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I can't explain to you
why a person
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would do something like this.
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Some glitch, some wire
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that didn't hook up
to the right spot.
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It seemed like every time
we turned around,
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there was another body.
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So in a 12 square mile,
you had nine victims.
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The person was trying
to rub our face into it,
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knowing that he's
gonna get away with it.
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We were looking into one
of the most prolific
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serial killers
in Louisiana history.
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This is a serial killer
you've never heard of.
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And she kept repeating,
he's going to kill me.
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And he shoots my daughter.
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That's about
the only time in my career
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that I just wanted
to shoot him.
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You can run.
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You can't hide.
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The thing about Louisiana
is that when you travel
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from parish to parish
and town to town,
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you get different culture.
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And that is what's
so great about the state.
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Kenner is its own
little tiny metropolis
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on the outskirts
of New Orleans.
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Kenner has its own
culture as well.
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And I think that's fed by a
lot of the different
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immigrants that
call Kenner home.
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It's the area that's right
before you hit what's called
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the Bonne Carre Spillway,
which is
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this long stretch of roadway
that heads toward
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Baton Rouge and areas west.
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Crime in Kenner has
actually been down
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since the early and mid-'90s.
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You know, we average maybe four
a--four a year of homicides.
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My participation
in these investigations
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stemmed from three homicides
we had here
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in the city of Kenner.
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Back in the late '90s,
young males were
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dumped in various parts of the
city of Kenner on the roadside.
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A man named Manuel Reed
was found strangled.
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He was thrown in a business
trash bin in Kenner,
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but he had been strangled
and raped.
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These three were unique
because the bodies
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were disposed of
where they were gonna
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be found the next morning.
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So they were
positioned to be found.
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It wasn't like somebody was
trying to hide these bodies.
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You know, we had no idea that
we were dealing with,
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you know, some--
something larger.
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We worked it as trying
to find--identify the victim.
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Where did he come from?
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You know, what--
try to find out
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how the perpetrator got here
in the city of Kenner
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to discard a body.
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The victims were
similar in age.
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And then we started
asking around.
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So with the local
parish sheriff's office,
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had something similar
in St. Charles Parish.
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So we started to
compare notes and talk.
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By this time, I think
it was our three,
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and the sheriff's office
had an additional three
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all within, you know,
with a two-year frame
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where bodies
were just discarded,
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where someone would find them,
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either near a dumpster
or near a roadway.
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So that's kind of when we
started thinking that
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it may be the same person.
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We were trying to see
if it was a,
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like a certain type
of individual that was preying
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on these--these people.
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The Christmas
decorations are up
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in this
St. Charles Parish home,
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but all over the living room
are pictures
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of 19-year-old David Mitchell,
who was murdered.
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It's been hell
every single day.
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Every night, I can't sleep.
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I toss and turn because
I can't--you know,
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I don't have any closure.
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I don't know what happened,
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how it happened,
why it happened or anything.
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It's been--it's been
living hell.
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David was
a happy-go-lucky person.
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He was always jolly.
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He could never hurt
a flea or anything.
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He had to be center stage,
you know?
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He had to be the clown
and his dancing.
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And he always made people
laugh and everything, you know?
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Everything I did,
you know, I did for him.
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I took him everywhere I went.
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I bought him clothes.
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I just did everything
I could because I--
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Like, that was a part of me.
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Some of these cases started
as missing person cases.
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So Oliver LeBanks
was 27 years old.
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He was doing the job
that a lot of people
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do in New Orleans,
which is work
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in the hospitality industry.
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He worked at
a French Quarter restaurant.
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He was a dishwasher there.
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He was a family guy.
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He had five daughters.
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His body was found in Metairie,
and he had been strangled.
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What is similar
about all these crimes?
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Early on, we were able
to determine that some of them
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were coming out of the city
of New Orleans,
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last seen in the city, mostly
African Americans, you know,
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really come from poor areas
of the city.
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Some of the ones
here in Kenner,
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they were just last seen in,
you know, neighboring parishes,
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walking the streets
with no detail of, you know,
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the exact time,
the exact, you know, date
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that someone was last seen.
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The characteristics
of every victim
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were they would
walk the streets.
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I mean, they were young,
same physical build,
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no gunshot wounds.
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They were all, you know,
strangled, some form.
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A lot of them didn't have
broken bones or bruising
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that you would see whenever
there's a struggle,
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which was interesting
for investigators.
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A lot of them didn't
have a lot of money.
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Many of them were vulnerable.
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They were all men.
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And I think that was
one of the tells
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that made them say,
hey, wait a second.
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We need to connect
these cases.
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We need to get a task force
together and figure out
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what happened to these men.
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The three victims that are
found in the city of Kenner,
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the three victims found
in St. Charles Parish,
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and three victims in Jefferson
Parish were relatively close.
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So within a 12 square mile,
you had nine victims,
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two of them being dumped within
several feet of each other,
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months apart.
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Serial killers are rare.
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Well, I thought they were rare
until this period of time,
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where apparently
there were enough
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going around South Louisiana
to make everyone take note.
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We really didn't
get a good grasp
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on the kind of person
that was--that was doing this.
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But the geographical
layout was,
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it was someone that was gonna
be from within this area.
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Was it someone that was
comfortable in his environment
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that, you know,
didn't care to be caught?
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Or was he just good enough
to get away with it?
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All of a sudden,
Metro New Orleans
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doesn't get any more
of these dumped bodies of--
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of the same,
you know, type victim.
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They all started coming down
several miles
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in lower Louisiana in and
around the city of Houma.
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Terrebonne Parish is one
of the most beautiful parts
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of Southeast Louisiana,
small highways that are
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lined by sugarcane fields.
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It's just calming when
you're driving down there.
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It's peaceful.
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It's quiet.
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I grew up in Houma, and it's
a very close-knit community.
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The people there
have very big hearts.
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But at the time, it seemed like
every time we turned around,
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there was another body.
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Some of these guys
had decomposed
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to the point they couldn't have
these open casket funerals.
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They really never got to
say goodbye to these people
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in a proper way.
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The rapes themselves,
that horrified the families,
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it really just
tore them to their core.
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Some of them didn't have
extensive families
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to sound the alarm
about the cases and anything
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falling through the cracks.
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My impression was,
there were a lot
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of crickets in the community.
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People just didn't seem to
make much of an impact at all.
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I mean, I'm still shocked, and
I'm still surprised by that.
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So, you know, it was really
kind of an eye-opener for me.
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And the fact that,
you know, a lot of people
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weren't jumping on TV talking
about how horrified they were
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that this had happened,
I think that was
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shocking to me as well,
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just because of the nature
of the crimes.
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The victims were not all
but mostly homosexual.
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It didn't have the grip
that killing
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young, beautiful women does.
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There were two
other serial killers
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loose in South Louisiana...
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Who are getting most
of the publicity.
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They were Derrick Todd Lee
and Sean Gillis.
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Both of them were attacking,
kidnapping, raping, and killing
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young, attractive women.
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I remember Datrell Woods
just because I was there.
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I remember he was young.
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The killer dumped him with his
bicycle in a sugarcane field
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out behind a church.
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And it was summer,
and it was hot.
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And he'd been there.
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And it wasn't
a pleasant scene.
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So I remember going to the--
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to his house and talking to his
parents after he was found.
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And his--there were a lot of--
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there was a lot of family
there and a lot of heartache.
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It was very sparse,
and it was very spread out
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over so many parishes.
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It wasn't until the end there
that it seemed to escalate
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and the bodies seemed
to start piling up.
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Some were found with--
missing a shoe.
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Some had no shoes.
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And they were trying to say
that that was the trophy
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that this killer was--
was keeping, was a shoe.
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So we were working every
angle, trying to find out
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if, in fact, you know,
we can prove that that was,
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like, a trophy item
the person's taking.
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The task force
was put together
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when they realized that
we have these dead people
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that all have
a common denominator in that
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they have been tied up.
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So from 1998 to 2005,
we had the nine here
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in Metro New Orleans
and then the ones coming up
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in the Lafourche
and Terrebonne.
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So we probably had
somewhere around 19.
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And it was full, you know,
8 1/2x11 printouts
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of a mug shot
of a person's head.
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And every time we would--
would find one,
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another victim would go on.
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That was the frustrating part
that was kind of early on.
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Just the number of victims
is the hardest thing.
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One of his dumping sites
in Lafourche Parish
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was on the bank
of a drainage ditch
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right next to the Lafourche
Parish Sheriff's Office.
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Guess the psychology of it is,
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the person was either trying
to rub our face into it
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where he can actually kill
someone, discard them in a--
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a place to be found,
knowing that
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he's gonna get away with it.
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Or was the person
comfortable enough
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that he might be a law
enforcement officer,
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that that would cause
no red flags,
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him being in and around
some kind of police complex?
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You know, we working,
you know, day and night
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trying to develop a suspect,
only, you know,
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to wake up the next morning to,
we have another victim.
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It might be
a sugarcane field.
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It might be under an overpass.
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It might be in a ditch.
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No defensive wounds or no--
no evidence of a big struggle.
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Because some
of these people were
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decent sized, you know, men.
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Even though they were--
they were young at age,
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they were, you know, pretty
much tall and big in stature,
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some of them.
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They weren't always
found right away because it
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was really remote places.
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In South Louisiana
in the summertime,
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in the heat
and the daily rains,
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it would degrade a body.
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It would degrade
a dump site pretty quickly.
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So there wasn't
always DNA to find.
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We had the attorney
general's office,
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the Louisiana State Police
Crime Lab,
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probation and parole
working it.
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You know, it was overwhelming
at the time.
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You know, we would
get working, you know, leads
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and people call in,
giving us some kind of tip.
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Somebody gave a tip of,
you know, white guys,
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you know, Black guys
of different ages.
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Investigators were
making some progress
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in trying to figure out what
happened to these people.
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But at that point,
Hurricane Katrina hit.
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And everything just
kind of went crazy.
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With Katrina's worst on its
way, the last wave of people
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fled New Orleans overnight,
thousands of them
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looking for any place safe.
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There was still a lot of
chaos, I guess, going around.
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A lot of those people from
New Orleans evacuated to Houma.
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We had, in just a few days,
what officials compared
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to ten years' worth of growth
in Houma.
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Our infrastructure
wasn't up to it.
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We just had this inundation of
people coming from all over.
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They're hoping, of course,
not to watch their homes
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or their neighborhoods
blow away.
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We are on the outer edge
of this storm,
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and you can see what
we're dealing with here.
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We kind of had to
slow down a little bit
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because duties, you know,
was spread all over the place
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at that time.
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We weren't really impacted
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in the way of storms
by Katrina.
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But just a few weeks later,
Rita come through.
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And it did--it did have
a lot of damage locally.
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And so the communities were
trying to recover from that.
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How many bodies went
unreported, went undiscovered?
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How many more are
buried somewhere,
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discarded, perhaps, in a more
organized way in the bayou?
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We know that Katrina
was so destructive
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that there were bodies
lying around the bayou.
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It wouldn't have been uncommon
to come across a body
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that was exposed
to the elements.
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In the task force meetings,
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we knew the perp
wasn't 100% successful
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in one contact, one kill.
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Whoever's doing this
is not 100% successful.
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Every contact with a person
is gonna end up with a victim.
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That's where the probation
and parole aspect came in.
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So we had the probation
and parole agents,
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when they met with people
they were supervising,
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they would ask, is anything
out of the ordinary happening
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in and around this area?
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I think one of
the turning points
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was when one of the victims
got away.
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Ricky Wallace was
one of those victims.
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He told a story
about a white guy
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in a pickup truck that
approached him
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while he was walking
down the street.
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Said he had a family member
that was a victim of abuse.
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Showed a picture of, you know,
some--we later learned that
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it was a family member
of the perpetrator
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he was using and lured him in
where she'll pay you for sex.
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She's a domestic
violence victim.
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She's afraid of men.
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Actually got into the pickup
truck with the perpetrator,
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actually let him bring him
to a trailer.
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And once he got
into the trailer,
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he said, well,
before the girl comes in,
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being that she's afraid of men,
I have to tie you up.
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And he said, there's
no way I'm gonna do that.
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At that point,
Ricky was like,
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I'm out of here, no, and ran.
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And he got away.
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Well, he was on parole.
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So the next time he saw
his parole officer, he says,
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look, the weirdest thing
just happened to me.
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So we drove by, got a bunch
of license plate numbers
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and ran some records,
everything from that address,
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and came up with all
the residents there.
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That led police eventually
to Ronald Dominique.
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Ronald Dominique lived
on his sister's property
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in a trailer in the front yard.
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We started
some surveillance on him,
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and it didn't amount to--
to anything.
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He worked at a oilfield
supply company
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doing some kind of
just manual labor,
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and other than that,
didn't really have a life.
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He didn't leave the house,
didn't go to no bars,
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didn't frequent anywhere.
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He would just sit at home.
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So we still didn't
have anything
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to tie him in to these bodies.
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Found out basically
that he was a loner.
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And going back, we found out
that, you know, in high school,
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didn't really
have any friends.
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He had a couple of jobs.
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One was as a meter reader.
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What did he do positive
in the community?
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Well, he called bingo,
might have
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helped some neighbors with
groceries and mow their lawn.
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We knew he was
arrested previously,
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accused of raping a male.
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So he was high on our radar
with just that
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but didn't have anything
to connect him,
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you know, with the crimes
in itself.
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And then we realized that
the sister previously
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lived right here
in St. Charles Parish,
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within a few hundred feet
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of the St. Charles Parish
homicides.
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You know, the three bodies,
you know,
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where they were dumped
in St. Charles Parish.
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So all the homicides
moved at the same time
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this family moved,
and Dominique followed them
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to live on his
sister's property
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outside of the city of Houma.
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When he realized that
the police were following him
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and that his arrest
was probably imminent,
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he left his sister's property,
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and he moved
into the Bunkhouse,
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which is a homeless shelter
there in downtown Houma.
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We had the FBI there.
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Their surveillance team
actually
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was--was assigned to it.
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So 24 hours a day,
we had someone,
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you know, watching him
in his residence.
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And it is--
yes, it's binoculars.
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It's--you know, it may
be cars on the ground,
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people walking, even aircraft
in the air if he was mobile.
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At that point, when we
identified the killer,
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there was not gonna be
any other victims.
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So we just sent two people
to--to make contact with him.
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You know,
one female investigator
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from Lafourche Parish
and one from--
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a male from Jefferson Parish.
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And they interviewed him.
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It was very civil.
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It was almost like
he expected it
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and he was waiting for them.
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And he answered questions.
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Wouldn't admit to anything
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but did consent
to a buccal swab,
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which is a swab of his saliva.
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They took
that DNA sample from him
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and found that it matched DNA
that was found
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on Oliver LeBanks
and Manuel Reed.
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That's when they had enough
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to charge him
with those two murders.
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Good evening, everyone.
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I'm Katie Moore, and welcome to
the WWL Louisiana news at 5:00.
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It was a Friday,
and I remember
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going into the newsroom
and them saying,
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00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:01,240
okay, this arrest
has been made.
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00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,760
So we went down to
the homeless shelter
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to try and talk to people,
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00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,040
and they said that
they were stunned
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00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,520
because he was very quiet,
very nice.
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00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,920
They said, you know, he could
have lived there for 20 years
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00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,200
and nobody would have thought
he did anything wrong.
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He was that unassuming.
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At the Bunkhouse in Houma,
a handful of homeless men
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spent three days with
42-year-old Ronald Dominique.
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Until Wednesday, Dominique
lived in these trailers
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that crime scene investigators
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00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200
combed through
looking for evidence.
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They were parked
behind his sister's
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house on Bayou Blue Road.
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Law enforcement agencies,
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00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,080
including the
Terrebonne Parish Sheriff,
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00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,600
aren't releasing
many details about the case,
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but we do expect
to learn more next week,
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including how they linked
Dominique to the murders.
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Everyone kind of knows
everybody down there.
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And so I think when
this case popped up,
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00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760
everyone was shocked because
a lot of people knew him
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and a lot of people
knew his family.
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And I don't think
anyone ever would have expected
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that he could be responsible
for something so heinous.
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A multi-agency task force
announced the arrest
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of 42-year-old
Ronald Dominique last night
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in connection with two murders
in the late '90s in Kenner.
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Investigators also believe he is the suspect
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in almost 20 other murders
over the past 11 years.
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Two of the victims lived
in Jefferson Parish.
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Two more are from
Lafourche Parish.
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Four resided
in St. Charles Parish.
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And 11 of the victims
lived in Terrebonne Parish.
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00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,880
The law enforcement
task force
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would only say that
forensic evidence
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00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,240
links Dominique
to the two murders
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that he's currently
charged with.
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Both of the Kenner victims
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and about half of the others
were found strangled,
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partially dressed,
and missing shoes.
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The local people down
in Terrebonne Parish
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00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840
put out a word
to the public defender board
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00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,880
that they needed
a lawyer to come down
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and represent him
because he was
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charged with a capital case.
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And that's what we did.
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Of course, one of
the first things we did
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was go and talk to Dominique.
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At that time,
I had handled dozens
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and dozens of capital cases
but never a serial killer.
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I went in there to see him,
and out of all my clients,
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he was probably
the least intrusive.
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00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,040
I mean, he was--he was
short and fat or obese.
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00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,560
He was quiet.
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He walked with a limp and
with cane and really reserved.
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His demeanor was rather
a passive demeanor.
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00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,600
You know, there wasn't
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anything threatening
about him.
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If you look at a lot
of serial killers
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through the years,
they don't stand out.
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They fit in well.
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00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,880
This guy fit in well
at what he did.
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I mean, he didn't do anything.
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He didn't do anything
to call attention to himself.
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He never got
in many arguments,
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00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,720
you know, with the sister,
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with anybody else
in the community.
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He kind of just stayed alone.
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00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480
Let's put it this way,
he wasn't scary,
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00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800
wouldn't scare anyone,
and kind of taken aback
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00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,120
by how someone that
looked like he did
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00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240
would be capable of committing
all these offenses
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that he was accused of.
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00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600
He had a bad heart,
fat and flabby.
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00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800
There was nothing
physically about him
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00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,600
that would make you think
that this person was
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capable of killing anyone
at all, with his hands.
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00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,360
He looked like just some
little guy that really
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00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,360
had nothing going for him.
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And then as we started
to hear more and more details
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00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,320
out of that
serial killer task force,
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00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,800
we started to realize
that this was
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much bigger than just two men.
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00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,120
When they had Ronald
Dominique in interrogation,
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00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,000
then it was like
the floodgates opened.
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He told police that
he had killed Oliver LeBanks.
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They went
to a remote area, had sex,
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00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:17,600
but the victim was apparently
pretty rough on Ronald,
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00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,120
and Ronald struck him
in the head with a tire iron.
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00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Once he knocked him out,
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00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520
realized that he doesn't have
to deal with this pressure
498
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,200
or problem anymore.
499
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,520
And then he strangled him.
500
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,080
And then we learned that
apparently, Ronald Dominique
501
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,440
had confessed when
he went in to police
502
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,400
and just frankly told them
503
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,360
that, you know, he had killed
504
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,280
up to 23 people.
505
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,120
And I just--my mind was blown.
506
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,680
Most people who had come in
contact with Ronald Dominique
507
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,240
were shocked to find out
that he was accused
508
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:59,240
of killing more than 20 people.
509
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,280
I mean, they were stunned.
510
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,640
This man that people
now were hearing
511
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,040
may have been one
of Louisiana's
512
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,880
most prolific serial killers.
513
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,080
So police say that Ronald
Dominique gave them details
514
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,200
about how he committed them.
515
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960
And what Dominique told police
was that he went out
516
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760
late at night,
prowling in search of men
517
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,320
who appeared to be
in need of money.
518
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480
He would pick people up
on Bourbon Street
519
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,480
near the gay bar.
520
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,200
He would see them riding
their bicycle down the road.
521
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,520
He seemed to like Black men,
slight Black men--
522
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,040
not big, brawny guys,
but lean, thin.
523
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,920
Of his 23 victims,
18 of them were Black.
524
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,240
He would cruise, go to areas
where street people,
525
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:56,760
hustlers would frequent,
stop, talk to them,
526
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,840
make a determination.
527
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840
If they said yes,
he'd say, come on, get in.
528
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,360
He would drive them
to his trailer,
529
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,800
and he would say, well, look,
I don't want you to hurt me.
530
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,280
So in order to not be hurt,
I want to tie you up
531
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,720
before we have sex.
532
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,520
If he thought they were gay,
533
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
he would proposition them
for sex with himself.
534
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,880
If he thought they
were heterosexual,
535
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
he had a picture
of an attractive woman,
536
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,600
who he'd say was
his girlfriend or his wife,
537
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,880
and he'd offered them money
to come back
538
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,440
and have sex with this woman.
539
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000
And he would use
his niece's picture
540
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,920
because she was
an attractive young lady
541
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,560
to entice men to come
to his place.
542
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,160
That was the photograph
he used to say, look, my wife
543
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,720
wants to have sex with you.
544
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Here's what she looks like.
545
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520
If they agreed
to be tied up,
546
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,480
he'd rape them
and strangle them.
547
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,320
You have to have
a certain personality
548
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,800
to be able to strike up
a conversation with someone,
549
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,760
make them feel
comfortable enough to where
550
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360
they're willing to go
to another location with you
551
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,760
and spend time with you.
552
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,520
And in this case,
a lot of times
553
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400
he was convincing them to go
to an offsite location for sex.
554
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,640
The early victims, he would
meet in an automobile.
555
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,160
The crime was committed
in an automobile.
556
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280
He would strangle him
with the seat belt.
557
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640
In Southern Louisiana,
a shocking confession
558
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
from an alleged serial killer.
559
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Ronald Dominique was charged
with 11 counts of murder.
560
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Police say
he admitted to killing
561
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200
23 men over eight years.
562
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600
The victims, which ranged
in age from 16 to 46,
563
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280
had all been strangled
or suffocated.
564
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600
When we go investigate people,
we do.
565
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320
We go back and try to find out
people that knew him
566
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,120
when he was growing up,
teachers, people he worked for,
567
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,480
whoever he may have
come in contact with.
568
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000
He grew up
in Lafourche Parish.
569
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480
He went
to Thibodaux High School.
570
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520
He was not a popular guy.
571
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,720
My understanding
is that he didn't--
572
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,760
he didn't come to terms
with his homosexuality
573
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,120
until late in his teens.
574
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280
I'm told that he was bullied.
575
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,680
So high school
was rough for him.
576
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,680
And we found with Dominique,
really didn't have
577
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000
any long-lasting friends,
578
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,400
teachers that really
took to him.
579
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,440
Lower income, lived in
a trailer in Bayou Blue.
580
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Just regular,
everyday, working folk.
581
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,480
I don't think Ronald
Dominique is a high IQ person.
582
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,280
I really don't.
583
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,640
I think he's a simple person
that had a simple plan.
584
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
How he came up with
the actual killing of someone,
585
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,960
I don't think it was
the killing was the motive.
586
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240
I think it was a sex act
that was his motive.
587
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,080
He always lived with either
his mom or his older sister.
588
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Just didn't fit
my preconceived idea
589
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,560
of what a serial killer
would be like.
590
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,840
I mean, he was the most
unthreatening individual,
591
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,480
like, I could think of.
592
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,840
There's two forms of pleasure
593
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,080
involved in these homicides,
594
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,440
perverse pleasures.
595
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
One is, of course,
the sexual part.
596
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,720
The other part was the--
the homicide part.
597
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480
He felt the only way
he could become intimate
598
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000
with someone else
was by tying them up
599
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,960
and then forcing himself
on them, right?
600
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,120
Again, power. Again, control.
601
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680
But such low self-esteem
602
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880
to think that the only way
he could be close to someone
603
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600
was through this mechanism.
604
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,400
He just kept talking
and talking and talking.
605
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,360
And he admitted,
and he provided
606
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,120
details of all these murders.
607
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
I thought it was
really weird, though,
608
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,560
because our reporters
had put together
609
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
from different sources,
and they had gotten,
610
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
like, a list of men that
had gone missing
611
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440
and then turned up dead,
and we'd put together,
612
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,640
before he was arrested,
the list of possible
613
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,200
serial killer victims.
614
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,240
And we didn't have
all 23, of course,
615
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,800
because we didn't take
into account the ones,
616
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,600
like, in the Kenner area.
617
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
We were more looking
at our jurisdiction.
618
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,920
And he admitted
to every one on our list,
619
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,560
but he didn't admit to any
that weren't on our list.
620
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
And I just find it
highly suspect
621
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,160
that we got them all right.
622
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,440
I always wondered if
maybe there were more
623
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,960
or if he just decided
to confess to everything.
624
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,600
I don't know.
625
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400
I've always wondered
if there were others.
626
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,440
One of the things
that surprised me was the fact
627
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,360
that he was able to not only
strangle these people,
628
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,040
with the strength that took,
but also to pick up
629
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,400
the bodies,
put them in his vehicle,
630
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,640
and then take them someplace
and dispose of them.
631
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,720
I was trying to figure out
how he could do that because
632
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360
he didn't strike me as being
that strong of an individual,
633
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,360
even though the victims
weren't that big,
634
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,120
they probably weighed 145
pounds, somewhere around there.
635
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,040
He didn't look like someone
that you would consider
636
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680
a serial killer or someone
capable of killing
637
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,080
23, you know, grown men.
638
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,160
In everyday life,
Ronald Dominique was powerless.
639
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,160
But when he was hunting and
killing, he was very powerful.
640
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,600
It dawned upon me
that he probably had
641
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:42,200
a big adrenaline rush
when he was doing this.
642
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,200
And that may have had
some play in why he did it
643
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,600
and why he was able to--
to move bodies around
644
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,040
and that sort of thing.
645
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,280
Six weeks before
he was arrested,
646
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,520
he killed Sutterfield,
according to the police.
647
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,960
He was able to subdue, tie up,
and rape a full-grown man,
648
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,840
and then drag his body
to where he dumped it.
649
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Then when he was arrested,
650
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,680
he has a cane
and he can't even walk upright.
651
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,000
He's having to be helped
into the car by two officers.
652
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,480
I just always felt
like that was a show.
653
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,760
I just couldn't see
how physically,
654
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,400
how he could have declined
so much.
655
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,040
They said he had
a heart attack,
656
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480
but I still felt like
a lot of that was for show.
657
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,400
He didn't amount to
much of anything other than
658
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,800
he worked in, you know,
some kind of labor intensive,
659
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,000
menial job
working in a supply business.
660
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080
He felt that he was inferior.
661
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,320
Couldn't get a girlfriend
or boyfriend.
662
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,200
He was kind of, you know,
little overweight.
663
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,440
Just really aimless life,
no friends, no one
664
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,280
to be in love with
or to love him.
665
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Even when he came out
of the closet
666
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,960
and was part of the gay scene,
667
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,160
he really wasn't accepted
there, either.
668
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,720
Favorite thing was being
a female impersonator.
669
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480
He liked to dress up like
Patti LaBelle and imitate her,
670
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,440
but he wasn't very good at it.
671
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,040
This female impersonation,
this act,
672
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160
where he was inviting
others to laugh at him,
673
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,000
he's in control of that.
674
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,360
Now, whether this predated
his--his sensibilities
675
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
when later on went on
to kill, we don't know,
676
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
but this is a marker.
677
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Control is a marker.
678
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,480
And we know that
with the serial rapes,
679
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,840
rape has nothing to do
with love or affection
680
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,240
or intimacy or sex.
681
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,160
It's a control issue.
682
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,720
And yeah, the trappings of it
were there in the act.
683
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
So in the early to mid-'90s,
Ronald Dominique had actually
684
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,400
been arrested for rapes.
685
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,120
The story goes that
it was at his sister's house
686
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,440
and that the victim
jumped out the window
687
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,520
and ran away yelling but that
they never followed through
688
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,840
with the case
because they could
689
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,480
never locate the victim again.
690
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,720
So nothing ever came of that.
691
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,440
The second time he was
arrested for a rape,
692
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,440
which was in 1996,
he was convicted
693
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,000
and ended up serving time
in prison.
694
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,320
And while he was in jail,
he was brutalized.
695
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Police believe that that may
have been Ronald Dominique's
696
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,320
trigger, that once he had
to do the time in jail,
697
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,280
he decided he wasn't gonna
spend time in jail anymore.
698
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,880
So he would kill his victims
so that they couldn't
699
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,120
tell police what he had done.
700
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,920
Something happened
to him that,
701
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400
whether or not
it was a sexual fantasy
702
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,840
or it was something else
that got him to come up
703
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,880
with this plan and scheme
that if he wanted to have sex
704
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680
with a male, I guess
he was intimidated
705
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,240
and couldn't do it on his own.
706
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,920
He had to kill him first.
707
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160
It escalated
to where he really enjoyed
708
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,480
the entire process,
from the rape to the murder.
709
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,440
It just got to where the
interval in between murders
710
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,120
became smaller and smaller,
like he needed it more often.
711
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,320
I don't think that we knew
until the following week
712
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,880
that the number of victims
would climb that high.
713
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,600
You know, when we went
to the news conference
714
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,440
that was law enforcement
agencies
715
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,200
talking about how deep and
wide their investigation went,
716
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,520
I think all of us
were stunned.
717
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,800
And then to hear that
law enforcement
718
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,520
hadn't even connected
all 23 of those killings.
719
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Ronald Dominique did.
720
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880
When you hear that
it's over 20 people
721
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,960
that this man is accused of
killing over that many years,
722
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,760
it's stunning that
they weren't able
723
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920
to catch up with him sooner,
724
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,880
especially given
the similarities in the cases.
725
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
But nobody knows
about Ronald Dominique
726
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,600
because he killed people
who were marginalized.
727
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:50,400
He killed people who lived
a high-risk lifestyle
728
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,400
and didn't necessarily
garner a lot of sympathy
729
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,560
from people outside
their family.
730
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Each of them had
a family that loved them
731
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,920
and cared about them.
732
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,080
These were people
that were hurting.
733
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,640
I mean, their loved ones,
in spite of the fact
734
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,040
that their loved ones
might have been
735
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,320
homeless and street hustlers
or whatever,
736
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,880
they still loved them.
737
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,240
And they were angry
at what happened.
738
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000
They had
22 unsolved murders.
739
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,760
You know, I mean,
I don't know how--
740
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,800
how the guy did that for
so long to get away with that.
741
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,040
I would want him dead.
742
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:25,160
I would want him dead.
743
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,160
I mean, serving time
in penitentiary, that--
744
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,840
that don't help.
745
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,360
I mean, he took a--
he took my child's life.
746
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,400
We discussed the ins
and outs of the case
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and came to the realization
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that trying
eight capital cases
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in that parish alone
would be burdensome,
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not only on
the parish's finances,
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but also on the families
of the victims.
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It would be decades
before this would be over.
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The families would have
to go through the trial
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over and over.
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00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,480
They would have to hear
all these horrendous details
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of what happened
to their loved ones.
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And they were not about
hearing those gory details.
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In the end,
Ronald Dominique was
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offered a plea deal
by prosecutors,
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and he ended up taking it.
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He pleaded guilty
to avoid the death penalty.
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The prosecutor said
at the time that he felt like,
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and some of the families felt
like, that it would be more
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of a punishment
for Dominique to be jailed
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for the rest of his life than
it would be for him
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to get the death penalty
because he hated jail so much
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00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,480
that they saw this as
a bigger punishment for him
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than taking his life.
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I mean, eight consecutive
life sentences, that's--
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yeah, that's one
after the other.
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That's what you give a cat.
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00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120
There's no need
to waste the resources,
773
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,160
you know, to prosecute him
anywhere else.
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00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,600
You know, we just have
open warrants for him
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if he ever does,
you know, try to get out.
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00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480
Each one of these victims
had a life to live.
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And that got cut short
because of Ronald Dominique.
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They had the unlucky fortune
or misfortune of, you know,
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coming into his crosshairs.
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I think the most
important thing that needs
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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200
to come out of it is,
how did this person
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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,200
fall through the cracks?
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00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,040
What did we miss
in order to stop this person
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from taking so many lives?
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In this case,
it's just horribly sad.
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I mean, he was
preying on people
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that were some of our society's
most vulnerable.
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Even though Ronald Dominique
is one of the most prolific
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serial killers
in Louisiana history,
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many people have never
even heard of him.
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00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,520
This is the serial killer
you've never heard of.
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00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,920
He was prolific.
793
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,600
He got away with it
for ten years.
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00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,400
Nobody knows who he is.
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These were
somebody's children.
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00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,800
And they were raped
and dumped in mini storages
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00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,840
and sugarcane fields
and under overpasses.
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00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,640
They deserved better.
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