of the world
onto everyone else.
574
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,879
service that we can do Michael Joyce's
students is to permit them to make up
575
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,930
their own minds.
576
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:51,119
We ask that you reinstate Michael Joyce
with full back pay and allow him to
577
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,170
resume teaching.
578
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Michael Joyce's job was to teach science
to high school students.
579
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:06,560
When he signed his contract, he agreed
to an authorized curriculum.
580
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:11,589
and he agreed to follow the directives
of his principal and his school board.
581
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,289
has not done either of those things.
582
00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:17,029
Now, the plaintiff contends that the
authorized curriculum was unreasonably
583
00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:20,950
narrow, that those directives were
without justification.
584
00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:26,189
They're wrong, ladies and gentlemen. The
fact is that the United States
585
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:31,070
Constitution requires the separation of
church and state.
586
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:35,809
Despite plaintiff's claims to the
contrary, what Michael Joyce did was in
587
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:36,930
violation of that.
588
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:42,579
He was teaching religion as if it was
science. He was using his authority and
589
00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:48,639
his influence as a teacher to propagate
his religious views, and he can't do
590
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,159
that. Now, it doesn't matter that his
students want him to continue. It
591
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,759
matter that he himself is utterly
sincere in his beliefs. What matters
592
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,470
that a school board is upholding its
responsibility.
593
00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:05,249
for keeping religious teachings out of
the public school because the First
594
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,230
Amendment requires them to.
595
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:11,389
I ask that you find for the defendant.
596
00:34:21,371 --> 00:34:28,799
How do you respond to charges that your
client represents an encroachment on
597
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,439
public education by members of the
religious right? I would categorically
598
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,658
it. Are you in favor of the
constitutional separation of church and
599
00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:39,209
I would prefer to try my case in the
courtroom rather than the corridor.
600
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:44,178
Ephesians 6 tells us to put on the full
armor of God and take our stand against
601
00:34:44,179 --> 00:34:47,939
the devil's schemes. Are you connected
to this case, sir? He is not. Come on,
602
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,939
Reverend, let's go. We have to be
willing to speak the word of God
603
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,300
are, Jamie. My Redeemer liveth. This is
what he commands me to do.
604
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,620
What is it you're so afraid of, Doctor?
605
00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:02,939
I'm afraid of religious zealots like
you, Reverend. Praise God, that must
606
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:03,990
I'm doing my job.
607
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:07,780
Whenever I see the power of Satan lined
up against me...
608
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:11,929
Whenever I see the eyes of
schoolchildren turned upward so that the
609
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:16,669
revealed and that truth is not revealed
and that truth is hidden and perverted
610
00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:22,629
and denied, then I have only to turn to
the nail -scarred hands of Calvary for
611
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:28,969
my strength. And you, Doctor... Now
we're going to lead off with a miniature
612
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:33,189
seared ahi, then we go to the miniature
lasagna, then the miniature panini, and
613
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:35,869
then the miniature bellini. Now, is
everyone aware of that?
614
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:36,920
Yes, ma 'am.
615
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:41,740
Have you seen Rosalie?
616
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,340
She's getting dressed.
617
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,740
Where? Upstairs in the bedroom. Why?
618
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Well, I have to give her something.
619
00:35:47,641 --> 00:35:51,219
Oh, no, Benny, that's not possible.
You're not permitted to see the bride
620
00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:52,079
the wedding.
621
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,520
That's a lot of dough, right?
622
00:35:53,521 --> 00:35:56,159
Dominic, how many times are you going to
tell me that you paid for the band? I
623
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,599
wasn't aware I told you already. Hello,
Denise. Don't you look wonderful?
624
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,820
Thanks. Hello, Dominic.
625
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,200
Hello. I can't see Rosalie before the
wedding? Of course not. It's bad luck.
626
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:07,780
Would you give this to her?
627
00:36:07,781 --> 00:36:09,499
What is it?
628
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,779
Oh, I don't know. I promised Tim I'd get
it to her before the wedding, and I
629
00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:15,580
promised him I wouldn't look inside.
630
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,080
I'll give it to her right now.
631
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,980
I wonder what it is.
632
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,790
It's in an envelope, so chances are it's
a letter.
633
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,520
You think that's a letter?
634
00:36:24,521 --> 00:36:27,019
What are you worried about, Benny? She's
marrying you.
635
00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:30,459
They tell me I can't get a drink before
the ceremony. What is this? They told me
636
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:31,960
the same thing. It's the mother.
637
00:36:31,961 --> 00:36:34,449
Barney, you think I should have looked
in that envelope?
638
00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:35,129
For what?
639
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:36,180
I don't know.
640
00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:39,929
See what he said or... Benno, do
yourself a favor. Don't start looking
641
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,450
rocks. You've got a past. She's got a
past.
642
00:36:42,451 --> 00:36:45,169
You start delving into it, you're only
going to cause yourself a lot of
643
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:48,229
unnecessary anguish. In other words,
forget about it. Exactly. Meanwhile,
644
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:49,189
you seen the band?
645
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:51,960
No. I hired a six -piece band. I haven't
seen Musician One.
646
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:54,960
Don't worry about what came before the
wedding.
647
00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,170
Start worrying about what comes after.
648
00:37:08,919 --> 00:37:12,169
Don't tell me you're never going to talk
to your old father again.
649
00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:15,120
I'm sorry if I stepped on your toes
yesterday.
650
00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:16,960
You're not the least bit sorry.
651
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800
You saw the opportunity to preach, and
you preached.
652
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,010
Preaching's what I do, daughter. I was
put on this earth so I would preach.
653
00:37:24,011 --> 00:37:27,299
And I was put on this earth to be a
lawyer. And from what I can see, you're
654
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,039
doing a fine job as a lawyer, as well as
being a decent young Christian woman.
655
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,950
Why wouldn't you stop yesterday when I
asked you to? Why did you embarrass me?
656
00:37:34,951 --> 00:37:37,819
Because some things are more important
than your embarrassment.
657
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,870
This is where I work.
658
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:43,249
You showed up unannounced and uninvited
and proceeded to take over. I left
659
00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:45,689
Oklahoma, so you wouldn't be able to do
that to me.
660
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:46,830
Is that why you left?
661
00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:49,570
Among other reasons, yes.
662
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,530
Can we talk about this?
663
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:55,360
I'm due in court.
664
00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:03,710
Has the jury reached a verdict?
665
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:09,189
We have, Your Honor. What say you? On
the claim of wrongful termination, we
666
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:10,240
for the defendant.
667
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:12,840
The jury is dismissed with the thanks of
the court.
668
00:38:14,590 --> 00:38:15,810
I'm sorry, Michael.
669
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:18,970
We knew it was a long shot.
670
00:38:19,570 --> 00:38:20,620
We can appeal.
671
00:38:20,621 --> 00:38:24,489
I think I'd rather just teach someplace
else, maybe in a private school.
672
00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:26,249
God's been bragging on you, Michael.
673
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,490
I know you're not going to walk away
now.
674
00:38:28,491 --> 00:38:32,569
We have to go to a wedding, Dad, and
this is something that Michael needs to
675
00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:33,620
decide for himself.
676
00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:35,480
I'll call you.
677
00:38:35,710 --> 00:38:36,760
Thank you.
678
00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:39,080
Oh, why not?
679
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:43,330
Please? No, honey, I just don't think
it's a good idea that you open it now.
680
00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:46,410
But he asked me to. Well, he had no
right to ask you to.
681
00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:49,450
Mom. All right, go ahead. Open it.
682
00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:53,780
What does it say?
683
00:38:58,350 --> 00:39:00,530
I love you then, and I love you now.
684
00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:04,250
Tim, this is all I needed.
685
00:39:04,890 --> 00:39:09,389
Fran, why don't we... Would you help me
with this sleeve? I'm having trouble
686
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:10,440
here.
687
00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:12,350
You okay?
688
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:22,220
Yeah.
689
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:27,610
Benjamin, do you take Rosalie...
690
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,819
To be your wife, to love and to cherish
from this day forward, for better or for
691
00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:34,380
worse, until death do you part?
692
00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:36,110
I do.
693
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,239
And do you, Rosalie, take Benjamin to be
your husband, to love and to cherish
694
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,670
from this day forward, for better or
worse, until death do you part?
695
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,490
I do.
696
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,550
Rings, please.
697
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480
With this ring, I thee wed.
698
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,080
With this ring, I be wed.
699
00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:01,200
You're supposed to put it on my finger.
700
00:40:01,580 --> 00:40:05,360
With this ring, I be wed.
701
00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:13,120
With this ring, I be wed.
702
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,620
I now pronounce you husband and wife.
703
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,140
You may kiss the bride.
704
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,850
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
705
00:40:33,851 --> 00:40:34,929
and Mrs.
706
00:40:34,930 --> 00:40:36,869
Benjamin Dover. What
707
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:44,789
is
708
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:45,840
it about weddings?
709
00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:48,450
It's their monumentality. Is that what
it is?
710
00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:55,649
Two people of transversely seemingly
impenetrable gulf found one another,
711
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:58,000
in love, and changed their lives
accordingly.
712
00:40:58,370 --> 00:41:00,130
It's amazing that it ever happens.
713
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,450
Yes, it is.
714
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,820
You know, the wildest I've ever been was
at a wedding.
715
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,120
What do you mean by wild?
716
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880
Let's just say I did things I don't
ordinarily do.
717
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,490
What kind of things?
718
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:23,359
Well, I drank a little too much, got
carried away, I took off with the best
719
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,360
man, lost several articles of clothing,
you know, things like that.
720
00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:28,639
Done that?
721
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,690
Uh -huh.
722
00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:32,390
Uh -huh.
723
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,010
Me too.
724
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,020
Say, you still seeing that dead?
725
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,210
Oh, yeah.
726
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:41,640
Why didn't you bring her?
727
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,940
I think there were going to be a few too
many warriors here for her.
728
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,840
Oh, hey, Jonathan. Tommy.
729
00:41:47,841 --> 00:41:49,379
I heard you became a partner.
730
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:50,430
Congratulations.
731
00:41:55,580 --> 00:41:57,440
Well, are congratulations in order?
732
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,610
By all means.
733
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,600
Well, hold on, Occupy.
734
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,480
Hey, I... Are they happy together?
735
00:42:07,481 --> 00:42:08,239
I...
736
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:19,179
Don't
737
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,720
ever tell me the fire's out.
738
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:28,760
Well, I was wondering what was in the
envelope Tim sent you.
739
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:30,300
It was a picture.
740
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360
What kind of picture? The picture means
him.
741
00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:38,020
There was no letter in there?
742
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,660
No, he just wrote something on the
picture.
743
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:45,840
Would you show it to me if I asked you
to?
744
00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:48,830
Yes.
745
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,740
Are you asking me to?
746
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:56,770
No.
747
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:20,530
S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z.
748
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:25,630
S -T -U -L -W -I -C -Z.
749
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:27,840
That's nice.
750
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:29,470
Did the band get here?
751
00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:32,400
I don't know, Dominic. I can't brain
them anymore.
752
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:35,520
Oh, Denise.
753
00:43:35,521 --> 00:43:43,009
Sometimes I look at you and I think of
the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.
754
00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:44,060
Eli.
755
00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:45,580
I don't think it a lot.
756
00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:52,169
allow myself to think it a lot we've
known each other for a long time we work
757
00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:55,629
together we're friends we've never been
anything other than friends and every
758
00:43:55,630 --> 00:44:00,169
now and then the thought crosses your
mind right it's okay it's
759
00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:07,009
an impulse though isn't it everyone has
impulses some you act on some you
760
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:12,409
don't i think i'll interrupt this dinner
party by sitting on my food no i won't
761
00:44:12,410 --> 00:44:17,100
do that i think i'll Ask a complete
stranger to loan me $50 ,000.
762
00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:18,760
No, I won't do that.
763
00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:30,679
Oh, my
764
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,730
God.
765
00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:51,510
I've been looking for you.
766
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:53,980
What's wrong?
767
00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:55,640
Nothing.
768
00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:59,060
Well, you're out here all by yourself.
Something is wrong.
769
00:45:00,710 --> 00:45:03,600
Of course something is wrong. Your
father's been out here.
770
00:45:04,090 --> 00:45:06,030
Well, my father's been out here so long.
771
00:45:06,031 --> 00:45:09,909
So ever since he arrived, you've been
reminded of all the reasons you left
772
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:11,290
Oklahoma in the first place.
773
00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:14,790
The sense of yourself as an attorney has
been undermined.
774
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:18,670
The sense of yourself as a woman has
been conflicted.
775
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:21,360
You don't know the first thing about me.
776
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,210
I think I do.
777
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,280
And I'm telling you, you don't.
778
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,820
I don't want to be psychoanalyzed, and I
don't want to be preached to.
779
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,280
Believe it or not, I am not some empty
vessel waiting to be filled.
780
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,580
I know what I want.
781
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:40,300
I know what I need.
782
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,820
And I am perfectly capable of deciding
how I want to live my life.
783
00:45:53,371 --> 00:45:55,469
Now I'm go
784
00:45:55,470 --> 00:46:00,020
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